“Massive Life Support”

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Five – “Massive Life Support”

Date: May 11, 2026
Panelists: Emily Campagno (Host), Kellyanne Conway Kennedy, Charlie Hurt, Tom Sellew, Ryan Reynolds

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Main Theme and Purpose

This episode of "The Five" centers on escalating global tensions, political dynamics in the U.S., and cultural flashpoints. The hosts dive into the high-stakes situation with Iran, dissect intra-party Democrat debates, examine major mayoral races, and scrutinize the role of media in polarization—a blend of serious analysis and trademark banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. High-Stakes U.S.-Iran Showdown

State of Negotiations & Ceasefire

• The group examines President Trump’s rejection of Iran’s counterproposal in ongoing nuclear and ceasefire talks.
• Trump statement: “Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, and they give us a stupid. It's a stupid proposal and nobody would take it. Obama would have taken it. Biden would have taken it. What they took was far worse.” (Tom Sellew as Trump, 01:03)
• The ceasefire remains tenuous and, as described by Trump, “on life support” (Tom Sellew, 01:33).

Clashing Narratives on U.S. Strength

• Emily criticizes Democrats for allegedly undermining U.S. efforts for partisan gain (01:53).
• Kellyanne rebuts Democratic claims of Iran’s strengthened position, citing Iranian military/economic losses:
  • “Ask the IRGC how they're feeling. Three short months ago, they had a navy... now they are militarily degraded, economically decimated.” (Kellyanne Conway Kennedy, 02:38)
• Cory Booker and Jack Reed are singled out for political grandstanding. Kellyanne calls Booker “so jealous of Donald Trump. That makes him zealous about a war that the US is winning.” (Kellyanne, 04:24)
• Emily jokes: “The same number of hairs on his head. Kennedy.” (05:29)

Alliances and Long-Term Strategy

• Charlie explains differing U.S. and Israeli objectives and stresses the value of a global coalition:
  • “If peace and prosperity are the goal, then that is the American foreign policy that everyone should stand behind.” (Charlie Hurt, 06:02)
• The Abraham Accords are invoked as foundational to current policy moves.
• Panelists reject claims Trump acts at Israel’s behest; Tom Sellew says, “if anybody knows anything about Donald Trump, you know he's not going to be working at the behest of anybody other than...the United States of America.” (08:17)

Global Perspective

• Ryan observes global news, referencing a multinational coalition led by France, UK, and Gulf states as evidence of broad support:
  • “Add that to Saudi Arabia, UAE...these are all helping out the US effort in the region.” (Ryan Reynolds, 09:57)

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2. Democratic Party & Rise of Progressive Voices

AOC’s Ambitions and Populism

• Discussion pivots to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s (AOC) declared ambitions:
  • Memorable quote: “My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, but single payer healthcare is forever, a living wage is forever, workers rights are forever, women's rights, all of that.” (AOC clip, cited by Charlie Hurt, 13:16)
• Hosts sarcastically dissect her rhetoric; Kellyanne says, “AO sees Kooky as getting spooky,” (15:10) and challenges her lack of legislative accomplishments.
• Billionaire-bashing by AOC and Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner is criticized:
  • “Republicans should learn how to say, you know what, I don't care about billionaires, I don't care about them. Go ahead, take their money...You're not going to solve your budget shortfall picking the pockets of billionaires.” (Ryan Reynolds, 15:16)

Moderates vs. Progressives

• Charlie invokes the metaphor of “moderates and lunatics” from the Iran debate to describe Democratic infighting:
  • “The loudest people and the only ones with ideas, unfortunately they're God awful ideas, are the lunatics, they are the progressives.” (16:56)
• AOC and Platner are painted as symbols of performative, ineffective activism.
• Emily critiques the “theatrics” of progressive leaders:
  • “When what she confuses with impact or activism is to me, just theatrics.” (Emily Campagno, 21:23)

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3. Los Angeles Mayoral Race: Spencer Pratt’s Surprising Surge

Homelessness and Urban Policy

• Panel reviews a negative union ad targeting Spencer Pratt, which ironically boosts his “common sense” platform.
• Key quotes from the ad (Tom Sellew, 24:06): “No more nakedness. No more drug use. No more robbing. No more burning dogs in the street. No more dog abuse... Clocks ticking.”
• Charlie celebrates Pratt’s no-nonsense messaging:
  • “It has been such a magnet for homeless people...and Karen Bash is like, yeah, well, we got. We're down 17%. That's a big deal.” (25:24–26:25)
• Emily underlines policy failures versus spending:
  • “They spend the most on it, but yet they have the biggest population in the entire country.” (27:07)

Political Parallels & Strategy

• Tom compares Pratt’s outsider status to Trump’s, saying, “Only a true outsider can call out the incompetence. And only a true outsider can say what Spencer Pratt is saying, which is basically believe your own eyes, not what they say, but what you see.” (30:05)
• Kellyanne frames the race as a litmus test for establishment politics.

