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San Diego Police Chief
To the family and friends of the victims of this tragic incident. There were two subjects, both teenagers and both are confirmed deceased. I want to thank our local law enforcement partners for their quick response that undoubtedly saved the additional loss of life. The FBI is meticulously assessing the situation and is prepared to employ every resource we have to uncover the facts of this incident. No community should have to go through such a tragic incident, but we will work tirelessly until we learn the truth. We have on scene a number of special agents, task force officers, our evidence response personnel, victim specialists, and many more as we work through this investigation. We ask for your patience to determine any motive and facts associated with the shooting. The FBI continues to ask for the public's help in providing any information that could help us resolve this investigation or remind the public that any detail, no matter how small, could be useful. The FBI has set up a digital media tip line for information regarding the shooting. We ask that the public submit their tips to FBI.gov or call 1-800-call-FBI with any information you may have. Thank you.
FBI Agent
One more piece of information that I failed to put out. There is a reunification center set up at 4125 Hathaway where parents can be reunified with their kids and any other loved ones that might be related to the Islamic center. That is the location where you can be reunified. Next, I want to bring up the mayor of San Diego, Mayor Todd Gloria. Thank you, Chief.
Mayor Todd Gloria
I want to be here to reemphasize what our police chief said. The threat apparently has been addressed. Children are safe, and that is a good. Obviously, we've had the loss of life here at the Islamic center of San Diego to our local Muslim community. My prayers are with you. I want to assure our Muslim community that we will do everything it takes to make sure that you can feel safe in this city. No resource will be spared in making sure that our religious institutions and locations are protected in this sensitive time. Gagans, who responded to our calls to clear the area to allow law enforcement to do their jobs. I ask you to continue to do that. You hear? Otherwise, as Chief said, students can be picked up at the church just down the street here. You have that information already sent out. We'll just say at this time. Obviously we'll have more comments later. But at this moment, I want to simply express my immense gratitude that of all 4 million San Diegans for the incredible law enforcement response that we saw here today. As Chief mentioned, respond within 4 minutes. This is what we train for. This is what we Ask of our public safety professionals and they absolutely deliver in the way that we ask them to do so. I appreciate our San Diego Police Department, our San Diego Fire Rescue Department, our chief of the fire department is here as well, as well as our local, state and federal partners, many of whom have been in touch with me directly recognizing the gravity of this situation and why it is such a tragic situation for which there'll be a lot more work to be done in the days and weeks ahead. Again, my condolences to the victims and their families. Muslim community, one of our great leaders is here, directly impacted. This is a time for making sure that we do everything that's necessary investigate the incident that was here today. But to re, as I always will, it has no place. And when it happens and crime of any nature occurs, we will hold you accountable. Again, appreciation, public safety professionals. I'll turn it back to our chief.
FBI Agent
I'll open it up to questions here in just a second. I want you to keep in mind we're giving you what we have and what we know at this point. And there's only so many limitations. There's a limitation of what we can go into at this point until we can confirm information. So with that we'll, we'll open up to a couple questions. Yeah. So let me thank you for asking. How many, how many total to see. So we have our two suspects that are deceased. We have three victims at the Islamic Center. All three are adults, for a total of five people that are deceased related to this incident. Yeah, so we are actively investigating that right now to figure out and piece together exactly what led to this moment. And as we get that information confirmed and verified, we'll be back out here providing more details moving forward. So the suspects at this point appear to have died from self inflicted gunshot wounds. There were no officers involved in firing their weapons. But that is still very preliminary at this point. But that's what we believe right now. Two males. At this point, we believe them to be 17 and 19.
San Diego Police Chief
Identity was put out in the air pretty quickly.
Dana Perino
Was, was the suspect already known that
FBI Agent
they
Dana Perino
were aware of this before it happened.
FBI Agent
So again, we are actively investigating the things that led up to this. Obviously these things don't typically just happen on a whim. And the information that we knew preceding it is what we're actively looking into. And once we get that information verified and assembled, we will provide it. This man.
Dana Perino
Yeah.
FBI Agent
So the, the Islamic center does have security. One of the deceased is a security guard that, that works there and I think played a pivotal Role in assisting from this being much worse. Yes.
Dana Perino
Yeah.
FBI Agent
The Islamic center does have cameras and there are. There is footage. There's going to be a tremendous amount of information and details that we're going to try to sort and put this puzzle back together again. Not confirmed. No, we don't.
Harold Ford Jr.
Put out.
FBI Agent
Or was that self, Shannon? I don't necessarily know which locations were put on a lockdown. There's other neighboring schools in the area. It's standard protocol when information like this comes out with an active shooter. We try our best to get that information out and either shelter in place or evacuate from the area if it's ideally safe to do so. That would not be outside of protocol for that to happen.
