Latte Lefties

Summary

The Five — "Latte Lefties"

FOX News Podcasts | June 25, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Five" brings together Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino, and Paul Morrow to debate and dissect the recent surge of Democratic Socialists in New York, the concept of "big tent" parties, Democratic Party infighting, patriotism in America, President Trump's 250th birthday celebrations, the ongoing culture wars, and even the impact of Hollywood "wokeness" with the new Supergirl movie. The panel jokes, spars, and provides their signature mix of analysis and banter as they tackle these hot-button topics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Democratic Socialists' Surge in New York & the "Big Tent" Debate

Discussion Highlights:

• Jesse Watters opens on New York's "Red massacre" primary wins for radical Democratic Socialist candidates, attributing the shift to "white gentrifiers" and a small, elite activist segment.
  "Just 7% of active voters supported Mandani’s radical comrades made up of young and white New Yorkers." (01:09)
• The panel debates whether the Democratic Party can remain a "big tent" as its progressive wing gains strength.
  • Dana Perino outlines three Democratic schools of thought: those who want to fight back (e.g., Gottheimer, Fetterman), the leadership who wish to ignore the issue (e.g., Jeffries, Schumer), and those advocating for embracing the left (e.g., Cory Booker, Chris Murphy). (03:26)
  • The influence of AOC is discussed, noting her strategic non-endorsement in local races, hinting at her broader ambitions.
    "I think what she was wanting to show with the gesture of not endorsing is I'm not as crazy as they are." – Dana Perino (04:28)
• Greg Gutfeld warns about normalizing socialism, referencing how "wolves in wolves clothing" are increasingly open about power rather than helping the poor.
  "They're not hiding this behind helping the poor. They're just saying, we want power. These are wolves in wolves clothing." (06:23)

Notable Quote:
"If you lose us, the whole thing goes to hell. Lastly, what’s really frustrating about socialism is that whenever it comes up, you feel compelled to have to explain it – the horrific outcomes to the young people..."
— Greg Gutfeld (07:00)

Timestamps:

• The Democratic split explained: (03:26 – 04:42)
• Greg’s critique of socialism: (05:00 – 07:50)

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2. The Make-up & Motivation of Progressive Voters

Discussion Highlights:

• The notion that only young, downwardly mobile whites support the socialist surge is challenged.
  • Paul Morrow: "It isn't just the young white educated. It's also older and very wealthy too… $7-10 million houses." (08:11)
  • Jessica Tarlov: Recognizes the broader "intelligentsia." (08:35)
• The role of Israel in local and national Democratic splits is analyzed, referencing Richie Torres’s support for Israel and the complex alliances in DSA ranks. (09:00–10:39)
• The limited legislative achievements of "the Squad" are debated, emphasizing their role as symbolic lightning rods rather than legislators.

Notable Quote:
"When I was a kid, [‘socialist’] was like calling something really horrible in a political context... to the point that ‘communism’ is no longer really a pejorative."
— Greg Gutfeld (12:15)

Timestamps:

• Voter demographics and the Bronx example: (08:09 – 10:39)
• Language, labels, and the new left: (12:00 – 13:52)

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3. National Identity & the New American Patriotism

Discussion Highlights:

• The panel discusses Trump’s 250th birthday celebration and growing foreign appreciation for America as experienced by World Cup visitors.
• Dana Perino points out how foreigners realize the U.S. is not what negative media narratives suggested.
  "The World Cup comes here, it's America 250. Now all of these people from around the world… are saying this place is actually really great." (17:05)
• Debate over declining Democratic patriotism, with Jesse Watters blaming media narratives and modern culture, while Jessica Tarlov defends Democrats' capacity for pride.
• The idea that Trump "hijacks" patriotism and American symbols is explored.
  • Jessica: "I don't think Trump can help himself being Uncle Sam… he literally is Uncle Sam…" (19:51)
  • Greg: "Part of it comes from the American obsession with youth… you're not allowed to grow up." (20:19)
• Humorous takes on what fascinates Europeans about America: Bucky’s, ranch dressing, yellow school buses. (20:40–21:50)
• Controversy around vandalism of the DC Reflecting Pool.

Timestamps:

• World Cup and patriotism: (15:34 – 18:00)
• Patriotism and Trump discussion: (18:01 – 22:19)
• Funny ‘American quirks’ with Europeans: (20:19 – 21:44)

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4. Obama vs. Trump and Legacy Obsessions

Discussion Highlights:

• Barack Obama’s comment that "I obviously have a room in [Trump’s] head rent free" is dissected.
• Jesse Watters suggests Trump’s repeated invocation of Obama’s middle name "Hussein" is both humorous and strategic, hinting at culture war undertones. (26:08–26:30)
• The panel lampoons Obama’s perceived self-regard and quirky moments from his library opening, including a claimed wish that it were "less about [him]" and more about Gandhi.
  "I just find [Obama talking about Gandhi] very hard to believe… are we at that point?" – Greg Gutfeld (29:49)
• Greg gleefully notes, "You need ID to get into Obama's building… so let's put the voting booths inside the Obama library." (31:54–32:05)
• The broader complaint is that both parties obsess over each other, with the culture wars originating from the left but demonstrated in the right’s reactions.

