Funding Fight

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five – "Funding Fight"

Date: October 3, 2025
Hosts: Kayleigh McEnany, Kennedy, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld

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Overview

In this episode of The Five, the panel dives into the ongoing government shutdown, with fiery debates over Democratic and Republican strategies regarding illegal immigration, healthcare funding, and political messaging. The show also covers the unrest in Portland involving Antifa protests against ICE, Hollywood's reawakened interest in free speech advocacy, and lighter topics such as Taylor Swift’s new album and humorous banter among the hosts.

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Main Theme

The episode explores the deep partisan divide over the government shutdown, focusing on the clash between healthcare funding for illegal immigrants and broader dissatisfaction with party leadership, media messaging, and grassroots reactions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown & Healthcare for Illegal Immigrants

• [00:34] Kayleigh McEnany introduces the shutdown, blaming Democrats for prioritizing illegal immigrants' healthcare over reopening the government.

  “The Democratic Party seems willing to let it all just burn to the ground. All for letting illegal immigrants get taxpayer funded health care. Once again voting down a clean resolution…” (00:34)

• [01:10] Jessica Tarlov highlights the healthcare strain in cities with high illegal immigrant populations.

  “In 2023…Southern California's entire health care system was being bombarded with illegal immigrants and forcing American patients to endure longer wait times…” (01:10)

• Mockery of Democratic messaging: The group derides the Democrats’ “shutdown livestream,” emphasizing technical blunders and lackluster viewership as symbolic of ineffective communication (around [01:37]).
• [02:56] Greg Gutfeld satirizes the apocalyptic framing of the shutdown by some on the left.

  "We are living in an unprecedentedly dangerous moment, maybe the worst crisis in America literally since the Civil War." (02:56)

Notable Quote

• Jesse Watters:

  "You can have the best lighting, you can have the best wardrobe, you can have the best writers. And if they put that spotlight on you and you have no talent, you have no show." (03:45)

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2. Partisan Blame & Poll Wars

• [05:45] Kayleigh challenges the Democratic position:

  “Jessica, why does your party want to shut down the government for taxpayer funded health care for illegal immigrants?” (05:45)

• [05:51] Kennedy counters, claiming Republicans are misrepresenting the bill, and provides detailed poll data where the public—across party lines—supports healthcare subsidies (especially referencing studies by Kaiser Family Foundation, Washington Post, etc.; [06:50]).

  "The Kaiser Family Foundation 78% say yes, including a majority of Republicans. ... Republicans know that they are being blamed for it, and rightly so." (06:50)

• [08:22] Greg Gutfeld explains the trap Democrats are in:

  "If they agree ...that you're funding illegals, they're screwed. And if they say they aren't, then they explain it...when they talk about the asylum process, we know that it's a corrupt process." (08:22)

• The conversation devolves into contrasting critiques of both parties' handling of government and social services—highlighting big government vs. essential services (Greg [09:00-11:37]).

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3. Portland Unrest – Antifa, ICE, and Law Enforcement

• [14:21] Jessica Tarlov and [14:32] Jesse Watters detail the unrest and violence around Portland’s ICE facility, referencing conservative journalist Nick Sorter's assault and arrest.
  • Jesse Watters:

    "Radical agitators once again laying siege to the ICE facility last night...There was your usual Woodstock era hippie burning the American flag...violent fist fight..." (14:32)

  • Greg Gutfeld, quoting Sorter:

    "All of a sudden I'm being jumped by antifa thugs. I get back up ... the videos now show me just standing next to the police. Never suspected that I was going to be the target..." (15:18)

• Kennedy and Jessica Tarlov discuss the complexity of local policing, alleged collusion with Antifa, and cases of possible overreach (including a lawsuit by an American mistakenly rounded up in an ICE raid, [18:02]–[19:59]).
  • Kennedy:

    "...the American public should not stand for that...And I don't think you would be comfortable if you saw tanks rolling down 6th Avenue." (18:02)

• Kayleigh pushes the narrative of ICE under relentless attack, recalling violence against law enforcement, and Democrats allegedly demonizing federal officers ([20:03]–[21:14]).
  • Kayleigh McEnany:

    "ICE officers are under attack across the country...When I was there in 2020, the same antifa crowd...throwing pigs feet and feces at law enforcement officers..." (20:03)

• Greg Gutfeld rails against "both sides" arguments, asserting the left enables lawlessness while the right, he claims, never excuses its own side's violence ([21:15]–[24:02]).

Notable Quote

• Greg Gutfeld:

  "The interesting thing...the right doesn't excuse their side of violence...when somebody on our side does something, we're gonna put them away for life. ... But you guys, you guys cannot." (21:15)

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4. Hollywood and Free Speech – The New (Old) First Amendment Warriors

• [25:25] Jessica Tarlov introduces the segment: Jane Fonda and Hollywood celebrities rekindle the Committee for the First Amendment, positioning themselves as free speech defenders in the Trump era.
  • Jessica Tarlov:

    "Big stars like Billie Eilish, Pedro Pascal and Ben Stiller are teaming up with none other than Jane Fonda. Together they've dusted off this old post-World War II group..." (25:25)

• Jesse Watters and Greg Gutfeld mock Hollywood for recycling old faces instead of choosing younger, more relevant spokespeople.
  • Jesse Watters:

    "You'd think they'd get a new woman who's in her 20s and 30s who had like really great political spirit..." (26:51)

  • Greg Gutfeld:

    "We are in a breakout mode. We aren't scared of people like Jane Fonda and her plastic face. ... They've called us racist for years...But once, once Kirk was murdered, it changed us. We aren't angry. We're actually free..." (29:31)

• Kennedy highlights perceived double standards, arguing the current administration is hostile to free speech, citing recent court cases involving foreign students and firing prosecutors for old opinions ([28:19]–[29:12]).

