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Visit chevron.com americ Discover More. Well, hello everyone. I'm Kennedy along with Lisa Booth, Paul Morrow, Jillian Turner and Jimmy Fala. It is five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Well, it's going to be one awkward Christmas dinner when someone's gumming their figgy pudding. Hunter Biden not holding back, taking swings at his own dad's presidency. In a new five and a half hour interview, the former first son saying the border mess and disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal were all Joe's fault.
Jimmy Fala
Watch.
Hunter Biden
We need a vibrant immigration, but we don't want immigrants that are coming here illegally draining us of resources and also and being prioritized above people that are actual, literal heroes that are coming home, that are still recovering from 21, 20 years of endless war or anybody else in our society. I think one of the failures was the way in which they executed the withdrawal from Afghanistan. I think it was an obvious failure. My dad always knew this also is that the buck stops with him. I think that that was a failure.
Kennedy
Hmm.
Paul Morrow
All right. All he's missing is a little red cap. Hunter's starting to sound an awful lot like a Republican and less like a Democrat.
Hunter Biden
I don't even know if I'm a Democrat anymore. I don't know if I'm part of any political. Because it's like, you know, pox on all your houses, in my opinion. But not that you shouldn't engage in the political process. It's like, I'm just talking about the parties. I think it's like imperative that we don't give up on politics as a solution.
Kennedy
We gotta.
Hunter Biden
Because what's the alternative?
Paul Morrow
Well, let me clear out my next five and a half hours. And then Hunter turns to his own pardon, saying it made him the face of elite nepotism. And he's not happy about it.
Hunter Biden
It's up. Yeah, it's up. And that I, you know, like, that my dad gave me a pardon. You don't think that that, like, really makes me, like, feel like. Like I'm the poster boy for. For that I'm the poster boy for, you know, the, the elite son of the president who got a. Who got something nobody else could possibly ever get simply by. By the fact of his. Of his birth. No matter how much he fucked up, he got. He got away with it.
Paul Morrow
Yes, I think that that would be a valid response. So is Hunter saying that he did not have access to his father or the auto pen in order to preemptively turn down the pardon?
Jillian Turner
I mean, I don't know where to start with this, right? Five and a half hour. I guess that answers the question of blows in the White House, right? Five and a half hours. This guy just did.
Kennedy
And what if.
Jillian Turner
I mean, God, now he's shoveling dirt onto his dad at this point. I mean, really, this strikes me as what happens when a child star's voice breaks, right, and then starts auditioning for adult roles and nobody wants him because this is an audition. He's talking about the fact that he doesn't want anything to do with politics. Yeah, well, politics wants nothing to do with you either, pal. The reason that he's doing it, in my estimation, is he's broke. He admits that. Fifteen million, he says, in debt. Enough or nothing. Every time I see him on TV or anyplace else, he's on a beach someplace exotic. So I should be so broke. But anyway, the guy is very clearly trying to advocate for some sort of media job, right? He's. I'm not left, I'm not right. I'm the common sense middle, blah, blah, blah. I didn't agree with it. All of sudden he doesn't agree with Afghanistan. All of a sudden he's against all of this stuff. So he's the everyday Joe. And all of a sudden, also, by the way, he's worried about where the welfare money's going. I suspect he's. He needs a check at some point. Soon. You're right. So I think what this means is expect a charm offensive from Hunter Biden. And I say that with, you know, all cognizant irony in 2026. And who knows, before the end of the year, maybe he'll be sitting at this table.
Paul Morrow
Some big predictions coming out of the table today.
Jillian Turner
He'll be sitting alone. But.
Paul Morrow
And you know, Jimmy, to be fair, I know that. That you might have been at the White House. We still don't know whose drugs were found at the White House.
Jimmy Fala
Where were you?
Paul Morrow
But what we do know is we have three very curious formerly Democrat operatives now shatnering all over the party, and that includes kjp. Karine Jean Pierre says she's no longer a Democrat. Kamala Harris, on her latest stump speech, she was saying that she's upset with both parties. It's both their faults. And now Hunter Biden. So are these three really the frontrunners for the 2028 Democratic nomination?
Kennedy
No, I think when you look at Kamala, 2028 are blood alcohol content. I don't think they're putting it in any other category. But when it comes to Hunter, it's kind of shocking to see him go after his family like this. You don't expect a lack of loyalty like that from a guy who had an affair with his brother's widow and got a addicted to crack. I mean, time was Hunter showed a little more decorum in that. But what he's saying is, back to Paul's original point is he needs money. If you noticed, there's a book there, apparently. Does he have a book coming out?
Paul Morrow
Yeah, that was. That was his book that he wrote.
Kennedy
That he put out saying, how dare you and yell the Jake Tapper and.
Jimmy Fala
George, I'm a good painter.
