NATO On Notice

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five — "NATO On Notice"

FOX News Podcasts | March 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode unpacks several hot-button topics including President Trump’s fiery approach to NATO, the aftermath of U.S.-Israeli military action against Iran, an intense debate on voter ID laws, Texas politics featuring Democrat James Talarico, the culture clash over body positivity, and even a lighthearted chat about the etiquette of the “Irish Goodbye.” True to its style, "The Five" mixes partisan banter, sharp analysis, and offbeat humor while highlighting divisions in American and international politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump, NATO, and the Iran Conflict

Timestamps: 01:03–10:59

• Trump’s Approach to NATO
  Greg Gutfeld opens with Trump’s frustration at NATO’s refusal to support U.S. operations securing the Strait of Hormuz. Trump is quoted emphasizing U.S. independence and criticizing NATO’s lack of tangible support.

  “We don't need any help actually. In fact we just put out a notice...very important that we take out the nuclear threat from Iran. And we've done that very strongly, very powerfully. So everyone agrees with us, but they don't want to help.”
  — Donald Trump (01:35)

• Assassination of Iranian Officials
  Greg and the panel discuss breaking news: Israeli and U.S. strikes kill top Iranian officials, boasting about U.S. and Israeli capabilities.

  “The IDF confirming that a top Iranian official who was openly taunting America just days ago got killed in an overnight strike.”
  — Greg Gutfeld (02:10)

  “It's an evil group.”
  — Donald Trump (02:21)

• Who Did Trump Speak to?
  Trump claims a former President confided regrets about not acting against Iran. Gutfeld and the panel play guessing games, but Trump remains coy.

  “I don't want to say because Barack Obama, a member of a party. A member of a party, and they have Trump derangement syndrome. But it's somebody that happens to like me.”
  — Donald Trump (02:59)

• NATO's Rebuff and U.S. Strategy
  Joey Jones supports a restrained approach — not “bombing NATO” but focusing military resources on true threats. He highlights a need for allied assistance, particularly with countermine operations, given U.S. capability gaps.

  “...as an America first friendly person, I don't blame NATO for not wanting to get involved. That doesn't bother me. I also don't blame our president...but the problem is that little bit of help we need, we actually truly need.”
  — Joey Jones (03:34)

• Media Portrayal vs. Military Reality
  Dana Perino and Emily Compagno cite Al Jazeera’s unusual admission that the war is going much better for the U.S./Israel than critics claim. They emphasize systematic degradation of Iranian military capacity, and the intelligence edge of Western forces.

  “Militarily, looks like things going very well. Like when you wake up in the morning, you find out, oh, the next one's gone, and the next one...so Israel and the United States have exquisite intelligence inside the country.”
  — Dana Perino (04:51)

• Long-Term Uncertainty
  Jessica Tarlov challenges the optimism, questioning if victories will be lasting. She points to Iran’s ability to rebuild and warns about asymmetric warfare that can persist long after current battles.

  “What happens in terms of the Iranians rebuilding their infrastructure, their missile and drone infrastructure?...The facts on the ground are pretty good...but what happens there in terms of oil, which is still their biggest asset?...”
  — Jessica Tarlov (09:21)

  Joey Jones responds by noting that “our gas prices go up, their power goes out. Other people are going to have to be concerned about this.” (11:02)

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2. Voter ID and the SAVE Act Debate

Timestamps: 13:26–24:39

• The Partisan Divide
  Emily Compagno recaps the Senate split over the SAVE Act and the Democratic framing of voter ID as “Jim Crow 2.0” voter suppression, despite public support for ID requirements.

  “Right now, his party is throwing a fit over an issue that the majority of Americans already agree on...”
  — Emily Compagno (13:26)

  Chuck Schumer’s soundbite reinforces Dem resistance:

  “MAGG Republicans want to bog down the Senate over a debate on voter suppression...The SAVE act is not a voter ID bill. It is in every sense a voter suppression bill...”
  — Chuck Schumer (13:59)

• Republican Position
  Gutfeld argues that opposition to photo ID is opportunistic and accuses Democrats of being on the “wrong side” of every issue.

  “...once you move to the, once you moved out, somebody else moved in and they don't know what to do, so they keep choosing the wrong side. To this day, the Dems can't bring forth one person who's being suppressed because everybody...has an ID, a photo ID of some kind.”
  — Greg Gutfeld (15:00)

• Practical vs. Political
  Dana Perino urges Republicans to “land the plane” and move on, noting that most Americans (and even Western states) favor some form of ID — "Republicans own this issue, won this issue... pin the tail on the donkey, own the issue and move on..." (16:41)

• Democratic Counterarguments
  Jessica Tarlov attempts to highlight real-life barriers to strict proof-of-citizenship requirements (passport, birth certificate)—reminding that not all IDs are equally accessible.

  "It was a voter ID bill, I think you could get a lot of Democrats...but when you talk about proof of citizenship, that comes one of two ways...passport, which only 50% of Americans have, it costs $165..."
  — Jessica Tarlov (20:59)

• Skepticism and Bureaucracy
  The panel questions whether such barriers are truly suppressive, with Gutfeld remaining unconvinced:

  “You guys have never produced. You spent years talking about a person who could not get an id.”
  — Greg Gutfeld (24:00)

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3. Texas Senate Race — James Talarico and Progressive Branding

Timestamps: 25:55–34:14

• Talarico Under Scrutiny
  Joey Jones and Greg Gutfeld criticize Talarico for allegedly extreme and “woke” stances, focusing on past statements about race, gender, and immigration.