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5. Taylor Swift’s New Album & Pop Culture Break

• [32:10] Kennedy reviews the new Taylor Swift album Life of a Showgirl, calling it “incredibly boring and basic.”
  • Jessica Tarlov:

    “It’s like Ikea AI. It’s contrite, it’s bouncy slop. It is very boring.” (32:28)

• Greg Gutfeld revises his previous harsh judgments, jokingly commending Swift as a "beacon of hope for all sixes and sevens out there" ([33:09]).
• Kayleigh McEnany shares that FOX contributor Griff Jenkins sees traditional values in the album, but admits some lyrics are a bit much for her sensibilities ([33:55]).
• Much playful banter follows, ending with Jesse’s provocative curiosity about the album's more risqué lyrics.

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6. Host Q&A & Lighter Moments

• [34:55] Host Q&A: On nerves before shows, useless knowledge, and quirky facts.
  • Kayleigh: “Qatar is pronounced ‘Cutter,’ not ‘Qatar’—I love correcting people.”
  • Jessica: “John Bolton’s mustache smells like strawberries.”
  • Greg: "Every M&M you eat, you have to walk one city block to burn it off."
• [38:23] to end: Each host shares a “one more thing”:
  • Jesse promotes the Fox Nation Patriot Awards.
  • Greg features a polar bear video, ribbing Brian Kilmeade.
  • Kennedy highlights a sewing club making dresses for charity.
  • Kayleigh teases upcoming guest Nick Sorter after his Antifa-related arrest.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Greg Gutfeld (on Dem livestream):

  “Do you know what has more views than their livestream? Rosie O'Donnell's colonoscopy. And it wasn't even recorded.” (08:22)

• Kayleigh McEnany (mocking Dem leadership):

  “Listless, aimless, feckless. Jesse, who's your favorite messenger of the bunch?” (03:29)

• Jessica Tarlov (on Nick Sorter incident):

  “Essentially they have the same political philosophy and that is the virus that has infected this once great metropolis since before the pandemic. And it has gotten just absolutely awful.” (15:55)

• The recurring “Animals are Great” segment with Greg Gutfeld and the polar bear video, adding levity near the episode’s end ([39:25]).

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Key Timestamps

• 00:34 – Introduction and shutdown setup
• 01:10 – Healthcare system impact discussion
• 02:56 – Dems’ “apocalypse” messaging mocked
• 03:45 – Jesse’s “politics is television” analogy
• 05:45 – Debate on Dems' motives for shutdown
• 08:22 – The "Democratic messaging trap" and livestream mockery
• 14:21 – Portland Antifa/ICE discussion begins
• 18:02 – Lawsuits and overreach in ICE operations
• 20:03 – Violence against ICE and Dem demonization of law enforcement
• 21:15 – “Both sides” law and order critique
• 25:25 – Jane Fonda and Hollywood’s revival of free speech activism
• 32:10 – Taylor Swift album review
• 34:55 – Host Q&A, nerves, and quirky facts
• 38:23 – One More Thing/closing rapid fire

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Tone & Language

• The episode is highly combative, satirical, and playful, with sharp one-liners and open mockery of political enemies.
• Regular switches between earnest policy debate, sarcasm, and inside jokes.
• Cross-ideological banter permits moments of grudging agreement, occasional self-deprecation, and recurring pop culture riffs.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Five reflects the show’s mix of pointed, polarizing debate with humor and pop culture. The hosts dissect the shutdown standoff, Democratic and Republican strategy on messaging, border policy, and media tactics, with diversions into culture-war flashpoints like Antifa protests and Hollywood activism. Light-hearted exchanges and quirky fun balance the heavy political content, making for a typical, lively Five roundtable.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Kayleigh McEnany]

Hello everyone. I'm Kayleigh McEnany along with Kennedy, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Well, it's Friday and it's also day three of the government shutdown and the Democratic Party seems willing to let it all just burned to the ground. All for letting illegal immigrants get taxpayer funded health care. Once again voting down a clean resolution to get the government back up and running. And today, White House press secretary Caroline Levitt bringing receipts to the briefing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

In 2023, under the Biden administration, Southern California's quote, entire health care system was being bombarded with illegal immigrants and forcing American patients to endure longer wait times. In Denver, Colorado, the CEO of Denver Health stated that 8,000 illegal immigrants made 20,000 visits to the city's health system in 2023, leaving an uncompensated bill totaling over 10 million.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

And be careful what you shut down for because this fight is shining a big ugly spotlight on just how bad the Democrats messaging really is, as well as how frustrated the rank and file are with the leadership of Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. Case in point, their big shutdown livestream YouTube marathon is getting mocked across the board after it managed to pull in barely. Listen to this. 400 viewers.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Good afternoon everybody.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, Don, we can't hear you. Jen Z is in the house.

