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Dana Perino
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Katie Pavlich, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. The fate of the war in Ukraine and peace on the European continent hanging in the balance today at the White House. President Trump hosted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, along with a lineup of European leaders just days after his pivotal sit down with Vladimir Putin. No big Oval Office blow ups like last time. It was very calm. And they made inroads on a possible trilateral summit deal between Russia, Ukraine and the U.S. first of all, thank you.
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Greg Gutfeld
For invitation and thank you very much.
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Jesse Waters
For your efforts, personal efforts to stop killings and stop this war.
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Greg Gutfeld
Thank you.
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Donald Trump
This isn't my war. This is Joe Biden's war. He's the one that had a lot to do with this happening.
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Harold Ford Jr.
First of all, Mr. President Zelensky, you.
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Katie Pavlich
Look fabulous in that suit.
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Greg Gutfeld
I said the same thing.
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Jesse Waters
Yeah, you look good.
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Donald Trump
I said the same thing. Yeah, that's the one that attacked you last time.
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Harold Ford Jr.
See, I remember that.
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Donald Trump
No matter what I do, no matter what, and you know, this is not anything to do with you, it's probably to your advantage in a certain way. But no matter what I do, no matter what deal I make from my standpoint, you'll come out good. Maybe President Putin will come out good, but they'll say Trump was absolutely horrible. I used to get great publicity. Now I get the worst publicity anyone has ever gotten in office. And we've made more progress in settling this war in the last two months than they made in four years. This should have been settled a long time ago, but it should have never happened.
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Dana Perino
Later on, President Trump holding a family photo with European and NATO leaders. And then a roundtable where there was plenty on the agenda, everything from possible land swaps to Russia agreeing to accept security guarantees for Ukraine.
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Donald Trump
I believe that in a very significant step, President Putin agreed that Russia would accept security guarantees for Ukraine. And this is one of the key points that we need to consider. And we're going to be considering that at the table.
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Dana Perino
Hi, Jesse. Welcome back.
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Jesse Waters
It's good to be back around the table.
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Dana Perino
So one thing that is really interesting is that under President Biden, remember, the line was over and over again, as long as it takes. But if you think about it, initially they didn't give them the weapons they needed to win. They just slow walked that and dribbled it out over time. And now no one is arguing for the continuation of the war. Not even Putin or Zelensky.
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Jesse Waters
And that's a good thing. And it's a good thing that Zelensky wore a suit or a semi suit. People say that's trivial. Jesse, why do you care what he wears? I care because it's a sign of respect, and the American people agree with me. And it's also a sign that he stepped up his suit game of warming relations between Trump and Zelensky. Remember a couple months ago, they had the big nasty blow up. And what do we say at the time? You know, deals blow up and they get put back together, guys fight, and then they patch it up.
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Dana Perino
Not like women patch it up at the Vatican.
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Jesse Waters
Women hold grudges. Dana, could you imagine Kamala Harris doing this type of diplomacy, flying to Alaska, bringing all these world leaders to D.C. she could never have pulled it off. Not because she's a woman, Dana, because she's Kamala.
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Greg Gutfeld
She'd be in duty free most of the time.
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Jesse Waters
The war has lasted three years. Every war over the last hundred years has been longer. Both world wars, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. If he can patch this up this quickly, it would be a historic success. And how did he do it? I believe it was these secondary sanctions on Russian energy exports, because that was about three weeks after he did that, that they had that phone call, and then they had this meeting. And also, these oligarchs want their yachts back. I always like to ask when Jessica's here, not you, Harold. What is the Democrat plan? Because right now they're saying armchair quarterbacking. You can't reward Putin for his naked aggression, so he can't keep the land he won on the battlefield. Okay, how are you going to get Vladimir Putin to relinquish the land he won in battle? The United States won lands in battle. We didn't just give it back. No country gives back land they win in battle. That's what this is all about. You have to accept reality, and that's what these Democrats are doing. Borders change all the time. You can't go back to the borders that Ukraine had. Think about Germany. It used to be the Prussian empire, then it was the German empire. It expanded, it contracted in the world wars, and then they divide it in two, and now it's reunited. And they can't do this to Ukraine. Come on, that's ridiculous. Trump's just stopping the bleeding. Bill Clinton was the one that made Ukraine give away its nukes. Then he invaded Crimea under Obama's watch. And when Joe said don't, Vlad went in strong. Trump is just there to patch things up. And he's doing it not by being bullied like the media says he's being bullied. Putin's bullied all these other Democrats in office. This guy threatened to nuke Moscow. Think about it. He was going to bomb the bejesus out of their capital. If Vlad tried this on the last watch, he saw this coming, too. Remember Nord Stream? He said, no, no, no. He said, beef up your military in NATO. And he got it done. And now if you can end this war now and you can guarantee European soldiers to go onto the front lines if lad gets this dumb idea back in his head and we get the minerals and we get the drone technology out of the Ukrainian military. Pretty good win.