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4. The Media & the Radicalization of America

Joe Rogan’s Theory on Trump Assassination Attempts

• Rogan attributes recent assassination plots to the media’s obsession and the spread of “Trump derangement narrative”:
  • “People hate him so much. And the narrative in the media, this Trump derangement narrative...is so strong and people are so programmed by it.” (Tom Sellew as Rogan, 32:35)
• Emily blames social media monetization:
  • “The monetization of certain social media platforms has played a huge part in it because people will say whatever they can to get clicks.” (Emily Campagno, 33:15)
• Ryan compares current mass disbelief/conspiracy acceptance to the Alex Jones/Sandy Hook verdict:
  • “Didn't we fine Alex Jones half a billion dollars for saying that a shooting was staged and they took his company away...Now it's mainstream talking points.” (Ryan Reynolds, 35:20)

Distrust & Desensitization

• Tom points to widespread distrust in media:
  • “It's also the same percentage of people who don't believe what they read in the media. They don't trust anything that is reported to them.” (Tom Sellew, 34:41)
• Kellyanne says, “TDS is not a difference of opinion anymore. I think it actually has melted people's brains. It has hardened their hearts.” (Kellyanne Conway Kennedy, 36:09)

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5. Notable Moments and Lighter Segments

Worry Warts Study

• The team discusses a study on stress and health.
• Charlie jokes: “If that's the case, I'm going to live forever.” (38:27)

Final Fun Section (“One More Thing”)

• Personal appearances, a deer in a nursing home, a sneaky pooch, and lighthearted banter wrap up the show.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon … I would say it's one of the weakest right now. It's on life support.”
  – Tom Sellew as Trump, (01:03, 01:33)
• “I think most people know ... the US is in a very advantageous position.”
  – Ryan Reynolds, 09:57
• “She confuses impact with activism … just theatrics.”
  – Emily Campagno, 21:23
• “Only a true outsider can say what Spencer Pratt is saying, which is basically believe your own eyes, not what they say, but what you see.”
  – Kellyanne Conway Kennedy, 30:05
• “The narrative in the media, this Trump derangement narrative...is so strong and people are so programmed by it.”
  – Tom Sellew as Joe Rogan, 32:35
• “I think it actually has melted people's brains. It has hardened their hearts.”
  – Kellyanne Conway Kennedy, 36:09
• “If that's the case, I'm going to live forever.”
  – Charlie Hurt, 38:27

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Segment Timestamps

• U.S.-Iran conflict, Trump’s stance: 00:35–11:27
• AOC/Progressive Dems, billionaire talk: 12:52–23:35
• L.A. Mayor Race, Spencer Pratt: 24:06–31:46
• Trump assassination attempts, media role: 32:20–37:14
• Worry warts and health, fun closing: 37:30–end

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Takeaways

• The show heavily emphasizes skepticism toward Democratic leadership, lauding Trump’s posture on Iran.
• Progressive Democrats like AOC are portrayed as performative and damaging to their party.
• The L.A. mayoral race is cast as a battleground for common sense vs. failed progressive urban policy.
• Media influence and digital echo chambers are spotlighted as drivers of division and radicalization.
• The episode maintains a lively, conversational tone, punctuating serious debate with humor and sarcasm.

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Transcript

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[Tom Sellew]

Hello everyone.

[Emily Campagno]

I'm Emily Campagno along with Kellyanne Conway Kennedy, Charlie Hurt and Tom Sellew. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the fight. The high stakes showdown with Iran could be reaching a breaking point. President Trump eviscerating the terror regime's lackluster counter proposal to the latest U.S. peace proposal. Here's what 47 said earlier.

[Tom Sellew]

A lot of people said, well, does he have a plan? Yeah, of course. I do have the best plan ever. Very simple plan. I don't know why you don't say it like it is. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and they give us a stupid. It's a stupid proposal and nobody would take it. Although Obama would have taken it. Biden would have taken it. What they took was far worse. You have the moderates and you have the lunatics and I think the moderates are more respected. The lunatics want to fight till the end.

[Ryan Reynolds]

For the time being, the ceasefire remains in place.

[Tom Sellew]

It's unbelievably weak, I would say. I would call it the weakest right now. After reading a piece of garbage they sent us. I didn't even finish reading it. They said, I'm not going to waste my time reading it. I would say it's one of the weakest right now. It's on life support.

[Emily Campagno]

And leave it to the Dems to always root for America's failure in the conflict with Iran, just as a way to try to stick it to President Trump.

[Tom Sellew]

This conflict has been a massive disaster and Donald Trump himself is an embarrassment on the world stage.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What is the president willing to give up? What are the Iranians willing to accept? And they're now in a better position than they were. Ironically, several months ago it negotiated also points out why it was so stupid to start this war in the first place. It's actually put Iran in a stronger

[Tom Sellew]

position, at least for now.

[Emily Campagno]

Kellyanne, can you please help make sense of this? And why the Democrats, or how the Democrats can say that Iran's in a stronger position now?

