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Hello everyone. I'm kayleigh mcenany along with jessica tarlow, jesse waters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. It's five o' clock in new york city and this is the five. A few hours from now, President Trump will address the nation on critical developments on Operation Epic Fury. Earlier today he said Iran is begging for a ceasefire, but the US Will bomb the regime, quote back to the Stone Ages until the Strait of Hormuz opens. Here's the president promising to finish the job.
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We're finishing the job and I think within maybe two weeks, maybe a couple of days longer to do the job. But we want to knock out every single thing they have. Now. It's possible that we'll make a deal before that because we'll hit bridges and we've hit some, will hit some bridges. Got a couple of nice bridges in mind. But if they come to the table, that'll be good.
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President Trump also putting NATO allies on notice, suggesting that he may pull the US out of the alliance if they aren't pulling their weight. Secretary of State Marco Rubio echoing those concerns last night.
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Unfortunately we are going to have to re examine whether or not this alliance that has served this country well for, for a while is still serving that purpose. Or is it now become a one way street where America is simply in a position to defend Europe but when we need the help of our allies, they're going to deny us basing rights and they're going to deny us overflight.
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And Democrats are pouncing on gas prices hitting $4. But the president is firing back saying the pain at the pump will be over in no time. On gas prices today they hit $4, $4.
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Yeah. And we have a country that's not going to be throwing a nuclear weapon at us and six months.
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But Americans are feeling the effects in
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the interim and they're also feeling a lot safer.
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What is the plan to bring them back down?
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All I have to do is leave Iran and we'll be doing that very soon and they'll become tumbling down. And stock prices were up today almost to a record.
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Dana. It's a big thing anytime a commander in chief asks for primetime, which is what he's getting.
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So only a commander in chief can ask and be granted this opportunity to speak to this many people. And, and he did it in December, I believe on affordability. And it helped for a little bit. He had the State of the Union helped for a little bit. And then we had this and this is now we've been a month in I think tonight will be very valuable. And as somebody who covers the news, I feel like I'm pretty clear on what we are doing there in Iran and what we want to accomplish. I, I read this stuff all day long. I listen to everything I can. But as you get farther out into the country, that's not necessarily the case. People have their lives are working on things and they go to the fill up their tank and they're like, what in the world is going on? And the President has talked to a lot of reporters and he's done a lot of social media and it hasn't scratched the itch. And I imagine that this is something that he wanted to do early on, but he needed and wanted the element of surprise because that's when they killed, I think, what was it, the 49 leaders that were all having brunch. And that was a huge mistake on their part because they're no longer there. On the NATO front, I think not allowing the United States its basing rights is insanity. But I also think that there's a saying that if you want me to be there for the landing, I need to be there for the launch. And NATO is saying, well, wait, they have political considerations as well. They have politics that they have to deal with. Their country is they're not energy efficient like we are. So it's taking them a minute. Now, on the good news front, Britain is gathering 35 countries tomorrow to say, okay, here's how we're going to help and go forward. So there's a little bit of that also. It's a short trading week, so the markets will be closed for the holiday, I think, starting Thursday through Friday through Sunday. So maybe President Trump can get a little bit of extra time to be able to say, this is what we're trying to do, this we're going to do now. This is what we want to do. I still feel, though, that there's this big delta between the initial invasion or bombing in which the demand from the by from the Iranians was unconditional surrender. And now we're like, but make a deal, but make a deal with what? Do they still get the capabilities to have a nuclear weapon? I thought that was the thing. And the President says in that clip there that the American people feel more safe now. Not sure that everyone feels that way at the moment, but he has a chance to help them tonight to understand. The last thing I would say is there's so many different audiences for this speech tonight. There's the American people, there's the US Military, the US Military's families who are like, well, wait, my child just got sent over. What are we doing? There's, of course, our allies, our disenfranchised allies, our adversaries, our enemies. And there's also the Iranian people. And what's really sad is that because the Iranians are so awful to their citizens that no one in Iran will be able to hear what the President says tonight.
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Yeah, that's a great point. You know, 12,300 targets struck, 13,000 combat flights, 155 Iranian vessels sunk. Jesse, we'll no doubt hear about the extraordinary success of our military.