Kennedy
It's not good. But again, he's not giving back the pardon. And everything he complains about speaks to such a lack of self awareness, fairness. But in this case, you'd normally give them a mirror, but in his case, he'd do lines on it. So you can. And since you guys brought up the coke in the White House, can I just say one thing? Because the country owes Commander the dog an apology. Do you know, we all sat here and we were like, what's up with this dog biting everybody? Are you telling me. Are you telling me you wouldn't have been a little jumpy if you had a dog nose and a White House full of cocaine? Pardon? Commander. That's who gets the pointed.
Jillian Turner
Him.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Lisa Booth
Although Paul might need to check out your alibi the day that the cocaine.
Paul Morrow
Especially some of those shopping choices.
Jillian Turner
I do. Come on.
Kennedy
I look like a defrocked mall Santa. I was like, I had a job. I lost it, but I'm sticking with it.
Paul Morrow
Let's get.
Lisa Booth
Okay, so I just want to 1. I had a Celsius. Celsius before the show. So I'm pretty fired up, which is probably how Hunter feels every day of his life. But I want to say Hunter Biden is the biggest loser, right? And he's been the biggest loser, the ultimate loser, since the day that he was discharged from the Navy from the cocaine. So listen to what he says during this interview, mind. The guy's 55 years old, okay? So he's up to 15 million.
Paul Morrow
Doesn't look a day over six, but.
Kennedy
He'S up a bit.
Lisa Booth
$15 million in debt. And this is what he says. This is the kicker. He talks about nobody's riding to the rescue of Hunter Biden and then goes on to talk about how his dad entered in the presidency poor and is leaving with no generational wealth. 55 years old and is complaining about not having generational wealth. Mind you, this is a guy who totally cashed in, exploited his family's last name, made $1.5 million in art, in amateur art, while his dad was in office, and then, you know, miraculously, they stopped selling after his dad was out. This is a guy, according to an IRS whistleblower, whose family, along with him and his associates, made $17 million off of foreign entities. And then this is a guy who should be in prison for his federal gun crimes as well as tax evasion, which doesn't even count the burisma money because that reached the statute of limitations. And then his dad gave him that blanket pardon. The blanket pardon, right. So can you imagine 55 years old and still complaining that, you know, daddy needs to do more for me? So the guy is a total loser.
Paul Morrow
No, I mean, he certainly has an ulterior motive doing this five and a half hour interview. But, you know, I want to know two things. Did we really need five and a half hours? And is he, you know, Paul says it looks like he's angling for a media job, but doesn't it look like he's angling to get into politics?
Jimmy Fala
What do you.
Paul Morrow
How do you read that?
Jimmy Fala
I mean, I would just say, I know that his, his dad says over and over how proud he is of his son. I would be very hard pressed to imagine that he does not feel disgraced by this kind of conversation. And it's something he keeps doing over and over again as somebody who literally interviews people for a living. As a side note, I would ask who on earth would ever spend five and a half hours in a live sit down? Who would answer questions for that long and who would actually give that interview I don't care if the Dalai Lama is your subject. You're not spending that long. This whole thing was very bizarre. I don't know what the goal of it was. I think another.
Paul Morrow
Do you feel bad for him?
Jimmy Fala
I mean, I feel bad for anybody who struggled with addiction. So. In a very meta kind of way, I guess. I mean, no, though, I don't. But I would like to think I'm a compassionate person and that I do have some, you know, sympathy for somebody who's been through what must be a hellscape. I just think that he doesn't engender a lot of goodwill and sympathy when he goes on rampages like that.
Lisa Booth
But his dad took advantage of him, too. I mean, he might some have anger with his dad. Right. Like, you know, your son's got major problems and then yet you use him as like your mule to make money for the family.
Jillian Turner
Look, he lost dad.
Kennedy
That is a double meaning.
Jillian Turner
He lost dad. That's the problem. That's really all it is. He lost that. He lost his access. The uncle wants nothing to do with him. So if you read the text that were on the computer, nobody wants anything to do him. He's in exile. Yep.
Jimmy Fala
Also, it bears mentioning in this segment that his dad, I mean, is very ill. Okay. His dad is gravely ill at this moment in time.
Jillian Turner
So he shovels dirt on him.
Jimmy Fala
He's not a young man. And so he's doing this all while his family is struggling with this back.
Paul Morrow
Home, which kind of makes him a bad person.
Kennedy
Yes. To bring it full circle back to the full circle.
Jillian Turner
This is a guy, remember, who said, I am dealing with the effing spy chief of China Hunter. Bro to bro, disappear. There's no statute of limitations on espionage. All right, time to go.
Paul Morrow
Even though he's got that blanket, he.
Lisa Booth
Had that blanket part in.
Paul Morrow
It's not the kind of blanket you want to cuddle up with in bed. Coming up, DHS helping illegals to get home for the holidays. That warm Christmas story is next. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series, the Life of Jesus.
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Lisa Booth
Kennedy's dancing and I like it. All right, welcome back. President Trump is turning up the heat on illegal immigration as Democrats ramp up the rhetoric, dusting off those Nazi smears. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem sweetening the deal for Illegal immigrants looking to leave before the end of the year.
