Immigration Blow

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Immigration Blow" – The Five (June 30, 2026)

Overview

In this episode of "The Five," the panel discusses a Supreme Court decision reaffirming birthright citizenship in the United States, with particular attention to the implications for immigration policy, national identity, and political dynamics. The conversation then shifts to the growing influence of Democratic Socialists within the Democratic Party, the Supreme Court's decision on transgender athletes in women's sports, France's response to climate issues and air conditioning, and lighter fare about fashion trends and viral news bits.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Supreme Court Upholds Birthright Citizenship

Theme: The constitutionality and political fallout of the Supreme Court's decision against President Trump's executive order to limit birthright citizenship.

• Decision Recap: The Supreme Court reaffirmed (6-3) that children born in the U.S. are citizens, regardless of their parents' immigration status.
• Panel Reactions:
  • Dana Perino: "The constitutional question is settled... the ball is in Congress’s court to change it." (02:23)
  • Kayleigh McEnany: Emphasizes a textualist perspective, arguing the 14th Amendment wasn't intended to apply to foreign nationals visiting or present illegally. She criticizes the majority’s interpretation: "Do you think the framers... envisioned 4.13 billion new citizens? Potentially? ...It is totally ludicrous." (09:06)
  • Harold Ford Jr.: Expresses disappointment with the ruling and the perceived threat of "anchor babies" and birth tourism: "Alito said we blew it... Now the Chinese communists could take their pregnant wife to Guam, have a baby, fly the baby back to Beijing with a US passport..." (03:29)
  • Greg Gutfeld: Stresses the process for constitutional change must go through Congress, not executive order: "No President ...has the right to unilaterally change the Constitution because he feels it necessary." (07:15)

Notable Quote:

• "[T]he founders of our country did not endow one man and will one day, say one woman with the authority to disavow the Constitution. What they did was they set up a process." – Greg Gutfeld (07:15)

Timestamps:

• Decision recap and reaction ([00:07]–[05:20])
• Legal and historical debate ([07:15]–[11:29])

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2. The Political and Cultural Impact of Birthright Citizenship

• Birth Tourism: Concerns raised about why other countries don't grant birthright citizenship and worries about demographics changing through "anchor babies."
• Congress vs. Courts: Panel largely agrees any change must come legislatively, not via executive or judicial fiat.
• Partisan Dynamics: Assertions that Democrats benefit politically from looser birthright citizenship rules.
  • Jesse Waters: "Democrat Socialists... they like it for money and power. So obviously we have to agree with the court's decision..." (04:10)

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3. Democratic Socialists' Growing Influence

Theme: The Democratic party's internal struggle with the rise of socialist-leaning candidates.

• Recent Events: New York socialists holding rallies and unseating incumbents.
• Concerns:
  • Dana Perino: "They're not making the tent bigger, they're making it more narrow... What the Democratic Socialists are doing is using the Democratic Party..." (14:18)
  • Jesse Waters: Compares the "big tent" approach to a "tree saying, termites welcome," warning against lack of boundaries in political coalitions. (16:06)
  • Harold Ford Jr.: Calls for an "admission fee" for party membership, meaning basic patriotic loyalty and belief in the country’s greatness. (19:07)
  • Kayleigh McEnany: Notes only a handful of Democrats are calling out these radical elements: "You can really count... a dozen or so Democrats calling this out fervently." (21:00)

Notable Quotes:

• "If everyone is welcome, including the people who wish to destroy you, then what is the point of a tent? ...You invite a male rapist into a women’s shelter... But then a woman gets raped and murdered..." – Jesse Waters (16:06)
• "For those who are not and those who want to come into the Democratic Party, there has to be a little bit of an admission fee. And that fee has to be, you understand, that the country is great and our job is to try to make it greater, not burn it down." – Harold Ford Jr. (19:07)

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4. Supreme Court Decision on Transgender Athletes

Theme: The court upheld state bans on biological males competing in women’s sports.

• Summary: A 6-3 decision, with Justice Kavanaugh writing for the majority, supports states' rights to protect female athletes.
• Panel Reactions:
  • Dana Perino: Prairie the decision as common sense, especially after vivid testimony from athletes affected by trans competitors. (23:55)
  • Kayleigh McEnany: Praises Kavanaugh’s opinion and denounces the dissent: "If you can’t define a woman, you shouldn’t be ruling on women’s issues." (30:10)
  • Jesse Waters: Suggests putting trans sports bans on ballots to drive turnout: "I would ...run up the score and get regular common sense people out to vote..." (28:26)
  • Greg Gutfeld: Foresees more court cases due to state-to-state variances, but agrees with the principle that states should decide. (27:27)

Notable Quote:

• "Men and boys with gender dysphoria are not women or girls, even if they believe they are." – Justice Thomas, cited by Dana Perino (25:01)

Timestamps:

• Supreme Court and trans athlete debate ([23:55]–[30:41])

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5. International: France and Air Conditioning amidst a Heat Wave

Theme: France blames the U.S. for climate change and suffering from lack of air conditioning.

