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Kayleigh McEnany
Hello everyone. I'm kayleigh mcenany along with jessica tarlow, jesse waters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. It's five o' clock in new york city and this is the five. Well, just moments ago, the White House announcing, quote, a new milestone, touting, listen to this, 4,000 criminal illegals removed from Minnesota. This includes violent killers, rapists, gang members and other public safety threats since the beginning of Operation Metro Surge. And now President Trump is laying out his next moves to stop the left wing agitators in Minnesota in a Super bowl interview to NBC.
Jesse Waters
Mr. President, speaking of Minneapolis, what did you learn?
Greg Gutfeld
I learned that maybe we can use a little bit of a softer touch, but you still have to be tough. These are criminal, we're dealing with really hard criminals.
Jesse Waters
But look, I've called the people, I've.
Greg Gutfeld
Called the governor, I've called the mayor, spoke to him, had great conversations with him. And then I see them ranting and raving out there literally as though a call wasn't made.
Kayleigh McEnany
Tom Homan is also laying down the law. He's pulling 700 immigration agents out of Minnesota, leaving about 2,000 there. And it's because city law enforcement is finally cooperating with local jails in order to get dangerous offenders deported. Now, as for a full pullback of agents, the border czar says that that depends on the resistance, the agitators. They must stop the illegal and threatening activities against ICE and its federal partners, like those ridiculous road checkpoints.
Greg Gutfeld
We will not draw down on personnel providing security and responding to hostile incidents until we see a change in what's happening with the lawlessness of the peeding and interfering and assaulting of ICE and border officers, the roadblocks being set up. You're not going to stop ice. You're not going to stop Border patrol. The only thing you're doing is irritating your community and want to go get.
Jesse Waters
Groceries or pick the children up.
Kayleigh McEnany
But it doesn't look like Democrats are heeding Homan's words yesterday they held a hearing on Capitol Hill and made it very clear that they want scalps.
Greg Gutfeld
Every single one of them has to be held accountable for the crimes, for the terror and for the murders that are happening to our own people in this country.
Kayleigh McEnany
We are slipping further and further into.
Dana Perino
A full on dictatorship.
Greg Gutfeld
What we are dealing with as far.
Jesse Waters
As I'm concerned is a lawless regime.
Kayleigh McEnany
And this, that's all of our residents are using right now to protect themselves in the streets. This needs to be dismantled. Rashida Tlaib she had a whistle prop Dana, you know, President Trump said that he wanted a softer touch and he is right at the end of his comment he said, you know, I'll call the governor, I'll call the mayor. And then I look and they're out with this hot rhetoric and there has been that disconnect.
Jessica Tarlov
So I think that when you need something to de escalate, then everyone needs a reason to say that they won a little bit or they got a little bit of something and everybody in this case has. So Tom Homan is able to say we are able to draw down a certain amount of agents that are there because we are getting more cooperation. And then that means that the governor and the mayor and the locals can say we got them to draw down because whatever arguments that they're making. So if the goal last week was to lower the temperature and get more cooperation and to remove border patrol, all of that has happened. And then you had the White House statement that you read at the beginning, which is that 4,000 have been apprehended criminal, illegal aliens. That's a lot of people. And I'm sure that there's going to be people on the opposition to President Trump that will look through and ask if every single person, do they have some connection as a rapist or a murderer and a gang member. What's interesting to me is that they don't put out the number that says we're halfway to the goal. We're two thirds of our way to the goal, we're almost there. Or like, I don't know, maybe they're not, maybe they're just beginning. I don't know how but it's, I think that that would help us all understand, like are we getting to a point where this can be drawn down? So for the people who are putting up the roadblocks, and I agree, annoying the neighbors or like the climate protesters that's block the highway and won't let people get to work, it doesn't help their cause. It's not persuasive in any way and it's illegal. So if local law enforcement breaks up those people, like you can just see right there, these, like fake roadblocks where you're like, telling on your local neighbors is absolutely insane. If local law enforcement helps get that out of the way, then I think again, like, you just, you keep sort of just advancing that ball down the field to the point where you can say, okay, our work is done here. But I just wonder about that number. If they've gotten 4,000.