Paul Morrow
We'll buy you a ticket, give you $3,000 to go home. And that includes people that have not been detained, maybe have interacted with us, are detained and don't have criminal charges against them. Yeah, raise your hand, we'll help you get home, we'll facilitate it and you might get the chance to come back to this country right way someday.
Lisa Booth
And federal agents arresting more than 100 illegal truckers following a series of deadly crashes across multiple states. And targeted truck companies in California linked to commercial licenses issued under Governor Gavin Newsom. But as streets get safer, Democratic governors like Tim Walls and JB Spitzker are sounding the alarm, calling enforcement Nazi tactics.
Jillian Turner
This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you.
Kennedy
This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when they scapegoat. And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. They sent CBP and ICE dressed in uniforms with automatic weapons into neighborhoods and they began literally stopping anybody who's brown or black and asking them for papers. I studied about the Nazi regime and how they did do that.
Lisa Booth
So Kennedy Democrats are big mad. But I want to talk about the self defense deportations because it started with 1000, then went to 3000. But if you look at the average cost of a deportation per person, like over $17,000. So I'll take a $14,000 per person in savings.
Paul Morrow
Yes, because when the government has to do that and not the person who is here illegally of their own accord, obviously it's much more expensive. I am all for saving money wherever we can, especially at the federal level. Because when we don't and we allow a lot of people in and then, you know, when the regime changes and it is decided that people are going to be deported, the bill goes on to the middle class taxpayer. And that is patently unfair. But this way people get to take responsibility over their own lives. And yes, you know, I agree with every governor who says that we have a broken system. We do. But part of that broken system are liberals and governors and Democrats in the Senate and elsewhere incentivizing a welfare state. Because when you put out a series of giveaways to people as a magnet to come into this country, you're not going to get the hardest working people. You're going to get people who want a free education, they want free housing, they want a stipend. We absolutely cannot afford that. So if we're going to fix our immigration system we are going to have to decide which way we want to go. Let people in, but don't make it a welfare state or be very, very careful about who you let in. And then the benefits that they earn can be theirs over time. And if you don't fit into that category, then self deportation might be, especially for a family of four. Do you get 12 grand? I mean, that's a lot of party cash at the holidays.
Lisa Booth
Well, and you look at even this CB1 app, right? It's like a tale of two administrations, which all of this is. But you look at the Biden administration, so they use the CB1 app to allow, to schedule asylum appointments, to get people to come to the United States to take advantage of our laws. And then you look at how the Trump administration is using it. People to self deport. Kind of tells you everything, doesn't it?
Jillian Turner
Yeah, a little bit of a little bait and switch that works for the middle class, I think. You know, first of all, let's recognize something. Waltz has got to be kidding me. This is a guy who made the nation of Somalia an annex to Minnesota, all right? And he's complaining about, are you kidding me? You're ripping us all. Because that was federal money that went into Minnesota. That's why they didn't care. They're happy to buy votes in Minnesota with our money outside of Minnesota. So. All right, that's the truth to him. The thing about this deal is the following. Government is going to run it, and that's why you got to be concerned, because in government runs things, there's a lot of slippage at the edges because there's other people's money. If you're going to do this, we can give you $3,000 to deport. Fair enough. But we want to make sure that these are not people who are saying, yeah, give me the $3,000, you can deport me to Bermuda. I'm a citizen of Bermuda. I'll go there for a week. I'll spend $3,000 at the tables. Maybe I hit something in blackjack, and then I'll be back in a week. That's not how we want this thing to go. Here's what's really the value here. You get the biometrics, all right? You're going to get. We're going to give you the three grand you're going to leave. Fair enough. We want your prints and we want your iris scan, and that means we know who you are. This is the vetting that we didn't get first time around. That way, if you come back, we tell you, as soon as we give you the check, as soon we give you the money, you come back in, you get a felony for reentry. And at least that way you know who you're dealing with here. Lastly, real quick, let me close. I think as we do these kinds of things, we've had a lot of stick. Remember the Trump administration said, big beautiful wall, but big beautiful door. I get the feeling as we enter 2026, we might be getting to the point where it's time for a little bit of the car. How about a little bit of a big beautiful door? Dana had a great idea. Go to a swearing in ceremony. The president's got to be empowered to do that. You swear them in. I think as we come into the 2026 midterms and you need the Hispanic vote, you want to soften the image a little bit. A little less stick, a little more care.
Jimmy Fala
I get a little while, a little more. More door.
Jillian Turner
That's exactly mixed metaphors, but yes. Thank you.
Lisa Booth
Dylan, you didn't look convinced during some of this. What's on your mind?
Jimmy Fala
It's bonkers. I mean, giving people who came here illegally $3,000 is a welfare operation. It is ripe for fraud and abuse. It invites and encourages people to continue coming here illegally to get $3,000. And, and most importantly, why not give $3,000 apiece to American families, especially during the holiday season if the government has the cash. Why are you sitting on it? It's not for illegal immigrants. It blows my mind and the politics of this thing, I guess. But the idea, if we were talking about a new Biden administration DHS proposal to give illegal immigrants three grand a pop to self deport, I don't think we would be having the same kind of conversation. I think people's heads would be exploding.