Harold Ford Jr.
Just one more question.
San Diego Police Chief
Yes.
FBI Agent
So our initial officers that got on scene did not engage with the suspects in the parking lot. They began to make entry into the Islamic Center. They observed three deceased bodies outside of the center, which, you know, obviously forced them to engage in an active shooter response, immediately deploy inside of the Islamic center and start working from room to room. They did have to breach doors to get into all of the different rooms. Extremely chaotic. There was somewhere between 50 to 100 police officers inside of that facility. All of you that responded here could see how many officers and deputies from around the county that were surrounding the outside of the facility. We also have the scene a couple blocks away where we had active gunfire coming in on a landscaper that was just out there doing his job. Thankfully, he's okay, was not hit, he was not injured. But we got a lot of work to do to try to figure out what led up to this and exactly what actions took place. But I can tell you with 100% certainty the heroic actions of the responding officers and deputies is beyond words. To know that this many of our public servants are willing to leave their loved ones behind, drop what they're doing and run towards gunfire without asking any questions is remarkable.
Greg Gutfeld
You mentioned one of the victims is the security guard.
Harold Ford Jr.
Can you tell them anything about.
FBI Agent
Not yet. We're obviously making notifications as we speak to family and loved ones. And so I want to respect that. So we will be back. We will be back with more information a little bit later today. Thank you, guys.
Jesse Watters
All right. We have been listening to the police chief in California giving an update there. It's the largest mosque in San Diego area. There was a shooting today. Three adult victims are dead. There's a school on the campus as well. Two shooters are dead and apparently from self inflicted gun wounds. And they were described by the fba. FBI agent there as teens and the police chief said they believe they are ages 17 and 19. All the children at the school were safe and the police officer there, the chief saying that they will consider this a hate crime until it is not. It's still early in this situation. Just to recap, three adult victims were killed today and it appears that the suspects were two teenagers who died of self inflicted gun wounds. So more to come on that as you join the five in process. Let's switch gears now to the redistricting wars heating up across the south as some Democratic lawmakers play the race card in their fight against Republicans. As big names like AOC and Cory Booker taking the stage in Alabama over the weekend, rallying supporters at voting rights events that were taking place. Watch. Here.
Harold Ford Jr.
We are here because a white supremacist dictator known as President Donald Trump thought
Kennedy
he could silence us.
Jesse Watters
It is time for the north to pull up to the South.
Harold Ford Jr.
Here I am.
Kennedy
Here I stand.
Harold Ford Jr.
Take someone's hand and say like our ancestors did and make it true. We shall overcome.
Greg Gutfeld
There are people in this hostile anti black administration that would rather black Americans pick cotton than pick the president, then
Jesse Watters
pick their congressperson, then pick a senator, Kamala Harris. Also jumping into the conversation, the former vice president accusing Republicans of using racism to cheat in elections. They're basically backdooring racism through politics. They know the power of the people and it scares them because if they thought on merit that they would win, they wouldn't have to resort to this cheating. I've been thinking about, you know, we need to have basically a no bad ideas brainstorm. That's how I'm thinking about it, like a good old fashioned no bad ideas brainstorm. So we won't, but we could do the entire hour on this topic. Let's go first to Harold and your take on the Democrats reaction here to the Supreme Court and the redistricting wars that we are in.
Harold Ford Jr.
So good to be with you. Glad that you were back and I'm glad the book tour went well. I think about this differently than some of my friends and former colleagues in Congress. I view this as a fight that we're having over power. And the currency that is being used is obviously politics and redistricting. Now, interestingly, on the Democrat side, I've heard Senator Warnock and a few others talk about this. Senator Warnock is African American. He represents a state that is majority white, yet he was elected a United States Senator. You have four Republican black members of Congress who represent districts that are predominately Byron Donald Wesley Hunt, John James Burgess Owens. You also have a senator from Delaware, black woman senator from Delaware who represents predominantly white state, and a senator from Maryland. And obviously Tim Scott from South Carolina, Republican. I understand what they're trying to say, but I think it's important that we put all of this in context. My difficulty and difference with all of this, Dan, is that we're doing this redistricting during mid decades. Everyone accepts that there's politics in redistricting. You do it at the beginning of a decade. You count the number of people in your state. You may get a reallocation of your congressional districts, more or less, depending on how big the state is or how much it's grown or shrunk. And generally if the state has grown in population, you get rewarded with more congressional districts. And if you're a Republican governor or a Democrat governor if you happen to be at that time, you get rewarded with the opportunity to draw those districts. The court has said that race cannot be a predominant factor. The only factor in doing it. I do think we'd probably be having a different conversation. The synagogue in me says that if the Supreme Court said that you couldn't draw districts with a big number of non college educated white men, that's unconstitutional, we'd probably be saying something differently about this. I wish and hope for a day where race has no bearing at all on how we draw districts. But what I hope for more than anything, and what man can be a part of doing is saying that we will not redraw districts mid decade. For Republicans that are happy about this right now because the numbers might be in their favor, Democrats at some point are going to have the majorities in the governorships in these states and they may do the same. I pray that they don't, but they may do the same. But I caution my Democratic friends to leave the race out of it. We have a lot of progress in this country on the racial front. We have a long way to go as well. But when you have a black president in the last 20 years, you have black members of Congress who are Democrat and Republican representing predominantly white districts and you have black senators representing predominantly white states. To me that, that, that flies in the face of some of the things that we heard in our opening.
