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Emily Compagno
Hello everyone, I'm Emily Compagno along with Rosanna scotto, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the fight.
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Donald Trump
Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings more than anything else and he said a horrible thing about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk. And Jimmy Kimmel is not a talented person. He had very bad ratings and they should have fired him a long time ago. So you know, you can call that free speech or not. He was fired for lack of talent.
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Emily Compagno
President Trump laying into Jimmy Kimmel after ABC suspended his show indefinitely. Kimmel falsely tried to claim that Charlie Kirk's killer was MAGA despite a mountain of evidence pointing to his left wing ideology. Here are those comments.
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Harold Ford Jr.
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie.
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Emily Compagno
Kirk as anything other suspension, breathlessly claiming that free speech was under attack.
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Harold Ford Jr.
This is just the latest chapter in Donald Trump's ongoing campaign to crack down on free speech.
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Emily Compagno
We saw the government step up and give a hard shove and then we saw a compliant company turn around and suspend Mr. Kimmel.
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Harold Ford Jr.
This is so serious, Aaron.
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Greg Gutfeld
America is a less free place if late night comedians cannot do and say what they want.
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Harold Ford Jr.
When I see you are wearing a hat, what does that hat say? You're damn right I am John. I was a guest on the Jimmy.
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Greg Gutfeld
Kimmel show this moment.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Know that our democracy is on the.
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Emily Compagno
Line, but they fail to tell you the whole story and how Kimmel's suspension was decided by the market. The move by ABC came after nexstar and Sinclair, two major players who own a ton of ABC affiliates across America, preempted his late night show with nexstar saying that the comments don't reflect the, quote, spectrum of opinions, views or values of the local communities in which we are located. Kimmel reportedly wasn't going to apologize for lying about the suspect. Instead, he planned to claim that he was taken out of context. Ah, the old out of context defense. Greg, listen, is this indeed impinging on free speech or is this just accountability for what someone says?
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Harold Ford Jr.
It could be a little everything, but it's great. Even in death. Death, Charlie keeps winning debates. You know the media. This is what's disgusting. Just, just look at the reaction. The media is trying to make Jimmy Kimmel into their Charlie Kirk. But as if like getting fired is the same as getting fired upon. That's what disgusts me is how they're trying. They're in a. This is a blatant effort to get the stink off them. The decades of brainwash that created justification for violence and for murder. Sorry guys, he's not a victim. The victim is Charlie Kirk. The victims are his family. I don't shed any tears for a lefty millionaire who can still go home and see his kids. So look at this through that prism. Jason Bateman predicts a reckoning over Kimmel suspension. Sorry dude, the reckoning began without you. Your side got thousands of conservatives thrown off social media. CNN tried to get Fox off the air. Do you remember that Stelter? That. Don't say that Stelter tried to get us off the air. And we're on a private airwave. We're not in a public thing like ABC is. While they were doing this, they were promoting rhetoric that demonized people with different viewpoints. So there isn't a both sides here. You can't turn Kimmel into Kirk. That is disgusting and I'm going to control myself. Let's look at the obvious here. You have to look at this like mutually assured destruction. Facebook was pressured by the President or the White House to throw people out. Trump was thrown off Twitter. He had Roseanne, Gina Carino, Dave Chappelle, Shane Gillis, J.K. rowling. The list is endless. We could take a whole hour to do it. How do you stop that? Mutually assured destruction. Like what Trump is doing with lawfare. You hunted us. You hunted Republicans, you hunted conservatives. Well, maybe you won't hunt us anymore if we hunt you. Lastly, I am so tired of these self centered fools on CNN and MSNBC with their performative outrage because they will never ever stand outside before thousands of people and debate people who don't like them. They are like me indoor cats they use. Was it Scupp used the phrase systematically killing free speech? A young man was systematically killed over free speech last week. Kimmel has every right and every opportunity to do a live free show outdoors. And so could all those people on cnn, but they don't. If they did, they probably wouldn't get shot because no one is demonizing them. No one is calling them Hitler. That was your gig.
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Emily Compagno
And this wasn't in a vacuum, Jesse. This was in a climate where you have someone who represents a company and instructs half of the country not to watch the show. That's what Kimmel did when he told anyone that voted for Trump to not watch his show. As the President pointed out, his ratings had absolutely plummeted.