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Well, they're clearly not. Ask the IRGC how they're feeling. Three short months ago, they had a navy. They had endless stockpiles of missiles. They had copious amounts of drones. Now they are militarily degraded, economically decimated. Several dozen of its leaders are as dead as the 42,000 peaceful protesters that they killed. And the list goes on. And the president holds all the cards. The US Is in a very strong position here, Emily, because this is what leadership looked like. We have a commander in chief who. Who's not going to do what other presidents did, coddle, capitulate, and cave to the state sponsor of terror, the largest in the world. The calls for death to America and death to Israel were so loud that there is a guy that wouldn't ignore it anymore. He won't look the other way at this inhumane state sponsor of terrorism who. Who has killed more Americans than pretty much any other country. Wake up, everybody, and look. Jack Reed saying that is just false. You're allowed to say what you want on tv. He's not under oath. In fact, when he's interviewing witnesses on his committees in the United States Senate, the witnesses are under oath. Jack Reed and Cory Booker never are. So they have no incentive to ever tell the truth. How in the world, by any measure, is Iran in a better place now? Just two weeks ago or last week, they tried to shoot at two of our destroyers and couldn't even come close. They were like a kid at a carnival game with the water pistol. So to say Iran's in a better position, I. Everyone was in a much better position when Barack Obama was giving them billions of dollars, pallets of cash. They're in a much better position when John Kerry went over there to negotiate the jcpoa, they were in a much better position when Israel was on its heels. They were in a much better position when the Gulf states weren't helping us out. And so, by any measure, we are winning. But war takes time. And I would remind my people, I would remind my friends who have objections to this war. Peace through strength also necessitates the strength part as well. Last point, because Cory Booker, New Jersey. What do we have, 10 million people now? My home state, I'm a Jersey girl forever. We can't do better than this guy. He's so jealous of Donald Trump. That makes him zealous about a war that the US Is winning. He represents the United States of America. He ought to behave like that when he's on a Sunday show. Look at him. He ran for president in 2020.

[Emily Campagno]

Cue the laughter.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

He ran for president. And you know how many electoral votes he got? Zero. The same number as Kamala Harris. The same number as all these people who are jealous of Donald Trump because he's the president and Cory Booker is not. What is his body of work? What is he doing that he's giving China and North Korea aid and comfort to insult our commander in chief and our president when he's on his way to China to show who the real superpower is? 0.

[Emily Campagno]

The same number of hairs on his head. Kennedy.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yes.

[Emily Campagno]

Talk to us about two.

[Charlie Hurt]

That and he also was a lackluster tight end at Stanford, I'm told.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Oh, I know. That explains a lot, right?

[Emily Campagno]

Yes, it does talk to us about the future for us and for Iran, like what we could expect. Because it seems like the Democrats are expecting either instantaneous results and instant gratification with zero forgiveness for movement, two steps forward, one step back. And also it seems like they're unprepared for a stronger alliance with the Gulf states, with the United States, which is what is happening.

[Charlie Hurt]

It's interesting. You're absolutely right about that. And I think that the United States and Israel are looking at this in two very different ways. Israel is more hawkish here. They want to extract the uranium from the ground with or without a deal. And they've been telegraphing that pretty clearly. And I think if you look at what the United States is doing, they have a more global strategy. And I don't mean that in terms of the planet. I mean in terms of pulling out and wanting to make sure that there is peace going forward. And, you know, this is sort of a multilayered part of the president's foreign policy. And I'm one of those people. I don't like war. I don't like conflict. I think the quagmire that you could get yourself into very quickly oftentimes isn't worth it. But I will give the President enough grace to say if this is something where it started with the Abraham Accords that he is only going to add on to, and it is going to change the face of especially energy policy in the Middle east to make us all safer and to make countries like Iran that wants to cooperate with their neighbors, if it is going to help people who were displaced by the revolution in the late 70s, if they can go back to their homeland, then those are all net benefits. And it also, if peace and prosperity are the goal, then that is the American foreign policy that everyone should stand behind. And I think we have to be very careful of not demonizing everything the president does because it also comes off being very anti American. And you have to be able to, if there are wins, you have to be able to grant those if you ever want to build upon them. If Democrats regain Congress and at some

[Emily Campagno]

point the presidency, especially with our military servicemen and women fighting overseas and in harm's way. Charlie, I have a question. And it's on that tack because there's a fissure, frankly, between the Republican Party where many say that Israel has different objectives and therefore we should not have yoked ourselves to our ally. But to Kennedy's point, don't we have a shared interest in obliterating, to use Hillary Clinton's terminology about Iran, a sworn enemy, that the can was just being kicked down the road from prior administrations?

[Tom Sellew]

Well, I think one of the dumbest things that we have heard from some quarters on the right of Trump supporters or former Trump supporters is this idea that Trump is acting at the behest of Israel. It's absurd. As if America doesn't have any interest in the Middle east in terms of oil and things like that. It's absurd. Donald Trump, if anybody knows anything about Donald Trump, you know he's not going to be working at the behest of anybody other than, I think, the United States of America. But I think Kenny also makes a really, really great point. And you're against war, I'm against war. You know who else is against war? Donald Trump is against war. He doesn't want to do this. He recognized that this was a real problem and it needed to be addressed. So much so that he was willing to do it in the middle of an election year, which there's not a single politician in our lifetime who has ever had the guts to do something like that. And he did it because he actually believed in it. And one of the things that I think gets lost in all of this is like you say, if they're going to build on the Abraham Accords and actually solve a problem that has been a nightmare with for our country for decades, especially over the past 25 years where we have been embroiled in some unending wars. If it ends the incentive for future politicians to get involved in never ending wars in the Middle East, I give him all the grace period that he needs in order to accomplish that, because I don't. I trust this guy way more than I trust any of the buffoons that might follow him. And get us into another one of these stupid wars.