• Paris Deputy Mayor Blames U.S.: Quotes blaming America's high air conditioning use for France’s heat woes.
• Panel Responds:
  • Dana Perino: Mocks France’s resistance to practical climate adaption: "They’d rather their people suffer and die and their kids... you can’t think straight when it’s this hot." (31:45)
  • Jesse Waters: Points out that political elites have A/C: "The political leaders aren’t sweltering in France when they have those swanky conferences." (33:10)
  • Harold Ford Jr.: Highlights how China is omitted from the blame despite emitting far more greenhouse gases. (34:00)

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6. Lighter Segments: Fashion Trends & Viral Stories

• Men's Fashion: The rise of "bedazzling" is dismissed by the male panelists as more of a media fiction than a genuine trend. (36:20)
• “One More Thing”:
  • Fiona the hippo update (38:09)
  • McDonald’s fried apple pie returns (38:44)
  • Viral video of a bear in a car (39:19)
  • Dallas Fire Department welcomes Norwegian soccer team (39:46)
  • John Fetterman’s state fair booth (40:06)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Birthright Citizenship:

  • "This is demographic destruction." – Jesse Waters (04:10)
  • "Do you think the framers ...intended for 4.13 billion women in the world to have the right to come over here, give birth and become a citizen?" – Kayleigh McEnany (09:06)

• On Democratic Socialists:

  • "If everyone is welcome, including the people who wish to destroy you, then what is the point of a tent?" – Jesse Waters (16:06)
  • "There has to be a little bit of an admission fee [to be a Democrat] ...understand that the country is great and our job is to try to make it greater, not burn it down." – Harold Ford Jr. (19:07)

• On Trans Athletes:

  • "Men and boys with gender dysphoria are not women or girls, even if they believe they are." – Justice Thomas, cited by Dana Perino (25:01)
  • "You shouldn’t be ruling on women’s issues" [if you can't define ‘woman’] – Kayleigh McEnany (30:10)

• On Air Conditioning & France:

  • "They’d rather sweat than look ugly [than use AC]." – Parisian tour guide, retold by Harold Ford Jr. (33:44)
  • "No one’s taking our air conditioning because we got the guns." – Jesse Waters (33:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Birthright Citizenship Debate: [00:07]–[11:29]
• Democratic Socialists and Party Identity: [12:26]–[22:26]
• Transgender Athletes Ruling: [23:55]–[30:41]
• France, Heat Waves, and Air Conditioning: [31:08]–[35:34]
• Men’s Fashion/Fun Segments: [35:56]–[37:30]
• One More Thing (Viral News): [37:48]–end

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Tone & Style

The episode is marked by the panel's characteristic mix of fiery debate, sarcasm, political partisanship, and occasional humor. Sharp, sometimes hyperbolic commentary characterizes exchanges—particularly when discussing the Supreme Court, Democratic Socialists, and “culture war” issues.

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For New Listeners

This episode provides a comprehensive, at-times contentious debate over the meaning of citizenship and the boundaries of party orthodoxy in American politics, interwoven with lighter cultural critiques and some personal anecdotes. The Five's trademark style of lively, pointed banter and unapologetic opinions is prevalent throughout.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

For the.

[Jesse Waters]

Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld along with Kayleigh McEnany. Harold for Jessie Waters and she once spent a week trapped under a walnut. Dana Preno Defy forgot the G. Flatters. Anchor babies are here to stay. The Supremes ruling against President Trump's order limiting birthright citizenship, reaffirming that kids born in the US Are citizens regardless of their parents immigration status. Trump says it's too bad for our country and is calling on Congress to pass legislation. But the libs won't be satisfied until all of America gets turned into a foreign maternity ward.

[Dana Perino]

This Supreme Court could not have ruled

[Kayleigh McEnany]

any other way and held onto its

[Greg Gutfeld]

legitimacy as the nine supreme members of the judicial branch.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

The 14th amendment was put in place,

[Dana Perino]

I think in a way to save us from ourselves and our worst impulses,

[Greg Gutfeld]

not to save a country from. For people like Justice Cavanaugh, there are folks who are doubling down on the idea that this, this country must be a white republic.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

You have a bunch of people who fetishize history. Maybe the issue isn't so much that the Constitution needs to change, but that the people interpreting the Constitution need to change.

[Jesse Waters]

And now get ready for a migrant baby boom. Nearly 1 in 10 births in the US in 2023 were to unauthorized or temporary legal immigrant mothers. Dana, make sense of this.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Is this.

[Jesse Waters]

I mean, I. The vast majority of the countries on Earth, 150 plus, don't have birthright citizenship. That includes Africa, Asia, Europe, the Middle East. They do. They don't have it because they need to control immigration and birth tourism, preserve their natural and cultural identity and they have resource concerns. These are all the same things we have.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, but even if they had, wouldn't matter.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

Because people want to be here. Why do they want to be here? Because it's the best country. Happy?

[Jesse Waters]

250.

[Dana Perino]

So this is a decision that's a little bit hard for people to swallow. And I do think that even when President Trump went to the argument, he knew it didn't go well. And now there was a possibility that the court could have just ruled on the procedural grounds and sent it back and like left the constitutional question open. But that's not what they did.

[Jesse Waters]

Right.