Notable Quote:
"When people say they accuse you of living in their head or, ooh, I must have touched a nerve… your response is somehow an obsession because they cannot defend what they say."
— Greg Gutfeld (30:26)

Timestamps:

• Obama “rent free” riff: (25:04 – 26:08)
• Legacy, Gandhi, and library debate: (27:42 – 31:54)

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5. Hollywood "Woke" Failures and the Supergirl Movie

Discussion Highlights:

• The new Supergirl film is trashed for both artistic failings and "woke" messaging, predicted to lose $200 million.
  • Dana: "The summer flick… is tracking for around a $200 million loss and the reviews are kryptonite." (32:31)
  • Greg riffs on Hollywood’s inability to depict feminine strength outside of male tropes, imagining an absurd "maternal authority" power. (33:06–34:23)
  • The group jokes about real-life and genre-based gender politics.
  • Jesse claims the film is doomed: "No man will ever see this movie. And most women won't see it. The ones that do, there's just not enough of them..." (35:32)

Timestamps:

• Supergirl discussion: (32:31 – 36:08)

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6. Comfort Food, Gender, and Everyday Choices

Discussion Highlights:

• A light segment debates whether ordering the same meal every time is boring or a reflection of self-respect.
  • Greg: "If you are a satisfier... you’re a communist." (37:43)
  • Jesse and Jessica quip about food habits and relationship dynamics at restaurants, launching into gender-based jokes about hunger and food-sharing.

Timestamps:

• Restaurant habits and psychology: (36:27 – 39:10)

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7. Notable Lighter Moments

• Patriotism & Trump:
  "I don't think Trump can help himself being Uncle Sam. He literally is Uncle Sam..."
  — Jessica Tarlov (19:51)
• Jokes about European fascination with America:
  "We, like, use [ranch dressing] to remove rust from exhaust pipes. I don't know what it is..." — Greg Gutfeld (21:09)
• Tongue-in-cheek “Maternal Superpowers” for Supergirl:
  "Her superpower is her ability to pull her legs apart and fire a baby at you out of her womb. Hundreds of super baby, machine gun baby..." — Greg Gutfeld (33:41)
• Gutfeld on Obama’s Library:
  "You need ID to get into Obama's building… so let's put the voting booths inside the Obama library." (31:54)

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Notable Quotes & Speaker Attribution (with timestamps)

• "They're not hiding this behind helping the poor. They're just saying, we want power. These are wolves in wolves clothing."
  — Greg Gutfeld (06:23)

• "It isn't just the young white educated. It's also older and very wealthy too… $7-10 million houses."
  — Paul Morrow (08:11)

• "If you are a satisfier and you just want just enough, you’re a communist."
  — Greg Gutfeld (37:43)

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Episode Timestamps for Key Segments

• Surge of Socialists/Big Tent Party: 01:00 – 10:00
• Socialism's Media Image & Democratic Party Strategy: 10:00 – 14:15
• Patriotism, World Cup, Trump’s Celebration: 15:15 – 22:19
• Obama vs Trump, Legacy Obsessions: 25:04 – 32:05
• Supergirl, Hollywood Woke Slump: 32:31 – 36:08
• Food Habits & Gender Banter: 36:27 – 39:10

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

"The Five" remains witty, snarky, and sharp, blending serious political analysis with signature jabs and self-aware humor. The hosts challenge the leftward drift in Democratic politics, the meaning of American patriotism, and the effects of culture wars on entertainment and identity, while punctuating their debates with memorable asides and lighthearted segments on everything from ranch dressing to the psychology of ordering at restaurants.

Anyone seeking a thorough yet entertaining barometer of right-leaning cultural and political anxieties – and the banter that makes Fox's "The Five" a staple of cable news – will find this episode a rangy, robust encapsulation of today’s debates.

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[Jesse Waters]

Hello everybody, I'm Jesse Waters along with Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. The Democratic establishment can see blood in the water after Zoran's Red massacre. Three radical candidates cruising to victory and all thanks to white gentrifiers. Just 7% of active voters supported Mandani's radical comrades made up of young and white New Yorkers. And last night the Commie collective made the rounds to say we're not commies, we're a big tent party. Except for the whole Israel thing.

[Dana Perino]

It's a big tent party.

[Paul Morrow]

There's also the issue of Israel.

[Dana Perino]

We should not be aiding and abetting a genocide and occupation.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All sorts of Republicans ads to say this is what you're going to get if you vote for this Democrats a Communist.

[Dana Perino]

For far too long, this reactive conversation

[Greg Gutfeld]

of what we should be afraid of has prevented us from being able to have a politics of hope and a

[Dana Perino]

politics of life that Democrats can actually

[Paul Morrow]

identify with actual reality.

[Jesse Waters]

Now the establishment finds themselves going through the stages of grief. First comes denial and anger, one House lawmaker telling cnn, quote, are we going to let them take over the party? Are we going to stand up and fight back? And Carville and others crashing out, lady,

[Greg Gutfeld]

I ain't in the same party as you. Everybody's always said no, no, we're coalition, we're big tent.

[Jesse Waters]

And there's some, there's just some that I can't be in the same tent with.

[Jessica Tarlov]

This is not a Dems will be Dems situation.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Donald Trump is the President of the United States of America right now. Are you kidding me? Our focus is going to be on

[Jessica Tarlov]

ending this national nightmare. And in this country, we have a great unified party and we're going to stop Trump.

[Jesse Waters]

But finally there's acceptance. If you can't beat the commies, join them.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Perhaps it's time for change. I think the Democratic Socialists of America is a force to be reckoned with at this point.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We are a big tent party. That's who we are.

[Jesse Waters]

And they're not afraid of the term Democratic socialism.

[Dana Perino]

I'm not scared of the term.

[Paul Morrow]

There was so much fear around that when I was elected, and none of it bore out be true.

