Police Release New Enhanced Video Of Brown University Shooting Suspect

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five
Episode: Police Release New Enhanced Video Of Brown University Shooting Suspect
Date: December 17, 2025

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Overview

This episode of "The Five" centers on the ongoing investigation into the deadly mass shooting at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island. The panel provides live commentary as local officials, federal agents, and university leadership release new, enhanced video footage of the suspect and update the public on the case through a highly anticipated press conference. Discussions span the effectiveness of the investigation, institutional transparency, the political aftermath, and community responses, capturing both the gravity of the tragedy and the frustrations of all involved.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Latest on the Investigation and Video Release

• Enhanced Video Evidence: Providence Police and the FBI released new, six-minute enhanced video footage tracing the suspect across 15 surveillance clips from Saturday, taken largely from residential cameras around Brown University. There is no audio; authorities urge the public to study body movements and posture to aid identification (06:40-08:30).

• Public Assistance Plea: Police call for residents and businesses to check private camera systems—including Teslas' dashcams—for footage on or before the day of the shooting (08:30-09:40).

  “We’re asking the public to look at the movement patterns—how this person moves their arms, their posture, how they carry their weight. That may help you identify the individual.” – Colonel Oscar Perez, Providence Police ([08:10])

• Investigation Scope: Close collaboration cited among Providence Police, the FBI, and Brown University. The FBI deployed victim specialists and is canvassing terabytes of footage. Nearly 200 actionable tips are being followed up.

• Suspect Details: The person of interest is believed to have been casing the area as early as 10:30 am on the day of the shooting—indicative of premeditation (19:15-19:30).

  “We strongly believe [this is] the suspect in the incident and a person of interest.” – Colonel Oscar Perez ([19:43])

2. Press Conference Analysis

• Transparency & Criticism: The panel sharply criticizes Brown University’s and officials’ earlier lack of transparency and controlled information flow. Jesse Watters calls the initial press conference an “embarrassment” and accuses leadership of protecting Brown’s reputation at the expense of public trust (03:35–04:55).

• Security Footage Gaps: Questions arise about why video from inside the building wasn’t released. Attorney General Narona explains the shooting took place in an older section with few cameras, while available footage from newer parts only shows chaos post-incident (25:09–26:45).

  “A multimillion dollar school with a huge endowment could afford new cameras in an old building.” – Brian Kilmeade ([26:56])

• Delayed Canvassing: Residents and business owners reported not being contacted for potentially useful camera footage until days after the shooting, raising questions about the investigation’s urgency (24:02–24:40).

3. Law Enforcement, School, and Political Responses

• Authorities’ Plea for Patience: Multiple officials (Mayor, FBI, Attorney General, Governor) ask the community for patience, assure ongoing intensive work, and underscore the difficulty and complexity of the investigation (11:15–13:22).

• Brown University’s Stance: President Christina Paxson assures full law enforcement cooperation and stresses the institution’s commitment to campus safety. She rejects public notions that Brown is unhelpful or secretive (13:29–14:44).

  “Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well being of our community... The shooter is responsible.” – President Christina Paxson ([13:34])

• Community Impact: Statements emphasize the emotional toll, with city leadership praising school staff for maintaining normalcy and strength for students (14:44–18:08).

4. Panel’s Post-Conference Critique & Unanswered Questions

• Frustrations & Theories: The panel notes significant unanswered questions—Why delay on revealing if the shooter yelled anything? Was the crime targeted? Did the suspect have access to Brown facilities? Could political tensions (e.g., international students, protests) be a factor? (30:00–32:11)

  “We still don’t know what this guy yelled. ...Why didn’t the shooter shoot the guy he came eye to eye with? ...Is there an international angle that they’re concerned about?” – Jesse Watters ([30:13])

• Comparisons to Other Investigations: Dan Bongino laments lack of coordination, pressing for better use of AI, cell tower data, and rapid ID efforts seen in other high-profile cases (32:28–33:58).

• Confidence Issues: Kennedy questions university and police competence, doubting if current efforts are sufficient to reassure the community (35:11–37:32).

  “If there was a student who was targeted during this class, would it have been known who was going to be there? …There are over 800 cameras there... and all of the footage they provided is from ring cams.” – Kennedy ([35:11])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Information Overload—Gutfeld’s Law:

  “All information could be distilled to 5% of its volume... you realize that it’s two facts that are repeated in a dozen different ways.” – Greg Gutfeld ([07:23], [29:00])

• Personal Impact Stories:

  “A second-grader literally skipping to the front door... he doesn’t know everything that’s going on in this scary world right now. The strength of the adults has allowed that little kid to skip to school this morning.” – Mayor of Providence ([14:44])

• Sharp Panel Critique:

  “The entire leadership team is a joke. Hopefully the FBI can come in and make some real progress.” – Jesse Watters ([04:50])

• On Brown University’s Responsibility:

  “The shooter is responsible. Horrific gun violence took the lives of these students and hospitalized others. ...We are cooperating fully with law enforcement.” – President Christina Paxson ([13:40])

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Important Timestamps

• [00:34] – Episode launch and context
• [00:34–06:40] – Introduction and press conference setup, initial panel comments
• [06:40–09:58] – Airing of the enhanced suspect video and police request for public assistance
• [09:58–18:08] – Press conference: FBI, Attorney General, Governor, Brown President, and city updates
• [18:08–32:11] – Q&A: investigation efforts, press, and panel critique; issues of video access, suspect details, and security protocols
• [29:00–37:32] – Panel’s extended reactions, investigative skepticism, and institutional trust issues

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Tone and Style

The discussion is serious and, at times, impatient and skeptical, marked by political and institutional scrutiny. Panelists express frustration with perceived gaps in information, slow response, and communication shortcomings from authorities and Brown University. Some levity is injected through personal anecdotes, the show's staple banter, and Gutfeld’s comic asides, but the core is a pointed public critique in the face of a community crisis.

