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Dana Perino
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Kennedy, Harold Ford Jr. Paul Morrow, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five moderate Democrats are sweating through a hot socialist summer. Zoran Mamdani is closing in on the Democratic nomination for New York City mayor, and he's already stirring up controversy. The socialists refused three times to condemn hateful rhetoric that calls for violence against Israelis and Jews.
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Kennedy
Do you condemn that phrase? Globalize the Intifada?
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Zoran Mamdani
That's not language that I use. The language that I use and the language that I will continue to use to lead the city is that which speaks clearly to my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief in universal human rights.
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Harold Ford Jr.
But do you actually condemn it?
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Greg Gutfeld
I don't believe that the role of.
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Zoran Mamdani
The mayor is to police speech.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Why not just condemn it?
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Zoran Mamdani
My concern is to start to walk down the line of language and making clear what language I believe is permissible or impermissible takes me into a place similar to that of the President, who is looking to do those very kinds of things.
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Dana Perino
Okay, what? Anyway, Zoron had no hesitation condemning billionaires and the white neighborhoods he wants to tax.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.
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Zoran Mamdani
That is just a description of what we see right now. It's not driven by race. It's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being undertaxed versus overtaxed. I don't think that we should have billionaires because, frankly, it is so much money in a moment of such inequality.
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Dana Perino
And President Trump is sizing up the man he might have to work with.
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Zoran Mamdani
He's a communist. I think it's very bad for New York. I don't know that he's going to get in. If he does get in, I'm going to be president and he's going to have to do the right thing. They're not getting any money. Whoever's mayor of New York is going to have to behave themselves or the federal government is coming down very tough on them financially.
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Dana Perino
He said if Benjamin Netanyahu comes to.
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Harold Ford Jr.
New York, he's going to have him arrested.
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Zoran Mamdani
He's a radical left lunatic.
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Dana Perino
So this was burning up the airwaves partly because it's not just a New York story, in my opinion. Kennedy, I feel like this is a tale of things to come, and it's coming to a city near you because there are patterns here on behavior, on the slogans and the tactics on which he is doing this campaign.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah. And you know, this old song and dance has been used over and over again. But it's a Ponzi scheme because there's always a new group of voters who, you know, look at this stuff and they see it all and they take it at face value. It is a very superficial, very slick message that incredibly well packaged. But if you look beneath the surface and you look where socialism and democratic socialism has harmed communities throughout the country, you don't have to look very far. You know, you can go to Chicago and let's go. Brandon Johnson, the mayor there, has done a great disservice to the city and there are writers there, reporters and citizens who are warning New Yorkers, don't fall for it. It is a scam. He doesn't have your back. He is not going to improve these neighborhoods. He's going to turn Madison Avenue into the market of sweethearts like they have in Roosevelt Avenue in his home district of Queens. So it's incredibly dangerous. But he's done a great job targeting voters who haven't heard it before. And my advice to them is talk to the exiles from places like Eastern Europe and Cuba, where socialism kills. Or, you know, talk to some of the free market reformers in Sweden who saw their GDP swirling down the toilet when they tried to be a socialist country, the kind of country that, that Bernie Sanders admires, but that system of governance and economics doesn't exist in Sweden anymore. They had to change. They had to change.
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Dana Perino
Would you put Portland in that same category?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Absolutely. Portland in Seattle, all these cities where they have ultra liberal DAs who hate cops. They hold these cities hostage. They give all the rights to homeless people and make sure they have as many drugs as possible, and they call it harm reduction, but they don't get people into rehab. They have abandoned the drug courts and they are human waste that they have just thrown onto the streets.
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Dana Perino
Harold, he is kind of the only one that has figured out a way to go through the window that opened when basically Mayor Adams decided to run as an independent. He and Cuomo felt too old, too scandalized, too, like the campaign was very lackluster, didn't even try and. And he just said, I'm going to go right through here. And he created a lane. And now the Democrats are looking at that. Wait, so who is our leader? Is it Hakeem Jeffries? Is it Schumer? Or is it this guy?
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Kennedy
So it's always good to have Greg Gutfeld back around the table. Good to see you.
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Zoran Mamdani
I missed you. Did you get my card?