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Jesse Waters
So.
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Emily Compagno
So from a boss and market perspective, this wasn't the first time. If he was actually involved in telling the truth, then maybe they would have cut him some slack. But the reality is that his show sucked. No one watched it. And so when he peddles filthy lies, that's the last straw. Not the first.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, it's not about censorship. It's about standards. The country is red hot. Charlie's body isn't even buried yet. And the face of the network goes out and falsely frames Maga as the assassin. That's a flat out lie. It's disrespectful, it's crass, and it puts a target on our back. And there was an affiliate revolt. It's called the marketplace. So Bob Iger at Disney says, yeah, we're gonna put Kimmel on ice because we have a conscience. We have standards here. And it's not like ABC hasn't done this before. They suspended. Whoopee. They suspended Brian Ross. They suspend a lot of people. A lot of people in this business get suspended when we say obnoxious things, racist, sexist, untrue things, unethical things. It's a high wire act. And sometimes we screw up. And he screwed up, so he got benched. Big deal. Sometimes the networks get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. Sometimes they go too far and sometimes they don't go far enough. ABC suspended the reporter who, who was right about Paul Pelosi and they suspended Kimmel, who was wrong about Charlie Kirk. He's not in a martyr. He's a multimillionaire comedian who, if he doesn't want to play in this sandbox with standards, can do a show for millions on Netflix or Apple tv. It is funny though, how the Democrats always defend the crooks, the liars and the snobby millionaires. Whether it's Smollett, whether it's Colbert, this cat Avenatti, or the Maryland dad. They never Defend families or cops or the working man. They are more upset about this guy getting suspended than Charlie getting shot. And they love government censorship. They were applauding when Joe Biden was telling Big Tech to censor us for telling the truth about COVID or telling jokes about Fauci. So everybody needs to chill. He'll probably come back in a few days and Gutfeld will be back to whooping his butt.
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Harold Ford Jr.
True.
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Emily Compagno
And that's the thing, Harold. Courts have held, and we know it better than anyone that hosts our response, responsible for what is said on air by themselves and even their guests. And so for the Screen Actors Guild and the Writers Guild and all these actors to come out and say what a death to democracy moment this is, aren't quite seeing the forest for the trees, that it's actually simply a business and a market who, frankly, made the right decision.
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Jesse Waters
So I slightly differ. Good to be with you and glad to be back around the table. I think a couple things, if you make your living in this world through words, written word, the said word, the spoken word, today or last night might cause you to think differently about where we are. I watched the president today. He, and I give the president the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things. He was on Air Force One coming back from a very successful trip in London. He says they're 97% against. They give me only bad press. He was talking about the broadcast news. People get public licenses. They're getting a license. I would think maybe their license should be taken away. It would be up to Brendan Carr. Now, if you didn't tell me who said that, I would never think that, quote was an American president. Democrat, Republican, whatever. I would think that that sounds like something Putin would say. He took one of our own. Thank God we got him out. Evan. I would think it's something Orban would say in Hungary. I would think it'd be something that the North Korea guy would say. Number two is SNL next. The president, in his quote last night said that NBC ought to be on notice as well. And Saturday Night Live has done some of the great skits. I love that first part of it where they take on the political news of the day. I remember how much they took on Clinton. I was in Congress at the time. I had to think Clinton was probably upset. I laughed about some of the things. Some of the things I didn't laugh about, but it was funny. They took on H.W. bush. There were so many. They took on Ross Perot when he was running. They took on W. They took On.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Clinton, they also got rid of Shane Gillis, which means they made a decision about people they didn't want on the show.
