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Megan Alexander
Five years ago, the US Brought leaders.
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Jessica Tarlov
From Israel, Morocco, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain together to sign the Abraham Accords. I'm Megan Alexander and this is Middle East Tomorrow, go to partners.foxnews.com met.
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Dana Perino
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Emily Compagno, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. And breaking news just moments ago, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, we've talked about him and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry announcing that Minnesota will be suing Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and other DHS officials. And the goal is to block the surge of immigration enforcement in the state.
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Megan Alexander
Watch here.
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Jesse Waters
This is in essence a federal invasion of the Twin Cities and Minnesota, and it must stop. DHS agents have sown chaos and terror across the metropolitan area and in cities across the state of Minnesota. The Trump administration's decision to target Minnesota and Twin Cities is motivated by a desire to retaliate against Trump's perceived political opponents. If this were about fraud, then you'd see an invasion, perhaps of accountants. But that's not what you see. What you see is people being indiscriminately taken off our streets.
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Dana Perino
And those words come as new protests erupt in Minneapolis. Demonstrators can be seen harassing federal agents across the city. And new video shows the latest angle in the deadly ice shooting of Renee Goode. Her vehicle is stopped in the street. The horn is blaring, and good can be seen dancing in the driver's seat as officers surround the car. Federal officials call her actions a threat, but Minnesota's Democratic leaders say they were not and they are demanding accountability.
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Jesse Waters
She's like doing a three or a four or five point turn. Three point turn or a four point turn is a domestic terrorist and my wife is a criminal every single day.
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Emily Compagno
She's not mad.
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Dana Perino
She's sitting in her car peacefully waving cars to get by. He should know that you shouldn't be.
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Emily Compagno
Trying to get in front of a moving car.
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Megan Alexander
It's hard for me, looking at the.
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Jessica Tarlov
Evidence that I've seen, to imagine, imagine how he could feel bodily harm.
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Jesse Waters
No US Citizen should be afraid of their own government. And that is what ICE has created.
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Dana Perino
The actions of ice, they are unconstitutional.
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Megan Alexander
Unlawful, they are cruel, they are rogue, they are racist.
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Dana Perino
And over in Portland to a case involving two suspected train de Aragua gang associates, the Justice Department charging a Venezuelan man who got shot by Border Patrol. They allege that he rammed a Customs and Border Patrol vehicle multiple times during the targeted Arrest. Portland's police chief actually cried while revealing the suspect's gang affiliation.
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Jesse Waters
They do have some nexus to involvement with tda. We can confirm that. I want to speak for just a moment specifically to my Latino community. This information in no way is meant to disparage or to condone or support or agree with any of the actions that occurred yesterday.
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Dana Perino
So a lot to get to as we get going on a Monday. Jesse, I'm not even sure quite where to begin, but you have beautiful notes, so I'm going to let you start.
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Jesse Waters
So DHS gave Melusion a list of the bad hombres that they picked up in Minneapolis in the last two weeks. This is just nasty. We, we got a Laotian illegal who was convicted of sodomizing children. We got another Layin illegal convicted of rape and strangulation, a Somali illegal convicted of homicide, another Somali of manslaughter, a Mexican convicted of homicide. And I could read this list for the next hour. And so you send ICE in because Minnesota is not holding these guys. They're roaming around the city. So you have to go into these neighborhoods blind, cold, in frigid conditions, and you have to do dangerous, targeted raids at homes not knowing who's behind the door and how they're going to react. You see how some of them react. They drive their car into you over and over and over again. So you get this militant moment who's out of her mind and she puts her vehicle £2,000 and blocks a convoy of law enforcement, pinning the convoy down in a street. It's very dangerous when you're dealing with guys, they're at large convicted of homicide and raping children. And so she drives into him. We know the rest of the. But why are they doing this? Why is the Democratic Party sending women into the trenches to put their bodies in between foreign criminals and federal agents? Why would they do that? Why are they willing to sacrifice the lives of American women to protect foreign criminals? Is it because of the cheap labor? Is it because of the political power that the census gives? What's the reason? Is it because they're in on the welfare scam? Maybe. I bet when they get power, eventually they might. They just ram amnesty through. They created the conditions for this poor woman's death. They pour millions of people in here, they commit crimes, steal welfare, and then the Democrats circle the wagons around them so you can't get them out of here. That's what's going on. They're exploiting this woman's death for political power. And the Trump administration is not going to back down, Jessica.