  "...man who's on the record saying that his white skin gives him immunity against the virus of racism and that white men are terrorists and illegals are just undocumented Americans.”
  — Joey Jones (25:55)

• Jessica Tarlov's Interview Perspective
  Tarlov defends Talarico, arguing Republicans are using out-of-context clips and that he's being painted unfairly as a radical.

  “He had a line...they care about pronouns or they care about prices...you can be pro immigrant and also pro security...”
  — Jessica Tarlov (27:04)

• Media, Makeovers, and “Belief Division”
  Gutfeld paints Talarico as intolerant — someone for whom “belief is more important than behavior.”

  “The problem with Talarico, and I'm surprised that, Jessica, you don't see this...if you don't believe as he does, you are evil...”
  — Greg Gutfeld (29:23)

• Packaging vs. Substance
  Emily Compagno likens Talarico to “the goblin version of Pete Buttigieg,” critiquing what she sees as platitudes and lack of substance for real-world governance.

  “Everything he says is devoid of substance and the packaging around it is things like love your neighbor no matter what...”
  — Emily Compagno (32:27)

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4. Body Positivity vs. Medical Science

Timestamps: 35:09–37:58

• Jillian Michaels vs. Body Positivity Movement
  Dana Perino introduces Michaels’ viral debate: “Obesity is not healthy, and pretending it is puts lives at risk.”

  • Gutfeld is characteristically blunt:

    “Body positivity activist is eight syllables for fat. It’s always been a destructive movement when you base your identity on victimhood and a flaw or whatever...”
    — Greg Gutfeld (35:45)

  • Compagno argues the movement’s original intent is distorted:

    “...you are healthy. You just might not be thin. And now it's been distorted to be like, anything goes. Even endangering your heart, your life, and all of your loved ones who don't want to see you die...”
    — Emily Compagno (36:39)

  • Tarlov adds personal anecdotes about medical terminology and the reality of “geriatric pregnancies.” The panel agrees the factual link between obesity and health cannot be ignored, even if language is contentious.

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5. The "Irish Goodbye": Polite or Rude?

Timestamps: 38:55–40:44

• Dana, Joey, and Emily all weigh in on the debated social custom of leaving events without saying goodbye.
  • Dana contends it’s “a gem” given busy lives.
  • Joey prefers not to attend at all: “The only thing better than Irish goodbye is an Irish hello where you just don't go ever at all.” (39:34)
  • Emily believes context matters — it’s rude at intimate gatherings, acceptable at big work events.
• Emily also highlights concerns about the potentially problematic origins of the term.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The previous leaders kicked the can down the road.”
  — Greg Gutfeld (09:02)

• “All those Trump supporters that were demonized, who you knew were good people...It didn’t matter what their behavior was like. It was that their belief was evil. This is what happens with progressives.”
  — Greg Gutfeld (29:23)

• “Happy to eat this one.”
  — Jessica Tarlov, about Dems owning the voter ID issue (18:30)

• “Body positivity activist is eight syllables for fat. … It positions you outside the norm…you get angry and alienated.”
  — Greg Gutfeld (35:45)

• “The only thing better than Irish goodbye is an Irish hello where you just don't go ever at all.”
  — Joey Jones (39:34)

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Additional Segments (Light & Social)

• One More Thing: The panel delivers bits of pop culture, charity plugs (supporting the troops), and banter about tours, pets, and viral videos.
  (Timestamps: 41:32–43:41)

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Overall Tone

• Lively, combative, and sardonic: The hosts and guests spar but mix in humor and personal anecdotes.
• Heavily partisan: Clear ideological lines are drawn, particularly around national security, voting rights, and progressive social issues.

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Summary Table

| Topic | Speakers/Highlights | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Trump v. NATO, Iran conflict | Trump, Gutfeld, Jones, Perino, Tarlov, Compagno | 01:03–10:59 | | Voter ID/SAVE Act debate | Compagno, Schumer (clip), Gutfeld, Perino, Jones, Tarlov | 13:26–24:39 | | James Talarico & Texas politics | Jones, Tarlov, Gutfeld, Perino, Compagno | 25:55–34:14 | | Body Positivity debate | Perino, Gutfeld, Compagno, Tarlov, Jones | 35:09–37:58 | | “Irish Goodbye” etiquette | Perino, Jones, Compagno, Tarlov, Gutfeld | 38:55–40:44 |

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This summary highlights major points, controversies, and the punchy, often irreverent style characteristic of "The Five."

Transcript

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hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld along with Emily Compagno, Jessica Tarlovsky, Joey Jones and she uses a four leaf clover as an umbrella. Dana Perino, the FIVE. Alert President Trump going nuclear on NATO, metaphorically speaking, after they rebuffed his request to send some warships and secure the Strait of Hormuz. But he didn't need their stinking help anyways.

[Donald Trump]

We don't need any help actually. In fact we just put out a notice I was watching over the last couple of weeks and all of our NATO allies were very much in favor of what we did. They thought it was very important. We were just discussing it actually, very important that we take out the nuclear threat from Iran. And we've done that very strongly, very powerfully. So everyone agrees with us, but they don't want to help. And we, you know, we as the United States have to remember that because we think it's pretty shocking. I think NATO is making a very foolish mistake.

