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Jillian Turner
Hello everyone. I'm jillian turner along with emily compagno, harold ford jr. Jesse waters and greg gutfeld. Five o' clock right here in new york city. And this is five.
So the D.C. pipe bomb suspect appeared in court today. This nearly five years after he allegedly planted two pipe bombs near the DNC and RNC in Washington. Brian Cole Jr. Has been formally indicted. He's facing one charge of transportation, an explosive device with intent to kill. Another charge for attempted malicious malicious destruction with an explosive say that three times fast. If conduct convicted, he could be looking at up to 20 years now behind bars. Both the FBI and Justice Department say they cracked the case after a fresh sweeping review of the existing case. No new leads, no new evidence. Team Trump is blaming the Biden administration, accusing them of drop within a couple.
Jesse Waters
Of months of the finding of these pipe bombs.
Harold Ford Jr.
They pulled agents off this case. When President Trump came in, he made a decision that he was going to reinvigorate the investigation.
Jillian Turner
This case languished. It sat there for four years collecting dust. No one did anything to solve this.
Greg Gutfeld
The prior administration sat on the evidence for four years.
Harold Ford Jr.
There wasn't any production of new evidence from five years ago. I don't Know what the hell this prior leadership team was doing outside of, you know, targeting political opponents, weaponizing the FBI, destroying its reputation, embarrassing agents.
Jillian Turner
All right, there's also this. Not sure what to make of it. CNN anchor Jake Tapper is taking heat from his critics. He appeared to identify the pipe bomb suspect incorrectly as a white man on the air. He then subsequently aired this photo showing.
Greg Gutfeld
He'S obviously not Brian Cole Jr. A.
Jesse Waters
30 year old white man from the D.C. suburbs is charged with transporting an explosive device.
Harold Ford Jr.
We do have new photographs, as you saw during that, that presentation from Brian, new photographs of the suspect and we're showing those to you right now.
Jillian Turner
So a couple of Democratic lawmakers are offering praise for these charges. Mostly though, it is criticism of the Trump FBI.
Greg Gutfeld
Listen, horrific, if they got the pipe bomber, excellent investigative work, they should be proud of that.
Jesse Waters
But why does it have anything to.
Greg Gutfeld
Do with Joe Biden looking at this crowd doing a victory lap? All the senior FBI officials across all key divisions have been fired for political purposes. It's a little rich that they are saying American, America safer.
Harold Ford Jr.
How much earlier could we have caught.
Greg Gutfeld
This guy if resources hadn't been diverted?
Jillian Turner
So the reason, Jesse, I think why they're blaming the Biden administration is because there's this discrepancy going on. The FBI said they followed this doggedly for five years, but the evidence led nowhere. They couldn't get a handle on the information. But then the FBI now also admitting that they shuttered the case in less than two months. The whole thing was shut down by the end of February 2021.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, but I got Tapper's back. I could not believe this guy was black either. I mean.
It'S always a white guy with the bomb. Goes to show, you can't judge a book by its cover. There are 5,000 FBI agents dedicated to investigating January six and they don't investigate the guy that planted the bombs. I mean, come on now, I don't know if there's more to meets the eye with this guy, but Congress has to haul in Chris Wray and make him testify under oath about a cover up because this has to have been a cover up. It was like pulling teeth out of Wray to get the video. Remember, he would always like, I don't want to put all the video out there. And we had to subpoena the video. And then his other guy that was leading the case said, well we, we geo fenced the phones and we got all the data. But the data was corrupt. Well, the data wasn't corrupt because Trump's FBI cracked the case. And then the other FBI guy under Biden said it was really hard to break this case because this guy was wearing a mask. He blamed Covid. So the deep state is still spinning. They're out there saying, well, you know, this guy said that the election was stolen. Really? So they're saying that the Biden FBI covered up for this guy. Really? It also doesn't make sense because the guy started building the bomb materials in 2019. That was long before the election was stolen, quote, unquote. I don't know anything about this case. I haven't been following this case, but I will tell you this. Is the guy a lefty? His dad played the race card when he sued the Trump administration.
Is he a righty? Probably not since he planted a bomb at the DNC and the rnc. Is he mental? I think he's mental. The grandmother said he was autistic. He can't make eye contact. He's got very short legs, and he's living with his mom.
Harold Ford Jr.
He got short legs?
Greg Gutfeld
What's with the short legs?
Jesse Waters
You know exactly what I'm talking about. Proportioned, Greg.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, okay.
Jesse Waters
So I think this is where it's going, that this guy, he's already confessed. How smart can you be? You've confessed and you bought all the bomb parts with a credit card.
Jillian Turner
I'm being told that we have not. We, meaning Fox News has not, like, confirmed this, the dad lawsuit aspect of this yet or the short list, even though you're not following the case and you don't care.
