Hoagie Hurler Faces Felony

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five – "Hoagie Hurler Faces Felony"

Episode Information:

• Title: Hoagie Hurler Faces Felony
• Host/Author: FOX News Podcasts
• Release Date: August 14, 2025

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Introduction to the Episode

Greg Gutfeld opens the episode with his characteristic blend of humor and current events, introducing the panel of guests: Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarloff, Charlie Hurt, and Dana Perino. The main topic centers around a peculiar incident where a man was charged with felony assault for throwing a hoagie at a federal agent in Washington, D.C.

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Main Discussion: Crime and Political Narratives

The Hoagie Incident and Support for Law Enforcement

• 00:48 - 02:44

  • Greg Gutfeld introduces the main story: a man charged with felony assault for throwing a hoagie at a federal agent. He emphasizes strong support for the police, stating, "Assault on a police officer. Officer. And we're gonna back the police to the hilt."

  • Dana Perino adds gravity to the situation, noting, "Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged him with a felony" (02:39).

  • The panel discusses the broader issue of violent crime, with Greg criticizing Democratic narratives that deny rising crime rates. He remarks, "Why is he doing that thing again on the toilet? It makes no sense," pointing to perceived inconsistencies in Democratic leadership’s stance on crime (01:34).

Trump’s Stance on Crime and Democratic Responsibility

• 02:44 - 05:33

  • Donald Trump is featured discussing the Democratic Party's handling of crime, asserting, "They're never going to win another election. And instead of calling me a dictator they like to say Trump's a dictator" (02:44).

  • Jessica Tarloff emphasizes the neglect of serious issues by Democrats, stating, "Look at Gavin Newsom. The kids there are about to go back to school. They have to step over other human beings, human feces and the like, just to get to school." (03:24)

  • Dana Perino brings up the issue of underreporting violent crimes due to police directives, reinforcing the argument that Democratic narratives on crime are misleading (03:24).

Critique of Democratic Leadership and Policies

• 05:17 - 12:00

  • The discussion shifts to the perceived failure of Democratic policies in improving safety and public services. Dana Perino criticizes the Democratic approach, highlighting increased homelessness and drug addiction during Biden’s presidency: "We did see the difference when Biden was president. You did see more homeless, you did see more drug addicted people" (03:24).

  • Greg Gutfeld sarcastically suggests that the hoagie-throwing incident mirrors the Democratic Party's broader issues, calling the perpetrator "the poster boy for your party."

  • Kellyanne Conway and Charlie Hurt further delve into the inefficacies of Democratic leadership, questioning their ability to handle rising crime and public safety concerns.

Donald Trump’s Perspective on Democratic Insanity

• 12:00 - 26:44

  • Donald Trump voices his criticisms directly, stating, "They are led by insane people" and labeling some Democratic figures as "communist" and "crazy" (25:01).

  • Charlie Hurt echoes these sentiments, comparing Trump’s authenticity to Democratic attempts to mimic his style without success: "He is the original" (16:59).

  • Jessica Tarloff discusses the Democratic Party’s internal struggles and low approval ratings, attributing it to inconsistent leadership and failure to address core issues like crime and economic policies.

  • Dana Perino and the panel criticize Democratic strategies, suggesting that their focus is more on maintaining power rather than solving tangible issues affecting Americans’ daily lives.

Polls and Public Opinion on Crime

• 19:05 - 24:36

  • The conversation includes an analysis of polling data showing high concerns about crime among residents, particularly in Washington, D.C. Jessica Tarloff questions the Democrats' disconnect with their constituents: "We have a little board there, starting with Hurricane Kristina and the newsroom launch. The Haiti earthquake election coverage, of course." (41:29)

  • Kellyanne Conway counters by arguing that polls are often misrepresented and that Democratic strategies are misaligned with actual public needs and safety concerns.

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Secondary Topics: Redistricting and Democratic Strategy

California’s Redistricting Push

• 14:00 - 21:13

  • Dana Perino discusses California Governor Gavin Newsom’s redistricting efforts, which aim to alter electoral maps in a way that could benefit Democrats. She criticizes the move as a power grab, linking it to broader national strategies to maintain Democratic dominance.

  • Charlie Hurt and Jessica Tarloff highlight the lack of substantive policies from Democrats, arguing that redistricting is a tactic to stay in power without addressing real issues like housing and immigration.

• 21:35 - 30:03

  • Greg Gutfeld and Kellyanne Conway argue that Democrats are more focused on power retention than on solving societal problems. They contend that issues such as inflation and cost of living should take precedence over political maneuvers like redistricting.

  • Dana Perino and the panel assert that Democratic leadership lacks the capability to implement effective policies, relying instead on superficial strategies to maintain their hold on power.

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Audience Engagement: Parenting and Personal Responsibility

Parental Responsibility in Youth Behavior

• 33:01 - 38:34

  • The panel shifts to discuss differing parenting styles in New Jersey suburbs versus college campuses. Jessica Tarloff contrasts strict ordinances holding parents accountable for their children's behavior with parents who equip their college-bound children with condoms and Narcan.

  • Kellyanne Conway supports parental responsibility, suggesting that parents should be held accountable for their children's actions, while also acknowledging the complexity of enforcing such measures.

  • Greg Gutfeld controversially advocates for treating juvenile offenders as adults, emphasizing severe punishments for serious crimes committed by minors.