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Dana Perino
Jesse, you're kind of like a woman today.
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Jesse Waters
Because I talk too much?
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Dana Perino
No. Well, I remember when Peter would be. We would be gone for like 12 hours when we first met, and he would go to work and then he'd come back and I would talk straight for an hour and a half because I had no one else to talk to. And you've been gone for a week. And we appreciate your contribution. And that was beautiful.
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Jesse Waters
Thank you. Thank you, Dana, for that positive encouragement.
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Dana Perino
Harold, one of the things that I think that this showed as well is just the power and exceptional nature of America because President Trump had the power to convene. I mean, it takes weeks just to schedule to see your dentist. And everybody dropped everything in order to be here at the White House today.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Well, I'm glad Jesse's back. It was, it was great to see, really, the last 72 to 96 hours. I give the President a lot of credit. I thought it took a lot of courage and a lot of choreography and a lot of restraint to have Putin in Alaska. And for those that know history, you know, that the Russians had to sell us Alaska. And it's become such an important part of not only our military, but our economic growth over the many, many years as well. And for Putin to have to negotiate there. There was so much that was involved. And you think to your point, Dana, here we are, several, just a few days later, 48, 72 hours later, and you have basically the entire European, the structure, the most important and longest serving allies we have there, as well as the heads of the EU and the head of NATO. What I found interesting were a couple of things. My takeaways. One, salute to Steve Young. Doocy Peter Ducey. He asked a great, great question to open up the meeting between President Trump and Mr. Zelensky. He asked a very direct question to both of them. And I thought it took courage and it was the right question. Two, we are now seeing, Jesse, what some of the contours of the deal could be to hear and watch Mr. Zelensky learn from his February meeting to be positive and to lay out what it is that he wants. He talked about security guarantees and prisoner swaps. I presume that means also the children that the first lady, I thought so eloquently and powerfully has asked about. And three, Jesse, I differ with you just slightly, but the Democrats have nothing to do. There were Republicans and Democrats who were concerned about the meeting with Putin, and there were even some Republicans who were mildly critical of giving Mr. Putin the stage there in Alaska. I was not. And there were some Democrats that were as well. I think when I think about the lines, and I don't know if. I don't know if you meant it this way, so I'm not going to. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here. But when you think about, we won the Cold War, we spent a lot of money and time and effort to do that. And as a result, lines were drawn and perks were given. Mr. Putin, throughout his time in public life, has made clear that he wants to reconstitute the geographic footprint, the power print of what the USSR was. You don't want that. He wants that. And I think when we talk, if we talk too casually about redrawing lines, we run the risk of saying to countries like Latvia and Estonia and Lithuania, don't worry if he gets in there and he takes over parts of your country, we'll only come in and help you establish peace if you give pieces of it up. I'm not saying that's where President Trump is. I'm not convinced that President Trump is ready to give any more than Crimea. That's the one thing he did say in social media. I am not convinced that he's willing to give up one third of Ukraine. Now they have 20% they're in occupation of. Putin wants 10% more. Can you imagine if someone told America, we want 30% of your country and.
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Jesse Waters
Miami, obviously that's just a deal. He's trying to.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No, no, no.
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Jesse Waters
No one's going to give up land they don't have. Right.
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Harold Ford Jr.
But I'm only saying. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying. You're saying this. My only point is I give President Trump tremendous credit for where we are and if he is able again to engineer this deal. We've been saying for weeks on this show. I would be the first. I would hope you would invite me down to the White House when the President is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, because he would absolutely deserve it.
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Dana Perino
Greg, a lot of people will complain about Trump's how, not necessarily the why. So everyone now, however, seems to be okay with the how because he's also talking about security guarantees. And the Europeans are like, okay. And we're waiting to just get confirmation on this. You know, he wanted to call Putin right there with everybody and just say, do we have a deal?
