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Harold Ford Jr.
Now it's time.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Hello there, everyone.
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Martha MacCallum
I'm Martha MacCallum, along with Ainsley Earhart, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld. Five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five. And here we go. It's the big question haunting Democrats as they try to claw back the Senate. What other bombshells could drop for the embattled Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner? There's that picture again. You haven't seen enough today, right? Democrat senators reportedly pressed him on just that. They had a big meeting in D.C. he went down there to talk to them all. Liz Warren said, you know, there's a big difference between marital issues and allegations of sexual assault. Well, certainly there are. The oyster farmer agreed with that. He said there is no credible allegation of assault that will be forthcoming. He is sure. Senators, apparently that was good enough for these Democrats.
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Greg Gutfeld
Are these accusations disturbing to you?
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Harold Ford Jr.
What is disturbing to me is what's
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Martha MacCallum
happening in this economy. If I lived in Maine, I would hold my nose and I would tip
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Jesse Watters
full lever and I would vote for him.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Graham Platner is dedicated to the prospect of defending our Constitution. A man who's willing to stand up
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Greg Gutfeld
to this administration is the type of
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Harold Ford Jr.
voice we need in the US Senate,
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Jesse Watters
even though he got kicked.
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Martha MacCallum
Are you with the Republican body?
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Jesse Watters
It doesn't matter.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Are you talking about morality and corruption with President Trump?
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Martha MacCallum
Have a nice day. Have a nice day. All right. So just a few moments ago, this story dropped from the New York Times. It has a lot of salacious stuff in it, and here's a bit of it. Several women who dated Graham Plattner recall unsettling behavior. One ex girlfriend revealing disturbing rape fantasies that Platner shared with her quote, and here we go. He said this a lot. If anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them. She recalled saying that. He added that it would not be, quote, in a sexual way, not in a gay way. He was like, I would rape them to show them I'm dominant. She says the ex girlfriend who he dated for two years also raised questions about whether he lied about the meaning of or not really being aware of the meaning of his Nazi tattoo. New York Times reporting that Platner called it, quote, my Totenkopf. Platner's campaign strongly denies that he knew about the tattoo's meaning and that he later had it removed. He says accusations in this piece are coming from a, quote, lifelong GOP operative. So here we go. We got wind earlier today. Ansi, I'll start with you. That More was coming. There are also, we should point out, other women that they interviewed for this piece who say he was kind, that he was a good boyfriend, that he was a good person. You know, so they cast a wide net, and they've got a lot of everything in here.
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Ainsley Earhardt
I mean, it's. This is not good for him. They wanted to interview all six of those women they interviewed. They found three that were willing to give their names and talk. Well, actually, out of the negative ones, two gave their names, and one was in his 20s, one was in his 30s. They said he was physically threatening, drank heavily, regularly, unfaithful, did know that the tattoo was Nazi symbol, as you said, Martha. And then grabbing her by the shoulders, sometimes hard enough to leave marks. One occasion, yanked her out of her cab by her wrist, twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom, held the door closed from the other side so that she couldn't get out, telling her to remain there until she was calm. A. Eventually, she fell asleep, and then she left the next morning. That is creepy. That is very scary. Imagine if that happened to you and you couldn't get out and you just had to go to bed. The idea of, if someone broke in your house. My dad would say, I'm getting a gun. He wouldn't say, I'm going to rape the man to prove a point, to show him that I'm the one who's dominant. He had crude names for women's anatomy. One of the women wrote in her diary, the most toxic, literally abusive man on earth who destroyed my life. And her friends messaged her, text messaged her, do not call Graham. I think that the Democratic Party, this is a hit job. I think they're doing this. I think they want him to resign. I think that they're going to get through the primary, which is next Tuesday, and then he has to drop out by June 26th. I think they're meeting with him behind closed doors, telling him to drop out and hoping that he will. I don't know if he will. Will he get out? He might not. He might say, I don't want to. The Democratic Party has changed. It's the Democratic Party of the radicals now. This is Talarico, Mom, Donnie. This is the party of the squad. This is no longer Chuck Schumer's party. And I think that's why when he's interviewed about this, he says all he can say is, said it five times, we're going to take back the Senate. I think the blowback he knows would be so severe if he didn't support what the squad is telling him to do, and it would be untenable. The only one who's making sense, who has moral clarity, I think, is Fetterman.
