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you PCMATIC VPN for free. American made security for homes, businesses and government agencies. Visit pcmatic.com. Hello everyone, I'm Dana Perino along with Charlie Hurt, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters and Joey Jones. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. The FOX News alert. A tragic update as Operation epic fury continues. U.S. central Command raising the death toll to six American service members killed in action. And we are just getting word that the Israeli military military says it has begun a new wave of strikes on Iran. So let's get right to Trey Yings. He is in Tel Aviv with this update for us. Hi Trey.
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Dana Good afternoon. The Israeli military is now going after Iran's ballistic missile launchers. They've been targeting Israel throughout the day with a series of barrages and some of them slipping past Israel's missile defense systems. In the southern city of beersheva, at least 19 people were injured and taken to local hospitals after one of those missiles slammed into a residential area. It's been a game of cat and mouse with the Israelis going after these positions inside of Iranian territory. But while they're looking east, they're now also looking north. Overnight, the Iran backed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah getting directly involved in the fight, launching rockets toward the northern Israeli city of Haifa. Israel immediately responded striking targets throughout Lebanon. We also saw they issued evacuation orders for more than 50 Lebanese villages. And the southern Dahya neighborhood in the Lebanese capital of Beirut was hit with significant airstrikes. Again, the Israelis trying to send a message to Hezbollah that these types of attacks will not be tolerated. With the Israelis again going on the offensive alongside their US Counterparts A across the region. We're also looking at the Gulf where today the Qatari Defense Ministry says they shot down two Iranian fighter jets. These were SU24 bombers that were flying into Qatari airspace. The Qataris have been shooting down now jets and also cruise and ballistic missiles. So a lot of kinetic action across the region as the Israelis say they are bracing tonight for more incoming fire. Dana.
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But a quick question for you Trey. What does the current situation look like in the Gulf and is there this continued unity amongst the Gulf states, can that last?
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There's a lot of unity among the Gulf states, but they're certainly going to need some assistance when it comes to air defense. When we look back to how all of this began, we have to look back a few years. This has been all a domino effect across the region. Iran's proxy inside Gaza, Hamas, launched an attack on the morning of October 7th in 2023 that led to a war inside Gaza. Then Hezbollah in the north was brought in. And Gulf countries were watching all of this closely, but the threat from Iran remained. President Trump was able to get a ceasefire together between Israel and Hamas inside Gaza and then create the Board of Peace, which broadly gave hope to the region about the future of prosperity and stability in the Middle East. But the big roadblock, the hurdle for both the Americans and the Israelis, was always Iran's supreme leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei, who is now dead, and the Iranian regime. And so there is hope in the region, despite the fact that this conflict is developing the, that if the Iranian regime is taken down or heavily suppressed, that it could lead to more prosperity. The thing that the President has done, which we've heard from so many officials, not just here in Israel, but also in Gulf nations, is develop trust behind the scenes. He sent his special envoy, Steve Witkoff, and his son in law, Jared Kushner, to the region to work on that initial ceasefire. But also they've been developing these relationships, very important relationships that are now coming into effect across the region. And, and it's giving the United States the ability to keep all of these Gulf countries on the same page and mount a strong defense against these Iranian attacks.
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Dana, Trey, thank you so much. We all appreciate all the work you're doing. Stay safe and I'm sure we'll see you again soon. Meanwhile, just moments ago, President Trump posted a new message on Truth Social. It said, if I didn't terminate Obama's horrendous Iran nuclear deal, the jcpoa, Iran would have had a nuclear weapon three years ago. That was the most dangerous transaction we have ever entered to. And had it been allowed to stand, the world would be an entirely different place right now. You can blame Barack Hussein Obama and sleepy Joe Biden. Thank you, President Trump. Earlier, the President revealing why America needed to act now.
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We warned Iran not to make any attempt to rebuild at a different location because they were unable to use the ones that we so powerfully blew up. But they ignored those warnings and refused to cease their pursuit of nuclear weapons. This was our last best chance to strike what we're doing right now and eliminate the intolerable threats posed by this sick and sinister regime.
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And Jesse, let's start with you. You know, Iran could have, after Operation Midnight Hammer said, okay, you got us, like, obviously the pagers, the nuclear program, they could have said, all right, let us take a beat here. But they didn't. They continued to press on the gas, and this led to this moment. And now they don't even exist anymore.
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So when I saw the news we were going to war, I kind of had an uneasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. This is a very ambitious operation. It's unpredictable, it's extremely dangerous. But I have to just trust the commander in chief. He has an excellent track record with foreign policy, and so far, the operation has been incredible. And our military is far, far superior. You're exactly right. The Ayatollah should have taken the deal after Midnight Hammer. Instead, he was playing cat and mouse with enrichment. And as they say in golf, Donald Trump did not come here to lay up. He inherited a mess and he saw a window of opportunity. He set a deadline and he took action. And hopefully he's successful. And if he is, Americans for generations will benefit. So who takes power now in Iran? I have no idea. Is it a hardliner? Is it someone like the number two in Venezuela that we can do business with? Or are the people going to rise up? It's hard when you don't have any weapons and you live in a police state. So Trump will try to shape what happens on the ground from the carriers. And I'm sure the CIA is going to be passing a lot of cash around. How does this affect the American people? Well, the market opened lower and then it snapped back and closed about flat. Oil prices are up, gas prices at the pump, they're going to jump. And mortgage rates are already ticking up. So in the short term, you're going to see a little inflation. But if it's a successful operation, prices are going to go way, way down and the stock market is going to rip. Russia is not going to have a supply of drones that they're using to just decimate Ukraine. So it's going to push them towards peace. And the Chinese aren't going to able to suck up all that cheap, sanctioned Iranian oil. And we'll have full control over the oil rich Middle east and then we can pivot to the Pacific and stare down Beijing. But until then, you just pray for the boys, you pray for the President and hope everything goes well.