[Jesse Waters]

Maxwell, it'd be great to.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's right. You know, the other thing that I.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Hear is from the provider.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He just texted me. Oh, I think we're on.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But are you really, really ready to fight for health care over billionaires?

[Kennedy]

Oh, come on.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I can't hear you. Are you ready to fight for health care over billionaires? That's more like it.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Sure change hearts and minds there. When all else fails, the scare tactics always come out. Democrats are going full apocalypse mode over the shutdown.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We are living in an unprecedentedly dangerous moment, maybe the worst crisis in America literally since the Civil War.

[Jessica Tarlov]

There are going to be people who are going to die because of these decisions. And that more than anything else the Republicans don't want to talk about.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We're not going to sit there and simply rubber stamp Donald Trump's extreme agenda and the harm that they continue to do on the American people. It's a continuation of an all out assault on the health care and the well being of the American people. That's right.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Listless, aimless, feckless. Jesse, who's your favorite messenger of the bunch?

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, I like all of them because they're so bad. Politics is a lot like television. And that's why Heg says secretary of defense. And what, Trump's president? War war secretary. Excuse me.

[Jessica Tarlov]

How dare you.

[Jesse Waters]

You know, and everybody around the table knows you can have the best lighting, you can have the best wardrobe, you can have the best writers. And if they put that spotlight on you and you have no talent, you have no show.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I disagree. But anyway, go ahead.

[Jesse Waters]

We have seen, well, you look at CNN maybe, but we have seen people, given them everything and they just fall flat on their face. You'd think the Democrats with big tech, with Hollywood, with all the help they can get, they can't pull it together. And you look at some of the most uninspiring, not very attractive, dumb, wacky people and they're being exposed. It's the Kamala problem. The more you see them and the more you hear from them, the more, the less you like them. And if you can't produce something without audio problems and without dead air, how are we going to put you in charge of health care? The people who you put out there, it's almost like subconsciously, do I want to be with this group of people when I look at them, you know, do you want to be with a guy who has a sombrero on his head and who's complaining that there's a sombrero and who thinks the sombrero is racist? Do you want to be on the side of someone that looks and sounds like Chuck Schumer or on the side of someone that sounds like Crockett? No. And so politics is very stupid that way. It's very simple, but we get it. And it's being exposed right now. And the people that are good at it on their side are the dumb ones like AOC and Bernie. They're telegenic, they're kind of good communicators, but they have the worst ideas. So you have one wing of the party and the other wing of the party and the talent gap is just off the charts. And ideologically they're at war with each other. So you're going to have to wait years for this to end. And right now you're seeing the shutdown. Expose it all.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Jessica, why does your party want to shut down the government for taxpayer funded health care for illegal immigrants?

[Kennedy]

It's just not what's going on. And we know that that's the case because Leader Jeffries, when he was being interviewed, said they know that it's a lie because when I was actually in the Oval Office, it came up for a Sum total of 10 seconds. Mike Johnson and his credit. He does a ton of interviews, but everybody is pushing back on him about that. Showing the actual text which says we're talking about people who are lawfully here. If you want to pull it out, go to the section that actually delineates 57.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah, I'll pass over that. That's the bill.

[Kennedy]

Oh, I've seen it. Yeah, no, I know. And if you go to the part below the one that's being highlighted on all the GOP accounts, you'll see that it's for people who are here lawfully protected status, domestic violence survivors, etc.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's what's being exploited. That's the whole point.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, when you're an asylum seeker, it's the whole point. Get free health care.

[Kennedy]

You do what you want. You want to make fun of us. You want to say no, we just want you to.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I want to acknowledge what you're identifying as legitimate isn't.

[Kennedy]

The thing is you can mock Democratic messengers all that you want, but then that just says something terrible about the Republicans because we are lapping you when it comes to this. Washington Post 17 percentage point advantage for the Republicans as who's to who is responsible? Marist, New York Times, Siena Morning Consult. Should we extend the ACA subsidies? The Kaiser Family Foundation 78% say yes, including a majority of Republicans. Including A majority of MAGA Republicans. Washington Post, 71% yes. The Wall Street Journal reporting today inside the White House, aides are discussing proposals to extend the enhanced subsidies for the Affordable Care act health insurance plans. Officials said Republicans know that they are being blamed for it, and rightly so. They're trying to kick the can down the road. They said, well, we'll deal with it the next time. But you have to make your plan choices in November, not in December when we're going to deal with this again. So go ahead, mock the livestream. Also, check out the GOP account on YouTube. The videos regularly get like four or five hundred views. It's kind of reminding me of 2020, when everyone who would fan out in front of the cameras, would say, Donald Trump won. Joe Biden wasn't really elected. And then they get in a courtroom and their tail is between their legs and they're like, no, no, no, I don't think that. I don't think that that's what happens. You're in the Oval Office, you act like a big boy and you deal with Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schuberman. So you get on TV and you say, it's about illegal.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Jessica, check out it is battle legal.