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Martha MacCallum
So Harold, I mean, I wonder if Sunny Hostin will still hold her nose and vote for him if she were a Maine voter. It'll be interesting to see what the response is here. It's also an interesting comment on early voting. They've been voting since early May. Over 40% of Maine voters have already voted in this election. And it's highly possible that he could skate through and say, look, I'm your guy, I won the primary and that's the way it's going to be. Just do you think that Democrats will change their course here based on any of this?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Good to be with you. I think that is. That's the question of the moment. I think Ainslie said it well. There's no doubt there's probably pressure being applied. I would hope there is pressure being applied. I've said on the show for the last two or three days now that if I were voting in Maine, I'm a Democrat, he would not be my choice as voting for a Democratic nominee. I think in fairness to some of the people probably voted earlier, some of these stories are now coming out and maybe some of those people would have changed their minds. I do think that in fairness to other candidates across the country, I happen to like James Talarico, I happen to like Josh Turek in Iowa. I happen to think that Sherrod Brown, who's ahead in Ohio, they deserve to be able to run these races without having to answer questions about this guy. And I think if Democrats are serious about affordability issues, serious about trying to find the right path to resolution in Iran, serious about addressing housing and education and the kinds of challenges everyday Americans are facing, I hope they're applying as much pressure as they possibly can because it sounds as if this story and some of this stuff mayhow he's been accused of these things. He certainly has the opportunity and Right. Hadn't been charged with anything to answer these things. But we are in, I think, a critical election period. We may differ on who the candidate should be, but I think the campaign should be about issues and substance and the things people are facing, not what this young man is dealing with. And so I hope he considers that and I hope they continue to apply the right pressure.
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Martha MacCallum
Jesse, what's your take?
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Greg Gutfeld
It's over. He can't survive it. They have women on the record calling him a brute he was rough with them. He twisted their arms behind their back, locked them in closets, grabbed them by the wrist, roughed them up, left marks. I mean, you survive that. No one can survive that. The guy's an animal. He's unstable. He might even be mentally ill. He's in therapy. And so the whole Nazi tattoo started. It should have been over. Then why are we still talking about Graham Platner? He should have been out on his keister last month. But the Democrats are so desperate for the seat because if they don't get it, they don't get to pack the court and add D.C. and Puerto Rico as states. So they are all in. And they've totally sacrificed the moral high ground. Remember the moral high ground. With Democrats, it was about character. And they were these knights in shining armor defending these institutions and the democracy and forget about it. They don't have any high ground. They never had it. They never will. This guy is a beast. He knew the tattoo was a Nazi tattoo. She's saying he was joking about it. He called it my little token cough. And then he would rape an intruder, but not in a gay way. This guy should probably be institutionalized as the party of women, the Democratic Party. There is no way they're going to tolerate that. And nothing makes these politicians angrier when you embarrass them. They've gone way out on a limb for this guy, and they have been on camera, on the record, defending this guy, and he told them to their face this was it, and it wasn't. So they've been humiliated. There's no way this guy survives. And the fact that this is all based on documentation, like text messages, two dozen interviews and diary entries, it's indisputable. His judgment is horrific. And if you're gonna put yourself at risk like this, and women at risk, you're gonna put the people of Maine at risk. And there's no way Maine is gonna tolerate a guy like that.
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Martha MacCallum
Yeah. I mean, it's interesting to me, Greg, that in this particular piece, there isn't more on this kick account that he had. I don't know why this grown man has a kick account. It's like, for teenagers to talk to each other. And apparently he was quite active on it. Nothing new in this particular piece, but we certainly live with the possibility that there's more coming out.