[Dana Perino]

The constitutional question is settled. And so the president, I think initially he said, okay, then we'll go to Congress and try to get it done. Now that is the proper way to do it. And that would actually work in particular. Like, for example, if you were to say on birth tourism that that in particular is illegal, you might be able to actually get that passed?

[Jesse Waters]

I would hope so.

[Dana Perino]

Well, I don't. I mean, look at these people. Yeah, but if you could make the case that the ball and is in Congress's court to change it, we have the power to change it. Who thinks it's a good idea to have the situation that we have with birth tourism?

[Jesse Waters]

Well, Democrat Socialists.

[Dana Perino]

Well, and they maybe we'll have to ask them if they think that's true. But it's wild that 10% of us births are to legal immigrant people who are here. But you cross illegally and then you have your baby and you do it on purpose and you do it as you're in your ninth month. Maybe Congress could do something on that that would be acceptable to the court.

[Jesse Waters]

Jesse, how do you feel about this?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I'm angry.

[Jesse Waters]

Are you?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Alito said we blew it. He said in his dissent this was one of the most important cases the court's ever seen and we blew it. He and Thomas were basically like, yeah, this devalues and degrades U.S. citizenship because it opens it up for anchor babies and for birth tourists. Now the Chinese communists could take their pregnant wife to Guam, have a baby, fly the baby back to Beijing with a US passport, and then that baby, when he's older, can get us welfare, he can vote. Technically, when he's 35, he could become President of the United States. That's the stupidest thing anyone ever thought of.

[Jesse Waters]

Literally.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

The guy, the senator who put this out in the 19th century, he said it shouldn't involve foreigners, aliens, or families of ambassadors. Everybody agreed at the time, the guy that sponsored it, the guy that initiated the architect of this 14th amendment, the AG, the president the time, Grant, all said, yeah, no foreigners, no visitors. Well, this was also before airplanes. So no one could imagine enemies of the United States flying here to have babies that 18 years later they could use against us to sway elections, to soak up welfare and then steal our defense technology. Cuz that's what they do, they steal it. So I'm annoyed. And they're using migration as a weapon against us and the court didn't protect us. And the Democrats are in cahoots with this. They like it because they like it for money and power. So obviously we have to agree with the court's decision. Congress not going to do anything about it. And I think the DOJ has to ramp up prosecutions of birth tourism fraud, and Trump's gotta deport even more because this is demographic destruction.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Keep the border sealed.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Right.

[Jesse Waters]

So Harold, you heard all that from Jesse. Do you see it? A little differently.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I see it in some ways similar to you guys. I think Dana said it right from the outset. I like half of what Dana said. This was undeniably clear that this was going absolutely zero where. Because the Constitution, they follow the Constitution. Now, I don't disagree with the sentiment around the table that we've reached a point where citizenship is being manipulated and used in ways that it should not. The way to go about doing this is to go to Congress. A president of the United States can't be elected president, say, there are certain things that people are saying about me. This is not the president today, but there's certain things that people are saying about me. So I'm going to limit. I'm going to write an executive order saying the First Amendment doesn't everybody. It doesn't apply to everybody if they say bad things about me and my party. That's essentially what the president tried to do here. The Constitution speaks clearly about citizenship. Now, separately, I do think there's a legitimate conversation needs to be had about the issues that you raised about people flying here and having babies. For purposes that, let's just say, are not benign or not in our best interest, Congress should have that conversation. Much like the court was exactly right in saying that transgender athletes, that states have a right to regulate this. Justice Kavanaugh said that states and localities are closer to this issue and they should be the ones doing this. That's what the Constitution says in this instance here. If we want to change birthright citizenship. The founders of our country did not endow one man and will one day, say one woman with the authority to disavow the Constitution. What they did was they set up a process. You know, the last time we amended the constitution was in 1992, 34 years ago was around compensation for members of Congress. People were upset about the way they were being compensated.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I think there's vitriol with the last amendment. So Congress members could get paid more.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, to limit the way they could get paid.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Okay, good.

[Greg Gutfeld]

34 years ago. So if we want the outrage around this, this is clear and plain in the Constitution. And I thought Justice Roberts said it best. He said citizenship then and now was the right to have rights to freely participate in our political community. If we want to change that as a nation, we have every right to. And I'm not saying I'm opposed to some of the things that have been mentioned around the table, but we ought to do it the right way. No President, I don't care if his name is Trump. Obama Clinton, Washington, or Lincoln has the right to unilaterally change the Constitution because he feels it necessary. That's why we have a process, and that's why we're celebrating 250 years of excellence here in the next few days.