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Yeah, he's going to say we're dominating and we're almost done. The regime decapitated. The missiles, the air force, the navy pretty much eradicated. And we've all hit their defense industrial base, so they can't rearm. And the proxy is severely weakened. We haven't heard a word from Hamas. Hezbollah is getting crushed in Lebanon. And the Houthis only fired four missiles since the start of the war. The uranium. So that's the wild card. We have hit those sites extremely hard. So there's a lot of rubble that's covering up a lot of this stuff. And we have the right to seize it. And that's out there. I don't know if he's going to pull the trigger or not, but the uranium that's left over the Uranians are going to have to negotiate what we're going to do with that from an extremely weakened and vulnerable position. Now, I don't know what could happen in the next two weeks. We're seeing, we're doubling the amount of warthogs in theater. Those guys you're using when you have a ground assault on the coastline or an island, those are the guys that do the close air support when you strafe the strait. And then you also see this submarine carrying probably Navy SEAL teams, which you use to insert secretively on a coastline in the dark at night. So he has a lot of options. I have no clue what he's going to do. NATO just say, I'm very disappointed. Need we go through how much they owe us? We saved them twice from world wars. We bailed them out with the Marshall Plan. We even lowered our tariffs to zero so they could recover for decades. And then we helped them out with Ukraine. And all we want is a base. All we want is airspace for a little bit to knock out the world's number one sponsor of terror. They can't give us that. These missiles are in range of their capitals, not ours. They get their oil from that strait. We don't. The least they could do is say okay and deal with the domestic blowback. But to say no. Well, like, their economies are getting kind of murdered because they can't even sustain four weeks from an oil supply shock. Like, come on, you're not going to send one vessel to the strait. You're going to wait till the hostilities are over. Well, that's the Navy. That's what a navy's for, to end hostilities. You don't get to play cleanup when we do all the heavy lifting. This has become very entitled, parasitic, and I'm not gonna stand for it anymore.
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Wow.
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I don't know what that means.
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It sounded good. You know, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, Jessica. That's a premise we've agreed upon for decades. And this is the first president that's come from a position of strength to. To put facts. And a footnote to that premise. But Democrats are pouncing, so you may pounce if you so choose.
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In an effort to have something new to say. Today, we replay the tapes of all of the Republicans that have been critical of this or at least had some very serious questions that I think is fair when your country is engaged in a war that hasn't been pitched, sold to the American public and when the approval is so low. And what I think about this evening's address is that the President is frustrated by the other messengers who have been out here talking about this, that he gets the feedback that the goals have not been properly communicated, that the American public doesn't understand why he went in, why he did it this way, what we have accomplished and what the exit strategy is, and that he thinks he is his best advocate and the best advocate for the American military and for our mission there. And so he's out there doing it. And the four goals that have been outlined, at least in what they leaked to the press, are even different from what Secretary Rubio said just two days ago. Because on Rubio's list, he did not have anything about a nuclear weapon. And that's back on the list because that is the most important thing. That's the thing that people can identify with, or so you can't have a nuclear Iran. Now, a lot of swirl about what the JCPOA had gotten us and whether we could have done a deal that was reminiscent of that, plus some extra checks. I know that there are critics of that deal even on the Democratic side that's out there, but he is undoubtedly being forced into this position because of. And he pooh, poohed it. But over $4 for gas. His approval rating in now, every poll that we've seen this week is in the 30s. We're not even talking about the low 40s. The CNN poll, he's minus 24 with men, minus 2 with white voters who don't have a college degree, minus 17 with seniors. And 65% say that his policies are making their economic conditions worse. That is unsustainable. Not even if you're thinking about a midterm. You just can't go through the rest of an administration like that. Two big questions for me. What does he say about the NATO alliance? We talked about the impact of the Strait of Hormuz on our European partners there in the region. That's a very serious thing to be lobbying that we would want to leave. He needs Senate approval. McConnell and Chris Coons are out with a statement saying that you need Senate approval for that, which Marco Rubio knows. Secondly, the same poly market wallet that put a $500,000 bet on the exact timing of the first bomb that we dropped in Iran has put an $800,000 bet that there's going to be a ground invasion. So are we now looking at a ground invasion that's coming through. And also I would love to know who has this information and is playing the betting markets.
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Who knows?
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And I hate the prediction markets.
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I know well. But I would, I would also just
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note the other argument is the Iran nuclear deal, the weak one from Obama that gave billions of dollars to Iran, had sunset losses and Iran violated repeatedly.
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We just gave more than 14 billion in sanctions easing, which is way more than they got back with a $1.7 billion.
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Billions of cash.
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Billion.
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Billions of cash to keep the oil prices in check. Jessica.
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Okay, I get it. You know, when it's you, everything's great. But it was a fraction of the amount of money and they didn't have enough. I was completely reasonable. Jack. Gregory.
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Greg.
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Greg.
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You were reasonable.
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I will say.
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Yeah.