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Jesse Watters
Youth outreach. That's what I believe it was. He cares about the kids. There's a lot of lessons that are bigger than this. Just one thing, and they're pretty interesting. I love the Shift in rhetoric of the Democrats for no reason. They'll call any non lib Nazi or a fascist. When it comes to Platner for the last couple of weeks, you know, it's concerning behavior and you know, he might not be my first choice, but in this climate, you never know. Musk raises his arm above his waist, they want to burn down his dealerships. They go after Justice Kavanaugh like he's a date rapist. But Platner, the most repugnant guy you've heard of, they're suddenly non judgmental. The Nazi spears that they often use and the MeToo stridency just goes away. And what do we keep being told about his dark period? A dark period? Like he's a painter. Have you seen his dark period? Maybe it's not a period. Maybe it's a life. Maybe it's a dark life. I mean, was there a time when there wasn't a dark period? Like a month in 2003. Do an investig story on that. This destroys another lie, which is once you compare Platner to Swalwell, which are. Both have creep tattooed on their foreheads for anyone to see. But there is a key difference. Platner's stuff came out before he was elected. So could this be a do over for all the Dems who said, you know, wow, if I had only known about Swalwell before he was elected, I never would have supported him. I would have condemned him. Well, now you have that chance. This is a complete do over. You can do it, Sunny Hostin. You can do it, Bernie Sanders. But you're not. Which tells us that you likely knew that Swalwell was a creep, but you were willing to go with the creep because the creep was on your team. So you lied to us about Swalwell. You're lying here. So given this mosaic of creepiness that we have, you know, he said he joined, he enlisted because he wanted to kill people. He blames rape victims. He accused Chris Kyle of killing civilians. He wished the death of a war hero. He was on a hookup app for pedos and pervs. Got it. I mean, let's not forget small thing, Nazi tattoo. I know. We pretend to forget about it. And then there was that thing where he praised Hamas. We forgot about that. This guy makes school shooters look stable. But I'm going to go out and defend him. He's exactly what he is. It's not his fault. He's not going to change. He's never going to change. It's the Dems who keep changing. Accommodating to a new low whenever something comes out. I know what Platner is. Every human being on this earth knows what you probably know. A Platner. Everybody has a platner. But what are the Dems? The secret here is the Dems don't know who they are, therefore they are incapable of judging anybody else.
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Martha MacCallum
Well said.
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Jesse Watters
Why, thank you, Jesse.
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Greg Gutfeld
You're welcome. I didn't mean it.
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Martha MacCallum
I mean, you have to wonder if they're second guessing why they invited him to Washington to have these discussions. They could have waited a few days and all of this comes out. But I think Ainsley's probably right, that this is part of a campaign to push him, you know, off. Off the ledge, off the campaign. And I have also heard that in Maine, they're looking at. They've got five Democrats who are running for governor in a big, crowded primary that potentially one of them might be their next pick in this race. So we will see. All right, coming up next, say it to my face. Dr. Jill Biden with some fighting words for those in her party who are daring to criticize her during her book tour.
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Jesse Watters
Maybe not whales. The Biden's backstab book Tour continues with Dr. Jill snapping at a former flack who trashed her new tell all as not what the party needs right now.
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Martha MacCallum
I see this quote from Andrew Bates, who's a former aide to President Biden,
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Greg Gutfeld
of course, and he went on record referring to your book, and he says,
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Jesse Watters
why does that painful conversation for the
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Ainsley Earhardt
party need to be publicly reopened right now? I just want to say that my
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Greg Gutfeld
book has one chapter on the political wounds.
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Ainsley Earhardt
One.
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Jesse Watters
One.
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Ainsley Earhardt
I want to say to Andrew.
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Greg Gutfeld
Call me up and say it to my face, buddy.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Wow.
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Jesse Watters
All right. And Joe is mustering whatever brain cells he has left to announce that he has a new book coming out in September right before the midterms, all while wandering into Jill's book tour. Oh, Joe has a question.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Like you couldn't ask it later?
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Martha MacCallum
Who do you love most in the whole world,
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Greg Gutfeld
Whoopi?
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Ainsley Earhardt
I love you most, Joe.
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Martha MacCallum
Was that it?
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Ainsley Earhardt
Is that the answer?
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Harold Ford Jr.
He wanted my book, which comes out in September.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Do I have to remind him this is my event?
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Jesse Watters
You know, Jesse, this is a shameless, oblivious couple. But if anyone could make me sympathetic to them, it's this scumbag, Andrew Bates, who was part of the whole White House infrastructure and strategy to demonize anybody outside the White House as either a Nazi or a fascist. This guy put targets on people's backs. And so I guess I like the fact that they're all devouring each other cuz they're all dirt bags.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. And I wanna see him eaten first and then I wanna see him get stuck in Jill's teeth.
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Jesse Watters
Yes.
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Greg Gutfeld
Never get a toothpick and just stab him over until it gets out on the kitchen sink. The October surprise that Joe's books coming out is amazing. Now he has to know, Greg, that he's not popular. He has to know it's going to hurt the Democrats in the midterms. So why is he doing it then? Revenge. He still is mad that he got whacked. He's still mad at Barack and Schumer and Nancy for doing what they did. And so this is just a continuation of the revenge tour. And I'm also hearing that the Hunter documentary is coming out before the midterms. So this is a one, two punch to the people that they think abandoned them. Now, have you started following Hunter on Twitter? This guy is savage. He's just been beefing with all these haters. He said the other day they were like, was that your coke in the White House? And he's like, my coke? I would never lose my drugs. And he's like, I don't even do coke. I smoke crack. So it's been a bad week for Democrats between Jill the California collapse, nipple Nazi, now Pelli getting screwed over. If you're looking for a blue wave, this is not a very good start.