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Greg Gutfeld
Right. I, before I, before I compliment the President, I am confused about security guarantees without being a NATO. That's kind of like a foreign policy version of Friends with Benefits. You know, there's no ring on the finger, no formal commitments, but whenever you want, like a casual get together, we'll be there. I don't see how that works. I mean, I guess you could do it, but it kind of negates the utility of NATO, Right? I mean, it's like, why get married if you can milk the cow for free? That's what my mom used to say. And I said, mom, I'm not into that sort of thing. But anyway, maybe you don't. I mean, it's like almost like, well, maybe you don't need NATO if you get the same perks without being in NATO. But the spectacle of this is undeniable. It feels like optimism. It looks like progress, because that's Trump's mindset. It's the cliched power of positive thinking. It actually works. Fact is, if you want war, you know, there'll be plenty of people who will accommodate. They make a lot of money off it, but he doesn't want it. And you ask about, you know, what's behind him. He is the most anti war president ever. And you can question why. Who cares? I, my, my theory is he can't compute waste. Whether it's blood money or time, he just doesn't, he can't stand it. You know, how many peace deals has he broke brokered so far? You had Cambodia and Thailand, you had Rwanda in the Republic of Congo, Albert Congo, Kondo abroad, Aber, Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan and Armenia. I don't need to pronounce them. India and Pakistan, and I think there was Egypt in Ethiopia. There's more than a few. Life is unpredictable. I mean, the bellicose personality we have ever seen on the political stage is also the most effective peacemaker we've seen. I do love how the media portrays him as weak. As every world leader comes to meet with him. If Obama had done this, they would give him another Nobel, a Grammy, an Oscar, a Tony and the Stanley Cup. And then you have these other guys. How dare. There must be an alternative to this. They don't want communication with Putin. But these are the people that always say, let's have a conversation, but they never really actually want one at all. So I think this is another kind of great thing that is probably gonna turn out to be great. And a lot of people are gonna hate that. It's great.
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Dana Perino
Don't forget, they would have given Obama the Heisman. Yes, they would have as well, I think.
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Greg Gutfeld
And he throws like a girl baseball trophy.
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Dana Perino
Yikes. Kidding. Katie, let me give you the last word. We covered a lot of it.
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Kat Timpf
Well, there were no daddy references today. So the head of NATO fail to bring that back to the table. Remember, he called him Daddy at the NATO summit and then addressed it last time he was in the Oval Office. But I just can't. I mean, this is a president who went to Alaska on Friday, flew B2 bombers over the head of Vladimir Putin, had a summit, flew back, got home at 4 in the morning, then went golfing both Saturday and Sunday. Gets this meeting together today and has every single leader there say, we've done more in the last two weeks than we've done over the last three and a half years. So that not only emphasizes President Trump's leadership on the global stage to get results, but it also shows just how absent Joe Biden was for the last three and a half years and how dangerous it was for the United States on the global stage to be completely MIA from actually trying to manage and prevent this war from starting in the first place. I also found that Trump's humility today was very interesting. He is a deal maker. He's always very confident he can get something done. I think he still is confident, but he kept saying, look, we're going to do our best to get something done, but maybe we won't get a deal. So we're still watching this.
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Dana Perino
I thought too, like, he was recognizing and being mindful that everybody there has their own constituencies.
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Kat Timpf
Right.
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Dana Perino
Including Zelensky. He himself does. And then everybody else, including Macron. I hope they gave him the business about recognizing Palestine as a state, too. Yeah, in the off. In the off the record part. So we also have this. I mentioned it a little bit. Fox News confirmed that President Trump's multilateral meeting with European leaders and President Zelensky has ended. So we're keeping an eye on that. But coming up, let's talk about D.C. residents. They are already feeling safer with Trump's crime crackdown, but some Democrats still will not say it out loud.
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Greg Gutfeld
Free and easy down the road I go. Free and easy down the road I go.
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Donald Trump
Democrats are calling me up and they're saying, sir, I want to thank you. My wife and I went out to dinner last night for the first time in four years and Washington, D.C. is safe. And you did that in four days. I'll tell you, it's safer.
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Kat Timpf
That was President Trump touting his crime crackdown in D.C. and it looks like it's already paying off. Since the operation kicked off on August 7, cops have made more than 380 arrests. Now locals are breathing easier, finally walking streets that aren't ruled by teen thugs and chaos. But leave it to the Democratic Party to scoff at public safety.
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Jesse Waters
All of this is a total abuse of power.
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Greg Gutfeld
It's a manufactured emergency.
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Harold Ford Jr.
What's happening here in Washington, D.C. is just a stunt. Donald Trump didn't like the fact that.
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Katie Pavlich
The walls were closing in on him.
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Harold Ford Jr.
And so, true to form, he just decided to create a new news cycle.
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Greg Gutfeld
This is nothing but a big dogging pony show to make people look like everything is so bad in these big black cities. And plain and simple, Donald Trump wants to distract.
