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Hello, everyone. I'm Emily Campagno along with Jessica Tarloff, Joey Jones, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. President Trump is gearing up for his grand finale tonight, wrapping up a blockbuster five day Asia tour that's pumped billions in new investments into America with a high stakes showdown with China's President Xi. Before that crucial one on one, Trump has been making it rain trade deals, finalizing a $350 billion agreement with South Korea. And get this, South Korea's president showed his gratitude to Trump with a full on shrine dedicated to him. We're talking Trump sneakers, Trump perfume, even Melania's book, and even a T shirt with his mugshot full front and center. And that's not all. He also gifted President Trump a golden crown and medal. What?
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I have an extra one.
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Those no Kings protestors will surely melt down over the sight of Trump's golden crown and the loss of their favorite freakout topic. President Trump is ruling out a third term.
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I don't want to even talk about that because you know, the sad thing is I have my highest numbers that I've ever had.
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As I should.
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I ended eight cores and we have.
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The greatest economy in history. I have the best numbers for any.
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President in many years, Any president. And I would say that if you.
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Read it, it's pretty clear I'm not allowed to run. Stupid episteme, sir. But we have a lot of great people.
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Too bad. But now that Trump's ruled out a third term, what will liberals freak out about?
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Now, if he files to run for presidency and attempts to run for elections and then circumvents and ignores the rules, he's a violation of the Constitution of the United States and she should be arrested. I hope we're absorbing in our souls because we're talking about the soul of America is I don't think he takes himself seriously. But he iterates. He throws things out and he plays with it and he sees how people react and it manifests. If Donald Trump continues to do what he's doing across the country in Republican states, it is very hard for Democrats.
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To just sit back and watch him cheat.
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Oh, Jessica, tell me that they don't actually believe what they're saying.
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Well, this is a new tune for Donald Trump anyway, about the third term. He does like to flirt with it. And Steve Bannon was doing an interview with the Economist. It wasn't like he was doing a livestream with Alex Jones, who's actually sitting down with the Economist and he said he will be president again in 2028. There are lots of ways that they can do this. And the reporter interviewing him said, well, what about the 22nd Second Amendment? And he said, you know, we've got a plan. So, you know, Trump has demonstrated that he doesn't leave easily, I guess, when he lost a free and fair election in 2020. So I think there is reason to be concerned about that. But I want to focus on this Asia trip. The fact that our allies continue to have, I guess, gotten the memo that Donald Trump is only satiated, made happy, whatever it is. If you treat him like a toddler playing dress up and, you know, give him the crown that he wishes for or have a merch stand for them, I think it's a really sad reflection of the state of our ally ship across the world. We'll see what South Korea actually invests back into America. But they have been scared of Donald Trump and what he's been threatening since his first term when he said, for instance, that he's going to remove 10,000 troops, take them out of South Korea, which obviously leaves them incredibly vulnerable. This trip, though, overall is about Trump coming hat in hand to China and saying, will you please buy our soybeans again? I mean, the tariffs with China have created huge amount of pain for Americans, especially for our farmers. And what I'm really worried about, and we'll see what deal actually gets done, is that he is teasing the fact that he may allow them to buy Nvidia chips and this Blackwell chip, which is, was it 20 times more powerful than the chips that they're already allowed to buy. So people who are concerned about the AI race wars without with China should be very scared about the fact that he's considering that to be one of the concessions for us to be able to do another trade deal with them.
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So, Joey, in a way, that sort of proves one of the points that circulates in my head, which is that there's sort of a focus on this very important but nominal aspect of pageantry, while ignoring.
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I can't believe, I can't believe Jessica would step all over South Korean culture that way. I mean, call it what a merch stand. I mean, obviously that's something that means.
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That their culture does not like.
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Obviously that's something that means a lot to them. That big tall crown. And what was that other thing? A mirror or something? I don't know what it was, but, you know, like, that's their culture they're trying to present it to him, give him the best welcome they can because they're so happy that someone who knows how to make a deal showed up, not someone who might fall asleep in the middle of let's Make a Deal. So I think it's a great thing. President Trump was never going to run for a third term. And Bannon talks in riddle a little bit. So maybe he's talking about J.D. vance, maybe he's talking about, maybe he's talking about President Trump as in the idea of America first and MAGA will absolutely have a chance at the White House again, which is true. Because if it isn't JD Vance, Ron DeSantis embodies that a pretty good bit. And there's probably, I mean, we have a deep bench, Jessica. We have a really deep bench.