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Jesse Watters
I would definitely vote for Hunter over Platner. Maybe there's the replacement, you know. Harold, you're on the phone. What are you doing?
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'm just listening to you.
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Jesse Watters
All right. You know, if Biden writes this book, is that technically ghostwritten?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Look, I share your view on the young man, Mr. Bates. I don't like when people work for a and make their bones working for president and then see fit to do something like this. If he wanted, if he feels that way, she should have called her and not aired that publicly. I feel bad for President Biden because don't get me wrong, the things that I've said about the first lady in the book and about if you thought he was having a health matter, that might have been the time to say we need a new nominee. And I hope, I don't mean to be rude to her, but President Biden, he had a 40 year career in public life. He was a United States Senator who accomplished a great deal in the Senate, was a bipartisan leader in the Senate, even when he was vice president for President Obama. He was the one when the government was shut down. He was the one that was able to go over and communicate with McConnell and senators and congressmen. He had that there was something about him that made him a bipartisan leader. And frankly, if he were in the Senate today, the old Joe Biden, he'd be leading the effort to try to find ways to work with President Trump on things that matter to the country. Doing this the way they're doing this is not good for his. Is not good for his legacy. History will judge people how they will judge him. As simple and as stupid as that statement sounds, you can't push it. You can't force it. And it sounds and feels like this is trying to force something. Jesse's right. Putting a book out in September, if we are in the lead in some of these, in some of these key Senate races and congressional races, I just don't see how this helps. Because the only question that I really want to see answered in any of these books is, why did you renege on the promise to serve just one term? Because I think had you done that, had you just served one term, we'd be raving about you in the most positive and favorable of ways. But look, everyone has the right to do what they want to do. I wish him the best, but I wish the book wasn't coming out in September, because I think that's all we're going to be talking about, especially if we're in the lead in key races.
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Jesse Watters
I don't know, Martha. In a correct world, these people would be tarred and feathered, all of them, for what they did to the United States, lying about a president that was out of commission. But instead, we just. Now it's just a clown show.
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Martha MacCallum
I mean, the person that Harold just described accurately is not the person who was President of the United States for the last couple of years. Jill Biden had an opportunity. She says she loves her husband and that she's honest with him. She said, I'm as honest with my husband as I am with my students. Now, that may be far be it for me to get. I'm not inside her head. But for me, if you love someone and you're honest with them, you're gonna say, joe, let's stick to the bridge to the future that you promised America, and let's leave this office with grace and integrity and your past career intact. I love you. I don't want you to do this. But what do we hear in the book? That she loved coming home and having her cabernet waiting for her at the White House. That she loved the way the wardrobe people kept everything in line in the wardrobe. And so it seems maybe she was too attached to all of that and she decided to push through, like the Weekend at Bernie's agenda. And it was dangerous and wrong for the American people.
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Jesse Watters
I have to say this, though. Ansley does give us a lot of segments in the summer. Very slow news. This will fill up a B block.
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Ainsley Earhardt
The Republicans are loving this, that he is going to write this book. And I think she's very angry. Martha and I were looking at each other when we were playing those sound bites at the 92nd Street Y. She was saying basically, like, sit down. Why are you standing up? Can't you do this later? Like, he's taking my time. And then she said at the end. What was the comment she said at the end? She said something like, don't you know, it's my turn. It's not your turn. She's angry at the party for the way that they treated him. The George Clooneys of the world, his aides that have come out. Jake Tapper. You know, my mother had a stroke. And the first thing my dad did, it was like 3 o' clock in the morning. And when I. I got the phone call, he called 911 immediately. He came home late at night and found my mom in their bedroom against the bed on the floor. And he called 911. The ambulance came, all my neighbors came over. I got the call right before Fox and Friends. That's how you handle a stroke. She thought he was having a stroke, but then she took him to the Waffle House. She didn't call 911. That was a lie. She lied, saying it was an isolated incident. We know that's not true. And then she said backstage, you did a terrible job, but then went out and said, he did a great job. So this is really good for the Republican Party. Sorry, Harold. I know you don't want that book to come out, but the more we can talk about this, it just reminds us that the Democrat, Democratic Party, they have all lied to us. And it also reminds us that the party is so different than it was. The old guard has to step aside for this new guard. Like I was saying in the last segment, the squad is in charge now.