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Kat Timpf
So, Dana, you have all These Democrats saying this is a distraction, abuse of power, it's a fake emergency. But the Department of Justice and FBI put out every morning who they've arrested, what they arrested them for being very transparent.
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Dana Perino
And I'm not surprised that Senator Van Hollen, who went to a foreign country to visit an illegal immigrant gang member who was also accused of domestic violence, is upset that there's a crackdown on D.C. crime. You also have all of these white liberals on Twitter say things like, I've had my car broken into six times, but I'm still against this. I also believe that we're just at the beginning stages. Right. So one of the things you and I talked about this morning is that a lot of people take the train. A lot of people use that as the Metro station at Union. Union Station. It has been horrible for about a decade. Right. Homeless people, drug use. It's uncomfortable to go there. Nobody wants to go there, but how else are you going to get up and back and forth to D.C. and elsewhere? So that was one of the first places that got addressed. You saw some criticism over the weekend, like yesterday, saying, well, wait, why isn't he and I, we don't have anything in our neighborhood yet. I think it's been a week. Let's see how it goes. But in addition to having a presence of the law enforcement and it, that helps, obviously, but it will be in the prosecution. And one of the things that they're going to have to have is some changes to those city council laws. And so all of this is happening while there's this amazing transparency to say, would you have preferred that we not arrest these people? Yeah, And I don't think that their answer would be yes.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah. And they finally have a crime lab that can still do that, can now do some testing. They still can't do ballistics testing, however, they have to send that out. So, Greg, there's a big difference between feeling safe and actually being safe. I mean, you take hundreds of people off the streets who have done things like stab others while they're at Union Station, for example, you actually are safer.
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Greg Gutfeld
In D.C. i just worry that Trump is targeting our most vulnerable stabbers.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah, you got to walk out for that.
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Greg Gutfeld
It is hysterical how every time the media interviews an actual DC Citizen hoping for a viral clip of them bashing Trump. It's never that way. It's always the opposite. And they're always black. Meanwhile, you look at the protests and they're wider than Brian Kilmeade's fan club. There's nothing more Harmful to a black person than a virtue signaling white liberal. If they are more responsible for more suffering than drugs, crime, poverty, because they're the ones that are always defending and or enabling it. So you can't get better. I'm waiting for the argument to come out that since crime and chaos has gone down in D.C. they've lost a bit of their culture. You know, I used to remember going down to D.C. it was so exciting. You never knew if you were going to make it home. And I like it. Back when they had the sex workers and the carjackers, that's the conversation you used to get about New York in the 70s. Oh, the peep shows. That was amazing. You had pimps everywhere. Stuff written by guys that Jesse loves to read. Where am I? Oh, this also proves that the broken window policing actually works. That when you, when you enhance the neighborhood and you make it safer from smaller infractions, then larger infractions don't take place. For a while, though, the libertarians were peddling a study saying, oh, it didn't work. But they, the stats turned out to be completely unreliable. What was unreal, what was reliable were your eyes and your ears.
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Jesse Waters
You.
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Greg Gutfeld
Anybody who lives in a neighborhood with broken windows policing can tell you that it works. Nice places are victimized. And if you can't, if you can't stop graffiti, you're telling criminals you can't stop anything.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah. So, Jesse, the President's been getting a little criticism because they're saying, well, they're only sending the National Guard troops to places like the National Mall and the monuments and places where the tourists go. It's like, yeah, that's kind of the point. So Americans can go visit their capital city. And by the way, earlier this year, one of those gangs that, you know, on the Forerunners and all the bikes, the motorbikes, they rode through the World War II memorial on the National Mall in the middle of the night. So they actually are needed on the National Mall.
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Jesse Waters
I was in Maine when this broke and we didn't have access to TV or Internet. And so it came up at dinner with my liberal family members who live in D.C. and they were like, yeah, crime's pretty bad. They didn't call them a fascist. They didn't call him a dictator. They didn't push back at all. They're like, our homeless problem is out of control. And that tells me they're secretly happy about it. Just like they're secretly happy about the border and the trans stuff and the fact that their taxes didn't go up Harold Ford Jr. They are basically wearing hats that say Trump was right about everything. Not really, but we know the hat you're really wearing. Pirro can now prosecute people, something she was born to do, something she dreams about. And those aren't nightmares. Those are nightmares for the people she's prosecuting and she's not prosecuting. Republican grandfather who trespass and put their feet up on Pelosi's desk. Hardcore criminals. That's who's getting the boot. And the fact that Trump is cleaning up graffiti, bad hombres, criminals and everything else in D.C. and the Democrats are saying, we're against that. That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They're calling it a power grab. Yeah, it is a power grab. Democrats had this power to fight crime, weren't using it, so Trump grabbed their power and used it to fight crime. Americans like power grabs like that.
