Liberal Mag: Woke Is Back And Meaner Than Ever

Summary

---

The Five – "Liberal Mag: Woke Is Back And Meaner Than Ever"

Date: February 3, 2026
Host: Jesse Watters
Panel: Greg Gutfeld, Dana Perino, Jessica Tarlov, Brian Kilmeade
Podcast: FOX News Podcasts

---

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the resurgence and evolution of "woke" activism in America, recently framed by Vanity Fair as "Woke 2.0"—meaner, less about online posturing, and more about real-world chaos. The panel debates the left's shifts on issues like immigration enforcement, lawlessness in progressive cities, and the push for and backlash against transgender medical interventions for minors. Local governance failures, notably in New York City, and the challenges facing the Democratic Party in the 2024 cycle also take the spotlight.

---

Main Themes & Key Discussion Points

1. "Woke 2.0": From Online Virtue to Street-Level Chaos

• [01:10–05:57]
  • Vanity Fair's claims that "woke" is back, now meaner than ever, with activists showing up in real life (e.g., "whistle mommies" in Minneapolis establishing checkpoints).
  • Panel critiques: leftist activism escalates beyond DEI, now intimidating everyday citizens and law enforcement.
  • Greg Gutfeld draws historical parallels, likening the current leftist fringe to Bolsheviks and the Manson Family, arguing they use fear, intimidation, and even exploit women and children for revolutionary fervor:

    "Like, Woke is like a bar that was hip for a couple of years, then got a bad reputation...Today's Woke-ism? It's the worst of the worst. They don't have anywhere else to go." – Greg Gutfeld [03:40]

  • Media's role: CNN is critiqued for glorifying teens acting as "ICE watchers".

2. Immigration, ICE Enforcement & Democrat Overreach

• [05:57–14:39]
  • Growing public mistrust towards ICE and perceptions that they go too far, with references to recent polls:

    "59% of Americans—this is our own Fox poll—say that ICE has gone too far with deportations, including 71% of independents." – Jessica Tarlov [10:57]

  • Panel lambasts confusion between legitimate law enforcement and politically motivated defamation of agencies like ICE.
  • Dana Perino distinguishes between the "first wave" of woke (DEI, BLM, George Floyd protests) and the darker, more confrontational Woke 2.0:

    "In Woke 1, they started with DEI...In fact, that was the number one book in the country...But I thought about it. Woke 2 is a lot different. Woke 2 started in these cities like Chicago, these cesspools like Minneapolis..." – Dana Perino [13:00]

3. Local Governance in Crisis: NYC in "Free Fall"

• [17:02–25:25]
  • Critiques of New York City's Mayor Zoran Mamdani for mishandling snow, garbage, and especially the deaths of 16 homeless people during a freeze.
  • Mayoral defense: The deceased were "not in encampments," but panel lambasts policy to halt encampment clearances.
  • Jesse Watters draws a parallel to the "Cobra Effect," warning that incentivizing the wrong solution amplifies the problem:

    "They’re throwing all this money at the homeless, and people don’t realize that’s not gonna make [homelessness] disappear...We’re creating homeless people to make money off of." – Jesse Watters [20:22]

  • Left and right unite in frustration over basic service failures; Jessica Tarlov recounts her husband shoveling safer paths for schoolchildren, calling for more community engagement [22:30].
  • Greg Gutfeld criticizes the idea that private citizens must pick up government slack:

    "I probably spend six to seven figures in taxes in New York City, so I don’t have to get out and shovel every corner of my sidewalk..." [23:37]

4. Transgender Surgeries & Medical Malpractice for Minors

• [26:19–32:09]
  • Jury in NY awards $2 million to a detransitioner who underwent irreversible surgery as a minor; 28 similar cases pending.
  • Medical guidelines shifting: American Society of Plastic Surgeons now advises no gender surgeries on minors under 19.
  • Greg Gutfeld is relentless, calling it medical abuse:

    "This is truly Hitlerian—experimenting on children. If I had my way, they’d be put on trial and imprisoned..." [26:58] "Children were being butchered and [the media] saluted it. And now they're kind of like, 'well, this never happened.'" [27:41]

  • Jesse Watters notes Europe’s more conservative position, suggests evidence shows most gender-dysphoric kids resolve naturally without surgery [28:44].
  • Jessica Tarlov counters by noting the small absolute number of regret/suits, but agrees rogue doctors should be punished, clarifying most regret rates in studies are low [29:57].

5. Democratic Party Dilemmas: Biden’s Age and 2024 Challenges

• [33:06–36:27]
  • Democrats face difficult optics as age and candidate quality issues dog their Senate races.
  • Maine Gov. Janet Mills distances herself from Biden:

    "I’m not Joe Biden, for God’s sake. I’m healthy." – Janet Mills (audio clip), spotlighted by Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld [33:29]

  • Discussion of opponent, Graham Platner, and his problematic past.
  • Panel jokes about the perils of far-out choices (Nazi tattoos), with both sides exasperated by the extremes on the ballot.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Greg Gutfeld on "Woke 2.0":

  "What you're redefining is actually just a more demented version of what you already rejected. And it goes even back further...The Bolsheviks, a radical minority trying to impose their will and power on the majority." [04:25]

• On ICE and media influence:

  "Why do you feel the need to make people feel scared that their children are gonna be taken from schools when that hasn't happened...? Because they're listening to you say these things." – Greg Gutfeld to Jessica Tarlov [11:29]