Jesse Waters
I'll wait till Fox confirms it.
Jillian Turner
Thank you. Okay, Harold, still waiting on everything. The Trump FBI. Excuse me, that the Biden FBI sat on this evidence. Right. They essentially accused them of burying this investigation in this case. But why would the Biden administration do that when there was a bomb planted in front of the dnc, their own party's headquarters? That doesn't add up to me.
Harold Ford Jr.
It's good to be with you. I think your question, the way you framed it, suggests that I don't know a whole lot more than what's been reported. And according to some of the reports, nobody knows anything.
Jillian Turner
We're just doing this segment anyway, and.
Harold Ford Jr.
You know, we have.
Emily Compagno
I just.
Harold Ford Jr.
I would caution people to be careful about conspiracies about this, that the deputy director of the FBI, who I consider a friend and a former colleague, one point said this was a total hoax, and then he's now. He now knows the facts, and we now know that this was not a hoax, that this Indeed was this young man who, when I say a hoax, that these things were planted, he thought that maybe that someone planted them there. But he later corrected himself and said, this is something obviously something more serious. Two, I've seen reports saying he was a Trump supporter. I've seen the things that you also said, Jesse, that his father may have had a lawsuit against the administration. I don't know, but I understand the young man might have been. He believed that the 2020 election, there was something that happened there that he didn't like. I presume that means that he believed that President Trump won. I also don't get, Jillian, your question. It took the FBI years to capture Whitey Bulger. He kept looking.
Greg Gutfeld
We don't have decades, I think.
Jillian Turner
Right, right.
Harold Ford Jr.
We don't blame the previous administration. The previous administration, Ted Kaczynski. It took years to find him, the Unabomber. So I applaud the efforts of Mr. Patel, Mr. Bongino, our own Judge Jeanine, for the great work that they did to capture this fella. And I can only urge all of us just to wait until we get more information. I like Jesse and Greg, the young lady that sits in your chair, Jillian, Dana. I want to see more information about these two men who tried to kill President Trump. We still don't know about this crooks kid and this guy down in Florida who almost was able to take a shot at the president on his golf course. So I hope they get at all of these things and we get some answers here before long. But I'm glad they got this guy. Congratulations to them, Greg.
Jillian Turner
Judge Pirro said that this guy, the perp is. She described him as being low key, quiet, super into his headphones, his dog. He lives with his mom and his sisters.
Has anyone ever seen you two in the same room?
Greg Gutfeld
Nicely done. Nicely done, Jill. Look, you know what? I just want to go back to the Jake thing. You know, in his head, he was like, going, I don't know any black people named Brian. That's what he thought. Like, every Brian he knows is white, but remember. So why did Jake fall for this? This was supposed to be a white supremacy movement. So Jake was primed when this. For a white guy. It's kind of like, you know, when you drop hints for a gift that you want your spouse to get you, and you keep doing it over and over again. So she thinks it's her idea. Well, we were primed for four years by Joe Biden that there was gonna be this big white supremacy movement. There was a white supremacist under every bed. You wish. And, like, that's my way back. But anyway. And then. Are you from South Africa?
Jillian Turner
Anyway, I'm from New York City.
Harold Ford Jr.
Okay.
Greg Gutfeld
Okay.
Jesse Waters
By way of South Africa, yes.
Jillian Turner
No.
Greg Gutfeld
Anyway, anyway, I joke. Just paying you back, you know. Anyway, so I forgot my point, but I know it's important that Jake assumed something that he was trained to assume was by years and years of this white supremacy narrative. Then you find out it's a black guy, and then it makes you think, like, well, is that why they didn't chase this? Because it didn't fit a narrative? That sounds a little crazy, but it could be true. And you ask, well, why did they do anything? Well, that question could be applied to a lot of things. It's not just the pipe bomb. Think about the border. Think about crime, homelessness, and the COVID fraud in Minneapolis. That question, why did they do anything? It's not about incompetence. It can't just be about incompetence. It's that they don't solve problems if there's no political incentive. And this guy didn't help their white supremacy narrative, so they didn't look any further. It's kind of crazy all that information was there. I mean, you compare the efforts in this case to what they did on the January 6th commission. They hired producers, directors, screenwriters for something. Go ahead, Jesse.
Jesse Waters
Are you saying that the Biden people knew he was black, so they didn't arrest you?
Harold Ford Jr.
Starting to sound like Jake Tapper here.
Jillian Turner
Yes.
Harold Ford Jr.
The opposite way.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Jillian Turner
I'm not trying to, like, be the fly in the ointment, but it could have just said that he was white in the prompter and he was reading it.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, that's. Oh, you know, that's true. You're absolutely right.
Jillian Turner
Obviously not.