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Kat Timpf
Well, in the case of the District of Columbia, it actually is a federal district, so he's just taking back the power, which originally is with the federal government, not with the D.C. council, even though they still have to change their laws. Heralds, would you like to respond to the accusations against Democrats that love criminals and don't want to fight crime?
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Harold Ford Jr.
We absolutely know, everyone knows. We don't, we don't like that, don't, don't support that. But I think some of the things.
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Kat Timpf
Chris Van Holland does.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No, I know Chris Christen is not a proponent of crime, but I think he's wrong here. The way Democrats are going about doing this, I've said for some time, I think someone framed it. Communities that are safe. If someone's telling you the numbers in your community suggest you should be safe, if someone's telling you the numbers around the economy suggest you're doing well, but you don't believe you're doing well or you feel unsafe, then you're unsafe. I think we could quarrel about whether there should be this number of tanks, this number of National Guard in a neighborhood, or what neighborhoods they should go to. But one thing is for certain, there is no doubt people feel Safer in Washington, D.C. over the last several days after the things that are happening in the city. I've said to Democrats, if we are, if there are things we don't like about what President Trump is doing in this regard, you can't deny the predicate here. There's a crime problem, there's a violent crime problem. We think we have better answers then offer legislation to do it. I've also said to President Trump that I think a national crime bill would probably be the better way to ensure that you can democratize or spread this across the country. Because as Katie just said, and I think this is one of the worst things that's happened to taxpayers in a while, that D.C. residents aren't treated as a state, but since they're not President Trump and any president has the authority there because it' sthe federal government has the rights to do the things that they're doing there. Democrats, why not offer a broken windows bill? Jesse said it well. Why not say we want to provide more money for cities to stop illegal vending and outdoor drug use and loud music and abandoned vehicles, the very small things that impact neighborhoods and communities that many of you, those of you in elected office never have to deal with. Greg talks about this all the time, about people who have, who are in elected office who say they don't want, they want to defund the police, but they have policemen around them. If you live in a neighborhood where crime is rampant, if you live in a neighborhood where you're worried about your kids being able to go to school, walk to school, walk to a store in the corner, you welcome these things. So Dems, get your heads out of here and realize that in order for us to address this, address it with a countermeasure, not the things that you guys are saying, because I can assure you this issue is going to bite us like the border did if we don't pay attention.
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Kat Timpf
Yeah, well, I remember Tim Scott introducing legislation in the first term and Democrats torpedoed it. So up next, Gavin Newsom has blood on his hands after an illegal alien from California causes a deadly car crash.
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Katie Pavlich
Progressive.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Makes it easy to get.
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Greg Gutfeld
This is Jimmy Falla. Invited you to join me for FOX Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats. Dumb ideas. Just kidding. It's only a three hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast@foxacrossamerica.com.
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Harold Ford Jr.
The White House is attacking California Governor Gavin Newsom after a deadly crash on a Florida highway. Horrifying video from last week shows an illegal immigrant truck driver allegedly making a reckless u turn across three lanes and resulting in a wreck that killed three people in a minivan. A senior ICE source says U.S. marshals arrested the illegal immigrant in California over the weekend, which is where he got his commercial driver's license from. He'll now be extradited to Florida to face three counts of vehicular homicide. An awful, awful story. Jesse, your thoughts about this?
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Jesse Waters
Well, they keep saying that these illegals are doing the jobs that Americans won't do. But many Americans would love to drive big rigs. You could make $150,000. You get great benefits. You can. A lot of people would love this job. So that line is BS And Gavin Ouzhi should call the families of these people who passed away. It's the least he could do. I think any governor whose citizen kills someone from another state should call those people and apologize. Especially when their policies have a lot to do with the vehicular homicide. Now there's three dead people, and they have families. And this will come up when he runs for president. These are now angel moms and dads, and you can't ignore these people. I would advise Gavin Newsom, which I don't know why I'm doing. You gotta call these people right now, because people are gonna. They'll be appearing with JD Vance at a press conference and saying, your deadly policies killed my son or daughter.
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Harold Ford Jr.
D.P. your thoughts?