[Jesse Waters]

So, Dana, can you be a big tent party if once you let the commies inside the tent, they're going to try to kick you out?

[Dana Perino]

Right. And they brought knives and they don't believe in the rules, and they're actually there to kill you. That's really what's happening. I think there's three schools of Democrats right now. So you have gottheimer that you just had there saying, aren't we going to fight back, guys? Fetterman's in that camp. And then you have Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. It's no big deal. There's nothing to see here.

[Jesse Waters]

Kind of ignore it.

[Dana Perino]

And then you have people like Cory Booker or Chris Murphy saying, actually, we need to embrace them and we need to do this. Well, they tried that. If you think about the first three years of the Biden administration, what did Ron Klain, the chief of staff, continue to do with Biden? I'm not saying. I don't know if Biden was wanting to go as far left as they did, but they kept going to the progressive left. Anything the squad wanted, they did. Think about Nancy Pelosi, how she got completely pushed back when she wanted to do a resolution against the anti Semitic comments from Ilhan Omar. No, you can't do that. But I think what's interesting about AOC is that she didn't endorse in these races. She's from New York. She has higher office aspirations. And I think what she was wanting to show with the gesture of not endorsing is I'm not as crazy as they are.

[Jesse Waters]

That's hard to be. Greg, you've seen a lot of reaction. What do you think the best reaction is?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, the, the saddest reaction is that in that montage, we heard Democrats more worried about the politics than the reality. You know, they're worried what will Republicans do with this instead of what could happen to America if this spreads. That's, that's the thing you should be thinking about since you've let it happen. We normies are burdened with this radical phenomenon, like every 10, 15 years. Usually we have to wait it out until some of the younger people grow out of it when they see that their beliefs are tethered to failure, that there's no measure of achievement or improvement associated with socialism. But as one socialist grows out of it immediately, another one grows into it, straight from the campus to Congress. It sucks. The left owns the soft power, which is the media, the schools, and the arts. So it's like Doritos, you know, we. We crush them, they make more of them, and, and it's because they just romance radicalism. And it, it's always going to be there. So how do you respond to this? Do you scream it's the end of America like they do when they talk about Trump, the end of democracy? I think it makes them seem more interesting and powerful and dangerous than they really are. Look at Hasan Piker. He'd still be a nobody if we treated him that way. The problem is it only takes a few elites to create a revolution. There were like 20,000 plus Bolsheviks that ushered in communism and killed millions of people in Russia, later the Soviet Union. But having said that, it is really chilling how emboldened they are. They're not hiding this behind helping the poor. They're just saying, we want power. These are wolves in wolves clothing. And it's, you know, you want to be careful not to amplify it, but you also don't want to discount it because that's what the Dems did. The Dems saw them as just other Democrats. They thought it was nonsense and it wouldn't get anywhere. They'll fall into line just like Bernie did. But they're not. We can't discount it because we're the makers, we're not the takers. If you lose us, the whole thing goes to hell. Lastly, what's really frustrating about socialism is that whenever it comes up, you feel compelled to have to explain it. The horrific outcomes to the young people, the way it kills human progress and initiative. But I keep thinking to myself, who am I explaining it to? Like, it's almost like we're trying to export democracy to a third world hellhole like Somalia. But it's not. It's the United States. It's here. I'm trying to convince people that are here. And it's not third world, it's white elite intelligentsia, the 7%, who, as history has shown, they will call you fascist, but then when they get into power, oh man, are they bloodthirsty. Because the whole point of this, it's not to get power to help the country. They say they hate the country. It's power to overturn the country and punish the people they hate. They haven't thought ahead of what to do next. If you want evidence of that, look at all the bloody revolutions.

[Jesse Waters]

So the 7%, Jessica, the young college educated, they call them downwardly mobile because they got these expensive degrees and they don't have real jobs. Why would they vote for a candidate that wants to abolish police in prisons? That could hurt them.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, two things.

[Paul Morrow]

One, it isn't just the young white educated. It's also older and very wealthy too, because they won all the brownstone blocks in Cobble Hill and Brooklyn heights, shrugging like seven to $10 million houses. So this is a bigger phenomenon than you're making it out to be by just saying that it's, you know, 28 year olds with a gender studies degree.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But I said intelligentsia.

[Paul Morrow]

I know. Are you talking to chess?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I know. We get confused.

[Jesse Waters]

White guys. Go ahead.

[Paul Morrow]

No, I'm just expanding it. That this is something that is happening more broadly than that, but it is still part of the intelligentsia. Because if you look at someone like Richie Torres, who also had challenges from the left, multiple, the strongest supporter of Israel out there, not Manby Pamby about it, Right. He's critical of Bibi Netanyahu, which basically everybody is, no matter how you vote. And he won by enormous margins. But his district, the poorer side of it, black, lower class in the Bronx. And then the higher class or the higher earning faction was the modern orthodox, right, who are supportive of the fact that you're talking about how important it is to have a good relationship with Israel, it has a right to exist, etc. To Dana's point about AOC not endorsing. Yes, she's being smart about it. Also, you're not supposed to endorse against sitting incumbents, which is what happened in two of these races. And I thought it was important also that when Bernie congratulated the winners, he left that Daria Lisa off the list. He said, congratulations, Claire Valdez. And Brad Lander. And Brad Lander, who? He's not some guy we don't know about. He's the comptroller here. He's already talking about getting Hakeem Jeffries the gavel and how he wants to work with everyone. So there are denominations of DSA in here or of left wing that are important to acknowledge in terms of what's going to happen electorally. What AOC said matters about, you know, they were really scared when we came in. Nothing happened. Because I remember the 2018 election primaries. Ilhan Omar, AOC comes out of it, and we think, okay, going to become the boogeyman. That's what happened. Conservative media only solely focused on them saying, you know, we're going socialist, et cetera. And then Democrats flipped 43 seats, including that huge camo wave that brought in Alyssa Slotkin, Abigail Spanberger, Mikey Sherrill, et cetera. Yeah, you say, oh, but she's not a socialist. Right. She's not part of the dsa. So, no, it's. If you want to.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I mean, you have a low bar, I get it.