Harold Ford Jr.
But you know what?
Greg Gutfeld
I'm going to go back to a bigger point. Think about all the stuff you never would have ever known if it wasn't for Trump winning. Like, there's certain. Like, would we ever have. Like, we knew Biden was incapacitated, but Trump had to win for that to finally come out. We now know that the border could be solved in a weekend, because it did. I mean, it was like they were telling us this problem could never be solved, and then it was. We found out that we're finding out all this Covid scam stuff all around the country. It's crazy. We now know that trans is a scam. All this stuff would have just been buried.
Jesse Waters
We might find out the election was stolen.
Harold Ford Jr.
That was not in the prompter.
Jesse Waters
No, I said stolen.
Jillian Turner
All right.
Jesse Waters
A election. That's how Crockett does it.
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Jillian Turner
Time's up. It's Emily's turn. All right, Emily, legal question. There is conflicting reporting about whether President Trump's January 6th pardons that he issued on day one of the second term could apply to this guy. Somehow people are saying that, like if his defense team decides to argue that these pardons apply to him, he could potentially get off the hook because it's like, hey, you, we can't charge him for any of these crimes. He's already been exonerated. Not exonerated, pardoned.
Emily Compagno
Pardoned.
Jillian Turner
What do you think about that?
Emily Compagno
Well, if that's true, then this Justice Department will find a way to charge him with something else because they will not let this guy get away with it is the point. And that's the difference between this administration and the prior administration. Because yes, pardons are absolute. But unlike Biden, that says for everything that will be ever done and isn't there, that was specific by President Trump. You are absolutely right, Greg, because remember Dylann Roof's photo was all day every day on cnn, and rightly so, because he's a horrible monster. Even though it should have been the victims faces that were on CNN all day every day. This one not at all. You are right that it was a complete assumption that they ran with. And then to their horror, it's not that they were wrong, that they got a fact wrong. It's that their assumption was wrong, that it didn't fit neatly in their box the entire time that Biden was in office. Remember the top stated priority of the FBI, of the Biden White House, which was the national security threat. The number one national security threat was domestic violence extremism. Remember that? Especially after January 6th. They even created the first ever national strategy for countering domestic terrorism. It became the centerpiece of Biden's doj. Messaging was all about their homegrown terrorism, the domestic terrorism that was occurring on their soil. And the January six investigation is the largest in FBI history. The most sweeping and complex FBI investigation ever undertaken. Said right from the podium of the White House. And the officials praise the FBI for unprecedented investigative work protecting democracy. And it was one of their most talked about achievements of the Biden doj. But what happened, as the Attorney General said this Attorney General, all they did was spend four years collecting dust. And the FBI director, Keshe Patel, there was zero production of new evidence. So the whole time the Biden administration was patting themselves on the back and telling us that they had it, that this was the number one threat and to trust them. They would be thorough and complete. And yet they missed the biggest, potentially simplest. Yes, Whitey Bulger took a while. Yes, certain people take a while, but this one shouldn't have. That's the point. It took a while because of incompetence or laziness or not fitting the narrative, not because of lack of resources. As we said, it was the biggest undertaking in FBI history. Also, Jesse, I feel like in your answer, we should have been holding hands for the first half and the second.
Jillian Turner
Okay.
Harold Ford Jr.
How unfortunate would be hard to reach you too unfortunate. Would it be if he gets. Unfortunate would be if he gets pardoned because of what happened.
Jillian Turner
Coming up next, President Trump's breaking out his signature dance moves. The Village People are serenading him at the FIFA World cup draw earlier today. We're going to show you the whole thing. Stick with us.
Harold Ford Jr.
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Emily Compagno
The Village People performing the iconic YMCA with President Trump doing his signature dance as he attended the FIFA World cup draw at the Kennedy Center. 47. Mixing it up with soccer stars, celebs and world leaders for the big event. And after he renamed the Institute for Peace for himself, the president received the first FIFA Peace Prize. Trump then joined the presidents of Canada and Mexico for a draw. Watch.
Unknown Sports Commentator
When you look at what has happened to football in the United States again, soccer in the United States, we seem to never call it that because we have a little bit of a conflict with another thing that's called football. But when you think about it, shouldn't it really be called? I mean, this is football. There's no question about. We have to come up with another.
Jesse Waters
Name for the NFL. Yes.
Unknown Sports Commentator
It really doesn't make sense.
Harold Ford Jr.
Well, you have to basically mingle the balls a little bit. Mingle. And then one by one, we start with Mr. Carney.
Jesse Waters
Oh, Canada.
Unknown Sports Commentator
This is shocking.
Harold Ford Jr.
United States of America.
Emily Compagno
Harold. That's what we call a Sicilian election. What did you think of the Peace Prize and what do you think that sends? What message does it send? The symbolism to the world.