Kayleigh McEnany
How many more are we waiting for left? Yeah, you know, Jesse, Democrats are at a crossroads because they've got to appease these folks. This is of the base, these protesters, and Chuck Schumer's own internal polling reportedly shows that Democrats don't want to abolish ice. They may want to change it, they don't want to abolish it, and yet there's this fragment of the Democratic Party that says, we don't want more DHS funding until you, you cease operations entirely in Minnesota.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, that's not going to happen. I wonder what Walz learned. They asked Trump what Walls learned. If Walls could go back in time and listen to the whistleblowers over Somali fraud and cooperate with ice, he wouldn't be under two federal investigations, two people wouldn't be dead, and everybody would be fine. He locked horns with the Trump administration and has nothing to show for it. His mayor is under federal investigation, his AG is under federal investigation, his lieutenant governor is under federal investigation, and they just pulled all these bad hombres out of there. And now I think, what, at least like 100 Ice Watch senior members are now being swept up by federal prosecutors. So when you look back, was it worth it? Really? Was it worth it? All the Nazi stuff, the Civil War stuff, all the violence against ICE agents, the deaths in the street, there is no way, if he could go back in time, he would have done this the same way. He would have done it completely differently. So you asked the President, if he could go back, would he have done things differently? Well, where does the President stand right now? He's sucked out about 4,000 criminal aliens out of this precinct and he's forced these people, the locals, to open up their jails. And he is committed to the mission. We still have 2,000 ICE and Border Patrol agents in that city and crime has dropped to 125 year low. You got to look back and say, okay, we had some issue with two individuals who got way out of hand. We wish that didn't happen. But in a hole you still have polls where a majority of the country supports deporting every single illegal alien in this country whether they've committed a crime or not. And now he looks like the adult in the room. Cuz he was the one that reached across the aisle, he was the one that sent home and he was the one that says, you know, you know, we could have done things. And at least he's giving and he's not talking about Gettysburg. The lesson here for Democrats nationally is to cooperate. It's that simple. And if you don't see that then you want violence. Maybe they do want violence.
Kayleigh McEnany
I mean I love Jesse that you always bring this back to fraud. Because Greg, that that is what this was all about. And I think absolutely Tim Wall saw an opening. Let's go after ICE because it distracts for me having to drop out of the governor's race.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. But it was only a delay tactic and it's going to come back to get him. He's toast. I think I speak for when you get kind of bored with Minneapolis. Yeah, I feel like I could drive Uber there, like I could get an Uber job. I've been down every street I that's the snow and the roughly paved roads and the clouds. It's like very can we if leftists go to Honolulu next or Aspen someplace different that you know, here's the deal. You bring up money and money is what's driving this Waltz and Frey fry are now allowing local law enforcement to cooperate with ice. So you only need a fraction of agents which is why you're drawing down. You said you need 11, now you need two for arresting and that's for obvious reasons. Right. It's easier to get them out of jail than chasing them down the street and having people charge them in cars or try to tackle them or spit on them or whatever. But also and this is the biggest thing that the media isn't reporting, the writings on the wall with Seattle, that verdict which was paying out $50 million to the family of a man who was killed in Chop, which was the protest run area of the city, you Minneapolis is looking at least two eight figure settlements. They haven't said it yet, but they will. The pretty and the good families and they're not going to get the money from ICE because it's not ISIS responsibility and it's really, really hard for the mayor who said he apologized to those families. So he already admitted it was their fault. So they're not going after ice. They're gonna have to go after who's responsible. And the police weren't there because the mayor and Waltz ordered them to stand down, which then created the deadly environment that we've seen. So if this were to continue, this city would experience the most expensive political theater ever. Those were two. What if you get another one and another one? And the problem is the protesters want more. They want another martyr. But they don't have to pay the price. The city will so all the taxpayers there. This border tactic reveals a pattern that you've seen over and over again. They accuse you of something bad to allow them to do the bad thing. So they accuse ICE of Gestapo tactics, and then they do Gestapo tactics. A nurse will accuse the MAGA staff of racism so she can then target the MAGA staff for their racism and say they don't treat patients equally. A teacher will accuse white kids in their class of white privilege of racism, so she can then call out their whiteness in front of kids. Each one. Each one of those three actions are wrong, but they construct an accusation beforehand to allow them to do that. The blockades are way more authoritarian than anything ICE did. And it makes you wonder what else protesters would do. This is what happens when you put the mob before the law. They become the law. Would they then decide they're going to take kids from the homes of Trump supporters? You could laugh, but in the name of compassion, you're helping those kids get away from racists. Would you tell doctors not to treat injured ICE agents? Well, we've already heard that already. Or Trump voters. We've heard that. Would you put people in camps who won't back trans surgeries again? You say that would never happen. In the name of compassion, you have no idea what they'll do. You'll have no. They butchered children. So don't put it past it. This is actually an example of a slippery slope that really does exist. Once you give the mob power, it's hard to take it away.
Kayleigh McEnany
Yeah, Jessica, when you look at some of the numbers in Texas, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, and Louisiana, there were 105,000, 245,000 criminal illegal aliens that were taken. No chaos, no deaths. Easy. Seven of the ten safest cities are places that cooperate with ice. So why not just cooperate from the get go?