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This summary captures the substantive content of the episode’s main block, providing a broad understanding for listeners who missed the show.

Transcript

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[Brian Kilmeade]

It's the hello, everyone.

[Dana Perino]

I'm Dana Farino along with Kennedy, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Authorities are releasing new video evidence as we wait for an update to begin from officials in Providence, Rhode island, in the deadly mass shooting at Brown University. The FBI just releasing this new timeline video. It is six minutes long and traces the person of interest in 15 different video clips. On Saturday, he appears at one point to walk past the police just moments after the shooting. Police also released this new enhanced video of the suspect. The footage was captured on the east side of Providence on Saturday afternoon before the incident. Officials are obviously hoping today goes better than yesterday. That news conference was widely criticized for offering very few answers and at times went off the rails.

[Dan Bongino]

Why not?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Because Brown University is not collaborating with you guys. You're lying to the press over here. They have facial recognition. We know that because they follow the students. They follow everybody in the neighborhood. Facial recognition. They need to release that data. Do everybody know who the guy is in video? We got the video Saturday. Why you guys released the video today?

[Mayor of Providence]

Brown University and Brown Public Safety, Brown Police Department has been a close collaborator throughout this process. I do not accept that criticism. We've all been working for now, 49 hours. We're tired. We're serious about the task at hand. And I know that people are weary. And so I'm asking please for a little bit of patience and grace.

[Dana Perino]

And they were not very forthcoming on some of the details, like whether the shooter yelled anything during his rampage.

[Brian Kilmeade]

There's a report the shooter yelled something.

[Jesse Watters]

Right before his shot came in.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Could you tell us what that, what that was?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Yes, part of the investigation.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Did he yell, though? Did something, say something?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

That's something that we're investigating. We took statements and we have to.

[Dana Perino]

Confirm that there are some Democrats making things political. By pushing gun control and blaming President.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Trump, he is restoring gun rights to felons and people who have lost their.

[Dan Bongino]

Ability to buy guns. So he has been engaged in a.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Pretty deliberate campaign to try to make violence more likely in this country. And I think you're unfortunately going to see the results of that on the streets of America.

[Dana Perino]

It is a tragedy that this has become a normal occurrence, not just in the United States, but now seeing it in Australia, who's worked really hard to.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Create gun prevention laws to prevent the kind of tragedy that took place today.

[Dana Perino]

And we're awaiting this press conference and the updates that you see in there, they're getting set up. And when that starts, we'll bring it to you. Jesse, let me start with you because yesterday they seemed like to have no possible clue and now it is possible they have more information.

[Jesse Watters]

Well, sources are saying they're zeroing in on leads and we don't know what they are, but hopefully we get some answers at this press conference. Yesterday's press conference was a complete embarrassment. It seems like Brown's protecting their reputation. You know, Brown's a very powerful institution. They run Providence. They bring in all the money, all the prestige. And for some reason, it doesn't seem like they've been very forthcoming with any information. We still don't know anything about the suspect. They put out something yesterday asking eyewitnesses to contact them them if they saw anything. Now, if you control a crime scene, you immediately bring in everybody that was in the auditorium and you ask them questions and interrogate them, and that's how you control the information. Brown had no control over this. The cameras, we still don't know anything. All the video we've seen so far have been from ring cameras from residential neighborhoods. I don't trust this guy Smiley. He seems to be covering something up. The entire leadership team is a joke. Hopefully the FBI can come in and make some real progress.

[Dana Perino]

They are gathering there and that is the mayor. So let's see if he's going to start. And a Fox News alert here. Police and officials in Providence, Rhode island, they're holding this update on the deadly mass shooting at Brown. Let's listen.

[Mayor of Providence]

Released just a little while ago. If you are here and do not have that video, you can see Camille or Julie and they can send that to you while we're reporting. Additionally, Camille and Julie are your contact to be on the press distribution list to be advised of future announcements. At this time, I'll introduce Providence police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Thank you, mayor. As well as the mayor stated, we're about to show you a video. If we can have the it officer paid.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It.

[Dana Perino]

They should have the okay. All right, so what's happening right now is they started the press Conference and they have this six minute video. And what appears to be happening is for the press gathered and then for your benefit, they're playing the entire video, but there's no sound in the video. So we're just going to be, I guess, narrating a little bit as we look at this subject. They said how many? They said it was multiple cameras, that they saw him all day long. So they're piecing this together and the FBI providing this. Anybody else want to comment here?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm excited they got a new signer. Did you see that?

[Dana Perino]

I did see that, yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They needed to give the other guy a break.

[Dana Perino]

He put himself out there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He was exhausted.

[Kennedy]

I think he gave himself carpal tunnel.

[Dana Perino]

Press conference.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But I came up with this rule, it's called the Gutfeld's law of shrinkage.

[Dana Perino]

Okay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That all information could be distilled to 5% of its volume. And you learn this at these press conferences.

[Dana Perino]

Here we go.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What's happening?