[Greg Gutfeld]

The IDF confirming that a top Iranian official who was openly taunting America just days ago got killed in an overnight strike. The President lamenting that everything's gone, everything

[Donald Trump]

is gone, their leaders are gone. I guess one of the top person was, they say a lot of people say their actual top was killed yesterday along with somebody else that who was responsible for the killing. The man that was responsible for the killing of 32,000 people over the last two weeks. He was in charge of the killing of protesters. It's an evil group.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Meanwhile, President Trump has Washington playing a guessing game after claiming that a former American president told him he wished he had taken action against Iran while he was in office. Was it George W. Bush?

[Donald Trump]

No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Was it Bill Clinton?

[Donald Trump]

I don't want to say. I don't want to say because Barack Obama, a member of a party. A member of a party, and they have Trump derangement syndrome. But it's somebody that happens to like me.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, jj, NATO rebuffs Trump. Should we bomb NATO?

[Joey Jones]

No, probably not. I'd like to hang on to our bombs for people who could actually hurt us.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Joey Jones]

Who have militaries and know how to use them.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Why do you think they did it so well?

[Joey Jones]

I don't necessarily listen, as an America first friendly person, I don't blame NATO for not wanting to get involved. That doesn't bother me. I also don't blame our president for telling him, hey, we've had your back for a long time. Look at all the money and resources we spent in Ukraine. We need a little bit of help right now. But the problem is that little bit of help we need, we actually truly need. We don't have a way right now as it sits, and I'm not going to get into the specifics, we don't have a great capability to search for and defeat the mines. If the mines are there, and there's conflicting reporting on that, when you hear that anything passes through, then you know there's at least a navigable waterway, even if there are mines there. We kind of. In January, we got rid of the boats that could do countermine, and the ones that we're trying to bring over are unproven, and there's a lot of concerns about them. So the idea would be some of these countries that have this capability, this is the only thing we need from you. Why don't you do it?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Excellent answer. You know, Dana, that obviously the Iranian military is in a shambles. The war is in, what, how many days? 14 days. 19 days is actually going great. You know, it doesn't sound that way because the media prefers to make it sound like it's a disaster because that will help with the midterms.

[Dana Perino]

Well, maybe I don't even know if they think that far ahead.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They just think like they're communist, you know?

[Dana Perino]

Okay. Okay. So a couple of things on that. Militarily, looks like things going very well. Like when you wake up in the morning, you find out, oh, the next one's gone, and the next one Looks like Lara Johnney was a terrible person. And one of the people under ISI understand it, who ordered the killing of over 30,000 people in January alone. Then you had the head of the Baji force also killed at the same time. And there was a report that 300 of his people were also killed. So Israel and the United States have exquisite intelligence inside the country. And so you can imagine that they feel rattled. However, there is still support for the regime and you see that when they come out into the squares. I understand why the new ayatollah, if he is actually alive, isn't coming out because look what happened to him. The other thing is, when you look at the state run media of Al Jazeera, there was an op ed that ran today, everybody was pointing to it because it comes out of Qatar. There's this piece that basically is like, militarily, this thing's going very, very well. And so if they are saying it, then you have to maybe take a, pay attention to it. And also because it is state run media. So they're not doing without that, without the blessing of the higher ups who are saying you should do that on NATO. This is what I have, this is what I would say. Every country, including our own, has domestic political issues at home that they have to deal with. What are they dealing with in Europe? Economies are flat and they have an immigration problem. And their far left is very anti Israel.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Sounds like us. But we still help them.

[Dana Perino]

Well, okay, but this is what I would do. President Trump's dealmaker, I would say no tariffs for us if we come in, no more tariffs. Right? And he says yes. And then they could take it back to their constituents and say, we're going to go, we're going to help make sure that the oil prices stay down. We got a better deal for our country going forward when it comes to tariffs.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, that's what I would do. You know, Emily, the war is going so good that even Al Jazeera is calling it a triumph. And that's kind of like, kind of impressive. They can't even blame the Jews.

[Emily Compagno]

Yeah, I thought that that op ed was phenomenal because for someone like me, who doesn't have an entire career and profession based around war and conflict, it made it really simple, right? Mahanad Saloon saying, look, when you look at this, this is a measured voice saying, you are watching the phases of a systematic degradation happening. And we see the ballistic missile arsenal, nuclear infrastructure, air defenses, Navy and the proxy command architecture. It's not one of us failure. All of those things Being degraded. It's one of systematic, phased degradation of a threat that previous administrations allowed to grow for four decades. And I think what we're seeing is a lot of fluff in that narrative. But when you just smooth away the feathers, you see in these measured voices expectation that things are proceeding exactly as either hoped or planned for which both of which benefit the American people. So to that end, I think the inheritance that a lot of citizens accept and clearly the Democrat Party of, well, it's quiet right now. Well, the volcano is latent. Well, they don't have the nuclear arms yet. So it's nothing to see here. We've seen and I think have been subjected to a relay race of 4 and 8 year increments where at the end of the day, the threat was not the same the entire time it was growing. We were looking the other way as an administration while the threat was allowed to foster and somehow that became acceptable. And under whose watch then were they playing the Russian roulette of it actually coming to fruition? Right. Sarah Adams has pointed out that in just the Last few months, 3,000 hardened ISIS fighters were released out of Syrian detention. Where are they all going? Exactly where they are supposed to. They are patient, they plan, and our homeland is still their target. So it's not about accepting a narrative of someone running for office right now. It's accepting the concept that this is our home and our readiness and our ability to protect it is what's important.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Excellent point. I think I'm going to coin a phrase here and say that the previous leaders kicked the can down the road.

