High-Stakes Xi Summit

Summary

The Five – "High-Stakes Xi Summit"

FOX News Podcasts | May 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this dynamic episode of "The Five," the panel delves into President Trump’s pivotal summit with China’s President Xi Jinping, a meeting characterized by enormous economic, geopolitical, and technological stakes. The discussion moves through U.S.-China trade tensions, AI competition, the ongoing Iran crisis, and shifts in American political and urban landscapes. The cast, featuring Greg Gutfeld, Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, and Jillian Turner, blend sharp political analysis with satirical commentary—offering listeners a whirlwind tour of today’s realignments and controversies.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Trump-Xi Summit: Showmanship and Substance

[00:00–04:03]

• Chinese Red Carpet: Trump arrives in Beijing to a heavily staged welcome, with Chinese children waving flags—interpreted as savvy flattery toward Trump’s need for pageantry

  “The Chinese obviously knows how Donald Trump likes to be greeted. He wants a parade. He likes the fanfare. It puts him in a good mood.”
  —Jessica Tarlov, [05:53]

• Accompanying CEOs: Tech industry giants (Elon Musk, “Tim Apple,” Jensen Huang) attend, signaling the summit’s economic and technological focus.
• Key Issues:
  • Trade: The panel agrees massive business deals (Boeing, agriculture, microchips) are on the table; U.S. maintains a 50% tariff on Chinese goods.
  • Military/Diplomatic Leverage: U.S. strength cited in nuclear and naval power, alliances, and arms sales to Taiwan.
  • Iran Blockade: Panelists note the U.S. controls critical straits, with Trump’s administration citing “Iran is very much under control.”

    “We’re either going to make a deal or they’re going to be decimated. One way or the other, we win.”
    —Jesse Watters, [00:57]

2. Strategic Competition: Tariffs, Trade, and AI

[04:03–07:25]

• Tariff Disputes: Trump’s global tariffs weigh on U.S.–China trade; business and farm sectors push for tariff reductions to open up markets.
  • Farmers face “record high bankruptcies” if they can’t regain access to China’s soybean market.
• Artificial Intelligence Arms Race:

  “Whoever wins the AI race to the top gets to control…not to be dramatic, but the future of humanity.”
  —Jillian Turner, [05:20]

  • CEOs’ presence—especially Jensen Huang (Nvidia)—underscores fierce competition for AI and microchip supremacy.
  • Skepticism exists on collaboration due to espionage concerns.

3. Espionage, U.S. Policy, and Beijing’s Ascent

[08:46–11:04]

• China’s Spying Operations:
  • Discussion of well-known espionage cases (Swalwell/Fang Fang, Arcadia mayor, Feinstein’s driver, Roy Singham).
  • Critique of past U.S. trade policies and failures to anticipate China’s ambitions:

    “When you wonder on the Democratic side, hey, how come we don’t have the blue collars anymore? The blue collars you have speak Mandarin.”
    —Greg Gutfeld, [09:19]

  • Warning that U.S. must “wise up” to China’s methods to secure the future.

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4. 2026 Midterms: Obama’s Help, Dem Troubles, and Identity Politics

[11:38–19:46]

• Obama Campaigns in Texas: Skeptical debate about Obama’s ability to deliver votes for down-ballot candidates.
• Dem Candidates’ Credentials Questioned:
  • Abdul El Sayed (MI) called out for “Dr.” title with limited patient experience.
  • Satirical takes on “stolen valor” in Democratic political branding.

    “What is it with Dems and false credentials? No wonder they hate voter ID – they can never provide proof of who they are.”
    —Paul Morrow, [17:43]

• GOP Advantage:
  • Lower Democratic popularity; GOP as “underdogs.” Trump’s perceived resilience despite adversities.
  • Gas prices, inflation, and “weirdness” in Democratic culture critiqued by Jesse Watters, who lampoons party strategy and base.
• Polls Debated:
  • Both sides cherry-pick polling data, with Jessica Tarlov highlighting Trump’s dismal economic rating but Jesse Watters dismissing them as unreliable.

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5. Local Politics: LA Mayoral Race and Urban Policy

[23:12–30:56]

• Spencer Pratt vs. Karen Bass: Pratt’s outsider campaign surges as homelessness, crime, and addiction dominate LA concerns.
• Policy Satire:
  • Pointed criticism of Karen Bass’ initiative to supply dental care for meth addicts.

    “If meth heads want better teeth, here’s a tip: Don’t do meth. …giving money to meth heads for new teeth while they’re still doing meth, that’s like basically giving a liver transplant to an active alcoholic.”
    —Paul Morrow, [24:26]

• Outsider vs. Insider Dynamic:
  • Audience and panel question the value of political “experience” and demand real change—citing other Democratic mayors’ successes.
  • Jessica Tarlov: Democrats must learn, “acknowledge people’s concerns,” and shift policies to regain trust.

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6. Society, Culture, and Technology Critiques

a) AI Anxiety on Campus

[31:06–36:43]

• Florida grads boo commencement speaker’s praise of AI.
• Panel argues:
  • Tech Progress: AI likened to the calculator—ultimate productivity tool with inevitable disruption.

    “AI is going to create as many jobs as it gets rid of. …It skips four or five steps to finding an answer. That’s all it’s doing…”
    —Greg Gutfeld, [31:58]

  • Uncertainty Ahead: Risks in creative fields, white-collar jobs, and the “death of Hollywood.”
  • Empathy for Young Workers: Panel notes pain for disrupted job markets—especially now that white-collar sectors feel the squeeze.
  • Humor about AI replacing lawyers and screenwriters.

b) Subscription Fatigue Satire

[37:16–38:50]

• Americans spend ~$69/month on average; fatigue complaints mocked as trivial first-world problems.
  • Panel blasts NYT coverage for ignoring more pressing, non-voluntary financial burdens.