Trust and Privacy in Relationships

• 38:34 - 40:42

  • The discussion briefly touches on the acceptability of snooping on a partner’s phone. Panelists express skepticism about the necessity and implications of such behavior, hinting at broader issues of trust and privacy in relationships.

  • Greg Gutfeld humorously relates this to extreme scenarios, reinforcing the idea that trust is paramount and that snooping is often a red flag for underlying relationship problems.

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Closing Remarks and Future Topics

• 40:43 - 43:15

  • The episode wraps up with lighter banter about animals and upcoming conversations, including a humorous mention of Hillary Clinton and fictional scenarios involving Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

  • Greg Gutfeld teases future segments, maintaining the show's signature blend of serious analysis and satire.

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Notable Quotes

• Greg Gutfeld (01:28): "Assault on a police officer. Officer. And we're gonna back the police to the hilt."

• Dana Perino (02:39): "Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged him with a felony."

• Donald Trump (02:44): "They are led by insane people."

• Jessica Tarloff (03:24): "Look at Gavin Newsom. The kids there are about to go back to school. They have to step over other human beings, human feces and the like, just to get to school."

• Greg Gutfeld (24:26): "If you want to find some sort of cohesion with people outside of your bubble is to just be yourself, not to try to be somebody else."

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Five, the panel delves deep into issues surrounding crime, political narratives, and the effectiveness of Democratic policies. With a mix of sharp critiques and political commentary, the hosts express concerns over rising crime rates, the Democratic Party's strategies, and the broader implications for American governance and public safety. The discussion also touches on personal responsibility in parenting and the importance of trust in relationships, offering listeners a comprehensive look at the intersecting issues of politics and society.

Note: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions of the episode.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

You're America. Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld along with Kellyanne Conway. Jessica Tarloff, Charlie Hurt and she survived another beach season without being snatched by a seagull. Dana Perino the Five the left has found their new hero. A man is facing a felony assault charge after hurling his hoagie at a federal agent in D.C. watch. He thought it was funny.

[Dana Perino]

Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged him with a felony.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Assault on a police officer. Officer. And we're gonna back the police to the hilt.

[Jessica Tarloff]

So there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Stick your Subway sandwich somewhere else. Oh yeah. Should classify that weapon as a club. Turns out the sandwich slinger was a DOJ trial attorney and now his career is toast after Pam Bondi canned him. Mean with 100 arrests already on the books. And yet the Dems continue to deny reality. Chuck Schumer has the luxury of a full time security detail, but he says crime's no biggie because he goes on walks. I walk around all the time. I wake up early in the morning sometimes and take a nice walk as the sun is rising around some of the capitol and the other monuments and things. And I feel perfectly safe. They're full of it. Why is he doing that thing again on the toilet? It makes no sense. The thrill of his leg. Guy thinks Dems are falling for a trap. You can't keep saying violent crime is down but the murder rate's up. To the average person, the murder up is about life and death. You don't brag about a rising murder rate. And the Democrats are. I agree with you, Maka. They're falling into the trap of defending what's indefensible.

[Jessica Tarloff]

It's a trap.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Mmm. But 47 says Dems are secretly thankful.

[Donald Trump]

They'Re never going to win another election. And instead of calling me a dictator they like to say Trump's a dictator. Trump's a dictator. Well, I had calls from many, many friends, including Democrats, a lot of Democrat friends. But they're normal people and they were thanking me so much for what I'm doing in D.C. they feel so safe already.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know, Kellyanne, you live in D.C. it must kind of piss you off when people keep pushing this 30 year lie. Now, we know from the Fraternal Order of Police that police officers were told to downgrade violent crimes to lesser offenses, which are not included in the database. The whole narrative, once again, was false.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yes. And that allows us to have recidivism. Greg, how many times do we need to hear that such and such who murdered an innocent person or raped an innocent girl was let out the day before, the week before, the month before. It's because of what you describe. And it also is because of this epidemic of looking the other way. We've been told by liberals for years there's nothing we can do about it. We'll just throw more money at it. But they're homeless, but they're drug addled. But the kids have to be in failing schools, but you have to pay higher taxes for the luxury of living in these cities. And Donald Trump comes in and he blows, blows up the entire narrative. Most politicians want to mollify and reward their donor and their base of voters. This guy goes into a city that gave him 4 or 5% of the vote and starts making it safer, saner, cleaner. And I am thrilled I talked about this with him a couple days ago because I live in the heart of D.C. and I want to stay there. And we did see the difference when Biden was president. You did see more homeless, you did see more drug addicted people. Look at Gavin Newsom. The kids there are about to go back to school. They have to step over other human beings, human feces and the like, just to get to school. Everybody knows this is wrong. And I know Jessica loves polls. And I would just ask you, respectfully, the 91% of D.C. residents who told the Washington Post crime is a serious issue, why are you with the other 9%? Or who is this other 9%? How is, how can we not find 1, 2, 10, 50,000 Democrats to say this is a great idea? Thank you, President Trump.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Let me, before I get to Jessica, because I'm saving you best for last.

[Kellyanne Conway]

I appreciate that. Always.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Dana. The Morning Joe weirdos might have a point about this trap because Trump goes hard on crime and they just are obliged to go soft because their ego will not allow them to agree with Trump. So they actually know they're falling in. Chris Matthews knows they're falling into a trap, but they can't help themselves.