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Dana Perino
Well, I think that we've had this debate for a while about states that are wanting to give driver's license for business purposes to people who are illegal. And it's always kind of curious if somebody comes from a position of saying, that doesn't really make any sense. And also you wonder, well, then, if you get the driver's license in California, a CDL commercial driver's license, then should that only be allowed to be driven in California? And then he wouldn't have the issue of the JD Vance callout at the convention. The other thing is. Or at the debate. The other thing for me is that for the last week, Gavin Newsom. And why am I giving him advice? You have to stop it with the Twitter thing. I don't know where his wife is. If I were his wife, I would say, you are making a fool of yourself. Stop it. Do not let your staff tweet. And if you're doing it yourself, put the phone away and start over. And if you. He's got a big job as governor of California, but if he wants an even bigger job, he has to be a little bit more serious.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Tragic story.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. And Newsom blames Trump because Trump was president when this guy got his license in California. But it's the state that determines eligibility. They have the autonomy over this. So, you know, I'm sure that if Trump knew about this at the time, he would have done something. But a lot of people didn't know what the libs were up to until it got too late. We didn't know about the millions and millions of People coming across the border, we were talking about it, but you know, it took years of us. So it's interesting if you look at the breakdown across the country. Republican led states don't offer licenses to illegals. It's only Democrat led states that do that. 19 states permit illegals to drive. How long will that last? This is where I think Trump could do something. Go after the companies who hire illegals for driving. If you, if you have an illegal alien driving one of your vehicles, I don't know whether it's, I don't know, Penske, whatever, you're screwed because then you're responsible. Like whoever had that truck, I don't know if that's their truck. Who knows? And I think Jesse's right. I think Gavin is toast because there's a direct line from California policy to people's death. And what connects that is the sanctuary philosophy, the idea that illegals don't just get a place to live, they get benefits. So I think that there's no way that he can answer this question. He's going to be defensive. He's going to say they could have. The government shouldn't have given him that license. I wasn't even governor then. It doesn't matter. You are the governor now. You knew that this was happening instead, what you were doing, you were cosplaying on X, pretending to be Trump. He does more work avoiding work. You know, if, you know, if he just took 10 minutes two years ago to make a couple of decision on trans and sanctuary city and homelessness and drug addiction, he wouldn't be in the situation he is now because he's such a coward. Now he pays the price because others paid with their lives.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Again, this is not, you don't have to react this. But he did come in, I guess he came in in 2018 as a, got away and we didn't. Whatever. I just. So again, yeah, it's the, put the Biden stuff I get. But no doubt about it, if he broke the law under anyway. So you don't have to react to that. I just want to make sure that point was, was, was known.
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Kat Timpf
Well, I have always heard from the left that sanctuary jurisdictions are in place because they're compassionate. Well, this is not compassionate at all. There's a family that's been destroyed as a result of this in another state that doesn't have the same sanctuary policies as California does. And this is a guy who, if he, when he got this, this big rig license to drive commercially, had to have training. So he either had the training and he didn't care to make this turn or he didn't have the proper training on top of getting this license. I defer to. He just didn't care because when he reacted to what happened because of his actions, he had no emotion on his face whatsoever. He came into this country illegally, crossing the border as a gotaway, evading arrest. When they caught him, he said, oh, I'm too afraid to go to India, committing asylum fraud likely. And so he got to stay in the country and now he's arrested in Florida and the local jurisdiction is going to prosecute him in addition to the federal government. He was in California when this crime happened. They probably wouldn't let the feds prosecute him because there's sanctuary jurisdiction. So again, sanctuary policies are not compassionate and there are serious consequences for American families as a result of this kind of thing that Newsom and Democrats in general have embraced over the last couple.
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Harold Ford Jr.
He got in under Trump and Trump's team let him go. They let him back in, just for.
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Kat Timpf
The record, because he committed asylum fraud.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Right up next, the gerrymanders standoff ends. Texas Dems return home. But Democrats like Congressman Eric Stalwell are still itching for a fight.
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Katie Pavlich
When they go low, we're going to bury them below the Capitol. That's what we're going to do. Because this is about protecting democracy and.
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Donald Trump
We were trying different things and we.
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Greg Gutfeld
Were smoking funny things.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Making love.
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Dana Perino
When investing leads to questions.
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Greg Gutfeld
An official message from Medicare. I'm saving money on my Medicare prescriptions. Maybe you can save too. With Medicare's extra help program, my premium is 0 and my out of pocket costs are low. Who should apply? Single people making less than $24,000 a year or married couples who make less than $32,000. Even if you don't think you qualify, it pays. To find out.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Go to ssa.gov extrahelp paid for by the US Department of Health and Human Services.