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Quake it in my we have something.
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Other than whatever Gavin Newsom is with that weird voice thing he's recruited creating right now.
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I throw no stones about a bad voice.
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Dana, talk to us about messaging and the control of it. Is that something that has been lost here or is it simply a joke by the president that now the Democrats without a sense of humor, have ran with what is happening right now?
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Well, thanks for the question. So I think in terms of messaging, when you think about a visual story, right, the Asia trip so far has been great and the fact that there's smiles and joy and we'll see how the China meeting goes. But leading up to that, that the president has resolidified allyships with all of these other countries is a good thing. And if they want to give him a crown, maybe the media can freak out about it. But it was a nice gesture. On the I do believe that the messaging on third term was beginning to block out the sun and that the juice wasn't worth the squeeze anymore to keep trolling because at some point that is all anybody can talk about. And President Trump has this long list of achievements that he would like to talk about and wants people to make sure they can roll all those things off the top of their head. But if the only thing that Democrats are going to think about for the next three years is the possibility of him usurping the Constitution and running for a third term. And I think that guy said he should be arrested if he were to do so, if that's going to do that, then every other headline gets completely pushed out. So I think it's very smart, communications wise for him to take this off the table. And if it is, some of the people that used to work for him Going out there and saying, I know he can. They at least have heard the clarion call from the commander in chief himself saying, it's not happening. So actually, can we talk about things that I want to get done right now?
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Greg, what do you think?
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What do I think? That's a great question, Emily. You know, 2025, we are truly in the golden age. Which is hilarious when you think about 2015, which was really when the Trump era began and the Dems and Republicans both tried to frame him for a golden shower. So it's so fitting that 10 years later they're the ones getting peed on. I mean, even foreign countries are getting in on the trolling. You know, South Korea gives him the crown. And it's not because, oh, oh, they're so foolish. They're indulging an egotistical leader. No, they're like the guy that kneels behind the angry, gets on all fours behind the angry. Never Trumper. And Trump just pushes him over. That's all they're doing. They're just having fun. And this is what's great about being Republican today. Our recreational beliefs are awesome, but they're harmless. Believing Trump is gonna run, saying he's gonna run, it's not gonna lead. People know Republicans to mutilate their kids or put men in women's bathrooms or force generations to put off having kids because of climate change. Our recreational beliefs don't encourage people to kill their political opponents. Our recreational beliefs are simply kind of fun. They're joyfully annoying, but it's not deadly. And if it does upset you, God, you better get outside because you've been out, You've been doom scrolling too long. Of course, Trump, he's going to deny that he's running for a third term, but don't you believe it, Dems? I would not believe it. He's definitely do it. The more he denies it, the more he means, yes, I would be safe and assume that he's going to be around here till 22. Of course he'll bring up the 12th amendment, but they'll bring up the 22nd amendment. They're just going to make him Secretary of State because whether it is Marco or jd, it's the surest way to enshrine America first and MAGA in the next term or two is to have Trump in the room. It's like, you know, you look at the track record of the safest airlines, the pilot with the most seniority is the co pilot, not the captain. That's because then you are allowed. Then it's not so bad. You can actually criticize the president. And, you know, Trump will criticize. He'll be there. And it's so much better to have him in the room than, you know, at home calling in Fox and Friends in the morning, doing hammy at night, selling relaxium during my hour. No, we want him in the room to ensure this continues.
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I thought you want, I thought, I think we're going to need him to run for mayor of New York.
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Yes, that would be nice. I'll take that, too. But I'd rather have him Secretary of state.
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All right, guys. Ahead, some shocking numbers on the shutdown battle that should send Democrats into a panic.
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We need five Democrat senators to pull their heads out of their and go.
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Work for the United States of America. Republicans in Congress trying to smack some sense into Democratic leaders for keeping the government shut down. Now on day 29, as some big deadlines loom, the troops are on the verge of missing a paycheck. And funding for SNAP food stamps is set to run out this week. And Democrats are refusing to budge because it's easier to blame the orange man. On Saturday, for the first time in American history, a vicious, heartless president is cutting off food stamps. This president is a liar. He says there's no money to provide food stamps because of the shutdown. That's Donald Trump is trying to weaponize.