[Kennedy]

It's not.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Greg. The polls also said. Jessica, I know you love the polls. The polls also said Kamala Harris would be the 47th president. That didn't quite work out.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, first of all, the. This is the kind of like the tough spot the Dems are in. If, if they agree with you and that you're funding illegals, they're screwed. And if they say they aren't, then they explain it with something that they are obliged to drill down further on, which is when they talk about the asylum process, we know that it's a corrupt process. And Kaylee's right, if you look at 7, 1109, you're going to see alien Medicaid eligibility. This is a process that was gamed by illegals. Okay, first of all, the live stream, I look back and I found out, do you know what has more views than their livestream? Rosie O' Donnell's colonoscopy. And it wasn't even recorded. That was 400 real person views. Look, there's no surprise nobody's watching this. And why? It looks bad. And it does look bad. They are humorless, they are boring. But also they don't have any credibility. This party, your party, lied to all of America about Biden's state. So how can you expect anybody to show up for your livestream after gaslighting them about the biggest political risk that was ever taken? That's like expecting people to come to your birthday party after you burned down the neighborhood. Because that's what you did. You burned down the party. So I do think about shutdowns. Why? How is it a shutdown when essential services are maintained? Not unessential. I know that Kennedy agrees with me on this. It does create a question in your head, why is the government involved in the first place in non essential services that we are paying for? By its very definition, the government maintains stuff that you cannot do yourself. So you want to talk about essential stuff? Law enforcement, military operations, air traffic control, Social Security, medical, medical care, VA benefits. These are all not affected by the shutdown. That's why you don't hear anybody complaining. That's why it doesn't make news except on shows like this. So if that is essential, isn't that enough? The Dems have transformed the idea of government, which was an essential service, into an endless well of freebies. Because they don't feel the pain of paying for it. We do. We won't notice when they nickel and dime us to death. So I want to step back from the squabble, get to this essential point. How do we get here? And how do we prevent it from destroying this country? If America before Trump was a boat with a big leak in it, he came and he sealed the boat, but it's still filled with water, so that he's in the process of extracting the water. Millions of illegals in the boat, soaking up benefits, draining resources, burdening citizens. We need to address that right away, because you can't have. Maybe you can have free benefits, but then you have to have a closed border.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Amen.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Right? Or you can have an open border and no free stuff. But how do the Democrats, and they can't explain this. How can a country survive when you have an open border and free stuff? No adult can reasonably answer that and say it can happen. It's a recipe for doom. If you have a free candy store next to a school, it's going to go out of business in a day. The Dems shouldn't be defiant about this. They should be grateful that the adults are back in the room, Jessica, and taking the heat that you're part so cowardly avoided. In your face.

[Kennedy]

God, I've had a total change of heart. Thank you so much.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I can't stop thinking about Rosie's colonoscopy. I'm trying to get that image here.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You want to see some stuff on my phone? Check this out. It looks like the Holland Tunnel.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Break down the line. Well, the federal funding for that has gone away because we can't have nice things. Rosie's colonoscopy and the Holland Tunnel and whatever other euphemism we can apply here because it is all a giant hot turd of overspending. And I'm sorry to say it, but both parties are to blame. And we got here because the more money you get from taxpayers, the more control you have over the government. Government is too big. There are many things that might go away that honestly we won't really miss. But it is a disingenuous argument to say that the medical spending in the state of California is only state spending for illegal aliens because that is one of the states where, you know, Governor Newsom decided that it would be a great idea to just start writing checks to people who were here illegally. That is medical. It was extended to illegal immigrants. So Mark Pocan, who is a representative from Wisconsin, said that's not a federal issue. You know, the federal government isn't funding that. Actually, the federal government does because Medi Cal is funded by Medicaid. The Medicaid is funded half by the federal government and half by the state. Unless you're Talking about the 90% of people who are at the intersection of the ACA, which is a horrible system, which already had high premiums before the pandemic and got a goose so people wouldn't die so they could afford their health care. And now that the pandemic is over, you cannot maintain spending at those levels. And to do so, we was a heartless gambit in the first place. And that was run by Democrats who made this big promise of socialized medicine. But the reality is the more government you have, the more problems you have, especially in overly subsidized sectors like health care.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Fantastic fact check. All right, up next, a conservative journalist getting assaulted and arrested as antifa agitators lay siege to an ICE facility.

[Kennedy]

Force Factor hair growth accelerator.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

President Trump will end the radical left's reign of terror in Portland once and for all. The president has directed Secretary Hagseth to provide all necessary troops to protect war ravaged Portland.

[Jesse Waters]

President Trump's ordered a review of federal funds to Oregon as the antifa carnival of chaos continues in Portland. Radical agitators once again laying siege to the ICE facility last night, a ritual that's now dragged on for nearly 100 straight nights. There was your usual Woodstock era hippie burning the American flag. One guy got cold cocked in the face, a violent fist fight that left a man knocked out. ICE's Portland director says the facility is under constant attack with little help from local police thanks to far left city leaders tying their hands. Three arrests in total, including conservative journalist Nick Sodor who says he was swarmed, shoved into a flower bed and punched, swinging back but missing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All of a sudden I'm being jumped by antifa thugs. I get back Up I stumble away and go back toward cops where I think at least, alright, well, maybe that'll be a safer place for me to go. The videos now show me just standing next to the police. Never suspected that I was going to be the target of the arrests that they were coming in to make. Look, this is going to backfire on them tremendously. It already is.