[Emily Campagno]

Yeah.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

How much are you?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, you know, it's interesting because we have this back and forth with Democrats and Republicans. Obviously, I'm not listening to any of these Democrats who are, you know, trumpeting this. You know, Iran is in a better position. It's just, it's nonsense. And I think most people know that. But I am tuning into various voices who are against the war. I'm like, sell me on this. Because to me it looks like the US is in a very advantageous position. So I want to hear from these people, maybe like minded people, maybe people on the right, but they haven't sold me. But you know who has? I have this app on my phone. I listen to radio stations all around the world. It's great. The world and in Europe, they have a rosier view of this war than you would expect. And the headline that jumps out, multinational coalition seeks to secure Hormuz. What are they talking about, the U.S. israel? No, it's France and the UK. They're in there now. Add that to Saudi Arabia, UAE. I just wrote these down. These are all helping out the US effort in the region. Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait. So if you look at the way the world is reacting to this instead of US politics, you see, it's a lot closer to what Donald Trump, his description of what's happening there and the, you know, this back and forth, it's to be expected. Right? But look what is, look what is going on. And you know, that's the way it's, that's the way it's proceeding.

[Emily Campagno]

Yeah, a multinational coalescence. And to underscore your point, this is why the Secretary of War said his biggest adversary are the Democrats on the Hill. All right, guys. Coming up next, apparently the White House isn't big enough for AOC's ego. Find out what she's got up her socialist sleeve.

[Charlie Hurt]

The year 1992. Jeannie Flynn has just graduated from Air Force pilot training at the top of her class. In theory, the sky was the limit. In reality, it wasn't that simple. She had one goal. To fly the F15, the finest jet in the American arsenal. But combat had never seen a woman in the cockpit. And tradition wasn't ready to make room. She faced questions about strength, about stamina, about whether a woman could take the shot when the mission called for it. She never flinched. She became the first American woman to complete fighter pilot training for the F15, logging over 300 combat hours supporting ground troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. She didn't ask to make History. She didn't want to make headlines. She just wanted to serve at full throttle. Flynn didn't just reach the sky, she shattered the ceiling.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Tom Sellew]

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[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Need more proof that radicals rule the Democratic Party? Plenty of Liberals already see AOC as a top 2028 contender. But apparently the White House isn't big enough for her ambitions. Watch.

[Charlie Hurt]

They assume that my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, but single payer healthcare is forever, a living wage is forever, workers rights are forever, women's rights, all of that.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

And if that wasn't stupid enough, AOC served up this eyebrow raising take on the American Revolution.

[Charlie Hurt]

You look at Thomas Jefferson writing to Madison in Revolt of British Aristocracy. The American Revolution was against the billionaires of their time. It's actually the most American thing in the world for us to be fighting for the working class. And it's actually patently un American to

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

try to aspire to transform our country

[Charlie Hurt]

into a place of kings.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

And her fellow comrade main Senate candidate Graham Platner, you know, the guy who got a Nazi tattoo and Wore it for 20 years, well, he is also getting in on the billionaire bashing.

[Tom Sellew]

And what, what's amazing to me is we're doing that. Meanwhile, the total amount of uncollected taxes from corporations in this country is in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Wow. Where to start? I mean, Tom, you're the comedian at the table. She's making us laugh out loud. Rewriting the American Revolution. Look, AO sees Kooky as getting spooky, but I want to ask what she's actually accomplished. She's going for her fifth term in Congress. She's been in Congress for over 2,500 days, probably. What has she done for the working people? What has she done for, quote, women's rights? She talks a lot. She delivers very little.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, nothing. She's done nothing. But this billionaire talk, it still is going to, it's going to return dividends for Democrats. And this guy in Maine, I mean, he's a total phony, but he's got the voice and he's down by the water and he's shucking oysters. You know, he's dangerous, you know, and when they talk about the billionaires, it does resonate with some people. But you know, billionaires are not Republican. I looked up the numbers. It's 30 something 38, 39% of billionaires are Republican. There's a lot of left wing billionaires as well, okay? But Republicans need to learn how to talk about this stuff because they throw out this billionaires thing and it's meaningless because Graham Platner is not going to be able to solve this. You know, when he's talking about what's he going to go get the money? Is he going to get his own doge and find this money, you know, go get the billionaires? He's not. He's going to go to Washington. He's going to hold hands with Democrats to further ruin our country. That's the message they need to get out there. This billionaires thing is ridiculous. And it's not because billionaires are great. Republicans should learn how to say, you know what, I don't care about billionaires, I don't care about them. Go ahead, take their money. I don't care. It's not going to work. You're not going to get your money. You're not going to, you know, solve your budget shortfall picking the pockets of billionaires. It doesn't work.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

It's true. And Tom's saying, Kennedy, that, you know, less than 40% of billionaires identify as Republican because they can afford to be liberal, but the rest of us can't. But what happened to the Democratic Party? Let's get back to that. These really are the faces of the Democratic Party. Hasan piker and Abdul El Sayed, who's winning in Michigan in the U.S. senate race. All this crazy talk. What happened to the fun liberals like your aunt?

