Platner Denies New Disturbing Allegations

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five

Episode: Platner Denies New Disturbing Allegations
Date: June 5, 2026
Host: Kayleigh McEnany
Panel: Charlie Kirk, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld

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Overview

This episode centers on escalating scandals surrounding Graham Platner, a Democratic Senate candidate from Maine. The panel debates the impact of serious allegations—ranging from abuse to dishonesty—on the campaign and how Democrats are responding. The episode pivots from Platner's saga to snarky analysis of Democratic 2028 presidential hopefuls, commentary on a viral protest with laxative-laced brownies, and critiques of Hollywood’s take on American politics.

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Main Discussion: The Graham Platner Scandals

Panel Breakdown of Allegations

00:05 – 03:12

• Kayleigh McEnany opens by highlighting new allegations against Platner, including:
  • Verbal and physical abuse of ex-girlfriends
  • Heavy drinking
  • Lying about a Nazi tattoo
  • Inconsistent responses to sexting and other incidents
• Charlie Kirk (as Platner): “Anything alleging physicality, anything alleging that I knew what my tattoo was. These are the statements of someone who's politically motivated.” [00:52]
• Greg Gutfeld presses on Platner allegedly knowing the age of women involved: “How does she know it's a Nazi tattoo in August of last year and you don't know?” [01:16]

Contrast with Kavanaugh Hearings

• The panel accuses Democrats of hypocrisy, pointing out their different responses to allegations against Brett Kavanaugh during his Supreme Court confirmation:
  • Kayleigh McEnany: “Do we believe women? I believe Dr. Ford.” [01:59]
  • Jesse Watters: “The men of this country just shut up and step up.” [02:07]

Media and Democratic Response

• Jessica Tarlov notes she hasn’t fully read the NYT article but intends to do so.
• Jesse Watters alleges a “catch and kill” operation by the NYT and questions the integrity of their reporting, noting missing corroborating voices:
  • "She comes forward, provides all this evidence, and then opens up the paper and it's mostly about her… These two other women were somehow left out of the story, yet still exist.” [03:14]
  • “This is now a race to the bottom. And I don't want to hear anything else from the Democrats... I have a challenge—name one redeeming quality about Graham Platner.” [05:20]
• Kayleigh McEnany: “He is going to keep Democrats from taking the majority in the Senate. And that is a political fact.” [05:48]

Polls and Impact on the Race

05:48 – 06:40

• Jessica Tarlov describes Maine voters as less “terminally online,” suggesting race outcomes are unpredictable and reiterating that Platner’s platform still resonates with some working-class voters.

Nuanced Panel Debate: Corroboration, Motives, and #MeToo

06:40 – 09:42

• Jessica Tarlov: Points out the lack of corroboration in the NYT piece and defends nuance:
  • “There are six women that they interviewed. Four said he was a good boyfriend. Two said he wasn't... That's really serious stuff...” [08:02]
  • “We're obviously past the MeToo era of believe all women. I think that it was problematic then…” [08:18]
• She also accuses Republicans of hypocrisy and notes both political parties’ struggles to police their own.

Male Toxicity & Progressive “Blind Spots”

09:43 – 13:16

• Greg Gutfeld critiques rhetorical shifts, arguing that Democrats are willing to downplay “toxic masculinity” if it serves a progressive narrative:
  • “And then you get the very apex of toxic masculinity. Nazism. Physical abuse, mental abuse, recklessness, drunkenness. And suddenly the rhetoric dissolves...” [10:03]
• Gutfeld and Kirk both point to Platner’s lack of friends—including from the military—as a red flag.

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Segment Two: 2028 Dem Fight & Hunter Biden Redemption Arc

15:24 – 22:09

Kamala Harris vs. Gavin Newsom

• Charlie Kirk, Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld react to a Wall Street Journal piece anticipating a “murder-suicide” Democratic primary between Harris and Newsom.
• Kayleigh McEnany: “We are about to witness a murder suicide on a debate stage in two short years in the Democratic Party. And the dark night—not Hunter Biden—the Dark Knight is AOC.” [21:58]

Hunter Biden’s Redemption

• Greg Gutfeld offers a rare, semi-sincere defense: “Hunter number one is the reverse of Platner... We know everything about him. We've seen him at his worst. It's all out there but Platner, it just keeps unfolding.” [18:12]
• Charlie Kirk: “He is a gun enthusiast, which is a plus.” [20:17]

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Segment Three: Richard Gere’s Trump Comments

24:19 – 29:12

Hollywood “TDS”

• The panel lampoons Richard Gere for calling America’s current state “the darkest moment I've experienced on this planet” while abroad in Norway.
  • Greg Gutfeld: “A Buddhist would say hatred is never appeased by hatred... That's what they would call hatred. We forget. See, he forgets his own practice.” [25:16]
• Panelists ridicule Gere’s career and claim his hyperbole undermines serious historic moments (JFK, MLK assassinations, 9/11).