• On local community action in NYC:

  "One thing that I think could really improve the quality of life is if people would actually help out in their own communities." – Jessica Tarlov [22:43]

• On transgender lawsuits:

  "If you were called transphobic over this, that was a compliment because that meant that you were right all along. One reporter asked me, why do you care? I’ll never forget that. And I said to him, why don’t you?" – Greg Gutfeld [28:17]

• On the politics of age & candidates:

  "You have a choice between a woman who might pass away in office and a Nazi, and they won’t even consider the Republican." – Jesse Watters, referencing Maine’s Senate race [36:02]

---

Timestamps for Major Segments

• [01:10–05:57] – "Woke 2.0" and escalation of activism
• [05:57–14:39] – ICE, immigration, and left vs. right outrage
• [17:02–25:25] – New York’s homeless and city management crisis
• [26:19–32:09] – Transgender surgeries for minors and legal pushback
• [33:06–36:27] – Democratic Party, Biden’s age, and Senate campaign drama
• [37:09–39:13] – Light segment: Minivans & changing family life
• [39:13–end] – "One More Thing": Panel's personal notes and stories

---

Tone & Style

The episode features the familiar mix of combative banter and pointed satire characteristic of The Five. The panel oscillates between biting criticism ("Woke is just a more demented version," "children were being butchered and they saluted it") and moments of levity (minivan jokes, shoveling snow, and the "National Wash Jerry Nadler Day" riff). Throughout, panelists sharply distinguish their positions and challenge each other, especially on vulnerable topics like ICE enforcement and transgender care.

---

Summary Takeaways

• "Woke" activism has, in the panel’s view, entered a more aggressive phase, spilling into community disruption and alienating many Americans.
• Both ICE’s actions and left-wing rhetoric toward it have polarized public opinion, with deep concern over the consequences for those caught in the middle.
• Urban governance challenges, especially in progressive cities, are highlighted as evidence of failed left policies—garbage, snow, homelessness, death, and political back-biting.
• The legal reckoning over transgender medical interventions for minors is escalating, with both medical and social consensus shifting toward more caution.
• The Democratic Party faces a fractious 2024, managing internal splits over Biden, candidate quality, and the broader public’s appetite for extremism.

---

For listeners who missed the episode, this summary offers a thorough snapshot of the central debates, strong panelist opinions, and a sense of the episode’s kinetic, often acerbic energy.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

This year's tax changes better not get caught snoozing. Miss one deduction, lose thousands.

[Jesse Waters]

Not amusing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Big tax changes can mean bigger refunds at Jackson Hewitt. And right now get $100 just to try them.

[Dana Perino]

Don't worry tax filers.

[Greg Gutfeld]

If money is tight, get a hundred dollars from Jackson Hewitt so you'll sleep better at night.

[Jesse Waters]

Limited time offer for new clients.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Participating locations only.

[Dana Perino]

[e-mail] you're a small business owner, but that means you're a lot of other things too. Accountant, handyman, payroll specialist and IT expert, just to name a few. So how about you let Capitas make at least one thing easy for you. Capitas is the home of small business financing made simple. Compare multiple offers at once for business loans, lines of credit, equipment financing, revenue based financing and more. No appointments, no waiting days for approval. Up your cash flow and grow your business with capitas. Today start an [e-mail] that's K A P I T U S dot com.

[Jesse Waters]

Hello everybody. I'm Jesse Waters along with Brian Kilmeade, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. This isn't your grandfather's woke Vanity Fairs declaring that woke is back and meaner than ever. They call it woke 2.0. It's focused less on resistance style online posts and more on street level chaos. Case in point, the whistle mommies of Minneapolis have a chop style zone. And like trolls under a bridge, they're setting up checkpoints to stop cars, harass drivers checking license plates to make sure they aren't ICE agents. Why do they feel so emboldened? Well, maybe it's because Democrats keep calling ICE agents thugs.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

They are just thugs running through our streets and we have to figure out what we can do to stop them.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The greatest threat to the homeland right now is called the Department of Homeland Security.

[Dana Perino]

The attacks on American citizens by masked hoodlums.

[Greg Gutfeld]

If you were attacked by a masked.

[Dana Perino]

Person, you might think you were being kidnapped. You'd be justified in shooting the person.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We see people being shot. For what? For driving a car. We see people, we see these. The ICE goons break into people's homes without a warrant.

[Jesse Waters]

And the media is doing their part. Check out this story. CNN glorified two homeschooled Chicago teenagers who were quote, trained ICE watchers in Minneapolis. Speaking of cnn, the network's disgraced former anchor Don Lemon took his pity toward a Kimmel to moan about how unfairly he's been treated after being arrested for storming a Church in St. Paul.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Listen, I'm not a protester. I went there to be a journalist. I went there to chronicle and document and record what was happening. I was following that one group around, and so that's what I did.

[Dana Perino]

I reported on them.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And so.

[Dana Perino]

But I do think that there is.

[Greg Gutfeld]

A difference between a protester and a journalist. They want to embarrass you. They want to intimidate you. They want to instill fear. And so that's why they did it that way.

[Jesse Waters]

Greg, did you watch Kimmel interview Don Lemon last night?

[Greg Gutfeld]

No. I had better things to do, like scraping my eyes out. You know what is okay, number one, I'm tired of hearing people add 2.0 to things, you know, like kill me 2.0. What does that mean? More of kill me.