[Paul Morrow]

I don't have a low bar. If you're comparing someone who says we shouldn't have prison to, like, a CIA agent, then it's a completely unfair compari.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, you met trans ladies in sports. What?

[Paul Morrow]

Come on.

[Dana Perino]

I do. See, when you say aoc, nothing happened. Something happened. They pushed Biden so far to the left that Trump got reelected.

[Jesse Waters]

Yes. And all the defund. The police came out of the squad, and then crime went up.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The most corrupt person in the House,

[Jesse Waters]

Omar, gets in there and they start pouring billions of dollars into Somalia and everyone steals it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So let's remember something on a practical level, what you swapped in Congress here, you swapped three guaranteed Democratic votes for three guaranteed Democratic votes, period. End of story. That's just all you lost at the national level. First of all, this is why controlling the nomenclature matters so much. We've talked about it on the air, how the left controls the language. Right. Socialist is no longer a pejorative. When I was a kid, it was like calling something really horrible in a political context to the point that communism is no longer really a pejorative. There are people out there expounding, yeah, I'm a communist, so what? I'm on the side of the angels. What we should talk about more specifically is the people themselves. As in, let's go with Chevalier. Okay. Never had a real job. 14 years in college. What did you do? 14 years in college. How did you pay your bill? 14 years in college.

[Jesse Waters]

14 years.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. And she wasn't. And she wasn't victim enough by being female and a person of color. So she converts to Islam. That was just so she could hit the grievances industry trifecta. That's all that was, in my opinion. Furthermore, what else has she done? No Borders hates the U.S. talk about what they say and what they are because the labels don't matter anymore. Communism, it's not carrying any weight on the left. They just think of that as the peanut butter over the bread of the Democrats. It's no big deal. It's a spice. This could be a gift to the Republicans if it ends up being played the right way. Why? Of course, because the pounce right, you can now run against the Mamdani wing of the Democratic Party in almost every context. I don't want to hear about a big tent. The tent would have to be the size of the universe to cover some of these disparate opinions. But also they produce nothing in Congress. Name a significant piece of legislation that the squad, which we're now up to about 8, has ever managed to push through. They are the crazy kids in the corner that the Democrats have to hide that they got to worry about now. All right, I'm running out of time, but I want to make a point about Behar here. Behar talks about, hey, this is democratic socialism. When I have an injury that the ambulance shows up, that the fire department shows. First of all, Joy noted. You didn't say police. We know why you didn't say that. You don't have to go any further. Right. The subtext came through loud and clear. Secondly, having a fire department and an ambulance service, that's democratic socialism. I think there's a lot of red cities and states around the country that would be very surprised to hear that they're DSA because they got firemen and women. All right. It's the most idiotic analogy I've ever heard in my life. The downside of all of this, because I do think it quarantines the crazies on the Democratic side is the fact, and Greg, you touched it, is that it seems to be growing. And so while you want to quarantine an isolated cancer, if it grows, it kills the host. And if it gets into double figures and they start promulgating legislation that actually goes through, we're in big trouble. And we're not in Europe trouble, we're in Czechoslovakia in the 1950s trouble. That's what can't be allowed. Understand the stakes. That's how bad it can get.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The one thing, though, is AOC did damage outside of Congress with Amazon, so there are consequences.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Also, she's going to damage Schumer if she wants that seat, because this demonstrates it's hers.

[Dana Perino]

Also, she damaged the Women who were being victimized in New York City. And she never said a word about it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jesse Waters]

And she brought home that half a million dollar anti racist oyster reef.

[Dana Perino]

And why?

[Jesse Waters]

Remember the earmark? The anti racist oyster boyfriend has red hair. Start watching my show. Up next, B2 flyovers and the YMCA. President Trump's America 250 kickoff was oozing red, white and blue.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jesse Waters]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

President Trump Melton faces off for America 250 with a flyover of B2 bombers and F35 fighter jets. He also serenaded the crowd with America's favorite gay anthem, the ymca, and gave a speech that was the exact opposite of a land acknowledgement.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We've never reached so high as we're reaching right now. This is our heritage. This is our history.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And this is the destiny of America. To be the greatest, most incredible country ever to grace the earth. All right. But Jessica's party practically pukes at the sight of the Stars and Stripes. Only 27% of Dems are proud to be American, and just 61% are patriotic. But thankfully, our former colonizers have wised up. English World cup fans are discovering they've been lied to about America.

[Greg Gutfeld]

America, you deserve and are owed an apology.

[Jesse Waters]

And I'm gonna say sorry on behalf of all the countries outside America and

[Jessica Tarlov]

their media and the narrative they paint about America.

[Jesse Waters]

Hundreds and thousands of fans for the World cup are now seeing America through their own eyes, realizing the narrative they've

[Jessica Tarlov]

been fed is false.

[Jesse Waters]

This weird narrative that is a place

[Greg Gutfeld]

that you shouldn't go.