Dana Perino
Well, I mean, I hate to say it again, but I guess as we're doing the same topic, I have always said that if ICE shows up and they show you proof that they are trying to pick up someone who has committed a crime in this country, not the crime of crossing the border but committed a crime here, especially against an American citizen, that you should cooperate. And maybe things would have gone differently. But the analysis that I'm hearing of, you know, the protest, the wild protesters versus law and order, just does not sync with reality. And Tom Holman admitted it as much in his first press conference when he called it at seven o' clock in the morning and he said, I would not be here if mistakes were not made. We will see what happens in the investigations into the two officers shot Alex Preddy and Officer Ross who shot Renee Goode. And they might find that there was bad behavior, that they made mistakes and that it wasn't the protesters fault for, you know, hurling her car into him or whatever Alex Pardy was doing. But you have to let that play out. You also have to be clear eyed about the fact that this is clearly partisan for the president. And you look at what happened in Maine, there were surging ICE agents to Maine and Susan Collins called up DHS Secretary Noem and said, actually, could you get them to leave? And she said, sure, no problem.
Jesse Waters
Why? And Susan, she's running for reelection and she's.
Dana Perino
But that's partisan. Amy Klobuchar makes a request, go away. Tim Wallace says go away. Mayor Fry says, go away. Tina Smith says, go away. That doesn't matter to the President because they bat for the wrong team. But because he wants to help Susan Collins and he knows what a loser of an issue this is for the administration, he makes sure to protect her. And that's borne out across the board. You want to. Everyone makes fun of you want to go to the polling? The new Quinnipiac poll today, absolutely brutal for the administration on this. 63% disapproval of ICE, 58% want no amount. But you talked about the hearing yesterday where they held out the poster about the scalps that they want. And Tom Holman is the only one on there who I think thus far I don't have a problem with. But they also had testimony from people who have been American citizens who have been victims of this overreach by ice, like the woman from Chicago, Maramar Martinez, who was shot five times. And dhs, same thing comes out and says she's a domestic terrorist, she was trying to use her vehicle as a weapon. Turns out that doesn't hold up at all. And they have text messages from the agent after saying, I fired five rounds and she had seven holes. Put that in your book, boys. You have to be honest about those kinds of messages. What you hear on these videos of how these ICE agents are talking About American citizens, whether they are. You are. When you just say if honest.
Greg Gutfeld
If you say, what am I dishonest about you are.
Dana Perino
You have not said. I not admit.
Greg Gutfeld
Would you not admit the primary error was never cooperating with ICE and that led to the environment for violence. You can argue about what ICE agents said or texted. That would never have happened if you hadn't played by the woman.
Dana Perino
Didn't do it.
Kayleigh McEnany
None of this. Again, you told me it was a.
Dana Perino
Big hoax about not the woman on her way to her doctor appointment. She also testified. Turned out that wasn't a hoax either. If you again going up.
Jesse Waters
She was a hardcore radical. She's trying to block her.
Greg Gutfeld
I guess you can argue over these things all you want. The fact is you have to come to Jesus and say, I don't. I hadn't. If you had cooperated, we wouldn't even be doing this. There'd be two people alive if it wasn't for the fact that you guys wanted them dead.
Dana Perino
You wanted the political theater that they only send ICE want it into blue cities and blue states to make liberals suffer. Didn't acknowledge that. What?
Kayleigh McEnany
We got to go. But one thing I would just note is when an American citizen is caught up in an ICE operation, it's a mistake and it is rectified and the consequences briefly being detained. When an American citizen.
Dana Perino
She shot.
Kayleigh McEnany
Let me just finish. When an American citizen fell victim to the immigration policies of the Biden administration. Their names were Jocelyn and Garri Lake and Riley and Rachel Morin. And they are not here to tell the story.
Greg Gutfeld
And the only policies that lead to harm are Democrats. We don't push trans. We don't push bail. We don't push any of this stuff. That 13 homeless in New York City, was that a Republican issue?
Dana Perino
They weren't even homeless.
Greg Gutfeld
It's because you guys didn't have the balls to get those guys out of their. Out of the cold, into shelters.
Dana Perino
You never change gun laws to school shootings. You never change gun laws.
Kayleigh McEnany
All right, well, shooting school.
Dana Perino
Oh, I'm sorry.
Kayleigh McEnany
No school shooting.
Dana Perino
No biggie. Just little kids.
Kayleigh McEnany
We got to go.
Greg Gutfeld
Who's doing the shootings?
Kayleigh McEnany
We got to go.
Greg Gutfeld
And I would just say the shootings.