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And you'll have the vice president on tonight.
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We will pray for the girls too.
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Right.
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And for the men and women. And the girls.
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And the girls. And Joey, when we just had that update from Trey Yinx about what Israel is trying to do tonight, what do you think about that in terms of the technology they have today that they didn't have before and the intelligence? And do we have air? Do we and the Israelis have air superiority over that entire country yet?
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That's what we've been told. We've been told we do. I think there was a good point. I think trade might have been one that made it today that maybe it wasn't. That said, listen, they're going after the launch capabilities of the missiles. They could have 100 of them in a cave, but if they can't launch them, they're effectively useless. And so the strategy here is incredibly intel driven. And I kind of want to harp on what you were just talking about it. In my opinion, and this is just me looking at it, nuclear weapons is a great way to make this politically palatable on the world stage. This is about China. It starts and ends with China. I mean, every leader we have in our military right now believes their job is to prepare for a war in the Pacific. The entire Marine Corps was restructured for this a few years ago. Going into 2030, you look at what President Trump has done and you hit on it. And it's absolutely true. If you have the resources and wealth of the Middle east on your side, and we enter into a world war where it's North Korea, Russia and China, that is a tremendous asset, probably in this day and age, more so than even Europe, when you've taken out in a month's time more than 20% or upwards of 20% of China's import oil, when you've taken away China's doorway for influence in the Middle east, which is Iran, and not only that, but the biggest problem that Russia is going to have is who's been making their drones and missiles. When we talk about missile manufacturing, it's not just the missiles that Iran manufactures to stockpile to hit Israel with, it's the missiles that Russia is using to hit Ukraine with. This is also a big purchaser of technology and weapons from China. And so I truly believe this is all a part of President Trump's chess game with China. I think there is an immediate threat with Iran. But, I mean, they've said it to our faces and we haven't listened. This is the best time. The fight might have been in five years. But what a world could we live in where we don't wait those five years until it really hurts us. I applaud them for it because they're going to take a lot of arrows on the politics and on the even diplomacy. And you saw how the UK reacted. They're going to take a lot of arrows for this. But it is truly, it's almost similar to how we have said, listen, it's going to hurt a little bit, but we're bringing manufacturing back, we're going to use these tariffs. You're not going to be happy about it for a year or two, but it's going to set us up for success. I believe this is a part of that same ideology when it comes to leading this country for the next hundred years. What do we always complain about? We get four year plans, not 100 year plans. This is a hundred year plan. And the smartest thing other politicians could do is buy in on it because it will absolutely lead to our prosperity and longevity, our security for the next hundred years.
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All right, Jessica, I haven't heard from you yet.
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Yeah, so you said, Joey, this is the best time to do it. And I think that the problem that the American public has with what's gone on and these are people who vote like me, people who vote like Jesse, is that our government has not made that case to us. And Secretary Rubio was out there giving a press conference and I think he was by far and away the best representative of the administration to do it. Had the most level of clarity and that's because he admitted it finally, that Israel decided to do this and we went along for the ride. We have heard so many conflicting stories and that's why you have strong MAGA supporters from Megyn Kelly to the Matt Walsh's of the world saying, excuse me, wait a minute, this is confusing and not what we signed up for for the president. Right. No boots on the ground. Now we have six TED service members. But we heard about Iran's nuclear capacity as we heard about what's going on with the ballistic missiles. We heard they're going to attack us. But the truth is, is that Israel was going to go in and then they were going to attack us because of what our ally was doing. So the decisions that are being made are being orchestrated by Bibi Netanyahu. We have a strong partnership with them for sure. But that's why Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff are central players in this again, because they are the BB whisperers, as it were. President Trump is all over the map in what he's saying is going on here. I mean, I was following. He called like every reporter in his phone or however he keeps his Rolodex. And we had everything from two to three days. I want freedom for the Iranian people. Four to five weeks. We had new people that we wanted to fill the Ayatollah spot, but we killed all of our best options. So what next? And we're all left here sitting, wondering what's next and bringing us back to where I started with Netanyahu. This is his plan. They were the ones who decided they wanted to take out the Ayatollah. We didn't decide that. So while we may sit here and say we don't want regime change, Israel does and Israel is the one who is out frontier, otherwise they wouldn't have taken him out.
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Just real quick, and I know you didn't mean it in any other way, but if the first time we're going to mention six dead heroes on this show is right now, I just, I don't want it to be from a political standpoint. I want it to be from. We honor them and we know that that sacrifice will mean something. I know you meant. But it's important for me to say it.