  “If you think subscriptions are a hassle, then cancel them.”
  —Paul Morrow, [37:41]

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7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “China is still our number one trade partner, though, so there are going to be big business deals announced with Boeing and agriculture. The problem is the chips we make need their minerals.”
  —Jesse Watters, [02:17]
• “The world leaders that get along with him all know they call him daddy or whatever you got to do to get through it.”
  —Jessica Tarlov, on Trump’s demand for flattery, [05:53]
• “If we don’t recalibrate that, we’re all going to be speaking Mandarin. And that’s what’s happening here.”
  —Greg Gutfeld, [10:49]
• “We have 10 million people came waltzing across the border on your watch, pal. …I can’t tell you how countercultural that is for law enforcement.”
  —Paul Morrow, on immigration and accountability, [20:37]
• “The next Spielberg is a kid in his room with his laptop… Goodbye, Hollywood.”
  —Paul Morrow, on AI’s potential in filmmaking, [36:13]

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Major Segment Timestamps

• Trump in China: The Summit & CEO Delegation – [00:00–04:03]
• Tariffs, AI Race, and U.S.-China Relations – [04:03–09:19]
• Chinese Espionage & U.S. Weakness – [09:19–11:04]
• The Obama Factor and Midterms – [11:38–16:42]
• Dems and “Stolen Valor” – [17:08–19:10]
• LA Mayoral Race Satire – [23:12–30:56]
• AI and Commencement Booing – [31:06–36:43]
• Subscription Fatigue – [37:16–38:50]

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Tone and Atmosphere

The Five’s trademark blend of acerbic wit, political irreverence, and satirical banter runs throughout. Jesse Watters and Greg Gutfeld dominate with punchlines and riffing, while Jessica Tarlov and Jillian Turner push back with policy and poll-based counterarguments. The conversation is fast-moving, combative, and relentlessly topical, skewering both political camps, tech industry developments, and urban policy mishaps.

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Takeaways

• The U.S.–China relationship is entering a transformative, high-stakes phase—marked by open competition in trade, AI, and global influence.
• Trump leverages his theatrical, dealmaker persona abroad, yet faces both domestic opposition and pressure to deliver economic relief to U.S. industries and states.
• Panels spotlight the ongoing political and cultural divides, highlighting voter fatigue with elites, the specter of foreign espionage, and growing concern about disruptive technology.
• Urban political shifts (LA, San Francisco) and calls for practical solutions resonate as Americans grapple with homelessness and crime.
• Technology debates—AI's creative destruction—are arriving at the center of both economic anxiety and media discussions.

Listeners are left with no illusions: the stakes are high, the future is uncertain, and political theater remains alive and well—on the world stage and at home.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

Right now.

[Paul Morrow]

Hi, I'm greg gutfeld, along with paul morrow, jessica tarloff, jesse waters, and jillian turner. The five. The dawn enters the dragon. President Trump touching down in China for his high stakes talks with President Xi.

[Jillian Turner]

Good job.

[Paul Morrow]

Thank you. Beijing rolling out the communist red carpet with hundreds of Chinese kids waving flags to cheer him on. Is that adorable? Tagging along with the president is a dream team of tech CEOs like Elon Musk and Tim Apple. So the big question, does Trump still have that great relationship with Xi? I have a great relationship with President

[Jesse Waters]

Xi and I think it's going to remain that way. We have a lot of things to discuss.

[Paul Morrow]

I wouldn't say Iran is one of

[Jesse Waters]

them, to be honest with you, because

[Paul Morrow]

we have Iran very much under control.

[Jesse Waters]

We're either going to make a deal or they're going to be decimated. One way or the other, we win.

[Paul Morrow]

But we're going to be talking about,

[Jesse Waters]

we're going to be talking with President Xi about a lot of different things. I would say more than anything else

[Paul Morrow]

will be trade back home. The Democratic Party that's always getting honey potted by Chinese spies, whether it's Swalwell and Fang Fang or that California mayor who just admitted to being an agent for China, they're suddenly, they're trying to sell America on the idea that Trump is bowing to Beijing. We all ought to fear what Donald Trump may concede to China just so

[Greg Gutfeld]

he can claim a headline.

[Paul Morrow]

Trump has fantasized about $1 trillion in Chinese investments in America. This is Trump empowering Xi's made in China ambitions, selling out American manufacturers and workers, giving CCP businesses an edge and undermining America, saying, China, you come here. All right, Jesse. You know, critics always portray Trump as some kind of unstable gunslinger throwing down against world powers, but basically, he's kind of like a salesman for free markets. He shows up there with these shiny baubles of billionaires and saying, why did you join us? Things could be, the water is warm. He always goes in there as a, not as a competitor, but a collaborator.