Kayleigh McEnany
That's not true. Got to run.
Dana Perino
Adam Lanza was trans.
Kayleigh McEnany
I would note school shootings are at.
Dana Perino
Their lowest point in five years. Everyone's trans. Bye.
Kayleigh McEnany
School shootings are at their lowest point in five years. Thank you. President Trump says FBI. Coming up, Mirage is backing up voter ID laws. That's next.
Jesse Waters
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Dana Perino
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Kayleigh McEnany
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Jesse Waters
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Greg Gutfeld
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Jessica Tarlov
And Rapper Nicki Minaj setting off a fierce political debate by backing up voter ID laws in a post on asking what sensible, forward thinking, cutting edge leading nation is having a debate on whether or not there should be voter id? And it looks like Americans are backing up the Queen of Rap. According to a Fox News poll, 84% of Americans agree with voter ID, including 85% of white people, 82% of Hispanics, and 81% of blacks. So it explains why Trump is putting his political weight behind the SAVE act that requires proof of citizenship to register and vote in federal elections. Democrats, though, they are dusting off the old Jim Crow 2.0.
Greg Gutfeld
Sorry, Greg, the SAVE act is an abomination. It's Jim Crow 2.0 across the country. We are, we are going to do everything we can to stop it. The SAVE act in and of itself is a terrible piece of legislation, but probably doesn't give the President the power. He wants to come in and take over an election. But I do think the President is going to put the screws to John Thune and his allies in the Senate because his options to steal the election are going to continue to narrow.
Jessica Tarlov
Why is he fighting this one?
Greg Gutfeld
Chris Murphy well, he just admitted that it doesn't give Trump the powers that he claims that he wanted the powers for. Look, the way voting is administered is obviously questionable. We all have questions about it. The tell is the vehement resistance to voter id. You know, how can you be against voter ID and claim you're doing nothing wrong? If you're honest, it wouldn't mean anything to you. In fact, you would crave this oversight because you should be rightly worried about maga. I mean, hell, you know what? I don't know why Democrats don't come out for voter ID just to protect themselves from these evil. I mean, we're the Gestapo, we're the Nazis. Shouldn't you be worried about our elect the way we're going to tamper with the election? Ooh, you better stop that steal. So it's like voter id. This whole thing has a lot in common with Doge, Somali fraud, illegal immigration. It's not about the action, it's the reaction to oversight. The Dems realize that any kind of oversight is oppressive to their corruption. How dare you. Look at our books. It must be racist. So get this voter id. Jim Crow. What a surprise. What is amazing is the same party that thinks a child can possess the ability to understand having their genitals removed doesn't think a black man can figure out how to get an id. How can you be in that party? How can you be in that party?
Jessica Tarlov
And how can they want to fight on another 80, 20 issue? Jesse?
Jesse Waters
Well, it's never stopped them before. And Greg's right. When they fight this hard, you know they're cheating. They say that. They say that there is. It's racist. Right? And that every time you put voter ID in place, black turnout goes up. Geraldo, would you agree that Geraldo is.
Dana Perino
I thought you were about to call me Geraldo.
Jesse Waters
And I was like, I'm not that old. Geraldo, Not a Republican. Geraldo said, it is insulting to say that minorities cannot get an id. And then when you poll minorities, they all want voter id. They have voter ID in Europe. I thought the Democrats loved Europeans. They even have it in Mexico. Jessica. And don't you think that it would be logical after you poured 20 million foreigners into the United States, that you might want to use voter ID now of all times? We heard for so many years, we don't want foreign nations interfering in our election. Okay, well, 20 million foreigners just showed up, and you don't want them to vote with an id. Now, come on. I love this, though. They say there's no voter fraud. And then when I give them examples of Wanda the Stuffer in Bridgeport or Craig in Atlantic City, they say, well, there's no widespread voter fraud. Well, then how would you know if you don't prosecute it? Does Fannie Willis prosecute voter fraud in Fulton County? Does Alvin Bragg ever prosecute voter fraud in Manhattan?
Greg Gutfeld
No.
Jesse Waters
None of the Democrat DA's in these big blue cities ever touch it because it helps them. And if they ever did charge anybody, it would prove our point. If you guys don't do this, we know you're crooked. We already know you're crooked. Just let it go.
Jessica Tarlov
I'm surprised, Jessica. There isn't a Democrat who wants to win in 2028 that doesn't say, I'll do it.
Dana Perino
Well, I think you would have a Democrat who would say, let's do voter id, but that's not actually what the SAVE act is. So Jim Clyburns talked about this, and he said, I'm for voter id. I'm not for disproportionate voter id. And what the SAVE act does is that it requires that you either have your birth certificate or your passport, which is different than accepting a driver's license, for instance. And the reason for that, I don't.