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That's fine. And I, I don't. I know I made sure, or I was trying to make sure that I communicated in that way because we were. Yeah, we. In the introduction it was mentioned. Charlie.
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There was no disrespect, Charlie, as you and I, I think, are the senior members of the team here today. But you've covered several of these conflicts. Right. And there's been complaints from either side of the aisle about does the president actually have the power to do that? And over and over again it's like, yes, he does. That doesn't. He's not required by law to necessarily explain it in a particular way for any particular group. But some of the Democrats who are complaining that he doesn't have the power, they didn't feel that way when Barack Obama did it in Libya.
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And of course, these are also the same Democrats who have been supporting an open borders for the last four. Four years prior to the last year. So I seriously. Just sit down. It's kind of obnoxious to even have to listen to it. Every president since Thomas Jefferson has believed that the president has the authority to do this from either party. The question to me, I think, is about the timing. Whether or not because every president of our lifetimes has believed that Iran was a. With a terrible force in the world and has attacked Iran indirectly, either through proxies or going after allies. Donald Trump, in typical Trump fashion, walks in and says, you know what, actually, I'm not going to fight a proxy. I'm going to go directly and cut off the head of the snake. And now I have a lot of, like you were saying, Jesse, I have a lot of like, I'm very nervous. I don't, I don't like this. I don't want to be in a war. I don't want to have boots on the ground. I don't want to lose soldiers. But you can't say that that's a wild departure from every single president of either party of our lifetimes. It's not. He's just being very direct about it. And I think he's been very clear about what he wants. And as Pete Hegseth said today, it's, this is not a so called regime change war, but the regime sure did change. That's true.
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He is.
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But the president is very focused on the issue of a nuclear weapon. And every time he talks about the environment, he talks about the N word, nuclear. That's what he's worried about when it comes to the environment. It's what he's worried about when it comes to geopolitics. And you know, and you know, you look at how Iran has responded and you have to recognize that he's probably right about this. These people are lunatics. We've known that for a long time. If they have a nuclear weapon, that is, that's a total global game changer. Look at what they did on Saturday, Friday night, Saturday morning they woke up, two countries were at war with them. By midday Saturday, they were at war with nine countries. These people are fricking nuts. And that's also very scary. It's proof that of the need to probably make sure they don't ever get a nuclear weapon. But it's also terrifying because a country that has absolutely nothing to lose and is willing to do this to themselves, to their population is a country that has to be taken very seriously. And I thank the Lord that it is President Trump and the team he's put together that is making these decisions and not Barack Obama or Joe Biden or somebody else who doesn't understand what's at stake the way I think the president does.
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We have much more to come. Coming up next, President Trump laying out the next steps after decapitating Iran's leadership.
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talk to Iran's leadership. If only he could find someone. His strikes didn't kill the US military snuffing out 49 of their top officials. So it's no wonder why Trump says epic fury is is already ahead of schedule.
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We have the strongest and most powerful by far military in the world and we will easily prevail. We're already substantially ahead of our time projections. We projected four to five weeks, but we have capability to go far longer than that. We'll do it. We also projected four weeks to terminate the military leadership. And as you know, that was done
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in about an hour.
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So we're ahead of schedule there.
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And president telling abc, quote, the attack was so successful, it knocked out most of the candidates. It's not going to be anybody that we were thinking of because they are all dead. Second or third place is dead. God bless you, Dana.
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Thank you. Sorry. Very unusual.
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So the president speaking to reporters today, what did you think of that?
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So I think he is the most transparent president, right? He's willing to talk to just about everybody. And every hour you could refresh the news, maybe even half an hour and go, now he said this, now he said that. So if you put it all together, you think, okay, so one of the things that he is definitely saying is that he is trying to give the people an idea for when it might end. So the first question from the press is how long is this going to go on? Okay, you know what, we're 58 hours into this. Can we just take a minute, take a beat? And what he's trying to say is I think he's actually probably doing too much and trying to say, well, we're ahead of schedule here, but how long will that last? I don't know, but he's trying about a month, we'll see a few weeks, I don't know. It's not going to be in the next day. Okay. And I think one of the things that happened, listening to Call me Back this morning was amazing. They had a military expert on and he said that one of the things that the Israelis had learned to do and possibly our intelligence as well, is they were following the bodyguard of each of the members that were meeting there. So that's how they knew where they were. And the decision to just always underestimate the enemy. So that's what Iran constantly underestimates their adversaries. So they never thought they would strike in the daytime. They never thought they would strike on the Sabbath. They had all of their things in their minds saying, we'll be safe if we all get together for brunch. And they all went, now, was there a Delsey Rodriguez, like in Venezuela, in that group of 49? That's what the president's indicating, that there might have been two or. But now that's not an option. So I, I think that the next points for him would be outline the history. Okay, so Charlie and I, again, we're like the oldest ones here. It's like, I remember the Ayatollah when he. Right. During the Reagan administration, I was terrified of this guy. And I thought, ronald Reagan will protect me. Why? And then walk through. Walk people through it. Take time. People will listen to the president. So he has time to explain the history. And I think that's really important. And that includes more recent history, like, for example, roadside bombs that were material that was purchased from Iran and ended up in the Gulf War. I think he has to outline the threats as they are coming, but also show our new allies and how Iran decided to turn on all of its neighbors at once and destroy beautiful hotels that the Emiratis had built. And everybody in those Gulf states are saying, we want a better life. I think President Trump continues to talk about the competence of our military. I think that helps a lot. And then I. I would hammer the Democrats on the Department of Homeland Security still being shut down. There's no need for it. ICE is not going to be abolished. Get to the table. Get the people who work at TSA and everybody at Homeland Security just put this behind you, let it go, and let the Department of Homeland Security move forward. There's a hearing Tomorrow morning at 9:00am with Kristi Noem. That would be a good opportunity to announce it.