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Segment Four: Viral Laxative-Brownie Protest

30:34 – 33:33

• A Nantucket woman used laxative-laced brownies to protest “forever chemicals” in a turf field proposal. Reactions:
  • Charlie Kirk: “That's tantamount to like putting rat poison in brownies and giving it to them.” [31:16]
  • Greg Gutfeld: “She might have just invented an amazing new snack... a delicious dessert treat that eases constipation and satisfies your sweet tooth.” [31:34]
  • Jesse Watters asks, “Is it a crime?” and decides no, “it’s just like a little bit of a prank.” [33:08]

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Fan Mail Friday & One More Thing

34:26 – 41:08

• Worst Advice Ever Given
  • Charlie Kirk: “Just be yourself.” [34:36]
  • Jesse Watters: “My dad told me... not to put any money from my paycheck into my 401k.” [35:28]
  • Kayleigh McEnany/Jessica Tarlov: On the importance of self-advocacy for women. [36:01]
• Nostalgic Memories
  • Panelists reminisce about childhood, communism, family cars, and more colorful memories.
• Greg’s “Sexy Zebra News” and trivia about animal anatomy.
• National Donut Day celebrated with playful banter and donut choices.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jesse Watters: “The Dems are now backing a communist nipple Nazi who's roughed women up and lives off mommy and daddy...” [04:39]
• Jessica Tarlov: “We're obviously past the MeToo era of believe all women. I think that it was problematic then…” [08:18]
• Greg Gutfeld: “Any guy, any real guy, Republican, libertarian, anarchist, would avoid this guy at a bar. He gives you the creep vibes, just the way Swalwell did.” [11:22]
• Kayleigh McEnany (on Kamala & Newsom): “We are about to witness a murder suicide on a debate stage in two short years in the Democratic Party.” [21:58]
• Greg Gutfeld: “Hunter number one is the reverse of Platner and the reverse of Gavin Newsom. We know everything about him. We've seen him at his worst.” [18:12]
• Charlie Kirk: “He got married in 2023 and immediately began cheating on his wife... the fact that he is a stone cold liar is a very significant part of all of this.” [13:32]
• Greg Gutfeld (on Richard Gere): “A Buddhist would say that hatred is never appeased by hatred. It is only appeased by non hatred. It is like taking poison, hoping that you would kill somebody else.” [25:16]
• Kayleigh McEnany (on old advice): “You have to pitch yourself. So you agree and. No, I think as a woman, don't ask for what you know you deserve.” [36:08]
• Greg Gutfeld (on dreams): “Don't follow your dreams. Just work and your dreams will find you.” [36:46]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Platner Allegations Unpacked – 00:05–06:40
• Media Coverage & NYT Critique – 03:14–06:40
• Jessica Tarlov’s Nuanced Take – 06:40–09:42
• Toxic Masculinity & Hypocrisy – 09:43–13:16
• 2028 Dem Battle & Hunter Biden – 15:24–22:09
• Hollywood TDS/Richard Gere – 24:19–29:12
• Laxative Brownie Protest – 30:34–33:33
• Fan Mail Friday/Donuts/Nostalgia – 34:26–39:46
• One More Thing/Silly Segment – 38:30–41:08

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Conclusion

This episode is a fast-paced, fiery dissection of political scandal, hypocrisy, and media narratives, punctuated by playful interludes. The panel consistently amps up the partisanship while sneaking in moments of humor, pop culture, and personal stories, maintaining The Five's signature tone—irreverent, combative, and opinionated.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

The roads.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Hello, everyone. I'm Kayleigh McEnany along with Charlie, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Well, it's denied. Deflect and look the other way for Democrats as new disturbing Graham Platner scandals rock the main Senate race. Just before the primary next Tuesday, several of Platner's ex girlfriends stepping forward with scathing allegations in the New York Times alleging volatile behavior, including verbal disparagement, heavy drinking, physical abuse, and that Platner knew the meaning of his Nazi tattoo long before he claimed he did. But the scandal plague candidate is trying to weather the storm by running to the friendly terrain of msnl.

[Charlie Kirk]

Anything alleging physicality, anything alleging that I knew what my tattoo was. These are the statements of someone who's politically motivated.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Texts of yours, pictures of yours floating around out there.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm not worried about it. And you have that, that you confirmed

[Greg Gutfeld]

that you knew their age?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. Oh, God. I mean, yes, of course.

[Greg Gutfeld]

How does she know it's a Nazi tattoo in August of last year and you don't know it's not Nazi tattoo in August of last year?

[Charlie Kirk]

I will say that I certainly didn't know.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Many Democrats are turning a blind eye to the avalanche of accusations. Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse says he's not impressed. Quote, seems like a lot of nothing. I mean, the only one who had anything to say that seemed unsettling was a woman who works for right wing political operations. That's a far cry from the way that the senator and many other Democrats treated a sexual misconduct allegation against Brett Kavanaugh during his Supreme Court confirmation.

[Greg Gutfeld]

For too long, women have made serious allegations of abuse and have been ignored

[Charlie Kirk]

or dragged through the mud.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Do we believe women? I believe Dr. Ford.

[Jesse Watters]

I believe her.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Calling her some kind of political operative.

[Jesse Watters]

The men of this country just shut

[Charlie Kirk]

up and step up.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Do the right thing for a change.

[Charlie Kirk]

Have you? I don't know if it's boofed or boofed. How do you pronounce that? That refers to flatulence. We were 16.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But bring in all the victims, Allow

[Charlie Kirk]

them to be heard.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Now, despite the moral outrage over uncorroborated. Uncorroborated, excuse me, accusations against Kavanaugh. Democrats either have nothing to say about Platner or worse, look the other way.

[Jesse Watters]

What's your response to this New York Times article on Graham Platner?