- [04:57]
Kennedy
Dana, you asked a couple questions in there. Now the leader of the Democratic Party here in the city. He has become a face of it. Mondami. I still think Eric Adams as the incumbent would make a claim to that. And I don't know what Andrew Cuomo is going to do. I think he still has a line on the ballot. But let's step back. I didn't understand his interview with Kirsten Walker. He said that he didn't want to add race or introduce race to this, but he is. And he doesn't want to police speech. But I guess it's okay for him to add any kind of speech he wants and just wrap it or defend it with the notion of free speech. I wonder what he thinks about the word slavery. Is that something you don't want to talk about or what he thinks about the N word? Does he have friends who use that word and we may misunderstand it? To talk about wealth and race, I think is the most racist thing to do. So I hope if he's going to be he is the leader, the nominee for the Democratic Party. I hope he hope he understands that. And I hope he reassesses how he talks about these things because a lot of people are listening and a lot of people reacting, too. I give him credit in this regard to your question, Dana. He figured out something we've been saying around this table, that affordability is the issue on most Americans mind. And I wouldn't argue with Paul. Public safety and security is as well. But affordability was a big, big issue. And the person who grabbed it the best, who talked about it the best, who developed answers after tackling the issue, the best was Donald Trump. His answers. He's diagnosed the challenge, I think here in New York, right, that prices are way high for housing, prices are way high for small business owners. But to give away everything free as the answer, I think it's hard to say to small business owners who pay taxes, who work hard, who want to instill a work ethic in their employees and their children and those around them, that we should just give everything away for free. So whomever is his leading opponent, whether it's Andrew Cuomo or Eric Adams, is certainly on the ballot that they craft a message around these things to go after him and make him answer, how are you assessing wealth through race? But you can't condemn global intifada. You can't condemn or acknowledge the state of Israel's right to exist. I mean, these are real questions I think he's going to have to answer.
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Dana Perino
He wants free rent. He wants $30 per hour for Minimum wage, which basically means that every business is going to have to figure out a way to come up with all of that money. And Paul, the other thing that he had been for is defund the police. And you lived through that. And he's trying to sort of weaselly walk himself out of it, but it's there in black and white.
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Greg Gutfeld
Look, we're going to get to know him a lot better before game time here in November, all right? And this is very early in the game, so right now, it's got to be all teased out. Let's go through a couple of things. First of all, how far would you be able to get away with saying globalize apartheid? Because that's how that hits the ear of Jewish Americans. To globalize the intifada means, okay, the intifada is an uprising in the Middle East. You can attack Jews if you're globalizing it. That means you can do it anywhere. Furthermore, he says, you know what? Mayor shouldn't police speech. Yet at the same time, he is saying, I am going to crack down on quote, unquote, bigotry and hate speech in the five boroughs. And he mentions maga, naturally, of course. So that's very contradictory. Let's remember something. He got in because I would argue he's the first guy to truly weaponize. This is the first TikTok campaign.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yep.
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Greg Gutfeld
He's the one who figured out how to weaponize TikTok to get him in. So when you consider the fact that it's received wisdom on both the left and the right that TikTok is a Chinese influence operation, which it is. Okay. The American TikTok looks very different from the TikTok that you get in Beijing. If that's the case, is it any shock that his electorate tracks closer to Beijing than it does to New York or Washington? Of course it does, because that's what they're getting. They're getting Beijing's message. Now, I'm not saying he's a Beijing agent. He's Chinese agent.
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Dana Perino
He.
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Greg Gutfeld
He's part of the ccp. I'm not alleging that, but it's the ideology, and that's just basically that. Real quick, let's go through the metrics of the vote. Since you bring it up. What he's doing right now is he understands that chances are Cuomo is not going to be there by game day, which means his main adversary is going to be Eric Adams. So what he's doing is he's leaning very hard into the black vote. He knows Adams is going to peel that Off. So that's why you see him. He's meeting with the river, now he's with Spike Lee. He's quoting the. All of a sudden, he's talking about Reverend King, which you've never heard him do, and he's doing this thing. Well, I said white. I didn't mean white. What he's trying to do is peel off 10%, 15% of the black vote. Because remember something, Cuomo got the black vote over him. He knows that. He's a clever politician. But let me just close by saying this. This is default in my estimation. It is a fault, because this is just a desire. We got eight years of. This guy's gonna be nothing left in New York. This is the fault of the teachers.
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Dana Perino
Yep.
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Greg Gutfeld
Because the kids don't understand that if you just take one look at history, name anywhere, anywhere, a socialist communist regime. And he is a communist, according to all the specific. I could go through it. He tracks to all the communist ideologies. He's talking about seizing the means of production. I mean, that's right out of Marx, but punting on that. The bottom line is, if you look at anybody who inhabits the space he inhabits throughout history, not one has ever succeeded without devolving into a dictatorship. China, Russia, Cambodia, Cuba, Venezuela, they're all nightmare regimes. Essentially. New Yorkers of a certain age, under 25, completely ignorant, are voting for a guy who is telling them, I am the state. I'm going to make the decisions. You run it. Go ahead. That's what they're doing, Greg.