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Your name was invoked as a wise one. Charlie, we're in trouble. So you've heard from the president, you've heard from Secretary of War, from Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff. Do you think that they've communicated effectively? And Rubio.
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I think they have. Obviously, it's in that sort of bumptious way that somebody who is as. As wide open as the president and this administration is where they are constantly talking. And I think it confuses some people because they. They. You lose focus. The focus of this is to eliminate the nuclear threat from, from Iran. That's what the focus of this is. That doesn't mean you can't make a really good case for all the other reasons why we should hate these people, the people that have the regime, the Iranian regime. And I think what you said, Dana, is great about, like, you know, go through every single US Service member who has stepped on an ied, who has been hit by a missile that was built or flown by Iran or their proxies, do that list, have a press conference about it. I do think, and something you said, Joey, earlier, that I think is really important. This is a 100 year sort of decision, as opposed to a four year decision. And of course, this goes back to Trump 1.0 when he did the Abraham Accords. And like, nobody's talking about this, but I think it's a really, really important thing. The only reason that we are sitting here with these other seven countries in the Middle east on our side right now is because of the Abraham Accords, because of the inroads the President has made to try to take the Middle east, which has been an unsolvable Gordian knot for decades, and said, look, we prefer commerce over chaos. Let's figure this out. And everybody's come to the table except Iran. And in fact, every time, you know, Saudi Arabia is like, yeah, well, maybe we'll normalize relations, then you have October 7th, because Iran doesn't want it to happen. And I think that that long game negotiation, even down to the thing where, you know, he's telling Iran, look, we will give you nuclear fuel for life if you just come to this agreement. And they're like, yeah, no, we don't think we want to do that. And then he's like, okay, well then send them in.
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That's when, you know, they weren't negotiating in good faith, Jessica.
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So no tears shed. And anyone who's writing even a slightly positive editorial about the Ayatollah or anyone who has been running Iran, should, I don't want to say lose your jobs, but you look really stupid. These are the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. They have killed hundreds, if not thousands of Americans, let alone other people across the world. I think everyone who is defending them on the kind of grounds that they're not as bad as you would have thought, etc. It seems completely ridiculous at this point. We do have a new set of allies. I think more allies is always better than less allies. I have talked about this. From Trump 1.0 into Trump 2.0. The Abraham Accords, I think, is for me, probably his seminal foreign policy achievement. I think it's fantastic. I think it's a really good thing. I hate seeing, though, like, the uk, France, Spain, other countries that stood with us when, for instance, we were going to go into Iraq and Afghanistan saying this is an illegal war, you know, we don't want to have anything to do with this. And maybe I want too much, but I would like everybody to try to be on the same page. If this is a just action and it is going to bring a better economic outcomes, for sure, peace and prosperity and hopefully freedom for the Iranian people, which I know everybody wants. I, I hope that there is still a diplomatic solution on the table. The Omanis are saying that they were close. I understand it is in their best interest to say that if there can be an even better nuclear deal, let's get back to the table and make sure that that's possible. We are spending a lot of money. We are tragically losing American lives. Brave people who are fighting for us and our allies in the Gulf, they need more from us. It's going to cost a lot. And those are the kinds of things that hit people back at home. And you better believe that people who are against this and certainly the regime change aspect are going to be saying they're not focused on your health care, they're not focused on your cost of living. We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars in a war that means nothing for your life.
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Justin, let's go back to the negotiating table.
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Yeah. Here's the negotiation. It's going to look like Japan on the aircraft carrier after World War II. That's the negotiation. We've lost six heroes. The nuclear deal is we take all your fissile material and we might sell you a reactor to make some power with. That's the only acceptable nuclear deal after this, regardless if you believe in this war or not. We've made it this far to let your foot off the throttle now. It just would be. You can make half the country mad. Doing that would make the other half mad. Everybody's mad. That's all you would do. I don't accept that. I think everybody misunderstands this. When we talk about regime change and what happens next. I don't think President Trump said, let's invest in this guy. He can run the country and we can work with him. That's the bad policy. That's the policy that's ruined us since the 60s. That's the policy that got us into this problem with Iran to begin with, the policy is whoever's strong enough to take the reins and understands we will kill him if he doesn't work with us. That's who we're going to work with, and that's as much as it needs to be. I don't know if Iran gets a free and prosperous government or not. As long as they don't get one that chants death to America and death to Israel and tries to create missiles for Russia and China and works with our enemies more than us after, that's what I'm concerned about. And if that makes me, you know, America first too much, that's okay. But that's where my concern is. And honestly, I think that's the most pragmatic view, and I think that's the view of the Trump administration.