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Dana Perino
It does. Obviously, this story really ratcheted up over the weekend and it didn't calm down. So the heckler's veto has changed into the interference with the federal law enforcement. And it's happening not just in Minnesota, but now it's growing in Minneapolis and across the state and then in other cities as well. You're starting to see this thing. What about Jesse's point about the Democrats sort of condoning or encouraging this behavior that could be leading to bad consequences?
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Jessica Tarlov
Well, I'm on just about every Democratic listserv and I have gotten no emails trying to recruit me to go and drive my Honda Pilot into the middle of the road and get in the face of ICE agents. I am not denying the fact that Renee Goode was affiliated with a group that was doing this, that there was a makeshift protest going on and that her car for those three or four minutes was obstructing the convoy of ICE agents. The issue is, is that there is no line between her actions and the fact that she is dead that anyone should be able to justify. And if you want to have a conversation about letting ICE do their job, especially when they are targeting those bad hombres, I'm here for it. I have said from the beginning that I think that blue cities should work with ICE to make sure that the bad guys get out. And then guess what? Maybe they won't go around door to door or show up at car washes and pick up someone who has three veteran sons that have served this country and is a mainstay of the community. I don't think you're going to find much disagreement there. But playing this game of misdirection to oh well, look, she was obstructing traffic or look how annoying her wife is. Or look at this snide thing that she says doesn't necessarily. And we needed an investigation, which I would love it if Secretary Noem would talk about that justify Officer Ross's actions and the fact that any of that. Yeah, but you want to change the subject to no, no.
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Emily Compagno
Nobody has said she said annoying things and oh, that's.
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Jessica Tarlov
Leading by saying she obstructed traffic ignores the most important part of the story, which is that there is a woman who is dead and Officer Ross the law actually. And guess what? I look forward to it and then I'll jump in and I will annoy everyone and we'll go back to normal. But Officer Ross's own filming of the incident shows exactly what happened in including the fact that he was already to the side of the car when he fired the first shot. And there was no justifiable reason. And there have been many law enforcement officers who have spoken out against us to at least fire those second two shots into the side of the car. And if you don't think that this guy had animus, if you don't think that this guy was angry and not just acting in self defense, when he walks about, walks away and says effing bitc.
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Emily Compagno
Oh, now you're talking about his language.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yes, it's because I can't stand to hear someone cursing. I'm saying that it makes clear that this was not just somebody that was like, oh my God, I could have been hurt. It's someone who was really pissed off and someone who was angry and took it out on this woman.
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Emily Compagno
So irrelevant.
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Jessica Tarlov
It is not. Yes, faster.
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Emily Compagno
I understand how desperate you are to make a point, but this makes no sense.
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Jessica Tarlov
You are desperate to interrupt me so that I can't make my.
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Emily Compagno
Because I'm right.
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Jessica Tarlov
I'm sorry. Guess what? We got another 52 minutes, so buckle up. Secretary Noem is sitting there with Jay Tapper and she's dodging left and right saying Donald Trump is just focused on making sure every law is being enforced. And Jay Tapper shows her footage of January six. And every police officer, by this standard should have been able to open fire on all of those insurrectionists because they were in more danger than Officer Ross was at that moment. What?
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Dana Perino
You're.
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Jessica Tarlov
Let me get a battering ram and run towards you. Jesse, please.
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Jesse Waters
I could use the help.
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Emily Compagno
I guess you proved your point with Ashley Babbitt.
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Dana Perino
So do you want to go now with your.