[Dana Perino]

That's interesting. That's an interesting saying.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Thank you.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Brilliant.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Came up with it. So, Jessica, President Trump claims he talked to a former president who said that he wished he had done what Trump did. Do you have any insight into who he could have talked to?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Evidence would suggest, since all of the living former presidents released statements or told news outlets that it wasn't them that 45 was talking to 47 about how well he was doing. Nailed it. So I was, I wasn't on yesterday, so the weekend and yesterday to kind of absorb the lazy Susan of remarks that the president has been making about this conflict. You know, everything from we already wanted is actually done. We'll keep going. Maybe it will stop. I want Naito. I don't need Naito. He was funny about France, though, when he said that they were an 8 out of 10. Well, it is France in terms of the op ed, which I found really interesting. I think the underlying question or the extension Question is, what is the long term plan here? So the facts on the ground are pretty good about how many missiles they're firing, going from, what was it, 900 a day down to 10 to 14. But what happens in terms of the Iranians rebuilding their infrastructure, their missile and drone infrastructure? Because you remember Operation Midnight Hammer, which was only, you know, seven months ago. We said total obliteration there and then we were already having conversations about the Iranians ramping back up after that. So what happens there in terms of oil, which is still their biggest asset? They're getting out a million barrels a day that is still happening, basically unencumbered. Joey's totally right about the mines issue. Also. We will have to put boots on the ground to accomplish this, whether they're, you know, just on the Iranian coastline or have to do more than that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You agree with that, Joey?

[Joey Jones]

No, listen, this is. If I can jump in real quick. My concern is what we're worried about now are tools and weapons that can be implemented by four or five guys that can drive around in a truck. Well, that's. That, that's an insurgency. Right? That's, that's my concern, man. Packable rockets and drones. The type of terrorism, even on the Strait of Hormuz, that that could last a while and we could be chasing our tail around a little bit, but I don't think that's what we're going to end up doing. And I think that, I mean, we can make oil. We are, we can, we can pump oil. We don't have. Our gas prices go up, their power goes out. Other people are going to have to be concerned about this.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, it is. There's a lot which we talked about last week that goes through the Strait of Oil, hormones. We talked about the fertilizer problem, we talked about compressed gas problems.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Having that right now.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You are, I can see it all over your face when to say. And for the proxy forces, they may be beaten back right now, but once we're out of there in two to three weeks, which was the timeline they gave, how do we know that they don't just rise up again and they get stronger? We're not beating their ideology. And then if regime.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Let's just give up.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I didn't say that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Let's just give. No, but that's what funny.

[Jessica Tarlov]

My joke was 45.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I thought it was okay. Yeah, I wish I'd come up with that then ceasefire.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I retire. I got good stuff for the rest of the show.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, we got to move on. So exciting. Coming up Next. Why can't the Democrats see they're on the wrong side of voter id? It rhymes.

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[Donald Trump]

Did you just look and see?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Did you guys see that?

[Donald Trump]

Thank you.

[Emily Compagno]

Well, showing a little ID to vote didn't seem like a big deal to President Obama back in 2012, but right now, his party is throwing a fit over an issue that the majority of Americans already agree on. The Senate is currently debating the SAVE act after 51 Republicans and zero Democrats voted to advance the bill that would codify voter ID into law. But you already know the Democrats playbook. Chuck Schumer's staff was literally rolling out a Jim Crow 2.0 poster as he and other Democrats cried foul.

[Chuck Schumer]

MAGA Republicans want to bog down the Senate over a debate on voter suppression. Democrats are ready. We're ready to be here all day, all night. The SAVE act is not a voter ID bill. It is in every sense a voter suppression bill. Our objection as Democrats is not to a photo id. You'd have to define it clearly and properly and easily, but not to a photo ID when you show up to vote.

[Joey Jones]

The United States Constitution also makes clear that only citizens can vote.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'd ask our Republican colleagues, why aren't they focused on the Save America Money act right now?

[Emily Compagno]

All right, everyone's all fired up. Okay, Greg, go ahead.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I love seeing President Obama show his id. If you noticed, it wasn't a birth certificate. My sources say it was a Kenyan library card from 1970. I mean, I'm just raising questions. I love Hakeem Jeffries saying, you know, you don't need voter ID because the Constitution makes non citizens voting illegal. I don't think you need then policing for anything. I mean, we certainly don't need laws against discrimination at work anymore because we already know it's illegal. We don't need the police for shoplifting or anything because we know it's illegal. In fact, just by knowing something's illegal, that stops all crime. Did you know that? Did you know that? Just tell your criminal that. Okay. I don't really believe there's any opposition to this idea. If there was some kind of bizarre opportunity For Democrats where they could flip the flip sides, meaning that the Republicans would be against voter ID and they would be for it. They would switch in a heartbeat if they could act. In fact, if Dems could snap their fingers and flip the side on every major issue, trans crime, border war, they would, because they're on the wrong side of everything. And it's really hard to get back over because that side's been taken. You know, once you move to the, once you moved out, somebody else moved in and they don't know what to do, so they keep choosing the wrong side. To this day, the Dems can't bring forth one person who's being suppressed because everybody who wants to vote or who can vote or is here has an id, a photo ID of some kind. So obviously when you're talking about suppression, you're the racist cuz you believe minorities are just too stupid to figure it out.