[Jesse Waters]

But now the tides are changing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You know, Dana, when I lived in London for a couple of years, it was amazing how America was portrayed to England.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And especially during. I was there during the time of Hurricane Katrina and everything. And. And I think what he's saying, people realize that, like, they're being sold a bill. It's like a spouse complaining about their spouse to you. And then you meet the spouse and

[Dana Perino]

she goes, she's great.

[Jessica Tarlov]

She's great.

[Dana Perino]

I can't believe you talk about Helena.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Exactly.

[Dana Perino]

She's actually amazing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Exactly.

[Dana Perino]

No, I see what you mean. And I hear his point, too, which is that the media narrative about America is bad. Or maybe they're watching TV shows that they don't like or whatever. And everybody has national pride. But it has been great for. And we didn't plan it for. Plan it this way, but the World cup comes here. It's America 250. And now all of these people from around the world come and are saying this place is actually really great. And they love it. And it's not just that they're in New York or Los Angeles, they're all across the country. And what you hear over and over again is how friendly it is, but also about the abundance. Now, I think a lot of them are going to gain some weight while they're here. Like, we hear a lot about the food, but the other thing that happened today is, once again, the Europeans are trying to stick American tech companies with more regulations and more taxes because they can't do their own tech. There's like no European tech company. There's no innovation. They are stifled and not just from the heat.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Mm, good point. You know, Jessica, a lot of people think that you hate America. And I can say she doesn't. She really, really likes it. While we were doing, showing the clip, you, I saw you crying. It was beautiful.

[Paul Morrow]

So a little 250th anniversary tear.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Why do you think people think. Is there a reason for us to think that you guys hate America? I always get the sense that you guys view patriotism as quaint and corny.

[Paul Morrow]

So I think part of it is that you tell people sometimes that we hate America. Like, it was even in the read my name was in the teleprompter about my party. Yeah, like, everyone loves the Fourth of July and, you know, doing the barbecue. And I'm not sure. I don't think it's completely due to the Trump era, all 10 years of it, that there started to be less of an emphasis in talking about your patriotism or being proud of it or flying flags, et cetera. But it definitely is. You know, Donald Trump has made the flag and loving the flag and hugging the flag, if we remember that, you know, a big part of his vibe and the way that he presents. And I think for people who are enormous fans of his and certainly feel that he's co opting, you know, this anniversary with Freedom. 250 over America. 250, which was supposed to be the bipartisan one, that he's trying to make it more about himself. I think we should all lean into it. I mean, the country is bigger than any president. It will be here Much longer than any president who is in office. And 250 years is really special and worth commemorating that way. So I hope we can lean into that and talk about the positives, even if people are not.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I kind of almost agree with you in the sense that I don't think Trump can help himself being Uncle Sam. He literally is Uncle Sam, and he can't help it because he loves his country. Paul, we've talked about this for years. The idea that modern culture is based on negativity, that. The idea that aspirational things, whether it's like moving to the suburbs or having a good 9 to 5 job or. Or believing in God or being patriotic, are all square, to use an old phrase.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And part of it comes from the American obsession with youth, Right? Like you're not allowed to grow up. If you grow up, then all of a sudden. Yeah, exactly. It's just really unbelievably uncool. Look, I think a lot of this European stuff that we're seeing online is genuine. I know people are questioning it, saying things like, oh, it's just for clicks, et cetera. I'm gonna tell you why I believe it, because it's intriguing. I never heard of this, but Bucky's.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Bucky's, yeah. It's amazing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So, like, you know, I see these things. Look at this. This. The gas station is the size of my whole neighborhood. I mean, look at this joint, right? So that's the kind of stuff that intrigues me. I can't imagine if you're from someplace in the west of England or up in Scotland and you come to America and you see that kind of thing. It's interesting to me also, it's playing out in the arena of food so consistently, Right? This thing about ranch dressing. Now, let me disagree. Where are. We disabused the Europeans for a little bit. All right? We don't actually eat this stuff. I don't know what it is. All right?

[Jesse Waters]

I think we eat ranch.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We, like, use it to remove rust from exhaust pipes. I don't know what it is, what it's made of. Don't eat that stuff. The other thing, yellow school buses. We actually don't use them, okay? We just put them out for you guys. They're fascinated by all these little tidbits of America that, in all honesty, I don't get to see. And when I see them, I kind of get it. It's a good vibe.

[Dana Perino]

We just put you on a road trip.

[Jesse Waters]

I mean, my God, my kids got. Went to camp in a yellow School bus today and I had ransomware because

[Greg Gutfeld]

you're like the mayor of East Cupcake.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But I agree with you Italian.

[Jesse Waters]

I know it's got to be red for you to dip it in.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's right, that's right.

[Jesse Waters]

Something white.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Who are you married to?

[Jesse Waters]

She's Italian and I rest my case.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's all it is Amazing though, when you see the Brits just like look at things they've never seen before. Like a toothbrush. Jesse. Jesse, is. Has patriotism become synonymous with Trump and that's why patriotism is so hard for the Dems?

[Jesse Waters]

No, I remember Bush loved the flag. Reagan was all about the flag. So is John F. Kennedy. I don't know where this happened, but it's only recently. I think it's the last 20 years where the Democrats patriotism level has just dropped like a rock. And it's because if you watch the media, you hate America.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's right.