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Jesse Watters
All right, coming up next, Dems get testy over Rubio looking dressy, but I grow into a field. You lay upon me and step away.
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Greg Gutfeld
Democrats acting like toddlers again in front of Congress after turning a Foreign Affairs Committee hearing about the Iran War into a circus of Petty one liners and zingers. Little Marco found himself in a fashion firefighter after one Democrat decided to police his shoes.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Just like you won't admit President Trump is losing this reckless war of choice. And just like you couldn't admit that the shoes the President bought you were too big.
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Jesse Watters
I don't know what shoes she's talking about. What is she talking about? He gave me some Florsheim shoes. They're actually pretty good. They fit fine. I don't know. I don't know what she's talking about. And maybe that's what she's referring to.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Your shoes look very nice today, Mr. Secretary.
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Jesse Watters
How can you see them? They're way down here.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Shoes.
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Greg Gutfeld
Are you guys kidding me?
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Harold Ford Jr.
I mean, is this the Foreign Affairs Committee or is this like a circus? What is this?
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Greg Gutfeld
So we've noticed, Greg, that these people get up and they just read whatever stupid joke the staff wrote.
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Jesse Watters
I would never do that.
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Greg Gutfeld
You come up with it all yourself now, you know?
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Jesse Watters
Okay, so when I'm watching this, I get this. I get this feeling like I'm watching on Instagram when a. A kind of an exhausted flight attendant is dealing with a psychotic tantrum throwing passenger. I feel like the country somehow is divided into not by political belief anymore, but by skills in how to handle life. You know, the world doesn't have. I don't think the world has more problems. What it does have is more people who cannot handle problems. And I think that's what you see in this contrast, which is you have. Rubio is a problem solver and they look at him like he's a space alien. You know, we have. We think that the world is, oh, my God, what's going on? This chaos. No, we have a population that is handicapped by a culture that has excused their lethargy and their gracelessness as part of their identity. A part of them being aggrieved. They don't have to try. They don't have to. These people, they're not trying. They look. It's actually they are. They gotta try that hard to look stupid. But they certainly aren't, like, preparing. They don't feel they have to prepare. Marco Rubio comes off as Winston Churchill, not because he's super brilliant, but because they're barely sentient. Al Green sounded like a homeless vagrant. Jacob sounds like she just got arrested for shoplifting lip gloss at the cbs. He speaks like Rubio speaks like an adult. And it's like you go, what happened to the rest of these people, these Democrats? It's like Harold, you're the last one. You're the last one. I am legend. You are the last man walking among the zombies.
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Greg Gutfeld
Harold, your name was invoked. The floor is yours.
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Harold Ford Jr.
The gravity of the moment doesn't seem to be being embraced by enough people in Congress. They are serious issues, not only hanging over Congress, but hanging over our geopolitical landscape that had real serious consequences. I mean, I would have thought that maybe they did ask these questions and we don't see them, but I watched a little of this, and I didn't see enough of this. I mean, why not ask the leader? Why not ask the Secretary of State? Are we prepared as a nation to lift sanctions on Iran, to open a strait of Hormuz? And if not, what? What's holding us up? We've heard the President now say for weeks. Give me another three days. Give me another week. Give me another two weeks. We're close. It doesn't seem we're much closer. Mr. Secretary, give us a sense so I can go home and explain to my voters, why aren't we asking him? Why aren't we giving Ukraine more weapons? They seem to be winning. They seem to be advancing. If they had more weapons, could they win this? In July, President Trump is scheduled to go to Turkey for NATO meetings. What is he going to say? These are the questions that should be being asked. The fact that we're talking about his shoes, I thought his line about shoes, I thought he was really an Allen Iverson thing about practice is what he was making. I thought he was funny about it. But he was right to say this is a circus, this is a clown act. It'd be different if we were not facing such serious, serious matters around the globe. We are.
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Greg Gutfeld
I think the congresswoman wants to be you, Ainsley. She wants to be on television. She's trying to say something snappy to get a lot of attention. She should just stay in her lane.
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Martha MacCallum
I know.
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Ainsley Earhardt
I'm listening to Harold talk and I'm looking at his paper and he has a picture of just the shoes.