[Jessica Tarlov]

This all kind of just came out.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I've been doing legislative business on the

[Jessica Tarlov]

floor, so I need to dig into everything flavor before commenting on it.

[Charlie Kirk]

We got a guy who he could

[Greg Gutfeld]

be a hundred times more up than he is.

[Charlie Kirk]

He'd never be as up as what

[Jesse Watters]

we got in Washington now.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Anyway, Jesse, we're about to find out how depraved Democrat elected officials are. The Nazi tattoo was not enough. The kick profile not enough. Now allegations of pressing a woman's shoulder, leaving marks and getting physical.

[Jesse Watters]

I don't really know much about the story. I haven't been following it.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Good AOC impression.

[Jesse Watters]

The story that's emerging is this looks like a catch and kill with the Times. And the Nazi, one of the exes said that she was persuaded by these two Times reporters to come forward on the record because there were two other women who claimed they were sexually assaulted by Graham. So she comes forward, provides all this evidence, and then opens up the paper and it's mostly about her. Meanwhile, these two other women were somehow left out of the story, yet still exist. And then she also said when the Times is like, well, you know, there's really no corroboration. She's like, no, I gave you corroboration. I gave you this. Gave you this. I even told you my friends were willing to talk to the Times to tell you at the time I told you that I was abused. They didn't put that in there. So this guy now is basically a serial liar. He lied about the tattoo that has been confirmed. The sexting case that broke days ago. On the first day he said it's not true. And then he goes on MSNBC and says, yeah, it's true. And now he says he never got rough with women. Now this is a guy who was a raging drunk and a drug addict. Sure, he's got a great memory there. This is a guy who says he wants to rape a guy, not in a gay way, just to exert power, you know. This is a guy who said he went to serve because he liked killing. This is not a guy that you believe. The Dems are now backing a communist nipple Nazi who's roughed women up and lives off mommy and daddy. He's never had a real job. He lives on disability. This guy said a purple heart recipient deserved to die. He said rural Mainers are stupid. Emmerfers, how low can you go? This is now a race to the bottom. And I don't want to hear anything else from the Democrats. I don't want to hear misogynist, Nazi, toxic masculinity, racist. It's over. You guys are cooked. I have a challenge right now name one redeeming quality about Graham Platner.

[Charlie Kirk]

Name one.

[Jesse Watters]

Does he volunteer to help children? Is he a good son? No, he's a slob. Yeah, he's. Is he a good husband? No. Is he a good businessman? No. Like, has this guy done anything since getting out of the military that says, you know what? He really, he's a good guy to put in the Senate for the people of man? So far I've heard nothing.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I have one redeeming quality. He is going to keep Democrats from taking the majority in the Senate. And that is a political fact. Jessica, when you look at the Tony Fabrizio poll that he gave to Politico before this broke, it is now tied. And we know Susan Collins typically out does polling by 8 or 9%. And his unfavorables, just to quote it, Graham Platner's image had cratered with his unfavorables nearly doubling before this piece came out. So are you ready to let this guy keep you guys from making any run at the Senate majority?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, the thing is it's not up to me and it's not up to anyone sitting at this table. We're sitting here in an air conditioned studio in New York City and the people of Maine who are, by the way, not terminally online, might have a different opinion of it. We'll see what happens in the primary. And then there are still about three weeks, four weeks when he could be

[Kayleigh McEnany]

replaced if Democrats in Maine be clear about that. So we'll find out if Democrats in Maine like Nazi tattoos.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay. Jesse says, I haven't heard anything that's redeeming about him. What people have heard that they like is his platform. They've heard him talking about making sure that working class people can have a better quality of life. They've heard him talking about Medicare for all, that we all deserve decent health care. These are things that are resonating across the country in Democratic and in Republican districts. The article was deeply disturbing to me. I think that anyone sitting there and saying outright without even hearing from Lindsey Fifield or the other women who she says have corroborating stories, there are multiple of her friends who have posted online. I know about this. Right. We were friends with her when she was going out with Graham. That should have been included in this. And I think the New York Times actually did Graham Platner's and his campaign a disservice. And also the women who came forward for it. So there are six women that they interviewed. Four said he was a good boyfriend Two said he wasn't one. Including this accusation of an arm behind her back and being forced into a bedroom and that she spent the night in there. She basically cried herself to sleep and then was able to come out in the morning. That's really serious stuff. And you look insane if you're just outright saying I don't consider this to be a real thing. We're obviously past the MeToo era of believe all women. I think that it was problematic. Then we talked about this, that there was the same conversation about Harvey Weinstein as Al Franken. I mean we lost one of our best senators over a photo of him just holding his hands over a woman. I mean utterly ridiculous. But they also did a disservice putting this woman out there essentially on her own when there is an argument which is being made and taken very seriously by people that this could be politically motivated. This woman does work for Republican organizations, Heritage Independent Women. She was one of the founders of a group called Ladies for Kavanaugh. That people see that and they think this is the only woman they got to go on the record about this. And they couldn't get corroborating evidence. And the New York Times has doubled down on this and they're saying what's going on here. They're also saying, and I agree with this, we may need to police our own party like we did with Eric Swalwell, but we will not be lectured by the party of Donald Trump or Ken Paxton. There's a Republican congressman as Max Miller who's accused of putting boiling water on his wife. Oh, like potatoes about it.