[Jesse Waters]

But if you visit America, you love it. Have you seen what's going on in dc? This is the biggest fair in American history. They have Lincoln stovetop hat on display, George Washington sword. What does that have to do with Donald Trump? That's nothing to do with Donald Trump. Every single state in the union has this grand pavilion where they're doing beautiful displays like Montana has a fossil digging thing. It's really cool. There's rodeos, there's interactive pheasant hunting. Shout out to North Dakota. I don't know why anybody can't get down with this. So while that's going on there, the Democrats are ripping up the reflecting pool. Now a couple days ago, a lot of people at this table pooh poohed the idea that you guys would vandalize the pool. But now we have hard evidence, reported by the New York Times and the park police. Because I've looked at all the reports. There was a guy with a pitchfork there the other day. They caught him at midnight doing something dirty. Another guy, 171 foot razor slashes at the bottom. Someone even got caught pulling up while he videotaped himself ripping up the bottom. That was the canoeist. So, Jessica, I don't know if you can just leave the pool alone. We'll take care of the fair. And I believe the 5 is going to the fair.

[Paul Morrow]

We are.

[Jesse Waters]

Don't rip up the pool while you're here.

[Paul Morrow]

I'm not gonna touch the pool. I just wanna guarantee that when we have a new Democratic president in 2029 and Memorial Day rolls around, Fourth of July, you don't say anything. Negative about the country. You don't say.

[Jesse Waters]

Why would I ever say anything negative?

[Paul Morrow]

John Ostoff's you didn' about America. It's terrible. You can't get a job. Your groceries cost more.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, that was never do that what groceries did cost.

[Dana Perino]

But that was a great image.

[Paul Morrow]

Even more now.

[Jesse Waters]

No, they don't.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, let's see if the Washington Post has an Al J Reporter when we get a Democratic president.

[Paul Morrow]

All right.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right, up next, Obama thinks Trump has a man crush on him. Who wouldn't? I don't want to go insane. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile with

[Jesse Waters]

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[Paul Morrow]

No judgments.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But that's weird.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay, one judgment anyway. Give it a [e-mail] switch upfront payment

[Paul Morrow]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

Barack Hussein Obama.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Have you ever heard of him? Barack Hussein Obama.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Have you heard of him?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Barack Hussein Obama.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Have you heard of him? Barack Hussein Obama.

[Jesse Waters]

You.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Have you heard of him?

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, so we all know former President Obama is one of President Trump's favorite punching bags. But is there more to the story? Fresh off opening his $850 million eyesore of a presidential library, the former commander in chief has a theory on why 47 keeps coming after him. I obviously have a room in his head rent free.

[Jesse Waters]

You do everything with grace.

[Greg Gutfeld]

A sweep in his head. But the thing about it is that was always clear to me. Look, first of all, when I was president, the last thing I had time to do was worry about what somebody said somebody said or what my predecessor did. They're gone. I've got work to do. So, Jesse, by my count, if there is a suite in Trump's head that Obama has, that gets him up to about, what, six residences by now?

[Jesse Waters]

Trump talks a lot. He says a lot of things. So, yeah, he's going to mention Barack Hussein Obama. Part of that is just he likes to say Hussein. But the other part of it, why

[Paul Morrow]

would he like to say because it's

[Jesse Waters]

funny that the president's middle name was Hussein? You don't think that's hysterical?

[Paul Morrow]

No.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay, okay.

[Paul Morrow]

It's interesting.

[Jesse Waters]

It was the name of the dictator.

[Paul Morrow]

Well, why he says it so that people still think that he's so Problematic.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, he did say he was Muslim and then he cleaned it up. Remember that NBC interview? He said, my Muslim faith. I don't know what he is. I don't care what he is. He's probably an atheist.

[Paul Morrow]

I don't know what he is.

[Jesse Waters]

He is. I know he's retired.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No God carry person would eat a dog.

[Jesse Waters]

But, you know, he also says, my great friend Chi, the great Sean Hannity, he says things all the time. Okay, he's not obsessed. But if some guy spied on my campaign, I talk about him. And I'm sure Barack Obama talks about Donald Trump all the time because he knows his legacy doesn't stack up. Besides being the first African American president, all he's done was Obamacare and bin Laden and Obamacare is constantly bankrupt that we need to keep bailing it out. He knows it, everybody else knows it. And his library looks dumb. He's like the guy walking around with a zipper down and no one will tell him because he doesn't have any

[Greg Gutfeld]

friends is a mental image. Dana, since you're laughing, I might not be able to answer. If Obama has a suite in Trump's head, Biden would have a whole floor. Isn't it? Because the idea here is that Trump is undoing stuff that came before.

[Dana Perino]

I guess so. And also, like, nobody paved the way more for President Trump than Barack Obama. Exactly right. So it's basically, if you remember what Obama said about Romney and Paul Ryan. Basically, it was like you're Hitler and Mao and Stalin all put together and you want to kill Americans and throw them off the cliff. And then when he said that, he didn't have time to think about his predecessors because they're gone. Do you know how many times Barack Obama said, get a mop, I have to clean this up?

[Greg Gutfeld]

394, probably.

[Dana Perino]

Maybe even more than that, because I would be asked about it all the time. So I think that what the Republicans did, and this often happens, the country will do the opposite of whatever came before. So they went and then the country did Biden and like, okay, wait, no, actually we didn't want.

[Jesse Waters]

What's the opposite of Trump?

[Dana Perino]

Well, it was Biden and now. You mean what's the next opposite of Trump?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Aoc, a short socialist woman who's dirt poor nominee. Jessica, let's talk about things that never happened. So they asked Obama about the library and he said, I wish it was less about me. It's the Obama presidential library. I wish it was less about me. And then she says to him, well, then who should it be about. And he says, gandhi.