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Emily Compagno
Well, ok. The argument over the shooting is irrelevant if you deny the premise for them being there. This is part of this strategic ignorance where the other side doesn't understand things. Why is ICE here? Why is breaking the law wrong? Why do we need this kind of enforcement? What is wrong with an open border? Then you're forced to explain everything, which takes forever, even though you know that they know, because the same rules that govern civil order also operates under their lives. So, you know, you don't sneak into Disneyland, you pay. You don't cut in line at the movies, you wait in line. You don't interfere with the police. You know it's wrong. So until you don't admit, you don't admit that your private and public behavior align, you are living a lie. I want every liberal, because we have millions of liberals watching this show, to engage in a thought scenario, okay? You ask your sister this question, so, what are your plans today, Deborah? And she goes, well, I plan on filming myself harassing and impeding armed law enforcement. So how would you respond to your sister? You'd say, honey, do you think that's wise? What about the kids? Where are the kids? Oh, I drop them off at daycare. So what time are you doing this? At 11. Aren't you working? Oh, no, not at the moment. So you drop your kids off at daycare, you're not working, and you're going to stalk law enforcement? Don't you think this is time you should spend with your family or maybe do a job search or take some classes? Don't you think this is unhealthy behavior? Now, if you deny to a family member or to a best friend that this is how you would react, you are lying to yourself to protect your public virtue on this matter. This is how you get, in my opinion, the fake empathy liberal. To return to reality. If your sister is telling you that instead of caring for her children or her mental health that she prefers to stalk law enforcement, would you say, you go, girl? Of course not. You would say, you need an intervention. I need to stop you because I care about you. And that is the problem, Jessica. Nobody cares about. Good. You don't care about her. The left never cared about the activist group that trained her, didn't care about it. Who should be sued for wrongful death, who put her in this situation? She had no friends. She had no relatives to offer her advice when she was doing this stuff, when she was putting her in her life in jeopardy. Think about this pathetic movement and all the videos you've seen of these women. Where are their friends? Where are their parents? Where are the kids that would say, mommy, what are you doing? Why aren't you home? The left always says that politics is personal, but then they separate their political behavior from their personal reality. If. If you would tell your sister that this behavior is nuts, then you would not publicly express an entirely different opinion on this matter. No one wants their sister or their daughter or friend engaging in this any more than you would want your child to engage in the Tide Pod challenge or Subway Surf. So you need to ask this question before every action you think you're gonna endorse. If your private Persona and your public behavior is different, you are a lying hypocrite and you're hurting others, and you're not helpful to these lonely, sad people that we're leading on in this world. You're here.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yes.
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Dana Perino
Let me ask Emily. You could comment on any of that, but also within the time you have. Would you mind explaining what Minnesota is trying to do and will it be successful in trying to get ICE to not send more agents to Minnesota?
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Megan Alexander
Minnesota is trying to get an injunction right now to stop ICE from operating. They want this operation to cease right now and then in the grand scheme, to have it ruled invalid and unconstitutional writ large, so they're out permanently. They say they are being unjustly and unconstitutionally targeted because of what they have said. So they're arguing First Amendment. It will not fly. Look, I want to focus on what you two talked about, if I may, and weigh in. There's a line that gets crossed as circumstances develop. And that's why. And how an assault, which is, you know, an impending fear of bodily harm can become a battery, can become a homicide. That's why the totality of circumstances are at play here, per the Supreme Court. So as we look at and assess the entire situation there, it matters what led up, but it also matters what lines were crossed and when. And that's why it matters when a simple protester becomes a potential felon and potentially on the hook for violating the law by impeding a lawful federal action. It's when someone refuses to comply, when, per the Fourth Amendment seizure, when an officer says, get out of the car and stay there, they're not actually lawfully able to leave. And more. And so the standard that governs this is the federal use of force standard and the criminal code. It is not politics. It is not what Minnesota leadership says or what people voice and those on the left that are saying, well, this person, you know, this subject died for this. No, Jocelyn Nungaree already died for this. No, the people already died for this that are at the hands of these horrific criminals that these good, brave men and women of law enforcement are trying to get off the street. And so they talk about her being trained. Well, if she was trained, why didn't she know that she stopped being a civil protester many steps before she got to the use of her vehicle as an imminent use of force, deadly weapon. And in terms of the multiple shots, Supreme Court has upheld multiple times that multiple shots are warranted and that once deadly force is justified, then you can use as many shots as possible to eliminate the threat or if the officer determines such. And so your point when you said no one cares about her, you're right. Because the first question Press asked, and we all saw it on national television, was what was the name of the officer? And it was before they asked what was the name of the woman that was shot? All anyone ever cared about was vilifying law enforcement for doing their job and protecting those kids. And those people like Jocelyn and Gary who didn't get protection because of bad decisions, they don't actually care about the name of the woman behind the wheel.
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Emily Compagno
Radicals have canon fodder, too. Yeah.
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Jessica Tarlov
You can apply an equal standard, by the way, to the behavior of Officer Ross and Renee. Good. You could say let's make this about the issues, which is ICE enforcement and say it is possible to go block a car. Of course.
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Emily Compagno
Of course not. Use that behavior here.
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Jessica Tarlov
But would you tell Officer Ross to fire from the side of a vehicle and then again into the side?
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Dana Perino
Okay, I have the best. One more thing. So we have got to go. Up next, President Trump is mulling military action in Iran as the uprising rages for its third week.
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Jesse Waters
Yes.