[Jesse Watters]

Like potatoes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And Katie Porter bombed in the California gubernatorial race. Don't do that. Amy Walter from Cook Political Report. This is what really matters. The winner of the main Senate race will not be determined by those on this platform. About Twitter, that's us young folks in Portland or Democratic primary voters. How old are white women who live in Kennebec or York City will determine it. And that's the truth of this. We'll look at what happens Tuesday and then we'll see what the ensuing few weeks have to say about it. I expect that there will be more, but at this point it's not up to us.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I'm so glad to be in an air conditioned studio. I didn't know that it obscures my view of a Nazi that might somehow my opinion, somehow some of my opinion, my opinion means less about a guy with a Nazi tattoo. Cuz I'm in an air conditioned.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But you don't vote for him is my point.

[Jesse Watters]

We don't. We talk about races all over the country.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jessica, by the way. Okay, Jesse hits one of the key points here. We have been lectured by your party about toxic masculinity for years, Even examples of chivalry, whether it was opening a door. Is this really, you know, a sign of some kind of male patronage or whatever, Patriarchal action? And then you get the very apex of toxic masculinity. Nazism. Physical abuse, mental abuse, recklessness, drunkenness. And suddenly the rhetoric dissolves, and it's more about this rugged man struggling through a dark period, as if giving his bad behavior a chapter heading kind of makes it less repugnant. How long is this dark period, Jessica? But I know it doesn't matter. We're not voting. It's not up for us to say. I just have a question. Is he a toxic male or not? Is he a toxic male?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I find him to be toxic.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay, good. That's good. Then you should. Then you should judge it and say, I think it's disgusting.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Did you hear what I just said for three minutes?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I heard it buried in a lot of what about isms? And you can't lecture. Oh, we can lecture you. And we will lecture it, because this is an insult to all men. They prop this guy up as one of us. A grizzled everyman, Jesse, a noble warrior. This was their version of a dude. Just like Swalwell. Ooh. If I only only knew about Swalwell then, that I knew now, I wouldn't have voted for him. Well, now here's your chance, and you're still supporting him. Okay, Tim Waltz, Hasan, Piker. These were your men. Any guy, any real guy, Republican, libertarian, anarchist, would avoid this guy at a bar. He gives you the creep vibes, just the way Swalwell did. You go and it. It's telling. And women should understand this. When you ever are dating a guy or you know, a guy, and you're. If he has no male friends, that's a problem, because men. Because men instinctively can see predatory behavior among people like that. He doesn't even have comrades from the military speaking up for him because they know that he has a lot of predations. So this reminds me, the Dems have a blind spot about predatory men. You know who were the first people to defend men invading women's spaces? It was liberal women.

[Jesse Watters]

You know, think about it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

How different is this guy than a dude pretending to be a chick in a dress? He exploits compassion and his own victimhood. I had a really dark period I had a really rough time. And women go, oh, yeah, you know, he could be unstable and a little bit violent, but he's so sensitive. He reads poetry and he's thoughtful. He's a victim. And so he has the progressive pig pass, which is used obviously by other Democrats, Swalwell being one of them in piker. You know, if I pretend to care, I can get into your safe space more than that. So I think if you have your choice to back up everything you say and you have said for 10 years and the language changes, and I say to Platner, see you next Tuesday.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah, you know, Charlie, Lindsey Fifield put out this statement. Part of it read, where are the stories from the other women? Where are the accusations of sexual assault? Or why am I the focus? Those stories are still out there. And if this guy's the nominee between now and November, we will hear those stories.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, yeah, there's so many more stories yet to come, as there have been stories every time. He said there are no more stories. Look, this guy likes to say that, you know, these are youthful indiscretions or, you know, don't judge me based on something I said during a dark period 13 years ago. The dude is 41 years old. He's not a youth. He got married in 2023 and immediately began cheating on his wife. The problem is, maybe it's not any of our business about what his relationship with his wife is, but the fact that he is a stone cold liar is a very significant part of all of this. And then you get into the story in the New York Times handling of it all, and they try to sit there and say that he had these really nasty words to describe women and he was a toxic man or whatever. No, he roughed up. He roughed up a girl, a woman, his girlfriend, and threw her in a room, locked her in the room and kept her there overnight. That's not roughing up. That's not being mean. That is assault and battery and kidnapping. And if anybody else had done that and been caught for it, you would go to jail for it. And so the idea that they're going to try to. And just one quick last point. I get it. There's polling and, you know, we all know that Susan Collins overperforms and, you know, if things are where they stand now, you know, she might be able to win. But Democrats don't believe that. Democrats believe that he is their best shot at beating her. And the people who are the best at rigging their own primaries to get rid of anybody, they want to get rid of. Whether it's Eric Swalwell or, you know, Bernie Sanders, they could get rid of this guy if they wanted to. They're not getting rid of him, but because they see him as the avenue to power.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yep. Well, Democrats will likely get their guy Tuesday. And the excuse from Hakeem Jeffries and AOC that they haven't read into the story won't hold for much longer.

[Charlie Kirk]

And Senator Boofing.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yes, there you go. Up next, Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom are apparently in a cat fight for 2028. But look out, Hunter Biden might be on their tail.

[Jesse Watters]

I gotta see my ex future mother anymore.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, Lord, when it rains, it pours.