[Dana Perino]

But I know what you mean.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know what I mean? But I feel like the. Like, Woke is like a bar that was hip for a couple of years, then it got a bad reputation. The drinks were watered down, the people who worked there were rude and drugged out. And then customers just left. Except for the hardcore derelicts that have nowhere else to go. That's the mod. That's today's Woke ism. It's the worst of the worst. They don't have anywhere else to go. Even companies with DEI are not going to hire somebody from an tifa. That is why none of these people have jobs. So Woke isn't back. It never left. In the 90s and the 2000s, you called it politically correct, which dissipated and then again left that concentrated, reduced matter, which then became Woke. And then now you have this stuff. And it's alarming because people keep trying to redefine it. And yet what you're redefining is actually just a more demented version of what you already rejected. And it goes even back further if you go back to the revolutions. The Bolsheviks, a radical minority trying to impose their will and power on the majority. And they can only do that through fear, intimidation, organized violence, oppression. And the way they often do that is they use women and children. Why? Because children don't know any better. And it's frightening to see it happen. And women can have their compassion and their emotions hijacked. And they're often the most passionate revolutionaries. I mean, the Manson Family, that was. Those murders were done by young women who believed in a cause. And when you talk to them, they don't even know why. What his last point is, what's striking about the Democrat Party is that they're willing to risk a civil war over this. They are pushing for the war. They want the Fort Sumter, as Walt said. So why did the Dems trigger the Civil War in 1861? It was to continue slavery. And here it's a continue illegal immigration. There's something about Democrats and cheap labor. You know, they love to control the poor and put them to work in South Carolina with slaves. In Minneapolis, that's 130,000 illegals. Except now they don't just want their labor, they want their vote.

[Jesse Waters]

CNN glorifying these two kids in like sub zero temperature stain and blowing whistles at cops. That's kind of propaganda.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

It's also sort of weird to have in your subhead basically asking teenagers if taking action like this, the subhead says, and they will never regret it. You think? I mean, maybe. Let's see how that goes. When, as you were pointing out, like who's hiring these people that are being caught as a part of the protest? The Democrats have this incredible tendency to overread political wins. And so, yes, there were changes that happened in Minneapolis because of actions that were taken by Border Patrol that has been overall branded with an umbrella as anti ice. And you see that there is enough problem that the president says, okay, I'm going to make a change. He makes a change. And the Democrats automatically think, oh, everybody's for what I'm for now. And it's maddening. And they do this to themselves over and over again. And then they over promise to their voters, for example, with the shutdown thing, they're like, we're going to shut down ice. Well, guys, actually ICE is already funded through. They over promise to their voters and then they under deliver. And what you find is that, yes, maybe there are some independents in America who are saying, yeah, I can't be for this. That's not what I voted for. I'm willing to look at the Democrats. And then when you look deeper into the polling and you see that still the Democrats are not trusted on the main issues that people care about the most. The economy being the first.

[Jesse Waters]

Don Lemon, I don't think you've weighed in on Don Lemon, Jessica. Do you think he's being unfairly targeted by the Justice Department?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, a magistrate judge and another judge both wouldn't take it up. So. Okay.

[Jesse Waters]

Second judge said they could move forward.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay, all right. So just one big rejection and then somebody else who, you know, said we could move forward with it.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

Sure.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, we'll see where it goes. He'll have his day in Court, I guess if it gets there. I think that this is another case of personal vendetta. We know that the administration not big fans of Don Lemon, and I think making the argument that he was the same as a protester is a little rich, but let it play out. I'm not here to dunk on Don Lemon with the same kind of excitement that all of you.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So it did bother you what he did.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I. I think I went first that day and I said, I think this is unacceptable, especially when you hear children in there and that we have had so many attacks on houses of worship that if anyone in that building thought that someone had walked in with an AR15 and was about to blow their brains out, that it was unacceptable. So just to rehash that's what I think about doing that sounded like you.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I also there I was worried.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, I also think that ICE should not operate anywhere near a house of worship, which they have been. And they've been picking people up even to protect us. That's not what ICE is doing there. I want to have a calm week. So I'm going to ease my way into what I'm about to say and just say I have accepted the other side's vantage point on this, which is, as you say, Greg, this chaos was caused by you. Right. That Biden left the border open, even though all of the people who have completely unjustly. And it is horrible that anyone was killed by someone who was here undocumented. They weren't all let in by Joe Biden. But whatever it is. So let's say that the chaos, we brought it on ourselves. You're going to have to do better in making the case to regular American citizens who are watching this play out. And that's everyone from mom who has never been politically active, to dads who just want to go to work, who are now showing up at schools in Minneapolis at 7 o' clock in the morning to guard the doors to make sure that kids, kids can get in and out of school and aren't going to get picked up, you have to make the case to them. You have to make the case to people like Rand Paul and Newt Gingrich and Pete Ricketts, hardcore conservatives that are seeing how ICE is behaving and what they're doing and saying this is unacceptable and it's not the way it's supposed to be, which Tom Holman acknowledged. As Dana said, the chaos that these loony leftists are creating are also not making ICE violate court orders at levels that judges have not Seen before this conservative Minnesota Chief Justice Schultz is his name said that they violated more court orders in a month in January than some federal agencies in their entire existence since 20, since July. So just over the summer, 2300 judges have had to weigh in to say that people were denied their due process. And that includes sometimes American citizens, which should, for a good conservative, really rile you up. 59% of Americans. This is our own Fox poll say that ICE has gone too far with the deportations, including 71% of independents. Now, I agree with you, Dana. I don't want to read too much into any of this in terms of elections. We just had those two special elections in Texas which were, you know, pretty seismic shift towards Democrats with Republicans who voted in the Republican primary just showing up to voice their discontent with how the Republican Party is operating. I don't want to rest on our laurels about it. And we need law enforcement, we need the bad hombres out. But just dismissing and saying this is all our fault and that we're going to take it that way is not how it's going to play out politically and it's not how to make the country safer.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, can I just say something? Can I just. Yeah, I'm going to respond because you say, you cite that people think ICE has gone too far. Why? Because in your same commentary you said children were scared of being abducted from their schools. Okay, so why do you feel the need to make people feel scared that their children are gonna be taken from schools when that hasn't happened? People who are citizens, who are not criminals, their children aren't getting kidnapped. So when you say, you know, people think ICE has gone too far, it's because they're listening to you say these things.