Harold Ford Jr.
Look, I could not be more excited that we're hosting this. My kids are soccer players, football players. I hope we keep calling American football, American Football. Different with the president there. But this is where the president, one of the areas that he's at its best, he enjoys this kind of promotion of the country. He enjoys sports, he knows sports. I think he relates to people as a result of it. And I know there are two youngsters named Georgia and Hef Ford who were as excited as anybody to watch the rerun of this when they got home from school today. So congrats to the president and to the presidents of Mexico and Canada. And I can't wait. We get eight games here in New York, including the finals here in New York City. So we're excited about it.
Emily Compagno
Yeah, well, actually, in Jersey, we call.
Harold Ford Jr.
It New York City. It's an extension of New York City.
Emily Compagno
Do you feel like you MetLife?
Harold Ford Jr.
MetLife, yeah.
Emily Compagno
To Harold's point, this is. It's a big deal. FIFA and soccer, like, that's a massive global industry. So the fact that they gave Trump the Peace Prize, I think, to me, it symbolizes a great deal and that kids are coming home and excited about it. Like that really does inspire generations to come, potentially. That sport is the great unifier.
Jesse Waters
I'm not a big soccer guy. I'll watch it. It's exciting when it's the World Cup. It'll be really exciting when Trump's there in a suite with prime ministers and Jordan and Elon. But, I mean, it's not. It's more of a game than a sport. I mean, you can't use your hands. I mean, come on, you know. You know, Harold, you don't have to pretend. It's fine. It's a big day. And you know what? He had a great pick. We now, the United States are in a bracket with Paraguay and Australia and whatever team wins to play. We've both beaten these teams twice in the last two months. I'm not going to jinx this World cup, but I have a feeling we're going to win.
Harold Ford Jr.
Red wave. Kind of.
Jesse Waters
Did I just jinx it? I just jinxed. Please stop. I just jinxed it. I'm sorry. But it is. You know, it's like you get the UFC at the White House, you get the Olympics in Los Angeles, and now you get the World Cup. It's almost like God gave us Covid to kick Trump out so he could reemerge again and oversee this wonderful four years of birthday parties, international sporting events, and octagon. It's.
If you doubted there was a God.
This is evidence there is God.
Emily Compagno
Okay, Julian.
Jesse Waters
Nonbeliever.
Jillian Turner
No.
Jesse Waters
Non believer. Non believer.
Emily Compagno
No, I strenuously object, Gillian, but, yes, it is amazing. We have these really exciting things coming on the horizon. I can even respond to that.
Jillian Turner
I feel like I'm not trying to be a downer, but the president.
Harold Ford Jr.
Never You.
Jillian Turner
I would never. The President still wants the Nobel Peace Prize, and he still has three more years to get it. So I don't know that the President of FIFA, Johnny Infantino, making up this new prize so he could give it to him because he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize this year is helping the cause. That's all I'm going to say.
Emily Compagno
Doesn't that sound like a neighborhood wise guy like Johnny and Vinzano? Johnny gave me the prize, so I don't need another one.
Greg Gutfeld
So, I mean, a little background. In Europe, they call it football. In the United States, they call it soccer. Everywhere else they call it homosexuality, which we know is a tasteful sin against. It is a sin against God.
Anyway, I just don't want to keep saying FIFA. It's a silly word. I don't know what it stands for. I love that Trump named the Institute of Peace after himself. It's a win win situation.
Jillian Turner
I wish you thought of it first.
Greg Gutfeld
I wish I have. Stop interrupting me. But it's great because the Demps were so ticked off that he was cutting funding. Now do they fight to keep it open if it's named after him? See, it's what we call win win. And I also love that the Peace Prize from FIFA, it didn't go to, like, Greta Thunberg or some silly little.
Jillian Turner
Peace because it was created for the President.
Greg Gutfeld
That's. You got. What's your beef with this?
Jillian Turner
I was saying there were no other.
Greg Gutfeld
Candidates, so it wasn't like, what's your point? Do you wish that it went to Amnesty International or to Greenpeace?
Jillian Turner
I don't understand why FIFA needs a better.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, I'll tell you why.
Jesse Waters
Because they're kissing his butt.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Jesse Waters
He's hosting the game.
Jillian Turner
Right.
Greg Gutfeld
And by the way, let me ask you this. Who deserves a Peace Prize?
Jillian Turner
No, you're deserves a Peace Prize. I'm getting into this with you.
Greg Gutfeld
No, you. You started it with me.
Harold Ford Jr.
This is not about three conversations here. We got another.
Greg Gutfeld
I want. Look, he is going around the world basically brokering peace. Why shouldn't he get a Peace Prize? Not that I really care.