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So, Jess, you do bring up a good point. Trump saying we're gonna bomb him back to the stone Age, but in a Muslim country. What is that, 2010? The Dems like to talk about this war being of low approval. When has low approval ever stopped the Democrats? Every single issue. They are on the low approval side. They are squatting in the 20 of 80 20. Whether it's on taxes, whether it's on education, voter ID, trans borders, no cash flow. These are the least popular things since I don't know the View. Yeah, but I think Iran has always been like a stalling tactic, and the Dems were fine with that. And now you get a leader who says, I don't like to stall. I want to take out the nukes, the ballistic missiles, the terror groups they fund. And the Dems, however, they were fine with the drip, drip, drip of Iranian terror for decades, and yet now they demand a timetable. Sorry, you guys were stalling. Let us do the job. Four to six weeks. That's. That's not a lot to ask after 40 years. Republicans, like Jessica said, who voted for Trump based on no wars, they have a right to be vocal. But I think Trump needs to make clear tonight that this isn't a forever war. If you look at what he did with Maduro Soleimani, the Wagner group isis, this is what he does. And you have to. He's demonstrated what he does, and you should have faith in him. Like I said. But the day. But unlike the Republicans, the Dems come cannot demand a timetable. They are the wizards of endless money pits, from bridges to nowhere to high speed rails. They. They say we need more houses, but they make sure no one can build them for years. They say we need more affordable energy. You couldn't do nuclear power for decades until now. What about the homeless solutions? We pour money in. So much money that it never gets done. I think they don't like Trump because he actually tries to solve the things. And when problems get solved, the Dems don't get paid. I think for every pursuit Trump takes, it's a construction project. He still puts on his hat. Get in, get it done, get out, move on. There's no one who wants it done faster than him. Even his presidency is a job site. Literally, the White House is a job site. He tries to get everything done in the first year. And I think that is the scary part for Democrats is if a problem is solved, it does them no good. It reveals that the problem could have been solved, but they didn't solve it, and they lose power in the process of solving it. So when Trump does something quick, it causes panic. This should be done quickly. We hope it is. That's my faith.
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All right, well, coming up next, Trump makes history at the Supreme Court. That's next.
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You look like you love me. You look like you want me to watch you.
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You to come on home, baby.
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I don't blame you.
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The Trump show comes to the Supreme Court. For the first time in US History, a sitting president attended arguments in person. It was all about the legality of his day. One executive order ending birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants. The President says the goal is stopping Americans from getting ripped off.
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The reason was it had to do with the babies of slaves and the protection of the babies of slaves. It didn't have to do with the protection of multimillionaires and billionaires wanting to have their children get an American citizenship. It is the craziest thing I've ever seen. If people are making a living, a billion big living, getting hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars from bringing people in and saying congratulations, your whole family is going to be a citizen of the United States of America. That's not what it was for.
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And the numbers back up the president. Nearly 1 in 10 babies born in the United States in 2023 were born to unauthorized or temporary status mommies. But that fact is lost on liberal freaks like this guy in a pink frog costume. And check out this Democrats foul mouth meltdown. You ready? Rep. SUSIE Lee Posting and then deleting. It's a whole lot of f bombs. She's defending her comments, saying that Trump's attack on the Constitution struck a nerve. Dana, do you want to take on the birthright citizenship or you want to talk about Susie?
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Suzy I didn't even know who she was. SUZY LEE no, I will, I'll let her go.
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Sounds like you. After a few drinks.
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She's just totally irrelevant. What is relevant is a few things here. So for a long time leading up to this, people have been saying, people as in legal scholars, that President Trump was likely to lose on this. It's not that the issue isn't an important one. It's that going about it through an executive order might be the wrong way to try to achieve a policy goal over and over again. What did we face? Congress just abdicates its responsibility, walks away and presidents get frustrated and they said we want to solve something. So on day one, President Trump, who has thought about this issue for many years, he's run on immigration. He says this stops today. And it's interesting because all of a sudden the, the Democrats are strict constitutionalists and they love the originalism argument of which they have hated from Thomas and Alito, Barrett, Kavanaugh and Roberts. But now all of a sudden they're like that's not what the Constitution says. And so as somebody who I've always believed that let's stick with the Constitution. However, I also think that there's nothing wrong with the Supreme Court saying to the Congress this issue should be fair, fixed, but it's not. Going to work with just this executive order. Now, maybe it'll turn out that the President wins on this one. But this is the last point I'll make on this that I thought was so disturbing because I don't really understand it. Maybe somebody here is going to explain it to me. In 2006, I was Deputy press secretary, and the average poll of how people felt about this issue was that 45% of Americans thought that everyone who was born in America automatically became a US citizen. 45%. Today it's 69% think that anyone who was born in America, even after all of these things, all these stories, people coming here just to have their babies. And I'm not sure where public opinion changed on this. I could maybe take a guess, but it's gone up steadily since 2006. And so if Congress were to take it on, I'm not sure how it would turn out.