Lisa Booth
But it also, I mean, it's saving us a lot of money though. $14,000.
Jimmy Fala
No, it's not. But that's a made up number. It says it cost $17,000. Oh, by the way, $3,000 plus the cost of the airline ticket or whatever.
Lisa Booth
Plane they on that Spirit Air.
Paul Morrow
There you go.
Jimmy Fala
It'd be like $300 to go wherever they want to go. I just think the whole thing is so anathema to the President's goals. It's anathema to like the spirit of America. I do not understand this at all. If you like what you guys said.
Kennedy
Very good efforts to convince we're buying their id.
Jillian Turner
Think of it that way. Can you live with that?
Jimmy Fala
No. $3,000 to buy their ID.
Lisa Booth
I want to get Jimmy also.
Jimmy Fala
Wait, final point. If the 15 million people who are in this country illegally took the administration up on this offer. I can't do math, but what is 15 million times 3 grand?
Paul Morrow
347 billion. Yes, but I just want to say.
Lisa Booth
192 Minnesota, fly them back on Spirit Airlines. They will not want to come back, but that's where. Do you want to take this or do you want to take. You know, we also look at Operation Highway Sentinel. You've got 100 illegal alien truck drivers in California that have been arrested, which you get to choose. Well, choose your own adventure.
Kennedy
I can do both. We have to split the difference. You take these illegal truck drivers and have them cart the migrants back.
Jillian Turner
Oh, Jesus.
Kennedy
You put them to work. And understand, if we want to meet in the middle on this, okay? You don't go to Caracas or Venezuela or Mexico. Drop them off uptown on, like, 180th Street. They'll think they were already deported. We call it a day. Half the money. We're good here. Nobody's speaking English. It's great. I used to drive up there in my cab all the time. So I think that's the win. And I think the larger point we're trying to make here is that we want migrants in this country who want to assimilate and be a part of the American dream. It's not about whitewashing a culture. It's about the poem on the Statue of Liberty. It's a gimme. You're tired, you're poor. Your huddled mass is yearning to breathe free. There's no second stanza.
Jimmy Fala
And give them $3,000.
Kennedy
There's no second stanza where it says, bring me the other people who don't want to work. Give me free stuff and chant death to America. And that's what we're trying to do, is meet those people out. Because what they do on the left, they have this reductive approach to everything, is they tell you, this is like, we're a country built on immigration. I'm like, yeah, dude, but it was legal. That's the point.
Jillian Turner
It's amazing how that, like, never get. They never.
Kennedy
They never bring that up. They're like, oh, you're anti immigrant and hardworking. Yeah, thank you.
Paul Morrow
All of us are here.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Paul Morrow
Because our immigrants, you know, regardless of how recent it was, worked their asses off.
Kennedy
Their asses off. Do you. Do you. I mean, you think about, okay, how many card games my Italian relatives had to fix, how many horse races okay. These guys were putting in the time cap. That was you guys.
Lisa Booth
I think we're gonna end it. We're gonna end it there. I think that's a good ending point, right?
Jimmy Fala
All right.
Lisa Booth
Well, coming up, President J.D. vance putting the run in frontrunner for 2028. Do you see what we did there?
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I can see what's coming for me by the way, that it's been.
Jimmy Fala
Welcome back. As 2028 election chatter is heating up. Vice President JD Vance getting ready in his own special way. He is training alongside Navy Seals out in California. Vance says he recently did a 90 minute workout. That's a long time. He carried logs, he climbed rope, he ran along the beach. And it left him, quote, feeling like he was hit by a freight train. Vance is now leading the Republican pack. A new CNN poll out shows vance leading by 18% among Republicans and Republican leaning voters. California's Governor Gavin Newsom, by comparison, has taken the top spot for Democrats at 6%. Vance is already sizing up his competition like this.
Kennedy
Now the Democrats are always already talking about 2028, and it looks like they're going to nominate a California liberal who's presided. A California liberal who's presided over rolling blackouts, open borders and unchecked violent gangs. They're just trying to settle on whether it's going to be Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris.
Jimmy Fala
All right, Jimmy, we are now almost one year into the administration.
Jillian Turner
Yeah.
Jimmy Fala
Do we need absolutely to keep seeing middle aged government officials working out? And if so, why?
Kennedy
Listen, I like the Maha thing. This is not the week. Like, I like JD Vans, but nobody wants to see a workout video. It's Christmas week. I am so fat right now. I was out of breath reading. Okay. I was in my living room before. I'm like, Jenny, I'm going to need a spotter turning this page. This is not the week for, like, self empowerment. If you want to do this. January 10th, January 2nd.
Jillian Turner
Amen.
Kennedy
But nobody wants to hear about your workout routine while we're literally. I was dunking two cookies at the same time in the green room.
Jimmy Fala
What about a carve out for the airport? Do we want to see middle aged government officials working out in the airport?