Jesse Waters
Know if that's true.
Dana Perino
It is tr.
Kayleigh McEnany
Read the bill.
Jesse Waters
Okay, I will.
Dana Perino
Sorry, that might hurt you.
Jesse Waters
And then I will tomorrow we'll have to correct.
Dana Perino
Well, I won't be. There's no way.
Jesse Waters
There's no way this bill requires show up with their birth certificates. Then Barack couldn't register.
Dana Perino
That's disgusting.
Greg Gutfeld
First of all, we believe he's American.
Dana Perino
There is a very strong case, actually, that the SAVE act will hurt more Republicans than it will Democrats. So the people who want to do it, fine, let's go.
Jessica Tarlov
I think, well, if you want me to explain, I can, but sure. I mean, so President Trump is basically saying the SAVE act as it's written. He's like, look, don't try to sink the DHS funding for that. He's for a real ID, but so are 85% of Americans for real ID. And it has to go through the committee process, etc. Don't shut down the government over it. We all agree there should be. There should be ID at the voting booth.
Dana Perino
Oh, yeah, I'm not even talking about the dh. DHS funding fight. I'm talking about the fact that if you look at estimates right now, so 21 million Americans don't have ready access to either their passport or their birth certificate. 50% of Americans don't have a passport at all. If you want to talk about who has a passport versus who doesn't, we can get into that and where they might vote. Then on top of it to your voter fraud idea, people do actually look into it. Even like the Heritage foundation, very conservative, found 35 illegal aliens voted in 2024. Utah just did a roll of review of 2 million people in their voter rolls, came up with one noncitizen registration. Utah and no nonc.
Jesse Waters
Try California.
Dana Perino
So getting rid of also universal mail in voting, which is part of this, would affect a red state in Utah, Nevada, that also voted for Trump.
Kayleigh McEnany
Yeah, we have less than a minute. So what I want to say is this. First of all, Scott Pressler can walk you through as he has done on my show Saturday in America. We've been on this for four weeks and he's walked us through these tight elections and how this would make a difference. The problem Democrats have with the SAVE act is that in addition to national Voter id. It requires you to remove illegal immigrants from voter rolls. It is a very sacrosanct election. A bill that would safeguard elections. Let me walk us through just quickly, legislatively. When we began covering this at the beginning of January on Saturdays, there were 36 Republican co sponsors. There should have been 54 from the beginning. It is now at 50 co sponsors in the Republican Party, not a single Democrat joining. I asked Senator Rick Scott, hey, we may need to eliminate the filibuster to get this through. And he said, yeah, here's the things I'm for. Attaching it to a budget bill, a spending bill so it could get through a standing filibuster, which would have the added benefit of Democrats standing on the floor all through the night. Think about Spartacus when he stood there and he did the filibuster. He would have to explain why he is against an 8020 issue perpetually. That would be a big win for Republicans. Or you can nuke the filibuster entirely. And I would just say this to Republicans. Take it from James Carville, who told me, I am nuking the filibuster. My party is to make D.C. and Puerto Rico states. We're nuking it to pack the court. It's time for Republicans to step up. You got a few more months till November. It's the last time you have in the Senate to pass things through. Because if Democrats are to take over in November, they may not. But if they take over in November, make no mistake, they will nuke the filibuster.
Jessica Tarlov
All right, coming up next, are the Democrats about to make another huge mistake with Gavin Newsome.
Greg Gutfeld
Halfway to hell, My angels and demons in war with my sin.
Jesse Waters
Are the Democrats about to pull another Kamala? This New York Times op EDS asking, quote, will Newsom be the Democrats next mistake? Saying Greasy's record as governor of California is Republican strategist's perfect foil. It explains why the slick one's been working extra hard to rebrand cosplaying as a borderhawk and spinning as high speed train boondoggle is a win. I'm here in the Central Valley in Wasco, right near Shafter, and we just.
Greg Gutfeld
Made an announcement of our progress here.
Jesse Waters
On the high speed rail system.
Greg Gutfeld
We're now in the process of starting to lay track.
Jesse Waters
All of the hard work behind us now we're going to see the fruits of that. So Data, he was anointed like what, like four weeks ago? That's all you heard about. Was Gavin Newsom the chosen one? And now it's like everyone's regretting it already. What happens?