[Jesse Waters]

AG Pambandi is now investigating Nick Sorter's arrest. Kennedy there, there's thinking that there is collusion between the city of Portland and Antifa. What are you hearing?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I mean, essentially they have the same political philosophy and that is the virus that has infected this once great metropolis since before the pandemic. And it has gotten just absolutely awful. I mean there are parts of the city that are completely boarded where this ICE facility is. It's a pretty quiet part of town. It's removed from downtown, it's on macadam, it's close to John's Landing and the Oregon Health Sciences University. And so the officers that are there, they are just sitting ducks. So these antifa groups, they coordinate with each other and they go down and they overwhelm. But then Portland police, because of the modified rules of engagement, they are not allowed to send in the forces that they used to. They used to be able to send in, you know, essentially a rapid response team and a riot squad and cops on bicycles who can maneuver much quicker and react to things in real time. But we don't want to arrest anybody. So the rules of engagement had been changed so there are fewer officers there. And the ones that are there are not allowed to make the kind of arrests they are. They used to be able to. And so now they have a system in place where they are taken to one facility for a field arrest and then they are taken to a detective for a formal arrest. These Antifa guys wear like 10 different layers of clothes. So if you have a probable cause affidavit and you see a guy in a blue shirt and then all of a sudden he's wearing a pink tank top, you basically have to make him disrobe until you find the layer that was captured in the first place for the probable cause. Because if you don't have probable cause in this city, you don't have an arrest. And even when you do have an arrest, you're not going to get someone charged with anything. And this whole cycle is just going to continue to devolve into a giant.

[Jesse Waters]

Once beautiful toilet 100 days straight. Jessica, you'd think you'd be able to handle that with The Portland Police Department. Why has not that not been handled?

[Kennedy]

Not going to sit here and refute that some of the footage seems like things are out of control. I'm also not going to sit here and pretend that it doesn't seem like in some cases when protesters are getting pepper sprayed in the face, that ICE is going a little bit too far there. And you're going to have to find some sort of solution that deals with who the people are who live in Portland and what their politics are and how they feel about living in a militarized city and making sure that nobody is getting hurt and that the ICE facility can function and hopefully just pick up people who have committed crimes here in the United States versus just regular people who, yes, entered unlawfully decades ago, but are now being hauled away. This argument that, you know, what's going on in Portland is a microcosm of how the country is just completely out of control and that we need tanks rolling down the streets of Chicago and is not flying with the American people. There's a lawsuit now. Alabama, an American citizen who was arrested twice is suing for that as an American citizen. He was part rounded up a construction worker. I guess he was like a little too Latino looking for them. And then there's what happened in Chicago, that there was an ICE raid on a South Shore apartment complex looking for a trend of Aragua members. There was a Blackhawk helicopter involved. American citizens were pulled out of their homes. There are children standing outside. They were zip tying the kids together. The American public should not stand for that. It's not just we will not stand for that. And I don't think you would be comfortable if you saw tanks rolling down 6th Avenue.

[Jesse Waters]

Seen any tanks?

[Kennedy]

Well, go to Chicago outside of the Broadview facility and you will see the tank.

[Jesse Waters]

And I'm not even sure what you're saying is true because a lot of the stuff you say ends up okay, but it's Kaylee.

[Kennedy]

I can only go by the reporting.

[Jesse Waters]

Do you think that the things that she's alleging are happening are actually.

[Kennedy]

You don't think there's a lawsuit?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

No.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Militarizing.

[Jesse Waters]

Anybody can file a lawsuit, Jessica.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Militarizing American cities. No, here's what's happening here, Jessica. There are literally bottle rockets that have been thrown at an ICE facility. There are lasers being pointed in the eyes of ICE officers in Portland. Oh, wait, did we all soon forget the attack on an ICE facility last week where anti ICE was written on the bullet where it was targeted directly at. At hurting and killing ICE Officers? No, the mainstream media came in and said that was about detainees. And then they were fact checked totally and completely wrong. Our ICE officers are under attack across the country. It's not the first time this happened. When I was there in 2020, the same antifa crowd that's in Portland, they were throwing pigs feet and feces at law enforcement officers. And what did Democrats do? Kate Brown said the law enforcement that's there, the federal law enforcement, were secret police. She was the governor at the time. Nancy Pelosi called the federal agent stormtroopers. Jim Clyburn called them the Gestapo. That's what Democrats did. Demonizing federal officers does not work. And I will take the issue of crime and illegal immigration any day. These are winning issues for the Republican Party. And I love that Democrats are taking the bait. Make that your talking point. Tanks rolling down the streets of America. It's not going to work in the midterms. Did not work in 2024.