[Jesse Waters]

He's going in there representing the world's biggest economy, strongest military, biggest energy exporter, world's reserve currency. This is not an equal thing. China and the United States, we have a lot more nukes, we have a lot more carriers. We just beat them to the moon. We just kicked them out of the Panama Canal and we just wiped out two of their black market gas stations and showed that we can if we want to, embargo them, if they get frisky with Taiwan because we control the straits in the South China Sea and in the Middle East. And while we've been in Iran, we've been doing war games with all of our Pacific allies. And we sold 11 billion in weapons to Taiwan. And we have another $25 billion arms package waiting on the president's desk. He doesn't want to sign it there. It's too humiliating for the Chinese. So he'll wait. China is still our number one trade partner, though, so there are going to be big business deals announced with Boeing and agriculture. The problem is the chips we make need their minerals. So we're on a little bit of a smash and grab mineral run all over the world, which has been fun to watch. We still have about a 50% tariff rate on the Chinese. But Trump has cultivated a very good relationship with Xi Jinping over the last eight or so years. Doesn't mean he's not going to hit him with charges against hacking and spying and dumping. You know, Greg, they love the dump. Dumping goods all over the world because their consumers don't buy. And the quarantine, along with our chip controls, are really starting to show cracks in the Chinese economy. So the test is, how long is China willing to wait until they call the gay ayatollah and say, you got to open up the Strait? I think she's watching Trump. How long is Trump willing to maintain the blockade on Iran? So right now, it's a test of wills, and I think the president is in a good place.

[Paul Morrow]

All right, Gillian, before the show, you said to me this might be the most important summit I do between foreign powers in the history of this country. What is the deep state telling you to say?

[Jillian Turner]

I believe. I believe I called it high stakes. Oh, look, there it is in the lower third. Yes, it is a high stakes summit. It is. But I think it's actually very high stakes for reasons that people are not talking about very much, which is obviously there's a lot of trade stuff at stake here. There's still the remnants of this tariff war going on. You mentioned the president still has this 10% global universal tariff on everything coming in from China on top of the tariffs that he already has implemented in his first year. Some of the CEOs going with the president are hoping they can do something about that while they're there. Obviously, the war with Iran is important. Getting the Strait of Hormuz opened up again is something that China and the US Care very deeply about more than any other country in the world. There's Taiwan. There's all this stuff, but it's really what matters here, and we don't know that they're even going to talk about it, is artificial intelligence. Because these are the two world powers that are in competition to dominate the future. Right. And whoever wins the AI race to the top gets to control, in large part, you know, not to be dramatic, but the future of.

[Paul Morrow]

You're right, humanity.

[Jillian Turner]

And you are right. You know, I think that's another good reason to have these CEOs there. Some of these folks are leading that charge on behalf of the United States. If there are people in the sort of AI expertise world seem to disagree about whether the US And China could collaborate in this space. But maybe on the sidelines, you know, they'll hash out some of the possibilities. It's good for all of us if they can.

[Paul Morrow]

Jessica, what say you? You were mentioning before the show started how presidential Trump looked there.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I didn't know you could hear me when I was talking about that. Called my mom. I was like, he looks good today. Look at him almighty on that red carpet with the Chinese kids. The Chinese obviously knows how Donald Trump likes to be greeted. He wants a parade. He likes the fanfare. It puts him in a good mood. The world leaders that get along with him all know they call him daddy or whatever you got to do to get through it. So the Chinese definitely got the memo on that. I think Gillian's point on AI is super important, all this. I don't really know how you collaborate with the Chinese when all they want to do is steal all of our secrets. But obviously he brought these CEOs there for a reason. I want to talk about one of them in particular, the Nvidia CEO, because it was rumored that he wasn't going to come. And then they picked him up in Alaska on a Jensen, Jensen Huang. And that's all about the chips. So the Biden administration was against selling our high level chips to the Chinese. They said it was a national security threat. President Trump reversed that position and a lot of people disagree with that. And not only did Jensen Huang lobby for that, he wants a Chinese Trump buy even more of his chips. So he's there to make a deal. Donald Trump is there to make a deal on that, perhaps. But also several other points on the tariffs. He needs to sell more soybeans. Farmers are getting crushed in America right now. We have record high bankruptcies. They're saying we, we can't stay in business unless we can sell to the Chinese again at the levels from before the tariffs. It was a Lot more before that.

[Jillian Turner]

And then it was beans, beef. Sorry to interrupt. Beans, beef.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Later on.

[Jillian Turner]

And Boeing. I just read an. I went to air that the three Danes came back from the prep meeting and he said, this is the task.

[Paul Morrow]

All right. This is getting. No, it's not beans and chips.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I feel like she added the beef. And I'm sorry to jump in. You can't also forget the fact that last week the Iranian foreign minister, who's supposed to be negotiating this deal with us, went to China and talked to them about the state of the conflict. Politico is reporting that apparently the Chinese are want the Iranians to make a deal. We'll see if that comes to fruition. But we are constantly talking about how bad the Iranians handwrite is and what an advantage we have and that the strait is completely closed and we're in complete control of it. And then Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman come out and they're reporting that Iran's restored 30 of 33 missile sites along the Strait of Hormuz. They're partially or fully operational. We saw the piece in the Atlantic where it might have been a. From J.D. vance. His team saying that they're concerned about our stockpiles versus the Iranian stockpiles and whether we would be able to help with a Taiwan want. We are not. Why do you laugh?

[Jesse Waters]

These are just deep state leaks from JD Vance case scenarios that you guys have been doing for decades. Just.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Okay, all right.

[Paul Morrow]

Can I bring Paul into this? We got to get out of this incredibly excruciating segment.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Where would you rather be sitting? Where we are. Where Iran is. Right?

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Right. So let's just draw back. Let's also draw back relative to this. I want to discuss what Schumer said. First of all, let's do a little quick history. 2000 per capita income for the Chinese under $1000 per person in rural areas in the low hundreds. And then our chattering classes in the foreign policy intelligentsia led by Bill Clinton said, hey, I got a great idea. You know how they'll liberalize? Let's give them permanent most favored nation status. Not every year renewed. They got it. And then let's put them in the World Trade Organization.