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Harold Ford Jr.
We all do.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Okay, I know. I know that lady. What is her name? Sarah Jacobs. She's very young. You can tell she's inexperienced. That's why she is like you said, she did this the whole time. But she's talking to a very experienced politician, someone who could be President of the United States soon. Marco Rubio and Mark Wayne Mullen did a great job. Scott Besant did a great job. They schooled the Democrats and they have so much experience. I would be nervous if I were in my 20s or 30s, and I had to ask him questions because he's so experienced and, you know he's going to snap back. So knowing that, wouldn't you go in and say, let's just stick to the topics, not try to get off. She was trying to get a TikTok moment. She was trying to. It was a circus, theatrics. She wanted her 15 minutes of fame. And I think that's what was the question she kept asking. If we have ended the war, did we win or did we lose? If we have ended the war, who won? That's the question you're going to ask. No, ask about Ukraine, ask about Iran. The most pressing issue to her are shoes. When we have so much going on in our country. I just thought it was embarrassing for her. Al Green telling. Shouting to shut up. And then Maxine Waters and Gregory Meeks, yes or no? Give me a yes or no answer. Telling him to shut up, too. These are lawmakers.
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Martha MacCallum
You know, I thought it was interesting to me that Chris Murphy, who loves to have these kind of moments, didn't even try with Rubio. He's like, there's no. I'm not messing with this guy. He's serious. Which I listen to people who say that we have such deep problems in this country. They're so worried about the country. They're worried about the Constitution. I'm thinking, oh, my God. I'm worried about the massive unseriousness that exists among members of Congress. Harold, can you please just go back?
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Harold Ford Jr.
No, I like it here better.
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Martha MacCallum
I mean, maybe, you know what? They should. They should take you part time. Like, even if you could just come, like, five hours a week, it would be like elevating the entire thing so dramatically, but just a massive unseriousness. And then Rubio just, like, throws it right back at them. He's like, looping in, like, Kanye west lines, like, about, you know, back when OJ Wore isotoners, like, weaving it into his very intellectual interpretation. And they don't even know what hit them. They have no idea what hit them. So I'm glad that he called it what it was. It was a circus and an embarrassment to the country.
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Greg Gutfeld
And you know what they say about guys with big shoes. Martha.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Yeah.
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Martha MacCallum
Remember the whole little hands thing, big feet?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Let me write that down.
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Greg Gutfeld
Coming up next, the Reverend Al Sharpton is throwing around the S word for Trump's UFC fight. How to be an American.
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Martha MacCallum
At least I know I'm free. Teddy Roosevelt actually fought himself. Are you planning to get into the
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Harold Ford Jr.
cage we'll have to think about that.
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Greg Gutfeld
This sounds like not a good idea.
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Ainsley Earhardt
President Trump getting a history lesson on fights at the White House as he gears up for the upcoming Big America 250 UFC matches this month. But not everybody is a fan. The Reverend Al Sharpton is making a shocking comparison to slavery. Watch.
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Greg Gutfeld
There is a connection of why they're
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Harold Ford Jr.
having these fights on the.
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Jesse Watters
On the White House law and the
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Harold Ford Jr.
UFO and all, whatever they call UFC
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Jesse Watters
and all that, because they're trying to
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Greg Gutfeld
go back to that when, you know,
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Jesse Watters
they'd watch people have these fights for
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Greg Gutfeld
the slave masters and they'd be entertained by.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Can you believe that? So slavery, Martha, this is a ufc. They're volunteering. They get paid to do this.
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Martha MacCallum
It's a huge sport. My guess is that anybody who's mocking this event or, you know, doesn't like it, has never been to a UFC fight. It's an absolutely electric experience, and it is a very high level of athletic performance. These guys get paid millions of dollars to be in these fights, and they are from all different countries, all different, you know, skin colors from all over the world. They've been training their entire lives for this moment. And I think mocking it and comparing it to slavery is just ridiculous.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Yeah, I mean, Greg, we love gladiators, right?
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Jesse Watters
Oh, tell me about it.
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Ainsley Earhardt
You get football players, and we love to watch them because they're brave, our soldiers. They're brave. This is the land of the free and home of the brave, and that's what these fighters are.