[Jesse Watters]

Every day I look at the world from my window.

[Charlie Kirk]

So it sounds like California's two biggest fat cats are clawing at each other. Check out this piece from the Wall street journal. Like two cats circling, Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom weigh a 2028 showdown. They claim to be friends, but many expect a gloves off brawl should the two decide to run for president. And one guy who's worked for both politicians says, quote, if they ever run in the same race, it will be a murder suicide, God forbid. But the Democrats dark night might crack Gavin and Kamala's party.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Only way that you get to true gratitude is to be grateful for all of it. I'm grateful that I was a crack addict and I don't say that with even the slightest bit of irony. Or I get to approach you and you get to see all of me. I've just broken down every barrier that you could possibly have to find a connection with me. That's beautiful.

[Charlie Kirk]

Axios notes how Hunter is charming his conservative critics with his new X account. And the former first son is calling himself the MAGA Whisperer. So, Jessica, real quick, no notes. You can only pick a, B or C. Gavin Newsom. Kamala Harris or Hunter Biden.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Gavin Newsom.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, I get it. They're all terrible or whatever when you all make the same choice.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

None of the above.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, you don't.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's not an option.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm Team Hunter all the way.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay, well, I love to hear that out.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you think Hunter Biden has a shot?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

No.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And I don't think Hunter Biden wants a shot. I think Hunter Biden is living freely, having conversations with whoever he wants. He's trolling a bit. He's defending his parents when he thinks that that's necessary. He's putting some conspiracies to rest. Like I liked his line about of course, it wasn't my coke in the White House. I'd never leave my drugs behind. And he's in the YOLO phase of his life while I think the art is struggling a little bit.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, Greg, he also had a pretty funny tweet the other day talking about how he wishes that people that superimposed a crack pipe in his mouth drew the proper crack pipe.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes. He's quibbling. I think that's a minor detail, but I'm gonna do a full throated defense of Hunter in this comparison. Of the other two, I've already forgotten their names. Hunter number one is the reverse of Platner and the reverse of, of Gavin Newsom. We know everything about him. We've seen him at his worst. It's all out there but Platner, it just keeps unfolding. And we know nothing about Gavin Newsom. And there's no story of recovery, just covering up. That's what you have with those people. Platner shouldn't be running for office. He should be running for rehab. He could be running for office because he can face the public. You got it all. You could see everything there. Also, let's talk about competence. This man raised millions and millions of dollars, worked all around the world while being a functioning crackhead. So, you know, I, you know, I thought I was a functioning drunk. I. Hats off to you, fella. It really is interesting that how addicts are supremely competent. And this is why when they get cleaned up, you have to give them a second chance. You cannot condemn Hunter Biden and still embrace RFK Jr. You can't shut the door on Hunter and open the door for RFK Jr. They were not too different. They both had insane drug addictions. They both treated people pretty badly. They did crazy stuff while they were using. They had a family name. And like, I wasn't crazy about RFK Jr. But I liked his story of redemption a lot. And I think that with Hunter, I think, you know, he's truly sober. I don't think he can. I don't think you can fake the story on gratitude. The way he was talking. There's one thing I know about him, he's not woke. Judging by his lifestyle, he's not woke. But he's got to deal with one thing, one thing. And that's the kid, you know, that's the biggest. That should be the biggest. If you're sober and you're talking about gratitude, the biggest thing in your life is writing that thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And he is a gun enthusiast, which is a plus.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Until he's blaming it on an illegal.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jesse Watters]

Kaylee.

[Charlie Kirk]

Gavin Newsom likes to now talk about California Derangement Syndrome and claims that it's Fox and Republicans who are tearing down his state that he's been governor of. When we're in a primary season here. And Republicans have had nothing to do with the demise of California.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Nothing. It's passing the buck. It's completely wrong. He has been governor since January 7, 2019. He has had seven years to right the ship. And instead he's blaming those beneath him. Oh, you know, abdicating responsibility. It's the mayor. It's the mayor. Well, Gavin, we know this. There was a public document from your own government that was given to you several years ago about a hospice fraud crisis. It was dozens and dozens of pages that gave him a map showing hospice, all on one street in California. He did nothing about it. That's just one example of many. You get to affordability, homelessness, poverty rates, migration, tax, education. California is behind on the pack, but this is a murder suicide. I love the way the Wall Street Journal framed that. And when you look at it, they compete on book sales. Apparently, they compare numbers. Kamala and Gavin Newsom. Not only that, they talk about, you know, when Joe Biden dropped out and Kamala tried to call Newsom to secure his support, he tweeted back, hiking will call back. And then when Kamala. When he said, no, wait, I did call you back. Kamala, you said I didn't call you back. I texted you back. She texted him on book tour. Get back to you later. I mean, these are very snubby responses to one another. And then I'll just end with this. He didn't speak at the convention, and he cited a scheduling conflict. We are about to witness a murder suicide on a debate stage in two short years in the Democratic Party. And the dark night. Not Hunter Biden, the Dark Knight is aoc. That Atlas intel poll. I know, it's an outlier. Showing her as number one in the primary pac. That's the Democrat to watch. It should scare every Republican, every independent. AOC is the Dark knight.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, Jesse, we all know how much you love a cat fight. Can you sort of break this down for us?