Jesse Watters
The other thing that they kept saying repeatedly in the bat signal talking points, Jesse, was that the Republicans are cheating. And I wonder how that will stick because the Supreme Court ruled and is that that's cheating. But if they like what the Supreme Court says, then it's legitimate.
Kennedy
I just noticed that AOC was speaking behind a bulletproof glass or Donald Trump doesn't even do that. Why was she doing that? Cory Booker didn't do that. Randy Weingartner didn't do that. I don't even know why Randy's there. What does she care? I mean, she. Test scores are going way down. She should be in hiding, but not there. Is there a specific credible threat against AOC's life? Shouldn't we know about this?
Dana Perino
That's still from January 6th.
Kennedy
She's still probably, you know, I don't want to make light of it or anything like that. We called her office to see why did she deliver a speech behind bulletproof glass and she didn't get back to us. Hopefully, that' syou know, there is no threat, but I don't know if there was an option to speak behind bulletproof glass. She decided to take that. Did someone tell her to do that, or did she believe she was in such danger that she needed to do that? I have no idea. But she's talking tough anyway behind the bulletproof glass, and she's behind the bulletproof glass, calling Trump weak. This guy got shot in the head, bounced up and took the White House. He's not weak. The things she's saying and the things her crew is saying are actually putting lives in danger. Calling people white supremacists, saying we want blacks picking cotton, saying that the north needs to fight the south again. I mean, this is nuts. You have a Supreme Court with two black justices, a Hispanic justice, a Jewish justice, one white justice, adopted two Haitian children. This is not a racist court. It's probably the most diverse court in the history of the country. This is not a racist country. We just found out the left was financing racism with donations. So the race card, it just doesn't hit the way it used to. And I am with my friend Harold. I think it should stop.
Jesse Watters
Greg.
Greg Gutfeld
They also.
Jesse Watters
Kamala Harris also says because of this, they should have a no bad ideas brainstorm.
Dana Perino
Yeah, we covered this last week. The moment somebody says no bad ideas, it's because they have no ideas. I've never been in a meeting where it begins with no bad ideas. And you get anything out of it. She has nothing upstairs. You know what's interesting? If you look at the. At the crowds, they're all. It's almost all white in these. In these things, which is interesting. I do admire the dedication to a fad. You know, everybody's grown up, moved on, settled down, and they're still living in the past. Those. Those leaders are living in the past, which is what the race card literally, literally is. You're living in the past to imprint it on the future. The things that they say are happening aren't happening. It used to work. We used to be paralyzed by the fear of the scarlet letter R for racism. But the race card doesn't work anymore on half the population who sees through it. The other half are just doing it out of habit. But, you know, we disarmed the left because we lost the fear. And so now it's just a gun shooting blanks. You may appeal to the voter who agrees on race, but you already had them. And absent of other tools beyond the race card, you are kind of like a. A fat out of shape fighter with no way to win but to call out the refs or just cancel the whole game. The underlying emotion in all of this is that the Dems have exploited fear. And it's not just here. If you think about, like, how profoundly awful was trans rights for kids to give perverse men the agency over our children's sexuality, how did that happen? It was like we feared this swarm of activists calling us transphobic. We feared being called bigots if we came out against illegal immigration. We feared punishing criminals because we thought we were going to be called racist. Once you lose the fear, you can finally get back to the normal way things go. And the Democratic Party, in my opinion, still has to do that. They haven't done it. They're still on the same path to destruction they've always been on, which is identity politics. It's taken this country down a terrible path. You know, Harold brought up like 20 years ago, race relations were better. All the polls show that they were better. Oh, yes, they were.
Harold Ford Jr.
Well, I just, I think the natural progression as we get better, we went to speed bumps.