[Charlie Hurt]

Well, it's, yeah, Aunt Jane. I mean she was a legend on Haight Ashbury. And you know, she was Mary, she was passing jugs of wine and joints back in the 60s and she would have gotten along with everybody but these people. It's funny because earlier today the President was talking about the big divide with the people he's negotiating with in Iran. And you've got the moderates and the lunatics. It's the same thing in the Democrat Party. You've got the moderates. And I think most Democrats would consider themselves to be pretty rational, pretty moderate. But the loudest people and the only ones with ideas, unfortunately they're God awful ideas, are the lunatics, they are the progressives. And you know, you've got the General the Furious who's out there and she frankly sounds like a fascist. You know, she's talking about the presidency isn't enough. You know, it's like four years isn't Enough. I want all of it. You know, that sounds like a completely unhinged authoritarian person who wants to inflate the size of the state and wants to increase taxation, which isn't going to be on billionaires. That is going to be on the middle class. She is in Congress. Congress writes the laws for the tax code. So why has she not worked to rewrite the laws to get more from billionaires? You know, like Bernie Sanders once. It's because she isn't good at her job. What she has lorded over is disinviting Amazon from creating jobs and wealth and prosperity and a future for New Yorkers when she got them to shutter their idea and the hookers on Arthur Avenue, which are in her congressional district, that's what she has accomplished. And now she's boring us to tears with her revisionist remedial history. You know, go back and look at the Stamp Acts. What were the colonists? What were they revolting against? Taxation. And she and Graham Platner, they are looking for more ways to tax you and not just tax the billionaires because those plans never involve that class warfare is never effective. But she doesn't care because she doesn't really have any other plan than to make herself as powerful as possible and her cronies as rich as possible. Like Tim Wall's cronies and Gavin Newsom's cronies and all the other people who profit off of a bloated state. When your tax money is stolen from

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

you, I like to stick up for Arthur Avenue. When I think of it, I think of Brigitte and Cannolis, not hookers. Turning to our Virginia man.

[Charlie Hurt]

Get it all. It's one stop shopping now, Kelly.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Virginia man, Charlie Hurt. She's like, she's rewriting. She's rewriting. Revisiting the American Revolution. Can you give us a little history lesson or her? Because when she went to the Munich Security Conference, she made a fool of herself on the world stage. She didn't know where Venezuela is. She asked her basic questions that any of us could answer and she couldn't. And now she's telling us about the American Revolution.

[Tom Sellew]

Yeah, and she's on the wrong side of the American Revolution because as Kennedy pointed out, you know, they rose up against a rapacious authoritarian government. That was the whole point. And she is fighting in favor of the rapacious, rapacious, authoritarian government. And all of the taxes that they raise goes to that. To that government. Look no further than Obamacare. How is that working out for people? Not very well. I don't think that there are a radical and normal wing when it comes to politicians anymore. In Virginia, you have somebody like Abigail Spanberger, who ran as a moderate, as a security, a pro security moderate. She came into office with a surplus. The first thing she did was raise taxes on Virginians who had already been overtaxed. She took away people's guns and now they went after this wild gambit of trying to take away rig the next election, gerrymandered the maps, even though voters had explicitly said they didn't want to do that. And now that it didn't go their way, they're talking about abolishing the third branch of government. That's who Democrats are today. That's the moderate wing of the Democrat Party today. And they're all about. All they care about is obviously their own power and raising taxes on people who work for a living so that they can extend their power for more deeply into our lives.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Emily AOC says that her ambition is way bigger than the White House, but her accomplishments are way smaller than all of that.

[Emily Campagno]

Indeed they are. That's why I think, you know, when what she confuses with impact or activism is to me, just theatrics. It's her dancing on the float here in New York City for mom Donnie. She's confusing actual achievements in Congress, which is legislating or funding the government, with simply her theatrics and her dramatics that she's currying favor with online. Like, it's so obvious to me that these people are stuck in some type of senior class president race, some senior drama production. And while we are actually the ones that are recipients of this, when you talk about taxes, first of all, Platner, what a joke. He talked about that his insight into the IRS was because of his college roommate that turned out to be an IRS agent, which, by the way, I can't think of a worse duo of roommates in my life. And that from him he learned how much Elon Musk calculated he will, upon the time of his death, hopefully years and years in the future, will have paid trillions in taxes. He keeps talking Platner about the middle class without defining it. And I personally have seen this government in prior administrations and this IRS that our tax dollars fund, spend $100,000 of our money to claw back 30,000. The reality is that it's a massive disproportionate investment of the IRS to gain income from all of us, which is what we earn. The demonization that AOC is going about to and creating sort of this revolution against institution what have they already built? A stronger, more chaotic, more insidious institution, I argue, which is academia, which is the mainstream media on the left, which is their coalescence of protection against rapists and sexual assaulters and stock market cronies and all the things that they pretend to be against, but really they protect because it's simply blue in their seat. So I would love to have a report card that we could actually grade of her, but you have to have something to show for it before you can even issue a grade. So to me, they all get F's. And you're right. I think Platner is dangerous only because he has subscribed to her notion that just being bombastic or being passionate in front of a phone is somehow equatable to being a public servant and getting something done.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

And you just told us why John Fetterman claims the Democrats are bleeding men as voters. Coming up, angry liberals are trying to take down Spencer Pratt after that amazing debate performance.