[Jessica Tarlov]

They're using their own eyes. So they're seeing the big.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They're seeing children being kidnapped from school.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The Alex Proddy's of the world. They're seeing people who have been not.

[Greg Gutfeld]

A child who was kidnapped from a school.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I said they are seen as a.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Guy that ran around with a gun.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It was his. That argument is failing that. Yes, he should be dead.

[Dana Perino]

Well, did I say that? Did I say that? Did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So 73. Poke a bear. Don't, don't blame him.

[Dana Perino]

73% say criminal legal blame you. 73% say criminal legal should be deported. 67% of the country wants state and local officials criminals out cooperate with federal officials. So they're not doing that. And people would think by watching certain networks that everybody is against ICE and border Patrol. And what I think the difference between Woke 1 and Woke 2 is very simple. In Woke 1, they started with this DEI and other things and the George Floyd thing happens and people start saying, well, maybe America is inherently racist. Maybe we should have people anchors on SportsCenter CRY. Maybe we should have football players take a knee. Maybe we should have history professors talk about how bad America is and how we're basically 16, 19 project. That's really what we're about. In fact, that was the number one book in the country for a while. But I thought about it. Woke 2 is a lot different. Woke 2 started in these cities like Chicago, these cesspools like Minneapolis where they go in to get the criminals out and people stand up mysteriously just against Donald Trump. They had no problem. When Barack Obama was doing it the same, this is what happened. Tom Homan was there. They would come to the jails and they would take the criminals out and the locals would say thank you. But suddenly Democrats didn't like the label deporter in chief. So Trump gets elected. They say, we're going to put a stop to that. So when Trump goes to do it even more tense way with a wall, they said, we're going to stop the wall. We're going to make everything a sanctuary city. We're going to fight it out. But here's the problem. Woke 2 is not growing past the nucleus. No one is jumping on the Woke 2 bandwagon. When they jumped on Woke 1, as they say here it is now darker and more foreboding since the fatal shootings. Yeah, but people are saying, hey, within reason, Minneapolis, you might be upset by the two shootings and there should be investigation and there will be. Tom Homan comes in to moderate things and he will actually do that. And he has been doing that. But the target of ICE ridiculing the entire organization. These are American citizens who are law enforcement. And you think you're going to get away by saying it's defund the police, let's abolish ice, abolish the police. Americans are not for any of those things. And I think we're seeing the play out right now.

[Jesse Waters]

All right, thank you. Fox News alert Police giving an update earlier today on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of today's show anchor Savannah Guthrie. Jonathan Hunt is in Tucson with the latest. Jonathan?

[Jonathan Hunt]

Jesse, we got very few answers to the many questions today surrounding the abduction of Nancy Guthrie from the sheriff at a rather bizarre press conference, for instance, he was asked if he believed the 84 year old was taken from her home here in Tucson by one more people. His answer, quote, no clue. He was asked if he believes that investigators are searching for someone who is still alive. His answer, quote, we hope we are. Now. The sheriff did confirm that they have found DNA on the property Nancy Guthrie's home, but he did not confirm the reporting of Fox Digital that that DNA is comprised of the blood drops. The sheriff did say, though the only match they have so far found to any DNA found at the crime scene is to Nancy Guthrie herself. He said job number one for them now is to start from the beginning when Nancy Guthrie was last seen. That according to a family member who dropped her at her home was around 9:30pm Saturday night. And he said we go from there. As for the question of a ransom note, TMZ reporting tonight, along with at least one other local media outlet here that they TMZ received a ransom note. It did, according to tmz, include details that are not known publicly, such as what Nancy Guthrie was wearing when she was abducted. TMZ says they have forwarded that note to law enforcement. The Pima County Sheriff's office behind me here just released a statement saying simply that they are aware of reports of a ransom note. They are continuing to follow all tips and leads.

[Jesse Waters]

Jesse, thanks so much, Jonathan. Coming up, mountains of garbage, snow choked sidewalks and the homeless dying in the streets. New York City is in free fall under Zoran the Destroyer.

[Dana Perino]

Don't leave me burning here in a.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Fire all by myself. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series the Life of.