[Dana Perino]

Well, that might have been the end of the video. Greg, hold on to that shrinkage.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Thank you, Joseph.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Let me say that if you don't have these videos, please let us know. And the reason we have shown these videos, there's a purpose, right? So as you can see, they're enhanced photos, this enhanced video footage. And so we're asking the public to ensure that they can see here that you want to focus on body movements. The way the person move their arms, the body posture, the way they carry their weight. I think those are important movement patterns that may help you identify this individual, which is extremely important. Another thing that we're going to ask the public is if you have any type of camera system, including Teslas, in your property. In this video that you just saw behind me, it all comes from the residential block of Waterman Avenue, Power Ives and Hope Street. And it's those residential areas that we're asking the public to look. If you have any camera systems or any Teslas, like I mentioned, that you look at that footage and that you can reach out to us and please provide us anything that you have. And we're asking you to go back at least a week to do that. And the reason for that is because on Saturday night, the date of, we actually learned that this individual was in that neighborhood around 10:30 in the morning. We also know in this profession that many criminals will case out an area weeks and days prior. And so it's important for us to ensure that we can have you look at that and help us. And the reason for that is because our offices Our agents are looking at terabytes of data, and we're looking for a moment that is shorter than somebody taking a breath. It's incredible hard work to do that. And so we're asking the public to assist us with that. The other thing is the Tip Center. We have been receiving hundreds of tips. However, we're about close to 200 actionable tips that we still conduct investigations on, which is incredible and is important. Again, keep in mind that this video footage is extremely important to us. And one more thing here that as a reminder, please remember that the number that we need you to call is 401-272-3121, as well as the link that the FBI provided, which is FBI.govgov Brown University shootings. Thank you very much.

[Mayor of Providence]

Thank you, Colonel. Now we'll hear from FBI's special agent in Charge, Ted Ducks.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Thank you, Mayor, and good evening. My name is Ted Docks. I'm the Special Agent in Charge of FBI Boston. On the heels of this tragedy, strength and resilience of the people of Providence is a powerful reminder of the bonds that unite us. The men and women of the FBI, along with the law enforcement team standing before you, carry the victims with us as we work around the clock to bring the individual responsible for their injuries and deaths to justice. Today, the FBI is working with Brown University to do everything we can to provide services to those impacted by this horrific shooting. The FBI has almost 30 victim specialists, special agents and analysts from all over the country who are here in Providence to support our survivors, the victims and their loved ones. The FBI Victim Services Response Team is one of the many specialized FBI assets that have been deployed here to assist. The toll of this type of tragedy takes on victims and their families is immeasurable, and we ask everyone to respect their privacy at this difficult time. Thank you.

[Mayor of Providence]

Thank you, Special Agent. Next, Attorney General Peter Narona.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Thank you, Mayor. I don't have a lot to add other than that. From my perspective, I think the investigation in a case like this would. Which is a challenging one. It's going really well. On the third floor of this building, there are dozens of agents, detectives, led by Providence police, prosecutors from my office, working to put together. And what you're seeing is just a portion of what they're working on right now. So they are literally. Because I have seen at least part of it. The shift changes late at night. I think Rhode Islanders should take confidence in their work. They are veterans of what they do. They're smart, they're professional, and they're getting the resources from the Mayor and the governor that they need the state police as well to get this job done. And I'm confident they're going to be able to do that. Just need a little bit of patience, as hard as it is to say that in this really horrible context. Thank you.

[Mayor of Providence]

Thank you, General, Governor Damicke for an update now.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Thanks, Mayor. And right off the top, we're just making sure that we're. The state is supporting Providence and Brown University and then working with the FBI as well as our state police and the attorney general to continue to provide information to the people in the state of Rhode Island. My information is that recently today we've met with all the university presidents in the state of Rhode Island. We know that we want to start a working group that will talk about enhancing the safety issues. And you'll see shortly that we'll be doing the same thing in terms of the mental health issues. And I think that's important. As I'm out and about, we're hearing a great deal of anxiety coming from families and students and the general public. And that's one of the reasons why our state police has supported the Providence schools with presence as school begins and school ends in support of the mayor and his efforts to support the schools.

[Mayor of Providence]

Thank you, Governor. We're also joined tonight by Brown University President Christina Paxson.

[Christina Paxson]

Thank you, Mayor. I want to begin by thanking the many law enforcement agencies who continue to work around the clock on on this case. It's very impressive. I also want to thank the mayor and the governor for their continued support. The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well being of our community. And I've been deeply saddened to see people questioning that. We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this. Anxiety and fear is very natural, but the shooter is responsible. Horrific gun violence took the lives of these students and hospitalized others. And it's deeply sad and tragic that schools across the country are targets of violence. Brown is no exception. We are cooperating fully with law enforcement. And again, we thank the multiple agencies that have been working so hard day and night with increased patrols to keep our campus safe and to investigate this horrific shooting. Thank you.