Kennedy
No. I'm not a fan of that either. Okay. And I'll tell you why, too. Because there's this class warfare thing that's always in play at the airport. Everybody's trying to line up before you. Everybody's trying to box you out to get the seat. Okay. The idea that you've now got to work in at the gym with people you can't stand. Imagine how bad you get at the gym waiting to get on the treadmill. But now you've got to wait for someone's emotional support llama to walk off their stress before you get your treadmill. This is all gonna backfire.
Jimmy Fala
On the politics angle of this, Lisa, the reality is that Vance is the frontrunner and probably always has been. The president's been touting him as the successor to the MAGA movement. His closest rival, Secretary of State Rubio, is behind him significantly in this poll. And he also, by the way, insists that he is not running and doesn't want to. But this is how it is appearing. Things are lining up now, but it's still three years away, right? I mean, this could all change dramatically.
Lisa Booth
Well, absolutely. But I just want to say the vice president working, working out the Navy seals is so much cooler than when we see Representative Eric Swalwell posting those Thirst Trap videos back in July of him, like, pumping 135 pounds. And they not all these people weighing in being like, dude, that's not that much. Like you're not bragging, you know. So I would say working out the seals is so much cooler. Also, I got winded walking around the building today.
Kennedy
Moment.
Lisa Booth
I'm in your camp right now. To the politics. Yeah. I mean, Julian, 2028 is a lifetime away. Obviously, the vice President is being set up to be the heir apparent to President Trump. But, you know, so much of it hinges on what does the Trump administration look like exiting the White House. How popular is President Trump at the time? Now we've gotten some good economic news which might set the Republicans up ahead of the midterm elections. You've got inflation cooling. You also have super fast economic growth that we saw during the third quarter. So all of these things are positive for the Trump administration. If the economy is booming exiting the White House, then yeah, that will surely set them up. But yeah, it's way too far away, too. That's A lifetime in politics. Well, but I'll be working out between that one.
Jimmy Fala
I'm going to go too far. Is Erica Kirk. She endorsed the vice President for President 2020. 28. 2028. Over the weekend. Right. I mean, that was a huge signal to the rest of the party that if he decides to throw his hat in the ring, he's got the full weight of TP usa, all of their fundraising prowess, all of their energy with the youth vote behind him. That ain't nothing.
Paul Morrow
No. And he's also been a very solid messenger for the Trump administration. It seems like he has settled into his role nicely. You know, he's definitely a pit bull. He's an attack guy, but I think he's refining his message and his performance, which is what you have to do. Marco Rubio said in Vanity Fair that he is all behind J.D. vance. He has no interest in running and challenging him. If the vice president does, in fact, choose to run for the nomination in 2028, and I suspect that he will, he's got a solid story to tell. The country likes electing presidents from Ohio. But I will say this, like, yes, the Navy seals are impressive, but if JD Vance had chosen to train with the Rangers, he wouldn't have survived five minutes, let alone.
Jimmy Fala
I was just thinking while you were talking, it's like, it's hard to be a good vice president.
Paul Morrow
Right.
Jimmy Fala
It's hard to toe the line between doing good work and making that known, but not stealing the show, overstepping the president. It's a fine balancing act. Not many people get it. Right. What do you think, Paul?
Jillian Turner
I think you're right. I mean, it's a little bit like being the First Lady. There's a certain proscribed. Realistically, there is a placeholder. Right. The founding fathers saw that. The big flaw throughout history is that nobody plans for the next guy. Right. And so that's why he's there, I think. Look, there's an aspect of this that I get. First of all, you can make the argument that if you're going to take on that job, especially after the last guy, God bless him, you want somebody who's up to it, who's physically fit. So I think there's. That there's an optic here that is playing to the idea that we are the people who are ready to take on the hard role, make the hard decisions, and we are going. It's almost like, you know, what if you pass, like on a police department, if a lot of police departments, if you're physically fit to give you like an extra point on a promotion test. So, like, maybe you get an electoral college vote if you like past. Can you imagine J.D. prisca trying to do this would be like a Chris Farley skit.
Lisa Booth
That would be funny.
Jillian Turner
You know what I mean? But seriously, it shows that he's a young guy, he's up to the task. He's a lot younger than everything else. He might have a little bit of a JFK thing going. But on the right, which you don't normally get, that's something that the left does. We host. You know, we're the ones who put forward the sort of adolescent looking guys.
Kennedy
He is hunky. He's hunky. He's got the hunky beard.
Jillian Turner
The whole thing looks like a gay porn video.
Kennedy
No, no, I listen, I. I do. And I met him. He's very hunky in person. Oh, he does. But then there's this other thing.
Jimmy Fala
He has penetrating blue eyes. I interviewed him in Washington. He looks into your soul.
Kennedy
I'll tell you a funny story, because if you remember when he was running, the Democrats were like, oh, J.D. vance, we haven't had a vice president with a beard in forever. I'm like, easy for you to say because most people think Tim Waltz has.
Jillian Turner
A beard at home.
Kennedy
So what are we doing now?