[Jesse Waters]

Boom.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Overnight, what happened? Our entire manufacturing base went to Fujian province. So when you wonder on the Democratic side, hey, how come we don't have the blue collars anymore? The BL collars you have speak Mandarin. All right, so that whole thing went away. And the Chinese sitting there saying, I can't believe we pulled this off. Did the Next thing, which was quite smart. And I would have done the same thing if I'm sitting where they are, which is, hey, while they're preoccupied with the war on terror, let's flood the place with spies, particularly economic spies. And they did their homework. They knew what they were getting into with Swalwell. We now know the facts on that guy. So float a good looking woman by him, we're going to have him in the bag. That one worked. And let's go down the line. You got this Arcadia mayor, right. You got Feinstein's driver was a spy. You got this one. That was the Como liaison to the Asian community linked to the prc. Kathy Hochul, Governor here. Her DEI officer, a Chinese spy, Roy Singham. He's in Shanghai. He works for them against us. He's an American center. You got Hunter Biden, of course, the big guy who said, oh, I'm going to work with the FN spy chief of China. They know where our soft underbelly is. And so at the same time, they took all of our manufacturing. They said, look around. Who would have used idiots out there? Oh, there they are. We're going to get them on the left. And they got them. And right now, all of that stuff went over there. And that's why. Where the hell am I? Over here. Listen to me, folks. We're losing, all right? You'd rather be sitting where we are right now, but we're losing and we need to wise up. If not for now, for your kids, all right? Because this is about the future. There's a reason that Apple and all these tech guys are over there. Because we don't have access to their markets. But we gave them everything under the sun. And if we don't recalibrate that, we're all going to be speaking Mandarin. And that's what's happening here.

[Paul Morrow]

Thank God. I subscribe to Duolingo. All right, coming up next, Barack Obama hitting the town with Talofrico for a little text mess.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So what I'm thinking is, got to get the street taco. I need maybe like a holy moly.

[Jesse Waters]

36 hours in the mystery. So. Now the sky is open.

[Jillian Turner]

Welcome back. Former president Barack Obama lending his star power to Texas Senate candidate James Talarico. This in their 30 year quest to flip Texas Blue. The the duo campaigned at the taco joint in Austin. Take a quick listen.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Hey, people.

[Jesse Waters]

I hear the tacos here are okay. They're amazing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They're not bad. That's the word on the street. Lilia, this is your spot. This is your joint. So what I'm thinking is got to get the street taco. I need maybe like a holy moly.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, breakfast tacos. Potato, egg and cheese.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's right.

[Paul Morrow]

I come here a lot.

[Jillian Turner]

Well, while Obama is obviously popular, the polls say his party is not. Right now, confident Democrats keep predicting a midterms blowout. CNN's data guy, though, just gave a reality check.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Listen, I think this poll serves as

[Paul Morrow]

a big time reality check for Democrats. And that is it ain't over yet.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Especially with the redistricting.

[Paul Morrow]

When we look ahead to the 2026 race for Congress, you would have thought that the Democrats. Lee, would expand on the generic congressional ballot.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It didn't happen. It is within the margin of error. So despite all of the talk about Donald Trump's unpopularity, the fact is Republicans

[Jesse Waters]

very much remain in the game when

[Greg Gutfeld]

it comes to the congressional midterms.

[Jillian Turner]

Some of the Dem candidates aren't doing themselves any favors. Far left Michigan Senate front runner Abdul El Sayed says he's getting called out now in Politico for calling himself a physician. But turns out he has very little history treating patients. Only, if I read the stuff correctly, about four weeks of an internship somewhere. So let's start. Let's pick up there, Jesse. This guy, El Sayed, this move to call yourself a doctor. We have seen people try and kind of like, fudge this.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, I used to call myself Dr. Feelgood in college, but just a nickname, didn't really matter. Not giving any medical advice. I do have to say something about Jessica. I saw her in the green room the other day and she was crying and I said, what's wrong? And I tried to console her and she said, jesse, the Democrats lost the redistricting war. We're going to lose 12 House seats.

[Jessica Tarloff]

That's not how it happened.

[Jesse Waters]

I said, here, take my pocket hanky. And she dabbed her eyes and she goes, the only way we're going to win elections now is if we steal them. And I said, it's okay. You guys are very good at that. But that's the reality. 12 seats. And if you look at the generic congressional ballot, it's too close for comfort. You guys can't raise any cash. The DNC's broken. Trump has a massive war chest. And I get it. You know, Trump is now taking so many issues off the table because he's been successful. No one's talking about crime, culture, the border, because those aren't issues anymore. There is the only issue, the trans thing, we don't even talk about it anymore. You guys lost that big time on the economy. Yes, gas prices are high because there's a little excursion. The Iranians shut down the strait. But he's not going to get pressured into a bad deal and in the meantime that will hurt Republicans. He's not on the ballot. So he's looking for the long term interest of the United States. The reason you guys aren't getting any traction on the economy is because gas prices were higher for much longer under Biden and you ran up the inflation rate to 9% and said it was a good thing. So stop. You guys made the country weird. You had guys with little nails trans running all over the White House chasing Binder while Biden did. Biden was asleep in his suit. You guys got to do what you need to do. Run a Nazi oyster farm or run a pastor who says God is gay, I don't care. Run a woman that dumped a scalding hot thing of potatoes on her husband's head. Whatever you need to do. We're the underdog. We like to run like that.

[Jillian Turner]

But yet, Jessica, I believe that Democrats and Republicans are polling essentially the same on the economy. You know, the president doesn't have the leg up that he had planned to have at this moment because of the.