[Dana Perino]

Jesus, a listening experience that will provide hope, comfort and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow [e-mail] or wherever you listen to podcasts. Look at this dirt. Where's the mayor? The cleanness of the garbage everywhere. Dirty snow. What do you do with this? Actor Michael Rappaport saying what a lot of New Yorkers are thinking right now. Locals are furious over Mayor and Zoran Mamdani. Slow and poor. Snow and garbage cleanup more than a week since the monster storm. And that's not the worst of it. The mayor announcing 16 homeless people died outside in the freezing cold during the arctic deep freeze. 13 of hypothermia, 3 of overdose death. Now you have critics blaming Mondame's decision just weeks ago to tell cops and sanitation workers to stop clearing up homeless encampments. But Zoran says none of the victims were found in encampments here's the mayor today telling reporters he did everything he could.

[Jonathan Hunt]

Outreach teams have traversed the city making every possible effort to bring vulnerable and homeless New Yorkers in from the cold. We have now made more than 980 placements into shelters and safe havens since Monday the 19th. The number of New Yorkers who have passed away during this code Blue remains at 16. That does not mean that the danger, however, has passed. If you see someone in need, please call 31 1. Outreach workers and first responders from NYPD and FDNY will respond and get those New Yorkers the help that they need.

[Dana Perino]

They were outside. They did have hypothermia. But it wasn't because they were outside, Jesse, that they died. Figure that out.

[Jesse Waters]

In 19th century India under British colonial rule, there were all these venomous cobras that were all over the streets of Delhi, and it was freaking out all of the British families. So they created a program where the residents would get money for every dead cobra they'd bring in. So what did the residents do? They started breeding the cobras in order to make money. And they were making a living off this program. And the British found out about it and they stopped the program. And all the breeders were angry because they weren't getting paid anymore. So they unleashed all of the cobras onto the streets. It tripled the venomous cobra population in the city. And then, you know what else happened? This is the same thing that's happening with Democrats, right?

[Dana Perino]

The British end up leaving.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's the biggest analogy ever, right?

[Jesse Waters]

I'm sorry. We're unintended consequences of their policies. They're throwing all this money at the homeless, and people don't realize that's not gonna make homeless disappear. Because if you wanted to solve it, you just get them off the street, get them a job, but then the money stops, and then those people are out of a job. Twenty years ago, we were only spending a billion dollars on homeless. Right now, we're spending almost 4 billion.

[Dana Perino]

And his goal? Keep them homeless.

[Jesse Waters]

And the homeless population's gone from 20,000 in New York City to over 100,000.

[Dana Perino]

Right?

[Jesse Waters]

We are creating homeless people to make money off of.

[Dana Perino]

Right? And we probably learned it from India and Gavin Newsom.

[Jesse Waters]

Probably.

[Dana Perino]

Do you know what I'm struck at, Dana? I'm struck about how many critics he has on his own side. The Queensborough president wants some electricity. You have the city councilman, Savannah Hyneff of Brooklyn also wants 2,000. She's one of 2,000 in Park Slope, where socialists live. I guess with 2,000 without power, they're also hoping for some relief in Brooklyn from Chay osi. Are you surprised so many people that supported Mondame are quick to criticize him one month in?

[Unknown Female Contributor]

No, because this is all that really matters when you're in leadership is the competence of the quality of life. This is the main thing. This is the main thing. And if you can't get the main thing done right, you'll never be forgiven. Ask Bill de Blasio. In his first week or two on the job, when he first became mayor, there was a huge snowstorm here in New York. He never recovered. Remember all those streets that never got plowed? He forgot to close the schools. And then when they closed the schools, it was too late for the kids to get home. Now, I know that it's been super cold and it's hard to get this stuff to melt and that he's got a problem, but he's the one who said he could do everything. So if you cannot do the basics here, it's very unlikely that the people are going to support you when you come up with free grocery stores.

[Dana Perino]

Jessica, bad start.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So I thought that the first few weeks were actually going quite well with the universal childcare rollout. And he's, you know, he's out there and he's communicating also the videos about the summer programs. And I thought it was actually a very good start. This storm has been terrible and the cold, and I don't know what another mayor would have done necessarily differently. I think it does matter that the people who died didn't die in the homeless encampments, which he's being yelled about. And there are people who work in the homeless community who are saying that you absolutely have to expand the outreach hours, that they have to be going overtime. It has to be a 24 hour cycle that people are going around. They have these mobile heating units that people can come into to get warm if they don't want to go into the shelter system. So I'm not ready to go to. You know, it's been bad, but obviously there could be huge improvement. But one thing that I think could really improve the quality of life is if people would actually help out in their own communities in the city. And I think it's something that happens in the suburbs and in rural areas where you go and you help your neighbors. But my husband actually went out and bought shovels and he shoveled the corners of everywhere that we have to walk on our route to school because I could not get a stroller there. Were moms all over my neighborhood unable to get through snow drifts because where they had cleared, it wasn't even where, like, the ramp was to go down. And so he was out there doing it. And then people were coming out of their stores and doing it together. And there is a spirit that you can create if you are willing to, you know, put your ask, but also show by example. Like, we're living here together. And you don't. You lose track of that sometimes when you live in a city. But we can be doing more, too.

[Jesse Waters]

You know, that story really humanized you. Jessica, I really respect your husband. You should share more stories like that.