[Mayor of Providence]

Thank you, President Paxson. I'll give a couple updates on behalf of the city and then we'll take your questions. First, as has been discussed many times, we continue to have enhanced police presence throughout the city of Providence to help bolster the Confidence and provide a sense of additional security to our residents. Today we were aided by neighboring municipalities in central falls. Supplemental officers. We're grateful to our neighbors for sticking up and standing up with Providence. The state police continues to be an incredible partner, and I thank the governor and colonel Weaver for their partnership. Providence public schools remain in session. Friday is the last day of school before winter break. Spent some time at our schools again today. As has been the case in the past, the schools in the area of brown are having regular police presence. And with and because of the assistance of the Rhode island state police, we've been able to provide additional police presence and coverage to other schools in Providence, and we thank them for that. When I was at one of our elementary schools this morning, the faculty were having a brief meeting before kids started to arrive. And in discussion with some of the teachers, I asked how they were doing, and one of the teachers said what I think a lot of us are feeling. She said, you know, it's hard, but I'm putting on a good face for the kids. We need to be here for them. And I think that's how a lot of our residents feel right now, which is that we are taking very tentative steps forward, but we're doing it for one another. And so I do want to thank our educators at this time. They're being asked to go to school right now. Our principals are asked to be going to school right now for the sake of the families and the kids. And at that same school, there was a second grader literally skipping to the front door because he's a second grader and he doesn't know everything that's going on in this scary world right now. And so the strength of the adults has allowed that little kid to skip to school this morning. And so I want to thank all of my fellow residents of Providence for putting on a strong face for the sake of others at this time. There were questions yesterday, and so I'll also just give a brief update on the health status of the survivors. If folks will recall. There had been eight hospitalized, one has since been discharged. There had been nine, eight hospitalized, one has since been discharged. The seven that remained in hospital, one is in critical status, one five in critical but stable status. Although healthcare providers report that they are improving and one in stable status. Those are the seven. One in critical, five in critical but stable, one in stable status, and one discharged since the last time we made comments about their safety and recovery from the podium. Now we'll open it up to questions.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

So the question was if I could Just repeat what I stated earlier in English as far as the. What occurred here, the reasons of the video and what I was requesting from the public. Importantismo. La calle hope, la calle de la waterman avenue. La calle de la power street.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Chief Tartis, you said that this person was in the neighborhood at 10:30. Clarify, you believe that was at 10:30 the morning of the shooting, and what do you believe he was doing there at that time?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Correct, and we have. We have video footage of that, and we believe that he was actually casing out this area to commit the crime. That's a pattern that criminals do, and that's what he was doing.

[Kennedy]

Chief, yesterday the FBI described the person.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

That we've been seeing in these images as a suspect.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Today, the language seems to be person of interest.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Can you clarify, do you believe that this person that we're looking at is.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Your shooter, is your shooting suspect?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Definitely. He's still a person of interest, and we're still investigating that to be able to get that insight. But we strongly believe definitely that suspect in the incident and a person of interest.

[Kennedy]

An MIT professor, died earlier this.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Morning from gun shop wounds. Does that incident have any potential connection to this investigation?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Now that we know? No.

[Mayor of Providence]

In the backside.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yesterday we were wondering about this person's age. Now that we've seen more video again.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

A couple days ago, I know you're saying twenties, so sometimes about thirties, but just to help people at home, people seeing this video. Do profilers or anyone in your department have any better understanding getting a closer.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Idea on his age?

[Dan Bongino]

And the second part of that question.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Is, can you now confirm that he has no connection as a past student or as a past staff member at the university?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

So the first question, I'll tell you that the first, when it happened on Saturday night, obviously it was chaos and there was a witness that stated that he might have been in his 30s. At this point, we're still just looking at the picture. We haven't identified ages or anything to that point. And as far as where he's a problem student or anything, we don't have any ill genesis, no.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Carl, in one of the new videos prior to the shooting, this person of interest is seen running at this point. Do you have any inkling why he's running?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Yeah, we're still investigating that, but what we do know is definitely that he was casing the area. And again, that's what criminals do prior to committing a crime.

[Dana Perino]

Chris, it appears that the FBI and.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Ppo, according to what I'm looking online.

[Dan Bongino]

Looks like they're releasing separate videos at a separate time.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Are you guys still coordinating or.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

You gotta understand that there's a lot of people upstairs, as the general stated earlier. And we're trying to ensure that we do this for our job and collect the evidence and that we need. And we want to make sure that everybody has the. Especially you guys in the public. One thing that we want to make sure that the community is safe, well informed, and stay confident in the work that we're doing. So, yes, there was a video that was released, but we also were working on another video. And the. The purpose of this press conference is to ensure that the public can see those videos showing movements, like I stated earlier, the way. The way the person walks, the way they carry their weight. That's the importance. And so our video. I'm sorry, the second video that we showed was the one that we needed to show the public.

[Ainsley Earhardt]

Please, in terms of cameras inside and outside the engineering building, are those working at all? And if so, why not release some of those videos?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

So the video that we showed you came from inside the building. And that's all we had at the moment. That's all we have at this moment.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Correct. Inside the engineering building, though.

[Mayor of Providence]

I'm sorry, it's from the outside.

[Dan Bongino]

From the.

[Ainsley Earhardt]

So do you have video from inside the engineering.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Both inside and outside. I'm sorry, just outside. That's all we have. Not inside. No, I'm sorry, just outside.

[Ainsley Earhardt]

Are they going to be released anytime soon?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

That was released already. That was the outside of the building. We released that.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Let me just. Let me just, Let me just jump here and clarify. Okay, so there is, for those of you who have been with us before, and I understand not all of you have been. There is video inside the building. There are cameras inside the building. What we have released to you are videos of this person of interest. So I want to be clear, because later on there may be other videos that get released in the course of a prosecution likely will be at some point. They show things like chaos after the shooting. What they don't show is the. Is this person of interest. And so that's why we haven't released those videos. Okay, what you do have are videos from a camera outside of the brown building and other cameras from around the neighborhood that the good men and women in law enforcement located and put together in this montage. And to your question, Chris, there are two versions of that video. But the bottom line is, as I understand it, they depict the same thing. And number one, and number two, the agencies are Working very, very well together, as I think the Special Agent in charge would agree.