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All right, sounds good. Coming up next, the usual suspects. Kamala and Gavin Newsom raging against Operation Epic Fury.
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Looks like Democrats pathological hatred of President Trump is still alive and well. Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom wasting no time in blasting Operation Epic Fury. Watch.
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Donald Trump has dragged us into a war the American people do not want. If we want to stop Donald Trump with this random decision decision that he has arrived at, then Congress must act reckless.
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Is the only way to describe this.
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He didn't describe to the American people
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what the end game is here. He didn't describe the existential threat of the moment, the immediacy of the crisis at hand. There wasn't one.
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He manufactured it.
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And check out this glowing obituary, the Washington Post, to Iran's now deceased murderous Ayatollah Khamenei, writing about his bushy white beard and easy smile, how he cut a more avuncular figure and was fond of Persian poetry and Les Mis.
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Well, how did Les Miz turn out? I think they just found out.
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This is a good point.
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The Iranian version.
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Yeah. So what? I mean, like, the press, like, they never. They can't help themselves.
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Yeah. And the weird thing is, is that presumably that was written before. Right, Right. So because as the way the obit offices work or departments work, you have big world leaders that everybody's got to file. And then they're like, we forgot to mention that he killed 32,000 of his own citizens last month after they said that they wouldn't do anything after President Trump asked them not to. One of the things about the Democrats is the bat signal went out. The bat signal said, call this a war of choice and you can go down the list. And they all say war of choice. I think one of the things that people do also forget, in addition to the things you mentioned before, 46Americans were killed on October 7th when Iran backed Hamas went into Israel. And that decision by the Iranians and Hamas and Hezbollah to maybe as much Hezbollah, but Hamas to take that action on October 7 led to the all of this. Remember the pagers, Pagers exploding all the time because the Israelis said, never again. And Biden said, okay, yeah, maybe never again, but we'll see if we can help you later. And President Trump said, oh, no, never again. And he meant it. I do wonder if any Democrat can tell us when is enough enough on Iran. John Fetterman, the senator from Pennsylvania, said, I'm sick of hearing Democrats saying, no matter what, Iran can't have a nuclear weapon, but then not saying anything about what they would do to stop it. And I do believe that the whole world might rest a little bit easier knowing that Kamala Harris is not making these negotiations. If you think about the story that we did last week that said that the issue of Gaza really hurt her. Right. So you can imagine that the Hamas caucus would have talked her out of something like this type of action. And that's also what she just displayed on the street corner.
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Joey, you have a unique or unique to this table perspective of having gone into war and had to suffer through hearing, or maybe you didn't, I don't know. But the idea that you have men and women going into battle right now and they're listening to this carping back home, political carping back home from people who are clearly trying to score political points as you and your friends are perhaps willing to lay down their lives for that. Right? To carp.
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Yeah, we didn't listen to any of them. They were all talking heads. I didn't vote in a presidential election until McCain, Obama. And it's because I learned that McCain was a POW and I thought that was kind of bad A. You know, I don't think this generation has that luxury. We didn't have smartphones, so we weren't checked into politics as a part of our personality. I couldn't tell you what the politics were of any of my buddies, except we all agreed on killing bad guys, and that was a hell of a lot of fun, as General Mattis said. So I think that in a lot of ways, maybe we're more ignorant, maybe we were less propagandized. I don't know. I think that a lot of folks right now in the military are excited. I think that Pete Hegseth has done a hell of a job returning the warrior. He said it in one of the latest comments. I think maybe it was at the press briefing. He said, we're no longer, we're not defenders, we're warriors. We are waging war on our terms to win the goals that we set and come home and celebrate. And that's the posture of this war. Listen, I understand the angst of looking back on the last 20 years, of what wars in the Middle east were. But if I look back on the last 10 years and see everything that President Trump has done, from Maduro to Midnight Hammer to Qasem Soleimani, he strikes, he achieves an objective, and he brings our guys and gals home, I have to believe that's the plan here. I believe that having these Arab nations pissed off at Iran is a, is a helpful tool in that when it comes to whatever rebuilding or whatever reconstituting the country of Iran turns into, because they've got a honestly, they've got a bigger risk here than we do if Iran, if the regime reconstitutes itself.
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Jessica, where is the line where Democrats go too far?
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I certainly haven't seen it yet. I mean, making thoughtful comments about how this is a war that we chose to get involved in when one of our strongest allies pushed us in that direction, I don't think is anything but a factual assessment of what's going on here. And if J.D. vance and Tulsi Gabbard weren't in the administration, they'd be on that same side. They'd be saying, focus at home. America first is about what's going on here. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard basically left the Democratic Party because of this, saying that Hillary Clinton was going to get us into these useless wars. We heard that in 2024, in the election, too, that Donald Trump is the peace president and Kamala Harris is the one who's going to take us down these routes. She even called it properly. She talked about, you know, what he was going to do to the economy and that he was going to take us into war with Iran. If you go back to 2012, Trump is even tweeting about how Obama's poll numbers are so bad he's going to launch a strike on Libya or Iran. And Stephen Miller also tweeting before the election that because Liz Cheney was Kamala's top adviser, which I don't think is true, anyway, Liz wants to invade the whole Middle East. Kamala equals World War three. Trump equals peace. And I know he has the FIFA peace prize, and that is a big deal, but I think that that committee would not be too happy with what has happened in the last few days.