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, when the New York Times has a headline that says will Gavin Newsom be the Democrats biggest mistake? You know, it might not be going great, but I get it. Remember, it's early days and at least he's the one who is out there. Kind of out in front. I kind of laughed about that train thing because in 19 I dated myself a bit. When I first came back from England, I lived in San Diego. We worked on public affairs issues at PR firm and they had never, back then, they had never done anything on the train. And just now in the year of our Lord 2026, he's going to brag about that on X. And then he goes down to the border and says, look at this, did we do a great job? We got this fentanyl bust. It's like, well, why do you think they were here in the first place? I mean, you said free health care, right? You didn't care about the open border for four years during Biden and now you have a problem with a fentanyl overdose problem in California. Well, why do you think that is? But yeah, he's kind of shameless.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Jessica Tarlov
And I bet you must admire it.
Jesse Waters
I admire. You're right. He is out there. Greg. Kamala Harris just had to cancel her. Was it the six month book tour?
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. Well, you know, when you got to do 28 days in a facility, the only high speed rails he's doing are up his nose. Where does this shamelessness come from? What is he counting on? You know, he's got all these glaring scandals, the fires and all that stuff should, and one scandal should be enough. He's counting on the media to, to carry his bags. You know, he's like, he's like Paris Hilton whether, you know, telling her stylist and dog sitter to grab her Louis Vuitton and they do it. Look what Vogue did. I mean, Vogue happily gave him a Hummer. And it's. And here's my theory, because the media is so discredited now, it's really hard to talk about the media because it's like you can't take them seriously anymore. But I think the moment the media backs somebody, you know, that person's bad because they, they backed Joe Biden and they lied to us about Joe Biden. But I think he's counting on nobody else coming forward yet because they're too scared, you know, and all they need is one person to challenge the dog man. I have to say, it might be Fetterman.
Jesse Waters
Fetterman.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. Fetterman's the only one that is standing up. And I'm not crazy about him, but at least he's got some cojones. Those are. That means stones.
Jesse Waters
Kaylee, how's it going for Gavin? I mean, he's definitely on social media a lot. And, yeah, it's in the news cycle quite a bit.
Greg Gutfeld
Why are you being so nice?
Kayleigh McEnany
Jesse's good at Spanish. Maybe he can translate cojones for. For the viewers. But look, when you look at this, Vanity Fair wrote that glowy piece about Gavin Newsom, and it's talked about his California magic glow. She had a hard time taking in the molecular reality of Gavin Newsom. This is an effort to do what they tried to do to Kamala Harris, which is Kamalot. They were going to push Kamalot, but Bret Stevens just truth bombed the media. Every single person in the Republican Party needs to read that New York Times op ed. It is littered with facts and footnotes about this man's pesky little record that's going to get in the way of his ambitions. Least affordable state, highest income tax rate. One Californian leaves that state every minute and 44 seconds. One in 200 people in California are homeless. Think about that. One in 200. The entire homeless population of the country, 44% of that homeless population is in California. All of that is in Bret Stephens op ed. And that is just half of half of it. It is an excellent read.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
That's going to be the attack, Jessica, is that you're going to hear Don't Make America California. And what do you think about that?
Dana Perino
It's definitely going to be the attack. I would say that Bret Stephens, a conservative columnist at the New York Times, isn't like a New York Times editorial board piece about Gavin Newsom being a huge problem. And Newsom's team is requesting corrections to Bret Stephens's piece saying that his facts and figures are off on things like the population, on tax rates, on crime, which is down as a national trend. Thank you. President Trump, you know, saying, oh, businesses are fleeing because a business moves a headquarters versus how many dollars are still generated there. I mean, they're the fourth biggest economy in the world under Gavin Newsom. So listen, there's push and pull and. But these are. This is what the debate is going to be. It's going to be like when he was up there with Ron DeSantis when they did that debate with Sean Hannity and they went, california v. Florida. And when you come from a coastal state, especially one as big as California. And they definitely had some bad years. We covered, you know, a lot of poop on the sidewalks in San Francisco and things like that. It's going to be tough in a Democratic primary. But he's not afraid of the challenge. And Democrats are looking for someone at this moment who will stand up and fight, and he is ready to do that.
Jesse Waters
And he's a straight white man. Is that going to be a problem?
Dana Perino
Jessica, I am very straight white men myself. I married one, so I. I think it's going to be fine.
Jesse Waters
Okay.
Greg Gutfeld
Dare you? What? Him or me? You are now into straight white men.
Dana Perino
Not exclusively. I like everybody, but married one.
Jesse Waters
Okay. Is he Christian?
Dana Perino
Ryan was raised Catholic.
Jesse Waters
Okay, just checking. Just want to make sure we check.
Dana Perino
All the boxes also. All religions are good and fine.
Greg Gutfeld
Okay.
Jesse Waters
I like how we're getting her on the record here. Even. Even Islam.
Dana Perino
Get out. You're really gross.