[Jesse Waters]

What?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Gandhi?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, Gandhi. Yeah, that's who he invoked. Gandhi. Just answer me. Just one civil.

[Dana Perino]

Do you believe it?

[Paul Morrow]

I mean, so I just finished reading Regime Change.

[Dana Perino]

You finished it already?

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

It's like 500 pages.

[Paul Morrow]

Like 450. It's really good, though. And Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan have this great anecdote about how Donald Trump says that a presidential historian said he was more powerful than, like, Hitler and Mao and Stalin. And they're like, who's this historian? And he's like, I met him with Gary Player. And then they go and find out who it is, and it's actually Gary Player's caddy. So Barack Obama bringing up Gandhi sounds a lot better to me than Donald Trump saying that he's more powerful than Hitler. Or what's more interesting, in other words, what's more interesting?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Which is why you told the anecdote, which I've already heard 17 times.

[Greg Gutfeld]

The Gandhi thing, I just find very hard to believe. I mean, is he really talking? I wish my own library were more about Gandhi. Like, I mean.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I mean, really.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I mean, are we at that point? Greg, take us home.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I have a couple of things I want to say. Number one, it's when you're a successor, it's always kind of normal to think about the person before you as the most powerful name at Fox. I still think about O'Reilly once in a while. My thoughts will just go back to me going in on the O'Reilly Factor with Bernie sitting there, O'Reilly looking at me, giving me guff, telling me to keep it pithy.

[Jesse Waters]

I think about Tucker constantly.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Exactly. But here's the deal. When people say they accuse you of living in their head or, ooh, I must have touched a nerve. It's always after they initiate something, they'll, like, say something bad or do something bad, and then you respond, and your response is somehow an obsession because they cannot defend what they say. Instead, they go, ooh, ooh, look who's living rent free in your head. Libs accuse us of obsessing over a number of things. The culture war issues. Who initiated that stuff? It wasn't us. How about race? They say, oh, why do you care about. We don't care about race. We never. You guys brought that up. DEI is dead, but you guys started it. They say we obsess over bathrooms and high school sports. We didn't want to. You guys created the bathroom issue and put dudes in girls sports. And then you accuse us of obsessing.

[Dana Perino]

Noticing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, yeah. Of note. Suddenly we're noticing. They say we obsess over guns. No, we're not. We just know that you want to take them from us. And you say that we. You say we obsess over. Cancel culture and wokeism again. We didn't invent it, but we'll fight it. And don't accuse us of being obsessed over something that you're trying to take away from us. You called everybody a Nazi and now you accuse us of obsessing over Platner. Isn't that rich? I'll stop there. I think I proved my case.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Let's recognize something, too. You need ID to get into Obama's building, into that library, right? You gotta have ideas.

[Paul Morrow]

Take voter vote.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So let's put the voting boots inside the Obama library.

[Dana Perino]

Don't give them any ideas.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, coming up next, Supergirl went super woke. Now the box office may go super broke.

[Dana Perino]

The new Supergirl movie is getting super trashed by critics. The summer flick that opens this weekend is tracking for around a $200 million loss. And the reviews are kryptonite. Variety said it was, quote, so flat. It's super horrendous and has the worst script ever. Some say that woke remarks from the movie star Millie Alcock have hurt sales. Like Supergirl is by.

[Paul Morrow]

I think that what makes this film

[Dana Perino]

so beautiful is that it's not centered around a man.

[Paul Morrow]

It's not centered around love at all,

[Dana Perino]

if anything, but should probably go both ways. You could have written it, Greg. You should have.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Can't believe the reviewer called Supergirl flat. Haven't we moved beyond body? Like obsession over body parts? It makes me sick. You know, here's the thing. There's a lot of hypocrisy with Supergirl in that her qualities are still derived from masculinity. Superman is about masculine power. Supergirl, as Tom Shalhou pointed out on my show, should have been about, like, super feminine powers. Could you imagine how daring and edgy that movie would be?

[Jesse Waters]

Like seduction?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, I came up with. But imagine the meeting they would have, the writers and the producers.

[Jesse Waters]

How like.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Because the thing about Hollywood is they can't admit that femininity exists. There's no such thing as feminine charms. It's just, you go girl, you act like a boy. But could you, like, imagine her superpowers? You know, social diplomacy, persuasion through charm, healing. But my favorite would be maternal authority. Her superpower is her ability to pull her legs apart and fire a baby at you out of her womb. Hundreds of super baby, machine gun baby Machine gun babies. And they're like, super adorable, but they're deadly. And the babies fly out at you and they smother you with kisses. And then that Supergirl, she has like this. She has a fertility power.

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah, that would get a lot more people.

[Dana Perino]

You think that's going to work?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I think that movie's been made already. Well, you know, the Brady Bomb. The thing is this, you hear from, we don't want anywhere over here. We don't want any discrimination against gays. Let's just put that out at the top, okay? Now, we've been hearing for my whole life that it's not a choice. It's who I am. And yet, somehow or other, this young woman, as you hear so often, starts talking about being bisexual or homosexual as if it's an achievement. I thought it's just how you were born. What happened? Did I miss something? Do we change the narrative? That doesn't mean anything in relation to the fact that you're supposed to be an entertaining us. I don't care about their sexuality. And if you want to talk about sexuality, let's recognize something. She's from another planet. And any. Any sex with her would be fatal. She's not human. All right, so it's a ridiculous narrative. I can't wait not to see this movie.

[Dana Perino]

$200 million loss is a lot.