[Jesse Waters]

Greg Gutfeld.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, Jessica admits and to her credit that there's footage there that shows that it seems like out of control. But then she both sides it. Although some protesters are being peppered spray by ice. And it's like, why? It's because the footage seems to show people out of control. And how do you get them in control when they're being violent? You have to use pepper spray because that's a temporary remedy. You're not going to shoot them. You don't want to hurt them. It's always both sides, though. If antifa is rioting, you have to go. But wait a second. What about ice? The American public voted for this. They don't want this. You're saying, oh, American. But no, they voted for Trump because they need law and order. Because you guys dropped the ball. You abdicated your responsibility, moral and otherwise, to take control of this. It's not both sides. Only one side has expressed a consistent narrative that has turned into violent action. And this is happening every day. You want to talk about who is causing violence? How is this narrative and the violence connected? Well, let's talk about the violence. Let's talk about the narrative demonizing ICE in law enforcement, especially since the Michael Brown lies and the George Floyd riots. Okay, so you redefine chaos and riots and especially intimidation as necessary protest. It shouldn't be protest when the people show up with weapons and armor. But somehow we've allowed that. It's transformed and that is because the Democrats somehow believe it's empathetic to protect those who are coming onto a peaceful turf to intimidate others. And if you stand up for it, you're the problem. And if something happens, you're the problem. Because they're defending some kind of, I don't know, some kind of compassionate aim that we don't understand. The interesting thing, and I'll stop here, the right doesn't excuse their side of violence. When something bad happens, it's genetically coded in us. We are averse to risk. We. We are pro law and order. We are not about. We don't romanticize edginess, sometimes to a fault. You can call us dorky or nerds, but when somebody on our side does something, we're gonna put them away for life. We're pro death. But you guys, you guys cannot. You should have been able to look at that Jessica and say, God, that sucks. These people are awful. They've been doing it for years. It's terrible. Why is it that my side is always linked to hating law enforcement? Why is that? Could it be the narrative that just circles around these actions up to and before and including when it happens? That's how you should. Don't just say, well, it looks like ice is being a little hard on a pepper spray. We only have pepper spray. What else can we do?

[Kennedy]

That was my internal monologue. And I guess you just came out for wanting to rescind all the pardons for the J6ers who've gone out and.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Even raised it for one day in 250 years. And we condemned it.

[Kennedy]

We condemned it to the President, United States. These are my people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What about is. You're missing the point again. What about. I'm talking about a narrative. There was no narrative that caused that. What?

[Kennedy]

I gave you an example.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We've been down this road before and I don't want to leave any more skid marks on you.

[Kennedy]

Talk about your potty stuff.

[Jesse Waters]

All right, Fox News Alert. President Trump just reacting on Truth Social to Hamas agreeing to part of his Gaza peace plan. Trump says that Israel must immediately stop the bombing in Gaza so that the hostages can get out. But up next, Hanoi Jane Fonda is suddenly a free speech warrior.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Meet Will Markham.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I'm Dana Perino. This week on Perino on Politics, I am joined by executive Vice president at Targeted Victory, Matt Gorman.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Listen and follow [e-mail] or wherever you.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Get your favorite podcasts. Hello.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You know who I don't love? I'm about to tell you. Forget world hunger or global warning warming. Here is a warning. Liberal Hollywood has discovered a brand new passion, you guys. Free speech yeah. After being completely stuck silence about Joe Biden's crackdowns on conservative speech, big stars like Billie Eilish, Pedro Pascal and Ben Stiller are teaming up with none other than Jane Fonda. Together they've dusted off this old Post World War II group called the Committee for the First Amendment. The group originally formed during the Red scare, they now want to fight back against the Orange scare, what they claim is the Trump administration's targeting of speech. And of course, Hanoi Jane just can't resist climbing right back on her metaphorical anti aircraft gun. This is a very chilling time. You know, we've faced attempts at autocracy.

[Jesse Waters]

Before in the 20s and 30s, and.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You'Ve cited the example of McCarthyism. There was Jim Crow. This is different. And we should all be very scared. Oh, I thought of this last night. We're going to engage in creative, non violent, non cooperation cnn. We'll take it.

[Kennedy]

I'm good.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I knew you would.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Jesse. She took it from Ted Turner for a while. The founder of cnn.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, man. Yeah. So why isn't Hollywood more creative? You'd think they'd get a new woman who's in her 20s and 30s who had like really great political spirit and make her the face of the free speech movement. And this is nothing against Jane Fonda, but she's 90 years old and her time has passed. I'm not saying, like she's not in her prime anymore, but you have to stay current. This is like you take someone from the 1960s that won a lot of football games and then all of a sudden you rehire them as a coach in the NFL today and he runs the wishbone and he just gets destroyed. You can't do that now. You have to stay current and to then leech off the CNN brand. This is the same thing the Democrats are doing right now, fighting Trump. Trump is now Trump 2.0. He's on a whole nother level. He's much more powerful and he's got experience. And they're running the same playbook they did from 2017. They're doing it in Hollywood. They're doing a 1960s, 1940s throwback till today. They gotta find some new faces.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I think Jane Fonda did find a new face. In fact, you commented during.

[Kennedy]

She looks incredible.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Dave is seven years old.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, but her face is ten.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So, you know, if you're fighting for free speech, shouldn't you fight for all free speech? Even the free speech that you totally disagree with and abhor 100%.

[Kennedy]

But that's why this administration has no legs to stand on. They've been completely anti free speech. They've been ruled down in courts all across the country for doing things like picking up PhD students for writing op eds that they don't like. A Reagan appointed judge, a really squishy guy. Reagan, who was appointing these guys, just ruled that foreign students enjoy the same free speech rates as we do. He wrote the president's palpable misunderstanding that the government simply cannot see seek retribution for speech he disdains poses a great threat to American freedom of speech.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So they're firing Trump arrested somebody.