[Jessica Tarloff]

No more. Absolutely not. Listen to James Blair who's in charge of the midterm strategy and he does not want to talk about the economy. They're all now at least admitting that gas prices are up. That's a little more expensive when you go to the supermarket. But all of that will be fine in time. It'll be great by when we get to November. And I'm actually surprised that we had a polling segment like the set up there that I didn't even have to like annoy people by being like, I would love to talk about that poll because even in that CNN pol, Trump has 70% disapproval on the economy. Two thirds say the country is going in the wrong direction. And there was also the Atlas intel poll that had Democrats up 15 points. Obviously that is too much. But you have a 3.8% inflation report. Now the wages, the inflation is outpacing your paycheck, which you always throw in my face. You're like, with the paychecks. Well, now it doesn't matter what you're earning. Democrats are favored on education, health care, employment, inflation, trade, taxes, even crime. Can you believe that?

[Paul Morrow]

I don't believe that.

[Jillian Turner]

No.

[Jesse Waters]

I don't believe that. We release criminals all over the street anyway.

[Jessica Tarloff]

There's a Harry Anton clip for Everything. Check out the one. I'm sorry, my voice is like worse than usual. You like really upset me with that crying thing.

[Jillian Turner]

Greg, what do you think about this young Dem James taylorico bringing in Barack Obama? I'm not a political strategist but it strikes me as a risky move cuz the guy's got a lot of star power. It doesn't always translate to Talarico. Does former President Obama?

[Jesse Waters]

Who's that?

[Jillian Turner]

The star power doesn't always translate to people he endorses like Kamala Harris. Also, he tends to outshine people like he did there in line at the taco joint.

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah, neither of them know what a street taco is or else they wouldn't have one.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Look it up people.

[Paul Morrow]

Look, I am actually going to agree with Jessica. I am tired of Harry Enton. First of all, we aren't babies where we could be abruptly entranced by a new shiny object. And in this case it's always the every day it's a shockback poll and one provides a bath of dopamine for Jessica, the next day a shower of serotonin for Jesse. Meanwhile, Harry Entin is like going to bed on a pile of money surrounded by cocaine and call girls. It's all a scam.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Don't.

[Paul Morrow]

Don't listen to it. You never know how things are going to turn out because Republicans don't talk about how they vote. That's how Trump surprised everybody. I want to talk about Abdul El said he you can keep your doctor. By the way, that's Obama said that he claims he's a doctor, but he isn't a doctor. Who does he think he is? Jillian? Dr. Jill, what is it with Dems and false credentials? You know, no wonder they hate voter ID because they can never provide any proof of who they claim they really are. Whether it's their social programs, their daycare centers, their asylum seekers, their war heroes, their sentient presidents events. Nothing is ever what they say it is. They create phony charities and lofty titles for the people who run them. What happened to the money for the fires from the giant benefit that was to happen? $100 million. Illegals become undocumented. Abortion becomes birth control. Prisons become carceral oppression. If the Dems were accurately labeled, no one would go near them. So I. Is it. I don't. We don't have a lot of this stolen valor on the Republican side. We can't afford it. People find out about it. But in this case, this guy was probably telling everybody a doctor and they were fine. And you're right. Trump's numbers aren't great, but he's got an ally in the Democrats.

[Jillian Turner]

I just want to say no, can I?

[Paul Morrow]

I'm not done yet.

[Jillian Turner]

I don't want to.

[Paul Morrow]

Stop pointing your finger at Paul. He did nothing to you. You know what Trump is like right now? It's like having a bad back. Okay. And I got a bad back. But then you look over at this guy, he's got leprosy. That guy is the Democrats. So it's like as long as the Democrats are so profoundly unpopular, Trump could pretty much do anything because the Democrats have no way up. They have no way out. Back to you, Gillian.

[Jillian Turner]

No. Are you sure you're done?

[Paul Morrow]

No, I could keep going.

[Jesse Waters]

That was such a great point. I want to say I have not inflated my credentials.

[Paul Morrow]

No.

[Jesse Waters]

I am completely unqualified. I have a bachelor's degree.

[Jillian Turner]

That's it.

[Paul Morrow]

From where we think about their Dr. Waltz was a war. It is just like insane.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Just because it's online doesn't mean it's a bad.

[Jessica Tarloff]

You remember Trump University, right? And having to pay those kids back or the fake charity stuff like my voice is going to go again and it's not. I'm not going to be able to finish this, but it's ok.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I wish you had stopped them because I was going to make the same point.

[Jillian Turner]

Nobody can stop.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I know. Nobody can put my glasses on because I can't read my own. Right? The bottom line is this. From where I sit, historically, Trump is up, up against a headwind. As we all know, the midterms generally goes against the party that's in power. That's just because of delayed gratification. No longer be embedded in our society. Right. Everybody wants everything and they want it yesterday. So that's the headwind. But as Trump, as Greg said, Trump, same thing as Greg just said. Realistically, the best ally Trump has are his adversaries. Because of the stuff that the left continues to bang the gong on. You're still getting dei. Virginia Spanberger said, I'm going to be a moderate. She comes in, she's left the Karl Marx. You get synagogue protests where people can't even go into worship. You've got everybody terrified of the squad and you got all of this fraud stuff going on. And now Mayorkas comes out and says, oh, yeah, oops on the border. Do you see this thing? Mayorkas comes out now and says, oh, yeah? Well, maybe we kind of blew that. 10 million people came waltzing across the border on your watch, pal. And you're the One who said, oh, those people, my own people were whipping Haitian migrants. And he knew it wasn't false. And he comes out and says that. I can't tell you how countercultural that is for law enforcement. And I'll just end with this because we're out of time if it goes the way some people are prognosticating. That is to say that the Dems get at least the House and the Senate and they play these impeachment games. Everything else, I'm telling you right now, what it ensures is a blowout in 2028 for the Republicans. You'll end up with a Republican everything across the board, because the same dynamic is going to be in place two years later and everybody's okay, come on, deliver. And there's nobody to deliver. Who is the leader of the Democratic Party right now? Who's the biggest name? Hasan Piker. Who's the big name?