Dana Perino
All right, I'm just using the polling I'm pulling at Jessica here. The rate the polling on race relations were far more optimistic before Barack Obama was elected. And then it just got worse and worse. I'm not saying it's on him, but I'm trying to figure out what happened since then. Did the KKK return? Was discrimination now decided to be illegal? Was there some kind of attack that happened? No, the only thing that happened was the attack on the idea of the melting pot. The idea that you're an American first, doesn't matter how you look or what gender you are. They created a poison, a toxin that they put in that melting pot. And now all of a sudden, race relations are worse and people are at each Other's throat, but primarily in these little factions in the identity of politic world. This is a filter, Harold, and I'm talking about identity politics. It is a filter put in place to destroy a country because it's, it's absolutely opposite. What a melting pot.
Harold Ford Jr.
We shouldn't forget. We had a. We have a history in our country where we had slavery for a long, long time.
Dana Perino
Yes, yes. We ended up. And we ended it, Harold. We fought a war to end it. I think we're. Aren't we the only country to ever fight a war to end slavery? We didn't start slavery. Where did slavery start? It's an ugly fact. It's not from us.
Harold Ford Jr.
But Greg, then we didn't. We had laws in our books that didn't allow black people.
Dana Perino
I understand that.
Harold Ford Jr.
I agree with you about the race. I wish they didn't talk about race. But would you agree with me that you shouldn't redraw congressional lines mid decade? That's what the President's doing.
Dana Perino
I don't care. I look at. I look at the contra. I look at these districts and I see all of these Republicans and no representation.
Kennedy
That's wrong.
Harold Ford Jr.
But here's the thing. I can tell you what this is wrong about race.
Dana Perino
I'm talking.
Harold Ford Jr.
We have to be on a level here. You should not redraw lines in the middle of a decade. You should do at the beginning of a decade like everyone else has done. The President decided to do it a different way.
Greg Gutfeld
That argument against Virginia and California, but
Harold Ford Jr.
they were responding to Indiana responding to it.
Greg Gutfeld
California had already redistricted into a corner. New Hampshire, beginning of the decade. I don't like the redistricting at all because this is what you get. I mean, what you get is an ongoing political war that, you know, and I have to give progressives credit for it because they have played class warfare to the hilt and they have gotten a lot of mayorships because of it. They've gotten a lot of attention and now they're getting a lot of money from establishment Democrats who are void of ideas. You know, if some of your fellow Democrats would listen to the things that you talk about consistently, your party would be in much better shape. But they're terrified to do that. And they have been terrorized by these progressives that since they played the class warfare card so well, now they're going to the race warfare card. And it's awful. It puts us in such a horrific moment in our country that it almost becomes insurmountable. And Greg is absolutely right. Twenty years ago, like we were all raised to be colorblind. We were raised to want to have friends from different parts of the city and different parts of the country. And now you are telling people that they have to be forced to live in certain areas. And if you are black and you are middle class and you want to be upper middle class and you want to use that, that economic mobility to move to a safer, better part of your state, you're being told by Justin Pearson and AOC and Cory Booker that you're a traitor. That is nonsense. We have to see beyond that in our families, in our communities and our politics. But with the attention whores like the people screaming into bullhorns today, that is an impossibility.
Harold Ford Jr.
There was a guy in Virginia radio host who told a Republican woman who was in Congress that she's against that he's against Hakeem Jeffries coming down to Virginia and trying to dictate what to do. He was fine to say that. Then he said at the end, tell him to keep his cotton picking hands off Virginia. That was race. He should not have said that. Now we can. I don't disagree with a lot of things you guys said about identity politics, but when race is obvious, it needs to be called out in this sentence. Greg, I would agree with you. Race is not obvious in what they're talking about, but we should not be redrawing districts mid decade.
Jesse Watters
All right, coming up next, Hollywood liberals are trying to stop Spencer Pratt. Chelsea Handler is begging people not to vote for him.
Dana Perino
Now this is a story all about how my life got put turned upside
Harold Ford Jr.
down and I had to take a
Dana Perino
minute to run for mayor.
Kennedy
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air. Spencer Pratt posting another banger of a campaign ad, this time riffing off the Fresh Prince of Bel Air theme song. But sadly, it didn't look like some in Hollywood are ready to go down with California's socialist sinking ship. Celebrities like Mindy Kaling, Colin Jost and Tina Fey all lining up behind far left candidate Nithya Rahman, like the noodle and Chelsea Handler couldn't resist slamming Pratt for being a straight white male.
Jesse Watters
If you're seeing this video, this is
Greg Gutfeld
a reminder that a straight white male former reality star that has no previous experience in government should not be a legitimate political candidate.