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Well, if you're a green card holder, Jessica, you come here, you have a baby, that baby's an American citizen, and that's fine. What you're saying is if you're a legal aid alien whose allegiance is to Guatemala, and he crosses over and dumps a baby out, then all of a sudden they're a citizen and so is the mother or a tourist from China to come in, have a baby in like American Samoa, and then go back to Beijing, it's being abused. You'd agree with that?
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Not. Not completely.
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Do you agree that that's abuse?
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Some degree of it, yes. But the numbers. And Justice Roberts, Chief Justice Roberts was batting the government back on that particular issue, saying that you are picking a few isolated incidents for then a sweeping judicial theory and that he wouldn't go along with it.
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Whoa, that's 9% of the births are from people that aren't really American citizens. That's not. That's not.
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But I'm saying, which I'm not on the Supreme Court, all I can do is ingest what I saw the exchanges were and then report them. And the evidence that the government was using, talking about birth tourism, talking about how kids of diplomats don't get citizenship, so why should this be different, et cetera. Justice Roberts was pooh, poohing it. That's what was happening. Dana's totally right about the close 70% of people who approve of birthright citizenship. Right now. I think you get into very sticky territory if you're talking about people who are on even temporary visas. If someone overstays it by a week or two, you have people in the US Government right Now, Marco Rubio, Cash Patel, Usha Vance. These are people who have their citizenship because of birthright citizenship. And you know that today didn't go well because Donald Trump's true social post once he left was, we are the only country in the world stupid enough to allow birthright citizenship. He didn't say the government kicked butt. He didn't say, we're going to win this thing. He said, basically, I'm throwing a temper tantrum and a couple.
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That was a fact. Is that not a fact?
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It doesn't.
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That doesn't matter.
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No, it actually doesn't matter because you know how he behaves when he's excited about something.
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You know, you're focusing on emotion and not the fact. The absolute.
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The government did not seem in certain exchanges to be prepared to come and talk to these justices. Like Neil Gorsuch is going to ask you about Native Americans. He always talks about Native Americans. No response about what was going to happen there.
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Justice Barrett talking about it's already been adjudicated, Native American.
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He said, oh, I don't think so. No. Did you hear him? Did you listen to how he responded? He said, I don't know. I don't think so. Justice Barrett, another time that happened.
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You're ignoring some of the facts that were laid out today. You say this is a small sliver false. Go check out the data from the Government Accountability Institute, which they made reference to today. One million people they believe went to the Northern Mariana Islands from China and became US citizens. There are 500 firms, this was listed today in China, that make this a cottage industry inserting the Chinese Communist Party into our country. Now, what this could translate to, according to Eric Eggers, is 1.1 million new voters by 2030. I think we can all agree that that is a perilous state. If you have people from China coming over giving birth, 1 million new voters by 2030, that is a big problem. And it is inconceivable to think that the framers of the 1868 14th Amendment, that's the year it was ratified and had an idea that 4 billion women in the world could come here, give birth, take a plane ride and boom, you're a US Citizen. It's inconceivable on its face, Greg.
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Yeah, you're an illegal and you come here and you have a baby that is not a citizen. And it amazes me that by saying that you are somehow portrayed as harsh by saying something that is so unfortunate, obviously sensible, that like if you it makes, as Donald Trump says and it's so mean. And I'm going to get to that. No other country does this. No other country does this. And why? Because nobody wants to do it in those countries. There's nobody clamoring in to try to game the system to have babies in Haiti. All right, so you're saying they're all coming here. What does that tell you? The system is being gamed. So how did this happen when you're talking about these polls? I don't think the polls are real, but I do think that there has been a shift due to redefining in the last, I would say 15 or 20 years. Redefining common sense, patriotism as intolerant, xenophobic, but most important, mean. So if you think about every segment that we do or every position we're on, we are always portrayed as mean. So when you say men cannot be women, men cannot be in women's sports, you are intolerant and you are mean. If you say illegals need to be deported, all illegals, I think the worst first. But in the long run, you never know who the worst is first because you let them all in. Yes. That is so mean. You think this guy should go to prison? I mean, he had a terrible upbringing. Yes. He should go away for 25 years. That is so mean. Every single policy that the Democrats try to shove down your throats is based on the fact that somehow when you take a stand to protect your country or your family, it's somehow mean. This is like, I really do think this is a dangerous culture now. I keep thinking to myself, what if the supporters of birthright citizenship were gung ho patriotic Americans who said we need to do this? And we align it with a dedicated citizenship assimilation path so we have the American ideal protected, valued, cherished. I'd be like, wow, that's pretty amazing that these people feel that way. But the problem is the people that are pushing birthright are the people who reject American culture, who reject assimilation, who embrace the so called tenets of diversity and identity politics, who believe that America as an idea is not just flawed, but evil and in need of radical change. So I don't trust this is why all the arguments about birthright citizens are what ifs analogies. Kenjin Jackson Brown. My favorite artist was comparing it to getting your wallet stolen in Japan. They cannot live in the real world where you see the incentives and you see the actual data. So instead they live in analogies and then they look at you and they go, you're just mean. And everybody said so. We have this poll that says you're just really mean for believing this way. I don't care. We're right on this. Anybody's an illegal has a baby in your country and that makes that baby a citizen. No, but duh.