[Emily Compagno]

What I don't understand, Dana, is it seems like it's such a red rover game. They're lockstep and they're not moving. But. But we know that 85% of independents are in favor of this concept. So for anyone that wants to either enlarge the party or woo independent voters, they're not doing a good job of it.

[Dana Perino]

So I agree with everything Greg said about just. Well, I was just thinking he could never shovel snow for mom. Donnie.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, that's true.

[Dana Perino]

I mean, you have to have five different forms of id. And if you just want to shovel, if you just want to pitch in. Yes, you got to bring your IDs. Five of them. I would say this about the Republicans. They need to be for what's going to happen. There is too much of always telling the base that something is going to happen that is not going to happen over. Promising to the base gets you back in the cul de sac of you can't get anything done. And right now, President Trump has way too many planes in the air that he needs to get landed. And I know this is a priority for him, but he has won the issue. If he can't get the Democrats to come on board, fine, let them wallow in it, get in, have this vote, get out, move on, pin the tail on the donkey, own the issue and move on to the other things that you want to do because there is. The time is moving now. There's something just happened I just found out about. So part of the thing is each state handles it the way that they want to. A lot of western states, like Utah, for example, really like mail in voting, they love it. And that's a reliably Republican state. They want to keep their mail in voting. What the SAVE act would do would say no. Except just now the White House apparently has agreed to an amendment that would allow hardship exemption for states that want to continue to do that. That might help on the issue to try to get it there. But I wouldn't spend too much time in this cul de sac when there are so many other things to do because Republicans own this issue, won this issue and all the bad stuff, all the things that Greg was talking about, the Democrats own that and they just make them eat that every day until the midterms. Eat it, Eat it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Happy to eat this one.

[Joey Jones]

Listen, two years ago it was racist to want a photo id and President Trump has gotten at least the Democrat leadership all the way to the point they're like, you know, agreeing with the ID because now they are disagreeing with the registration point. This prove you're a citizen. I mean that's how far to the right Democrats have come on this issue. You can go down a list of issues. The border is another place. I guess apparently now they're for fiscal responsibility. If you heard was that Klobuchar that said that save America money. And so like him, love him, hate him. President Trump, one thing he does is he does bring both parties to the middle on a lot of issues. And it's because he's a populist and that likens itself to what people call common sense. And maybe those people aren't constitutional scholars and haven't thought of the depths of each issue. What they need to do is go through and all of these quasi legitimate hurdles that Democrats are complaining about offer a solution that keeps the idea that you prove your citizenship and show an ID to vote. If they can do that, and I don't know they can, but if they can do that, then you're daring Democrats to be against it for no other reason than they think they'll lose voters. And, and why do you think you're going to lose voters if non citizens can vote or if people can fill out ballots and vote for other people? And that is the allegation and that's why Republicans are incredibly passionate about it. I might be the only one here that grew up like really far from middle class, maybe not grew up poor, had a great life, had food on the table. We also had our birth certificates. So I do not buy the argument whatsoever that tens of millions of Americans are in a place that they don't have the resources or intellect to get the documentation to go prove their citizens. And if it's simply that it's an inconvenience, I really could care less. I don't care if it's an inconvenience. Do it. Enact the fact that you're a citizen, be a part of the system, have the inconvenience, and be a part of picking our next leader like, you know, was your civic responsibility.

[Emily Compagno]

So, Jessica, if you were a Democratic congressperson right now and you heard all of these arguments, beautiful arguments and beautiful arguments, and you know, a voter was in front of the independent, said, yeah, all of these. And. And this is how I feel. What. What's the persuasive argument that's different than that? What would be the rebuttal that any congressperson or senator could offer that would. That would defend the position of not being for this?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, it's very easy to be against the Save America Act. Lisa Murkowski and Thom Tillis are against the Save America Act. And it sounds like to some degree Joey Jones actually is in the way that it's being represented right now. And Dana is right that Republicans should take what I would say a quasi w. I guess what they'll get out of this win when they have a vote on it and move on to other things because this thing is absolutely dead in the water. And Joey was the only one who actually used the correct term. And talking about how this was a proof of citizenship bill, not a voter ID bill. It was a voter ID bill. I think you could get a lot of Democrats to talk to you about it. Jim Clyburn has been out there saying he's for it. But when you talk about proof of citizenship, that comes one of two ways. So first, a passport, which only 50% of Americans have, it costs $165 to get a passport, and it's a majority of Democrats who have it, not Republicans. Then you go to the birth certificate. I'm glad you had them in your house. I can say from my own experience, and I live very close to my mother. When I went to get my real id, I'm someone who has two middle names. I haven't even changed my last name. When I got married, I had to go back. I had to leave two times and come back to have the right identification to be able to get my real id, because some of my ID said Jessica Brooke Tarlov, some said Jessica Brooke Roberts Tarlov, some just said Jessica Tarlov, and that wasn't good enough.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's a great story.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, It's a real experience. That's cute.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I know, but the point is, that's not. And I didn't interrupt the problem with bureaucracy. Fine runs that.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So doge it. But also doge this bill. There is an opportunity for Democrats to get out there and to own this in their own way. To say this is what a real voter ID bill should look like, where you accept a number of different kinds of IDs, where tribal IDs count, because the way that the Save America act is formulated, you need a tribal ID that actually has a date on it and majority of them don't. Then you say we're for automatic voter registration and that also that Election Day is a national holiday because you want to make it easier for people to vote, not harder.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Now you have voters.