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Dana Perino
Within about two years of becoming a US Citizen, he was joining protests demanding statues of founding fathers be taken down and calling America a racist country. And that's the kind of thing that really turns people against overall. Like, you get the polarization that gets stronger.
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Zoran Mamdani
Yeah. Also, he's just not deep. No, this is a very shallow person. This guy makes David Hogg look like Margaret Thatcher. And I would. I would be careful on how you criticize him, because you remember the. The Democrats fault with Trump was that they went after him without offering an alternative. So the accusations of Islamism is that. Islamism, Islamism, whatever, it's gonna feed into Islamophobia. Calling him a socialist in New York isn't an insult. It's a virtue signal for the luxury believers. The hard left are gonna flock to the person that we say creates the most harm. And in a low turnout vote, low turnout city, that's all you need. A lot of people are really comfortable in New York, and they're just gonna not, they're not even gonna pay attention. This guy's gonna sneak in. I think you need to explain to these people what socialism is. It's redistribution. To get free stuff, you have to take it from everybody else. So it's theft they're taking from your parents to pay for what? Imagine government run supermarkets. That's. Imagine a 711 that looks like the DMV but with even less goods. The. That's how dismal and depressing it's going to be. So he's the walking breathing definition of the luxury belief. That is the stance that only the elites can endure because the brunt of the policies will destroy the lower class. They can't afford this. So it's easy, like you said, to vote for defunding the police if you have private security. It's easy to promote sanctuary cities when you don't live near the Roosevelt Hotel or you're not competing for jobs, but in which the wages keep getting lower and lower. So I would just for people that don't know this guy, remember it wasn't Daniel Penney he defended. It was the deranged perpetrator, Jordan Neely, a psychopath who threatened to kill citizens in the New York City subway. Who was a violent, violent offender. That's the choice he made. So if you vote for this guy, you're making that choice too. This guy will send New York City back to the swirling muck that it once was in the 70s. But it's not gonna happen with a wide eyed crazy freak. It's a glib polished elite airbrushed by the Soros Foundation. The worst part about it is what do we do? I live in a neighborhood where a woman was nearly murdered around the corner from me by a deranged homeless guy. One guy was murdered two doors for me in the, in last, last. End of the last summer. What, what could happen? Like when do we move? Like when does a company decide that it's no longer safe for its, its, its workers to be here? No, you know, that's a. Because you know what? I love having a career, but I cherish my survival.
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Kennedy
And the blessing you have is you have that option. So many of the people he wants to represent don't have the option to just get up and move out of the city.
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Greg Gutfeld
That's right. What will happen is the people who can afford to do it will pay their way out of it. That's really what I thought.
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Kennedy
The vast majority of people are stuck here and that's what people have to pay attention to.
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Dana Perino
Well, let's see what happens. I also think that both parties are failing to do to provide true economic policy options that give people an opportunity and hope so that they can also realize the American dream. So there's an opportunity there. We have much more to come. Up next, President Trump is racking up wins both here and abroad. And even his critics at other networks are starting to admit it. Hey, guys, Mark here.
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Kennedy
Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy Podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side.
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Greg Gutfeld
Listen and follow now at fox news.
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Zoran Mamdani
Podcast podcast.com.
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Harold Ford Jr.
A midi ceasefire, an empty border and the Supreme Court kicking rogue justices swiftly in the nards. Even President Trump's biggest critics over at cnn, they can't deny that Don is on a roll.
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Greg Gutfeld
I'm talking about offering an objective analysis in view of what's transpired in the last two weeks that I've laid out substantively and with data.
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Kennedy
He's been on a roll.
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Greg Gutfeld
Who among us could deny how consequential Trump 2.0 is turning out to be? But in order for you to recognize.
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Zoran Mamdani
That, you need to have an open.
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Greg Gutfeld
Mind about what's transpiring.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Oh, come on. What good is an open mind? That's no fun. But this dopey Dem watch this closed mind, he still can't bring himself to throw 47 any credit for securing the border watch. You know, border crossings are at a record low. Do you give the Trump administration some credit for that?
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Greg Gutfeld
No, I don't give them credit for that because border crossings are low because they're violating the law every day. They are not allowing anybody to come here to apply for asylum. So it's true there are very few people crossing on a daily basis, but that's because the Trump administration is violating the law.
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Harold Ford Jr.
This is really interesting. You know, Dana, as I watch this, I always think, what advice would you give Chris Murphy? Because, you know, if you're looking at an issue that 80% of Americans think is out of control and this is the outcome that they want, isn't it better for him to admit that and then move on to. And here's how we would make it even better.