[Jesse Watters]

Well, Gavin, since he's a man, he should rise above it. But he's just as petty as Kamala. They're snubbing each other. They're, like, jockeying to see who speaks first. Forget it. Here's a little advice for Gavin Newsom. You gotta stop pussyfooting around when you're dealing with Harris. This is a fight. You gotta take the gloves off. If he starts dancing around, doesn't want to offend blacks or women, that's not gonna cut it. The media's already gonna say you're mansplaining and you're being mean. You gotta slit her throat and then just watch her die. She can't perform. Put a vat of her misery. You say she can't cut it. She had a shot. She's from the past. We can't do the Biden era anymore. As far as Hunter is concerned, I kind of agree with Greg. I wouldn't call him presidential timber, but I like him. He's in a little bit of a redemption arc. But just because he did drugs and now doesn't do drugs doesn't excuse the fact that he's a jerk. Okay. It doesn't make you, like, get to wipe out 20 years of being a jerk. Okay. He's still kind of a jerk, but he's likable now. He's actually pretty witty. And he's got a couple slashing on your show.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, this is why I forgot.

[Jesse Watters]

He'll probably do Greg's show.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I want to discuss this further with him on my show. And I think wouldn't my show be the perfect spot?

[Jesse Watters]

I think it might be a better venue than my show.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Oh, my gosh. I would like to watch him on Gutfeld.

[Charlie Kirk]

Gutfeld would be rehab 101 for him.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, we would get on famously.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I bet he'd do really well, too.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

The more degenerate I was going to rate, the more. Yeah, exactly. The more degenerate, the better they do on Gutfeld.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Get him and Avenatti together.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, up next, Hollywood's latest case of Trump derangement syndrome starring Richard Gere.

[Jesse Watters]

Another day, another Hollywood. Hollywood TDS crash out. The man who starred in Pretty Woman, Richard Gere scurrying back into the spotlight, appearing on foreign soil in Norway. That's a country in Scandinavia. Greg telling Europeans he thinks President Trump is crazy and America is in a dark place.

[Charlie Kirk]

How many Americans out here? Okay, we're living in the darkest moment that I've experienced on this planet. Whoever thought America could turn like this? Who ever thought that a maniac like this would be president of the United States and dismantle. Wait, wait, no, no. I don't have a plot. This is something for us to really communicate. Dismantle all the good things.

[Jesse Watters]

Well, if. If America's in a dark place, isn't that Fine. Because Platner was in a dark place and at the.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, we're all in dark places. Some more than others.

[Jesse Watters]

Jesse, I'm looking at you.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Richard Gere is a great teacher, but a lousy student. He's been a Buddhist for 45 years, dedicated to the meditations and teaching. He did a documentary called the Wisdom of Happiness about the joy of Buddhism, but he doesn't apply the principles to his derangement. A Buddhist would say that hatred is never appeased by hatred. It is only appeased by non hatred. It is like taking poison, hoping that you would kill somebody else. That's what they would call hatred. We forget. See, he forgets his own practice. He has allowed his emotions, his anger, to get the best of him. And he doesn't realize that it's a transient state. So I have some tips for him. He should embrace his anger like a mother holding a crying baby. Attend to the reaction. As a separate thing, a Buddhist said that. And then that leads to the bigger question, which I've often said here about tds. When you have tds, you have to ask yourself, what are you really afraid or attached to? The mind exaggerates the flaws of the person and then ignores the shared humanity as a way to ignore your contributions to the suffering. What is your role in the resentment? There's something about TDS that exposes a fault that you don't like about you. I would diagnose that. It's envy and competitiveness and status. He thinks he could be a better president. That's what happened, I think, to De Niro. It happened to a lot of, like, people who said, why am I not that guy?

[Jesse Watters]

But he was great. Charlie and pretty woman 36 years ago. Still great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And I don't mean to be mean to the guy, but seriously, this is the darkest moment in your life. I mean, talk about sheltered. I mean, get out and live a little bit. You've never, like, buried a dog.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He's buried some dogs, but not well.

[Charlie Kirk]

I knew it. You couldn't. You couldn't go. You couldn't do this without going there. But, you know, and there was a time he was a good. Like, what are you using? Cotton Club.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That was before Kojak.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Jesse Watters]

American Gigolo.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so. So I, you know, I don't mean to, but has he made anything? Has he done any movies? I went on the Wikipedia page and there are no movies in the past 15 years that he has made. So I guess he's retired, he's out of it, and he probably should go Back to his, like, Buddhist temple and, you know.

[Jesse Watters]

Shut up, Jessica. Should he go on foreign soil and blast the United States of America like this?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I think that rule only applies to people in elected office or presidents that shouldn't be doing it. I think regular people go and say whatever they want.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Buddhists.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Jessica, I don't discriminate. Whatever you worship, you do you. Pretty Woman is the best, though. Hooker with a heart of gold. Classic story. Anytime it's on tv. That and the Fugitive I always watch.

[Jesse Watters]

Who was in the Fugitive again, Richard?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, Harrison Ford.

[Jesse Watters]

Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones. And Harrison Ford was in Star wars, too. What are you doing?