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Jesse Waters
So, Greg, I'd say this to you, brother. If there's a Democrat that gets elected and he or she decides to come after Greg Gutfeld, I will defend you. As much as I'm defending this, I just think this is a. As much as we disagree with what he said, and some of it was not funny, what Jim O. Kimmel said, Jimmy Kimmel said, but there were so many aspects of this that we're not talking about the company nexstar, which is a great company. They're in the middle of trying to acquire a company and the person's going to make the decision about whether or not not they can acquire the entity is the FCC. And Mr. Carr did not run away from that point last night on television. On our great Sean Hannity show, he was quoted last night as said, we can do this the hard way or the easy way. Again, I would think this was a foreign leader saying this, not the United States. So some of this humor I don't like and I don't laugh at some of this stuff at night, but I'm just not convinced that the state should be deciding free press. And more importantly, when Mr. President, when President Trump said he has no tal, he should be off, I didn't realize that the person that would be deciding whether or not talent should be on television would be the president of the United States. There's no doubt people get suspended for things that they say or that they don't say or the way they say it in networks and for that matter, companies have every right to do that. But I would only say to Mr. Carr, who said that these broadcast licenses, that these people have to act in the public interest, and he said they have every right to go get a podcast or go online. Think about this. On most broadcast shows, news shows, the local licenses, they can't have a show for 30 minutes on how to build a Molotov cocktail. You know why? Because it's not in the public interest. They can't tell you how to build a nuclear bomb. You know why? It's not in the public interest. But you can do it here, Mr. Carr, spend some of your time trying to figure out how we regulate these people, how we regulate the radicalization and all of this stuff online that's pummeling our kids and pummeling our society as much as you are this the courts. You're right. Emily will make the determination here. But I Got to tell you, I'm a little alarmed today because I can't believe we're going to allow the government to tell us what's funny, what's not and what's permissible.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Can I just respond? Because there's a couple of things in there that I'm not following. This is a public. It's a public license. Trump can say whatever he wants. But if there is a. If you. If. Look, I think what you're arguing about is the role of the fcc. It has nothing to do with Trump.
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Jesse Waters
That's Trump, sir.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah, yeah. No, but no, I'm talking about the idea. Idea of the fcc. Something that oversees a finite good, which is three networks. It seems kind of irrelevant and outdated, but then you switch over and you start talking about podcasts and stuff. Well, the FCC doesn't deal with that.
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Jesse Waters
Exactly. He said they don't deal with that. That's where he should go. I'm saying the public interest. You cannot on a. I understand how to build a Molotov cocktail.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You know why?
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Jesse Waters
Because it's not in public interest. We used to allow these guys to tell these jokes because we thought the marketplace.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Right.
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Jesse Waters
If you. To watch them or you don't watch.
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Harold Ford Jr.
But I guess what I'm saying is if you want to build a Molotov cocktail and you can't do it on these three networks, that doesn't mean you're being censored. You're going to go off and do it somewhere else. So I'm agreeing with you, Greg.
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Jesse Waters
I'm saying that's what he should be spending his time on. I don't think taking the license. The president said they're getting a license. I would think maybe these are. His words should be taken away. The focus should be. I believe that was. I was just making a Zelata point. The focus should be on these online guys. That's where the danger in the public interest is being compromised, attacked, and I believe being pushed backwards.
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Harold Ford Jr.
But those every day, those are private. They're not public. I don't know how you. But anyway.
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Jesse Waters
Well, the fcc, they still have to approve. I'm sorry, Emily, but if one of these private guys tries to buy a private guy, like they have to be approved by the fcc. That's where he should be spending his time. I think. I didn't mean to.
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Emily Compagno
Still actually doesn't address what's at issue here. Because the president can say what he want, but because this isn't actually an autocracy, the reality is that it doesn't matter. What he says, because the FCC is the governing body. So indeed, if I start running up and down 6th Avenue screaming with my head off and no clothes on, then I'll probably.
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Greg Gutfeld
When is that happening? What time is that?
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Rosanna Scotto
Well, there's the moral contract.
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Emily Compagno
Exactly. So at the end of the day, this is an employee in this realm, guys. And he can indeed start his own podcast.
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Rosanna Scotto
We all have lots of clauses in our contracts and I'm sure Jimmy Kimmel does too. I work. My day job is. I work for a local Fox affiliate. We have.
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Jesse Waters
You're a good job. I'm.
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Rosanna Scotto
Thank you. I've been there a number of times because, by the way, Jesse, I've made some mistakes. Not grand to have me pulled off the air, but what I will say is that there are rules and regulations. We have lawyers come in once a year and kind of refresh everybody's memories on what we're allowed to say. There are boundaries. What Jimmy Kimmel said on the air was false. Even today in the New York Times, and I'm going to quote them, Criminal charges filed on Tuesday portray Mr. Robinson as a left leaning assassin who praised LGBTQ views. They didn't say anything about Magna Maga. He was not part of the MAGA game. But I will tell you this, this is a time where all of us really should kind of take a deep breath. My mother always told me, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say it.