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Dana Perino
This is what the thing that I don't understand about Chris Murphy or any other Democrats right now is why aren't they pulling together and saying what could we go to Trump and ask for that we want? Right. Because he's willing to meet with anybody.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
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Dana Perino
And if they Went to him and said, would you work with us on the dreamers? I know, please forgive us. You were going to do it in 2017. We were wrong. We would like to try to do it now. Would you work with us, Mr. President? And we can bring, you know, 45 votes and we think we can get it done. What do you think? Should we make a deal? Like, I don't understand why they don't do that. Because just fighting him isn't working. The fact that Trump's on a roll is not just luck. These pieces have been put in place over time. So last week, yes, huge Supreme Court wins. But also, how did that, also how did that happen? Because in his first term he was able to say, let me work really hard with McConnell and everybody else and get these judges in place. Now, a lot of conservatives might have problems with this justice or this just depending on the case. But overall, I think that the fact that there's a conservative leaning justice, conservative leaning court is serving the conservative party well. It is serving, certainly serving President Trump well. In the meantime, the Democrats have nothing but this new guy. What's the best thing that's happened to the Democrats so far? I think it's a terrible thing. But the only exciting news that they have is Mamdani. Yes. Everything else they have is Biden cover up. They have no policy. They can't get any wins. This big, beautiful bill is going to pass. They've got nothing. The border is secure. And I think the other thing is people are looking at this saying, well, elections really have consequences. If you live at the border.
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Zoran Mamdani
Wow.
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Dana Perino
It's amazing. If you are Jewish and you're concerned about anti Semitism on campus, Trump's got you. You're in Israel and you're worried about Iran having a nuclear weapon. He's got you there too. So think about all of those things that have happened. And if Kamala Harris had won the election, it does make people really focus the mind.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah. And it's hard to imagine what she would have done in any of these situations. But Paul, you know, you're talking about the strike on Iran and then the ceasefire deal. On the heels of that, the SCOTUS wins and NATO actually offering to pony up 5% of their collective GDP in order to do what the President was asking in his first term, where is the biggest win here?
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Greg Gutfeld
You know, I would link them all and it just shows how complex the job of the President is. And let me tease it out. I was talking about last time I was on the show, he went into The Iran thing, knowing that he had the NATO meeting coming up, right? So if you're sitting where he is, he's got to say to himself two things that I'm really at risk here with the Iran strike. First of all, I can't have a B2 with some of our most sensitive technology go down inside Iran because the next day, North Korea, China and Russia have that technology. That's the big risk. So you have to make sure the Israelis cleared the corridor. All right? Secondly, however, you got to make sure that in response, Iran doesn't start lobbing missiles that are going to land inside Baghdad. Why? Because there's a NATO mission there, nmi The NATO mission to Iraq is still there. So if he has to go into the Hague and have a meeting with all of NATO and has to spend all his time trying to justify why there are dead British, German, French, Dutch soldiers, etcetera, you have a very different kettle of fish. So, you know, look, the old saying of fortune favors the bold really comes home here. Give him his due, man. One thing about Donald Trump, he's got stones. He put it on the wall on the line here. He said, we're going to hit this place, then I'm going to go into NATO and I'm going to say, I want the 5%. Now. We should tease it out. A point and a half of that is stuff they should be doing anyway. Cyber infrastructure, et cetera. I think the real point to someone is that the stuff that he's done here and why the week is so consequential, is it's going to outlast Donald Trump. NATO is going to be here. He reconstituted. He was talking about getting rid of NATO first time around. Now you've got NATO more revivified than ever. I mean, that's going to last. Wherever Iran is right now, you can say it worked, it didn't work, et cetera. You know what worked? Iran knows now. We can come again, guys, right? We got those planes, we got a few more of these bunker busters. So this stuff outlasts him. That's why it's a big win. That's why they won't give any credit.
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Harold Ford Jr.
So is, is this luck, all of these things lining up at the same time in the same week to the point where CNN and NPR have to extol the. The virtues of these wins?
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Zoran Mamdani
I'm glad you asked that.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you.
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Zoran Mamdani
Frankly, all these successes bore me one after the other. Oh, my God. But, you know, we've all been to magic shows as kids at birthdays hundreds of magic shows. So when we see a guy show up with a top hat, chances are a rabbit's gonna come out of it. When a magician saws a woman in half, you're not gonna call 911, just wait a minute, she's gonna come back together. But Democrats are like the guy always shocked when he pulls a rabbit out of his hat.
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Kennedy
Literally.