[Dana Perino]

Right. Well, and that's why Joe Scarborough, he's like, well, I just got a text from a friend and he said crime's terrible, and he's really glad that Trump is doing this. And then I saw him tweet that there's. That crime isn't a problem. And he was calling him out without calling mouths. But whoever they are, that person knows who they are.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It was him.

[Dana Perino]

The thing about Chuck Schumer really bothers me. So he has a 20 person detail, probably. Right. He's got 24. 7 security. As he should. Okay. The other thing is, if you live on Capitol Hill, where Charlie and I first met when we lived there, it's not great, but it's better than some places. But here's why. It's Capitol Hill police. It's Capitol Police that patrol that area. And that's a different ball of wax. Ball of wax.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That works especially with his ears.

[Dana Perino]

What's that phrase? Oh, gosh, you guys, it's Thursday afternoon, obviously, but that. One of the things I was thinking was Chuck Schumer is saying that is that one. He's fallen. He fell into the trap. Hakeem Jeffries fell into the trap. Meanwhile, you have people like Henry Cuellar. He was a victim of an armed carjacking in the Navy Yard neighborhood. That's where they have an increased curfew. Now, Angie Craig, she's a Democrat of Minnesota. She was attacked in her apartment building by somebody who got in. Remember all of that? Those are Democrats. Those are people from Capitol Hill. Do they feel safer on Capitol Hill? You feel safer on the Capitol grounds because there are Capitol Police. I would bet that if you were to get Chuck Schumer staffers away from the office and you were to ask them, do you feel safe that they were probably spitting nails behind his back, that he was saying that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Spitting nails, you know. Charles, do you want to talk about.

[Dana Perino]

That kettle of fish?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Kettle of fish. Ah, there you go.

[Charlie Hurt]

Ball of wax is good, though.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Do you want to talk about the hoagie tosser? He's got, like, the throwing strength of Greta Thunberg. Did you see that? Yeah.

[Charlie Hurt]

And he's also blinding, which I think is kind of interesting because there are more. More. There are more Black residents in D.C. than there are white residents. When you look at these protests, it's all white people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Charlie Hurt]

There are all these, like, like, like ideological D.C. residents, as opposed to, like, normal D.C. residents. And if Republicans actually tried to campaign in a place like Washington, D.C. which they don't, you could run that. The Schumer clip. I agree with you, Dana. The Schumer clip was just. That was the, you know, let them eat cake moment where you could just, like, run that on a loop and people would be appalled, especially in those neighborhoods that aren't right there on Capitol Hill. The other thing, and obviously, you know, all the talk about this, the stats, the stats are always jimmied with. They always. You can't, like, trust any of them. And it's kind of funny because the whole reason that we started collecting stats was because you can't, like, fix something you don't measure. But then they immediately figured out how to lie about them. So that's where we are now. But I think it's interesting that Democrats all talk about how, oh, no, it's down 30% or it's down whatever, but they don't ever talk about a single policy that they've ever put forward that brought about this change, because they don't have any.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, you could argue, okay, maybe it was the inauguration. Enhanced law enforcement during that period of time that might have changed it for a month would have done that. But they don't say. If you ask them, they won't have an answer. Jessic, I have an offer for you, and I think you should accept Trump's offer for a ride along. It would be. No, no, no. Think about it. It would be great for this show.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Don't wear that shirt.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It would be great for this show. Right? You should do the ride along.

[Charlie Hurt]

Does she have to do it with Trump or can she do it in a cop car?

[Kellyanne Conway]

Yeah, she just wants me to wear, like, a little vest and, you know, hop in there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You would learn. So it would broaden your knowledge on what's really out there. You'd be more street. Jessica.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Yeah, I can see that transformation happening really quickly, that suddenly I become very street.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But to Charlie's point, the protesters are not the people that are suffering. They're just the paid protesters.

[Kellyanne Conway]

So I don't think necessarily that they're paid, but I understand that those people probably have a higher quality of life than a lot of people who are inner city DCNs. And the polling has always been consistent that minority residents of these cities want more police, not less. So I'm not fighting with that. I think that if you just say there's no problem at all, that you're going to be on the wrong side of it. And we've lost too many 80, 20 issues. But I think that we can be smart about this. You can point out the fact that you have members of the National Guard walking on the Mall and around Georgetown guarding Sephora, and that's an absurd use of tax dollars. You could also say, hey, Republicans, you took a billion dollars from the D.C. budget, money that was going to go to police salaries and school programs. Because we know also kids don't commit crimes if they're actually in school. That's a good thing. So that's a solution. Give us back our money. I also think Muriel Bowser has been very conciliatory with Donald Trump. She doesn't want to be on his bad side. She immediately took up Black Lives Matter Plaza when he came back into office. Why didn't he say, I'm thinking about doing this? Mayor Bowser, how can we work together? We have the same goals and the same aims. Do it with the police chief as well and try to figure that out.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Bowser, Martha's Vineyard for one day on.