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Jesse Watters
I disagree completely with everything you just said. No, Al Sharpton has no connection to the world unless he tethers it to racism. He doesn't. And this was even funnier because he didn't even know what he was talking about, but somehow he still was able to throw. I don't know what this thing is. Ufa, whatever, but it's racist. Look, I want to include slavery in the event. I was talking about this with Harold. I think that when a fighter loses, he has to be the winner's slave.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You're not talking about this with me.
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Jesse Watters
Yeah, no, we were talking about about it. We were talking about, look, you know, the beauty of the SPLC and the Jussie Smollett era. We don't have to take this stuff seriously anymore. We know that it's always been a scam, and we aren't cowed by it. You know, we didn't start slavery. We fought to end it. No one did that, including Africa, where the slave trade really flourished. Blacks were enslaving blacks and some whites, too. Sunny Hostin's family owns slaves. No wonder she has to hold her nose. But every time slavery came up, you know, we have to supply context, but we aren't. Now we just laugh at this stuff. You guys said this so many times that we are. We're done. We're done. Call whatever. Call it whatever you want. We don't care. Harold, Just call me.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You know, I like the ufc. I'm a fan, and I like Dana White. I'm also a great pal of Reverend Sharpe, and I understand some of his.
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Jesse Watters
You're friends with everybody, Harold.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I understand his frustration, and I get that, But I agree with Greg in one regard. This is. This is entertainment. This is not politics. I differ a little bit on the slavery thing.
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Jesse Watters
You want to fight?
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Harold Ford Jr.
He would win, and you'd be.
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Jesse Watters
No, that's what I'm saying. I'd be Harold's slave for a year.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I don't want you to be a. Must say, I like you as my friend. Slavery was our original sin. And we. 250 years, we celebrate our great country. We can celebrate that. We overcame it, and we continue.
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Jesse Watters
We fought.
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Harold Ford Jr.
We continue to find ways to make our country more perfect. So I wish. Mr. President, if you give me. I can't. What did you say the tickets were to this dog on fight?
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Jesse Watters
Like a million.
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Ainsley Earhardt
I'm saying 1.5 million for a VIP ticket, but 1200 seats are going to active military, so that's nice.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Well, if I got invited, I might consider going.
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Jesse Watters
What if we reached out to Trump and we did like, a. Some, like, little celebrity pre bouts? You and me, Jesse and Kilme.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Pre bouts.
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Jesse Watters
Come on. You know, Tommy undercard for the big fight. Trump would definitely do it.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Jesse, he said. Trump said this could be permanent. He might just keep up the Octagon forever.
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Greg Gutfeld
I have a feeling he's saying that to piss off the left, because I don't know if this really qualifies as an architectural marvel, but I'm gonna look forward to the fight. I do know that Trump has been hosting fights at his hotels for years. And guess who was there? Sharpton. With Don King and Donald. And they. And they promoted the fights together.
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Harold Ford Jr.
And the late Reverend Jesse Jackson.
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Greg Gutfeld
And the late Reverend Jesse Jackson. That's right. So there's nothing racist about. There's not even a lot of blacks on the card.
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Ainsley Earhardt
All right.
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Greg Gutfeld
It's mostly Brazilians.
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Ainsley Earhardt
That's a great point. The fastest I counted is up next.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Welcome back. The New York Post reports that Victoria's Secret stock is surging as it brings sexy back after a doomed attempt to go woke. A strong earnings report showing a 15% sales increase in the first quarter drove the company's stock up 47%. Ainsley, is this something that the country should be happy about? And if we are, why you go
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Ainsley Earhardt
woke, you go broke. Why mess with something that's working? They had, like it or not, for better or for worse, they had a great business model. It was so successful. Everyone talked about that angel show. It worked for them. They were making a lot of money, and then they change everything. And nobody, Nobody's interested anymore. So they just should have learned from Bud Light.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Are you contributing at all, Jesse, to the stock going up here about
- [35:27]
Greg Gutfeld
Victoria's Secret for Christmas? And she just wore it the other day, and I was pleasantly surprised.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You need permission to talk after this.
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Greg Gutfeld
I'm just shocked that the hermaphrodites and the fat girls weren't selling lingerie as effectively as the supermodels. You know, some things just. You really, really doesn't make sense to me, Harold. But I'm glad they straightened it out.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Martha, do you have thoughts on this?
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Martha MacCallum
I don't know. The stores got really messy. Like, I remember it used to be sort of appealing. Like, you're like, oh, that's pretty. That's pretty. But then they just kind of got mall messy, and I didn't go anymore. And so, you know, I don't know, maybe they're bringing sexy back and maybe the business can turn around. But clearly, you know, going woke did not help them. These girls obviously look great in their lingerie. That's all I have to say about that.