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Jessica Tarlov
Hi, I'm Megan Alexander and this is Middle East Tomorrow.
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Megan Alexander
Five years ago, the US Brought leaders from Israel, Morocco, the United Arab Emirates.
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Jessica Tarlov
And Bahrain together to sign the Abraham Accords.
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Megan Alexander
That historic day ignited a cross border.
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Jessica Tarlov
Movement of change makers who are joining.
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Megan Alexander
Forces to reshape the region. Join me as I uncover the stories of the people transforming the Middle east today and tomorrow.
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Jessica Tarlov
Go to partners.foxnews.com method.
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Emily Compagno
Yeah. President Trump weighing military action in Iran as nationwide protests rage against the Ayatollah's regime, leaving hundreds of civilians reportedly dead. Trump warning that Tehran is flirting with disaster. Well, no, they're starting to, it looks like.
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Jesse Waters
And there seem to be some people.
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Emily Compagno
Killed that aren't supposed to be killed. These are violent. If you call them leaders. I don't know if they're leaders or just they, they rule through violence. And some of the protesters killed through the stampeding, I mean, you know, there's so many of them and some were shot. We get a full report, I'm getting an hourly report and we're going to make a determination. Trump also trolling Havana by floating little Marco as Cuba's next boss. Reposting a truth message suggesting that Marco should be the next leader of Cuba. He's got a lot of jobs, Emily. Marco, could he be the Cuban president in the near future?
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Megan Alexander
I enjoy all of those memes about Secretary Rubio. Yes. Look, here's what I appreciate about what this administration is doing and what I don't appreciate about how the left is viewing it is that we enjoyed a really strong economic and political and military relationship with Iran prior to their revolution in 1979, and we have thus since then Seen our true partners, which is the people of Iran, be absolutely extinguished. Most of them women and girls. And they say that's why the phrase is do not call the regime Iran. Call it what it is, it's the Islamic Republic. So now I see and hear only silence from those on the left that say women's rights are paramount and girls education and freedom and liberty. It is so ironic to me that we are watching truly people killed and brutality of this state sponsored, terrorist, brutal, dictatorial regime there. And yet people who are enjoying, you know, doordash and Uber get to say things like, here is where we are under a brutal regime and dictator. So I wish that more people would speak up for the Iranian people who just want peace, who aren't anti Semitic, who actually want to rebuild what the United States had with Iran in the 70s, which was so positive. Why are you shaking your head right now?
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Emily Compagno
You haven't seen the increased charges DoorDash is doing based on zip code. So fine. But Emily's making a great point. DNC somebody at DNC, the head equated the Minnesota protesters with Iran's protesters. It's pretty, it's pretty self centered, I think I would call that self centered.
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Dana Perino
Oh my gosh. And did they declare a red line?
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Emily Compagno
Yes.
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Dana Perino
So President Trump says right underneath there, Right, right underneath there it says, Trump says Iran starting to cross red lines. It will be, I think it is refreshing. It will be continued to be refreshing if red lines mean something again. Remember, Obama didn't enforce the red line. And then what did we end up covering that entire year was ISIS beheading people. So one of the things that's different this time than in 2019 is that Iran is in a currency crisis. Their currency has collapsed. Like your money's worth nothing. And at the same time, they have access to the Internet. Maybe not right now, but in general, Right? So they're looking around, the young people are looking on their phones, or they're looking at the Emirates and Saudi Arabia and Qatar and Bahrain and these opportunities that are happening all around the Middle East. And they're stuck in this. And this regime says, sorry about the fact that you can't afford anything and we make you have terrible lives, but we'll give you $7 more a month. Will that do it? And they said no. So you end up with this. The regime sort of sat back and waited, but you can tell that they're nervous. One, they cut off the Internet because they don't want them to be able to coordinate. One of the things President Trump has said, is that Elon Musk, could you please step in here? Apparently that is somewhat underway. But as Michael Allen on my podcast said today, well, maybe the best thing that we could do is a cyber attack against Iran. Then, then you have to ask, well then what is Israel doing? Because Israel got us to the point where Iran can't use its air forces against its own people. And Iran calls on Saturday and says, Mr. Trump, could we talk, could we negotiate? Negotiate what? What sort of negotiate? What are we negotiating? At this point, President Trump has the upper hand. Then the question will be does he decide that he needs to play that card and the next step would be then what?
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Emily Compagno
Because then what?