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Hunger to pressure people on Capitol Hill.
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The Dems are banking on Republicans getting the blame if food banks start overflowing. But CNN's data guru says not so fast. Republican Congress's net approval rating versus pre shutdown, it's rallying the base for sure. Look at this. The net approval rating up 12 points versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with the base. It's also with the middle of the electorate. Look at this. Among independents, it's up eight points as well. So we've got a situation here where Republicans with the shutdown are actually rallying their base. But it's also something that's not hurting them with the folks in the middle anything. It's helping them with folks in the middle. You know, Dana, I think the Dems could have gotten away with the shutdown as the Republicans fault before Musk bought X. But the population is too savvy. So if you say, oh, they create the House and senate, Jessica, a 10 year old can easily refute that by just saying, no, you need 60. And that's on the Democrats.
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And the Democrats. I think the Republicans have a very simple message. The Democrats shut down the government. The Democrats could reopen the government. That's the bottom line. So I think it was a little jarring this morning to realize that one in eight Americans are still needing the supplemental nutritional supplement. Now, that is something I think post shutdown. Maybe we should all talk about.
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You should look into who. Who's getting them, what proportion of the party they belong to.
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Also the people that are. That are desperate, that do need it.
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Yeah. Versus those who don't have a way.
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Like with some more economic. Where's that plan? So I do think the polling shows that it's hurting Democrats. It's actually hurting Schumer, and his polling numbers were low to begin with. It's sort of ironic, too, that the Democrats all say that Trump is a wannabe dictator, he's a fascist, and they say that he needs to share no kings. But yet now they're saying he's the only one that could reopen the government. They could actually reopen the government. They could do it tomorrow. Senator Thune had. That was the most animated I had ever seen. That very calm Midwestern guy. He's mad. He said, we've tried to do what they want to do 13 times. There was a senator on today that said, don't let the Democrats vote piecemeal. And I think that that's the right tact.
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Mm.
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Emily, it's day 29. It's getting pretty bad. Jerry Nadler is now buying generic diapers. So bad. But do you think that when you. It feels like the key to the Democrat success is other people's suffering. They're basically taking their own constituency and holding them, like, in this kind of, like, threat. This threat. I don't know what you call it.
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Hostage.
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Hostage. Thank you.
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Anytime.
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Yeah. I think it's an abomination because they're doing that from the safety and comfort of their own offices while they're enjoying their paychecks. They are enjoying as well, for example, the protection by certain officers and Secret Service. Let's say they're not getting their paychecks. And I spent a lot of time, you know, with my friends and my family talking about this, because I see, for example, A friend of mine, Secret Service, who has a new baby at home and that's a primary income family coming from his paycheck. So what's happening? They're dipping into their savings. Their savings isn't high yield, so they're losing that interest that they've accrued. And now, sure they're going to get, you know, they'll be paid, but that's not the same thing. It actually doesn't account for the momentum that they were already getting in their accounts. Another married couple, friends of mine, are both, one is a contractor for the government, which by the way, represents almost 4 million Americans. And the other was just about, she'd accepted a contract with the government. Well, that first one has now had to totally dip into her PDOs, her paid time off to get paid because in the contractor situation, it's not definite that you get your paycheck again. And the other one, guess what she did, she rescinded her contract with the government, completely withdrawing, saying, you know what? I actually can't be a nurse for the government anymore because if this happens again, we can't feed our family because both paychecks are dependent on this. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, right? I come from a family where thankfully one of us gets paid elsewhere so that our money together combined can account for the other loss of a paycheck. So the realities of this go so much further than everyone who's fixated on Trump. It makes me sick that Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are fixated on Trump when they should be fixated on Americans, the federal administration, those employees that are going to work day in and day out and still not getting a paycheck and suffering because they are just caring about their dopamine clicks.
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Joey, you know, I think when you look at that polling, it's, I feel like part of that is due to the after the Biden cover up, no one feels compelled to take the word of Democrats or the media. They've lost credibility. So they're just, if they're blaming the Republicans, people are going like, well, then it can't be the Republicans fault.