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Does Justice Roberts then fall into the category?
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I don't know. He's got.
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I just think that.
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Also not right about everything. And Supreme Courts have made decisions and so have politicians that have been wrong and were left that way for a century. I can think of a couple of them, Jessica, that were then overturned.
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But we let Congress off the hook over and over again. Britain did have birthright citizenship in the late 1800s. They changed it. By law. You can do something without an executive order that's going to fail in the Supreme Court. It just takes a little gumption.
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Watch your mouth.
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You and Susie.
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Wow. Gumption.
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Coming up, Nancy Pelosi hopes the third time is a charm for a woman to win the White House.
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I come along too strong.
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Just wanna hold you close, baby.
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Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi stepping back into the spotlight as Democrats look ahead to 2028. So after some liberal strategists suggested the party should just go ahead and pick a white male nominee, Pelosi pushed back, saying a Madam President is on the horizon.
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I hear a lot of CHATTER Going into 2028 about, oh, Democrats can't have a female nominee.
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Do you think that that is fair?
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No, I don't.
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I think Hillary Clinton was going first place.
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Most qualified person of the generation. Certainly more qualified than the creature that is there now. So. But it was just a question of getting people, I guess, used to the idea a woman could be commander in chief. It will come time soon.
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There's just no question about it.
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Meanwhile, one of the male contenders already measuring the White House drapes. California Governor Gavin Newsom going viral after getting emotional during an event. Encouraging young men to build job skills and support their communities. Watch.
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I'm also weird, Sean, you know, forgive me.
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This is embarrassing.
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You can turn all that off.
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Everybody's getting each other's throats and trying to tear everybody down. And, you know, how are we going to get out of this?
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This is it.
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It's like, why are we so stupid?
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Hey, Jesse, is it Hillary's time to shine?
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Well, Nancy says there will not be a female president in her lifetime. And I say, thank God. I hope there's not a female president in my lifetime.
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Why would you say that?
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You know what many people are saying, Jessica? Many people are saying, do women have the.
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You are just jumping off a Cliff, just because you're bored. Emotional maturity, you are just bored.
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Many people are saying, do they have the personal contacts in the business world to manage the economy? Many people are saying, Greg, do women have the respect of the generals?
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Who said that?
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Many people are saying women don't have the sense of humor to be president. I've heard that from a lot of people. None of those things I believe, but I believe Gavin Newsom could be the first woman president because when I hear him talk, he sounds like a woman. The kind of emotional instability, you don't know whether he's having a midlife crisis, an identity crisis, a crisis of confidence. I read the book and it's great. And he's got so much potential with his athleticism, his hair. He's a genuinely nice guy. But the only reason he's running for president is to prove his worth to his father and to get back at all the bullies who beat the crap out of him in middle school. Now I'm saying don't run for president. Run to see a psychiatrist. And set.
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Let me go to the other male on the panel here.
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Am I right, Greg, am I right?
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Right.
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No, I don't think you heard me.
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I had. It's weird. There are some people whose energy is contagious. You know, they inspire you to get up and move. I'm like that. I'm Viagra for your brain. Gavin's energy is inward and it's kind of exhausting to watch. You don't leave inspired, you leave kind of confused and spent. Like, what did we just watch there? He's like a one man performance art troupe called the Conflicted Narcissist. You know, people are not attracted to selfish energy. They're protect. This is to me, self expression is his priority because he's too lazy to prepare. Like he didn't have anything to say. And he's crying over paid volunteers, which is an oxymoron like Fox and Friends.