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Jessica Tarlov
Jessica, yo no say I don't think anyone knows. And I think that that's the biggest issue with what's been going on in the last few weeks for people. You know, the attack on Fordeaux, on the nuclear facility was widely praised. Democrats and Republicans happy about that. But that had a kind of bow on it. Right. And this doesn't. So what does intervening here actually mean? And you said, Emily, you know, that the left is so upset about all of this, but there are plenty of Trump supporters who are being very vocal and saying, you know, this was the no new wars, the non interventionist president, right. He said we can't be the world's policeman. I'm going to take care of you at home. And now we have whatever's going on in Venezuela with Delsey, who's like Maduro in a dress. Maybe we're taking Cuba, the French and the Germans and the Brits are sending troops to Greenland to try to support them there. As he's talking about, maybe I'll buy it, maybe I'll just take it by force. And then also, you know, bringing charges against Chairman Powell, which is, you know, a complete political move because he doesn't like the lack of rate cuts that he's been getting. And so there are plenty of people who support the president that are looking around and saying, wtf?
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Emily Compagno
What's that stand for?
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Jesse Waters
I think we all know what that stands for. If you're looking around as an honest broker and you're seeing Soleimani Baghdadi, obliteration. We're going to combine both terms. The obliteration of the Iranian nuclear program, the decapitation of the entire Iranian military regime, the Hezbollah attacks, the peace in Gaza, the extraction of Maduro to put them on trial. You guys want to due process, you're getting it. And I'm sure we're going to cut a deal with the Europeans over Greenland, and we can all bask in the rare earths which we desperately need for AI and defense. So if you look around the globe, no one's really saying wtf. I have now gotten to a place where I trust that this president is not going to screw up and get us into some kind of crazy forever war or create chaos and mass migration. This has been done so surgically and so precisely almost every single time he uses the US military or the threat of it or the threat of economic sanctions that you just got to kind of trust the process.
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Emily Compagno
I agree with you, Jesse. Truthfully, I kind of tuned out.
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Jessica Tarlov
It was boring.
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Emily Compagno
All right.
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Dana Perino
I thought it was a big time.
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Emily Compagno
Who was pretty good at ttp. My fault. Up next, Liz Warren sends up a socialist smoke signal for the Democrats.
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Jessica Tarlov
This is Ainsley Earhart.
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Megan Alexander
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Jessica Tarlov
52 episode podcast series the Life of.
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Jesse Waters
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Megan Alexander
Move over, Mom. Donnie. Senator Elizabeth Warren is drumming up support for socialist policies as the way forward for the Democratic Party, telling them to embrace a populist tax the rich economic platform and stop cozying up to wealthy donors. Watch. Movers and shakers want the Democratic Party to respond to the 2024 losses by watering down our economic agenda and sucking up to the rich and powerful, claiming that a less progressive Democratic Party will win more elections. They are wrong. A Democratic Party that worries more about offending big donors than delivering for working people is a party doomed to fail in 2026, 2028 and beyond. It is not enough simply to attack Trump. And get this, Senator Warren claims that President Trump called her right after that speech to talk about affordability. Greg, I find it so ironic that as she lambasts the rich and powerful, she is excluding herself from that group. No one is more rich and powerful than she is. And our legislators that have been decaying and growing roots in their positions for decades and nothing changes.
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Emily Compagno
She, she's got two, I think, homes worth in the millions. That's a lot of wampum.
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Megan Alexander
Yep.
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Emily Compagno
But I think you pointed us out earlier a long time ago, Dana. Once the left became millionaires, they shifted their target to billionaires. And if you took all of the money that belonged to billionaires, you wouldn't make a dent in the money that they had stolen from our taxpayers. When you see the same faces and the same name surviving every year, regardless of the corruption or the incompetence. It tells you again, this is the forever war. It's not overseas. It's here. Liz, Maxine, Adam Schiff, Nadler Schumer. You know, they do not learn from the murderous consequences of deadly ideologies of the past. That's a forever war. And we have to keep. It's like we have to keep having this argument every day. Again, I go back to the strategic ignorance. They pretend like they don't know what could happen. What are the consequences of socialism? What are the consequences of taxing wealthy people so that they leave, which is what's happening in California. California just lost a half a trillion dollars in tax base because the billionaires who, by the way, sat by while California went in the dumps. So it's hard to have sympathy for them. But, you know, in foreign countries, socialism exists as a tool to control the population. They could take it or leave it if they find something else, you know, but they have a better chance of falling than the American brand because it's camouflage. It's protected by the media. It's protected by academia. In fact, academia is probably the main reason why this stuff is still around because they pump this noxious ideology into young people's brains who don't know any better, and then we are in charge of having to school them every day at this wonderful show called the Five. Yep, yep.