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Jesse, the fact that Democrats were not making any of these arguments at the beginning of the Ukraine conflict makes me think that maybe it's all political on their part.
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So we tried to do what the Democrats wanted. We bribed the Iranians, we gave them all of this money, and it didn't stop them from enriching. We tried sanctions, we tried treaties. Trump tried bunker busters. And they've already acknowledged that this regime cannot ever get a nuclear weapon. And after all of these things we've tried, they're still enriching stockpiling ballistic missiles, exporting terror, and threatening to shut down the straits. So the President says, you know what, if you guys aren't going to do anything, we've tried everything else. I'm going to take this one for the team. I'm going to do something. You don't have to back me up publicly. But I know deep down all these Democrats are very happy that I'm doing this. And they can calculate if this thing goes bad. They can say, you know what, Trump's on the warpath and you could stick it to J.D.
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vance.
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But if it is successful and we have a military parade this summer on the 250th anniversary of this country and the stock market rebounds and everybody gets these fat tax refund checks, the Republicans have a very different story to tell before the midterms.
C
And of course, every future president will be able to thank him for that. Taking it off their table, off their plate. All right, coming up next, President Trump is not rolling out boots on the ground in Iran. General Jack Keane will help break down what a possible ground. Okay, I think we're going to Trey Yings. We have sirens in Tel Aviv right now. Let's go to Trey Yings. Who's there? Trey, what can you tell us?
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Yeah, Charlie. Right now there are air raid sirens sounding across all of central Israel. We also understand that in the northern city of Haifa, there are sirens sounding. The Iranians, after about a seven hour lull, have appeared to launch what appears to be a large barrage of missiles toward this country. Israeli air defense systems are working right now to shoot down the incoming fire. We've not yet seen any interceptions from our location here. But just wait one second. We need to look at the skyline and we'll keep you posted.
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All right, thanks. Thanks, Trace. Stay safe. Let's bring in retired four star General Jack Keane. General Keene, thanks for being with us. I want to start by asking you what your thoughts are so far on the first couple of days of Operation Epic Fury.
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Well, I'm in contact with the Israelis and our American leaders, you know, who are conducting this operation. I can tell you that it's exceeded all of their expectations. This thing has been planned for months. It's very detailed, it's very comprehensive. You got a sense of the scale now. Been openly talking about it in terms of how long it would actually take to achieve all of our objectives. But they're just a few of them for you. 2,000 sorties. A sortie is one aircraft, one mission, one multiple targets. Be one sortie. 2,000 flown in the first 24 hours. And we've been repeating that. That is quite staggering in and of itself. After 24 hours, we established air superiority. That meant that we could fly all over Iran, twice the size of Texas, but in 17 different provinces conducting airstrikes with aircraft and also with cruise missiles. And the reality is, is that after 48 hours, a stunning achievement because we're focusing so much on the ballistic missiles, because that is the number one weapon system the Iranians have to retaliate. The second one is drones. And after 48 hours, they have been reduced 50% in terms of their ability to retaliate. That is stunning. How did that happen? We've been disrupting the chain of command. We've been not only killing leaders, but cyber attacks, disrupting that kinetic attacks, also on communication systems, and then the targeting themselves of the. The launch systems, the trucks that transport it.
F
Sorry, the missiles themselves interrupt. We need to go to Israel right now to train. There are missiles in the air right now. Trey, can you tell us what's going on?
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Yeah, my cameraman's going to zoom in right here. And if the producers can turn down the mix minus on my IFB while I'm talking here, the. Our efforts right now to shoot down this fire and we've seen at least we're just. Just stay with me one second. I need. Okay, from the skyline here to the left of the building, you need. And guys, turn down my mix minus if you can okay, you can see this incoming fire right now. There are multiple interceptions that are taking place over Israel's second largest city of Tel Aviv.
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And Trey, okay, you're going to, you'll be able to tell if this one is taken out by the defense system.
B
Yeah. Right now we can hear a number of explosions in the distance. Some interceptions on the outskirts of the city. But you just saw live there the stream through the sky as clearly the Iranians have launched a very large barrage. And some of these missiles appear to have made it past Israel's missile defense system, the Iron Dome. Remember, the Israelis have a tiered missile defense system. They have at the lowest level, the Iron Dome. Then they have David sling in the arrow 2 and 3 systems. Now, the Trump administration was aware that the Iranians would launch a counterattack. They provided the Israelis with additional air defense, including the Patriot and Thaad systems. But still, this is not a perfect layered defense. It is difficult to shoot down some of these hypersonic missiles. And you can hear those explosions behind me. Remember, the northern city of Haifa was also taking fire at the same time. And so when the Iranians save their missiles and launch all at the same time, it's an effort to overwhelm the air defense systems in this country. And I'm just looking at my phone here and there are just alerts coming in. I'm going to just have my cameraman zoom in here and you can just see all of these missile alerts throughout the entirety of the country. So, Trey, this again just shows you how many rockets and missiles are coming in.