[Dana Perino]

All right, great. Do you have a story to share?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I have a story.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I. Greg then came.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I probably spend six to seven figures in taxes in New York City, so I don't have to get out and shovel every corner of my sidewalk. I will shovel every corner of my sidewalk if you stop forcing me to pay that much money in taxes. We should not even be having that kind of conversation. We should not be entertaining that. He said they weren't found in encampments. They weren't found in shelters. If they were allowed to take down the encampments and required them in shelters, all of those people would be alive. And finally, you see Debra Messing and Michael Rapport. At least they're protesting the right ice. No one wears a pin for the dead homeless. Why did Zoran stop the cops from taking down these encampments and getting protesters in there? Because it's a virtue signal. He's terrified of the left coming after him. And in the name of progressive progressivism, everybody has a right to die on the streets. Just as you have a right to be raped by an illegal migrant gang banger or OD on fentanyl or have your local business looted during the summer of love. They hijack compassion and then they invert it. So the evil guy. Who are the evil people? The police who want to take down the embankments and save the encampments and save the lives? Or the ICE agents who are rescuing missing kids? Or the police that are getting fentanyl off the streets? Those are the bad guys. I saved more people in a week than progressives have saved in a lifetime.

[Dana Perino]

Also, Staten island, very red area.

[Jesse Waters]

They're still waiting for the flowers.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, I'm wondering if that's coincidence.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't think Mom Dhumi even understands what a homeless person is. Homeless people do not have the ability to make decisions for themselves. We all know that, right?

[Dana Perino]

Coming up next, the Democrats Want a Repeat of they them 2024. But a landmark case on transgender surgeries for teenagers could force the issue.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

Starting a business can seem like a daunting task unless you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business. From designing a website to marketing, to selling and beyond, Shopify can help with everything you need. There's a reason millions of companies like Mattel Heinz and Allbirds continue to trust and use them. With Shopify on your side, turn your big business idea into sign up for.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Your $1 per month trial at shopify.com specialoffer.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

A landmark ruling on transgender surgeries for minors that could put some Democrats in the hot seat. A 22 year old biological woman who identified as a boy in her teen years was awarded nearly $2 million after suing the doctors who pushed her into irreversible gender surgery, which was a double mastectomy when she was just 16 years old. And get this, there are 28 similar lawsuits moving through the courts. Greg, what I think is interesting about this is so many things. You're the first person I thought of. But this wasn't just elites or people on TV saying that this was wrong. This is a jury who awarded the money.

[Greg Gutfeld]

This has just got to be the beginning. And we talked about this for years. At a minimum, these doctors should lose their licenses. There was no science to back up these decisions. Hardly. I mean, this is truly Hitlerian experimenting on children. If I had my way, they'd be put on trial and they would be imprisoned. And if I had the time, I would expose every single nurse, reporter, teacher, caregiver who allowed this disfigurement to take spread just so they could operate under this delusion that they cared about children. And the mainstream media is not gonna deal with this because they're part of it. They're complicit. Children were being butchered and they saluted it. And now they're kind of like going, well, this never happened. This is what they do with a lot of stories. And they threw girls under the bus, they threw boys under the. I think it's like the most evil thing I've ever seen in my lifetime and I've seen a lot and participated in. But people have questioned my focus on this for a long time. The Left Media Matters Human rights campaign had called me transphobic every time after I talked about this, as if there's a limit to disgust over the mutilation of children. And I think that if you were called transphobic over this, that was A compliment because that meant that you were right all along. One reporter asked me, why do you care? I'll never forget that. And I said to him, why don't you?

[Unknown Female Contributor]

The other thing, Jesse, that I was thinking about is that this wasn't a jury in Texas or Georgia. It was here in New York.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, Greg deserves credit, a little credit, but he definitely deserves credit because he was very out front on this. And I'm not.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You were sick of me talking about it.

[Jesse Waters]

It's because you were so graphic about it. Have some dignity. The American Society of Plastic Surgeons just came out with a huge statement. They now say they recommend that surgeons delay gender related breast chest genital surgeries until the patient is at least 19 years old. I mean, this is groundbreaking. People in Europe, the Norwegians, the Finns, the British, they've all come out and said, we're not going to touch a kid like that until they're at least 18. And these people are now saying there's growing evidence that it's going to backfire and that there is no evidence that someone's going to commit suicide if you don't do this. This suggests a proportion of children with this gender dysphoria, they resolve the issue. By the time they grow into adults, almost all of them resolve the issue. If there's no medical intervention and you just do nothing and so do no harm, that's the cornerstone of the medical community. That's where it should remain.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

Jessica, is that the kind of scientific decision making or consensus that Democrats could get behind what he's talking about here?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I think to a large degree, yes. I think that if there is still access to hormones, hormone therapy for kids who have not turned 18 yet, that that makes sense. And there are very few cases of this that is important to highlight and also that there are very few cases, 28 cases that are going to wind up through the courts of people that are suing their doctors for doing these surgeries that they say that they didn't want. It sounds like these doctors really violated the protocols and so they should be punished for that. Obviously, there's the fine. I don't know if they're going to look at their licenses. But I do think as well it's important to highlight the fact that the American Journal of Surgery, for instance, has looked at levels of regret for certain surgery types and that gender affirming surgery is less than 1% feel that way. Much higher ratios for people who have elective plastic surgery, for instance, or even big life decisions like having kids or getting a Tattoo.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, that's idiotic.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's not idiotic.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Come on.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It is.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Because, Jessica, the majority. I'm sorry, don't question me on this one. And I have to correct you. The overwhelming majority of d transitioners do not tell their doctors. They don't tell their. They just do it. The only ones you know about are the ones in the news. But the overwhelming majority d transition and they, and they don't talk to their doctors because it's so bad.