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Greg Gutfeld
We're on cable TV here, but a.
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Rosanna Scotto
Young man was assassinated. Let's turn down the rhetoric a little bit.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I don't think we need to hear that lecture right now. I think right now we're talking about something that is being put on us. So the, the lecture turned down the rhetoric or whatever. It sounds nice, but I'm not going to hear it.
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Emily Compagno
Also, the same people that are right now horrified by this termination were the same people that applauded the instant you question a vaccine or the instant you question government decisions. And that was the government that they were applying. That is actually where they need to think about.
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Harold Ford Jr.
They need. They need to think.
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Jesse Waters
You guys were against that. You guys were. And I was with you.
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Emily Compagno
But now we're payment. That's my point. This is not. This is not question. Okay? But free speech is a different bucket against the government other than just by.
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Rosanna Scotto
The way, the view. They didn't even touch it today on their best behavior and their best and their abc.
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Emily Compagno
All right, guys. Well, up next, the days of burning courthouses and terrorizing communities is over. President Trump labels Antifa a terrorist organization.
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Harold Ford Jr.
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Rosanna Scotto
F1 so do you see F1? Anyway, President Trump is not messing around anymore labeling Antifa as a terrorist organization. And he told Martha McCollum this.
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Donald Trump
We're going to do a big thing with respect to antifa. It's a sick group. I mean, very, very sick group.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You said millions and millions of dollars.
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Rosanna Scotto
Going towards some of these groups for.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Agitation the other day. Who are they?
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Greg Gutfeld
Where's the money coming from?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Is it foreign entities?
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Donald Trump
It's a terrorist organization, in my opinion, and we're going to find out. All those questions are going to be answered.
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Rosanna Scotto
All right, Harold, I was watching Congressman Dan Goldman today said Antifa. It doesn't exist, does it? Do Democrats think it doesn't exist?
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Jesse Waters
I'm a Democrat. I don't speak for all of them, but I think it does exist. I talked a long time in the last segment, so I'm just going to say this. I'm for it, Mr. President, and I hope while you draw that executive order up, you ought to include the Ku Klux Klan as well.
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Rosanna Scotto
Greg, where do you think George Soros fits in?
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Harold Ford Jr.
I don't know. I haven't talked to him lately. I gotta return those calls. He leaves the longest voicemail messages. I think what's amazing is always the media's take on this. For the longest time they were saying speech is violence. That's why they would go after Trump for his colorful sayings. Unless the speech literally encourages violence, whether it's river to the sea or shouting Intifada, then it's suddenly it's just words. It's just freedom of speech. I don't think it was ever really about Antifa. It's about our leaders who shed their responsibility in protecting the community from them in favor of this kind of suicidal empathy that GAD Saad talks about that excused the violent anarchy because we were supposed to empathize with these outsiders. I put Antifa in the same bucket as BLM and Trance and I'll throw in the kkk, Harold, to make you happy, in which they Demand us. Antifa, blm, Trans, kkk. They demanded us to submit to their brand of militant grievance. You know, if you did not agree, if you did not kneel or take a pronoun, you were the enemy. If you said boys are boys and girls are girls, you were a bigot and you got a target on your back. So it's like Antivo is a very small group of losers and miscreants and buffoons. So it's about the leaders, and I'm gonna say this. Nearly all of them Democrats who chose to appease radicals over the saf of Americans because to them it was a virtue signal when it really was just suicide.
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Rosanna Scotto
Okay, Jesse. I mean, how do you think. I mean, like, we've seen a lot of these protests, mostly peaceful, turn into violence at some point, but there was always. You saw, like, some kind of organizational group behind them. I mean, how difficult is it going to be to find out the source of this?