[Mayor of Providence]

Attorney General, you've got a follow up and then we're going here.

[Ainsley Earhardt]

Just to clarify, there's no clear video.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Of the suspect inside and near.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

I just said that's correct.

[Kennedy]

Now can I just ask as well further to the, to the surveillance footage that you have received.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I've been here since Saturday speaking to.

[Kennedy]

People who are living in the residential buildings around and in the businesses. And many of the store clerks there have told me it wasn't until this.

[Ainsley Earhardt]

Morning that the police had actually come to ask them if they had anything.

[Kennedy]

That they could offer, any CCTV or any evidence that they could provide. Why has it taken three days for.

[Christina Paxson]

These people to have police confidential ask them for assistance?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

As I stated earlier, it's a residential block that includes a lot of homes, a lot of different camera footage and it takes a lot of work in the sense that there's a lot of terabytes that we're looking at in order to be able to analyze it, pull what we need. And sometimes it's just a moment that we need and it's almost shorter than somebody taking a breath. So it takes a lot of work. And then so once that leads us to our next location and so we move strategically, we have to pull the video, download it, analyze it, investigate it and then move forward.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Takes time to generalize. Yeah, I just want to jump in there too because I think I want to clarify in a sense what the chief is saying is that you store in the grid in the first instance that's closest to brown. It takes a lot of work to canvas that area and then you build out as you learn more about the path of travel. So it's entirely possible that tomorrow we'll be canvassing places that we haven't canvassed yet because we're working out with the resources that we have.

[Mayor of Providence]

Dan, go ahead.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We have a question and a follow up. Right? Yes, my first question, Attorney General, to follow up on my colleague, this is the question I asked on Saturday night, which is so there's cameras in the hallway but they don't show the suspect or Brown is not releasing them or you're not releasing them to us. How does a multi million dollar school not have a bunch of cameras in the hallway? So let me try to explain that. So as President Paxson knows, there was a major addition put on that building within the last five years or so. That is a modern building attached to a much older one in the back. So it doesn't come as a surprise to me, at least that there are cameras in the newer part of the building and there is video footage. Okay, so there's the back part of the building, old part and front part, new part. The shooting occurs in the old part, towards the back, up towards Hope street in that older part of the building. There are fewer if any cameras in that location, I imagine because it's an older building. So as students are fleeing the area of the shooting into the new part of the building, there are cameras in that brand new building that show that chaos. But the only video of the presumed, anticipated, suspected, however you want to define it, person of interest, you have it. We would release it if we thought it would be helpful in identifying this subject because we are relying on the press and public to help get us there. There would be no reason for us to hold it back. We're looking for the best image we can.

[Mayor of Providence]

Dan got a follow up.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Attorney General. Thank you for explaining that because it really clarifies it. Although I'm sure some people watching would think a multimillion dollar school with a huge endowment could afford new cameras in an old building. That's my statement.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Here's my question.

[Brian Kilmeade]

If he's casing that area, Colonel, like you said, he had an intended target, which speaks to the motive. Did he have a target to kill one of the two people that were killed?

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

We're still investigating the Dan. And something that we're trying to get the answers as well.

[Mayor of Providence]

So, Patrick.

[Jesse Watters]

Patrick for President Paxton.

[Dan Bongino]

Have you too related.

[Jesse Watters]

Have you reviewed any communications to Brown.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Before the shooting that revealed any kind of threat of any kind to anyone in the ground?

[Greg Gutfeld]

And then since the shooting, I believe.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Some web pages for students or faculty.

[Dan Bongino]

Have been taken down. Is that a response to any external.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Threats to anyone in the community?

[Christina Paxson]

We have been working very closely with law enforcement to provide them with all of the internal to ground information that they need to do this investigation. It's their investigation. They're the professionals.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So.

[Christina Paxson]

So we're providing information. We're not in the job of reviewing it for them. I know nothing about webpages being taken down as part of this. It's the first I've heard of it.

[Brian Kilmeade]

In the back.

[Dan Bongino]

Yep.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You want people to feel safe. Can you say this person of interest.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Is no longer in Providence, no longer in Rhode Island?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Are they out of the state?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Do we have any sense at all?

[Mayor of Providence]

I can't speak to the investigation. And if there's, if there's a follow up for either the general or the. The colonel I'm sure they'd be happy to answer it. But I'll restate what I've said several times now, which remains true as another day passes. Since the initial call came in at 4:05pm on Saturday, we have not received. And this is now updated with another 24 hours have passed, a single credible, specific threat to the the city related to this event.

[Dana Perino]

All right, we're gonna break out of this press conference a little bit of new information, but not a ton. What do you think?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Because.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I just want to.

[Dana Perino]

It seems like there's a lot more information swirling around.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I want to complete my thought on the new signer, who I believe is worse than the old one. She scares me. Her face reminds me of when I used to do cocaine. When you can't control any of your facial mites, who's this frightening to me? I was shocked that the president of Brown wasn't aware of these web pages. It's a Brown University website that went down. It's kind of been the story this afternoon. I don't know, it's. I think that's kind of a big deal. But I want to return to my point that Gutfeld's Law, all information can be distilled to 5% of its volume. You watch stuff like this and you realize that it's two facts that are repeated in a dozen different ways. And the rep. The repetition is maddening, but it's also incentivized because everybod, everybody wants their turn at the podium. Everybody has something they want to get out of this, whether they're a reporter or a mayor or an ag. And the medium itself demands that you inflate the story to fit the container, which is, you know, the news.