[Dana Perino]

And by the way, if you look at the laws, but if you look at the lawsuit, the lawyers say they point the finger at the psychologist that convinced the kid and told the parents, if you don't do this, your daughter's gonna commit suicide.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, and. Which was a complete bogus. It was a complete bogus scare tactic. Oh, if you wouldn't you rather have a live daughter than a dead son. That was the line they used over and over. You'd hear it on cnn. These bastards have to pay for what they've done. Right now you have a California attorney general who is suing hospitals over ending treatments among kids. The hormone thing is another story because there is permanent damage to hormones as well.

[Dana Perino]

This is just the beginning because they're going to have malpractice insurance. It's not going to insure these doctors. There's going to be huge pushback. I hope all these other 28 cases are positive for the victims.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

All right, let's get going. Up next, from the president to a punchline. Even Democrats are cracking jokes about Joe Biden.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, the holidays have come and gone once again.

[Dana Perino]

But if you've forgotten to get that special someone in your life a gift.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, Mint Mobile is extending their holiday.

[Dana Perino]

Offer of half off unlimited wireless.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So here's the idea.

[Jesse Waters]

You get it now, you call it.

[Dana Perino]

An early present for next year.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What do you have to lose?

[Dana Perino]

Give it a [e-mail] Switch limited time.

[Jessica Tarlov]

50 off regular price for new customers. Upfront payment required 45 for 3 months, $90 for 6 months or $180 for 12 month plan taxes and fees. Extra speeds may slow after 50 gigabytes per month when network is busy.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

See terms.

[Greg Gutfeld]

From commander in chief to Comic Relief, 78 year old Maine Democratic Governor Janet Mills is making Joe Biden the butt of a joke, all while reassuring voters that her age isn't a problem in a high stakes Senate race. One of the big concerns I hear.

[Jonathan Hunt]

About you is your age. You think that the memory in your.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Party about Joe Biden, is that going to be Too much for you to overcome. Good Lord.

[Dana Perino]

I'm not Joe Biden, for God's sake. I'm healthy.

[Greg Gutfeld]

People see me at work every day. They know that I can deliver and I have delivered. Jessica, what are your thoughts?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I think you're going to see two schools of thought. The Democrats that need to run against Biden and the ones that are hewing closer to him. That's what Gavin Newsom is doing. And then you see like Josh Shapiro and Janet Mills running in the other direction. And that's just how it goes. But I think a smarter strategy is definitely to make yourself openly critical. You can still be generous while criticizing aspects of the Biden Harris administration.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Dana.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

I think it's going to be difficult for her because I'm not. Joe Biden is ruthless. But then with her saying people see me at work every day, that's exactly what Joe Biden said. Now, obviously she can conduct herself a lot better than what we saw with Joe Biden. But this is a six year term and she's running against somebody named Graham Platner. He's like, yes, he's got Fetterman vibes. Right. Like he's.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And swastikas. Right.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

Unlike Fetterman, this guy has a Nazi tattoo and he's polling well ahead of her in the primary polls. Now, I know that Chuck Schumer believes that Janet Mills would be a much better general election candidate against the incumbent Susan Collins, but that might not be what happens there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Ooh, that makes me think of a great question. Maybe I'll ask Kilmeade. Should children be allowed to make decisions about having Nazi tattoos on them?

[Dana Perino]

Well, it's a great question. It's something too deep for me. I just can't get into it now. But a couple of things. This guy Planter is a riot. He denigrated police, he minimized sexual assault. He questioned black customers tipping ability and implied that white rural voters are racist and stupid. That's a good platform to rob us.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

And he's polling well ahead of that lady.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah. And instead of taking of his head to. I think he blotted it out which have a decision. You could take it off or just put a big X over it or a big blob so everyone has different tattoo decisions to make. Maybe after the show we'll discuss it. But for this woman in particular, which stands out to me, it's the last block. She also went to bat. Took on the President when the president said you should not have boys playing in girls sports. She went to bat to make sure it happened. You want that mindset. I'll tell you what I think that you have a. Susan Collins is going to have her hands full. She always got a tough race, but I think things are setting up. I think she's going to be fine with that ancient woman who wants to be senator.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Wow, ancient. We got another Don Lemon Jr. Over here.

[Jesse Waters]

Here's the problem with people like Jessica, okay? You have a choice between a woman who might pass away in office and a Nazi.

[Jessica Tarlov]

What?

[Jesse Waters]

A woman who might die in office and a Nazi. And they won't even consider the Republican.

[Dana Perino]

Yes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No.

[Dana Perino]

Susan Collins is going to win.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Susan Collins. I don't necessarily.

[Jesse Waters]

It's like the Republican is Susan Collins.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I know.

[Jesse Waters]

It's like, as close to a Democrat as you're gonna guess.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, Always is just, like, very concerned about things and then just falls in line.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay, go with the Nazi, then, Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I'll go with the old lady.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, yeah, okay. And then she turns into Biden.

[Dana Perino]

And by the way, they have a huge corruption problem in there. A lot of fraud.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, the Somalis are stealing.

[Dana Perino]

Back to Janet.

[Jesse Waters]

Manners.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Stop it.