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Greg Gutfeld
Well, you're gonna have to infiltrate Antifa, so you're gonna have to have some sort of transgender FBI agent go undercover for a while. I don't know if they have that at the Bureau. It's a great movie, but they could try it. They've been causing violence and mayhem for a long time, and everyone's treated them like a little nuisance, but they have to be treated seriously. They shot and killed someone out west. They shot a cop. They've punched people in the throats. They've fired commercial grade fireworks in the faces of federal law enforcement. They laid siege to a federal courthouse. They occupy courthouses. They bomb cop cars. They bomb Teslas. They're not very nice people. It's not like they're doing this for health care reform. They want to overthrow the federal government. That's an anarchist. And anarchists, in our history, they've assassinated presidents, they firebombed the townhouses of attorney generals. You got to take these guys seriously. Joe Biden took the threat of white supremacists, domestic terrorists, seriously and investigated them. Surely we can investigate the domestic terror threat from Antifa because the money is suspicious. Where do they get the body armor? Why do they always have the best equipment and technology? Why do they look all tacked out constantly? And then when they get arrested, they have bail money and the best lawyers, so they never, ever face any charges. Who's paying the lawyers? That's what I want to know.
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Rosanna Scotto
You bring up some interesting points. I mean, also, Emily, I mean, a lot of people think, you know, the Democratic Party because they don't have a real leader right now that it's going to be very difficult to find out the source.
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Emily Compagno
Yes, I think. I think the real challenge here is actually the fact that we don't quite have the legal framework for designating domestic terror organizations as we do foreign. And the reality is that our laws addressing domestic terrorism are sort of patchwork. And sure, there's federal within the Patriot act, but it doesn't have the same teeth as the one that we have for designating foreign terrorist groups. And so with that brings a whole host of issues everyone's been talking about, sort of the amorphous quality of that, which means that it's going to be difficult to identify under the parameters of the existing law who actually is leading it but for the funding. And that's exactly what I've been arguing about the cartels is that if you follow the money, then there's a whole host of laws that you can throw behind the laundering and the extortion and the hiding and all of these things and providing the material support. But to me, it's incumbent upon Congress. They have to draft actual legislation that will back up the President's designation because it doesn't automatically flip a switch and kick in the resources that a foreign terrorist designation does. And right now, the resolutions that they have passed in the past, that doesn't have that same lingering effect. It doesn't stick around like actual laws do. So unfortunately for this, because free speech is so protected, all of these guys are going to say, no, that was just me protesting my government. And what body are you talking about? I don't know anything. So we've got to have a more solidified legislative body so that that can be the armor and that can be the teeth that drives this vehicle that the President aims to do. But the bottom line is something has to kneecap this body.
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Harold Ford Jr.
There is one thing missing here too, and that's journalists. There's only one guy, Andy Ngo.
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Emily Compagno
Yes.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Who at great risk to his life, is the only journalist that has kept the spotlight and he's gotten his ass kicked by them. But there's no other journalists that are helping him out.
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Jesse Waters
We should make this a part of the crime bill. Everything you said Congress should pass a crime bill and let this be part of it.
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Harold Ford Jr.
And include the kkk.
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Jesse Waters
Yes, we're gonna definitely pull it.
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Emily Compagno
All of those attorneys are gonna be defending these sick wastes of flesh and they're gonna win in court. So it's up to Congress to combat this and get up on the front lines before they do well.
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Rosanna Scotto
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Greg Gutfeld
These in my Willpowers Me, I've got a.
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Greg Gutfeld
Kamala's new book, Revealing a Bombshell. Turns out Tampon wasn't her first pick for Veep. She wanted a gay man, but America was too sexist, racist, anti semitic and homophobic to accept it. Quote her first choice was her close friend Pete Buttigieg, but she decided that it would be too big of a risk for a black woman to run with a gay man. Buttigieg would have been an ideal partner if I were a straight white man. We were already asking a lot of America to accept a woman. A black woman, a black woman married.
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Jesse Waters
To a Jewish man.
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Greg Gutfeld
Part of me wanted to say, screw it, let's just do it. But knowing what was at stake, it was too big of a risk. Greg, I love this story.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'm so confused. She said she wanted a gay man. Isn't that why she picked Wallace? Here's the deal. I can't stand people who say they almost did something, but they didn't cuz it was hard and they still expect some credit for almost doing it. It doesn't count. The whole point of gaining respect from people is doing the thing that is hard or doing the thing that carries risk. The fact that you almost did it puts us all on the same plane. We almost did it too. I almost picked Mayor Pete, but I didn't. So that. Anyway, it's funny how DEI hires refused to pay it forward. Like, imagine if Joe Biden felt the same way about Kamala that Kamala felt about Mayor Pete. He wouldn't have picked her. She wouldn't have been the vp. She wouldn't have run for president. And then finally she's running for president and she's like, gay man, hell no. I want to win. I'm going to rely on that old meritocracy thing.