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Megan Alexander
I was thinking how she sounded just like a professor during that. And that's where she belongs. To Dana. I find it so troubling that during this administration, with so much power has been restored to the people, she's just advocating to give that power from big corporations, but back to the government, to herself.
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Dana Perino
Well, she never saw a populist smoke signal that she didn't want to fan the flames of.
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Emily Compagno
I mean, she. Yes.
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Dana Perino
The thing that bothers me is that a lot of what she's talking about sometimes are things that are coming out of the administration. Like some of the ideas, like on the capping of credit card rates come at me. Whatever. I just. They're. They're ideas like hers. They melt on contact with economic reality. And the best thing that you can do is to figure out a way to have a low tax base where a lot of people are paying in, give opportunity to a lot of people, cut back on the regulate regulations like this administration is doing. She's not talking about that. Everything she wants to do is to regulate and make things harder for businesses to compete. So I think that what's interesting is that there's A lot of coverage about the split amongst the Republicans and is MAGA coming apart and what's happening to the action where all the division is is really on the Democratic side. This morning you saw Rahm Emanuel, who might want to run in 2028, saying he wants to be a part of the renewal wing rather than just the, you know, basically get, get rid of Donald Trump wing. That's what she would find herself there. But this is the last calculation I think that she's figured out. She believes that Bernie Sanders is too old to run again in 2028. So she says how can I get two steps to his left or two lanes to his left so that she can try to fill that.
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Megan Alexander
The thing that I see from her too, Jesse, is this othering businesses. And who do you think owns the businesses? Hard working Americans and veterans, they start out small and guess what, in this capitalistic environment, if you become successful, they become larger and maybe big. So she's lambasting literally the majority of Americans, which is probably why so many are fleeing her party.
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Jesse Waters
So she's a populist and Trump's a populist. So Trump tries to help workers and she tries to hurt CEOs. She's about punishing CEOs. It's like revenge porn. You know, this is about punishment. Doesn't help anybody. She's just getting back at them. And that does appeal to a lot of people who hate their bosses or think their bosses are overpaid or make too much money. And so that will work because people get angry about that. But that's not effective. And if you look at the Democrats program, whether it's Obamacare that just helped insurance companies open borders, just helps companies depress wages. The vax mandate that just helped big Pharma, a lot of their policies only help donors. They don't actually help the working man. So until she can figure out how to thread the needle between making sure companies are fair to workers but also making sure that workers can get a leg up, then she's just a hater.
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Dana Perino
Yeah.
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Megan Alexander
Is she pushing away all those swing and working class voters by leaning into this?
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Jessica Tarlov
Not based on the generic ballot or party ID, it's been a 13 point swing towards Democrats since the 2024 election and Republicans. You can talk about us all you want and say these socialists, these communists or whatever, but they're.
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Emily Compagno
No, you guys are saying that. No, she says he's a socialist.
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Jessica Tarlov
Listen, Jesse says, who's going to help the worker? We've been bleeding blue collar jobs. Manufacturing contracted for what, like 10 months in a row? And Elizabeth Warren is just being Elizabeth Warren. She has talked this way her entire career. There's nothing new there. Also, I said in the last segment that what Jesse said was boring. That wasn't nice of me. I actually didn't even think that it was boring.
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Jesse Waters
Oh, we're apologizing now?
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Jessica Tarlov
Well, you. You can go next.
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Jesse Waters
I didn't say anything mean to you. This show.
- [32:29]
Megan Alexander
No.
- [32:29]
Jessica Tarlov
Greg upset me, and I.
- [32:30]
Jesse Waters
If anybody should apologize, it's Greg D Block.
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Emily Compagno
I'm trying to actually help people.
- [32:35]
Megan Alexander
Just.
- [32:35]
Emily Compagno
If you listen to me, your entire life would improve.
- [32:39]
Megan Alexander
I get them.
- [32:40]
Jessica Tarlov
I listen to you all the time. And it has not had that effect.
- [32:42]
Emily Compagno
That's true.
- [32:43]
Jesse Waters
How do you sit around the table with all these brilliant minds, Jessica, and nothing rubs off?
- [32:49]
Megan Alexander
All right, I just was.
- [32:50]
Dana Perino
Maybe that's more about.