[Jesse Waters]

Do you buy that interpretation of the Constitution that it was.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

No, no, not. Not at all.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And I'll tell you what do you disagree with.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Wait, can I just ask you, does a mayor of a city have a right to say they'll never accept a Supreme Court ruling?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Of course he has the right, but he can't. They will have to accept it. He has the right to say whatever he wants.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Okay, so.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But he didn't write an executive order.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I'm tired of hearing about this constitutional crisis from President Trump. No, I didn't say that. The mayor of this city, when the ruling came down for temporary protective status, Mamdani said, I will never accept it. Trump, before this ruling ever came out, said, I have to accept it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He was wrong. Was Clinton. Was Trump wrong to say.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Hey, let me finish. Because you incorrectly described the 14th amendment. I agree with the three dissenters, and here is why. When you look at the text of the 14th Amendment, which I have right here in my hand, it says that in order to be a citizen, you have to be subject to the jurisdiction thereof. If you are a woman from China who comes over, you are subject to the jurisdiction of China. That's pretty clearly written in the text of the 14th Amendment. I'm a textualist, though. You go on. And it says that you are subject to the state wherein you reside. If you are a woman from China who comes over to give birth in this country, you are not residing in a state. You are a visitor. It is very clear. The text on the page was. Which is why Thomas got this right. It's why Alito got this right. It's why Gorsuch got this right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's why they were in the minority.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

This is a hugely important decision because it only takes a few brain cells to answer this question. Do you think the founders, or the framers, I should say, of the 14th Amendment intended for 4.13 billion women in the world to have the right to come over here, give birth and become a citizen. Did they envision 4.13 billion new citizens? Potentially? In a theoretical world, no. But that is essentially what the majority is saying today. It is totally ludicrous. That would include children from hostile nations. You think the framers of the 14th Amendment wanted people from China or Russia? We've learned Russia sending People over here to have babies to become US Citizens and then go back and be educated in the CCP. Do we need 1 to 1.5 million new voters educated by the Chinese Communist Party? I think not. But that is the estimate of birth tourism from China alone. John Sower pointed that out in his oral arguments. This was a wrong decision. He it was a very bad one. And Justice Thomas very clearly described this. The intent of the 14th Amendment was to overturn Dred Scott. It was intended to bring citizenship to freed slaves. It was never intended to apply to foreigners traveling to the United States of America. It's a wrong decision. It's a bad one. It won't stand the test of time. And last point, Senator Rick Scott, who I'm growing to like more and more each and every day, said next week the Senate needs to vote on this. They need to codify the Trump agenda on the border. They need to make legislative changes here to ensure that birth tourism ends. This has to change. It needs to change next week. And the lazy Senate that can't get around to voting on the Save America Act. No more excuses. Fix this before the midterm election.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You can't blame Democrats for this because these are Republicans doing these things. Where I agree with Kayleigh is that Congress is where it should happen. The text is what the text is and we have subject to the jurisdiction we have.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

What does that mean?

[Greg Gutfeld]

We have hundreds of years of jurisprudence on this. You can dislike the text.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Okay, so the 4 billion women around the world are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Should they put a toe on our soil? That makes no sense.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That is just like when Democrats argued the Second Amendment never envisioned rifles and guns and semi, automatic, semiautomatic weapons being found in rural and urban America. And people say the Second Amendment is the Second Amendment. We have to change the Second Amendment. For those who want that kind of gun control and for your textual understanding of that to take place, Congress has to pass change to the Constitution.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Maybe we should textualist abiding justices on the Supreme Court who understand text and history and the way Justice I think

[Greg Gutfeld]

they think your position lost six. Three with three conservatives voting with the

[Jesse Waters]

three by the court. I gotta. I gotta accept it. I gotta end this legal brief. My only point is why is it that the people who hate America the most want to make it as easy as possible to be.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

One great question ahead.

[Jesse Waters]

The Dems are pitching a big tent for the commies.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at foxnewswineshop.com with code FNRADIO20 20% discount. Excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31, 2026. Must be 21.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Order to order.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Please drink responsibly. Who's got the power?

[Jesse Waters]

What kind of power?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

When we fight, we win. When we fight, we win. Some Commie chants echoing through New York's ever expanding Commie corridor. The three Democratic Socialists who swept the Big Apple holding a rally earlier as the Democratic Party rolls out a big red welcome mat.

[Dana Perino]

Whatever labels you want to attach to it, whatever she said, I believe that we've got to understand that big tent means big tent.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I'm not afraid of new members or new ideas in the party.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I welcome it.

[Jesse Waters]

That friction, although it might make for

[Harold Ford Jr.]

good, you know, press, that's part of

[Jesse Waters]

being in a coalition.

[Greg Gutfeld]

The reality is we have an unsettled electoral environment, which is going to be the case when Donald Trump is president.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Okay, that was Hakeem preemptively blaming President Trump. If the socialist surge takes Colorado, next, radical candidate Melat Kiros looks to ride the Commie wave into Congress by unseating a longtime Democratic incumbent, which may be difficult, given she thinks Israel deserved October 7th and America deserved 9 11. You've said that the October 7th massacre of Israeli civilians by Hamas fighters was

[Kayleigh McEnany]

the, quote, inevitable consequence of apartheid. Certain conditions lead people to feeling like violence is their only answer. Was 911 an inevitable consequence for America based on US foreign policy? Inevitable in the sense that we destabilized a lot of the Middle East. That forced people to believe that another act of violence was the only response.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

How you doing over there, Harold?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Good. My nose is running.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Okay, I'm gonna go to you next, Dana. So this woman, she doesn't really have a job?