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This is one of those things that's always hard for me to put myself in regular folks shoes because I worked on the Hill and I nerd out on the process, the legislative process. And I can talk to folks and hear.
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I can't even make a joke.
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No, I'm sorry. I was just excited to talk about this. You know, I talk the way I do and I make Jokes. And sometimes I have to remind people, actually, I'm kind of smart. I just wanted to start that way. But, like, when it comes to this government shutdown, Americans are sitting there going, wait, hold on. Two things are true, right? You can fund the government the same way it was funded for seven weeks. And then the president said he would negotiate with you on the health care stuff before that time limit comes up. Why is that a bad deal? Why doesn't that work for you and why doesn't it work for them? Because they don't think they'll win that negotiation either. And that's the problem. When Chuck Schumer stands up there and he uses cuss words, what he's really saying is every opportunity I've had to advocate for my constituents that want the policies I advocate for, I've failed at this entire time. And this is my last opportunity to get anything I would like to get done. Because I'm not very good at my job anymore. And this is all I have. And in the meantime, people who vote for him are hurting, and I don't see why they would swing towards supporting what he's doing on the SNAP thing. Just real quick, almost 700 million of $8 billion a month comes to New York for SNAP. That's almost 10%. The country's SNAP comes to New York. And that's before Mamdani becomes mayor of this place. I mean, I think you said a few seconds ago, why are people on snap? Why do they continue to need to be on snap? And maybe it does need things like work requirements. Work requirements that are so difficult that if you're under the age of 64, or if you have a child over the age of 14, 80 hours a week, you have to look for a job, train for a job, or volunteer. Oh, my God. I don't know how anybody could do that.
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And how many of that goes to illegals do we know? I don't know. I'm sure it's out there.
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So illegal you could have a legal baby, right?
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Yeah. Yeah, That's. Yeah. So, Jessica, or an American citizen, can you tell me how this is the Republicans fault? I'm asking for a friend.
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I'm glad that you saw my tweet. 3 million nasty people on the Internet. But I knew exactly what I was saying. Because the point is that with great power comes great responsibility. I heard that once in a great Spider man movie. And Republicans are in charge. They're not 60 votes in charge, but they've got a majority of the way there. And when you are in charge and you don't have all the votes that you need, it is incumbent upon you to make a deal with the people whose votes you need. And based on prior voting for CRs, you know that there are moderate Democrats who would certainly be willing to have a conversation with you if you would do that, properly timed, not open up the government and then make the same promises that they have for months. I mean this has been going on since the big beautiful bill was signed that they've been saying yeah, we want to do something on ACA premiums and then they keep kicking the can down the road. We know that Harry Entin is about to. Maybe while we're speaking right now there will be another clip with the reverse story out about what's going on. And so I'll do the work for him. Harry Anton put up the Navigator survey which shows that the American public is blaming the Republicans by 14 points now. And it was just 10 points last week. The story about Democrats cutting off SNAP benefits and that were the heartless ones. And Mike Johnson feels terrible is how you say BS Mike Johnson in his big beautiful bill, $186 billion gone from the SNAP program. And in the 2018 shutdown, Donald Trump made sure that people got their SNAP benefits because he knows that it's important. And that's why Josh Hawley wants to have a standalone bill about snap. Josh Hawley who also wants a standalone bill to make sure that people get their Medicaid coverage back because the big beautiful bill takes it away. So Gregory, that is how I have shown you that my tweet wasn't dumb and that this is the Republicans fault. If you are in charge, you have to negotiate and just saying over and over we need to open the government and then we have to do it.
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You translation? We have to negotiate meaning we have to give in to.
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You have to give something. That is how I think. And what are you planning on just.
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Just allowing this to happen? Is, is. Is a cooperation. You guys have to actually somehow stop lying to us about these benefits.
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Nothing that I have said is a lie. Nothing at all. If you get careful 90% of the big beautiful bill and you have to protect Americans health care which by the way they'll reward you at the polls because guess what, People like to have health care coverage and they don't want to see their premiums go up 114%. You will be thanking me. You will not be mocking me. You will be bowing down at my altar. I saved your party.
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Yes, yes, we know how this ends when it first started. I said, we all know how this is going to end. It will end with the Democrats caving. The pain is optional. They continue the suffering.