Jillian Turner
I didn't say he didn't deserve it. I said it's not.
Greg Gutfeld
Why do you hate President Trump?
Jillian Turner
Get the Nobel Peace Prize. That was my point.
Harold Ford Jr.
Bless.
Jillian Turner
That was my free expert advice.
Emily Compagno
It's sort of like Johnny and Fentino, Shoes of Peace. And it's like the cleats of peace. That's what I was thinking. All right, fine. Don't go anywhere, guys. Stephen A. Smith, throwing down with Whoopi Goldberg.
Jesse Waters
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Stephen A. Smith, opening a can of whoop. You know what? On Whoopi Goldberg arguing Democrats should focus on affordability and ditch the cultural crap.
Jillian Turner
It was important, I think, for Democrats.
Greg Gutfeld
To show that they stood with the.
Jillian Turner
LGBT community, that they stood with black women and women in general. Because once you let us go, once you let women and poor people go.
Jesse Waters
Okay, what do you have?
Stephen A. Smith
I understand the LGBTQ community is important. I understand that the desolate and disenfranchised is somebody we should always be looking out for. I understand the economy. I understand immigration.
Harold Ford Jr.
I get all of that.
Stephen A. Smith
But the point is I'm trying to win, to make sure that I'm in office and you're not. What is it going to take? The Democrats did not do that last night.
Greg Gutfeld
What is the winning issue now?
Stephen A. Smith
Affordability and safety.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes. Period.
Jesse Waters
All right, Jillian, let's go to you now because you didn't really talk that much. The last segment is Stephen A. Right.
Jillian Turner
I don't think that it's smart for the Democrats to go after Trump with a slogan that they filched from his campaign. Maa, Make America affordable. Affordable. Maa, Make America affordable again. I do think it's smart for them to go after him on the economy right now at this moment in time. It's a weakness for him. He won election in large part based on the economy. But the polls show, you know, the Fox News polls that came out a couple of weeks ago showed that I think it was more than 75% of Americans are not happy with how he's handling the economy. So, like, he's right. You should go after that. They did not win on the cultural issues that Democrats have traditionally had success with. And by the way, Whoopi Goldberg is saying what happens when women and poor people leave the Democratic Party? But they already left in the last election cycle. That was in large part why President Trump won, so I'm not sure what.
Greg Gutfeld
She'S talking about, Greg. Well, thank you for asking me. No question. Okay.
Jesse Waters
We're tight on time.
Greg Gutfeld
This debate is dishonest, okay? When they're talking culture, they aren't talking about lgb. They're not talking about black women. They're talking about the T. And so what happens is this whole culture thing is about being compelled to give preferential treatment to predatory males in female spaces. What happens is Whoopi pulls a bait and switch and says it's about the LGBT and black women. That's not where the fight is. I mean, she should know better, given the fact that. What's her name? Tish Hyman. An actual black woman. She should have, like, Whoopi should have been with Tish Hyman after she was harassed by that predatory male in the locker room at Planet Fitness or wherever it was. Instead, she's like, she's doing this group thing, this identity soup. She say, but the cultural conflict has nothing to do with gays, has nothing to do with lesbians, has nothing to do with black women. It has to do with allowing men to exploit and victimize women and kids under the auspices of being a victim themselves. This could have been a watershed moment. Smith could have said, I'm talking about trans. She could have said, well, I don't know what to say, you know, but it's like she has. She should have been. She should have.
Harold Ford Jr.
The view.
Greg Gutfeld
Should have. Tish Hyman on.
Jesse Waters
Yes, got it. I will say something nice, Emily, about the view.
Emily Compagno
You don't have to. For my.
Jesse Waters
I want to. I want to. They have great Christmas decor.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. That's overwhelming.
Jesse Waters
That is that they. They. Christmas loves the view. I mean, I feel like they outdid us with their decorations. Look at that.
Greg Gutfeld
You know why, though?
Emily Compagno
Caribou in here. We have a whole.
Jesse Waters
Where's the caribou?
Jillian Turner
But I think most of that's like a Nexio. It's not real.
Jesse Waters
Oh, that's fake.
Jillian Turner
I think so. I have to look at it more.
Emily Compagno
Go with the reindeer.
Greg Gutfeld
The only place where Santa feels we.
Jillian Turner
Have more real Christmas trees than anybody.
Jesse Waters
I think you talked over Greg again. It was funny, Greg. Say it again.
Greg Gutfeld
I know. You only get one.
Jesse Waters
I was so good, Emily.