[Dana Perino]

Nope. Well, I mean, that's another. Well, look, start looking at the jobs that a lot of the DSA candidates have had. Again, they sound exactly alike. They use the same cadence, they have the same language, they have studied, they work together. They are super organized that way. What Hakeem is doing and the rest of Democrats are doing is they're not making the tent bigger, they're making it more narrow. And the way that that's happening is that the Democrat Socialists are using the Democratic Party in order to figure out a way. Okay, so let's figure out a way we can take these voters and we can muscle in. And then, like, for example, Graham Platner today, this guy, he is trashing Chuck Schumer up one side and down the other. And then today he says, but I need help because I don't have enough money and you have to help me. And so then Hakeem and Chuck Schumer are going to be in this position. Do they support them? Are they going to. Are they going to cave and probably do that. And look at the incumbents that they're throwing out of office. Goldman from last week at Espalot and the guy we talked about yesterday, well, he's not thrown out, but getting attacked in California, it's not like they are moderate Democrats. They are hardcore progressives. But what's the one issue that they're not solid on that these socialists care about the most? And it's Israel and Jewish people and they are anti Semitic, and that is the strain that is driving it. And if Hakeem and Chuck don't believe that accepting these people into the big tent doesn't mean exactly what, what they're trying to do, they're going to have a rough road of it, regardless if Trump's here or not.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

You know, 20, even 10 years ago, Greg, if you had a member of Congress who's running on America kind of deserved 9 11. I mean, she wouldn't get anywhere near Congress.

[Jesse Waters]

She seemed like she was doing you a favor by answering it. 9 11. I seem to remember that. But I mean, the, you know, the big tent, accepting these people, it's like a tree saying, termites welcome. You know, in order to have a tent, you got to have boundaries. The tent itself is a boundary. If everyone is welcome, including the people who wish to destroy you, then what is the point of a tent? It is organizations and groups, families, they're not just defined by who you are, but who you aren't. We do have certain rules to keep people in and out of things, and sometimes that goes crazy. But we do have, somewhere along the line, boundaries were made a sign of bigotry. But there's a reason for intolerance. You do not tolerate bare feet in a restaurant. You do not tolerate grown men in the Girl Scouts. You do not tolerate the obese in the military. I can't be a Harlem Globetrotter and I can dunk. So does the party have a right to. To welcome anyone when it affects everyone else in that group? Realistic example, you invite a male rapist into a woman's shelter, it satisfies your virtue. Signal, signal. It's a big tent. But then a woman gets raped and murdered, which is what happened in New York. So, again, boundaries exist. So the thing survives. And if you say we're going to let these people in who, who are openly saying they want to destroy America, you are, you're an accessory to the crime. And it isn't a big tent. Like, you're right, there's no pro lifers, there's no pro second Amendment people. It's like a tent with an open flap and the flap is facing the direction of basically patriot, you know, anti, patriotic, anti Americanism. It's interesting that they call themselves Democrat socialists because you could never envision Republican socialists. Like if somebody said, I'm a Republican socialist, you go, no, that's nuts. Why can you envision a Democrat socialist? What does that tell you something about the Democrats?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Harold? Harold, your name was invoked.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So I am as repulsed and disgusted by this young lady's comments. Not as much or as much because I think she wants to be a member of my party or claims to be a member of my party as it is. I think she doesn't understand that if she honestly believes what she just said there about we deserved it. She is saying that a group of people who don't allow, wouldn't allow her to speak the way she's speaking on television. They would kill her. A group of people who wouldn't allow her to dress the way she wants to dress, think the way she wants to think, gain the jobs that she try to gain a job like she wants to gain, and then criticize the state as she has. I think these people, Greg, who, who want to be a part of our tent, I call it the American tent first. And the Republican and Democrat tents are in that big tent. And we may differ on things, but we don't differ on what's fundamental about our country. Kayleigh and I had a conversation, a debate about what the 14th Amendment. We didn't have a conversation about what America meant and whether or not we deserve to have people come to our country and destroy it. For anyone to call themselves a Democrat who believes that America deserved 9, 11, that she's able to say that in a country that she's defending. A group of people who wouldn't allow her to say what she's saying, who wouldn't allow her to be the person that she wants to be and achieve and accomplish the things that she's accomplished. I said it the other day and I'll say it again. They offer no answers. There's nothing constructive. We're the most dynamic, the most innovative, the most creative group of people, economic system and economy in the world at every point at every point in each of the last few centuries, several centuries, America has faced a challenge to whom we are, where people felt excluded. The answer can't be to burn it down. That's what these people are saying. The answer was, how do we work from within with all the tools and assets and resources we have to make the country better? That's what we ought to be doing. And for those who are not and those who want to come into the Democratic Party, there has to be a little bit of an admission fee. And that fee has to be, you understand, that the country is great and our job is to try to make it greater, not burn it down.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Well said, Harold.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yay.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Harold is absolutely correct. But the problem is that there are not enough Democrats that are saying what Harold is saying. I mean, when you look to book Democrats calling this out on your show, as I did last Saturday, you got James Carville, you got Senator John Fetterman, you've got 13 House Democrats that signed a letter supporting Pride in America. You have one other Democrat in Slotkin who kind of tepidly called out this wave of folks in the party and called for new leaders, leadership in the Senate. But you can really count on just more than two hands, a dozen or so Democrats calling this out fervently. And one thing James Carville said to me is, he said, hakeem's going to have to deal with this, meaning Hakeem Jeffries, it's not going away. Hakeem, you need to deal with this. That happened Saturday. And Hakeem's way of dealing with this. One of the most powerful Democrats elected to office now is to congratulate these radicals. He congratulates people like Chevalier, who says communism now sees the means of production. Really. I mean, not only that, you have this Aber Kawas woman who won for the nomination for a state Senate seat in New York, who also has comments not clearly calling out 911 and making excuses for it. This is a pervasive, radical ideology that could very well win in Colorado yet again tonight. And it's becoming very difficult to say this is a New York problem or an LA problem. It is a problem within the Democratic Party. And I really hope we see bold leaders calling this out the way Fetterman has and a handful of other Democrats. It's the only way you get rid of this.