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Oh, I like the way you say that. Hey, I'm Dana. The pain is optional. Go sit over there. I'll be back in five minutes.
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Don't come out of your corner.
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Yes. All right, ahead, Bill Gates is coming out against climate doom. When you're in the middle.
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So the man once synonymous with climate doomerism, Bill Gates, is making a shocking about face. He wrote a new memo and he says, although climate change will have serious consequences, it will not lead to humanity's demise. The doomsday outlook is causing much of the climate community to focus too much on near term emissions goals, and it's diverting resources from the most effective things we should be doing. But will the Democrats get the message?
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You believe this is the toughest challenge humanity has ever faced?
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Absolutely.
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The world is going to end in 12 years.
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If we don't, it will be a death sentence to countless of people. A term they've coined called climate anxiety. Right, which is fear of the future and the unknown. Greg, a lot of that money that was spent funded a mass delusion, and now they're paying the price.
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It is infuriating, and it's hopeful infuriating because like the trans issue, those who questioned the lies were demonized. We are accused of putting lives in danger. It was the exact same strategy. Trillions of dollars were extorted from taxpayers based on the notion that this was an existential threat. And if you ignored it like they told you, you were going to let people die. Now we know that's a lie. And it was a lie that impacted the mental health of generations and the physical health of a civilization. People were told to stop having kids. If you had kids, you were hurting the. But it is hopeful that Gates and others are ceding to reality. We saw it happen already. Nobody's talking about the data anymore because the data, the climate models they're finally admitting are fraudulent. They were retrofitted so that they match the results that we're getting. And now that. And now, now that's out in the open. So now and then you see Greta the ghoul. She's tossed aside Mother Earth Earth for her new crusade of hating the Jews. Think about all the grifters, though, who got filthy rich off this ruse. Where is Al Gore? The patron saint of the false apocalypse. But Bill Gates, why did he do this now? I think it's because he got Divorced, you know, before he was trapped in a bad marriage, he accepted the doomsday apocalypse. You know, what do I care? I'm married, it's over. Then he gets divorced. It's like, I can live, I want to live. It's like, you're in a terrible marriage. Why try to lose weight? But then you get divorced, you get a hairpiece, you get like, you start going to the gym, you buy a sports car. That's what he now, now he realizes, boy was like, it totally changed his framework.
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And the thing that he is going to continue to do is fund new technologies, which is great. Nuclear, that would be helpful.
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New nuclear, which isn't new, but necessary.
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But the other thing that happened with a lot of this funding partly from him, but many others is great American companies were demonized and sued and had to spend a gazillion dollars to defend themselves in court, which took away opportunities for either economic growth, bonuses, other things.
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And why that is so difficult to swallow is because during that, concurrently with that, Bill Gates himself had $1.4 billion invested in fossil fuel investments. And that's actually just one of his tax report like the amount that he actually this entire time has been invested in innovations in that industry. While I think not only simultaneously demonizing it, but fostering that culture of demonizing. That was the issue. And I liken this to the trans movement where when doctors dared to say I resist this and I protest this, they were silenced, they were canceled, they were shunned professionally and personally. And here the science hasn't changed. Every scientist during this entire era that dared to say this isn't the science and this isn't what's happening. And the data does support a moderate management for it was totally shunned and kept out of the global conference and alliances that somehow were the popular kids only. And then that fomence creates people like Greta Thunberg, you know, chaining herself to the boat and whatnot. But John Kerry, right? We have nine years left in 2021. I mean, the comments go on where it was so urgent and it was so emergent. And the reality too is that there's a generation of kids in this country that do have anxiety, that do have an innate sense of fear that was passed down to them from their parents, that made them hold signs on the corner and tell them that, you know, the water was drying up and it could have this entire time been used towards stewardship, conservation measures and actual things that would have helped.
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What was it they said that the science there was no more Debate.
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Science is settled.
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The science is settled. And, Jessica, that ended up. Well, one that's. Science has never settled. But it was something that funded a lot of campaigns, small dollar donations for Democrats against Republicans for a long time.