[Tom Sellew]

Two sweethearts

[Ryan Reynolds]

and the summer wind. Like painted kites.

[Tom Sellew]

Spencer Pratt flipping the Los Angeles mayor's race upside down after a knockout performance in a debate against current Mayor Karen Bass and woke Councilwoman Nithya Rahman. And liberals are doing everything they can to derail his candidacy. Check out this union ad that was supposed to make him look bad, but did the exact opposite. Watch. Pratt opposes using taxpayer money to build brand new houses for our unhoused neighbors, saying it's time for the homeless to get help or get out. Pratt thinks LA needs thousands more police officers rather than more social workers. There's good reason why Pratt is surging in the race. It's because he's laser focused on the cities. Homeless crisis plan is first three weeks signs up across the city. No more nakedness. No more drug use. No more robbing. No worse. No more burning dogs in the street. No more dog abuse. We're going to warn everybody. Hey, got three more weeks of this. Like clock's ticking. There's a new mayor in town. They may start leaving and then when the three weeks? Or maybe we'll even do two weeks. Maybe people want it faster. And then once we start enforcing laws, boom. Streets will be back. So, Kennedy, I know that you're pro naked nakedness, but this might be a pretty good platform.

[Charlie Hurt]

Well, I guess I'm not gonna be dancing around in my birthday suit in skid row anymore. We're gonna have to find somewhere else to go jiggle for nickels. That's okay. I vote in la. I'm gonna vote for Spencer Pratt and You know, finally there is someone who is pushing back against this absolute insanity. And, you know, I imagine. And Kellyanne can speak to this. There probably have to be two dozen GOP congressmen and local lawmakers signing up with that union group saying, please make ads for us. Tell us how horrible we are, because we want our cities and our communities to be livable. You know, we want to make sure, because it has been such a magnet for homeless people, they spend more per unhoused person than any other city in the country with what to show for it. You know, Los Angeles has the highest number of street homeless in the country by far. It's something like 70%. It never should have been that high. And Karen Bash is like, yeah, well, we got.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

We're down 17%. That's a big deal.

[Charlie Hurt]

It's like, it's not a big deal. Never should have been 70%. Shame on you, because what do those communities do to the rest of the city? Well, there's gang warfare in skid row. I was on Will Kane a couple of weeks ago when we were showing the animal abuse. And, you know, it's like story after story. And finally there is a rational person standing up saying, maybe it's not climate change that blew the Pacific Palisades to the ground. Burned it to the ground.

[Tom Sellew]

Rather, Emily, you've got this common sense message. And then from Karen Bass, you have this stay the course message, which I actually cannot believe she actually use those words in an ad.

[Charlie Hurt]

I know.

[Emily Campagno]

I love this ad so much, and I wish it had got. I kept waiting for there to be something, you know, sort of, like, really negative. And then I was like, at the end, I'm like, this is amazing indeed, sir. You know, I wanted it to go on, like. And he doesn't believe we should put men in women's sports, and he doesn't believe that we should, you know, give everyone a free needle. And it was astounding to me how they use the word Republican as a pejorative and then think that that's going to carry the messaging when you're absolutely right. And the thing about the homeless population, to me, that I see there in California is. But it sort of represents the most intense and exponentially increased statistic of anything horrible. The highest sexual assaults category and assaults and disease and so much more. And so I'm not quite sure why everyone in that population has been discarded up until now. You know, they spend the most on it, but yet they have the biggest population in the entire country. And Gavin Newsom brags that it's the fourth largest economy. But the reality is it's the biggest debt, it's the biggest nothing to show for the economy. And the impact of one person that is unhoused has such a radiating effect on the economy. And I'm not, this is not a judgment against them obviously, but it's about the utter failure of the structure to even do something about it under their watch. So, yeah, I'm loving Spencer Pratt's ads. I hope they make more and I'm so grateful that you are one more vote that will be for him.

[Tom Sellew]

So, Tom, you know, there are. Spencer sidestepped the idea that this is a MAGA campaign and said he compared himself to more to the Obama. The rise of Obama coming to in terms of experience. But you know, you can't. It's hard not to draw comparisons talking about a common sense message delivered by a former reality star, TV star. The comparisons are there.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. And he's right to do that because he doesn't even need. You know, I called Platner dangerous in a similar way. He's dangerous in Los Angeles, but it's in a different way. Platner's needed by the Democrat Party because they need another vote so they can impeach Trump national issue. That's why they want him and that's why they're gonna give him money. He has nothing to do with national Republicans. He only. His only responsibility is saving that once great city. And yes, he should take out ads. He shouldn't do a parody of this ad, which I thought this ad was a parody. When they sent it to us this morning, I thought, okay, they're gonna send a thing back saying sorry that we were fooled. That was the, you know, the B or whatever. It's not a parody. I mean, but it is. He should take the ad out, use the same ad. Do you see these high end condos, Spencer? Brett does not want to give these to the homeless. No, I don't. So he should run the exact ad and then at the end say I'm Spencer Pratt and I approved of this message.