[Kennedy]

Prosecutors. They are firing prosecutors for post eight years ago while they were in private practice. This just happened in Miami. Cash Patel with his purity test. This administration has no respect for the First Amendment and university campuses. What they're trying to get law firms to do is crazy.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You can get fired over saying stupid stuff. God knows I know.

[Kennedy]

Donald Trump.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I know I've been fired three times. So sorry, I government.

[Kennedy]

Can I go after you? That's what the First Amendment is about. It's not about private enterprise or if Suzanne decides that she doesn't like what you're saying.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Donald Trump wants Greg to talk now. So go ahead.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Here's the deal. Here's the reason why they're mad. It has nothing to do with free. Their free speech. It's the fact that there are threats to our free speech. No longer works. You know, we are in a breakout mode. We aren't scared of people like Jane Fonda and her plastic face. Although it could scare children. They've called us racist for years. They've called us homophobes, bigots, anti trans. They've elevated hate. So we were targeted. But once, once Kirk was murdered, it changed us. We aren't angry. We're actually free. You know, we are so out of Fs that rhyme with trucks. Kelly, you cannot imagine. That's why it's like none of this stuff matters to us. And were these Hollywood douchebags when the Democrats were applying coercion to the media platforms and getting people thrown up? Where were you when they were targeting content on Covid and Russian collusion and Hunter's laptop? Or when you targeted. When you had. When you paid NGOs to create target lists with people on them based on so called violations of misinformation. You didn't do that because you didn't like the people that were being targeted. Bottom line. And I take issue with what you said. Jessica, we don't want to censor you. Every time you talk, you help us whenever we hear Rosie the View, Colbert, Jane Fonda, Mark Ruffalo, Joy Reid, Jim Acosta, Chris Cuomo, Brian Selter, you make us look smarter. I would never, ever shut you people up because every time you talk, we get stronger.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So go ahead. I was gonna ask you about Jimmy Kimmel because he used his free speech during the pandemic to wish people dead.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah, beautiful speech, right? I don't know the F word that rhymes with trucks, which you prefer.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Frux.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Okay, Frux. All I will say is prosecutors, Donald Trump has a right to fire them. He's the chief executive. And foreign students here on visas, that's one judge. And you only have a modicum of constitutional rights when you're not a non, when you're a non citizen. So I'll just leave it at that.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Jessica and Obama did a great job. We'll talk about that as a journalist. All right, coming up Next, rejoice Swifties. St. Taylor has just blessed America with a brand new album. It's terribly mediocre. The Fastest is up next. This week on the FOX True Crime podcast, I'm joined by retired FBI Special.

[Kennedy]

Agent Stacy Perkins as she she discusses.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The bureau's Innocent Images initiative and the many child predators she has helped to bring down.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Listen and follow [e-mail].

[Kennedy]

Welcome back. It's like Christmas morning for the Swifties. Taylor Swift just dropped her new album, the Life of a Showgirl. And word is most of the tracks are about her romance with fiance Travis. Kelce Kennedy, you have listened to the entire album. You've written an article about it. Everyone check it out in the Daily Mail. Tell us about the love.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I feel like it's incredibly boring and basic. I feel like her, you know, her former phrasing and a couple of recycled beats were jammed into a Swedish chat bot. It was, it's like Ikea AI. It's contrite, it's bouncy slop. It is very boring. It is the most mediocre album she's done in quite some time. And I actually like some of the tracks on Torture Poets department, even though it was torture listening to both albums. So it's only 12 tracks, but too many.

[Kennedy]

Greg, you famously said that Taylor Swift was a four, I think. Are you revising?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, I am. In fact, I feel kind of bad about it. I look at her cover and I think she's an incredible role model. I mean, look at everything that she's achieved. When you think about it, she's, I think she's a Beacon of hope for all sixes and sevens out there. And it, like, you look at the COVID and it's like she's saying, look away if you want. I'm still here, sister. I agree with you. And I didn't even listen to the album, but I have a recommendation for an album for people who like this music that you. Have you heard of the Yvette Brothers?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay. They have a new album with Mike Patton.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, wow.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And it's amazing Americana with just a dark but uplifting tone. It's probably going to be a huge album.

[Kennedy]

All right, Haley.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah. Griff Jenkins, he is a massive Taylor Swift fan, and he really. Yeah, like, he went on, like, a monologue today on Outnumbered about it, but he pitched this album to me, saying it was about traditional values. But then Kennedy was reading me some lines about male genitalia that I didn't.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Even get into the father figure.

[Kennedy]

But they're in a committed relationship.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

That's fine. But I don't want to hear about male genitalia.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, there goes my memoir, Jesse.

[Jesse Waters]

I would like to hear about it, and that's why I would like to see my time. To Kennedy, who should be reading some of those lyrics about the Redwood. The Redwood lyrics.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Fan mail.

[Kennedy]

Friday is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, sorry.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Tommy Copper's shoulder support.

[Greg Gutfeld]

First question from Linda. Do you still get nervous before a show? Who do I go to first? How about you, Kennedy? Do you ever get nervous?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Not as much as I would like to, and I actually think nerves really help.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I agree.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, I sometimes I try and psych myself up because I miss that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, that's true. You know, Jessica, if you're not nervous, that means you're too cocky and you probably are going to be sloppy and unprepared.