Emily Compagno
All right. I feel like he pushed into the spotlight the contradiction that the Democrat Party has among many, which is that they have this base that once everything about cultural validation, but by the same mouth. And when they go to the ballot box, then they are all about only affordability. The fallacy among many was when Whoopi Goldberg talked about how this administration or in the election, you know, we ignored black people and people of color and the poor. But Donald Trump's policies, the whole point is it lifts everyone. So when then Sonny said, well, what's the number one issue? He said, affordability and safety. The whole point is that doesn't matter what your skin color is. That doesn't actually matter anything. So these guys are still arguing about only these immutable characteristics when they're failing to see the larger picture, which is under the current administration, yes, the widows and the orphans and everyone will be absolutely taken care of too, because when you make everything more affordable and lower costs and lower regulations, everyone wins, not just the trans who should for edging out the women have something, have a different consequence for them. And I really loved his sports analogy where he was like, the whole point is you can love the team and love the fan base, but if you don't win, it doesn't mean anything. But they're putting the cart before the horse.
Harold Ford Jr.
Look, he's right. And I think that one of the things he being Stephen A. Smith, is right, but both of them can be right. You have to win to be able to do these things. And that's what Stephen A. Is saying. Emily, this last election, four weeks ago, Democrats focused on the issues that were most prevalent and most prominent on people's minds, that being the cost of things. And that's why Democrats won all across the country and up and down the ballot. The number one issue for the American workers. What's going to happen over the next 12 to 36 months with the advent of AI it's certainly going to produce efficiencies, but it's going to dislocate workers. Where is our plan on that? Why aren't we talking about easing permitting rules, easing regulations to build houses? That's the number one problem facing young people in the country as they think about their future. We've talked about crime. President Trump has signed executive orders, We've talked around this table, and my friend Greg Gutfeld's agreed. We need a federal crime bill. Why not do that? Democrats talk about lifting tariffs on every food item to help lower grocery costs instead of some of the things that we focus on. Were you right, Emily? If we focus on the cultural issues again, if we don't take the lesson from four weeks ago and focus on everyday cost economic issues, we'll find ourselves losing like we did in 24. If we focus on what voters, what voters want and what voters are anxious to hear us give answers to. We've got a fighting chance to win. So I agree with Stephen A.
Emily Compagno
But we did in the 9th cabinet. Not we. The 9th cabinet meeting that was just held. That was televised. They talked about that.
Harold Ford Jr.
You mean President Trump.
Emily Compagno
Yes. That's why I take back we. I wasn't there. I was there in spirit. But the cabinet members talked about specifically that they were the ones they said combating what the prior administration had done to them. What we inherited that it's going to take a while to like build up.
Greg Gutfeld
Cutting into fan mail.
Harold Ford Jr.
I'm ever elected president. I will not blame George Washington for anything. You, you can't keep blaming everybody for. You got to. You got to.
Jillian Turner
Usually we're almost a year in like.
Harold Ford Jr.
How long Don George Washington guys.
Jesse Waters
But don't forget the View doesn't have an all American Christmas tree right there. It is the fastest. Up next.
Emily Compagno
Really got a hold on me really got.
Jesse Waters
A hold on me.
Harold Ford Jr.
I'm putting with Abe link.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Welcome back. Is brain rot real Studies are finding associations between heavy consumption of short form video listen hep forward and challenges with focus and self control.
Greg, you find that this is something your deep deep study about culture and society daily that you. This is coming up Epstein.
Jesse Waters
Is it Hume?
Greg Gutfeld
This is my Jeffrey Epstein impression. You know it's not brain rot. It's the evolution of information. It's evolving and we're just developing interfaces for information. We look at this backwards that it's actually like oh, these interfaces, computers and phones that is manipulating the information. No, it's the opposite. The information is going ooh, let's make humans create other things for us so they can come out and mess with our heads. And we love it.
Jillian Turner
I have no idea what you just said.
Greg Gutfeld
That's all right, Jillian.
Jillian Turner
I don't understand what that means.
Harold Ford Jr.
Jillian, you have a different take perhaps?
Jillian Turner
I think brain rot is real. I mean haven't you ever been scrolling and watching videos on social media or YouTube or wherever and it's like you literally start to feel sick and you have to put it away.
Greg Gutfeld
Were you scrolling water's world?
Jillian Turner
You have to like Obviously.
Jesse Waters
It'S called Jesse Waters Prime Time.
Jillian Turner
You, like, start feeling like I met the old ones. Irritable. And you're like going faster. And you're like, I need to get off of this now. And you put it aside. That's brain rot, right? We're talking about something else.
Greg Gutfeld
You should immediately pull over.
Harold Ford Jr.
Your name was invoked, Mr.
Jesse Waters
Waters, your thoughts on this? I hate to say it, but I do agree with Jillian. I don't know what the hell Greg's talking about. My children, like, if you watch a story, like a movie, okay, or even a show, they will be pleasant and they'll sit there and they'll be entertained. But if you put this kid with one of those YouTube shorts, things fries their brain and they become monsters. I mean, we have evidence that this is true. I don't know what kind of porn that you watch, Jillian, but, you know, you need to get help, Emily, on that segue.