C
Trey, what can you tell us about the stockpile of interceptors that Israel has? And whether or not they're is a realistic danger in running out of these interceptors.
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So it's a real issue. These are very expensive missile interceptors. And while the Israelis don't have an unlimited amount, we know that the Americans were helping them in advance in preparation for this conflict. It's why you saw so many of those C17s travel over the Atlantic, some of them landing here in Tel Aviv before this war began. But again, it is challenging to shoot down this incoming fire when the Iranians launch the missiles in the way that they are launching them right now. There was a seven hour lull in the launches. We hadn't seen any since this morning when there was that missile impact in the southern city of Beersheba. But just yesterday, one of these missiles slammed into a community on the outskirts of Jerusalem called Bet Shemesh. Nine people were killed in a single strike. Six of them from the same family. And it gives you a sense of just how devastating these missiles can be when they are able to get around these air defense systems. When we zoom out here and we look at the region, air defense is going to be a critical part of this operation. We know there was close coordination between President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu planning offensive action against the Iranian regime. They are carrying out that operation now. The President, President Trump also was very importantly focused on defense in the region. And that is what we are seeing tonight, these efforts to shoot down the missiles here in Israel. But it's also Gulf countries that need that support. There are also missiles coming in here. Just slide off with me here. I don't know if we're going to be able to see it just went behind the building right there. You're seeing this missile go right between these buildings in Israel's second largest city. And we don't know where they are landing. We're not sure what the Iranians are trying to target. But the fact that we have seen so many missiles come in again, it highlights the importance of defense amid this conflict. We heard earlier today from the Secretary of War, the Iranians are going to get hit hard in the days ahead. We understand that. But Israel is also bracing for the possibility that this continues to escalate for a matter of days and possibly weeks.
A
Trey, thank you so much. Stand by and stay safe. And we'll bring back in General Jack Keane. And General, one of the things we mentioned earlier, and it's something you were talking about just before we were interrupted by those missiles. The first question that the President keeps getting is when is this going to end? How do you advise the Commander in Chief to handle those questions? He's answered it, I think, in a fairly comprehensive, even, dare I say gentle way to say we're not sure, like four to five weeks. We're going to have to see how it goes. What would you say?
H
Well, time isn't the factor. This is a condition based operation. And so we have very defined objectives in terms of what we're trying to achieve. And when those objectives are achieved, that's when it ends. So it's the conditions that the Iranians have a vote here and they can disrupt what we're trying to achieve and maybe delay it and we have to apply more resources. But time isn't the issue here. What is the issue is accomplishing the military objectives that have been assigned to Admiral Cooper and also to the IDF leaders in talking about what's taking place here and add some Additional color to it. As I was saying, After 48 hours, the reality is Iran's ballistic missile attacks have been reduced 50%. That is a stunning achievement. And I was explaining how that has happened. The second thing that's happened is the penetration rate is down at 10%. During June, it was 14%. When they attacked in April, it was over 20%. And that was totally unacceptable to the Israelis. And that really disturbed them at 10%. We are literally saving lives every single night here as a result of that. The other thing that's happening, the Iranians, this is through intelligence. We knew they were expecting to hit salvos of some 25 to 50 missiles at one time. And why would they want to do that? They thought they could do it. They had the numbers. They thought they would be able to produce that because that would overwhelm all these systems that we're talking about here. There's only one that the Israelis own that can defeat a ballistic missile. That's the Arrow system. The David Sling? No. And also the Iron Dome. No. But we've given them Patriots and THAAD systems to also help with that. And we've got Aegis Cruisers at sea here. So what are they actually shooting now? They're shooting two to five. And that's what you just saw right there. Two to five at one time. The Israelis can handle a lot of that. They're not going to get the 25 to 50. And that's why this operation out front had so much massive sorties going at not only the leadership targets and some of the other communications infrastructure, but these ballistic missiles were priority. And that's why the United States is all in here and certainly the IDF is all in. So it's. What is the plan was to take as much of this down early on for all the obvious reasons, to take away their retaliation capability and preserve life. And they are doing an absolutely commendable job of doing that. This is Admiral Cooper and the IDF leaders that are running this operation here. You're seeing the results of it right there. You're not seeing 25 to 50 salvos that they wanted to achieve out there. So a lot of lives are being protected. This is a dangerous situation and obviously people are still going to be hurt by it. But they're moving as quickly as they can to shut this down completely. That is when they've achieved their military objective. And to get back to the time issue, it's condition based.
F
Okay. General Keene, thank you so much for your time. I'm sure we'll speak to you again. In the coming days. Our final thoughts are coming up next.
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Just moments ago, explosions were heard in the distance in Tel Aviv and new rocket fire was seen. So we have some final thoughts to get to the start with you, Jesse, you have a big interview coming up in a couple of hours.
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Yes.