Kennedy
Meanwhile, LA Mayor Karen Bass trying to stay in the fight with her latest proposal to fight criminals with solar panels. We have a terrible problem in LA with copper wire theft, which means our
Dana Perino
street lights go out all the time.
Kennedy
Well, about a month ago, I've rolled out a plan to install 60,000 solar lights. Moving away from copper. I think that he is tapping into
Dana Perino
a general sense of anger that people
Kennedy
have, not just in Los Angeles, but in many other places around our country. All right, Kennedy, you've been following this very closely. Big weekend in the race, huh?
Greg Gutfeld
Why are people angry in Los Angeles? That's so weird. Actually, Karen Bass, I have been all across the country, especially recently. I've lived in Los Angeles the better part of my adult life. And I will tell you, people are angrier there than they are anywhere else in the country. And they are no angrier than in Pacific Palisades, where, like Spencer Pratt, they have been displaced. And under your mayorship, insurance companies, they don't have to pay for people to rebuild their homes. And they know the longer they delay, the more likely people are to take settlements that are pennies on the dollar, that are a pittance for anything that would actually allow them to rebuild their homes and their lives. There are so many people in Los Angeles who don't have to live in Pacific Palisades, who feel that anger every single day because their kids are in schools with adults who don't know how to read. Traffic is horrible. There's no way the city's going to be ready to host the 2028 Olympics. And the people who are running against Spencer Pratt are mental deficients who are incapable of having another debate. So, yes, people are angry, and they are angry because of you. They are angry because of your empty reservoirs, because of the proliferation of homelessness, the rapes that are going on in skid row, and the animals who are being abused under your watch. You are doing nothing to solve problems and cool the anger. You can take those solar street lights and shove them where the sun don't shine.
Kennedy
Dana, of all the wacky ideas we've heard. We've had the solar panels, streetlights to fight crime. We've had the barbecue ban and the free teeth for homeless. What is your favorite of all those? I know it's a lot to choose from.
Jesse Watters
Yeah, I'm going to. Yeah, I'll go to solar panels if I had to choose. I think that we're witnessing something which is something we've asked about other places, which is at what point have people had enough and are they willing to look at something different? So if the worst thing Chelsea Handler can say about Spencer Pratt is that he's a straight white male and that he doesn't have political experience, then he's doing Something. Right. Last week, I was in Houston, Dallas, Chicago, and St. Louis. At each book tour stop, if I did a Q and A, I got asked about Spencer Pratt. I got asked about redistricting. Who was going to run in 2028 on the Republican side? And the third question would be about Spencer Pratt. Why? Well, okay, so he's doing something different. He's figuring out a way to communicate to people in a different way. Who else did that? A recent mayor. Okay. Mayoral candidate who became mayor Mamdani. He barely won. Mamdani squeaked in. And Spencer Pratt is coming at a time when his numbers. If you look at the number of Republicans versus Democrats, yes, of course he's behind. But is he running the type of campaign that could do what Mamdani did in New York and just flip that? If he just. You just have to get a little bit past 50%.
Kennedy
Let's. Let's ask the straight white male of the table. Where is he?
Dana Perino
I get the feeling, like, Karen Bass heard Kamala Harris and said, no bad ideas.
Jesse Watters
Yeah.
Dana Perino
And then Camel Kamala heard it and goes, okay, that was a bad idea. I love that Chelsea Handler was encouraging her fans not to vote for Pratt. Takes a lot of ego to use the plural for fan. I don't even know what she does. Bass accuses Pratt of coming from a place of anger. So it makes me think, who are the people that aren't angry? Okay, I'll give you the homeless. It's the greatest place in the world to be homeless year round. You could do your drugs outside. You can sleep anywhere. It's a great climate, so they're just really happy. But you know who else isn't angry? People like Chelsea Handler. People like Mindy Kaling and Colin Jost and Tina Fey. These are wealthy white folks whose homes didn't burn down. They never have to worry about safety or security or gas prices or druggies on their lawn. Which is why these people have the luxury to indulge surface issues. Sexual identity, gender and race, climate, climate puffery, if you will. The whole thing's a circle jerk of elites, you know, who will vote for anything that doesn't affect them except for their status. Colin Jost, you remember this guy, lives in New York, all right? He spent 300 grand on a decommissioned ferry that he wanted to turn into a bar. That was his money. He sunk it, Said it was the worst decision of his life. And then he's telling people 3,000 miles away whose house is burned down that he knows better for them. When he made the choice to destroy a piece of property he can go tell people whose destruction was out of their hands. Tina Fey also lives in New York. Mitty Kaelin lives in a mansion in Hancock Park. These are people that are able to ignore other people's suffering because it's far enough away from them that it doesn't matter. They don't know anybody that was affected by this or they never would say this stuff. I put a challenge to them. Tell me the people that you know that suffered and then tell me who you vote for. Creeps.