[Jillian Turner]

Barack Obama, maybe.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Barack Obama, he's like, you know, walking around in Bermuda shorts on that island that he's on in Martha's vineyard. He has 10 houses and everything else, that guy. A lot of people right now that came into the electorate, they don't really know who he. You and I know who he is. But the people that voted for Mamdani, to me, I think that those people see him as real og.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Well, Obama and Mamdani were campaigning together.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I mean, notice and notice. Obama came to him to kiss the ring because Mamdani is arguing.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Obama wants Donnie to.

[Jillian Turner]

He also went to Austin or whatever to see Talarika.

[Paul Morrow]

He wants to help.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He wants to be relevant. But the guy that he went to when he tried to get back on the playing field was mom Donnie.

[Jillian Turner]

Also, the segment is way over thanks to Greg, so we're going to have to wrap it up now. But coming up next, LA Mayor Karen Vath. I will pay for that. She may have just given Spencer Brett an unexpected expected boots. Stick with us.

[Jesse Waters]

No more pooping in the street. No more living on the street, no more drugs next to kids. I'm the guy saying no more butts with poop coming out of him in front of young ladies trying to pick people up at lax.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He'd be a great guest for you, Greg. This guy here, Spencer Pratt, telling it like it is, as a new poll shows him surging into second place in the race for LA mayor, which is not going to be happy news for his opponent, current Mayor Karen Bass, recently went after his qualifications.

[Jesse Waters]

What do you think Spencer Pratt would be like as mayor? I. I can't even Imagine. I don't think I understand.

[Jessica Tarloff]

He has a degree in political science,

[Jesse Waters]

but he does not have a background or knowledge in how our government works.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But if only the rest of us had Karen Bass expertise on how to drive your city into the ground. Like her taxpayer funded idea for helping meth heads get better teeth.

[Jesse Waters]

How many people who are unhoused that you meet have no teeth at all? They don't have teeth. Why? Because meth rots your teeth. You can't succeed without teeth. So there needs to be to be comprehensive health care provided to people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Greg, you can't succeed without teeth. Do you disagree?

[Paul Morrow]

She apparently doesn't go to pornhub. If meth heads want better teeth, here's a tip. Don't do meth. Now if you give money to meth heads for new teeth while they're still doing meth, that's like basically giving a liver transplant to an active alcoholic. It's a waste of money. This is the exact. It's almost like the, the way the left looked at the border. Open borders and free stuff. No, you can't have one and the other you have destruction. So likewise, you can't assist an addict until they are compelled to get clean. And only Pratt is offering that a mandatory path to getting clean. You know, she also slams Pratt for not having government experience, which is like OJ Slamming someone for never getting married. I mean his, her example of governance is an argument against governance. She could not have progressed from a Castro loving radical to her position of a rent seeking grifter if it wasn't for a system that allowed for such corruption. And that's a system of government. It's the argument for Pratt that you need an outsider there because this is the insider. Lastly, you know someone is bad when the less you see of them, the better it is for them. Of course she immediately dropped out of the debate after the last debate because she knew, she. She knew that if she were up against him again, it would be a disaster. This was the same strategy for Joe Biden for a long, long time. Then Kamala Harris until she had to get out in front of somebody. She is hiding from Spidey. So then he, the other lady dropped out and now there's basically no debate. So I would think that what Spidey should do is hold the debate him on the set with two cardboard stands cut out approach, the cutout approach and maybe have recordings of them previous answers because you know what, they just want to see him.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, you know, it's a little bit what Jesse said In the earlier block, which is Republicans are good as underdogs, right? Because he's just in there taking no prisoners as he's got nothing to lose. He came out of nowhere. Jessica, should meth heads have a better dental plan?

[Jessica Tarloff]

I'm not sure about that, but I do think that Mayor Bass would be wise to say Spencer's bringing up some things that really matter to people. And I don't want to put the people of L. A in a position where they feel like they have to take a flyer on this guy without the experience that you need someone who's a Republican. I mean, these are. It's a Democratic town, right? People don't want to vote for a Republican, but they do want to feel that their concerns are being acknowledged. So I think that she would be wise to do that. You know, his ads, some of them go a little far for me in the AI Department, like, you know, turning them into the joker and all of that. But I have my sister lives in Los Angeles, tons of friends out there. Everyone has spoken about homelessness problems, crime problems, you know, people near preschools, prostitution rings, etc. Those are real concerns. And the roadmap is also right in front of you. In San Francisco, Dan Lurie just became the most popular mayor in America with a 74% approval rating. He has cleaned up the streets. He has pushed homeless people into treatment, off the streets if that's what needs to happen. Matt Mahan has also done that in San Jose. So there are Democrats that are being smart about this, and she should say, I can learn from my mistakes. Mishandled this. Put Spencer Pratt, if you want, in charge of the rebuild of the Palisade. Say you can get out of the Bel Air Hotel, Spencer, and you can go home to his house.

[Paul Morrow]

It burned down.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Well, he also did a whole ad

[Paul Morrow]

in front of the hotel. He.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I'm not. You shouldn't film an ad in front of a TR Trailer and say, I live

[Jesse Waters]

your city burn down while you're in Africa. Jessica, she was in Africa. There was no water in the reservoir. And you're mad about a campaign ad.

[Jessica Tarloff]

And do you want to re litigate how many hydrants were full of this or whose fault it actually was? I have not defended Mayor Bass on what.