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And
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I think that maybe, maybe he has some very serious issues that need to be attended to maybe four or five weeks away.
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Jessica, woman president in your lifetime.
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I certainly hope so. And I would just like to point out to Jesse that President Trump ran for office because Obama made fun of him at the White House correspondents.
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That's a myth.
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He denied that.
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Yeah, he denies everything that he denied.
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That's actually been debunked.
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Okay.
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He looked, he said he enjoyed it.
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Kayleigh, will Blake be the first woman president?
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Hey, she may and I would take that any day. Look, I do agree that There are challenges for women running for president. There's different expectations. But I totally disagree with Nancy Pelosi that the reason Hillary Clinton loss is gender. I think the basket of deplorables grossly generalizing about American society. Honest and Trustworthy numbers at 30%. No economic message. Not going to Wisconsin.
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Not going to Wisconsin.
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As long as they keep using the women excuse, they're never going to win.
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I think that for, for Nancy, she has wielded so much power and so effectively for so long that she's like, we could definitely do this.
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Like for president, you go bl get some great policies.
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I'm looking for something to compliment. All right, up next, Bruce Springsteen takes his anti Trump gripes on tour and Greg will do an imitation.
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So tell me.
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Democrats prepping their lineup for subpoena palooza in the hopes they take back power. Axios, my masseuse is reporting the Dems are getting ready to sic the legal dogs on anyone and everyone in Trump's orbit. That targets law firms, media companies, ballroom donors and any execs that cozied up to Trump. Meanwhile, Democrats TDS poster boy Bruce Springsteen kicked off his resistance concert tour by ranching in the dark.
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The American that I've written about for
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50 years that's been a beacon of
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hope and liberty around the world is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, racist rebel and crazy.
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That from the that from the poor man's John Cafferty. Thank you, Jesse. Are you worried that you're going on the hit list or would you be insulted if you're not?
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Good question. I am not on the hit list and I'm not insulted. But just think about what we've been doing over Saigon Epstein and the Biden cover up and they're going to look into who donated to the big beautiful ballroom. This is getting a little ridiculous.
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Exactly. You know, Kaylee, let's be clear. No matter what anything's been done in the past two years, they were going to do this anyway. Which is why I say get rid of the filibuster because they're going to do that anyway.
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100%. Puerto Rico, D.C. states packing, the Supreme Court coming your way and an end to the filibuster to do it. These are Democrats background into reporters that they're ready to fight, which is probably smart. You want to rile up your base. But if I were Democrats, not to give them free advice, but I'd be backgrounding to reporters. I want to pass Elizabeth Warren's credit card interest rates bill. I Want to pass Josh Hawley and Warren's bill to break up big medical companies and get those to President Trump's desk and see where he stands on these issues. If I were Democrats, that's what I'd be doing. Backgrounding my legislation, not so much my. My fight.
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Do you think Jessica Springsteen is doing all this to hide his connections to Epstein?
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No. Is that even a conspiracy theory?
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Oh, no. It's all there, black and white.
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Really?
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I don't know.
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I hadn't seen that document. I.
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We want to be very clear.
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Yeah.
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Why am I cleaning this up? Too many lawyers.
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It's really bad if Jesse even knows that, especially after what he said about the death.
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I didn't say. I said. I'm talking about Steve Epstein, my next door neighbor.
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Oh, yeah, and like the random doctor on Long Island, Jeffrey Epstein, that caught that stray with a G from Congresswoman Crockett back in the day. This is ridiculous.
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Okay, you can pass.
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Great.
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Dana, last word to you.
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Well, it's really kind of funny to see them melt down on a big, beautiful ballroom when if I were trying to get corporate America to come on my side, I would be telling them that they are going to do things that corporate America wants. And Jamie Dimon was on Fox and Friends yesterday, and he laid it all out very clearly. And that includes the governors who are losing people to red states all over. So I don't think corporate America is going to take too kindly to us.
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I don't think so either. And you know what? If Michelle Obama wanted a ballroom, they wouldn't be whining about it. Coming up, minutes away from ignition for Trump's moon mission.
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In just 32 minutes, NASA will send American astronauts on a trip around the moon for the first time in nearly 50 years. They won't be landing on the moon this time, but it'll serve as a test for future missions. The goal is to one day create a US Base on the moon. Very exciting. Greg, do you love space?
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I love space. I fear, though, that China beat us to it because they. They found a stack of takeout menus. But as a kid, I always remember the moonshots, you know, sitting in front of the tv, feeling that national pride. And I'm just waiting for the Dems. Your party, Jessica, to find a way to ruin it. You know, they're going to talk about the climate footprint of the rocket ship. I guarantee you that will be a story. And were there any LGBTQ astronauts on board? Where is the diversity? Is that an accurate representation of the human race? To potential aliens out there.