- [36:20]
Harold Ford Jr.
You seem to have some thoughts about this.
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Martha MacCallum
Greg, please tell.
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Jesse Watters
You know, I don't know what Victoria's Secret is, but it shouldn't be that she has a penis. So I want you to. I want people to remember that Victoria's Secret, they didn't change their product. It wasn't like Coke became New Coke. Instead, they demanded that the consumer change. It was still lingerie, but if you didn't applaud the male models and the obese catwalkers, there was something wrong with you. You were the one that had to change. So they were putting the. They were putting, I guess, their corporate virtue signal before the customer. They were willing to shed you in order to score a few social commentary points. So I don't even think they deserve any accolades for this. I think they're probably a dead brand.
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Greg Gutfeld
Well, the stock's up quite a bit, so I Don't think they're dead quite just yet.
- [37:14]
Jesse Watters
Well, give it time.
- [37:15]
Greg Gutfeld
I'll keep buying. Don't worry, I'll keep the stock alive.
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Jesse Watters
There you go.
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Martha MacCallum
A big chunk of it.
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Jesse Watters
What are you wearing right now, by the way?
- [37:20]
Greg Gutfeld
You should see my Nazi tent too.
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Martha MacCallum
You didn't really buy it for Emma.
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Harold Ford Jr.
One more thing is up next.
- [37:28]
Greg Gutfeld
A lot of maxing and relaxing.
- [37:30]
Jesse Watters
Come on, baby girl, give a play, get some action.
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Greg Gutfeld
I'm asking.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Time for one more thing.
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Martha MacCallum
Great.
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Jesse Watters
Thanks, Martha. So tonight we got a great show. Deborah Leia, Joe Mackey, Bobby Kelly, Tom Salou. Wonderful. 10pm let's do this. Greg's Perverted Animal News. Ainsley, I want you to cover your eyes. We need to roll this. What kind of sickness is this? An owl with a snake somehow inserted somewhere in the owl's body. Do you know that owls cannot sit cross legged, so they have to squat on their hocks with their legs tucked under them, giving ample room for this snake to sneak right in. Did you know, Ainsley, that snakes have two penises? That is two more than Jesse. Snakes only use one penis at a time, which makes sense. That's a lot of brain power. Imagine trying to use two at once. It makes no sense. They seem to be enjoying themselves. Even though it's a sin against God and man what they're doing. I say you go, girl. It's pride month. Get out there, shake your thing, owl. Two penises, you're saying two penises for the price of one.
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Greg Gutfeld
Oh, God, Jesse, I just can't wrap my head around having two penises.
- [38:53]
Jesse Watters
Well, thank God you're not wrapping anything.
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Greg Gutfeld
All right, tonight, Jesse wears Prime Time. Johnny was in Maine to talk. Platner.
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Jesse Watters
Did you hear that Graham Platner has a tattoo? I do like tattoos. Do you like Nazi tattoos? No. He has a Nazi tattoo.
- [39:09]
Greg Gutfeld
What?
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Ainsley Earhardt
Where?
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Jesse Watters
On his nipple.
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Martha MacCallum
No.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yes. That is tonight at 8 o'. Clock.
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Martha MacCallum
Excellent, Ainsley.
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Ainsley Earhardt
So I have a book out now. It's called America. I'm so glad you were born and thank y' all so much for supporting it.
- [39:24]
Harold Ford Jr.
You're here.
- [39:25]
Ainsley Earhardt
It's doing really well and I thank everyone out there who is watching and is buying this. So we did the book a few years ago. I'm so glad you'd were born because my mom said that on our birthdays and so now I say that when all of our friends or my daughter is celebrating her birthday and the publisher said, make a birthday book for America. So I think this is the first or the only one I've heard of the children's book. If you want to teach your kids all about America, what makes America great, why we love it, and why we're so glad it was born, you can purchase it at Amazon or wherever you buy your books.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Congratulations.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Thanks for letting me talk about it.
- [39:57]
Harold Ford Jr.
We won the first game last night. Let's go Knicks. Go Knicks, go.
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Martha MacCallum
Go Knicks, go.
- [40:01]
Jesse Watters
Woohoo.
- [40:02]
Martha MacCallum
Yay. That's it.
- [40:04]
Greg Gutfeld
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- [40:08]
Jesse Watters
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