Harold Ford Jr.
Okay.
Kennedy
And get that to us by five o'clock tomorrow.
Dana Perino
Yeah. Or else. And if it comes after five, I'm not gonna read it.
Kennedy
Harold, you were a big Fresh Prince fan back in the day.
Harold Ford Jr.
I was.
Kennedy
That was a nice ad.
Harold Ford Jr.
It was. I'd say this guy's creative, and it's obviously you see why people around the country are talking about him. But you look at Los Angeles and I think Kennedy said it so well. They're at a crossroads in terms of quality of cost of living and the quality of living. You're losing businesses, you're losing wealthy taxpayers. You have a homelessness issue, you have a crime issue, public safety issue. You have a housing and health care costs are out of control. This is a moment where you find politics sitting upside down. And I've tried to say to my friends out there that Democrat friends, if you don't begin offering answers, offering solutions, and stop attacking him, you could very well find yourself in a position where there's a bit of an uprising. Los Angeles and California, you guys have a history of electing people outside of the norm. Schwarzenegger should not have won. He was a Republican. He wanted a moment of crisis there in California. Even Dick Reardon, who was a moderate Republican, wanted a time in which you didn't have white men being elected mayor of Los Angeles. This is a moment here in Los Angeles, and I'm rooting for answers. Some around the table may have their part of it, but I understand why people are attracted to this guy. I left Syracuse. I was in Syracuse for a day this weekend with my daughter for a soccer game. I stopped and gasoline was $4.59. I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican, you don't want that in Los Angeles. There are specific issues. And if all we can do is talk about him being a terrible guy, him being supported by this person, him being a white male as a disqualifying factor, we deserve to lose if we end up losing this thing.
Kennedy
All right, well, Said Harold. Coming up, getting rocked with a side of guac. A violent teen takeover. Who's that? Erupts inside a Chipotle. Look at those teams trying to forget your generation.
Dana Perino
Those teens, the guac and the chairs were flying at it. Chipotle in D.C. the latest chaotic teen takeover caught on camera. But now a familiar face says, enough's enough by vowing to charge the parents. These are not kids being kids. This is criminal conduct.
Harold Ford Jr.
Parents, you're paying the bills. And if you know where your teen is and what your teen is doing and you allow them to continue their conduct and continue to allow them to flourish, then we're going to prosecute you. We are trying to identify these people. They may be teens, they may not be teens.
Jesse Watters
We don't know.
Dana Perino
And that's the point, Kennedy. Who cares if they are teens? Behavior is behavior. I'm sick and tired of people putting these words in front of, like, violence or crime. You know, political violence, you know, whatever. It's like teen violence is violence. Treat them like criminals.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And, you know, it's like the older teenagers who are doing this, they know exactly what they're doing. It's property destruction. It's violence they're instigating and they should be prosecuted. But in places like D.C. they're very squeamish to prosecute what they consider to be minors. But if they are adult acts, then you have to give them. I'm sorry, adult punishment. Because if you just send them. Because the problem is, is if you have younger people who have a predilection toward violence and you give them the easy way out and they only go into the juvenile detention system for a couple of years, then when they're adults, they have no discipline, and they start committing much more serious crimes. If my daughter were at Chipotle doing that this weekend, I would hope that Alvin Bragg came after me, because that would be a parental failing if she were doing that. And, you know, it's like, these parents should know where their kids are on
Jesse Watters
Friday and Saturday nights.
Dana Perino
Yeah. You know, Dana, usually the messes in Chipotle are in the men's room.
Jesse Watters
I know.
Dana Perino
Yes. But isn't this behavior incentivized? If you call something teen, then you make it a less severe offense. So you're gonna get more of it.
Greg Gutfeld
Right.
Jesse Watters
So that's one of the things that happens, especially in D.C. and it happens in New York as well. This is why the gang members have initiations and they make the teenagers do it. Because if the Teenagers get caught, they have a lower threshold for having to go to jail or the punishment isn't that hard, or they'll get a second chance or a third chance. And what Jeanine Pirro is saying is, like, not on my watch anymore. They're just taking broken windows theory there. At least she's trying to solve the problem. You have a mayor's race tonight. I'm sorry? A mayor's race going on right now in D.C. and there's a debate tonight, and there is a Mamdani type guy that wants to be the new mayor. And I think that this issue on crime should be front and center because what did President Trump do when he first got there? Send out the National Guard? A lot of people like, wow, things are better. DC Feels better. Why not take it to the next step and make sure it gets even more better? More better.