Harold Ford Jr.
What are your thoughts about this topic?
Emily Compagno
Yeah, I totally believe in brain rot. Remember when you've seen like commercials or MRI images of people who, you know, abuse drugs and you can see that their brain literally has. Is mush?
Jillian Turner
In part.
Emily Compagno
We know that decision making and routines create rivulets and neural pathways in our brains. That's how you can overcome and create new habits and new good decision making. Right. You do that for 30 days, so. Absolutely. That's why sugar has a big input like all of these things.
Jillian Turner
30 days, you could be.
Emily Compagno
All right again, physiological impact on our brains. And that's also why when people give these things to their children during their developmental stage, including an up to puberty, it's frightening to me. Like, yes, brain rot is real. Very real. And we are seeing it present in kids and adults and entire generations.
Harold Ford Jr.
It has long term implications of withdrawal and isolationism. We make light of this. We should not have. I understood exactly what you were saying.
Jillian Turner
Greg has it.
Harold Ford Jr.
Greg, you were actually making serious. This is a serious issue. And I hope that parents. My wife certainly polices it in my house. Fan mail Friday.
Emily Compagno
Nice.
Jillian Turner
Lame.
Jesse Waters
He doesn't care if you're in Ch.
Greg Gutfeld
You know, every Christmas we get.
All right, first question for fan mail. Are you a good secret keeper.
Harold?
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
You are?
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
Okay. That's it then.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
Don't want to share anything with us, Jillian?
Jillian Turner
Only for people that I like.
Greg Gutfeld
Really?
Emily Compagno
Oh, Greg, tell her nothing.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes. What about you, Emma?
Harold Ford Jr.
Greg, tell her nothing.
Jillian Turner
Yes.
Emily Compagno
Unless it's my own secret in the gift department. So if you tell me something, I will tell no one. I'm A vault. But if I have a secret about you, like a gift I got you, I cannot keep. I can't keep it to myself.
Jesse Waters
I'm a great secret keeper. I've never told anybody you're gay.
Greg Gutfeld
I am a terrible secret keeper. I feel the urge, like if. Don't tell me anything because I will never again. I can actually feel it coming out. Do you know what? Come on. Whenever you have gossip, you actually feel it crawling out of your mouth.
Jesse Waters
This is the last time I share anything.
Emily Compagno
That's a demon.
Jillian Turner
Everybody already knows that about you.
Greg Gutfeld
All right. What's the weirdest thing that ever happened to you on one of your friends flights? Emily, come to me first on this.
Emily Compagno
I have to think about this. Weird. Let me think about this for a second.
Jillian Turner
Okay.
Greg Gutfeld
How about you, Gillian? Do you take the plane often? The thing in the sky.
Harold Ford Jr.
The weirdest thing on a flight.
Emily Compagno
Weirdest.
Jillian Turner
A long. I don't know if this is weird, but, like, a long time ago, like when I was in my 20s.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Jillian Turner
I was sitting next to a guy and his mom on a domestic flight. And the mom told him that he should ask me out in front of me.
Stephen A. Smith
Wow.
Jillian Turner
And then he did. That's weird, right?
Greg Gutfeld
No, it's weird because the kid was 6.
Jesse Waters
What did you say?
Greg Gutfeld
They're married now or.
Jillian Turner
No, that's Dana. That's Dana. That's not me. Dana met her husband on an airplane.
Greg Gutfeld
I never heard that story.
Jesse Waters
Jesse Gayle King.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, that's right. That's pretty weird. Yeah, that was weird. Of all people, you guys hooked up.
Jillian Turner
What's even weirder is that she liked you and was talking to you. And like, she looks so happy to be sitting next to you.
Jesse Waters
Well, yeah, that was weird.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. Harold.
Harold Ford Jr.
I sat once. I sat in the back of the plane, the last row.
Jesse Waters
We changed those rules a long time ago.
Harold Ford Jr.
And I was near the bathroom and I literally was asleep. And I woke up and there was this guy sitting in the middle seat. He had fallen asleep. I had the whole world by myself. And I wake. I said, what are you doing? He goes, oh, my gosh. I was waiting to use the bathroom. It's finally open. So that was the weirdest thing.
Jesse Waters
That is weird.
Harold Ford Jr.
But they have changed those rules.
Jesse Waters
Thank God. Thank God.
Emily Compagno
Okay. I thought of it. I don't really know if it's weird per se, but I was in a small plane that my friend's family owned, like the tiny little whatever. And the tire burst upon landing. So we got stuck there and blocked the Runway. And then they had to shut down the Runway for quite a while because obviously confined with FAA regulations or whatever. And so that was a little, like, frightening because we felt it when we landed. I don't know if that's weird, but that's, like, interesting.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, yeah. That was neither.