[Jesse Waters]

Just sounded like you did. You just said, you know what? It's a Democrat town, by the way. It's not a Republican. He's running as an independent, and he just smoked women at the debate so badly, they surrendered. All right, you can't look at this woman who Wants to take millions of taxpayer dollars and give it to a celebrity dentist's nonprofit in Brentwood so we could give meth addicts free veneers. How can you think that's a good idea? What are the meth addicts like, Uber from the homeless encampment to some ritzy little place to sit next to some

[Jessica Tarloff]

supermodel who's also from reality?

[Jesse Waters]

This doesn't even make any sense to

[Jessica Tarloff]

Spencer Pratt and I, again, again, some of the things that he's saying I completely agree with, and they're real problems. But it's like Donald Trump is even a better choice than Spencer Pratt is a good choice.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay, I don't even know what that means, but you're giving free teeth to homeless people while Pratt hasn't even got a permit to rebuild his house. Well, yeah, you're making my case. You're getting free boobs to illegal aliens.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Let's get jelly in there.

[Jesse Waters]

Free teeth to homeless meth heads.

[Jillian Turner]

I'm not.

[Jesse Waters]

And you want to vote for Karen Bass again?

[Jessica Tarloff]

I vote here.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, but you're saying to support her because it's a Democrat city. The Democrats are wrecking the city.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay, all right, listen.

[Jillian Turner]

I will close us up on the reality check that the city. I mean, for all the hope that you have, Jesse, like, they haven't. It's been since 1997 that they have that they last elected a Democratic mayor.

[Jesse Waters]

And look at it.

[Jillian Turner]

And it's trash.

[Jesse Waters]

I know, but it's a big heaping pile of trash. It's so bad. There's like more foreign born people than American born there. Now, the reason I bring it up over ice. You lost 24 billion in homeless money, and you're giving free boobs and teeth to people who don't deserve it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Plus, the fraud didn't happen.

[Jillian Turner]

That didn't happen yesterday. Right. And people have elected the leadership that they've elected. I don't think people.

[Jesse Waters]

Right, so they deserve it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, well, that's the old saying, right? The people have spoken and they need to be punished. And unfortunately, what happens is when you hit that line, all of a sudden you start to hear things like, maybe we should be a little bit more like Republicans. Because when you say those are the issues that we need to address, they're Republican issues. Whether he's an independent or not, there

[Jillian Turner]

is a risk in ready to lead the whole city. Who. Because they went viral on a couple of social media videos.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, yeah, like Mambani.

[Jillian Turner]

I'm not saying that that's, you know, like Maybe he'll be amazing, but also maybe he.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go before Greg jumps in again.

[Jesse Waters]

I'll move there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Coming up next, a shocking moment. A commencement speaker met with booze after praising AI innovation.

[Jillian Turner]

I'm a pretty fit teenage.

[Jesse Waters]

You wonder why I always dress in

[Paul Morrow]

black, why you never see bright colors on.

[Jesse Waters]

Not everybody feeling great about the AI revolution. College grads in Florida clobbering their commencement speak with booze after she said this.

[Jillian Turner]

Listen, the rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution. Oh,

[Jesse Waters]

What happened?

[Jillian Turner]

Okay, I struck a chord.

[Jesse Waters]

So why do you think they booed Greg?

[Paul Morrow]

Well, I love it when people boo things that they use.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, right.

[Paul Morrow]

Everyone there is using. Using AI. They probably did it for their. Just their. Their last term paper. It's the same people that hate capitalism while posting TikTok videos on their iPhone while wearing $200 running shoes. It's just they're young and they're stupid the way. The way the automobile sped up travel. AI is going to speed up research. That's all we're doing. AI is going to reduce mental effort. But in both cases, cars and AI, you need to operate the tool that's going to. There's going to be jobs for that, and AI is going to create as many jobs as it gets rid of. Basically, it's going to skip. What AI does is like when you're looking for something, it skips four or five steps to finding an answer. That's all it's doing, which gives you more time to do other things, which is either to do your job better, find more effective work, indulge your hobbies. Whatever cures will arrive faster, tech advances will appear out of nowhere. And it is because the fact. It's just. It's no different than the calculator. The calculator got rid of actual arithmetic. I mean, imagine if we had to do all of our arithmetic by hand. We would get nothing done.

[Jesse Waters]

I still do mine. Yes, that's how I tip. Jillian, you are nodding your head pretty aggressively over there. What issue do you have?

[Jillian Turner]

Wait, what was I doing?

[Jesse Waters]

You were nodding your head.

[Jillian Turner]

Can you do it one more time for the camera? I agreed with what Greg said about how the positive. So, like, there's endless potential for AI to make human beings, the world, a better place for a whole lot of reasons. But I think you were mistaken if you think it's just going to help people do things faster.

[Paul Morrow]

How so?

[Jillian Turner]

Well, today's generation of AI is going to be different than the generation of AI that comes out next week and the week after. We have no idea what AI is going to be able to do 10 years from now. So there is a lot of risk as well as as there's a lot of downside and a lot of upside. These young people see the downside down here for here's one example, right? Already very AI is like in its infancy, but already it is kind of gotten rid of the need for people to write original things or to read original output. There's going to be a time not 100 years from now, but like 10, 20 years from now.

[Paul Morrow]

Do you lament the fact that you don't?

[Jillian Turner]

It will be difficult. It will be get difficult for people to read something written by a human brain.

[Jessica Tarloff]

But the TI89 didn't take anyone else

[Paul Morrow]

jobs, a hot air balloon to get get to places.