Dana Perino
Harold, I was shocked at your suggestion in the break. Capital punishment for parents. I don't. I think it's a little harsh coming from you.
Harold Ford Jr.
I would agree. We got to replay the tape. I agree with something Kennedy just said, that if my child or one of my kids was here, I would expect someone to come after me. Also, we live in a time, and I've troubled in the context of other conversations, there's a rot happening when kids are behaving like this. I do think there's some truth to Dana's point that some of these. There are these gangs and other things that know these kids can't get in, will not be charged as adults. And maybe our old friend and colleague is right. Maybe we should think about not only charging parents, but maybe we should think about lowering the age a year or two to try to discourage some of this activity. Now, I'm a Christian. I think people should be forgiven. But when you watch something like this and if that's your kid being beat up, I don't know all the circumstances here in the context, something more than what we're doing right now clearly needs to be done.
Dana Perino
What if the parents just aren't there?
Jesse Watters
Right.
Dana Perino
That's the. I mean, you know, we. We act like they're going to be there, but maybe they're just not there. Like Jesse. Mm.
Kennedy
You know, what are we gonna do about teen culture?
Dana Perino
I don't know.
Kennedy
I'm a. I have teens. Sometimes they leave the house on the weekend. I don't know where they are until I see them on the local news.
Harold Ford Jr.
Your parents have been held accountable for all of your activities back when you were a teenager.
Kennedy
I did not throw chairs At a Chipotle.
Harold Ford Jr.
Okay.
Kennedy
It's mostly a 13 to 19 year old phenomenon, Greg. I mean you can see it across the country in places like Maine and New Hampshire and Vermont. The good thing is, is that when the teens turn 20, they all settle down and behave perfectly.
Dana Perino
Yeah, it's amazing how it just stopped.
Kennedy
Amazing. You know, we really should do about it, Greg. We should just beat around the bush and then throw money at the problem so we feel better about ourselves and then because you know what these teens need are more after school programs.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Kennedy
Even though this happened on a Saturday night.
Dana Perino
Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's a teen problem.
Kennedy
Teen problem.
Dana Perino
Coming up next, a Chinese born Hollywood star is calling capitalism evil. My little baby brother used to play
Kennedy
down on the floor, but now he's not satisfied to do it anymore.
Dana Perino
He's got a funny habit and I
Kennedy
don't know why he walks around and see that.
Greg Gutfeld
Hello, welcome back. Poppy Liu, a Chinese born American actress who moved to the US is now raging against the machine that made her famous saying quote, my rant is that capitalism is the greatest evil in the world. Like the people that are like, oh, but like don't you enjoy the nice things? Yes, I do. And also I would be okay with it if it meant that more people in the world could live without oppression.
Jesse Watters
Like hello,
Greg Gutfeld
a real academic there, Greg.
Dana Perino
I love it. She just starred in a $20 million movie which she gets paid mid to six figures in which it glorifies fashion shoplifting by exposing it. And it's gonna go away because of that. Who's the capitalist? She's like elevating shoplifting but she gets paid for it and then the shoplifting is gonna go away. You are some radical. The great thing about these, she's the purest shallow thinker. She thinks she's being edgy, but she's as dumb as a rock. If you think capitalism is the most evil regime, don't you owe it to yourself to say compared to what don't you want to make the next step? Compared to what? They never do. They think that all they have to do is say something is bad, but they don't have to come up with something better historically so they continue like living as a capitalist and saying it's bad because that, that makes them feel better and they get virtue signal points. Why are we listening to her?
Greg Gutfeld
So if capitalism to Greg's point is the greatest evil, what is the greatest good? Like what is better than capitalism?
Jesse Watters
So she immigrates here and then she gets to make choices.
Greg Gutfeld
Right.
Jesse Watters
She doesn't necessarily have choices in China. And her choice is to bash capitalism and not the genocidal totalitarian regime that she came from. I mean, that's. It's a choice. It's not one that I would make. And she's lucky that she can keep this money and that her government from her home country isn't taking it like they do everybody else.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. And I don't hear her speaking on behalf of the Uyghurs and their plight. Jesse.
Kennedy
Capitalism did not give birth to oppression. Let's go back to medieval Europe, Okay? The peasants, their life, mud, wheelbarrows, turnips and hay. It was miserable. They had no way to improve their lot in life, neither their children or their grandchildren. It sucked. Go back to pre colonial Africa or Latin America. What did the masses enjoy there? Poor sanitation, Human sacrifice, Short lifespan. What was it? Capitalism. You can control your own destiny. You can improve your lot in life. And you can probably get a lot better standard of living compared to what it was before capitalism. Something better. Let me know what it is. Lou or Lau or whatever your name is. Lucy Lau.