[Kennedy]

Yeah, I could see that. I still got a little. Especially on, like, a big debt. Right. If there's like, you know, like, the day that the Dobbs decision came down, I remember I was like, so how about this?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Do you get nervous based on who's at the table? Like, if you find out somebody else is on.

[Kennedy]

Depending. I mean, just say it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Who's the name? Who's the name? Who's the name? Yeah.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I got.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

What are.

[Kennedy]

You know, you're here every day. You're here every day.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jesse.

[Jesse Waters]

I'm with her. No, if it's like a big day. Not Dobbs, but if it's like a big day, I'm excited to talk about it, and I can't wait to just get it off my chest.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I don't get nervous, but, like, anxious because I have so much I want to share.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's. I'm very anxious about the information. That's why I write notes.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I have to have. But I would assume that your job when you were press secretary is way more nervous.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah, but I mean, like, I wanted Jim Acosta in the room. Like, I wanted to humble him.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You're the only person who did.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I love dominatrix, but that was profit.

[Kennedy]

What about you?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I would say that I get anxious and my anxiety is that I'm not going to do as good as I should. That's why I have notes.

[Kennedy]

A letdown.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. When you're like, oh, yeah, I really blew it. But it never happens.

[Kennedy]

That happens.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, number two, what is one piece of useless knowledge that you can't help but share with other people? Oh, I already have one in my head from my old days in health magazines.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yes. That Qatar is pronounced Qatar. People who say Qatar, it's Qatar. So I love my school foreign service days. I love correcting people in that. Cutter, Cutter, Cutter.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jesse.

[Jesse Waters]

I have so much useless information that I'd love to share, and then I can never remember what it is. So I don't. There's something that I'm thinking of right now. I just can't remember it. But it's so useless. I have so much useless information up here.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, it's true.

[Jesse Waters]

I just can't remember. It is probably a good thing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Some say it's your gift. Jessica.

[Kennedy]

I'm sure there's more stuff that I can't remember right now, but I'm really annoying about the irregardless. Regardless thing that isn't actually a word and I can't control myself.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Irregardless. I will tell you that John Bolton's mustache smells like strawberries.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Let me give you one. I'm going to give you piece of knowledge that you will never forget. And this was from my days in Men's Health when I first read it, that every M and M you eat, you have to walk one city block to burn it off. Think about that. That, like when I heard that, I look at a bag of M and Ms. And I think I have to walk around the city.

[Jesse Waters]

I have a family size bag at home.

[Kennedy]

I ate a whole thing at the David Byrne concert.

[Greg Gutfeld]

One. So it's one block per mm. Man, you will never forget that potty train. One more thing is up next.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

All right, well, it's time now for one more thing. Jesse.

[Jesse Waters]

Fox Nation Patriot Awards. Here we go. Big Return. Sean Hannity's Hosting. It's Thursday, November 6th, 8pm Eastern. Will be live at the Tillis center right here in New York. Tickets on sale at Fox Nation. Patriot Awards, big show last year. I think Trump got an award. And then we're going to have some new awards and a special honor for Charlie Kirk. So get your tickets now and we hope to see you there tonight. Jesse, what is primetime? Kevin McCarthy, Carly Shimkus and Peter Navarro, 8 o'.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Clock. All right, Greg, tonight we got Le Zeldin Kennedy, Tom Shalou, Kat Tip. What an all star panel. Brett Bear, you got nothing on me. Let's do this. Animals are great. Animals are great. Animals are great. Tonight's Animals are Great will be hosted by Brett Hume. You ever see a polar bear moving to an abandoned station?

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, my God.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Look at this. This is a family of polar bears. One moved into an abandoned research station in an island in Russia. Delightful. Molly Hemingway will be joining us shortly. The station closed in the 90s, Brett, when the Soviet Union collapsed. And I think we'll talk to Mr. Kilmeade about how polar bears are typically solitary because Brian Kilmeade is a lonely, sad little man.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Thank you, Britt. Jessica.

[Kennedy]

All right, Meet these super cute sewing day ladies from Texas. The Women started in 2021 through the Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Wellness Volunteer program. They take turns every month meeting at each other's homes to sew dresses and donate them to the organization. Dress a girl around the world. I love that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You go girls.

[Kennedy]

You go girls.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

All right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Do you sew girls Saturday?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Saturday in America. Tune in. Look who we have. Nick Sorter. He was arrested after being pummeled by Antifa. Can't wait to talk to him. And then Tom Homan, Todd Lyons and Curtis Sliwa, as a democratic socialist is set to take over New York City.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Kennedy, are you going to get Sliwa to drop out of the race?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I don't know.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay, well, you're not. I'm going to be watching Saturday. That's going to be amazing.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Thank you.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right. A Slovenian climber completed an incredible climb on the wings of a flying plane. Scaling across underneath the plane. Look at that. Red Bull giant B, A L L s battling wind, freezing temperatures. He made the climb in a minute and then he capped it off by flipping off the camera and calling his mom awful names.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Wow.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And it was far harder than he ever imagined. And it is quite an impressive aerial feast.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

That is impressive. Almost as impressive as the Brit Hume impression.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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