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Zoran Mamdani
They're suffering from this delusional amnesia where they cannot grab grasp. How does he keep doing this? He keeps doing this. If Chris Murphy watched a magician saw a woman in half, he would probably run home and tell his wife the hazards to cutlery are overstated. And then he'd pull out a large knife and go, let me show you honey. That is how stupid they are. Trump never ceases to surprise them with success because it's based on things they are incapable of grasping, which is reasonable incentives. That's the big thing, clear eyed action. But it really is incentives. And you said luck. It's more like what what Paul said. It's convergence. These things seem to be coming together and ideally Dems should be happy for this because it's good stuff for the country, even if they hate the guy that's behind it. But there was this new study that shows that pride among Democrats has hit the lowest it's ever been. What's interesting about that was when Biden was in office, 85% of Republicans were extremely or very proud. So love of country was on a separate rail from our own politics. And that's the problem for the Democrats. If politics isn't going their way, it affects their brains, it affects their emotions, it affects their patriotism, it affects their relationships with other people. They must contaminate all areas with their misery. They have to. Somehow their political disappointment must become everyone's problem. It's a hell of a bag of rocks to carry around all this resentment that they have. If they just took it off their shoulder and put it down, they'd probably feel a lot better and thank me later.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Well, Harold, I would like to thank you later because I think you could take some of Dana's advice and apply it to the next presidential election. Because if the next person who starts to move up the field with the Democrats is someone who isn't, doesn't necessarily talk like a Democrat and is focusing on 8020 issues, don't you think we'd see more success and unity in the country?
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Kennedy
We would. We'd also, as an extension of that, I think Democrats, you have to be willing to call balls and strikes. Paul, I Think you said it well and I think everybody has. And Danny, the way you, the way you open the segment, if you can't give someone success for devastating the terrorist proxies in the Middle east, if you can't give one some success for setting back or putting in demise a nuclear program, we knew the ambition was to hurt Israel, to destroy Israel and destroy us. I think it makes us lack credibility and we actually have really good answers on other things. I think during the last four years when President Biden was in office, the fact that we couldn't talk honestly about the border and it meant that there were real challenges there and real problems there, I think it distracted from some of our other answers. And when we couldn't say that little boys shouldn't be playing a little girl sports, it really damaged us with female voters and for that matter, male voters across the country. We don't like the big beautiful bill. Democrats then offer something different, I've said around the table. Why not just offer the first 50k in income, no taxes, the first 50k for businesses, no taxes. The Trump accounts, the baby accounts. I was actually part of that in Congress 20 years ago introducing that to give every young person, every newborn an opportunity to be invested in the economy and give them a little more. If they don't commit a crime, if they go to jail, if they go to college, be it a two year college or a four year college. If we don't offer innovation and ideas, we're going to lose. I give President Trump credit. You got NATO to get 5%. You got you attacked that mountain and retarded there and set back their nuclear ambitions and you have these proxies devastated and I got to give you credit. You said you'd get something done on the board and you have Democrats talk about the hierarchy of deportations. That's where the country and that's where the division is. But if all we do is say no, no, no, and he sucks, sucks, sucks, we're going to be the ones that are penalized, remember?
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Greg Gutfeld
But Barack Obama attacked the program as well through Stuxnet and everybody took an enormous victory lap. It was the greatest thing since canned beer. And you know what you can never ascertain did it work, did it not work? We know this worked to a certain extent.
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Kennedy
I wouldn't go overboard with the canned beer thing.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Even Hillary wanted to bomb Iran as a Up next, President Trump is naming names on President Autopen. Stick around for it.
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Kennedy
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Greg Gutfeld
So President Trump is naming names on who was operating the auto penny, the Biden White House.
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Zoran Mamdani
I don't think Biden knew what was happening. I think that the autopen is one of the biggest scandals in the history of this country.
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Dana Perino
Who would you like to see come.
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Harold Ford Jr.
In and testify on that?
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Zoran Mamdani
Under I would say Lisa, who was in there.
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Kennedy
Is that the deputy AG at the time?
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Zoran Mamdani
Yeah. Who's Lisa Monaco was a big supporter of Andrew Weissman. These are people that I think are very bad people. They had radical left lunatics working there and they took over that office. They didn't want Biden and then after a little while they realized he's incompetent. This is really a good thing. And they ran that thing.
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Greg Gutfeld
So, Dana, when in doubt, we blame the White House press secretary.
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Dana Perino
I know.
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Greg Gutfeld
So what's your take on KJP on this thing?