[Kellyanne Conway]

A personal family matter. I don't know what's going. She's not going to be found at a party on the beach. If you are about to do that, don't do that because I just said that you're not going to. What is also the most important aspect of this is that taking over the D.C. police, like what he did in Los Angeles as well, is part of this massive consolidation of power the Donald Trump has been undertaking. So when you call an emergency for everything, and he even said today, remember it was an emergency, it is not. He said, at first I have 30 days. And then he said, well, I can make it a national emergency and then it would be forever. I could do it. I don't know if I will. How he plays around with that, what he's doing with redistricting mid cycle, how he's going after universities and law firms, how he's firing people who give him information that he doesn't want, like the head of the Bureau of Labor, all legal. And he puts in a guy who goes to January 6th who's going to do what he wants and maybe we won't have a job report.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What is your alternative? Please tell us.

[Kellyanne Conway]

To have a Democratic president.

[Dana Perino]

Okay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That worked out really well.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Solved it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Kellyanne Conway]

2028. Let's go.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Thank you for calling it a hoagie, though. I really appreciated that as a filling.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Also, if you back the blue judge, Jeanine, who I miss dearly, then he pardoned all these January Sixers who beat the crap out of police.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They didn't beat the crap out of police.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Really? No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Who died on January 6th?

[Kellyanne Conway]

Ashley Babbitts.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's all you need to know.

[Kellyanne Conway]

No, it is not all you need to know. And you know that. Hundreds.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You don't have a coup.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Do not say that the hoagie guy is more of an offender than the people who attack police on January 6th.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I think the hoagie guy is the poster boy for your party. And when he goes to jail, he's not going to have a choice of toppings. Up next, Gavin Newsom freaks out after Border Patrol crashes his rally. Trying to forget your generation. Big News Direct.

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[Dana Perino]

Gavin Newsom is running to become Trump's top antagonist. The California governor, or more accurately, his staff, has been mimicking the president's trademark all caps truth social rants with posts like this Donald Taco Trump, as many call him, missed the deadline. Three exclamation points. California will now draw new, more beautiful maps. They will be historic as they will end the Trump presidency. Dems take back the House. Earlier, Newsom held a press conference to unveil California's new redistricting push.

[US Department of Health and Human Services]

Today is liberation day in the state of California. And as Senator Schiff said, as Senator Schiff said, Donald Trump, you have Poked the bear. And we will punch back. We cannot unilaterally disarm. They want to rig these elections and they want the power that gerrymandering provides because they know what Donald Trump knows. He's going to lose the midterms.

[Dana Perino]

Somebody else was at the Newsom news conference. Border Patrol agents were outside arresting illegal immigrants. And it sure set off the governor.

[US Department of Health and Human Services]

Pretty sick and pathetic. And it just said everything you need to know, the setting that we're under, that they chose the time, manner and place to send their district director outside right when we're about to have this press conference. She said, everything you know about Donald Trump's America, and that was top down. You know that for a fact. They'll deny it, I'm sure. Maybe they won't deny it. Should everything you know about the authoritarian tendencies, the President of the United States.

[Dana Perino]

What do you think of that, Charlie?

[Charlie Hurt]

The guy is such a faker. He's such a fraud. It's so absurd. Who has time to come sit down and make up all of these tweets? And if you read them, he put a lot of effort into it. And he really did try to sort of like, get the voice of Trump. And I just, you know, when you look at the real problems that California faces with, whether it's the same ones that, you know, that we face nationally with illegal immigration, but also the very specific ones, you have entire neighborhoods that were burned to the ground a year ago that are desperate to rebuild, and his government is preventing people from rebuilding those houses. You would think that he might focus on that instead of doing these ridiculous. This ridiculous effort to try to channel Trump. One of his tweets at 9:42 this morning said, Donald Trump and Greg Abbott are going to have a very bad day today, which sounds a lot like Baghdad Bob or like the mullahs in Iran when they're talking junk on Twitter as Donald Trump is bombing their nuclear facilities. He's ridiculous. He's completely unserious. He reminds me a lot of Michael Avenatti before Michael Avenatti went off to prison, when everybody was like, oh, this guy's gonna be the next president. This guy's not gonna be president. This guy's a ridiculous buffoon, and he's not going anywhere. It does remind you, though, how much of a complete original Donald Trump is. All these people want to mimic him. He's not mimicking anybody. He is the original.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, I think that I hate it when people copy everything else. Like when my sister did it to me, that would drive me Insane.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Wow.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, Angie, hardest hit. But several of these people are trying that or they're trying to be tough and it's not authentic. And it's like, why not just try to be yourself? The worst way that you can try to find some sort of cohesion with people outside of your bubble is to just be yourself, not to try to be somebody else. In this case Trump, but themselves have.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Been rejected again and again now by the voters. Voters don't want defunding the police, defending the criminals, higher taxes, more regulations. Look at his California. Everything beautiful about California was God made. Every disaster there to me seems man made. And he's the man right now of the moment. I'm not even sure anybody tuning in, Dana, let alone in California halfway into his press conference even knows what he's talking about. They presume that we all know what brought us to that moment. That platform says rigging election, rigging Response Act. Adam Schiff's behind him, of all people. Next, we're going to invite Kamala up to the podium. I mean, Adam Schiff, of all people, who's got a true problem on his hands, having lied in the mortgage application thing. He's a, he's a senator from California. Somehow he lives in Maryland. And here's a guy who lied to all of us day after day. There is evidence of Russia collusion in plain sight. This is relevant it now because these investigations will continue. I don't think this is a case of flattery, is the greatest imitation, is the greatest form of flattery. I think it's a messageless, rudderless, leaderless party. And by the way, just north of him, up in Alaska, starting tomorrow, President Trump is going to literally own the turf again. He's trying to bring about yet another peace deal. We have Armenia and Azerbaijan. We have Cambodia and Thailand. We have what he's doing in the Middle East. We have direct foreign investment. All these trade deals. He goes to the Gulf states, he comes out of there with investments in this country, and now he's going to do it again with Putin. And meanwhile, you've got shifty Schiff and Newsom trying to troll him online. By the way, Donald Trump is one of one. Even Republicans who try to act like him often come.