[Dana Perino]

I can't remember who said it, but it was. Everything's been said, but not everybody has said it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I think that was. That was not Jesse Watters.

[Dana Perino]

Not just, but. Let's get Jesse Waters.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Take.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay, so we still don't know what this guy yelled. We're hearing multiple reports about him yelling something. Why can't we hear from any of these eyewitnesses? I've only heard one eyewitness say the guy had a long gun, and so he also said he looked the shooter directly in the eye and then the shooter didn't kill him. Why didn't the shooter shoot the guy? If this was a random attack, he's just spraying bullets around. Why didn't he shoot the guy he came eye to eye with? That's weird. We're also hearing interesting reports that the vice president of the Brown Republicans might have been shot multiple times. We still don't understand if this was a targeted shooting and they're not giving us any clue about that. We also need to know, do you need to swipe a card before you get into this building? We're hearing you have to swipe cards. So was this guy a student? Did he have access to the building? Is he an international student? How many international students do they have at Brown University? It's been a very thorny issue, the issue of the Palestinian situation. There's been a lot of action, a lot of protests at Brown University. Does that concern them? Is there an international angle that they're concerned about? Still don't know about that. How about the one reporter who asks? Well, we talked to a bunch of the residents and businesses that are a block away and they say the cops never came to ask them for the ring camera videos until this week morning. So four days later, we're still not really flooding the zone. We're not flooding it with police, we're not flooding it with information. And the president of the university, I mean, everybody's talking about these websites being taken down, right? And she has no idea, right afterwards, in the aftermath, immediately she had no idea what the class was. How is she the leader of the school so unaware about the basics of this case? It's just frustrating.

[Dana Perino]

It's almost as if they want to be unaware also. If they're asking the public to help Harold, I don't understand why they are hiding what was reportedly yelled by the shooter. Because presumably, maybe, possibly that actually would help you figure out who it was.

[Dan Bongino]

Look, this was slightly better than yesterday, but not a whole lot. I'd say a couple of things. The videos, to your point, then, the videos are incredibly important. Remember, it was Tyler Robinson's parents, the murderer of. I'm not going to. I know he's on trial, but the murderer of Charlie Kirk, who recognized his movements, he had a mask on and said, that could be our son. And the father communicated with the pastor to get this young man to commit. So for the fact that they were not to admit that it was him, the fact that they're not, that there was not a walkthrough that we did. The walkthrough of the video was really amazing to me. I was surprised that nobody in the press. I listened to the last fellow in the press who was making a statement. The press. Please don't make statements. Just ask the questions. I would have wanted to know the trains, the buses, the Airports. And we had the murder here, not just a block, two or three blocks from here. At Fox of the Healthcare Executive by Luigi Mangione, there were all kinds of efforts by our committee. We were the best police force in the country. It took a few days to find him. Commissioner Tisch shut down the bus stations, the train stations, the airports. We knew everything. It's amazing that no one asks, have you all taken that picture right there? And run AI to see within a 50 mile radius of Providence if any student looks like that with any ID if he had to swipe to get on campus. Is there reciprocity with these universities? I just don't know what the press is asking and why they're not asking any of these questions. Where's the weapon? No one's talked about the weapon. Do we believe he's holding the weapon there?

[Mayor of Providence]

Just.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not an expert in law enforcement. You would think that those on the ground might be. And if they're not, they would bring people in that could help them analyze this kind of video, these kinds of pictures. But I do think the most important thing they did was to run that video over and over and over and over again. And hopefully someone sees this and recognizes this person as a student, as a family member, something along the lines that will be able to help bring some sort of in, bring some sort of into this. And finally the president of the university, who I don't know, I was surprised she didn't know the answer to the question. Everyone. It doesn't seem like there's a coordination that there should be. If he's used the phone anytime, any communication, why not the cell towers? Why aren't we finding out if there was any bounce off of anything? Because it looks like the guy was walking around the neighborhood before and afterwards and maybe he didn't use the phone. But these are the kinds of questions I would imagine the press and the press would be asking. I mean, I'm not a law enforcement official, but I went to law school. These are just the questions you should be asking. And I hope that at some point it helps us find this guy. It has to be scary being in that community right now.

[Dana Perino]

And during the press conference, Kennedy, the Attorney General of Rhode island kept jumping in. And I presume it's because he thinks like, I'm going to have to try this case and I have to make sure that we are on the up and up on all of these things.