Jimmy Fala
You went low and dirty.
Paul Morrow
You couldn't help yourself.
Jillian Turner
Know more about this weekend, you guys.
Paul Morrow
We got to leave it there.
Jimmy Fala
Coming up next, legend Dean Simmons.
Jillian Turner
Good job.
Kennedy
We got to keep.
Jimmy Fala
We need to keep it down. Thank you. All right, coming up next, Gene Simmons. He's telling Americans to chill out about politics and stop being so nosy. All right, now you guys can talk.
Jillian Turner
Hey, girl.
Kennedy
Kiss frontman Gene Simmons is offering Americans some advice ahead of the holidays. Mind your business. When it comes to other people's politics, the rock and roll legend says people should be more interested in who someone is rather than who they voted for. Check it out.
Jillian Turner
It's nobody's damn business who you support. Nowadays. People engage, and so are you pro or. And my first question is, who the are you? Who are you? Since when does who I support or not support is the business of anyone except my conscience? Literally. Have a sense of humor, take a pill, shut up, and stop worrying what your next door neighbor believes or doesn't believe. It's their America, too.
Kennedy
Amen. Gt I'll come to you first. I think what he's trying to say is there are so many better reasons to hate someone besides who they voted for.
Jimmy Fala
It's also rude. That struck a Chord with me because I was thinking like, I remember a time when you wouldn't. It was like very rude and weirdly intrusive to ask somebody. It would be like asking someone how old they are or like how much they weigh or something like, who did you vote for? Or like who are you supporting? And maybe not during an election, but certainly nobody would ask you after voting day who you voted for. And now that's just like everybody posted on social media, everybody knows or thinks they know who everybody votes for. Like there's no aspect of it that's private anymore, which I don't like. Also wait, look at this. I have a special.
Kennedy
Oh, hold on.
Jillian Turner
G.T.
Jimmy Fala
It'S a throwback. I actually got to meet him back. My phone was telling me this was like 20, 18, 1718. I got to meet him because he. I think it was Fox and Friends. I think he was on Fox and Friends that day. And I was walking down the hall and ran into him, took a picture with him. He's awesome.
Kennedy
That face he's making looks like he wants to be on Fox and Friends with benefits. That's a very, is a very friendly looking smile, right?
Jimmy Fala
I mean, I'm looking friendlier than him.
Jillian Turner
I'll give you know who you knew who he was.
Jimmy Fala
Oh yeah, of course. Of course I did. Yeah. And I also love, by the way that that interview is with Manu Raju of CNN because it's like an otter doer duo. You could not imagine. Yeah, it's like this such a serious guy.
Lisa Booth
The problem is though, like, we live in an incredibly invasive society now and like there is an intrusion. I mean there is no privacy anymore. And a lot of that social media, I mean you have influencers updating you on like when they take their bathroom breaks, right. So like there's this expectation to share everything with society. And then we had Covid as well where it was like, show me your papers about the vaccine as well. And I think part of this too, I believe decentralization is a positive thing when it comes to the media. But you know, back in the day you had limited options for like tv, radio. Right. So everyone was experiencing things together. And so I think the decentralization has also led to fragmentation and like people kind of going into our corners.
Kennedy
I'm going to Google all of that when we get out of here.
Jimmy Fala
I just approached me while Lisa was talking that, that that's also why polls are so skewed because people feel intruded upon now and don't want to tell pollsters how they Actually voted, but I think there's a booth. So they lie.
Jillian Turner
Yeah.
Kennedy
But I think the other thing is, too. You don't have to ask people who they voted for, because, you know, Kennedy, if you see someone driving in their car with a mask on, you know they didn't vote for Trump, you don't have to pull them over and be like, so what do you think of the midterms? Don't you already know? Aren't you just, like, tired at this point of wanting to know? I feel like we.
Paul Morrow
I don't want to know. I would love to know less, and I would love for people to stop putting someone who might have minor ideological differences in them in a completely separate camp and ostracizing them from family events and everything else. Because it has gotten to the point where it was cruel, it was unkind, and now it's murderous, it's deadly. And that's what he's trying to get past. And also, Gene Simmons, bless his heart, you know, he threw that all on the table and challenged us to lick it up.
Jillian Turner
Lick it up.
Paul Morrow
And his mother was a Holocaust survivor. So this is a person.
Kennedy
Yes. That's why he thinks it's so ridiculous that the Democrats keep peddling these canards about Gestapo and secret police. And I think the other thing we'll learn in Paul is this guy is mellowing out a little bit.