[Dana Perino]

They fail.

[Jessica Tarloff]

And it's embarrassing and it's.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, but Jessica, also today there's a poll that said 61% of California Democrats oppose the plan to throw out the independent redistricting commission. Do you think that holds or can he persuade them that he's right?

[Kellyanne Conway]

So the problem with that Poll is. It didn't actually ask the question that applies to what Gavin Newsom is offering, which is to not get rid of the independent commission on a long term basis, but to suspend it. He's offering three different maps, three different versions of what's possible. It'll be on a ballot measure, so it will be democratically voted on on November 5th. And that poll question basically said, do you want to just get rid of independent commission? He's saying to suspend it until 2030. He knows how important independent redistricting is. It was Schwarzenegger's baby. He's spoken to the governor about that. Former governor. Governor and former governor. So that that poll is not applicable to what's actually going on here. I know as they get a lot of pickup, Kellyanne says all these people have been rejected. Gavin Newsom hasn't been rejected. He's been elected and reelected and recalled and then elected again. And he won that quite handedly. So I don't know where you're getting that. You can make fun of Adam Schiff, Alex Padilla, who, whoever you want. But California needs to do something because of what Donald Trump has asked Texas to do. And there is no reason that Democrats should show up with a knife to a gunfight. And that's what he's arguing. And it's not just that. So Texas will pick up five seats. What Gavin Newsom could potentially do if the voters decide again, this is about democracy, that they want to go full tilt. They could get nine seats so they could get five Republicans out and they could also shore up four vulnerable Democrats in swing seats and make sure we get those as well.

[Jessica Tarloff]

And when there are, I'll clarify. It's easy, simple to get elected, reelected and reelected as a Democrat, as a socialist, as a, as a code.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Gavin Newsom as a socialist, coddle criminals.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Has he condemned Mondami? Has he condemned what's going on here?

[Dana Perino]

Stop.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Just like throwing whatever on the wall about this. You're just using buzzwords.

[Jessica Tarloff]

No, no, no, you. I don't need to use buzzwords.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Here's Mandani has nothing to do with Gavin Newsom.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Oh, New York City has nothing to do with the governor of California. They're the same party as is your party. But since you invoke my name, we're.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Going to do fo.

[Jessica Tarloff]

And I get 30 seconds. Here's what I meant.

[Kellyanne Conway]

I never got that.

[Jessica Tarloff]

It is so simple to be elected, reelected, reelected as a Democrat in California. It's impossible to govern as these kinds of Democrats in California is all I mean, his policies are being rejected. People do want tough on crime. They don't want fewer cops on the beat. They don't want fewer Border Patrol people helping them. They don't want schools that are failing their kids year in and year out. And Democrats insisting everything's okay. He wants to be president in 2028. He ought to find a new country to try to do that.

[Dana Perino]

Let's ask the Californian what you think. Greg Gutfeld.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm struck about how finally you see passion among Democrats. But it's not about a policy. It's about a power based initiative. It's about how can we do this so we stay in power. It's not about homelessness, drug addiction, fires or trans or crime or the border. It's about redistricting. And then their fire is up. Gavin is so creepy, he makes American Psycho look like Pippi Longstocking. Again with taco. They don't get it. You know, if you want a meme or anything to be memorable, it has to be truth taken from absurdity. But if you are the absurdity, it's not possible. They should have learned that from Dark Brandon where they tried to make dementia cool. Oh, yeah, sure, Joe is frail, confused and incoherent, but he can almost put on his sunglasses by himself. Gavin can't be Trump because behind Trump's charisma is specific common sense policies. He understands people. Build a wall, deport criminals, eradicate vagrancy, get trans out of sports. What is Gavin for? He cannot point to one policy. It's not about crime, it's not about the wildfires. It's nothing. I don't know what he stands for. And it leads me to this other thing about trying to figure out why Democrats are so laz. And they are literally lazy. They think that if they just focus on Trump, then they don't have to assess these other issues. There's like six or seven issues. He says people are scared, he says, that Trump's gonna run for a third term. These are very easy things to say. They're hypothetical, they're not true, but it's easy. So if Democrats know the problem, why don't they solve it? Are they allergic to work? How are you allergic to work? It makes me think that when they look at a problem, they see the effort and the inconvenience that is put on them to reach that point where Republicans actually see the outcome of the work. And that makes the inconvenience and the effort worth it. So we're gonna be unpopular if we crack down on crime. So people will call us transphobic if we want men out of women's sports. So people are gonna call us xenophobic because we want a wall. But that's what we go through to get to. The Democrats, however, are just focused on the effort and the inconvenience of losing status. If they were to grow some balls.