Jesse Waters
I'm just kidding. We love Muslims. And Greg's shirt.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Dana Perino
What?
Jesse Waters
Mustard fell in a big vat of end.
Dana Perino
This mustard.
Jesse Waters
We can just. We don't even have to go to break. We can just go to the round. You want to just kill the break? Let's just kill it. Up next, do you buy this? Eric Swalwell spilling the gym tea. I don't know what that means. On Trump and the GOP lately.
Greg Gutfeld
I'm drowning my pain with a bottle and Mary coming down the back roll. The gassiest member of Congress, Eric Swalwell, peddling his locker room gossip to tmz. Roll of Brenda.
Jesse Waters
I'm trying to get as many reps.
Greg Gutfeld
As I can, and actually, I started taking on boxing. The truth really comes out in the congressional gym. Tell me Republicans and Democrats work out together. That's where I see who they really are. It's quite frustrating because, you know, the. That they talk about the president and knowing that what he's doing is wrong. Jessica, even you gotta admit this guy is a dork and a half. What do you say? Taking. He's taking on. Taking on boxing. No, you box. Taking on. And also that. That. That beard is terrible. Everything about him is sad. You'll even admit that.
Dana Perino
Oh, you saw my talking points.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Dana Perino
No, this was like. Everybody just says this. Remember during the Biden years, they're like, oh, whenever we talk to Democrats behind the scenes, like Joe Biden, he's never awake. Whatever. So I would believe that between buying Greenland and what he said about Rob Reiner and all the other stuff, that there are plenty of Republicans who are not. Who would say in the Gym. Oh, I can't believe I have to run away from reporters.
Greg Gutfeld
I don't think anybody. Jesse talks to him. You can't. Trust me. He had sex with a Chinese spy. You don't talk to those people, you know?
Jesse Waters
Yeah, I don't know. I think sometimes we all talk about our bosses when no one's around. Like you're always talking about Rupert, and then you say something different on television about how you love Australia and he's a newspaper genius. You should see what this guy says about you in the break.
Kayleigh McEnany
This is.
Jessica Tarlov
This dispute has escalated.
Greg Gutfeld
It has.
Jessica Tarlov
No one ever says anything about him.
Greg Gutfeld
So, Dana.
Jessica Tarlov
Yes, I have a. I have a comment.
Greg Gutfeld
Do you believe anything he said?
Jessica Tarlov
So to believe swallow well on this, you'd have to believe that there's a lot of Republicans talking to him at the gym. But I don't see how that's possible because Eric Swalwell has missed the most votes of active members of Congress. Back in December, he passed the Grivalva. Am I saying that right? Jessica Gri Alba.
Kayleigh McEnany
Oh, Grihalva.
Dana Perino
Yeah, votes.
Jessica Tarlov
And that person died in March. Okay, so how much time is he spending?
Jesse Waters
More absent than a dead guy.
Jessica Tarlov
So is he actually getting a taxpayer funded salary to work out at the gym but not show up to do his job and make votes on the.
Kayleigh McEnany
Floor of the Congress?
Greg Gutfeld
I heard. You know, because we talk. A lot of people talk. I talk to a lot of Republicans, Democrats. They say he doesn't work out, he just spends time in the locker room.
Kayleigh McEnany
In the locker room? Well, when Swalwell was in that locker room when Biden was president, I really wish I knew what he was saying because remember, he is the one who. Biden did not recognize him at a White House picnic despite the fact that they shared the debate stage together. So when he's grunting and lifting and was talking about Biden, I'm sure he was saying glowing things about Biden's age and mental acuity.
Greg Gutfeld
No, he was very helpful to Biden. He would blow dry certain areas of him. Dry? Oh, God, very nice. Areas that he can't reach fastest.
Dana Perino
Welcome back. Are you being rude if you don't chat with your Uber driver? An expert says, quote, a friendly hello, a smile and a quick check in is enough. Silence isn't rude. Ignoring someone is. Greg, are you pro conversation in the Uber?
Greg Gutfeld
Absolutely. I love a chatty Uber driver, especially when they're pleading for their lives. It never works, but I appreciate the effort. No, it's how I'm close to, you know, the Street. I want to know what these people are thinking about politics in the world, so I go through all the issues with them.
Dana Perino
Dana.
Jessica Tarlov
I got so much mileage out of Guy Benson's Uber driver conversation in Milwaukee, hiring a dnc, and that woman who was like, we're so mad at Joe Biden. I use that all the time.
Dana Perino
That's why you gotta talk to the.
Jessica Tarlov
But I typically am. I'm a quiet passenger.
Dana Perino
Do you hit the button, like, be quiet?
Jessica Tarlov
You can do that?