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Dana Perino
I think a couple of things. One, usually what you have is not a communications problem if you have a fact problem. And right now what the Biden White House, the former Biden White House has is a fact problem because all of us could see with our own eyes and ears that the messaging was a cover up. The messaging was covering up the situation that we could see. Like for example, when the president was not dancing at this event. When it comes to the auto pen, I don't know. I don't know how long this investigation is going to take. And it feels like it's one of those things. Like it's like just one of the things. We could talk about it for a long time to come. I think that most Americans have come to their own conclusion. And the conclusion is that Biden wasn't all there. Someone was trying to help him. I am interested in this. I'm not so interested in what Corinne Jean Pierre would say because she already said, she said it every day out loud. She said, he runs circles around me at the White House. I can't keep up with him. Okay. So she's already said that one person you almost never heard from in the White House was when Jeff Zients was chief of staff. And that's, in a way that's great, right? That's a very private relationship you have that. You're the closest one to the president, but you're the closest one to the president. You run the schedule. You're the ones who make sure that the cabinet meetings don't happen or that the cabinet meetings are so scripted so that President Biden wouldn't have any problems. I think hearing from him would be interesting. However, I think that he. I think we might never hear from him.
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Greg Gutfeld
Somebody I suspect we may never hear from is Alejandro Mayorkas, who I contend is the guy they should really have on a hot seat. 12 million unvetted, the CHNV program, all of that nonsense saying that they were whipping the Haitian migrants comes out. He knew it was a lie. That's a guy I'd like to see on the hot seat. Harold, you disagree?
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Kennedy
No, I don't disagree with that. The Haitian thing was completely blown out of proportion. I just think when people get elected to the highest office in the land or you get elected to the highest office in your state, which is governor, or in your city, a municipality, a mayor, those are the people that are held accountable. And I believe this administration failed the country as related to the border. Mr. Mayorkas, that was under his purview. But I blame the president because if the president didn't like what Mr. Mayorkas was doing, he would have just fired him. Now just one minute. On Dana's point, I think Dana's right. The messaging was a part of the COVID up. I'm one however, that likes to look forward. But I'm gonna stay here for a moment. I think elections and politics take care of all of these things because if the auto pin actually was used to sign things that we all like, like shut the border down, right? If the auto pin was used to sign executive orders to say make America great again, who cares if Donald Trump is signing it with himself or with an auto pin? Now we know he's signing himself because he holds a press conference. He puts that big, big signature on it. So I think it's the results, which is the point you were making then it's the substance here that was really the challenge as opposed to anything else.
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Greg Gutfeld
The truth of the matter too is that in any large bureaucracy, whoever's at the top does delegate some signing power. I mean, I've seen it myself. I think the issue is generally they know what's being signed. All right. And I think that's really the thing that's going to come out here. Kenny, let me ask you this. Dr. Jill's work husband.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Oh, yeah, creepy.
- [30:11]
Greg Gutfeld
I don't know why I come to you for this, but what's your take on Mr. Bernal?
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Harold Ford Jr.
So Anthony Bernal, he was one of those guys, he was so obsequious and servile. He was one of those guys that just ingratiated himself to the first family because not only did he want to cater to their every need, he wanted to be the only person who was in the inner, inner circle because the circle got smaller and smaller and smaller as Biden went further and further in decline. And if you were in proximity to that much power, you, you had that power. And that's exactly what he wanted. And he used, according to the reporting, very, very sharp elbows and some predatory tactics to keep people in line and to push people out of the way. And he's also the one who is most vociferously not wanted to attend some of the congressional grillings. So now it looks like they will issue a cdn.
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Greg Gutfeld
He's taken off, you know, forgot Brazil someplace. Greg, your take.
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Zoran Mamdani
Well, okay, so we're talking about the political scandal, but I'm more focused on the ambivalence of the news media regarding this scandal. What do you do when it's a journalism scandal? This is act. The journalism scandal, to me is the big, big thing. But then who covers who? You know, who's watching the watchmen, as they say. Yeah, but I mean, the thing is, I'm not an investigative journalism. I rarely leave my house. So. But I mean, this thing is a huge industrial industry black eye. It's, it's, it's the biggest. To me, it's bigger than the White House scandal. When did Joe Biden become completely infirm? Like, what was the, you know, when did it happen? Because his policies were strikingly divergent from the platform of moderation and unity that he ran on. So it happened quickly. And I'm not just so. I'm not just talking about the auto pen. I'm talking about everything. I mean, can a person with dementia or diminished capacity understand the general nature and consequence of the things he's actually signing? Remember what he called the inflation Reduction Act? He kept calling it the climate bill. The climate bill, the climate bill. It was almost a trillion dollar boondoggle. How can, isn't it possible that we could undo this crap if he wasn't even aware of what he was Physically signing pardons. Yeah. The pardons. Who Pardoned Hunter. Hunter. Pardoned Hunter.
- [32:35]
Greg Gutfeld
No. Yeah, I know. You're absolutely. You know, in a lot of ways, the media was on Otto Pen as well.
- [32:38]
Dana Perino
Yeah.
- [32:39]
Greg Gutfeld
Ahead, actor Jason Bateman is trashing Trump voters as clueless.
- [32:55]
Kennedy
Psst.