- [32:51]
Megan Alexander
I'm sorry.
- [32:52]
Jesse Waters
You know what?
- [32:52]
Megan Alexander
I'm sorry.
- [32:53]
Jesse Waters
I'm sorry now.
- [32:54]
Megan Alexander
I'm sorry. That's smoking the peace pipe. All right, guys. Up next, Hollywood liberals were wearing anti ice pins as the Golden Globes turned political.
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Jesse Waters
Hollywood celebrities like Mark Ruffalo wearing anti ice pins at the Golden Globes with messages, ice out and be good. And other libs went wild. That was 10 years ago. You know, since then, we've had Covid. I believe we're a dictatorship now. This is for her.
- [33:35]
Emily Compagno
This is for the people in the United States who are terrorized and scared today.
- [33:41]
Jesse Waters
Emily, did you watch?
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Megan Alexander
Of course not. I would rather slide down a razor blade banister into a vat of lemon juice. Here's the deal. I despise these so much. First of all, I love Judd Apta. Oh, we're in a. We're in a dictatorship. What's happening in Iran right now? This just goes back to everything that we were talking about tonight. Secondly, they got the pins inside. Apparently, it's sort of like when you go into an Eagles game and you have, like, the flag on the. On the seat that you get it for the game. They get their pins on the inside. So they're not even wearing it for their. Like, who are you wearing? What collection are you part of? Nothing says I'm terrified of the government quite like saying it from a $50,000 seat in a room full of private security when all of them are wearing 50 hundreds of thousand dollars of jewelry and outfits and in their petri dish of applause and commercial breaks and all of the things. So spare me, Hollywood. You guys are all of the problem.
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Jesse Waters
Jessica, why do you guys always wear pins?
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Jessica Tarlov
Trump wears a pin of Himself and an American flag.
- [34:39]
Jesse Waters
That's true. That was funny. But usually you guys do the whole pin thing. What's that about?
- [34:42]
Jessica Tarlov
It's a way to be quiet and in solidarity. Anyway, I did watch the show. Very excited by all the K Pop Demon hunters wins. My girls are obsessed with it. Do your kids love the. Anyway, Soda pop.
- [34:53]
Jesse Waters
Soda pop.
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Megan Alexander
Wait, like from the Outsiders? Soda pop.
- [34:56]
Jesse Waters
Did you think this was a particularly political show tonight?
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Dana Perino
I did. I only saw little clips.
- [35:02]
Jesse Waters
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
So I didn't see a lot of it, but I think that with the pins, they took them off as soon as they were walking out the door.
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Megan Alexander
Totally.
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Dana Perino
This is your typical, like, low information Hollywood activist. It's only for one night, Greg.
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Emily Compagno
Yeah. What did the pins say? It'd be good. What was the name of the victim?
- [35:17]
Jesse Waters
Good.
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Emily Compagno
Good. Yeah. Be good. It's a play on words, but they would never, ever take it literally, you know, they would not just leave their kids, you know, with a stranger and then spend their days harassing law enforcement. Be good. The button is like the perfect virtue signal. It's no cost to them and no thought to the message that it actually sends. You guys go take the risk. We'll be at home. One thing about Ruffalo and also Sean Penn that was there. These guys are old school protesters and activists all through climate change, Native American stuff. Shouldn't they step in and just kind of say, hey, guys, this isn't how we do things. You're turning this into a Roman Coliseum spectacle. You know, when we protested, we didn't antagonize law enforcement. We would get arrested. We would comply. There's nothing cops hate more than bad cops. It taints their profession. The same thing should be with protesters. There should be nothing worse for a protester than one that soils your cause.
- [36:19]
Jesse Waters
What did the hippies do? They put, like, a flower in the barrel of the gun. Yeah, why don't we go back to that?
- [36:26]
Megan Alexander
Penn had some guns in the trunk, though. Remember that? He's not exactly without violence.
- [36:31]
Jesse Waters
I don't know what that means. The fastest is up next. What does that mean?
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Jessica Tarlov
Bad news for me. As if you didn't think the show could get any worse for me. Members of Gen Z have decided that Jessica is the new Karen, that type of woman, usually white. I'm white. Who jumps into drama that has absolutely nothing to do with her. I don't think I do that. But, Dana, I don't think you do drama.
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Dana Perino
And I also think there are way too many people named Jessica for this to be true. And it reminded me that my nieces birthday is next Tuesday. Her name is Jessica. And now I will be getting her a present.