Dana Perino
Yeah, you can request silence?
Jessica Tarlov
Oh, no, I don't do that.
Dana Perino
No, you just make it clear. Be silent, Jesse.
Jesse Waters
I just get in the car and say hi, and then we're on our way, and we don't usually talk. And then I say bye and thank you.
Jessica Tarlov
And that's your tip?
Greg Gutfeld
Only if he's recognized.
Jesse Waters
I'm a great.
Kayleigh McEnany
I just wanted.
Dana Perino
That's not.
Jesse Waters
That's what bad tippers say. I know, I know.
Kayleigh McEnany
We're short on time, so I just want to know why Uber drivers plead with Greg for their lives.
Dana Perino
I think we all know One More Thing's up next.
Kayleigh McEnany
It's time now for One More thing. Jesse.
Jesse Waters
All right, Kayla, let's go to Florida, where it's so cold, iguanas are falling out of the trees, and Florida man making an iguana blanket. Fish and Wildlife Commission is allowing people to remove the iguanas from the property while they're frozen. Frozen iguanas, it's. What is it, like, 39 degrees? And they shut down their bodies and then they just drop out of the sky and you make a blanket. What's the big deal?
Dana Perino
They're alive, right?
Jesse Waters
Who knows? Tonight, Jesse Waters, primetime, Dana Lash, Michael Shellenberger, and Carly Shimkus, 8pm Hope iguanas don't have rabies.
Kayleigh McEnany
Greg.
Jesse Waters
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
Or wouldn't it be great if they did, huh? All right, tonight we got a great show. Emily Campagno, Jamie Lissow, Guy Benson and Tyrus. That's tonight. Let's do this sexy ostrich news. All right, take a look at this baby, huh? Don't put. Actually, don't put your head in the sand. Female ostrich. That. The Knoxville Zoo. They flap their wings and spin circles. Jesse. As a form of dancing, but also, it's a courtship ritual. Oh, someone's ready to party.
Jesse Waters
The ballerina.
Dana Perino
Ballerina.
Greg Gutfeld
Ostrich. Ever eat an ostrich?
Kayleigh McEnany
Oh, no, but I will try that tonight. My husband's a hunter, so we'll work on it. Dana.
Jessica Tarlov
Well, this dog named Banksy was watching Ostrich news. And he can't take it. He's gotta cool off as he dumps his head right there in the snow in Quebec. He was from New Orleans. He was rescued, though, and now he's living in Quebec. Loving it up there. Cool off. Stick your head in the snow.
Jesse Waters
That's right.
Greg Gutfeld
Ostrich doggy Jessica.
Dana Perino
Wish we had the like. Remember Jeanine's like, clumsy criminals. What was it called? All right, so clueless criminal. Clueless criminal. Pretend it happened. Late night cravings turned into a messy crime scene in San Diego, California. Surveillance video shows a clumsy suspect breaking into an ice cream shop, slipping, falling, and knocking over a container of ice cream. Tried to clean up his mess. Instead of stealing cash, he only stole the ice cream cone.
Jessica Tarlov
Guy is, like, clearly drunk.
Kayleigh McEnany
He's like. He's just hungry around fraternity. So some more news from Florida. We will end where we began. This was at Epcot. You see, this is the Ratatouille ride. I was there recently. This is the best ride. If you want to go on the best ride in Disney, Epcot, go on this one. But look, there's frozen icicles in Florida. We know it actually snowed in North Florida. People had all of their coats on at the parade. And let me just tell you this. You can pick out who's a Northerner or a Floridian. The Floridians dress like Eskimos. The Northerners are in T shirts. That's all Magic Kingdom, Epcot. And that is it for Florida news guys. All right, well, that's it for us. Over.
Greg Gutfeld
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Date: February 4, 2026
Host & Panel: Kayleigh McEnany, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld
This episode of FOX News’ "The Five" centers on two dominant topics: the White House’s announcement of 4,000 criminal illegal aliens removed from Minnesota under Operation Metro Surge, and major national debates over voter identification, sparked in part by Nicki Minaj’s online activism. The panelists dig into the political fallout of the immigration operation, the ongoing battles over ICE, and the 2026 election landscape—touching on everything from Gavin Newsom’s prospects to viral social media moments, and end with lighter stories from Uber etiquette to frozen iguanas in Florida.
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This episode is heated and highly partisan, laced with trademark humor, sarcasm, and energetic debate. The panel pulls few punches—especially on immigration, elections, and Democratic prospects—while also giving time to relatable, lighthearted stories to round out the hour.
This summary thoroughly covers the substantive and memorable discussions on "The Five" for those who missed the episode, retaining the original tone, attributions, and key talking points.