[Tom Sellew]

The ads themselves have become the best parody.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Tom Sellew]

Kellyanne, bring this all down to planet Earth for us. So she is the only poll that we have on this. He's 10 points behind her. But she's at 25, she's the incumbent and she's getting beaten by don't know.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

That's the key. I always tell people in blue or Aries, don't pay attention to the margin. Pay attention to where the incumbent is. And if he or she is anywhere in this disastrous number. Karen Bass now is ditching debates. Remember, this is the same mayor who was in Ghana. She was in Africa, not in LA when they had the wildfires. And her water czar was long on czar and short on water. They didn't have enough water. And yes, I speak like a Philadelphia water. And here's the thing about Spencer Pratt. I want to bring it back to him. You're absolutely right that he. I see a lot of analogies to the rise of Trump because. Because only an outsider, a true outsider can call out the corruption. Only a true outsider can call out the incompetence. And only a true outsider can say what Spencer Pratt is saying, which is basically believe your own eyes, not what they say, but what you see. And he's taking a video, he's taking his iPhone and basically running a campaign that way, saying this. I'm giving you the visual examples of the rot that is our beautiful city. He wants to do common sense things as a rational person. And the reason that he's catching on, I believe, is because he sounds like a lot of the folks he would want to represent. And he's got a twist. He's also reminding you that the problems don't exist because nobody's tried to solve them. They've tried to solve them with money. They haven't tried to solve them methodically or compassionately or structurally or even hard headedly. They've just tried to throw money at them. And sometimes people have to hit. See the one we didn't talk about, the other woman, her name is Rahan.

[Tom Sellew]

Yeah.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

No more default ramen. Ramen. Well, Rahman now is noodling over her position on defund the police. I saw a Fox News report today that she said she's going to back away from defund the police. So he's making a difference even on that debate stage.

[Tom Sellew]

If you want to go after the establishment, you have to go. The only way you do it is with people like Donald Trump or Spencer Pratt. All right, coming up next, Joe Rogan knows exactly what's fueling the left's parade of wannabe Trump assassins.

[Charlie Hurt]

Go on now and say goodbye to our town.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

To our town.

[Charlie Hurt]

Well, hello. Welcome back. The third wannabe Trump assassin, Cole Allen, pleading not guilty to last month's shooting at the White House Correspondents association dinner. Joe Rogan has a theory on what is radicalizing average Americans into wanting the president dead. Watch.

[Tom Sellew]

There's a lot of people running around out there saying that that first Trump assassination was a setup and that it was a hoax and that Trump did it to try to get people to be more sympathetic to him. People hate him so much. And the narrative in the media, this Trump derangement narrative that you see in the media is so strong and people are so programmed by it. You got that Russia collusion stuff shoved down your throat by mainstream media for years, and you believe all of it 100%. And so you really believed that he's a terrible person, Russian agent, all these different. So you want someone to kill him.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah, it really has been a desensitization. Emily, is Joe Rogan right about the media playing such a big part in this?

[Emily Campagno]

Absolutely. And I think, frankly, the monetization of certain social media platforms has played a huge part in it because people will say whatever they can to get clicks because it's a direct investment, it's direct income. I think there's the attention, quality. And we've talked about the real impact of dopamine. And, you know, think about what dopamine is, by the way. That that's a surge of. Of, like, accomplishment to feeling right. That's not necessarily joy. And so people are getting that surge when they get the clicks and the likes and the views, but they're also being paid for it. And we've seen now people that might have used to in the past, we refer to them as thought leaders that now are just peddling really damaging hoaxes that are so outlandish that they are becoming incredibly damaging. We also know that there's a real investment by our enemies overseas into the world of bots, into social agitation. And we know that China and Russia align weapons that impact your brain, like lasers and sonars. They qualify that in the same class as social media because of what it does to impair your judgment. And this is what we are putting in front of our children. Numbing youth, numbing anyone. They're numb now to violence. They're numb to rhetoric, and they're numb to calling our president the Fuhrer a fascist. And Hitler. And I include, by the way, video games and all of that, too.

[Charlie Hurt]

All right, so, you know, here you have the media. You also have people who are susceptible to the conspiracy theories, and a third of Democrats say they believe that the assassination attempts were staged. What do you make of that?

[Tom Sellew]

Well, I think also it's not only do they. Not only is it a reflection of people who have gone down crazy wormholes that believe this, it's also the same percentage of people who don't believe what they read in the media. They don't trust anything that is reported to them. And when you have a room full of reporters at the, at the Congressional White House Correspondents dinner, you have 3,000 people in there and everybody's like, no, this actually, actually happened. And you have 20, 30% of Democrats saying, no, I believe it was staged. I think it reveals a level of contempt for those people in that room.