[Kennedy]

Yeah. And it seems as though he's surrounded by incompetent people who are going to do something wrong. And one of the missteps is going to compromise either the charging or the execution of the investigation, which so far has been very lackluster. Because on Brown, as you know, There are over 800 cameras there, which is a lot for any university. And all of the footage that they provided is from ring cams, you know, from nest cams, from residences around the school. So they're not giving us anything from within the school, which is very, very well surveilled. So that's incredibly unusual. But in terms of the particulars, if there was a student who was targeted during this class, would it have been known who was going to be there? It sounded like it was more of an informal study group and not the regular time for the class to be meeting, because, you know, we've all been through finals, you know, that you cram stuff in as much as possible right before finals week. And it felt like that's what this was. So how would the shooter have known who is inside the classroom unless they had some sort of intimate information about a person that they were targeting? And, you know, they were very quick on Sunday night to release the identity of, you know, this person of interest. And, you know, they didn't have a problem there. And they said that they were using geolocation that the Cash Patel had been talking about. So if you did, in fact, have someone who was clearly casing and you knew the time and you knew the exact place, then why can't you triangulate that? It just goes to show that there are a number of elements that other investigations have had, and they've had more successful, quicker outcomes than what we're seeing here. And that's what is leading to the anxiety. And I don't think it's particularly helpful that the president of the university is talking about everyone's feelings when you still have victims who are in hospital beds in critical condition, and you've got two students who have been murdered. And she's talking. We're talking about practice. You're talking about people's feelings. I think that they absolutely need to shore up some ends here and maybe get other people in there to talk to the press, because they're not doing a great job of instilling confidence.

[Dana Perino]

All right, coming up next, it's the comeback Democrats did not ask for. Kamala Harris gearing up for a 2028 run.

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[Jesse Watters]

We're going to have a TV party tonight.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We're going to have a TV party. The Democrats are about to get a comeback kid that they didn't ask for. Axios reports that Kamala Harris could be stepping toward another White House run. And she's even testing out a new, more aggressive message that bashes both sides.

[Dana Perino]

Both parties have failed to hold the public's trust. The people feel that the very institutions that were designed to support them have failed them. And they are not wrong. Donald Trump is not the only source of our problems. He and the rise of the MAGA movement, I believe, are a symptom of a failed system. So as we plan for what comes after this administration, we cannot afford to be nostalgic for what was in fact a flawed status quo.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So, Dana, I can't help but wonder what is going on with her. It must be hard to deal with such a profound, humiliating loss and know that you have nothing going on.

[Dana Perino]

So she's added a vocal fry.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, it's a nice twist. It's very comforting. I could listen to that. Going to be.

[Dana Perino]

I can't take it for one second.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Second.

[Dana Perino]

This is why the Democrats can't have nice things. I mean, they're going to go back to this. So she said that there's this like populist laundry list of things she was going to do. Campaign finance reform, outsourcing and offshoring. These are Bernie Sanders type things. I wonder if she's hired some of his folks to come over and try to help her because she's got to try to one, convince the country to vote for her that didn't work last time. It already failed on the national stage. But she has to talk to these younger Democrats who were like, wait, yes, no, we wanted to move on and you're gonna keep us stuck to the past. Yeah, but she added vocal fry to maybe appeal to them.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, she's status quo. Like, with a vocal fry. Jesse, she's trying to turn herself into a change agent. Right, but she was there for four years. Didn't change a thing.

[Jesse Watters]

She's been in Washington politics for decades and California politics for her whole life. So she's not an outsider. Dana's right. She wants to be a Bernie Bro. Donald Trump is a symptom of a system that's broken. I mean, we've heard that for a decade. That's nothing new. Come on. What did a consultant tell you? That it's just, like, the stupidest thing I've ever heard. But, Greg, I would like to lodge a formal complaint.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yes.

[Jesse Watters]

Against your music. That was hideous. I think you owe me and everybody watching a formal apology.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That was the classic TV party by Black Flag.

[Jesse Watters]

There was nothing classic about that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You should go get the damage.

[Dan Bongino]

You should go.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Get out of here.

[Jesse Watters]

It was awful.

[Kennedy]

I do have to.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Actually. You're right, though. I have to pick new music. I haven't done it in a while. They're just doing old stuff that I ran. Harold, when are you going to enter the race so you can quickly dispense of this delusional woman? You do realize the moment you enter, you, she has to drop out.

[Dan Bongino]

The only thing that is gratifying about this is that she's at least changed her message. I agree with Dana. This is probably not what Democrats are going to cling to and look to to be the leader, but at least she's talking about something very different. 24 was a change election. The numbers showed. The polling data shows four to one people wanted something different. I would argue 20, 25 and November was a change election. Most elections are. It's just the severity of it or the difference, the degree of it. A lot of times when you're running as a reelection candidate, you try to make it where you're going to continue to grow. And if you're running against an incumbent, you want to say you want to break from it. It's still amazing to me why no, Democrats are not talking about school reform, promoting and funding the things that are working, school systems that are working, or schools within school systems. Let's promote that. Let's fund that more. We talk around the table about crime reform. We talk about tax reform. President Trump brags about the $20 trillion of investment commitments and promises to the country. When all of that comes, I'm not sure it does, but I pray it does. When all of it comes, where are those jobs going to be created? Are we educating Americans to be able to have those jobs or we're going to have to bring more people in the country to have it? That's what I would be talking about. The only gratifying thing again is at least she's recognized that her message in 24 was a failure. She has to. Democrats have to be talking about change and have to be talking about meeting people where they are and lifting America to better ground.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Darrell playing the long game, hoping that he gets pretty Kamala's endorsement. So Kennedy Kamala railing against the status quo is like you railing against LensCrafters.

[Kennedy]

Why would I do that? I need them. Greg.

[Dan Bongino]

Yes, there you. Thank you.