[Greg Gutfeld]

What, are you just gonna rattle Indiana Jones to rattle off movies?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Which I'm enjoying now.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Whoa, that was close. As a millennial, I know very little about this man. I keep calling him Richard Greer, but apparently it's Richard Gere. I keep doing double takes because he looks a lot like Bill Clinton. But nevertheless, what I do know is this. I looked him up. He's 76 years old, born in 1949. He said it's the darkest time of his life he's ever experienced on the planet. Because of President Trump. The man lived through the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK Jr. The Vietnam War, September 11, Sandy Hook, where little kindergartners were shot in their classroom. I'm really tired of the hyperbole. Nancy Pelosi tried it, calling Trump a vile creature, the worst person on planet Earth. It doesn't work. Just go away and continue. Maybe he could stand him for Bill Clinton. He could do, like, presidential acting because he looks just like him.

[Jesse Watters]

Maybe he doesn't like the reflecting pool. Have you seen the reflecting pool? It looks spectacular.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can you imagine how many girls he would get if Bill Clinton looked like Richard Gere?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

They look identical.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Or they don't.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know who wouldn't say something like that? Richard Grieco. What was he in the later stages of 21 Jump Street?

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, that's right. And then they did the new 21 Jump Street. And who was in that? Yeah, the fat kid that lost all that weight.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, Richard Gere lived through that, too.

[Jesse Watters]

He lived through the remake of 21 Jump Street. Those were dark times. The fastest is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jesse Watters]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jesse Watters]

Anyway, give it a [e-mail] Switch upfront

[Kayleigh McEnany]

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[Jesse Watters]

I love it. I don't care.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Welcome back. There once was a woman from Nantucket who gave laxative laced brownies to her local school committee and prompted a police report. Watch.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I brought these for you guys.

[Jesse Watters]

I was gonna say they're tissue.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

They're brownies. My understanding they do have a non. Excuse me, non detect level of ex lax in them. But I figured since we're okay with a non detect level of pfas, it

[Greg Gutfeld]

would probably be okay.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Just to be clear, nobody ate the poop brownies. She claims they were safe to eat and the whole stunt was meant to protest so called forever chemicals in a proposed fake grass football field the town wants to build. Charlie, thinking outside the box there, right?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's pure anarchy. I'm very much against that. I think that that's, that's a tantamount to like putting rat poison in brownies and giving it to them. Can you imagine if they had like dug in and eaten them all? It would have been a catastrophe. It would have made Gutfeld that week.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Gutfeld would have loved it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Greg, I think, you know, what's the point of a prank when you reveal it before you execute it, you know, she said non detectable traces of laxative in the brownies. She might have just invented an amazing new snack. A delicious dessert treat that eases constipation and satisfies your sweet tooth. She should do the very same thing she did here with one little change on Shark Tank. You know, when they come out on Shark Tank, she hands the brownies out to each of the sharks and she goes, enjoy those brownies. And as they're eating, she would say they have a little bit of laxative in them, but gentle. It'll be a gentle, soothing relief. And then she'll go, okay, sharks. Who wants to get in on the poop?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Kaylee?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking of what it takes to make brownies and sprinkle laxatives in them. Just pour a little in.

[Jesse Watters]

I know, but you.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

No, I don't do pot. I've never had pot in my life. Who do you think I am, like a lunatic?

[Jesse Watters]

Never had pot in my life.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Never. I never would. I'm very anti marijuana. But he's like, sprinkling laxatives. She is in there because she's protein protesting PFAS in a turf field. Like, you've got to really be passionate about something.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you think she really did it or do you think she's just.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

That's what I was wondering. Did she do it or not?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't know, Jesse. Does she really do it?

[Jesse Watters]

Well, the question is, is it a crime? And I don't see a crime here. It's a laxative. It's not lsd. And by the way, if you did lace it with lsd, is that a crime?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I think so.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay, fine. Go back to laxative. I don't think giving someone a laxative in a brownie is a criminal offense. So it's just like a little bit of a prank.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, I'll try it.

[Jesse Watters]

So not on me. Not on me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Note to your kids. I hope they see this.

[Jesse Watters]

You know, we don't have any laxatives in the house, so I don't. I don't think they're gonna get any at the store.

[Jessica Tarlov]

They're all very regular there. Sugar free candy is a laxative and a lot of people don't know that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Really?

[Jesse Watters]

That's a greater free for candy.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Fan mail. Friday's up next.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, I just can't pull myself away.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm gonna spell.

[Jesse Watters]

I can't break. I.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jesse Watters]

This is incredible.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jesse Watters]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Jesse Watters]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

Fan mail Friday. First one from Deborah. What's the worst advice ever given to you, Charlie? What's about your hair?

[Charlie Kirk]

Just be yourself.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, that's good. That is good. Just be yourself. Why?

[Charlie Kirk]

Because, I mean, like, I'm a disaster.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, nobody wants to see you. Yeah, we're all basket kids.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's why we have manners.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We go to work not to be ourselves.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That was the problem when we started. People started telling people to stress their individuality at work. Everything went to hell. Jessica, worst advice ever given to you?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, I got advice on like a way to cover up a speeding ticket that I got. And I took it and I ended up, like, etching my speeding ticket in my dad's desk. Like, it was like a white desk and it had that, like, you know, that paper. The graph.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Right, the graph paper.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Anyway, it's not that good of one.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Wow.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, let's just sit here and think about it for a while. Hey, Jesse.