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Zoran Mamdani
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Greg Gutfeld
Cash, your payments are private by design.
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Zoran Mamdani
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- [33:08]
Dana Perino
Messages right in the conversations you're already having.
- [33:10]
Greg Gutfeld
Or with tap to Cash, pay someone.
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Zoran Mamdani
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Greg Gutfeld
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Zoran Mamdani
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- [33:27]
Kennedy
Any kind of fool could see actor Jason Bateman is accusing Trump supporters of being shut off from the truth. Watch this.
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Zoran Mamdani
You have to make a real effort to stay insulated from the facts and common sense. I joked earlier about the Trump show I'm addicted to. I really am fascinated. I can't stop watching and marry that to the fact that there are 80 some million people that would vote again for him tomorrow.
- [33:58]
Kennedy
Mr. Gutfeld, you've been away for a week. I think you're wanting to say something here.
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Zoran Mamdani
Well, Jason shouldn't be talking about us. He should be talking about his sister, Justine Bateman, who has emerged as the clear eyed, clear thinking sibling in this family, a defender of common sense and understands the Trump voter. She understands there are other people out there. He doesn't have to watch Fox. We don't need him. We do well without him. Talk to your damn sister. She could straighten you out in 90 minutes. My guess is that when he sees his sister on X, he thinks she's operating in a bubble. She doesn't know what's going on. No, she actually lived in the bubble you're living in and she broke out of it.
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Kennedy
Kennedy, counterpoint or support that point?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Greg, how dare you? I just want to say, Jason, Jason, you're an actor. Okay. Thank you so much, dear. Now go ahead and shut your pretty mouth until someone writes some words, and then you can open your mouth and say someone else's words. Until then.
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Zoran Mamdani
Shh.
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Kennedy
Paul, as an encore to that, what's your message to Mr. Bacon?
- [35:07]
Greg Gutfeld
Okay, Hollywood, we don't care. We don't care what you think. All right? Perform, Entertain us. That's it. Juggle. Tell a joke. Do a backflip. Do some damn thing. But we don't care about your political opinions and the idea that an Actor is telling a guy who won the genetic lottery because he's good looking and now memorizes lines or reads off a teleprompter and then goes and pretends to be somebody else. Right. I mean, it's. His job is to be somebody else. And only an idiot would read off of the teleprompter.
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Dana Perino
I'd be on the teleprompter as myself.
- [35:40]
Greg Gutfeld
Anyway, we don't care.
- [35:42]
Dana Perino
Move on.
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Greg Gutfeld
That's it.
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Dana Perino
I would say this. He uses the word insulated.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
Okay. Who was the most insulated of last year? It was Joe Biden. And so they don't know why 80 million people would have voted against him. You're the insulated one.
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Zoran Mamdani
You're a moron.
- [35:55]
Dana Perino
Yeah, yeah.
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Kennedy
Look, I think everybody's entitled to their opinion.
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Zoran Mamdani
I don't. I'm against that, Harold.
- [36:01]
Kennedy
And I think they can share it, but you also have to be willing to take it. Take, you know, take it back. And I think that to your point, I think there's a lot of families who are having these conversations and it's obvious this conversation is happening with higher family.
- [36:11]
Dana Perino
Four seasons of Ozarks and I still don't understand money laundering.
- [36:14]
Greg Gutfeld
So give it five years, try again. AI is going to do all of this. We'll never have to deal with these people again.
- [36:20]
Kennedy
That guy's a good actor, though. Jason David, the Fastest is up next. You might take some something for you.
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Harold Ford Jr.
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- [36:39]
Greg Gutfeld
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- [36:40]
Harold Ford Jr.
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- [36:52]
Kennedy
Welcome back.
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Zoran Mamdani
Gen Z is driving bartenders nuts because they slam their tabs shut after every drink. Harold, tell me what you think about this and I'll pretend to listen.
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Kennedy
I could care less. But I'll tell you this. I. I think it's important that these young people get out and socialize. And sometimes you socialize by having a cocktail and they get conversations going. So if it means they got to pay itemization of one by one, so be able to just get out and make friends and be social.
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Zoran Mamdani
I have a theory, Kennedy. This has to do with. They're on dates with people that they just met. They don't want to get around somebody too long. So they could just split.
- [37:27]
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes. And they also, you know, they say, I want to make sure I don't spend too much at the bar. It's like, then go home and drink Zima.
- [37:34]
Dana Perino
You know, it's like Oh, I like Zima. Don't go to a Zimza.
- [37:36]
Zoran Mamdani
There is no Zima anymore. No, there isn't.
- [37:39]
Dana Perino
A few years ago, we found some. I mean, no. Because we brought it up on the show and the producers never had it.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
This is what I think. What they're afraid of commitment.