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Jesse Waters
The Texas Democrats are waving the pride flag of surrender. They came crawling back to the State House after two weeks on the lam. And now Republicans can get their brand new midterm map. But the hardest hit by the Lib surrender, America's soy boy Congressman Eric Stalwell.
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Katie Pavlich
When they go low, we're going to bury them below the Capitol. That's what we're going to do. Because this is about protecting democracy. And right now, as you see, D.C. has been militarized and we were weak as Democrats. Either we're on our heels and the most vulnerable are on their heels reacting to Donald Trump or he's on his heels reacting to us.
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Jesse Waters
Harold, what does that mean? Bury us beneath the Capitol?
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'm not sure. I misspoke and call the congressman stalwart. Swalwell. I disagree with the. I disagree with the approach here. I don't know what Barry. Republicans below the Capitol. He may get arrested by the National Guard to try to do something like that. I think I understand politically what you're saying Congress, but I think the effort could be your energies and efforts should be directed and other places people are struggling in the country. I think there are problems with the big beautiful bill. Go out and talk about restoring Medicaid and providing tax cuts to everyday working Americans, not just the people the president has targeted. When you do this, when we do this, I think we find ourselves even more outside of the mainstream.
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Jesse Waters
You lost me when you said Medicaid. I'm sorry.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Medicaid is something that a lot of.
- [34:56]
Jesse Waters
Americans in red states has.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Their health care.
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Jesse Waters
We're doing a television show. What do you think, Katie?
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Kat Timpf
I don't think Eric swallows buff enough to bury anybody. So he keeps making these toxic, you know, masculinity references. It's not working for him. But be careful what you wish for. Democrats, Republicans have 14 states where they're in control and they can redistrict. Completely buried Democrats on the electoral map if you want to go tit for tat. So good luck with that. Democrats always do these things like blow up the filibuster. They're warned about it and then a couple years later when it comes back and the Republicans play by their rules, they're just outraged that how could this happen? So good luck.
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Jesse Waters
A lot of tough talk from him. First the bench press, then burying us under the Capitol. Greg, what's gotten into this guy?
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Greg Gutfeld
I know put up that, that, that, the supermarket thing where he's, where he's price checking things. I know that if only there was an actual word you could use for mentally retarded that doesn't get you into trouble, but I don't know if there is one. You know, I'm just happy that he's not shoplifting like other Democrats. And he's wearing his hat backwards, which. He's 44 years old. This is a guy who wears athletic wear outside the gym and probably wears swim shorts inside the Planet Fitness Shower.
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Jesse Waters
With respect, I wear my hat backwards.
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Greg Gutfeld
Do you really?
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Jesse Waters
Yeah.
- [36:20]
Greg Gutfeld
That is so stupid.
- [36:21]
Jesse Waters
Well, you switch it up. You know, sometimes it's for.
- [36:24]
Greg Gutfeld
How does it.
- [36:24]
Jesse Waters
Because I'm a real person.
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Katie Pavlich
Greg.
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Greg Gutfeld
No, no, it's.
- [36:28]
Jesse Waters
You're trying your hat backwards. You probably don't even wear a hat.
- [36:31]
Greg Gutfeld
I don't have to. I have real hair.
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Kat Timpf
I have real hair from double collar to backwards hat.
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Dana Perino
Well, I think stall well is a better name for him because what, did they smell? Well, no, stall well, but they actually stalled poorly because what did they do? They elevated Newsom and Pritzker. They made a ton of money for those guys. Name ID for those guys. In the meantime, we all knew how this was going to end. Texas will go forward and do it because now they have all of the Democrats back. They have a quorum. And sure enough, as with any of these stories, if you dig a little bit deeper, you find out. Oh, actually, all of this redistricting might actually help Republicans in the long run. So. Well done, Stalwell.
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Jesse Waters
Well done, Stalwell. Up next, James Comey gets creepy with Taylor Swift.
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Dana Perino
Happy birthday, grandpa.
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Jesse Waters
This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason.
- [37:31]
Harold Ford Jr.
In the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper.
- [37:34]
Jesse Waters
Into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests.
- [37:37]
Katie Pavlich
Listen and follow now@fox newspodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts.
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Greg Gutfeld
Isn't it nifty? James Comey is a swifty.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Taylor Swift and I go way back.
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Katie Pavlich
I'm in a family's swifty group chat.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I know all her music, and I.
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Katie Pavlich
Listen to it in my headphones when.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I cut the grass.
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Katie Pavlich
Taylor Swift has grown up with my family.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you, Taylor Swift. Keep the faith, Dana.