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Definitely. And my party is in a big reassessment moment. There was that memo that came out this week, deciding to win, that surveyed 500,000 people, which I think is the largest sample size I've certainly ever combed through something. And it kept emphasizing that issues like climate change or LGBTQ issues animate a very small percentage of the base. But I think that Bill Gates is doing two things. One, he is recognizing that he got out over his skis a bit in the way that he was talking about it, like in that interview with Anderson Cooper, but also that he needs to be very strategic about how to deal with this administration and what's going on right now. And he is focusing his attention to the cuts from usaid, and he's plugging those holes because he wants to make sure that kids in Africa get their medicine and that food gets to people who actually need it. The pendulum cannot fully swing in the other direction. You know, Elon Musk is someone who believes in climate change. Obviously created a car with zero tailpipe emissions for a reason.
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And you hate them. And now you. I mean, the Democrats now hate them.
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By people, I guess. So. Not everyone. We're still driving them. We just have the bad bumper sticker that's, like, bought before Elon went crazy.
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Another thing is, is that a lot of that money went to Arabella Advisors. And that's a network that gives a lot of money to all this climate activism. Like, for example, those lunatics that throw red paint against masterpieces museums. Or how about the people that block highways and prevent people from getting to work? Think about it.
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There are two types of Americans on this issue right now. Those that are sitting there wearing our country's uniform, hoping that Congress gets its stuff together long enough that they get paid for going out on the bomb range this week or riding a helicopter over a sea this week. And those that need a safe space on their college campus because they have anxiety over science that isn't settled over climate change. Those are the two types of people. And of those two types of people, which one's most likely to vote for Trump and which one's most likely to be sane? I mean, I think that Trump has won another war. He won the climate change war. Now Americans are coming around. When you want to talk about petroleum products, think about how much oil was Used to make all those syringes for all those vaccines during COVID I mean, just the impact and imprint of petroleum on our lives is endless. And this idea that you're going to attack it is ridiculous because you want those things too. To go to rei. You know, I want to go to Bass Pro Shop, though.
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Yeah, but you got to give credit to Musk on this. Whether you're looking at the trans issue or the climate issue or even the border issue. I mean, Fox had a role in the border issue. All of these wouldn't have. A lot of this stuff would not have been exposed if he hadn't purchased X the climate. A lot of the climate hysteria and propaganda was on pre Musk X, as was the trans stuff.
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And what was that guy's name? Michael Mann.
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Michael Mann. Who's. Yeah, yeah, Hockey stick.
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Yeah. A lot of people made a lot of money and made others, others miserable. But Bill Gates, maybe he'll lead a charge here. Okay, up next, did Corinne Jean Pierre just give the worst interview of all time?
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My music makes her crazy.
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She done been there, done that, ain't coming back. No maybe. For once, both sides agree. Karine Jean Pierre is a total disaster. Her new interview with the New Yorker is getting torched. Even some big name liberals say it proves she was never qualified for the job. Much like her boss. Karine's answers make a lot of sense. And of course, the interview was identity politics galore. Karine name dropped black women 10 times and her status as a gay woman twice. A theme that's been front and center on her media tour.
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As a black woman, as a person.
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Who'S also lgbtq, as a black woman who was obviously part of the Democratic Party.
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I woke up every day as a black woman who is queer.
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I knew for myself, as a black woman, as a black woman who has.
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Walk through the walls of the White.
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House.
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Greg, you know, you're not a black woman, but I think you can understand where she's coming from. I mean, as someone under five foot five, like, you understand the discrimination that can come towards somebody that is just looks different. Yes.
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And we're also both non binary, so I do. Like she kind of has identity Tourette's. Yeah. You know, where you preface every statement with a recitation of your diversity resume. And it's kind of like establishing a pecking order for any debate. You know, it's almost like a lady's tea for conversation. Like everybody has to start here and debate, but I get to start further up from you. That's the Ladies, tea. I think I just came up with a brilliant, brilliant analogy. I'm gonna use that until you're sick of it. But I love her, and I'll tell you why. She was just doing her job. And her job was covering for Joe. The media also covered for Joe, and that wasn't their job. So they are raking her over the coals. The New Yorker, msnbc, because it's. They're trying to keep themselves from being roasted. So they're burning her, thinking, my God, she's an idiot. No, she just had to do her job. What were you guys doing? This is why CBS is lucky. The turnover there kind of gets them out of this credibility hole. And I think you're seeing it with the Washington Post, too. The legacy media is never going to apologize for the Biden scandal. They may never be held accountable. That's why they're never going to get their credibility back unless places like cbs, the Washington Post, lose that scandalous stain by relaunching with a whole new group.