[Charlie Hurt]

How do you unring that bell?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't know if you can. I mean, the level to which didn't we fine Alex Jones half a billion dollars for saying that a shooting was staged and they took his company away. And everyone says, I can't believe that there's an individual out there on planet Earth who would do that. Now it's mainstream talking points. And after Charlie was murdered, the reaction to that, when people were making fun of it, immediately, it's like, it's a lack of humanity. It's absolutely weir of these people. You know, when you see those numbers, you think, can they actually believe that? Do they really believe it? Or do they look on social media and they see people that they follow and they think, oh, one third of people said it was staged. Well, you know, I guess that's an acceptable answer. I'll say that. I'll join in on that. You know, it becomes acceptable whether they believe it or not.

[Charlie Hurt]

Are you surprised by the numbers?

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

No. We have too many people in this country who live almost exclusively online. They believe everything they see there. They believe those are their friends. They believe those are their allies. And they don't know better. But you know who should know better? A lot of these millionaire anchors, a lot of these reporters, a lot of these pundits who say stuff and then everybody around them is like a bobblehead doll agreeing with it and not challenging. Where are you getting that? How is that okay, why are you elevating this? And I think Rogan serves another useful purpose here at Kennedy, which is he's in charge of hours and hours of content a week. Excuse me, a day, and many hours per week. So he knows how careful you have to be to protect the First Amendment freedom of expression, but also not allow your guest or yourself to say things that just aren't true and that could lead to dangerous activities. I think TDS is not a difference of opinion anymore. I think it actually has melted people's brains. It has hardened their hearts. They are so obsessed with one man and stopping him, they can't even hear what the pro America argument may be or frankly, what the facts are.

[Charlie Hurt]

The fastest is up next. Stay with Us.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Get this worry warts might live longer. A new study found a certain type of worrier, people who stress a lot but don't spiral emotionally had a 35% lower risk of dying over 15 years. Kellyanne, worrying is good.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

I love that. But I may die today. As I've gotten older, I worry less about more things and I worry more about very few things, like the people I love getting sick and dying. But I just found it's not worth the stress. You can't even remember five months later what it has had you up all night or who had you up all night, what you were worried about. So I think I like it. I think it's going to give a lot of people some cause for pause in a positive way. But for me, I'm worried that I don't worry enough.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, Kennedy, there's qualifying aspects to this study. It's not people who are stressed out all the time. It's just people who are generally, they live a safer life.

[Charlie Hurt]

No, it's not people who are moody and people who are emotionally volatile. Those people actually live shorter lives. It's the people like me who worry in the middle of the night and wake up at three in the morning and, you know, carve out a very important part of the day for 90 minutes to worry about things we absolutely cannot change or effect in the middle of the night. But it doesn't stop us. And if that's the case, I'm going to live forever.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Tom Sellew]

I think it's just a matter of raising your tolerance for worry because you grow up worrying about everything and then you get older and then you know how to deal with the worry and then it's okay.

[Emily Campagno]

So the study separated worry from instability. And these types of warriors are the ones that adopted healthy habits like not smoking and exercising. So it's a healthy kind of slight worry. It's not the anxiousness or the emotional volatility that everyone hates that gives you a heart attack. So fear not everyone. You're just fine.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, so that's it. So it wasn't really worry wars don't live longer.

[Emily Campagno]

Exactly. You gotta read the fine print.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Prove this study. One more thing is up next.

[Tom Sellew]

Well, I can't wait till I move to the city.

[Emily Campagno]

One more thing, Tom.

[Tom Sellew]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Live dates. Laughs. Fun. Nevada, Texas, St. Louis. Look at those dates. Yeah. TomShalu.com for tickets. Go.

[Emily Campagno]

Awesome. This adorable deer got into a nursing home. Hilarious.

[Charlie Hurt]

No one was hurt.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Pop it up.

[Emily Campagno]

Great.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Next.

[Emily Campagno]

Kennedy.

[Charlie Hurt]

All right, here we go. Well, I will. I will be in Salt Lake city this weekend. Kennedynation.com for tickets. And look at the Hungarian health minister dancing.

[Emily Campagno]

Amazing.

[Charlie Hurt]

Pants off.

[Emily Campagno]

Dance off and we'll see you in Salt Lake City.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Kelly M. I love it. A sneaky pooch in Charlotte, North Carolina was caught on camera helping himself to food from the refrigerator. Marley hall said she checked her camera while at work and discovered her 8 year old golden retriever, Chase had figured out how to open the fridge. She said she knew food had been disappearing but had no idea how clever Chase was getting to it. Adorable.

[Tom Sellew]

And just wrap it up with this. We have a motorcycle rider is in the hospital following a collision with another female who left his bike hanging from a traffic light. Good news is everybody will be okay.

[Kellyanne Conway Kennedy]

Totally.

[Emily Campagno]

And they were Canadian.

[Charlie Hurt]

Everyone.

[Emily Campagno]

Thank you. That's it for us. Have a great night.

[Tom Sellew]

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