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Greg Gutfeld
I love how she thinks that a gay guy would have hurt her chances, so she went with a straight white man. Meanwhile, everyone's like, you blew up the border and jacked up prices. Who cares what he sleeps with?
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Emily Compagno
Totally. The risk was not a gay man with a black woman. It was a neophyte ideologue and then sheer incompetence. Like America didn't care about that. The issue wasn't skin color or gender or sexual preference. It was that Americans did not want a president who plagiarized. They wouldn't want a vice president who faked photo ops with bicycles. And can't these failed candidates see that? Promises made, promises kept. That means so much more than these immutable characteristics that they're obsessed with in those exit polls, especially in the communities that Kamala Harris claims to represent just by virtue of checking a box. The number one issues were the economy. It was jobs, it was immigration and authenticity of leadership. And I know that she can't grasp this, but the point is that it actually wasn't about Kamala or her skin color or the sexual preference about Pete. It was about what Americans needed, and that was Trump.
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Greg Gutfeld
Who do you think feels worse about this? Pete, for being too gay or tampon.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Not gay enough for not being gay enough.
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Greg Gutfeld
That's to you, my man.
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Jesse Waters
I think I would not have put this in my book if I were the vice president. I think that the 107 days, the thing that crystallized so much in people's minds was the answer that was not given on the View. I don't care whom you chose.
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Greg Gutfeld
And she's on the View next week.
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Jesse Waters
When you were asked that basic question about what she would do going forward, she did a great job. I thought we can differ around and say, but I thought she did an extraordinary job in the debate against President Trump. President Trump still disagrees with me and believes that he won that debate, but she handled herself at a minimum, extraordinary low. And I think she won. Her team at that point should have put her out more. That's what I would have been talking about in the book. Now, if you read this and you voted for President Trump the last go round, I have to tell you, when you read when, if that's the quote from the book, that she thought about doing it, but she didn't do it, I agree with you 100%, Greg. You can't tell us, don't make yourself out like to be a hero and you don't want to be too big of a hero. So you didn't do it because you thought the country wasn't ready for your heroism. You just reassured everybody voted for Donald Trump in 2024 that they indeed did the right thing. You should be talking about different things that you if you want to reenter the national political conversation and certainly if you want to reenter the national political dialogue as an elected candidate. So I was disappointed to read this.
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Greg Gutfeld
All right. So Pete's gay, Rosanna, but not friends with school shooters.
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Rosanna Scotto
I'm just going to say Pete Buttigieg had his own problems when he was head of transportation. Don't forget, we had a lot of cancellations at the airports, delays. But how many people really vote for the vice president? Does that really matter? I mean, maybe it gives a little edge. I think that Ms. Harris really had to take full responsibility that people were not that interested in her. She missed the point. Migration, people saw it in their neighborhoods. They saw the immigrants living on the streets begging for money, had no jobs and also the price of eggs. They knew inflation was so had taken over their lives and they couldn't afford the basics anymore to feed their family. I think she missed the point and I'm looking forward to when she goes to revisit the people on the View because that was the beginning of the end of her candidacy.
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Jesse Waters
All right.
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Greg Gutfeld
Up next, Gavin Newsom tries to claim Charlie Kirk's youth movement right back.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Dr. Wolfson fired from this is Jason.
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Jesse Waters
Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast.
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Greg Gutfeld
Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests.
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Will Kane
Listen and follow now@foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you.
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Greg Gutfeld
Are, wherever you download podcasts.
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Donald Trump
He just wanted to take care of youth. He loved youth. He was I've never seen anybody relate to youth like Charlie, and they related to him.
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Jesse Waters
President Trump sounding off on the impact Charlie Kirk had on the youth vote. The LA Times says, quote, charlie Kirk gave young men something to believe in. Now Governor Newsom wants to do the same. The California governor has been praising Charlie's movement and he thinks his party, the Democrats, could learn something from Charlie Kirk. What are your thoughts about this, Jesse? I mean, is it wrong for I think it's kind of a saying that Charlie was right and maybe Democrats got to try to do some of this.