[Kennedy]

She is, she is the product of the establishment. The Democrat dodo bird shat out an egg. You can say that that hatched and it was Kamala Harris. She is the establishment and it will be an impossibility for her to sell herself as anything else. The only thing I see of value in her campaign is that she is Kamikaze Harris. She is going to fly herself into Gavin Newsom's campaign to blow it up. And that is the only utility she serves in this entire landscape. And that's why the Democrat elite, the fundraisers, the donors, they are all getting into her ear, telling her that that is her mission, that is what she has to accomplish. And if that's what she accomplishes, if she blows herself up politically and also does away with his candidacy at the same time, that will be the only thing of value Kamala Harris has ever produced on the national stage.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, excellent block. I mean, it was. Coming up, how long should the company Christmas party be?

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Dan Bongino]

How long should a company Christmas party actually be? Congressman Tim Burchett says 15 minutes is plenty for his holiday get together. He hosted lawmakers in his Capitol office with snacks and Mountain Dew. Now Congress and Buret says that if they go too long, these parties, all you do is get trapped in a corner talking to someone who you don't want to talk to. You take a 15 minute, like me.

[Jesse Watters]

I will corner you and I will talk about myself for hours.

[Dan Bongino]

No way.

[Jesse Watters]

You're not supposed to go along with that, Harold. Being sarcastic.

[Ainsley Earhardt]

Playing the law.

[Jesse Watters]

I heard the Fox Christmas party went past midnight.

[Dana Perino]

It was amazing.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, because that one tall guy got up on stage and, like, ripped it up.

[Dana Perino]

Thank you.

[Jesse Watters]

What was his name again?

[Kennedy]

Nate Foy.

[Jesse Watters]

Nate Foy shut it down.

[Dana Perino]

No, he didn't shut it down. He got it going. We got it going by saying, okay.

[Kennedy]

Like, maybe we can get.

[Dana Perino]

And then everybody came to the dance floor. And then at 8:45, I left. It was a great party. I am glad that the Fox party was so amazing. But the other thing that the Congressman said is that one of the things that happens to you at parties, especially if you're on the shorter side, is people will corner you. And their bad breath is a really bad problem. You know what I'm talking about?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, I do. Should I say who it is? No. You know, did you hear about what happened after the party?

[Dana Perino]

No, what?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, here we learned.

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, I heard.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, yeah. Do not serve Brian Kilmeade burritos and Fireball. We had to completely drain the lobby fountain and fumigate its basin. It was an absolute mess. So that's why I believe in 15 minute holiday parties. Because nothing good happens after 15 minutes.

[Jesse Watters]

The fumigation costs more than the party.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, my God. They came in Hazmat.

[Dan Bongino]

Hey, Brian killed me. That did not happen. So, for those. But one great thing happened after the party. Somebody at this table got engaged.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yes.

[Mayor of Providence]

Yeah.

[Dan Bongino]

That being Kennedy. What do you think about this 15 minute Christmas party thing? That Congressman Burchard?

[Kennedy]

I mean, I had a great time at the Fox party. I had an even better time after that. I will tell you, it was a night that changed my life. But I think you have to be ripping shots if you're gonna have an effective 15 minutes. I mean, you can get it all done. You can eat, you can flirt, you can, you know, throw back green tee shots. Do whatever you have to do. Exactly. Right. Speed party. Saves a lot of money and potentially a lot of heartache.

[Dana Perino]

I'm all for it.

[Dan Bongino]

We talked about her engagement. DP Brought it up about a week ago now. So, congratulations again on your engagement.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Where are you and Kudlow planning on.

[Kennedy]

Going in this hot tub, Greg. A place you've been many times One.

[Dan Bongino]

More Thing is up next.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Oh, my God, I forgot.

[Jesse Watters]

It's so good.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Needing somebody.

[Ainsley Earhardt]

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[Kennedy]

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[Dana Perino]

It's time now for one more thing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Greg, we got a great show tonight. It's Kennedy, Jamie Lissow, Aaron McGuire and Brian Kilmeade. Let's do this, Greg. Sexy bear news.

[Mayor of Providence]

Roll the music.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You want to see a sexy bear? That's Paige the sun Bear relaxing in the Oakland Zoo. This bear has a tongue that measures between 8 and 10 inches. Relax, Don Lemon. She's already taken. Loves to eat honey from beehives. Loves to yawn and stretch in the morning on his hammock.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yum, yum, yum.

[Dana Perino]

That looks great. All right, Jesse.

[Jesse Watters]

All right.

[Colonel Oscar Perez]

Mug.

[Jesse Watters]

Root beer is now in the cologne business.

[Dan Bongino]

Here we go.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Kennedy]

No, no.

[Dan Bongino]

It's like cream.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know, it tastes like. It smells like cream. Stop it.

[Jesse Watters]

Greg is gonna be.

[Greg Gutfeld]

This always happens with Jesse.

[Dana Perino]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jesse Watters]

Unstoppable tonight.

[Kennedy]

It does smell like root beer.

[Jesse Watters]

Ladies, I'm sorry.

[Dana Perino]

It smells like root beer. That is who's on your show tonight.

[Jesse Watters]

Tonight, Jesse Waters. Primetime Happy.

[Dana Perino]

Really smell.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I feel like a clown threw up on me.

[Dana Perino]

You know what? Wrap that up for Kimmy for his present.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's in my throat. Oh, my gosh. You guys had a dollar for everybody.

[Dana Perino]

In D.C. there was a national kiss under the mistletoe National Mistletoe event. And a total of 1,435 couples simultaneously kissed for five seconds underneath the national mistletoe. And I guarantee nobody was wearing that cologne. I am positive. Beat the crushing the previous Guinness World record of couples.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Mayor of Providence]

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