God, I have so many. One time I was flying on Air India and I was. It was a crowded flight and I woke up hours later and nobody was sitting next to me. I never know why they moved. Is that weird? I don't believe that One More Thing is up next. No, that really happened opposite.
Jillian Turner
All right, it's time for One More Thing. Greg, you can go first. Jesse can't get a turn tonight.
Greg Gutfeld
Thanks, Janet. All right, tonight we have Kat, Tim, Tyrus, Todd Pyro, Mike Baker. Wow, that's a Friday night. Let's do this. Greg. Sexy bear news. You know, it may be winter time, but that might be the time to heat things up. If you're a massive bear, check out this fella. Oh, yeah, he's living his best life. Massive reds and bear. Enjoying the 8 inches snowfall in Chicago. Yeah, 8 inches felt like 5. But making snow angels into sheets of snow, rolling around barely legal.
Jillian Turner
I can't. I'm so mortified that I thought that was funny.
Jesse Waters
All right, you want to help me out here, Julian? I'll just go. I'll take the lead here. You just sit back and look pretty. We caught something on video in Minnesota. I'm not talking about a Somalian stealing our money. This is a double rainbow. But the rainbow is upside down. Double upside down rainbow. I'm not high. I swear to God. Tonight, Jesse Waters primetime new details on the J6 pipe bomber. Not only does he have short legs.
Jillian Turner
Nope.
Greg Gutfeld
Who's this white guy?
Jesse Waters
Calm down, Jake.
Jillian Turner
I knew that you should not have a turn. All right, Harold.
Harold Ford Jr.
Very different track I'm going on here. There's a rescue in West Virginia. As we get ready to go on a Christmas holiday, she remind us all how the human spirit is. At 6:25am a little before this semi truck veered off, it's hanging in the air by 100ft. The rescue workers showed up. He dangled like that for hours before they hoisted him to the safety. Look at that truck. And it took these first responders to get him off of there. And they risked their lives. So God bless them. And God bless that truck driver.
Greg Gutfeld
Thanks to Vicki Flora.
Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you, Vicki. Yes, thank you, Vicki.
Jesse Waters
How much should we pay him?
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Jesse Waters
Have a great night.
Jillian Turner
Oh, I'm next. Okay, super quick. Take a look. At this. An employee at this Australian tow truck company did this prank. That is a gigantic foam roast chicken.
Jesse Waters
That's awesome.
Jillian Turner
He took one of the trucks in the fleet out, put the chicken in, and then he somehow edited the CCTV footage so that it was like, boom, boom, boom, boom. It was like, chicken car, chicken car, chicken car. So anyone who saw it was really confused.
Jesse Waters
That's like what Jim used to do with Dwight with his stapler. Remember, he put it in jello. You know, you guys give Emily.
Emily Compagno
This is awesome. So Ed Bombas, 88 years old. He lost his pension after General Motors 1.7 million has been raised to support this incredible veteran who needs our help and love and Support.
Harold Ford Jr.
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Date: December 6, 2025
Host & Panel: Jillian Turner, Emily Compagno, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld
Podcast: FOX News Podcasts
This episode centers on the long-awaited arrest and court appearance of Brian Cole Jr., the D.C. pipe bomb suspect from 2021. Five years after the explosive devices were found near the DNC and RNC, the hosts dissect the investigation timeline, criticize law enforcement and media missteps, and debate potential political motivations and narratives surrounding the case. Additional segments touch on Trump's FIFA Peace Prize, current political debate, cultural issues, social media “brain rot,” and lighter fan Q&A.
On investigation delays:
"I don't know what the hell this prior leadership team was doing outside of, you know, targeting political opponents, weaponizing the FBI, destroying its reputation, embarrassing agents." – Harold Ford Jr. (03:10)
Media Missteps:
"In his head, he was like, going, 'I don't know any black people named Brian.' That's what he thought. Like, every Brian he knows is white..." – Greg Gutfeld (11:13)
On Political Spin:
"This guy didn’t help their white supremacy narrative, so they didn’t look any further. It’s kind of crazy all that information was there." – Greg Gutfeld (12:15)
Panel Chemistry:
"You just sit back and look pretty." – Jesse Watters to Jillian Turner (41:03, jokingly during "One More Thing")
This episode is particularly rich in political analysis, media critique, and culture war references, balanced with the trademark humor and debate that defines "The Five." Listeners are given a comprehensive look at the D.C. pipe bomb case’s twists, questions about investigative priorities and media reporting, and a wide-ranging view on how culture and politics intersect in current American discourse.