[Paul Morrow]

It is a lot. And it bucks the trend. People are actually starting to go back to the movies more, so they, I guess, are not getting the attention from it. All the kids movies are great, though.

[Dana Perino]

Okay. Jesse, will you be going to see this this weekend?

[Jesse Waters]

No man will ever see this movie. And most women won't see it. The ones that do, there's just not enough of them to make money from the movie, if you know what I mean. But the whole bisexual thing, I think Greg agrees. Guys don't get into that. Maybe that's cool when you're 18, but when a girl's bisexual, we don't trust her. We don't trust her. And the ones I've met are super weird. So to say you're bisexual. It's not a turn on. It's not a turn on.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Do you think they're just trying to turn you off?

[Jesse Waters]

I haven't considered that.

[Dana Perino]

All right, coming up. Why? Playing it safe at dinner isn't playing it safe at all.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Take me to church showers like a dog at the front of the street.

[Paul Morrow]

You're not boring if you order the same meal over and over again. In fact, a new article argues it's actually A quiet form of self respect. Why? Because you're not trying to impress anybody. You already know what makes you happy. Dana, early commentary we heard there. This is stupid. But what else?

[Dana Perino]

Well, the thing is, is that, you know, as Greg points out, there are summer stories. And this is a summer story. Like, also, who cares? I don't care what you order at the restaurant. I like to try to have a little variety. But, yeah, if you like what you like what you like, and then you can pay for it, that's what you get. Who wrote this?

[Jesse Waters]

Well, I don't want to say the name of the restaurant because I don't want many people going to it. So whenever I go there, I sit down, I get this shrimp, lobster tail and scallop appetizer. And then I get the starter pasta dish, which is this rigatoni carbonara. And then I do this sola oreganata. You would have loved it there. And I get it every time, Paul. Every time.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I've never been invited.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, you wouldn't like the red lab, sir.

[Jesse Waters]

It's all you can eat.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, to mix scallops.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Look, let's tease out what's really going on here. Number one, as we were telling this story, a whole team of psychologists just got $15 million in funding, likely from tax money, for another study that means nothing to anybody. Number two, this is what they came out with. The difference between maximizers and satisfiers. And if you're a satisfier, you order the same thing every time. In other words, you're boring. Sorry, Jesse. But if you are a maximizer, you try different things and you try to keep going. In other words, if you're a satisfier and you just want just enough, you're a communist.

[Paul Morrow]

I didn't expect to end there, Greg.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, here's the deal. I think about so many things every day. There are two things I don't want to think about. What I eat and how I get home for lunch. Every day for the last three months, I've had the same thing. Two sirloin burgers from Carnegie Deli. No bun. I've lost £15. Think about it. This is the difference between men and women. I'll have a long, busy day, and I don't want to discuss what we could have for dinner. I don't care. But women, they could talk about dinner forever. No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Where to go, where to go. Because they're starving.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yes, they're always starving.

[Jesse Waters]

They haven't eaten lunch. I have.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I'm starving. Women are never Hungry. They're starving. They're never like, a little cold. They're like, I'm freezing to death. I'm starving.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And they never want dessert until yours disappears.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, no. If they say they don't want it, they really want yours.

[Dana Perino]

Everything you said is true.

[Paul Morrow]

And the I don't have an opinion about what we order. I actually like nothing. Sounds good.

[Dana Perino]

I actually don't want to talk about what we're gonna have for dinner. I just want dinner to magically appear.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, well, that'll happen.

[Paul Morrow]

One more thing is up.

[Jesse Waters]

So stingy. Gutfeld. It's time now for one more thing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Dana.

[Dana Perino]

Well, I wanted to just take a moment to wish Janice DEAN well. After 22 years here at Fox News, she is stepping away. She is going to focus on her health. An amazing talent. She brought joy to millions of people. Wonderful author. Also loved the Dean's List on radio. And we wish Janice and her family the best.

[Jesse Waters]

We do, Greg.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right. Tonight we got a great show. Check this out. We got Tim Harlan Williams is back. Love him. Dr. Drew Tyrus. That's an all star cast. Up next, Greg. Sexy Fish news with Brett Hume. Meet the kissing gouramis, also known as the kissing fish.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Two kissing fish lock lips, but they're not really kissing. It's a test of strength, the ritualized form of combat to determine who dominates the territory. I used to do this with my good friend Juan Williams. Females release up to a thousand oily eggs onto floating vegetation. Dana. Much like that Supergirl hero Mr. Gutfeld was talking about.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He's such a sharp wit.

[Jessica Tarlov]

He really is brilliant. No wonder he doesn't want to do special reports.

[Jesse Waters]

Give me a kiss.

[Dana Perino]

Brook.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm not bisexual. I promise.

[Jesse Waters]

All right. We have the Hope Through Education Sporting Clays classic this morning. It's a great organization providing scholarships and values based academic opportunities to disadvantaged kids. Great day for Justin and Bailey. Very proud of them. Tonight, Jesse Waters, primetime Happy DEI Thursday. But Johnny was at the Obama library, so you got to watch at 8 o' clock Eastern. Jessica definitely will be watching.

[Paul Morrow]

Absolutely. I watch every night. Okay. Sorry. Yes, there's a missing giraffe. We have barely any time. Three years old, Gracie, missing for nearly two weeks after escaping her enclosure. Find her.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't think he's missing.

[Jesse Waters]

She.

[Greg Gutfeld]

She. Whatever. Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe

[Jessica Tarlov]

wherever you get your podcasts.