[Jesse Waters]

You can't argue with ignorant and stupid people. That's what I learned in our Bible study. Do you remember that?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I do.

[Jesse Waters]

What was the line about? You don't waste your breath on really Stupid people. I think Jesus said that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Shake it off and keep moving.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, that was not Jesus.

[Jesse Waters]

Those people, they're ignorant of history. They're stupid, but they're ignorant of what America is.

[Dana Perino]

Also, the other thing is, like for her, so Diana DeGette, who she's running, she wants to be Diana DeGet went to Congress in 1997.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I was elected with her.

[Dana Perino]

Okay. So this young woman, I believe was born, like, right around that time. So she was a small child when 9, 11 happened. Also, I believe that she says that she was canceled during a college class because of something she said against Israel. So she has a grudge to fight against. And she got a following because of all of that, but also because they are very organized. They are super organized. Beware.

[Greg Gutfeld]

One of the things these people have is that slights come their way and they somehow another think they're the only people in the history of our country to have had a slight level at them. Go back and read the history of the country. Go back and read how women, how blacks, how people in the south, how people in rural America overcame huge, huge obstacles. They didn't quit and say, burn it down. And that's what I fear. This, this whole effort.

[Jesse Waters]

Read the lyrics to the theme song of Friends as you did the other love life. Toa.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Take it to the next segment. Up next, the Supreme Court just called a foul on men playing in women's

[Kayleigh McEnany]

sp,

[Dana Perino]

A landmark ruling that protects female athletes across the country. The Supreme Court upholding state bans on biological men competing in women's sports. The decision was six to three, believe it or not. Writing for the majority, Justice Brett Kavanaugh said the laws do not violate the 14th Amendment or Title 9, which prohibits sexual discrimination in education. Earlier today, there was a reaction from female athletes. Peyton McNabb suffered a traumatic brain injury after getting a volleyball spiked right in her face by a biological male athlete. And then Paula Scanlon, she was forced to share a locker room with trans swimmer leah Thomas at UPenn. Across the country, there's families, there's, there's

[Jesse Waters]

parents and there's coaches and daughters who are watching this decision being made. And I'm just so thankful that they

[Dana Perino]

get to understand that they are protected and it's okay for their state to protect them, because, I mean, that's all it was. All that they were having to determine is if it was okay if states

[Jesse Waters]

could protect their girls or if it was allowed.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

The adults in the room let us down. And to me, it's really interesting to

[Dana Perino]

see a Supreme Court now agrees with

[Kayleigh McEnany]

what I knew at 19, undressing in a locker room with a 6 foot 4 tall male.

[Dana Perino]

It was kind of believed that it was 6'3 and the 3 being 3 of the women on the court having a question about this. But Justice Thomas said this, Greg, Men and boys with gender dysphoria are not women or girls, even if they believe they are.

[Jesse Waters]

This is the key point. And I had to return my Speedo to target.

[Dana Perino]

I take it back. You already wore it.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, that's true. It's a collector's item on ebay. The fact that we have to consider this a win, that basic common sense had to go to the Supreme Court to settle. Men do not become women because they believe they are anywhere that I can believe that I am black or that you can believe you're an elephant.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Wait a sec, you're not black.

[Jesse Waters]

You can dump just from the. Well, nevermind. Sex is an immutable trait. Amen. But the fact that you had to go to the Supreme Court for clarification is absolutely scary. And again, where did the dissent come from? Three liberal women who spent decades parroting feminist doctrine and then in real life, they choose biological men over biological women. Women again, it goes back to the A block. Or was it the B block? Either One big tent fallacy. You invite men into the tent of women's sports, it's no longer women's sports. The same way you invite communists into the Democrat party. No more Democrats. The idea. The idea that being discriminating is bigoted or intolerant. You shall not tolerate men in women's sports. Tolerance here is not a virtue. In fact, in many places it's not a virtue. When a homeless man is defecating on your porch. You don't have to tolerate that. Spencer Pratt made that clear. You can see how trans, dsa, the border, these are all the same instances where your desire for safety and security and common sense is portrayed as intolerant.