[Jillian Turner]

There's also going to be a long pain. It's a pain point right now for these young people who are graduating that the market is not, the job market

[Paul Morrow]

is not adjusted to the blood out of you when you're sick.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Desperately. You have to know the room. When I was supposed to be only a blue collar problem, very few people wanted to talk about it, right? They were like ok, some of those rubes won't have their jobs anymore and we'll all do self checkout and like we'll just move on with our lives and maybe they'll learn to code or figure it out now that it's a white collar problem and that everyone from a first year to a third year law associate is apparently going to be completely useless.

[Paul Morrow]

Isn't that great?

[Jessica Tarloff]

No, it's not awesome. So you're talking to a room of recent grads, right, who are saying how am I going to.

[Paul Morrow]

We need more humans.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Excuse me. Okay.

[Jessica Tarloff]

No, no, you do actually need lawyers.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Watch yourself.

[Jesse Waters]

It's a great line. I think that went over Jessica's head,

[Jessica Tarloff]

went directly at my head and I say no, you okay.

[Jesse Waters]

You argue for more lawyers. I'm with Greg on that. But I do see your point. You need to be compassionate because when things change quickly, there are people that are left.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I came for your job.

[Jesse Waters]

Look possible you can't.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Undeniably you wouldn't want to.

[Paul Morrow]

I love an AI gentleman.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's undeniably very, very disruptive. We're at the point where it's starting to really disrupt when it gets married to quantum computing, which is probably five years out, world's going to be very different. The downside will be when it kills us all. All right. If that. I'm listening to Musk. But right now, as it moves forward, I tend to agree with Greg. It gets you where you want to go much, much faster. And let me just give you the subtlest benefit that we are starting to see now. And that's the death of Hollywood, all right? Because you're not going to need these clowns anymore to make these movies and tell us how horrible we all are. Because AI the next Spielberg is a kid in his room with his laptop that's making the movie and looks every bit as good as any other movie. We're going to have Micro Hollywood. Goodbye, Hollywood. Adios. All right, see you later.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, I like Hollywood. Yeah, I like movies. What's wrong with you, Paul?

[Greg Gutfeld]

What movies do you like now? I like Star Wars, Daredevil 67 or something like, what the hell is Daredevil 67?

[Paul Morrow]

I watched Appaloosa last night.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That was the last good movie that Hollywood.

[Jesse Waters]

Actually, I'm talking about porn. Gutfeld, you are wrong. You know what?

[Jillian Turner]

Bring the Devil Wears Prada 2.

[Jessica Tarloff]

That was her favorite movie.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, Devil Wears Prada 2 is what you're going to advertise.

[Jesse Waters]

I don't believe a thing she said.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know what? Bring in the A.I.

[Jesse Waters]

last show.

[Greg Gutfeld]

By the way, where's the A.I. jesse, get that one going.

[Jesse Waters]

Coming up next, find out why Greg can't cancel his chest wax subscription.

[Paul Morrow]

But it ain't me, baby.

[Jesse Waters]

You call my

[Jillian Turner]

music.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Check this out from the Times. Streaming toilet paper underwear subscription fatigue is setting in. The Average American has 5.2 subscriptions and spends $69 a month on them. Greg, you're shaking your head. Are you fatigued?

[Paul Morrow]

I know we don't have much time, but this is. This is a typical New York Times story where they lodge a complaint without a problem. If you think subscriptions are a hassle, then cancel them. You know, it's the worst kind of story because it replaces stories about problems where you don't have a choice. Like they've never done a story about getting rid of cash bail or creating new property taxes. These are things outside of your control that actually impact your life. But they do this incredible deep dive on boy. People have $70 a month on subscription services. If only there was a solution for this, you piece of crap. You people are pathetic and disgusting.

[Greg Gutfeld]

In other words, don't cancel your subscription to Greg's.

[Paul Morrow]

Cancel your local subscription to the New York Times.

[Jillian Turner]

Greg's livelihood, some people would say, is dependent on subscription. All of us, right? Don't you count cable as a subscription?

[Paul Morrow]

Whatever.

[Jesse Waters]

It's a choice.

[Jillian Turner]

That's.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's true. That's true.

[Jesse Waters]

It's a great choice, America. Support all the choices you've made.

[Paul Morrow]

This isn't even a real subscription fatigue. They just take the word for and they attach it to some other word.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I did just have two huge things of overnight diapers in a size too small for my younger baby delivered because I had not canceled my subscription. Do you want them? Yeah, I got you.

[Jesse Waters]

Diaper deals.

[Jessica Tarloff]

One more thing's up next.

[Paul Morrow]

One more thing.

[Jesse Waters]

Jesse Eating frenzy. Can we have the funny animation?

[Paul Morrow]

There it is.

[Jesse Waters]

What does that remind you of, Greg?

[Paul Morrow]

I don't know.

[Jesse Waters]

That weekend Smoothie King and Grillo's pickles. They're teaming up. We got a limited edition pickle smoothie. Blending pickles with bananas, kale and coconut water. Guys, this is really healthy. And you're gonna try it first. Go ahead, Paul. Come on, Paul. They're advertising.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right?

[Paul Morrow]

They are not even. No, they should now.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, my God.

[Jillian Turner]

I can smell it. I can literally smell it.

[Jesse Waters]

It's organic kale.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Just.

[Jesse Waters]

We have tampon in a new Fraud Files edition.

[Paul Morrow]

Is he on the show?

[Jesse Waters]

You gotta wait and see.

[Jillian Turner]

Literally.

[Paul Morrow]

How brave of him to come on the show. I won't have a show tonight because of China.

[Jesse Waters]

China.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or sponsor.

[Paul Morrow]

Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.