D
So we have the vice president on and he'll talk about the case that should be made for this operation. And from what we're understanding, this operation, as the general said, is conditions based. The president, the Democrats are not going to put a timetable on this. Once the objective is achieved, then the operation will be over. And what we're looking for is someone who's not trying to enrich uranium, someone who's not going to shut down shipping and finance the slaughter of innocent people all over the region and here at home. The president thought this was the opportunity. He saw a window. He took action. And right now he says he does not care about the polling. He knows what he's doing is right and he's willing to take a risk. And it is a big risk. And hopefully this works out.
A
My thought is this, that if you are somebody out there who cares about human rights and especially the rights of women and young girls, you should support this change because that's what those women deserve.
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Joey, I care more about killing bad guys and I'm just loving it. I'm loving seeing it. Six year olds are dead and I want to know their names. I want to be able to celebrate their sacrifice and honor that. The best way to honor it is to drive this home and defeat our enemy. I think that's what's happening. I love the fact that as a guy who fought two wars that I have to always be like, well, you know, we, you know, we fought for each other because sometimes I don't know what the ultimate goal was. This one's clear. I think they've done a good job explaining it and I think they're going to achieve it. Thank God for our secretary of war.
A
All right, we have one minute left. Jessica.
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Thinking about the six heroes who already passed away and those who are in the region and could be in harm's way. I hope that they stay safe. I'm also thinking about the brave Iranians, many of whom who have sacrificed their life in pursuit of a free Iran. I think there are many good outcomes that could come out of this. I am hoping for a best case scenario that also includes a free Iran and a weakened China and Russia, which which we should all be celebrating if that is the case.
C
God bless those, those heroes and the best thing that anybody can do for them is to have a defined purpose and have their sacrifice not be in vain. And I think that, I think President Trump is determined to do that.
A
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Date: March 2, 2026
Host: Dana Perino
Panelists: Charlie Hurt, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Joey Jones
Special Contributors: Trey Yingst (Live from Tel Aviv), General Jack Keane (Ret.)
This episode of The Five is dominated by breaking news from the Middle East as Israel, backed by U.S. forces, launches a fresh wave of strikes on Iranian military infrastructure following escalating hostilities. The panel breaks down updates from the region, examines the role of U.S. leadership, analyzes regional and domestic political reactions, and discusses the broader strategic, humanitarian, and economic implications. Live reports from Trey Yingst in Israel and analysis from Gen. Jack Keane offer firsthand context to the ongoing conflict.
[01:11–02:38]
“It’s been a game of cat and mouse with the Israelis going after these positions inside of Iranian territory.” – Trey Yingst, [01:18]
[04:13–05:37]
“We warned Iran... This was our last best chance to strike what we’re doing right now and eliminate the intolerable threats posed by this sick and sinister regime.” – President Trump, [04:51]
[05:37–07:39]
“Donald Trump did not come here to lay up. He inherited a mess and he saw a window of opportunity... If it’s a successful operation, prices are going to go way, way down and the stock market is going to rip.” – Jesse Watters, [06:22]
[08:01–10:33]
“This is a hundred year plan. And the smartest thing other politicians could do is buy in on it because it will absolutely lead to our prosperity and longevity, our security for the next hundred years.” – Joey Jones, [09:34]
[10:35–12:34]
“The decisions that are being made are being orchestrated by Bibi Netanyahu. We have a strong partnership with them for sure. But that's why Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff are central players in this again, because they are the BB whisperers, as it were.” – Jessica Tarlov, [11:31]
[13:00–14:56]
“Every president since Thomas Jefferson has believed that the president has the authority to do this... Donald Trump, in typical Trump fashion, walks in and says... I’m going to go directly and cut off the head of the snake.” – Charlie Hurt, [13:31]
[36:26–43:03]
“After 48 hours, a stunning achievement because we’re focusing so much on the ballistic missiles... they have been reduced 50% in terms of their ability to retaliate. That is stunning.” – Gen. Jack Keane, [37:18]
[35:32–40:22]
“You can hear those explosions behind me... It highlights the importance of defense amid this conflict.” – Trey Yingst, [39:00]
[27:25–35:32]
“Looks like Democrats’ pathological hatred of President Trump is still alive and well. Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom wasting no time in blasting Operation Epic Fury.” – Charlie Hurt, [27:25]
[25:30–26:47]
“The policy is whoever’s strong enough to take the reins and understands we will kill him if he doesn’t work with us. That’s who we’re going to work with, and that’s as much as it needs to be.” – Joey Jones, [26:19]
[47:51–49:25]
“If you are somebody out there who cares about human rights and especially the rights of women and young girls, you should support this change because that’s what those women deserve.” – Dana Perino, [47:51]
[47:03–49:25]
“The best thing that anybody can do for them is to have a defined purpose and have their sacrifice not be in vain. And I think President Trump is determined to do that.” – Charlie Hurt, [49:10]
This episode offers a thorough, fast-moving, and sometimes tense examination of the latest Middle East conflict, weaving real-time reporting, historical context, strategic analysis, and political debate. Panelists share a mix of support, skepticism, and hope regarding the consequences of a bold and rapidly evolving American-Israeli offensive against Iran. The conversation is rich with on-the-ground updates, a focus on larger geopolitical stakes, and frequent recognition of the military and civilian lives affected.