Jillian Turner
Oh, yeah, well, yeah. I mean, obviously, I think he could have gone in the other direction. Right. I mean, considering the. The youth he had in the career. Look, I mean, we're at a point. Think about this. And, you know, if you're of a certain age, you remember Kiss? This is where we are in this country now. It's. Gene Simmons is the voice of reason. Like, I didn't see that coming as a kid when like, let's ro. Rock and roll all night. Yeah. The thing I think here is that the takeaway is, first of all, he talks about his neighbors. You notice that? It's all about his ass. I mean, he tells me he had a spat. Somebody from next door called him. Will you turn the music down for it's four in the morning. But that's one of the benefits, as you're saying, of living in New York City. I don't know my neighbors. I never even see them. And I have no interest. First of all, I know how they voted. Right. So does that. But you don't even see them. And as a result, I can be cordial because it's, like, passing. And the whole way, that's it. I don't have to get into their lives and all of that. I will say, if history is any judge, what will happen ultimately, if you ever want to synchronize all of this, it's going to be an external threat. And so we're going to have one. We've had a Pax Americana. We've been comparatively lucky here. At some point, if there's anything that's going to break these walls down, it's going to be when we have to face up to whoever it is, likely China or something, we have to say, you know what? There is a lot more that unites and divides us.
Kennedy
So you're saying we're one more Sex in the City sequel away from coming together as a nation. Because if they do that again, I think we're going to have everybody together.
Paul Morrow
We got no choice.
Jillian Turner
I don't get the reference.
Kennedy
Listen, folks, there is a guy who hosts a Saturday night show on this channel who closes it every week by saying, be a Republican, be a Democrat, just don't be a Richard. Very well said, Kennedy. He's the best. The great one we have. No, you get the great one at 8, then you get the fat one at 10, and we have Larry Trump in the middle is like our personal trainer. God love you all. A Christmas week fastest. Up next, I don't need a lot.
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Eduardo, welcome back.
Jillian Turner
And time for the fastest boom, boom, boom, fastest whatever. First up, what is your secret survival strategy for the holidays? According to a recent survey, more than one third of Americans say they pack emergency chocolate to make it through family gatherings. Now, look, for whatever reason, Lisa, I see this as a gender issue. And for women, chocolate is like Narcan, all right? They have to have it at a certain point. So now that I'm going to get all these nasty emails, what do you got?
Lisa Booth
Although, yeah, I need it to prevent me from overdosing because I see, I've never seen it as like an emergency situation eating chocolate. I just see it as an everyday. Like last night I had a lot of peanut Butter cups. I just feel the need to confess for that. But also, isn't that the point of wine? Yeah, like, you know, at, like an out for dinner? Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Kennedy
Well, I think when they say 36% of Americans admit to bringing chocolate. Chocolate's a fancy word for edibles in this day and age. That's the secret sauce. Because your family doesn't see you in vibing, they don't cut you off. They can't go, you've had too much.
Jillian Turner
Okay.
Kennedy
Because look, really? Emergency chocolate? What is this, the Oregon Trail? You can survive. You don't need to bring rations. I don't buy.
Jimmy Fala
When I read it, I assumed something else, which is that people were bringing it because, like, people eat such gross food on Christmas, like ham and candied yams and stuff like that. I don't know that gross. What am I going to eat? I'm going to be hungry on Christmas.
Kennedy
I'm awful.
Jimmy Fala
Chocolate, Paul.
Paul Morrow
The only emergency chocolate I have is Godiva chocolate liqueur.
Kennedy
Amen.
Jillian Turner
What do you have? Godiva chocolate liqueur.
Kennedy
Yeah, that's right.
Jillian Turner
I drink my chocolate. All right, let's go to our next one. Don't be a grinch. This Christmas, a new list lays out the rudest things you can do when giving a gift, including bringing up the cost, expecting a gift in return, or giving a thoughtless present for whatever reason. I feel like I gotta go to FELA on this. I don't know what it is.
Kennedy
I'm actually like, a really solid gift giver. But can I tell you something I.
Jillian Turner
Would know, apparently so.
Kennedy
Someone last year came to one of my shows and asked me to sign a copy of my book. And when I opened it up to sign it, I realized it was a book that I had given to someone else as a gift and signed to them. Someone I know personally who ran out to Amazon and sold it as an autograph copy. She's like, my husband bought me this book. It was like 300 doll. And I'm not going to out the person. But as far as the book, Cancel Culture Dictionary. If you like reading at a third grade level, you're going to love my book.
Jimmy Fala
That person is a hustler.
Kennedy
Took it and sold it now. But this is. I'm waiting for it to come up again. Like, hey, can I get another copy of the book? Why are you going out to ebay? Your dirt bag? You know who you are.
Jillian Turner
You know who you are, Gillian, you got a horror story.
Jimmy Fala
I once got a gift. It was a book From a girlfriend. And when you opened it to the title page, another one of our girlfriends had written a her a note inside. So it was a re. Gift from somebody who I actually am friends with, who gave it to another.
Jillian Turner
Is that person sitting at the table by any chance? No, no.
Jimmy Fala
Nobody at this table.
Jillian Turner
What do you got, Lisa?
Lisa Booth
I don't think I've ever gotten a terrible present. I think when I was like two or something, my granddaddy kissed me and I said, granddaddy, I don't want kisses. I want presents. But I like giving gifts. The thing that I'm stuck on with this is giving the gift at an inappropriate time. Like, what would that look like? Like someone's at a funeral or something and you're like, merry Christmas.