[Kellyanne Conway]

If they wanted to do the work, they wouldn't steal five seats. And that's what Donald Trump asked them to do.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, that's a political question. I'm talking about people's concerns. And right now, you're in big trouble.

[Kellyanne Conway]

No, I'm not.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, you are. If I didn't have to go to the bathroom right now, we would have a serious conversation.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Let go, Greg.

[Dana Perino]

All right. Up next, President Trump is offering his blunt take on the leaders of the Democratic Party. We'll be right back.

[Donald Trump]

They are led by insane people.

[Charlie Hurt]

I wish I wasn't.

[Trey Gowdy]

It's Will Tane country. Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday through Thursday@fox news.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at FOX News Podcast or wherever you download your favorite podcasts.

[Charlie Hurt]

President Trump is telling it like it is, especially when it comes to the Democratic Party.

[Donald Trump]

I would say more than half are sane, but they are led by insane people. And they, the kind of things that they're pushing are not something. We have a communist running for the mayor of New York and I wish him well. And we're going to go out and we're going to vote it in by the Republicans because I don't believe that we, I don't believe that anybody is capable of making a deal with these people. They have gone crazy.

[Charlie Hurt]

And the voters agreed. Democrat net favorability plunges to a near three decade low. A negative 32 net favorability rating among registered voters. And yet Illinois Governor JB Pritzker says the party is perfect the way it is. To the pundits and the critics about what direction the national Democratic Party needs to go, I say take a look at Illinois Democrats winning elections is partly about messaging and strategy, but it's mostly about values and delivering on them. And our values are exactly, exactly where they ought to be. So it's time to stop apologizing when we're not wrong. So, Greg, if J.B. pritzker is the face of your party right now, you're probably in trouble.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. The bouncy butcher of Illinois. Pritzker can only survive if he speaks in platitudes like values. You want to talk about values? This guy designated Illinois as a sanctuary city for restrictions of trans surgeries on kids. So if you want to cut your kids junk off, you can go to his state. This is a guy that supports a grotesque practice. He promotes child mutilation under the guise of child affirming care. There is no care involved in this. Everybody that is involved in this practice should be thrown in jail.

[Dana Perino]

Right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

There is a feeling about the Democrat Party that you cannot deny. You blame innocent people on crimes of ancestry. You tell people their successes are oppressive because it's based on the backs of other. You brand people as phobic when they speak out against butchery. You push inappropriate sexual ideology on children. You advocate for deviant behavior over common sense. This is why he can't talk about issues. Because you can drill down and we can't let this go. The Democrat Party, until they have a reckoning deserve to live in purgatory for this. It is shameful. This is the worst issue, I think the worst social issue I've seen in my lifetime.

[Charlie Hurt]

You know, Dana Greg makes a very important and good point. And not a single fat joke and all of that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, bouncing butcher.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah, but he raises a very important point. I mean, you do sort of wonder if maybe some of these people aren't insane.

[Dana Perino]

Well, J.B. pritzker has three strikes against him. He's white, male and rich. And in today's Democratic Party that's like three strikes. You're out, you're going to go nowhere. And it makes sense because he's never had a tough race. Any seat that he's gone for, he can self fund. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I'm happy with that. But that doesn't mean he's going to. You're not going to get a groundswell of support that you would need. President Trump is very rich and yet he was able to get all of the support. JP Pritzker excites nobody. You can spend a ton of money, but ask Melbourne Mayor Bloomberg how that goes. And I just hope that some consultants make a ton of money so that he can earn one delegate.

[Charlie Hurt]

The of course the big difference is that Donald Trump is always talking about other people's problems. JB Pritzker's talking about these things that, these problems that values. Yeah. So Jessica, obviously one of the reasons that. And you're combating this fly.

[Dana Perino]

There's a big fly.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Just landed on my head. Look at that.

[Charlie Hurt]

It sure did.

[Kellyanne Conway]

It's like Mike Pence.

[Charlie Hurt]

So part of the problem with Democrats with the poll numbers is not only do Republicans not like Democrats, but Democrat voters are really frustrated with Democrats right now because they feel like they're completely in effect.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Yeah. So our Democrats. Perfect. Absolutely not. But as all of this is going on. No, I'm getting to it. I just wanted to own something before I launch. Our lead on the generic ballot keeps increasing and it's going up and up and some polls gets up to 7, 8 points, which is a good thing. And Donald Trump again wouldn't be asking Greg Abbott for five seats if he thought that they were going to do well in the midterm.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They're just acting like Democrats.

[Kellyanne Conway]

And you say Donald Trump tells it like it is literally today. He said inflation cooling right where we want it. And we got the US Wholesale inflation number, which is the highest that it's been in three years. Fresh and dry veggies up 39%. Beef up 80%. Toys, appliances, shoes, things that we all need. 44% of people are saying now that they are going to have to go into debt to get their kids back to school.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Is that worse than saying gender affirming care when you cut people's genitals off.

[Kellyanne Conway]

To actually talk to people on how they vote? I can tell you more people vote on whether they can afford food than whether there's gender affirming care in Illinois.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I doubt. I challenge you on that. You lost an election based on that.

[Kellyanne Conway]

No, we lost an election based on.