[Jessica Tarlov]

There are some on. We've always had that idea. Again, why are you interrupting me? I let you because it's fun.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Because you act like. You act like somehow I act like

[Jessica Tarlov]

somebody that knows what the Save America act actually says and what it would require and who it would disenfranchise. Young people, old people, married people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's not disenfranchising anybody, really.

[Jessica Tarlov]

If you cannot get yourself registered to vote because you don't have a passport, give everyone $165, go door to door. You get 165, you get 165. Or if you change your name, you are in the adoption system, you're in foster care.

[Joey Jones]

If your 45, 47 joke was funny, that was hilarious.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That was legitimately very funny.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Anyway, we're all just too incapable of proving our citizenship.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You're. I can't wait till something like this actually happens and then you know people who struggle.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I actually do know people. Do you know somebody who doesn't have an id? Tell me about it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, I'm having passport.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You guys have never produced. You spent years talking about a person who could not get an id.

[Jessica Tarlov]

There is a passport and I've never met one. Yeah, and I would imagine I've never met one.

[Dana Perino]

How many people in your life.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Why should I believe this now?

[Dana Perino]

But how many people in your life don't have a passport?

[Jessica Tarlov]

In my life, as an upper middle class person.

[Dana Perino]

Your life.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Right.

[Dana Perino]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't even know.

[Dana Perino]

Joey grew up in a situation where he is saying that, you know, even if you don't know everybody that has everybody in your world doesn't have a passport, you can still figure out a way to get an id.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

How? How can you figure out.

[Greg Gutfeld]

How can you figure it out? This world is so difficult.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right, guys, again, door to door in South Carolina. All the money voting went up in

[Dana Perino]

South Carolina for birth certificates.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I've got four IDs and only two of them are fake.

[Emily Compagno]

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[Dana Perino]

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[Joey Jones]

Yeah, the Democrats 30 year dream of turning a Texas Senate seat baby blue is all riding whether Texans believe this guy James Talarico is a moderate Democrat, a man who's on the record saying that his white skin gives him immunity against the virus of racism and that white men are terrorists and illegals are just undocumented Americans. Our very own Jessica Tarlov asked him about his woke record, but he thinks he's just being taken out of context.

[James Talarico]

Listen, they're going to throw everything they've got at us. They're going to dig up all kinds of, you know, old statements, take them out of context and try to paint them in the worst possible light because this is the only playbook they have in 2026. I, of course, looking back at some of these old statements from years ago would maybe word them differently or communicate them differently, but the values that I hold are still the same.

[Joey Jones]

Jessica, I appreciate the fact you weren't sitting there nodding in agreement with everything you said. I appreciate that very much.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You didn't see the whole end.

[Joey Jones]

I'll let you go first. What is your reaction to James Talarico?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I thought he was great. I mean, it was a whole 45 minute interview. That's obviously just a small piece of it, but a piece that I cared about a lot as somebody that is going to have to talk to you guys about this throughout the election season. And I think the overarching point about what is about to go on from now until November is really what people are concerned about and what voters are paying attention to. And he had a line that he used the other night if they care about pronouns or they care about prices. And he explained some of them, like people have been using a clip that's been cut and they don't let him finish in it where he says, you know, I think that immigration should be run like a front porch. There's a welcome map, but also a lock on your door so you can be pro immigrant and also pro security. You know, he said, I wouldn't have phrased some of these things in the same way, but I think that you're gonna have a very hard time making the case that this guy is just a wackadoodle when you look at his policies. He's not straight Medicare for All guy. Again, he's talking about immigration, that we need tough border security. And I would also add that as this is going on, so people are trying to frame him in this light. The primary on the Republican side, you have John Cornyn out today with an ad about Ken Paxton and his love shack. So it's Ken Paxton driving in a convertible with all of his various mistresses towards the place that he's going to bed them. And then the fact that John Cornyn represents the old guard. And this was one of the main points that Talarico was making. So Texas has been living under one party rule for decades and it has not gotten them anything good. They have higher poverty rates than the national average, higher uninsured rates. The average wage in Texas is lower than the national average as well. And John Cornyn is the summation of that problem. He was also elected when Talarico was in middle school. So if this is a change election, which they have been for the last several years, then I think that just focusing on something he wrote in 2020 is not going to help the Republicans much.

[Joey Jones]

Greg James Talarico, maybe his best chance is what she just pointed out, the unpopularity of whoever's running on the GOP side. But you know, a friend told me one time about Rick Perry, said, listen, you don't have to be great to be the governor of Texas. You just got to get out of the way.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I love that this guy Talarico, he's trying to make, he's going through a makeover and it's really easy to undergo a makeover because the media will do it for you that Republicans, you have to do it yourself. In fact, it's impossible to get a makeover as a Republican. You always got to make under. They make you look worse. But Talarico, you know, he says he's tired of the division. This is a guy who split the sexes into six boxes, right? This is a guy who's against division. And he created a space for trans who want abortions. I mean, how much more specific a space can you get? How many trans who want abortions are there? And I'm including the ones that are currently in prison. Seems to me for him, that may be more like an aim than a right. See the problem with Talarico, and I'm surprised that, Jessica, you don't see this, and maybe you do, but. But you don't want to. He's on your side. I can't read your mind, but his biggest division isn't in gender or politics. It's belief. You know, if you don't believe as he does, you are evil. You know, Christians and Jews, they divide by behavior. You can be a bad Christian, you could be a bad Jewish, but that doesn't happen with someone like Talarico. It doesn't matter if you're a good, decent person. If you believe in two sexes, you are evil. You know, think about all those Trump supporters that were demonized, who you knew were good people. Grandfathers, parents, just nice people who would help you fix a tire. Didn't matter what their behavior was like. It was that their belief was evil. This is what happens with progressives. This guy speaks a good game, but if he does not, he does not like your belief. It doesn't matter how good you are. He's as extreme as a radical Islamist because that's how they think as well. Because his values are not based on behavior. And that is something you have to understand when you listen to them. You can get lost in all that rhetoric. I've met different. My values are the same. That guy's bad news, and you're gonna find out, Dana.