Greg Gutfeld
Donate your money back to the communist.
Harold Ford Jr.
She could give all the money to society. She should stop criticizing, saying it's not the greatest evil. Now, do we need to figure out how to make capitalism work for more Americans? Absolutely. But you can't make money, criticize and say it's the worst thing. Give it back or go home.
Greg Gutfeld
Amen.
Harold Ford Jr.
Or go back to where you immigrated from. She's an American citizen. I know, but don't criticize capitalism like that.
Greg Gutfeld
No, absolutely not. You can make capitalism work for more people by lowering taxes and regulations.
Harold Ford Jr.
We've done that and it still doesn't work.
Greg Gutfeld
One More Thing is up next.
Jesse Watters
Time now for One More Thing. Glad to be back. Thanks to all of the fans that came out for the book tour. We had great crowds. And that. That was in St. Louis. And I asked people to raise their hands if they were original watchers of the Five. You would not believe how many people came out so. And raised their hand.
Greg Gutfeld
Thank you.
Jesse Watters
And that's Jennifer Pickens.
Dana Perino
Jennifer.
Harold Ford Jr.
Jennifer.
Jesse Watters
That was my security. That's James. All right, let's get you to this next thing. That's blueprint. I'm sorry, I'm trying to hurry. Greg.
Dana Perino
Oh, okay. That was rather rude to the people who don't have hands. Dana. Tonight we have Rich Voss, Kennedy. Who's that? Martha McCallum and Tyrus. I will save my sexy anteater news for tomorrow.
Jesse Watters
Well, that is a tease, Jesse.
Kennedy
All right, so this girl's graduating from college. Name's Kate Daly. She decided to kiss a gator. 14 foot gator named Big Al. She wanted to dispel myths about gators being aggressive. We'll see how that works out tonight. Jessie Waters, prime time. Aliens living among us.
Dana Perino
Eight o'.
Greg Gutfeld
Clock.
Jesse Watters
All right, Harold.
Harold Ford Jr.
Congrats to Aaron rye. Won the PGA Championship. The first Englishman to do it in 107 years. Second Indian person, Indian heritage to win a major behind Vijay Singh and university Regard is just one of the nicest guys on the tour.
Greg Gutfeld
68 foot.
Harold Ford Jr.
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Podcast: The Five (FOX News Podcasts)
Episode Date: May 18, 2026
Main Theme:
This episode addresses breaking news—the tragic shooting at the Islamic Center of San Diego—then pivots into broader political discussion, focusing on race, redistricting, public safety, local politics, and recent controversial comments about capitalism.
Timestamps: 00:00 – 10:29
The episode opens with live updates from San Diego’s law enforcement and city officials regarding the deadly shooting at the city’s largest mosque.
Police Chief’s Briefing (San Diego Police Chief)
FBI Statement
Mayor Todd Gloria’s Remarks
Timestamps: 11:38 – 24:29
After the news update, the discussion pivots to high-profile political events, particularly Democratic rallies in the South about redistricting and voting rights.
Quotes & Rhetoric at Southern Rallies (Montage, 11:38)
Harold Ford Jr.’s Nuanced Take
Panel Debate: “Race Card” and Identity Politics
Timestamps: 24:29 – 33:13
The conversation shifts to Los Angeles politics, the mayoral run of Spencer Pratt, and reactions from Hollywood liberals.
Spencer Pratt’s Mayoral Bid
LA’s Problems Under Scrutiny
Why Is Pratt a Threat?
Timestamps: 33:13 – 39:06
A viral video of a teen “takeover” at a D.C. Chipotle sparks debate over how to address youth crime.
Jeanine Pirro’s Proposal: Charge the Parents
Panelist Arguments
Cultural Commentary
Timestamps: 39:06 – 42:47
A segment responds to actress Poppy Liu’s comments denouncing capitalism despite her Hollywood success.
San Diego Police Chief (00:28):
“No community should have to go through such a tragic incident, but we will work tirelessly until we learn the truth.”
Mayor Todd Gloria (01:55):
“We will do everything it takes to make sure that you can feel safe in this city.”
Greg Gutfeld (27:32):
“You can take those solar street lights and shove them where the sun don’t shine.”
Harold Ford Jr. (12:57):
“I wish and hope for a day where race has no bearing at all on how we draw districts.”
Dana Perino (16:11):
“She’s talking tough anyway behind the bulletproof glass, and she’s calling Trump weak… These things her crew is saying are actually putting lives in danger.”
Greg Gutfeld (19:55):
“We disarmed the left because we lost the fear… now it’s just a gun shooting blanks.”
This summary covers all major topics, retains the original conversational tone, and includes speaker-attributed quotes and timestamps for context.