[Charlie Hurt]

Cost of living and immigration, but also on both of them.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Kellyanne, I think that the Democratic Party's. The Democratic Party was very unified and had almost unanimity for a long time. Not a single one of them. A vote for Amy Coney Barrett. Not a single one of them. Vote for the Tax Hunt Jobs Act. Not a single one of them. They all voted for inflation reduction Act. You see this fraying now. You see the mayor of Chicago not showing up to JB Pritzkerstoff. You see Hakeem Jeffrey sitting on different networks, sort of distancing himself from Mondame and saying he's got to make that case to New York City. This is new for the Democratic Party. They've earned these low approval ratings and they've earned them also from a group. We haven't talked about independents for years. Independents really were. They were lax Democrats. There were folks who said I would be a Democrat, but I have a problem with this. And the Democrats kind of own the social cultural stuff. That's Trump's wheelhouse now. He takes every cultural zeitgeist and he's ahead of it and leads it. And the trans stuff is really just the tip of the spear there. But here is the biggest problem for the Democrats, as I say it, the rich white men and a few women, to Dana's point, who are funding the party, are funding a party that wants to rail against the rich. J.B. pritzker spent, quote, $323 million. Yes, it's his own money. $323 million. Imagine what we could do in the state of Illin with his money. He bought his governor's seat. He's not a good governor. He's not a good speaker. They're not great at what they're doing. And I think therein lies the problem. AOC wears a stupid homemade gown that says tax the rich, gets all kinds of penalties for doing so, has to pay for her seat and more. But she's saying tax the rich in a party that's being led by JB Pritzker and George Soros and other billionaire donors.

[Greg Gutfeld]

JB the Jolly Butcher.

[Charlie Hurt]

There you go.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Perfect.

[Dana Perino]

Perfect.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Nepo, baby.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah. Yeah. Fight the oligarchy with JB Pritzker. Okay, up next, mom and dad are packing little Johnny some condoms and Narcan for college.

[Kellyanne Conway]

If you're an illegal alien from the.

[Greg Gutfeld]

FOX News Podcasts Network, hey there, it's me, Kennedy.

[Dana Perino]

Make sure to check out my podcast, Kennedy Saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Here's a tale of two parenting styles. Moms and dads in a New Jersey suburb can be tossed into prison and fined for their badly behaving children under a new, strict ordinance. But on the other end of the spectrum, parents are packing dorm doomsday kits, sending their kids back to campus with Narcan, condoms, and plan B. Jessica, what kind of mom would you prefer to be?

[Kellyanne Conway]

I am luckily many years away from condoms and Narcan. But I think, you know, I think it is a good development for parents to be held responsible for things that are going on with their kids. And I think that's true. You know, parents being held responsible for kids that are going out and committing murders when they've made it easy to access these guns or ignored behaviors, I would like to see the fine print on exactly what that is. But truancy is a huge problem. And at least if this happens, then maybe they can understand something more about what's going on in the home. So I think that's a Good thing. But if you're sending an 18 year old out into the world, like condom isn't like the worst thing in the world to get, right?

[Jessica Tarloff]

Dana, where's the line though between that 15 year old conduct and you being the parent as responsible for that conduct, going to prison and you just trying to mold young adult?

[Dana Perino]

I feel out of my depth on this topic. I don't have children.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And that you know of.

[Dana Perino]

I definitely don't have children.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Very hard to say that one by.

[Dana Perino]

A woman I don't know. I can see both sides of this. I know that the parents in New Jersey, some of them are upset saying, well, wait, you're telling. You are saying that our children can go to school and say that they want to become a girl?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

And you're not allowed to tell me, but then you're going to tell me that I'm in trouble for something my kid does when they're 15 or 16. But I also understand parental responsibility and I grew up in a pretty strict household. We were good kids. I mean, we got a lot of. We basically didn't get caught. But I didn't do things like that we're seeing here. So I see both sides of that. As for the college dorm room thing, all I could remember is that my mom and dad, the year I went to college got for my sister and me these. It was like a girl toolkit. And inside was a screwdriver and a hammer and everything. And I was so mad, like, this is my Christmas present. I thought I was such an irritant. I use that thing every day. And I would say you could throw one of those in along with the condoms and the Narcan.

[Jessica Tarloff]

But not the plan B. I mean.

[Dana Perino]

Charlie, no, not the plan B. Do not do that.

[Jessica Tarloff]

No. We have fire extinguishers with no expectation that you're going to be an arsonist. I mean, aren't we encouraging some behaviors here by saying don't worry?

[Charlie Hurt]

Oh, yeah, the trouble kid is weird. Very weird. But as far as like punishing parents for their children's behavior, I'm actually with Jessica on this. I like the idea of it, but I don't know that the government can actually pull that off. But I do love what I love about the ordinance though. It lists some of the behavior that the parents can be held accountable for. And I just really love this. Part of includes habitual vagrancy, incorrigibility, immorality, knowingly associating with thieves or vicious or immoral, people growing up in idleness and delinquency or idly roaming the streets at night. I like the ordinance that must have.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Been written in 1945.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yeah, it's a good argument for not naming your son junior if you're being held to account for that. Greg, I grew up six miles away from Sicklerville, New Jersey, where this mayor, a Democrat who's been in office for 21 years is calling for the ordinance. But what do you think as a new dad?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, first, okay, condoms, Narcan, plan B. That's what Hunter Biden calls Sunday. These kids should be killed with kindness. We're really tiptoeing about the criminals that we call juveniles who are committing adult crimes. We're not talking about truancy, we're talking about really violent crimes. I don't know why like a 16 or 17 year old is seen as a child when they commit a brutal adult act, he should be instantly treated as an adult. I don't know why we blur the faces of people when they're arrested, you know, or let's start naming them. Why do we have to have kid gloves for vicious kids? Not bad, right? Little turn of phrase. So I think, you know, if, let's say a juvenile, let's say a 16 year old kid commits murder, all right, or a 15 year old, he shouldn't get out till he's 30. I mean, let's say it's manslaughter. It should be because by then his aggression and his desire for risk has already peaked. He's out of circulation. You can't leave him on the streets cuz he's only gonna get worse and hurt somebody else. You put him in, you lock him up. That's what prisons are for. They get into programs that involve job training because other than that they are lost to the world and they're only gonna make life hell. I'm tired of treating bad kids as simply kids, cuz they aren't.