[Dana Perino]

Well, Jessica gave him an off ramp, and he didn't take it right. So he could have said he's in front of a crowd and in front of the media who are going to accept whatever he says and say he's everything that we need in order to try to beat the Republicans in Texas. But he didn't say. Yeah, I shouldn't have said it that way. Yeah, it was in our fault. I was high on my own supply back in 2020. I should have said it that way. Instead, he's like, yeah, they're just taking me out of context. Maybe on the immigration one, I'll give you that one. But he's giving me Mayor Pete vibes. I'm getting Beta O' Rourke vibes. Trump won the state by 14 points. I agree the Republican primary is ugly. Hope it was probably unnecessary, but we

[Jessica Tarlov]

are where we are.

[Dana Perino]

But it's really hard to come up with 14 points. And he will do very well in Austin. He will do super well in San Francisco and Manhattan. But that is like fool's gold for Democrats.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm getting Ted Bundy vibes.

[Joey Jones]

Ooh, that would be interesting. Emily. The thing about him is he does this thing where he likes the Jesus splain. He likes to tell Texans what a real Christian is. And I feel like no matter where you are, anybody doing that just isn't a good feeling. It's not an attractive trait.

[Emily Compagno]

No. And I forced myself to watch that 14 and some change minute interview he did with Stephen Colbert online where he said, thank you Stephen for showing what Christianity should be. Thank you for showing about living out the teachings of Jesus to someone who calls members of the administration a five star douche hiding behind a flag he barely understands. Look, it's interesting we're so on the same wavelength because I had written here, but he's like the goblin version of Pete Buttigieg where he's going to take off the outer layer and you're just going to see a David Koresh because I see from him if you replaced every time he talked about his Baptist preacher granddad and replaced that with my commune elder, then all of his platitudes would make sense. When he uses phrases like we're going to take back Texas. I'm building something really special here with my 14,000 volunteers and people who come up to him and whisper I'm not a Democrat and things like that. Everything he says is devoid of substance and the packaging around it is things like love your neighbor no matter what, regardless of immigration. He's living in a fantasy land because the reality is we all pay taxes and those taxes mean that my roads are paved. That hopefully someone doesn't break into my home or mug me in the sidewalk, that the government works, meaning to fund itself and to legislate so that my kids can go to school and I can be a safe, productive member of society. He is such a child. But it's a terrifying child because it's one that grew up on a protected piece of land that never interacted with the real world. He grew up on the Love Israel cult in Washington or something frightening because everything about him is devoid of the real world. You are right that he is dangerous because the left has been framing him of voters are choosing faith. Right? They're framing him as an actual representative of a faith that isn't freakdom. So I worry for Texas, but I have faith in Texans.

[Joey Jones]

We started this segment, and I thought he was just kind of dopey. Now I know he's a goblin and a cult leader, so I'm definitely not for this dude. All right, coming up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Sounds pretty good to me.

[Joey Jones]

Talk about some heavyweight drama. Fitness guru Jillian Michaels just schooled some body positive activist.

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[Jessica Tarlov]

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[Dana Perino]

That's a great song, actually. Fit. No, I shouldn't say actually, it's just a great song. Okay. Fitness guru Jillian Michaels facing off against four body positivity activists who took offense to this. Obesity is not healthy, and pretending it is puts lives at risk. I'm going to do my best to not use the O word because I

[Jessica Tarlov]

find it pretty offensive.

[Dana Perino]

Overweight and obese is literally just having too much body fat. It has nothing to do with the quality of the person. Okay, she's great on all of this, but I sort of feel like body positivity is over. Am I wrong?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, Ozempic took care of this. It kind of deflates the whole idea of body positivity when the moment you got an easy solution, the whole movement deflated, much like Lizzo's gut. Body positivity activist is eight syllables for fat. It's always been a destructive movement when you base your identity on victimhood and a flaw or whatever. It also positions you outside the norm of just society, of communicating with other people because you get angry and alienated and vindictive. Because you say I'm being discriminated against because I'm fat. Oh, I demand a special seat on the plane at the amusement park. People don't want to be around you, not because you're fat, but because you're just annoying.

[Dana Perino]

And I don't think Jillian's not saying you have to do Ozempic. She's just saying, like, obesity is not healthy. That seems scientific.

[Greg Gutfeld]

How dare you?

[Emily Compagno]

Because these activists have distorted the origin of the body positivity was supposed to be. You are healthy. You just might not be thin. And now it's been distorted to be like, anything goes. Even endangering your heart, your life, and all of your loved ones who don't want to see you die. And. And also, the word obesity is a medical term that's like any pregnant lady over the age of, what, 35 who gets called a geriatric pregnancy. Exactly. It's like, I'm sorry, but it's medicine. Stop taking offense. Just have the baby. Just be quiet.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's not just medicine. It's when you met the guy. What are you supposed to do?