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Greg Gutfeld
He's grown up with Taylor Swift. If you got something like that, wouldn't you turn it over to Fox Security?
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Dana Perino
No, I think. I think that Taylor Swift has put out, given it to her security that this is stalking. This is stalking. Weird.
- [38:24]
Greg Gutfeld
Yes. You know, Harold, this guy ran the FBI. How absurd is that? This guy. I mean, it's scary to think this guy. This guy looks like James Comey. And I love when it comes to.
- [38:39]
Harold Ford Jr.
Figuring out how to connect with. With this kind of generation on social media. I don't know. I mean, I don't. This is not my thing. I'm more of a Stevie wonderful Prince kind of guy. So I can't figure this out. I guess he's trying to connect and it probably didn't work.
- [38:54]
Jesse Waters
Probably.
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Kat Timpf
I guess with all the Russiagate stuff coming out, he's gonna try and plead insanity with this video as evidence in court. I don't know, but my skin was crawling watching that for the second time today. Never want to see it again if you're gonna do.
- [39:14]
Greg Gutfeld
I mean, he's up against the wall. Like, where is he? He's wearing a coat and tie to do this. Jesse, do you think this is.
- [39:23]
Jesse Waters
I think he's straight. I don't know.
- [39:24]
Greg Gutfeld
No, I wasn't saying.
- [39:26]
Jesse Waters
Oh, I thought that's what you said. I don't care if he's straight or not either. But from the seashells to this, and then, I don't know. He seems like tampon a little bit to me. I swear, this guy drinks milkshakes from straws. I would bet a thousand dollars.
- [39:40]
Harold Ford Jr.
You should send him a book. You got me.
- [39:42]
Jesse Waters
I don't drink milkshakes. That was a trick question.
- [39:44]
Greg Gutfeld
Here's my theory. Like Eric Swalwell, there's a. There's a lot of loneliness going on. Lack of friendship. People aren't talking people out of doing pathetic things.
- [39:53]
Jesse Waters
Right.
- [39:53]
Greg Gutfeld
Like people singing in public and shit like that. You can't stop people.
- [39:57]
Jesse Waters
Like. Like. Like Newsoms.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yes, exactly. All right. He's not talking to the wife. All right, one more thing's up next. What you want to do is save.
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Katie Pavlich
Hundreds from the FOX News Podcasts network.
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Dana Perino
Hey, there, it's me, Kennedy. Make sure to check out my podcast, Kennedy Saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. It's time for one more thing. I had a fairly boring weekend, except for this.
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Donald Trump
And is that.
- [40:38]
Jesse Waters
Is that Dana Perino from the Five? Dana, get your out here. Let's go.
- [40:52]
Dana Perino
Yes. Dirk Smedley, thank you so much for having me up. And I feel really bad for the guy that I beat because he today, he cannot believe it. He cannot believe it. And today, the podcast promo, Yemesi Egba Wole. It was on and she is. Greg, you're next.
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Greg Gutfeld
All right, tonight we got a great show. Kat, Tim, Dr. Drew, KT McFarlane and Tyrus. Let's do this. Greg's sexy gorilla news. Your mouth will be agape when you take a look at this ape.
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Jesse Waters
Roll it.
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Greg Gutfeld
This is Bruno. Bruno is a western lowland gorilla. My kind of gorilla. He lives at the Fort Worth Zoo. I'd Uber there if I were you. Gorillas don't typically bathe in water. They're too. Instead, they groom themselves to stay clean. Jesse does the same thing. But they often use water to cool off on those hot summer days. And boy, is it hot at the Fort Worth Zoo.
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Jesse Waters
That is one clown.
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Dana Perino
All right, Jesse, I want to highlight.
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Jesse Waters
The New Jersey Golf Foundation. This is a great organization. It focuses on three core pillars, youth, military and special needs. It's led by PGA pros, and the foundation provides access to people to the game of golf from all stripes. So we had a great event today at Balta Straw in New Jersey. Job well done, gentlemen.
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Greg Gutfeld
You're the Gandhi of golf.
- [42:14]
Jesse Waters
Thank you, Greg. Not sure what that means. Also tonight, Marco Rubio on Jesse Waters prime time. Oh.
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Dana Perino
All right.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Sticking with golf, Scotty scheffer hit this 82 foot. What's his shot here? Win this whole thing. I know what it is. What a heck of a shot. Used to secure his win the BMW championship. Five wins this season two seasons in a row. The only, only other guy that did that three or four times more. Tiger Woods.
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Greg Gutfeld
Wow. That's tv.
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Katie Pavlich
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