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I'm glad that I won't be at work tomorrow. So I want to talk to you about that. Dana, what do you think?
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What I think is amazing is I think the new NASA administrator is terrific. And there's great leadership and there's vision and this is amazing. Look at what Americans can do. Look at all of this. This is so amazing. And yet you look at Congress and they can't even pass a budget. That is an incredible dichotomy to me.
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100%. Building a long term foothold up there is pretty cool.
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It is. And we will beat the Chinese and we're gonna have a little space camp. And we're bringing a Canadian. Did you hear that? There's a Canadian coming.
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Yeah. 51st date.
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Yeah.
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Now, Now. See? See? We're gonna get the moon.
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Maybe they're gonna leave him there. Little prank.
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Take that.
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What do you think, Kaylie?
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Yeah, I just. I have a flashback to May 27th of 2020. And we went to Kennedy Space center, me president, and we were ready to watch the first astronaut go into space in a decade. And it didn't happen. It was scrapped May 30th. It did happen. I got to bring my daughter Blake, and my husband. We have this great picture watching this launch, first time in a decade. So it's so neat. It's so cool. And I love that. President Trump wants to land on the moon. A man landing on the moon by 2028.
F
Jessica, you know what? I heard he's going to rename it the Trump Space Center.
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I would not doubt that at all.
A
Oh, my goodness. Yes.
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If you're watching and I know you like this show, especially when I'm not here, you should name it the Trump Space Station. One more thing's up next.
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Just keep breathing. And breathing and breathing and breathing. Keep, keep on breathing.
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It's time now for one more thing. And Jesse has a bunny.
F
We got a feeding frenzy. Here we go. Look at the size of this thing. This bunny's almost as big as Greg. This is 10 pounds of chocolate. 22,000 calories, Greg.
D
Oh, my God.
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And you're supposed to eat it after you break it with a hammer. Should I hit it with a hammer?
C
Yes.
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Oh, my God. Look at that hole. That was awesome. Right in the head. Go check this out. I don't know where you buy it, but you buy it somewhere. Tonight, previewing Trump's address to the nation.
A
Wow. Way to up the Easter game with my kids. That's amazing. All right, Greg.
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Tonight we got gad Tim, Jamie Lissow Kennedy, Tyrus All Stars. Let's do this. Grant Seal Team 6 with Bruce Springsteen. Let's roll it.
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A harbor seal named Reggae at the New England Aquarium played with rubber duckies, but he's trying to find them. You just shot your vocals for your show.
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I know. I'm exhausted.
A
Who's on your show? Anyone?
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I already did it.
A
Oh, okay. Sorry, Ms. Montana. Sorry.
D
I'm terrified of going in the ocean, and here's a good reason why. This is why.
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I don't windsurf.
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Watch here. This guy's just windsurfing along and boom. Guess what he gets hit with.
B
Whale.
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Whale.
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Whale, whale.
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Okay.
D
This is another reason why.
F
Oh, Jesus.
C
He's got a lawsuit against Joy Behar.
D
Jessica.
E
Talk about a story with a hoppy ending. Chesney, an adorable kangaroo, is back home after a three day search. He escaped from a petting zoo in Wisconsin by hopping over the fence after being frightened by barking dogs. Community came together and Chesney was found.
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You know what his listen to the
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Date: April 1, 2026
Host & Panelists: Kayleigh McEnany, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld
Main Themes: Trump’s Address on Operation Epic Fury; NATO tensions; Gas prices; Birthright Citizenship Supreme Court case; Gender & 2028 Race; Subpoenas and Dem strategy; Moon Mission
In this wide-ranging episode, "The Five" delivers a charged, sometimes raucous roundtable on the news dominating the nation: President Trump’s primetime address on Operation Epic Fury in Iran, US-NATO relations, spiraling gas prices, a pivotal Supreme Court hearing on birthright citizenship, and early maneuvering in the 2028 presidential race. The panel examines the stakes, the public mood, divisions between the parties, and the spectacle of politics in a turbulent America.
(00:04–10:55)
Trump Readies Primetime Appeal:
President Trump will address the nation on military action in Iran, touting immense battlefield success and signaling potential escalation until Iran sues for peace.
NATO Frictions & European Reluctance:
Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio criticize NATO allies for withholding basing rights and overflight support, questioning ongoing US participation in the alliance.