[Jesse Watters]

So my dad told me when I started Fox not to put any money from my paycheck into my 401k. What? So they're like, the first seven years at Fox, I didn't put any money into my 401k. Like, my dad is so stupid. I think he's. Because he's from, like, the Depression. You know, the Depression era kids, they're just like, oh, the market's risky. You know, I just missed out, like, on a generational run in, like, the early 2000s. Fine, fine. I'm not thinking about it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You're not thinking about it, Kayleigh, worst advice you ever got.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I think when I was young, people would say, you know, don't ask for things. Don't pitch yourself.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And I'm like, you have. Those are good ones.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

You have to pitch yourself. So you agree and. No, I think as a woman, don't

[Jessica Tarlov]

ask for what you know you deserve.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Like, oh, wait.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Good things come to those. Wait.

[Jesse Watters]

I think that's true.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Jessica and I.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You are, of course you would say that.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Yes.

[Jesse Watters]

I waited.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I wondered if you would agree.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, my God.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I have so much bad advice on guests. That's what I. When people tell me this person is going to be good and they just suck. And I'm just like, why did you. I have stories, but I'm going to say another one along the same as yours. Follow your dreams. Don't follow your dreams. Don't follow your dreams. Just work and your dreams will find you.

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, yes. I like that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We have time for another.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay. What place or thing makes you the most nostalgic? Keep it clean, Kaylee.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

The ballpark. Growing up in Plant City, Florida, my brother played Little League. I was a Little League cheerleader. Little League football. I love it. It's like, wholesome. It's wonderful. I hope I'm creating the same for my kids.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What about you, Jesse?

[Jesse Watters]

Vegas.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Jesse Watters]

Good memories.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

That, too.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Hanging out in the smoky casino as your mom played the slots.

[Jesse Watters]

Like off the Strip? Way off. Off.

[Greg Gutfeld]

She was using the money. She was supposed to buy medicine for you.

[Jesse Watters]

Cigarette dangling out of her lips. Those were the days.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Those were the days. What about what makes you nostalgic? Communism.

[Jesse Watters]

The Soviet Union.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Soviet Union.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Riding in a station wagon.

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, yes. That's cool.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I grew up.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We had car sickness.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Like listening to Elton John and like, singing along with my mom and my sister.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Riding backwards. It was miserable. Mine's similar pickup truck. Pre computers. Just a plain, stripped down 1970 Ford F100 pickup. It brings back memories. Riding around with my grandfather, who's a cattle farmer.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That was nice. I'm gonna go with pine needles. Everybody smell pine needles. I think of California. A lot of pine needles.

[Charlie Kirk]

You can get pine needle candles.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I could, but then I would be a homosexual. One More Thing is up next.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

It's time now for One More Thing. Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, tonight. Oh, we got a doozy. Dagan McDowell, Sherrod Small. Dave Rubin, Todd Pyro tonight. And let's do this. Greg's Sexy Zebra News. Cue the music for the stripy sex bomb. Who knew that a zebra could enjoy a Popsicle with such sensuality? The tongue is relatively proportional to its head. It is estimated to be 10 to 12 inches long. Think about that, kids. Their tongues play a vital role in all reproductive behaviors. Using their tongues to capture scents and analyze parenthones. Pheromones. That's how you make a pharaoh moan.

[Charlie Kirk]

Are you making this up or are you actually reading something?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Do you think I had that in my brain?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

That takes talent.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Sometimes you have really weird stuff in your brain.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's true.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

No, that takes talent. I couldn't do that.

[Jesse Watters]

Jesse, how many penises does a snake have?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Two.

[Jesse Watters]

Two. You're right.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Whoa.

[Jesse Watters]

Greg gets the prize. We have a feeding frenzy. Happy D E. I. Just kidding. Happy NE. National Donut Day. July 5th. Official day of celebrating the donut. What would you guys like?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

The green one.

[Jesse Watters]

You want the green one?

[Charlie Kirk]

No.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

It's gotta have sprinkles.

[Jesse Watters]

You gotta have sprinkles.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I want the Boston Charlie.

[Jesse Watters]

Come on. Come on, Charlie.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The next one.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'll go with the chocolate one here.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay, I'm gonna go the one with the he man on it. All right. Tonight, Jesse, what is prime time? John Fetterman reacts to the communist snipple Nazi.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Do you taste anything different about the donuts?

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, no. I gotta go to the bathroom.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Oxidant donuts. Jessica, I said you could go. Oh, thank you. You're so nice. Jessica. We're actually really good friends off camera.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Really?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I didn't know that. Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What do you guys do? Do you do each other's hair at a slumber party?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Exactly. All right. On Saturday in America tomorrow. We have Attorney General Todd Blanche. We have FBI Director Kash Patel. And then we have Ken Paxton. Vanilla Ice.

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, boy.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Sean Parnell. Andrew Ferguson. Consider John Fetterman because I love him.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jesse, Sausage party.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You have Ken Paxton, of course. Are you going to ask him about the biblical grounds Divorce?

[Kayleigh McEnany]

I am going to ask him about H1B visa fraud. Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I think that you should ask him all the questions that you'd like to ask.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

Jessica. Eat your donut, Jessica.

[Jesse Watters]

They're really friends.

[Jessica Tarlov]

My really good friend.

[Kayleigh McEnany]

She doesn't want to do it one more time.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The chicken didn't cross the road. It directed traffic. See what I did there? Pennsylvania Police department gave an unexpected recruit after responding to a report of a chicken in the center lane. And I'm being played out.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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