Paul Morrow
It's cashmere.
Lisa Booth
What is gift giving at an inappropriate?
Kennedy
I don't know.
Paul Morrow
Whatever.
Jimmy Fala
I'm trying to think. I don't know.
Jillian Turner
Yeah, I'll take it at any point. What do you got?
Paul Morrow
My brother once received a present for his wedding from my grandmother that they had gifted to her two years earlier. That's amazing.
Jillian Turner
Nice. Nice.
Lisa Booth
You at least try.
Paul Morrow
You know the platter that keeps on giving. It's like the jelly of the month club.
Jillian Turner
I once got a Hunter Biden piece of art, actually. Self portrait Vomit. Yeah, well, it was fake. Yeah, It's a long story that it's true, though. I got a fake from like. Anyway, one More Thing is up next.
Paul Morrow
One More thing. A holiday program gramming note. Check out the all American Christmas tree lighting at Fox Square. It's tomorrow night at 5pm Eastern. And please don't miss the Fives Christmas special this Thursday featuring the host, naughty and nice lists and a holiday trivia challenge with a surprising twist. Plus, the biggest and best secret Santa gift exchange you've been waiting for all year. You got it. And now let's get to one more thing. Jimmy.
Kennedy
Hey, girl. I am going back out on tour in 2026. You can get tickets@foxacrossamerica.com they're calling it the hottest Christmas gift of the year because people who receive them light them right on fire. But it's a hot gig. You can come see me on the road. It's gonna be amazing. And can I give a quick shout out to the Randall Children's Hospital in Portland, Oregon? The kids, unfortunately, are spending Christmas at the hospital, but the window washers are giving them Grinch. They're giving them Santa.
Paul Morrow
Amazing.
Kennedy
And I highlight this for two reasons. We love the kids. And also, it's not every day Portland does something good related to Christmas, they usually tear down the tree and call them the three wise them. So this is progress all around. Way to go.
Paul Morrow
Well done.
Jimmy Fala
That's awesome. I love it.
Paul Morrow
Jaylen.
Jimmy Fala
Mine's even better though. Take a look at this. A koala stranded on the side of the road clinging to a light pole was rescued by a bus driver who spotted him, pulled over the bus, obviously got out, rescued him, brought him on board the bus. His name's Perry, by the way. That little guy. And then they sailed off. They rode off into the sunset, happily ever after together. Perry is very happy.
Lisa Booth
Hi, Gary.
Paul Morrow
Well, let's go spin some mad beats. In the name of the Lord. Meet Father Guillermo. He is a Catholic priest who also has some mad skills at the turntables. He's on tour right now. He packs the clubs and packs the church and hopefully he can turn water into white cloth.
Kennedy
I love that.
Jillian Turner
Real quick, we're running out of time. They retired the penny and everybody went to the Lincoln Memorial to look at it and they held like a mock funeral, etc. So it's going to have unforeseen repercussions to the economy. Jimmy, how are you going to tip now?
Kennedy
Yeah, honestly, do you now say to people, a nickel for your thoughts? What do we do?
Jimmy Fala
That was good.
Kennedy
Weird job.
Paul Morrow
Well, you're going to have to. That's it for us.
Jillian Turner
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Kennedy
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Podcast Summary: The Five | Episode: "New Year, New Hunter" | December 23, 2025
This episode of The Five revolves around several hot-button political and cultural topics, with the primary focus on Hunter Biden's explosive new interview criticizing his father's presidency, immigration policies, and a general air of candid (and often biting) debate about public figures and national issues. The panel brings their characteristic blend of sharp banter, humor, and cultural references as they dissect political news, immigration developments, 2028 election maneuvers, and even holiday etiquette, all while maintaining a conversational, at times edgy, tone.
(Segment: 00:56 - 10:38)
Hunter Criticizes Joe Biden:
Panel’s Reaction:
Notable Quotes:
Subthemes:
(Segment: 11:22 - 19:56)
New DHS Policy:
Critiques and Satire:
Notable Quotes:
(Segment: 21:10 - 28:13)
JD Vance Trains with Navy SEALS:
2028 Polls and Party Dynamics:
(Segment: 28:46 - 34:01)
KISS Frontman’s Advice:
Panel Reflection:
(Segment: 35:25 - End)
Surviving the Holidays:
One More Thing:
Hunter Biden Interview Segment
Immigration Discussion
2028 Politics
Gene Simmons on Political Civility
Holiday Lightness
The Five delivers a spirited, sometimes irreverent, look at the day’s biggest political controversies—Hunter Biden’s bombshell interview and its implications for the Biden family and Democratic loyalty, fresh battles over immigration and self-deportation, the pre-game for a 2028 presidential race, and the fraying of political civility. The hosts balance pointed criticism and humor, frequenting personal anecdotes, and providing moments of insight amid the banter, making the conversation accessible even to those who haven’t tuned in. The episode closes with playful exchanges on holiday coping strategies and gift-giving disasters, rounding out a lively pre-holiday discussion.