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Greg Gutfeld
Newsom's correct in that men are lonely, they're addicted to screens and they're looking for meaning in their life. But where this guy been, he's been a politician for 40 years. He's never said a thing about it, never done anything about it. And California and the Democratic Party have waged a war on men. They imported all these Third world workers. They sent all the jobs to China, all the big tech companies got them addicted to screens and Rewired their brains. They declared a war on police, a war on energy, and they called men toxic. So to now come around and say, I wonder what's wrong with young men. I mean, this guy's Monday morning quarterbacking here. I like that he's diagnosed the problem, but he has to do something about the problem if you're going to be a leader of the country.
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Jesse Waters
Greg, is it not better late than never to come to the conclusion that generally I am.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'm always with better late than never. But Newsom treats life like a walk in closet. He goes in there and he goes, what am I going to put on today that will get me attention? And it's always a put on. There never seems to be anything more than a political calculation. And here Gavin is hitching his wagon to Charlie, which seems kind of ghoulish to me. I think the Democrats are in a tough place. You have no strong voices on that side because you spent all of your energy and your muscle on being anti Trump. You forgot that you needed ideas and policies and a moral position on things like trans and crime and the border. So they're like a kid whose entire diet was Twizzlers, and they show up at the gym and they realize their body is atrophied. Right now, there's only one Democrat, one Democrat who has a chance to save the party, and his name is Harold Ford. Ford. Harold Ford. Ford.
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Jesse Waters
Your thoughts on this? On this issue?
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Rosanna Scotto
I think Greg is onto something you could do.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'm on something or that, too.
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Rosanna Scotto
Listen, everybody wants to emulate someone else, but it's very hard to be that person. That person is unique. Charlie Kirk was unique because he found his voice. He found what resonated with young people. He was face to face with those young people, whether they believed in the same thing or not. He hit it head on. He literally, whatever someone wanted to say, he accepted it and then gave his opinion. Gavin Newsom, so far, he's just, you know, in some secluded room with his podcast, looking for content every day. And now he's. Well, I think it's smart that he's kind of hitching his star to Charlie Kirk, but it's going to take more than just saying that.
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Jesse Waters
I think you're right. I think it is smart, but. So, Emily, what's the substance? If you were giving him advice you're not giving, But I think the body politic could use both parties trying to reach out in serious, meaningful ways. What advice or how would you do it if you were trying Charlie's you can't replace Charlie, but how would you try to continue what he's done?
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Emily Compagno
Well, I would listen to everyone carrying forth the mantle that Charlie has inspired. And the reason I hesitated for a moment is because the talking points I had prepared were simply just attacking the governor, which I'm really good at.
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Jesse Waters
You can still do that. But I.
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Emily Compagno
And my point is that, look, to be honest, and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but this is someone who was part of the erosion of the social fabric that has led to these millions of young men that feel suicidal and lost and isolated. And Charlie Kirk's empowerment and inspiration came from biblical values. It came from him looking a young man in the eye and saying, it is more important and fulfilling for me to feel my daughter's arms around my leg than to fly on Air Force Run 1. And this is a governor who participated in the vilification of pastors during COVID Just simply trying to spread the word and to make people not feel alone. This is a person who has enjoyed millions of dollars of donations from the online platforms that have contributed meaningfully and frankly, devastatingly to the youth of America. So in my opinion, that's just the tip of the iceberg. In my opinion, him sort of coming forth and saying, hey, 10,000 mentors in, by the way, a state of 40 million people. So that's triage, not transformation. But for him to somehow think that he's owning a type of solution to what has been the total erosion of what these young men and women have needed for so long in Congress, in parents, in the home. This was a governor that said, I replace parents as a state that Come find me if your parents object to your physical transformation from genders under 18. I will take the place of your parents. And now he's deigning to think that he can step in as a parent. That's what these young men need. So I agree with you. He is trying on this shirt, the Charlie Kirk shirt, but it is such a false costume on him because we know his true colors. We have seen what he has done for the past years. And what the world needs is not one Gavin Newsom. It is a million Charlie Kirks empowered in these young men themselves.
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Jesse Waters
I hear you. The fastest is up next.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Recently, we asked some people about sharing their New York Times accounts.
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Emily Compagno
My name is Dana.
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Rosanna Scotto
I am a subscriber to the New York Times, but my husband isn't.