- [37:15]
Jessica Tarlov
Okay, There we go. Happy birthday, Jessica. Greg.
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Emily Compagno
It was the most popular name for babies in the 80s and also the 90s. There are 55,000 women in the United States named Jessica. The average age is 39. So you have this generational presence. But get this.
- [37:35]
Jesse Waters
What?
- [37:36]
Emily Compagno
It's the number one name of women in the active adult workforce force. So think about that. And it goes because there's so many. Chances are the annoying one is going to be named Jessica. We have a Jessica that, that works in media. She's great. Oh yeah, we have a Jessica here. She's great. But I don't know if we have any. Jessica's in human resources that would be worth checking out.
- [37:58]
Jessica Tarlov
We do. Jesse, you are Jessica adjacent because Jesse is.
- [38:03]
Jesse Waters
No, no, don't drag me into this.
- [38:05]
Jessica Tarlov
Jessica, it's you and me, kid.
- [38:06]
Jesse Waters
No, I don't want any part of of that. I think this is about you. I'm sorry. This is a really hot show. This show's so hot. Everybody hears Jessica, they think of you and you're Jessica. Annoying one on the five and it went mainstream.
- [38:20]
Emily Compagno
You don't even have people don't even say your last name anymore.
- [38:23]
Jesse Waters
Yeah, you're like Madonna.
- [38:24]
Emily Compagno
Oh yeah.
- [38:25]
Megan Alexander
That's awesome.
- [38:26]
Jessica Tarlov
Well, you're just talking about what shots.
- [38:30]
Megan Alexander
Okay, to me, Jessicas are just like gorgeous and awesome and like growing up in the 80s it was totally Jessica Wakefield from Sweet Valley High.
- [38:38]
Emily Compagno
Like Jessica Savage.
- [38:39]
Megan Alexander
Way too, too ubiquitous for it to be Simpson. Totally. Who I love baby Jessica. Did she get Michael Rip? Okay, she was one that fell down the tunnel.
- [38:49]
Jessica Tarlov
Dana has agreed. One more thing. We gotta get to it.
- [38:51]
Emily Compagno
Jessica.
- [38:52]
Jesse Waters
What's the chick?
- [38:54]
Jessica Tarlov
We'll talk about in the break.
- [38:55]
Emily Compagno
Bye Lang. Jessica Lang.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
It's time now for one more thing. And I'm so excited I'm talking over myself. Okay, I want to do a new section segment called Here's a story that fell off the front page. I'm looking through the newspaper and I find that back in October, do you remember when everyone was up in arms because President Trump and Scott Benson gave a loan to Argentina? Like how could you do that? How could you give our hard earned money to Argentina? You guys, on Friday, Argentina paid it all back and nobody even noticed. I saw this and I thought I should make sure that everyone knows that Argentina has already fully repaid it. Good job. Milei PODC with Michael Allen. All about international matters.
- [39:42]
Emily Compagno
Greg Flag on the play. You don't do news in one more thing, Dana. Do you know how this makes us feel? It makes us feel newsy. I feel like I have too much news in me right now.
- [39:55]
Dana Perino
Aren't you glad you know that, though?
- [39:57]
Emily Compagno
We could have done that as a.
- [39:58]
Dana Perino
Segment tomorrow tonight that was never going.
- [40:01]
Emily Compagno
To make it as Kennedy, Jeff Dye, Terry Shapard. Oh, yeah, Tyrus. That's next. Do I have time to do this? Animals are great. Animals are great. All right. Check out this short king taking on a monster. See that little dare there, huh? Look at this. It's a. It's a Muntjac deer versus a rhino named Maruska. It's like a fight between Dana Perino and Liz Cheney. Look at Liz Cheney over there shaking her head like, oh, I didn't get into this. I thought the January 6th commission was going to save me. But no, no, no. Trump's back, and he's in the shape of a maniacal deer. Get me out of here. Oh, it's pretty cute.
- [40:44]
Dana Perino
I love it.
- [40:45]
Jesse Waters
Jesse, we have animals. Not so great for me. This weekend I went pheasant hunting and my first pheasant hunt, and I was just on fire. I had a great time. And then we went to the Eagles game, and the Eagles lost. Birds are dead. We got a shot of the eagle in the background. I don't know if you guys.
- [41:01]
Dana Perino
You shot the eagle? Saw that?
- [41:03]
Jesse Waters
No. Listen to the five and Amazon music with your prime membership or subscribe wherever.
- [41:09]
Emily Compagno
You get your podcasts.