[Jesse Waters]

We caught him cold. Jessica, watch the news.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I'm glad, though, that Susan Collins got them to take Ice out next. Welcome back. The Ultimate Dad Mobile is making a comeback. Last year, Minivan sales jumped 21% in the US mostly thanks to millennial dads leveling up their families and wanting more bang for their bucks. Jesse, I assume you don't have a minivan, you have a midsize suv.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, we get the suv. But if you're looking to cut costs and make things easier with the getting in and out of the car, which is the most challenging thing parents deal with, the sliding door to the minivan is just like, hello. Children come in and out, and they just run in. They can walk in, they can walk out. It's definitely an option. Yeah.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So, Dana, what I like about this, and it also relates to kind of the story of what's going on with millennial dads. They're doing three times the level of parenting that their dads did. And so it's like, we don't need the hot car. We need the useful car, because we're driving our kids around.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

I do not drive anymore. And I don't. I remember when my friends had a minivan, we didn't have a minivan, and I liked it. My friends that had the minivan, I liked to get in it because there was, like, Axe back there, the whole.

[Jessica Tarlov]

World in the back row of a minivan.

[Dana Perino]

The problem is that people had a reputation on a minivan. Oh, don't get a minivan. It's like you're giving in. Then you go travel and you rent a minivan. You realize how practical and cool it is to drive, how easy it is to manipulate in and out. So minivans got a bad rap. I love the fact that people are pushing back. SUVs are more expensive and not as practical. I love this new trend. America's a great country.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Also the sprinter van. I also enjoy, you know, where you can go.

[Dana Perino]

No luxury.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I don't like the name. What's the difference between a minivan and a van?

[Dana Perino]

A little smaller.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, they're not. I would call it a van 2.0. And I think this is discriminating against the just the guy with no kids. The single guy who wants a minivan.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, that's creepy.

[Jessica Tarlov]

He's definitely not to be trusted.

[Dana Perino]

Already suspicious.

[Jesse Waters]

That's a red flag.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah. Don't like when I see those guys. Okay, one More Thing's up next.

[Jesse Waters]

It's time now for One More Thing. Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, tonight we got a great show. Emily Campagno, Joe Mackey, Katie Miller, and Tyrus. That's tonight. Let's do a little celebrity stuff. Yeah. All right. I don't know if I'd call this guy a celebrity, but did you know that February 3rd is National Wash Jerry Nadler day. And they brought him out onto the rotunda where they hosed down Jerry Nadler. Do you know that he weighed in at £3,000?

[Jesse Waters]

He's lost a little weight.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Lost a little weight taking the shot. He looks remarkably. He looks remarkably like Balzac, which is a six year old walrus at the Point Defiance Zoo.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

Point Defiance.

[Jesse Waters]

First name basis with these fat walruses. You do get around.

[Dana Perino]

Dana.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

A round of applause to. I keep looking at that as if it's my camera, but it's hi. Hi, America. Okay, big kudos. The K9 unit. There's a dog named Bo in North Carolina and he helped authorities find a lost boy in the storm. So the boy had special needs. He managed to escape his little house during the winter storm without any appropriate clothing. They gave Beau a little bit of his scent and Beau was off to the races and they found him unharmed. So great work, Bo and the rest of the team down there.

[Jesse Waters]

All right, Fox Nation. Taking freestyle wrestling, mainstream Real American freestyle.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

I actually love this.

[Jesse Waters]

Hosted by UFC fighter Colby Covington. Watched the most explosive takedowns from the RAF matches. Learn more about Real American Freestyle wrestling and its world class athletes. Catch the brand new special RAF the greatest takedowns available now. FoxNation.com that actually looks really good.

[Dana Perino]

It is great.

[Jesse Waters]

Tonight Jesse Waters primetime Happy TDS Tuesday.

[Dana Perino]

Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't have tds. Congratulations, Kyle. This adorable two year old tabby cat, he is graduating. He's perseverant. They wrote it for me. He survived a coyote attack and completed his six month rabies quarantine and he got a graduation ceremony celebrating him being fully cleared and healthy. And now he needs to be adopted.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right. Don't tell my sister.

[Dana Perino]

No thanks. No. I catch. Meanwhile, Greg likes to watch me in on Fox Nation. Or you can watch me in person in Fort Myers, Florida history, liberty and laughs. And then Reno, Nevada. That's coming up on the 14th. I'm a romantic character. Who better to spend Valentine's Day with?

[Unknown Female Contributor]

You're a romantic character.

[Jesse Waters]

You're doing a Valentine's Day show.

[Dana Perino]

Well, she's going to. Yeah, she's going to be coming. I gave her 50% off tickets. It's a great deal. How long is your show?

[Jesse Waters]

It's.

[Dana Perino]

You think it's too long, right?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, your show is really long.

[Dana Perino]

Is there like no one, no one says why? I felt like I was.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

How long is it?

[Dana Perino]

It's about.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't know.

[Dana Perino]

I just keep going.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's like it's as long as Fox and Friends listen.

[Dana Perino]

Is that.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

Is that supposed to get money?

[Dana Perino]

But is it enjoyable, informative, entertaining and exciting?

[Jesse Waters]

I actually have heard that.

[Unknown Female Contributor]

I've heard that your show is amazing. My friends that went. Loved it it.

[Dana Perino]

Thank you for saving.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Gitmo.

[Jesse Waters]

Is your wife in the show?

[Dana Perino]

No, she's going to be.

[Jesse Waters]

She's just watching.

[Dana Perino]

She's going to watch the show. I'm going to get a pretty good tickets. Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Wherever you get your podcasts.