[Jessica Tarloff]

We do tend to treat a lot of kids like adults and adults like kids in society. The fastest is up next.

[Trey Gowdy]

This is the Mahindra Listen to the all new Bret Baer podcast featuring Common Ground in depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle along with all your Bret Bear favorites like his all star panel and much more. Available [e-mail] or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Welcome back. Is it ever okay to snoop on your partner's phone? Nearly 30% of American adults say it's at least sometimes acceptable. Kellyanne, where are you on this?

[Jessica Tarloff]

Not a big fan. I Think if you need to snoop that much on your partner's phone, it should be the last time.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jessica Tarloff]

You have a lot of problems. These articles do make the point about sleuthing, though. There's so much that's in the public domain now, but who follows whom on these social media apps that you can sort of piece it together. But again, I mean, it sounds fun, but it is furtive. And it's hard to believe that you'd be in an intimate situation with someone and then feel the need to be. So double dealing.

[Dana Perino]

Dana, I would say this is a red flag for your relationship if you think you need to do it. If you're tempted to walk away, I think it's a terrible idea.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Charlie, do you guys have each other's passcodes?

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah, because it's not sleuthing. It's just like, you need the picture, you need the whatever, and so you.

[Kellyanne Conway]

GPS the WiFi code.

[Charlie Hurt]

Right, exactly.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Share it with me.

[Charlie Hurt]

Or you need the thing you sent her six times and you can't find.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Don't do that to her. Greg, where are you on this?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I just looked at my latest text. It's from the dog walker.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Okay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Good walk. Peed, no poop. Got a bit riled up seeing the other dog, so I ran a bit hot and I brought him home a few minutes early. Please do not reply. You know, you guys are missing a big point here. What if you're married to a murderer? What if. What if murderous?

[Kellyanne Conway]

Texas, a red flag.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I'm sure. But I'm there. Like that serial killer in Long Island. Maybe his wife should have been snooping on the phone. She would have saved a bunch of lives. I say snoop away.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah. You know what? We should put her in jail. Yes, because she didn't snoop.

[Greg Gutfeld]

She didn't snoop enough. She didn't snoop enough. I can't snoop. My wife's. All of her texts are in Russian.

[Dana Perino]

You can use Google.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Something about tomorrow. It's really important.

[Kellyanne Conway]

One more thing is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Next. Every Friday, America. This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests.

[Trey Gowdy]

Listen and follow now@fox newspodcast.com or wherever.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You download podcasts, data. Okay.

[Dana Perino]

I want to congratulate. And you'll join me, right? Bill hemmer is celebrating 20 years with tomorrow. We have a little board there, starting with Hurricane Kristina and the newsroom launch. The Haiti earthquake election coverage, of course. And he does look the same all the Way through.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

Ageless and most recent. And then just last week, he was in Israel and Gaza. But an incredible colleague and fun person to have in our lives. So congratulations to Bill Hammer, 20 years.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Billy, Billy, Billy. All right, tonight we got a great show. Lee Zeldin, Joe DeVito. Catch him. And Tyrus. Let's do this. Sexy sloth news. We're gonna take it slow. Check it out. Because when it's with sloth, they do everything slow and they love it wet. When they want to cool off on a hot summer day like at the Memphis Zoo, Maryland. A two toed sloth. You know what that means, Dana? Huh? She likes to play hard. Drinking water from a ho. Love that. Host nocturnal animals means it's fun at night, wild at night. Loves to live up in the trees. And the fur grows from belly to back. No Brazilian there, kiddo. The rain slides right off her hairy raincoats.

[Dana Perino]

All right, did Harold send that to you?

[Kellyanne Conway]

Note.

[Charlie Hurt]

Jessica.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Okay, I'm really excited about this. I had an hour long conversation with Secretary Hillary Clinton about. I just asked you guys to be nice.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Don't kill yourself.

[Kellyanne Conway]

We talked about the meeting tomorrow between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. We talked about the 2024 election. We talked about whether she thinks a woman can win the presidency, whether Donald Trump will really leave office. Wide ranging and exciting conversation. It's tomorrow. Raging moderates.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Charlie.

[Charlie Hurt]

Okay, check this out. New video showing recently extinct direwolf puppies meeting for the first time.

[Dana Perino]

Man.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, that's it. Sorry about that. Hey, I'm Trey Gy, host of the Trey G Podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side.

[Trey Gowdy]

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