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, what are you. What are you supposed to do?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't know, but I had two geriatric pregnancies and the girls came out great. This show bothers me. The Jubilee show. Like, sometimes there are interesting interactions, but

[Dana Perino]

I've never seen it before.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, they do it a lot. There's been interesting political debates on it for sure, but this does feel like settled ground and. Yeah, like Rebel Wilson, Lizzo, Amy Schumer. Like, they've all gotten small.

[Dana Perino]

Joey.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They've all jumped on.

[Dana Perino]

Joey. You have not said anything to get yourself in trouble today. Would you like to start?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah. What's up with that, man?

[Joey Jones]

Yeah. You know, it is unhealthy to be fat. Yeah, but not everybody's fat. Some people just big boned. It's about can you carry yourself around and get stuff done without losing your breath? I think that's what's most important. Also, nobody wants that Jane Fonda thing going on. You know, you want to keep a little bit of meat on the bones.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, Jane Fonda looks incredible.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, but she's insane. Crazy lady.

[Dana Perino]

All right, coming up next is the Irish Goodbye. Actually good etiquette.

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[Joey Jones]

Write my name in the sand.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Happy St. Patrick's Day. A piece in the Wall Street Journal is defending the Irish Goodbye, arguing that leaving a party without saying goodbye may not be matters. It may not be bad. Manners. After all. Dana.

[Dana Perino]

Yes. I think that the Irish goodbye is a gem. People are very busy and you know, like, everybody's busy. So if you go to an event, if you're going to say yes, you need to know that you can go say hi, have a moment, one drink only at a work event. And then be like, bye. Because you know, you might have a morning show, you might have to get up. I think that it's acceptable. And then you send a little note to the next day. Love the best time. You were great. If you say you looked amazing, you never looked.

[Joey Jones]

I think it went. The only thing better than Irish goodbye is an Irish hello where you just don't go ever at all. And then the next day you're like, man, that was a great time. I'm sorry I didn't see you. That's what I did. I just don't.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Sorry I missed you.

[Dana Perino]

It's hard to miss.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Never.

[Joey Jones]

I'd rather be home.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That place was crowded. Emily, I feel like you are incapable of an Irish goodbye.

[Emily Compagno]

Totally. Okay, first of all, so you guys know how I am with greeting. Like, my pet peeve in the whole world is when someone enters the room and you don't like greet, like say hello and then say hello back, whatever. And then context totally matter. So I agree with you on the professional front. However, if you go to someone's house, like, nothing is worse when you're like, oh my gosh, like, wait, where's Dana? She has to be here for this story. And then you're like, wait, where's Dana? You know what I mean? But then also we're not supposed to say Irish goodbye because it is rooted in terribilism about like, what people like

[Joey Jones]

you or why don't go to things. I understand that. Right? Let me just like slide in, have, have a coke and leave.

[Emily Compagno]

I would of course love that.

[Dana Perino]

There's someone else I was gonna say, but I forget.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Whatever.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Greg.

[Emily Compagno]

What?

[Jessica Tarlov]

He just got two years back on his life. I think by stretching my blind leprechauns can do that.

[Dana Perino]

Maybe he'll be back for one more thing.

[Emily Compagno]

He should have said goodbye. It's terrible.

[Jessica Tarlov]

A long pee pee. Okay, one more thing is up next.

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[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, Danny, you go first.

[Dana Perino]

All right. One more thing. You forgot to say it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh. Omt.

[Dana Perino]

Okay. One month from today, Purple State book tour kicks off and many cities to be announced. But west point, Palm Beach, April 17. You can get tickets at danaperino books.com purplestate West Palm beach will be at the Mandel Public Library and then the Findlay Galleries and then Vero beach the next day at the Vero beach book. You have friends there. Can you send them?

[Joey Jones]

Absolutely.

[Dana Perino]

Because you know what? Real men read romantic comedies.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm two thirds through it.

[Joey Jones]

I'm only 3/4 of a man, so it doesn't count.

[Dana Perino]

Anyway, hope to see you there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, tonight we got a great show. Kat, Timp, Jamie Lissow, Hotep, Jesus and Tyrus. That's tonight. Let's do this. All right, let's roll the tape of actor Timothy Chalamet enjoying a post Oscar meal. He didn't win an Academy award. In fact, his movie won nothing. But still he went and had a gorgeous little nutritionist medley of treats. Actually, that's a. What is that, by the way? Is it a baby opossum at the Cincinnati Zoo? Isn't that adorable?

[Dana Perino]

A lot of stuff from Cincinnati, Jessica.

[Emily Compagno]

Like that.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Rescue dogs from pug Nation visit the Belmont senior living facility in Hollywood for a playdate. The seniors made homemade fleece blankets for the pugs as a special gift for visiting.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They fart like crazy pugs or old pewd dogs. Emily.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, I love it.

[Emily Compagno]

Guys. In honor of St. Patrick's Day, stream the St. Patrick episode of Martin Scorsese Presents the Saints, available now on fox nation. Enjoy foxnation.com it is incredible.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Joey, you got 10 seconds.

[Joey Jones]

All right. This guy put a shopping cart on his face in the middle of a supermarket and people thought it was really cool. What is not a Florida man?

[Greg Gutfeld]

No. Wow, look at that. You know, Brett Baer does that for

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