Gasoline Prices & Public Mood:
Democrats seize on $4/gallon prices; Trump claims prices will plummet once Iran backs down, and reminds the public that “they’re also feeling a lot safer.” (01:58)
Varied Public Understanding:
Dana Perino notes the disconnect between DC insiders and the broader nation, arguing Trump’s speech must clarify the US’s goals for millions not closely following, especially military families and allies.
Military Scorecard:
The panel recites staggering statistics: 12,300 targets struck, 13,000 combat flights, 155 Iranian vessels sunk. Jesse Watters points out Iran's loss of “the regime decapitated” and looming options for US escalation—including doubled “warthogs in theater” and potential SEAL deployment (05:20–07:56).
Democratic Critique & Approval Troubles:
Jessica Tarlov voices skepticism about the administration’s messaging, highlighting Trump’s plunging poll numbers and public confusion about war objectives and exit strategy (08:16):
(14:48–25:56)
Historic Presidential Attendance:
Trump attends SCOTUS arguments in person, defending his executive order to end birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants; claims the intent of the 14th Amendment was “the protection of the babies of slaves.” (15:09)
Public Opinion & Legal Skepticism:
Dana Perino recounts how public support for birthright citizenship (the 14th Amendment) has grown from 45% (2006) to 69%, questioning congressional abdication on the topic (16:27–18:35).
Panel Arguments:
Security & Demographics:
Kayleigh and Greg push the risk narrative: 1 million Chinese “birth tourists” could add 1.1 million new voters by 2030 (21:08).
Culture War Framing:
Greg Gutfeld links “mean” labels to patriotic stances: “Every single policy that the Democrats try to shove down your throats is based on the fact that somehow when you take a stand to protect your country...it's somehow mean.” (22:20–25:25)
(26:23–31:28)
Pelosi Pushes Back:
Nancy Pelosi rejects the suggestion Democrats must run a white man in 2028, affirming confidence in women (“Madam President is on the horizon”).
Newsom and Male Contenders:
California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s emotional remarks go viral—but draw panel ridicule.
Panel Skepticism:
Gutfeld on Newsom: “He's like a one man performance art troupe called the Conflicted Narcissist. You don’t leave inspired, you leave kind of confused and spent.” (29:30)
Hillary Redux?
Kayleigh dismisses the “lost because she’s a woman” argument:
(31:54–34:26)
Democratic Strategizing:
Axios alleges Democrats are preparing to target all Trump-affiliated entities and donors if they retake power—a “subpoena-palooza.”
Panel on Political Tactics:
Panelists decry Dem threats, warn of aggressive court-packing or filibuster-busting tactics, and recommend focusing on policy rather than vendettas.
(35:30–37:48)
NASA’s Moon Mission:
Celebration as the US prepares to send astronauts around the moon for the first time in 50 years—prelude to a base by 2028.
National Pride vs. Division:
Dana marvels at the contrast between NASA’s achievement and Congress’s dysfunction:
Personal Stories:
Kayleigh fondly recalls attending the 2020 SpaceX launch with her family: “I got to bring my daughter Blake, and my husband. We have this great picture watching this launch, first time in a decade.” (37:14)
Trump on Iran (00:38):
“We're finishing the job...we want to knock out every single thing they have.”
Jesse Watters on NATO (07:56):
“This has become very entitled, parasitic, and I'm not gonna stand for it anymore.”
Jessica Tarlov, framing war’s disapproval (08:16):
“The goals have not been properly communicated, [and] the American public doesn't understand why he went in, why he did it this way, what we have accomplished and what the exit strategy is…”
Dana Perino, on political responsibility (16:27):
“For a long time...legal scholars [say] Trump was likely to lose on this...it's that going about it through an executive order might be the wrong way to try to achieve a policy goal...Congress just abdicates its responsibility, walks away…”
Greg Gutfeld, on “mean” politics (22:20):
“Every single policy that the Democrats try to shove down your throats is based on the fact that somehow when you take a stand to protect your country...it's somehow mean. This is...a dangerous culture now.”
Watters on Newsom (28:12):
“The only reason he's running for president is to prove his worth to his father and to get back at all the bullies who beat the crap out of him in middle school. Now I'm saying don't run for president. Run to see a psychiatrist.”
This episode of "The Five" captures the combative, at times mocking, energy of the panel as they process fast-breaking national and global events. The discussion spans foreign policy brinksmanship, Supreme Court drama, gender politics, campaign machinations, and moments of humor and nostalgia. Each co-host remains true to their style, and the mix of seriousness, sarcasm, and headline-chasing makes it a brisk, pointed look at America's current crossroads.