- [37:50]
Zoran Mamdani
Yes. There you go.
- [37:52]
Dana Perino
They just. They're like, let's just take it one.
- [37:54]
Kennedy
Or they could be broke.
- [37:56]
Dana Perino
That's probably true. Mom Darnny will offer them free drink.
- [37:58]
Zoran Mamdani
Can you blame this on Joe Biden? Paul?
- [38:00]
Greg Gutfeld
Isn't Gen Z too young to drink? What's going on there? What is Gen Z actually? Does anybody care?
- [38:05]
Dana Perino
Who do you know, Kate?
- [38:06]
Greg Gutfeld
They're a really non fun generation. Every time I see they're miserable.
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Zoran Mamdani
I love Gen Z.
- [38:12]
Greg Gutfeld
You know, Kate's like, you from what I.
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Zoran Mamdani
No, no, no. They voted for Trump.
- [38:16]
Dana Perino
Yep.
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Zoran Mamdani
Gen Z was fro Tony, especially the boys. Yeah.
- [38:20]
Greg Gutfeld
So let's be clear about it. All right?
- [38:22]
Zoran Mamdani
So that's what happens when you run out of time. One more thing. Up next.
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Greg Gutfeld
Good news for working family.
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Dana Perino
Time now for one more thing. Hey, I have a podcast with Speaker McCarthy today, but it's also my mom's birthday. Happy birthday to my mom, Jan Perino. She is an age that I will not name, but it's a great age and she's great. So happy pickleball playing and all that.
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Zoran Mamdani
All right, Greg, you should buy her some sleeves. Hey, so tonight I'm back for my show. Joe DeVito, Jamie Lissow, Cat Tim Tyrus, all the regulars there. So I feel comfortable I can slide right back into that hot tub. Do this. In your face, Harold. So, Harold, while you're doing whatever you do and God knows whatever it is we don't want to know, Harold from the TLC show, Match Me Abroad. It follows single Americans searching for a chance at love overseas. Oh, Harold is going on a mock date, and it's very, very awkward. He's trying to find a woman in Singapore. And I just, you know, he's not as smooth as you and he's very nervous and he's kind of shiny. And he ordered, you know what he ordered for his first drink? 2% milk.
- [39:44]
Dana Perino
Is he wearing suspenders?
- [39:45]
Zoran Mamdani
I don't know. The fact that we don't know suspends all of us.
- [39:49]
Dana Perino
Yeah, I'm suspended.
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Kennedy
Bless his heart. To my new pals, Dick and Brad on the west coast. Thank you again, the U.S. men.
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Zoran Mamdani
Thanks, Brad.
- [39:57]
Kennedy
The U.S. men's National Soccer team came out on top after a grueling 120 minute battle against Costa Rica on Sunday night.
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Zoran Mamdani
No one cares.
- [40:05]
Kennedy
With the match tied at 22 after extra time, the teams were pushed into a 10th penalty shootout. 20 year old Damian Downs, one of my kids favorite players, now delivered the final goal clinching the win. Here we go.
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Zoran Mamdani
Wow.
- [40:16]
Kennedy
And sending the U.S. to the Gold cup semifinals. Greg loves this. The U.S. will face Guatemala and Saint Louis on Wednesday. You go boys.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Kennedy, they're still in because World Cup's here next year. Awesome. All right. Just two good old boys never mean it no harm.
- [40:34]
Dana Perino
Oh, I like this one.
- [40:35]
Harold Ford Jr.
Somerset, Kentucky stuntman recreated the Dukes of Hazzard. The General Lee jumping 150ft over a fountain. And he landed it. He nailed the landing. Wasn't even Bo and Luke driving.
- [40:50]
Zoran Mamdani
Did they have the Confederate flag on that car? I'm just asking for some concerned friends.
- [40:55]
Dana Perino
We'll find out. All right, Paul.
- [40:57]
Kennedy
I love that car.
- [40:58]
Greg Gutfeld
Scooby Doo, where are you? Apparently robbing a store in Alabama. Around 3:45am last Sunday, a man in a full Scooby Doo costume broke into a quick stop in Tuscaloosa. Al yada yada yada, he stole something from the place. All I can say is this. That may be unusual in Alabama, but were you to have done that in New York City and walked out waving a gun, nobody'd even notice. Let me just finish by just noting that I have a straw in my drink.
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Kennedy
Yes, he does.
- [41:24]
Greg Gutfeld
I'm wearing salmon and I'm crossing my legs. I'm breaking every Jesse man Lauder who made Jesse Waters man king. That was out of the rumor.
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Dana Perino
He is self appointed, that is for sure. Well, that's. That's it for us.
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Greg Gutfeld
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