[Dana Perino]

But one thing, though, that they didn't do, Harold, is it's. It basically says that Idaho and West Virginia are okay to keep their bans in place. And there are 27 states, I guess, that have these bans, but there are 23 states that don't. And it could be that a state that's very progressive or very left leaning, if the states are allowed to decide that does. That means that Title 9 then isn't protected, which I don't understand, because Title IX is a federal law. Doesn't that preempt the states? Right, it does.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But what we'll see is you'll have states that because Kavanaugh's decision leaves the door open for localities to make determinations about this. And this is probably not the last case we'll see before the court. I happen to agree with the court's decision. We've said around the table. I don't know. It's a tough, tough one. If you have a child who is curious and is having challenges with his or her sexuality. I don't wish that on anybody. But what I do believe is that those kinds of questions that need to be answered. You can't have boys playing in girls sports. But this is something that we're going to deal with for a while as a society and as a culture. But the court got it right today, and I'm hopeful they continue to get it right on this issue.

[Dana Perino]

Brett Kavanaugh, Jesse was the justice who wrote the opinion. He is a girl dad. He's a former girls basketball coach. And a lot of the dads fought really hard for their girls in this, even when the women who are the adults in the room, as Paula said, didn't stick up for them.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Justice Jackson has two daughters. She voted like an idiot. And then Sotomayor divorced, no kids. Kagan never married, no kids. I mean, I just don't get it. I would do what Bush did in those midterms on gay marriage. I would put trans sports bans on the ballots next election and run up the score and get regular common sense people out to vote and just knock it out. Knock it the hell out.

[Dana Perino]

That's interesting. That's actually. Well, go ahead, Harold.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But you do realize when we did that last time first, I was a victim of that in 2006.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

It didn't work in the long term.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It didn't work in the long term, but it didn't work in the long.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

But the high court's already ruled, so in this case, you're protected.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

All right, Kayleigh. I think that's a brilliant strategy. I love the way Kavanaugh began this opinion. He talked about. Title IX came about in 1972, and the stats he used were fascinating. Title 9. Do you know how many girls there were in high school Sports? There were 300,000 girls in high school sports. How many boys? There were 3.6 million. And he talks about Title IX and Title 9 comes into place, and now we have 3.5 million girls in high school sports. Title IX made a difference. It empowered women, which is why it is so mind blowing that three liberal women want to take us back to 1972 where you had 300,000 high school girls playing high school sports. It's inconceivable. Kavanaugh then states the obvious, which I love. The differences between men and women, among other things, height, weight, strength, speed, endurance, jumping ability, which put women at safety risk. It's common sense. He then goes on to say there's 27 states that ban this. You have the International Olympic Committee, the US Olympic and Paralympic Committee and the ncaa. He is exactly right. I love the way he laid it out. It was brilliantly done. And the final question I just have is Ketanji Brown Jackson. She should have recused herself from this case. She was asked to define a woman and she said she's not a biologist. If you can't define a woman, you shouldn't be ruling on women's issues. And then the ACW ACLU lawyer, when she was asked to define a woman, she said we do not have a definition for the court. So what idiocy it is to show up at the court, argue a case about women and not even have a definition for the court. Should have been nine and oh, it was six to three. But well done Justice Kavanaugh and this beautifully written opinion.

[Dana Perino]

All right, coming up, France declares war on air conditioning. We'll tell you all about it when we come back.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Europe is waging war on good old fashioned air conditioning even as a deadly heat wave rips across the continent, linked to to around 1,000 deaths so far this summer. But Paris Deputy Mayor Audrey Pulvar is actually trying to blame the United States. She said, quote, has the second largest emitter of greenhouse gas emissions in the world. You bear a significant amount of responsibility for global warming and the consequences we in France are experiencing. Your city's 90% air conditioned are not unrelated to this. In Paris, we take responsibility. Dana, she needs to read the op ed from the New York Times. Democrats do not have to campaign on climate change. And well, right.

[Dana Perino]

I mean she hasn't kept up with the news in the last several years. The science, so called science settled. Science has been debunked and there is a technology and a tool and a resource that's available around the world that could actually alleviate their problem. But they want to be sweaty and dirty and smelly. As you mentioned, Bjorn Lomborg has been trying to tell them for just adapt, just have a hybrid model, maybe try something else. But they don't. That they would rather their people suffer and die and their kids. You can't think straight when it's this Hot. You can't learn. What about their productivity? And they want to. What they really want to do. What she was so close to doing is she wants to blame Trump. She's this close.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

That's the motive. I know you have some brilliant thoughts on Parisian air conditioning, Greg.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, it is funny that she is blaming the United States for suffering, but her policies have led to 175,000 heat related preventable deaths in Europe. She has blood on her hands. And in that wonderful hair, I might add. The interesting thing is the overwhelming majority of heat deaths are 65 plus, with a sharp rise in 80 plus. This is a way for Europeans to unload the elderly and blame it on climate change. It's not their fault. They go away with great stock photos there, people, you know, I love how they always blame us for our guns. Man, you got. You guys don't have guns and you don't have air conditioning. Perhaps there's a connection there. No one's taking our air conditioning because we got the guns. By the way, air conditioning is available if you're wealthy. The political leaders aren't sweltering in France when they have those swanky conferences. They have air conditioning as well as private jets. You know, this is a crime against humans who cannot afford what the rich afford.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Jesse, could you be found bathing in the Parisian pools during your trip?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Yes. I actually wore Speedo when I was in Paris. It's funny that you mentioned my trip to Paris, Caleb, because I asked my tour guide, why doesn't anybody have ac? And she said putting little units in every window of these beautiful buildings is not aesthetically pleasing. And they said they'd rather sweat than look ugly. And so fine. That's why you guys are hot, because you don't like the looks of the AC units. Now, you know who she didn't mention? She said second biggest emitter. She didn't mention China, who emits 30% of all these gases. Our numbers are going down. Theirs are going way up. I actually did some research for this.