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Emily Compagno
And it would be really nice to be able to share a recipe or.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you, Dana. We heard you introducing the New York Times family subscription. One subscription, up to four separate logins for anyone in your life. Find out more@nytimes.com family welcome back. Women who hate men might be the most desirable chicks to date. The theory is if she's disgusted with all dudes but loves you, you never need to worry. Emily, this sounds like garbage.
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Emily Compagno
I love this. Yes, it's so true, everybody. Yes, because you hate men. Here's why.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Okay?
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Emily Compagno
Because if a woman hates all men, understandably, then when she finds someone that she loves, she a, totally adores them, and B, they've defied all the stereotypes. So she's. You know what?
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Jesse Waters
I'm.
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Harold Ford Jr.
What if she's a lesbian and he just looks like a woman?
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Jesse Waters
That could be.
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Emily Compagno
Answer that on live television.
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Harold Ford Jr.
There you go.
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Emily Compagno
I'll get in trouble.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Harold, I want to read this to you and you tell me what this sounds like. By dating a woman who has high standards and deep skepticism, which means she hates men, men are forced to win them over by proving their emotional intelligence and commitment. This is about left wing dudes.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, they're tricking.
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Jesse Waters
No, it's an audition.
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Emily Compagno
It's an audition to be a real man. Harold, be on my side.
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Jesse Waters
I just think that if you find a woman you like and the woman likes you and you all click, then stay together. But if a woman doesn't like men and she finds a man she finally likes, she made to the contrast of, wow, there may be more men out there like this guy that could find her way. So I just think you got. It's got to click with the two.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you, Barry White. I think you should all just relax, light a candle, listen to Harold Ford sing you a song. Roseanne. What do you. Do you buy this stuff?
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Rosanna Scotto
Well, I haven't dated in a very long time. I've been married since dinosaurs.
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Harold Ford Jr.
That hasn't stopped me.
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Rosanna Scotto
But I'm just gonna say dating has always been a challenge. This is more like, you know, leveling up the dating setting, you know, that's it.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Leveling up.
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Rosanna Scotto
Yeah, it's just a little bit more difficult.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I don't know. You know, Jesse, I'm seeing the undercurrent here. This is saying this is basically men have to act more like women to get women to like them.
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Greg Gutfeld
That'll never work. And I see it completely differently. Yeah, women who hate men, AKA lesbians.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Or no, lesbians, love men.
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Greg Gutfeld
They do.
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Harold Ford Jr.
They. Why do you think they hang out at Home Depot?
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Greg Gutfeld
They're illegals too. I wasn't thinking about that. I see every man I think we should go to. The one deep down thinks he can flip a woman. A woman that hates men or a lesbian. He thinks after a few drinks. Game on. He's the one to do it.
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Jesse Waters
I'm gonna interrupt. One more thing is up next.
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Emily Compagno
It's time now for one more thing.
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Greg Gutfeld
We got a feeding frenzy.
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Jesse Waters
Let's do it.
- [41:35]
Greg Gutfeld
To show the next yolk for 1979.
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Jesse Waters
Yeah, I was born.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Really?
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Emily Compagno
Yeah.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Almost 50.
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Emily Compagno
Both of us.
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Greg Gutfeld
Greg, you're so rude. Never tell a woman how old she is. Tell her other things. National Cheeseburger Day, everybody. We got National Cheeseburgers from. Where is this from? Langen. Langens. Langens. All right. Hamburger created in 1900 and let's just eat them. Who cares? Tonight, Jesse Waters. Primetime. Primetime goes inside. Antifa. We have an Antifa guy to come on. We'll talk about all of his shenanigans. Eight o', clock. Correct.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Tonight I got Jim Brewer, Michelle Tafoya, Tyrus and Kat Timf. That's tonight at 10:00pm Harold, real quickly.
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Jesse Waters
Prayers to Sergeant Becker, Detective Baker and Detective Emmett Heiser, the three officers killed in Pennsylvania. But this young lady here, Ms. Marin, got a car gifted to her by the parents of this school. She lost her car. They loved her so much. She takes care of their kids, God bless her.
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Emily Compagno
Speaking of cars, look at the Goonies moment here. This dude borrowed a Barbie cart from his friend's daughter to go drive and get a Slurpee. And then obviously he was arrested.
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Will Kane
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