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Dana, I read this whole thing, and it's like they would ask something like, how can you say that Kamala Harris was unfairly treated? And you never thought she would win and it would be, well, as a black woman, it's tough. And she was trying to connect those dots. She never got there.
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Actually, I highlighted one of those things because her answer to that was that both things, two things should be true. Right. The thing that I say the second time actually proves the thing I said the first time. And then she says, right. And in a lot of ways, this broke my heart while she was there, because I had a chance to meet her once. She was very nice, and I think she was really awful at a really great job.
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Can I ask you a question? Is she black?
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I'm gonna get back to you on that.
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All right.
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I just wanna know because I often forget.
E
The thing is, is that what she was able to do at the podium in a room of compliant, medicated media who was, like, just there to, like, we just wanna get through this briefing, get back and do our jobs. Maybe she can't do that without the podium or the room. So when she does an interview like this, she's adrift. She can't do it. And you're right. I mean, actually, all of America agrees on it. And I feel that she is a bit shameless in all of this. And here's the other thing. I would agree with you that maybe the media is at fault here, but she chose to write a book.
C
Yeah.
E
And she wrote A book. And she chose to say what she wants to say. And so now they get a chance to say, but you said. And they are exposing her at this point, maybe it's too late. But she was the press secretary at the time. I think the other big story of all of this is that in the interviews where the Biden people were called up in front of Congress, Tom Donilon admitted that he was up for a $4 million win bonus if Biden won. That's Biden's best friend. So was he going to tell Biden, you should drop out? No. So in a way, as she's saying, how could they treat him like this? But also, how could you treat America like this?
C
Jessica, she was White House press secretary. Now she's independent, she's left the Democrat Party. What does that represent? This is someone who held a pretty important office under the last Democrat president, who's already left the party. You have people attacking Mondami, saying, well, socialists aren't Democrats. You have the Cuomo section of the party. You've got Gavin Newsom. What does this, all of this say about the Democrat Party?
D
I actually think that Karine Jean Pierre says basically nothing about the Democratic Party, honestly. And the Washington Post review, which was totally scathing.
C
She was at the White House, went.
D
Over all of these reasons that someone might say that they're leaving the Democratic Party and saying, but you're leaving because they were mean to Biden. Like, she didn't articulate anything about the party or what actually happened. And Suzanna's point about you decided to write a book. She could have written a book that would have been useful for people. You could write a book about that job. Right. And what it takes or what it feels like when you have to go up to the podium and answer fierce questions about foreign policy. Move. Or the mental fitness that would never.
B
Have been in the contract. They would say, you have to write stuff about this.
D
But she didn't even. That's what's so heinous about it. And also, you don't go to the New Yorker and not think that you're going to get asked.
E
She said that it was the whole thing was just she never had tough media interviews.
C
Yeah.
E
So she would think, oh, the New Yorker, that's going to be great.
B
All right. Especially as a black lesbian.
C
What do you think about it?
A
Yeah, I think not only did she choose to write a book, but she chose to write one where she said she was extracting herself from the Democrat Party because it had betrayed her. And the president and the country, and then fails to articulate how and why she's still as vague and Mandarin as she was behind the podium. And this complicit media that leans in and says, yes, tell me more. As she just checks her boxes verbally and plays her trump card all the time, like, they. They are participating, too, because they're egging this on.
C
I think the most telling thing about it is she came in with Kamala and became a Biden loyalist.
B
So that's a good point.
C
All right, up next, a group of lab monkeys. Well, they're on the loose, if you contracted Covid.
B
And you're.
D
Welcome back. Three aggressive lab monkeys are still on the loose in Mississippi tonight after a truck carrying 21 of them overturned on the highway. Eight managed to escape. Five were captured and killed. Early reports claim that the monkeys were infected with hep C, herpes, and even Covid, but the university they came from disputes it. Greg, this totally freaks me out. Outbreak.