[Jesse Waters]

No, don't do that.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I know, I know, I know. I had someone do it for me. Greg, hotter years. 1757, I believe that was pre industrial revolution. 1540. Or how about 1139? That's the 12th century, Harold. The rivers cracked dry like the Seine. The Seine? What river is that? It was dry. It was so hot. There was so much of a drought. There was no river in Europe, okay? It's been hotter before. It had nothing to do with ambitions.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah, well, if aesthetics is the reason, Harold, those men in the speedos are not aesthetically pleasing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Look, we've reached a low in politics everywhere. All people want to do is blame, blame, blame. Instead of figuring out how to solve, solve, solve. To blame the American economy on the challenges that you're facing there in France may make for good politics there, but it doesn't make it any cooler for people there in Paris and France. So I take it from the greatest correspondent I know that have been that I know that's been to Paris in a while, my friend Jesse Waters. It's a beautiful city, but get some air conditioning and stop blaming us.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah, good advice. All right, well, coming up next, why are men sparkling more. Oh, look at that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

His bling. The new way to show off your masculinity. According to the Washington Post, men's fashion is having a bedazzled moment. There's a growing demand for a little more sparkle in men's streetwear, with dudes rocking everything from rhinestone jeans to sparkly jackets, shirts, hats, and even shoes. Prime time. Is this something we should expect to see tonight on Primetime?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

What is this, Pride month on the 5? What are we doing here, guys? There is no bedazzling moment. I mean, do you know anybody with rhinestones on their jackets?

[Jesse Waters]

This is the worst story we have ever done. I'm in 15 years, I'm in embarrass

[Harold Ford Jr.]

that we're doing this story.

[Jesse Waters]

I sat down at my desk and I'm going, like, do I even read this article? Why are we doing this? There's no men's fashion. A, there's gay men's fashion. I get that. But there's no men's fashion. There's no bedazzling moment. You know, we sit the same media that tells us people can't afford homes the next day. Tell us about people buying restored SUVs and bedazzled jeans. It's all bullshit.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Kaylee, your thoughts on this Bedazzling belongs nowhere near men's fashion. I'm glad Jesse confirmed that Speedo and that Parisian fountain was not bedazzled.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I didn't look that closely. Dana couldn't take her eyes off that Speedo.

[Dana Perino]

I mean, I was looking on Greg's shoulder like, wow, if only it had rhinestones.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I might have had a thing at the table.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Have you bought Peter any rhinestone jeans?

[Dana Perino]

Oh, absolutely. Wait till he sees that on the Fourth of July. It's gonna be cool.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Nice.

[Greg Gutfeld]

One more thing.

[Jesse Waters]

For one more thing. I go first tonight. We got a great show. Timf Lissow, Campano tyrus, tonight at 10. Hey, we haven't done this in a while, so let's do it. Sexy Hippo news. Roll it, Sven.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

Look at that, huh? You know what that hippo's name is? Fiona.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Oh, that's Fiona.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Fiona.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

She's a herbivore. She eats plants. 80 pounds of plants daily. She's nine years old, of pure sensuality. Bottle fed as a baby, but has since thrived.

[Dana Perino]

She's famous.

[Jesse Waters]

She is famous. Fiona.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's Fiona?

[Dana Perino]

Yeah. I haven't seen her in a while.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

All right, Jesse, can I do mine sexy?

[Jesse Waters]

Yes.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

We got a feeding frenzy.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

McDonald' bringing back an American classic fried apple pie.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Ooh.

[Jesse Waters]

With signature filling. Yeah. 100% grew apples. Crunchy, flaky fried crust. Bring it back. Golden arches. Arch it.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Nope. Steve Evan Miller, Lydia Moynihan, Will Payne and Katie Zagaria.

[Jesse Waters]

Dana.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, check out this video. The Colorado man walks out of his house over the wall. It's a bear in his front seat, but this is what he did. Check out what he does. You guys should see you cut the video, don't you? Hang on. Oh, my gosh. The thing is, that's funny about the video is that after he opens the front door, the first thing he does is pull his camera out to take a video. And that was the point of the. One more thing.

[Jesse Waters]

I have to tell them this.

[Dana Perino]

I thought that was the point. Okay. Anyway, it's funny.

[Jesse Waters]

All right, Harold.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Viking Rose officially taken over. Check this video. Dallas Fire Department welcoming the Norwegian soccer team there at the airport. And it helped them. They won the day. 2 1. Norway won their first knockout round a match in a long time. Holland scored. Newsom scored. And congrats to have Ford in your grades, young fella.

[Jesse Waters]

All right, that's creepy. All right, kayleigh, you got 15 seconds.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yes. Pennsylvania refused to build their booth at the Great American State Fair along with other states. But Senator John Fetterman's team sent me this. From Senator McCormick's team. They partner with local businesses and they built this. Good job, fetterman.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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