B
Okay, let's dissect this first. What is the rule? And you might know this, Emily, because you're a lawyer, the rule that forbids hospitals for disclosing your medical hipaa. Where is the HIPAA for these monkeys? Like how? Like, okay, they have no way to say whether they have hep C or herpes or Covid. They probably don't, because that was the van driver who said that to the cops. He doesn't know. This is blown out of proportion. And my feeling is these lab monkeys have been living a very hard and miserable life. They get out during a car accident, they're being smeared with these diseases. Cut them a break. If they put these monkeys down. They should let these monkeys be free and be adopted. All the suffering they've experienced. Imagine being those monkeys. Your entire life has been animal tested. Car accident, then they tell everybody you got herpes. Let these guys have a normal life now. Haven't they been through enough? What else do you want to do to these monkeys? Jessica, why do you hate monkeys?
D
I love monkeys. Dana.
E
I was gonna say animals are great.
B
Yes.
E
That's all I got.
C
Joey, it's Mississippi, and it's hunting season. They don't need to look for these monkeys. Just wait a little while.
B
Aw, they're rhesus monkeys. Time for Halloween.
A
No, I love them. I love this story. Go be free. Run wild. I love you guys. It's like, secretive nimh. And also, I was thinking about. I wish that everyone would have the same carefulness every time that they go to a bar in college when every guy in there is probably riddled with STDs too.
E
Okay, one more thing.
D
Up next, it's so.
E
Should we take a look at. It's time now for one more thing. I have good information. Or maybe that was for Emily. Sorry, Emily, we only have a minute because we are talking about monkeys. If you're a 5 super fan, we have exciting opportunity for you. You can win an all expenses paid trip to New York City for our annual tree lighting event next month by playing Fox's American Culture quiz. The sweepstakes starts today, so visit foxnews.com games to learn more. We hope to meet you. Sorry, Emily.
D
Okay. Things are getting really spooky at the San Francisco Zoo. Lemurs, giraffes, zebras and more munching on tasty seasonal snacks in the spirit of Halloween. Animals are great.
A
Great. All right, guys. Cooking with heart at the Hoboken shelter, the King of Mozzarella himself, Vito of Vito's Deli, teamed up with Reverend Tony to turn the sanctuary into a mozzarella making class. It all supported the Hoboken Shelter where hundreds are fed and cared for each day and night. It was such a blessing to roll up our sleeves with Reverend Tony and learn the art from the King of Mutts himself.
C
Oh, check this out. I got a video of a first responder state trooper here in Missouri getting a hay bale out of the road. Those things can weigh like 500 up to like a thousand pounds. Check him out. He's got it. You know that boy played football?
D
You got it.
A
Amazing.
E
You got it.
C
He's got it.
E
There you go.
C
Boom.
B
Dang. That's good.
E
That's pretty good.
A
Okay, that's it for us.
B
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Date: October 29, 2025
Host and Panelists: Emily Campagno (Host), Jessica Tarlov, Joey Jones, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld
Theme: The episode dives into the week’s hottest political controversies, focusing on President Trump’s Asia trip, U.S.-China relations, the government shutdown, climate discourse shifts, Democratic Party divisions, and lighter news stories. The show’s trademark banter, mockery, and sharp debate are in full effect throughout.
Segment begins: 00:05
Trade Wins and Wild Gifts:
Emily opens with President Trump’s whirlwind Asia tour, highlighting a $350 billion South Korea trade deal and a “shrine” of Trump merch including a crown presented by South Korea’s president.
Third Term Trolling:
Trump rules out a third term, but his and Steve Bannon’s wordplay keeps media and critics guessing.
Panel Opinions:
Segment begins: 10:50
Lay of the Land:
With the shutdown at day 29, Democrats and Republicans blame each other as food stamps and paychecks run out.
Polling:
Surprisingly, Republicans see a net approval boost among both their base and independents.
Debate Over Responsibility:
Notable Exchange:
Segment begins: 22:03
Bill Gates’ Reversal:
Gates’ new memo argues climate change, while serious, “will not lead to humanity’s demise” and condemns climate anxiety and misplaced short-term goals.
Panel Skepticism & Sarcasm:
Memorable Quip:
Segment begins: 29:56
Critique of New Interview:
Her New Yorker interview gets panned by both sides, with panelists mocking the frequent invocation of her identity.
Panel Jabs:
Segment begins: 36:55
Segment begins: 39:03