Pro-Kimmel Protestors Hold Rally Outside ABC

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The Five

Episode: Pro-Kimmel Protestors Hold Rally Outside ABC
Date: September 19, 2025
Host and Panel: Jesse Watters, Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarlov, Emily Compagno, Joey Jones

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Overview

This episode of The Five dives into the controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension from ABC, the political and public reactions to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, escalating heated rhetoric between Democrats and Republicans (notably accusations of "fascism"), and new drama from prominent Democrats, with a focus on excerpts from Kamala Harris' book. The panelists discuss media reactions, cultural divisions, accountability in broadcasting, and the toxic nature of today’s political discourse.

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Main Topics & Key Points

Jimmy Kimmel’s Suspension and Media Fallout

(00:34 - 13:06)

• Public Protests and Media Response:
  Jesse Watters opens by highlighting the rally outside ABC by pro-Kimmel protestors, claiming the left seems more outraged by Kimmel's suspension than by Charlie Kirk's assassination.

  • “Censorship has got to go... the left is more outraged over a late night comic getting suspended than the cold blooded murder of Charlie Kirk.” – Jesse Watters (00:34)

• Kimmel’s Remarks and ABC’s Decision:
  The suspension followed a string of inflammatory comments from Kimmel, particularly jokes analogizing President Trump’s mourning of Kirk. ABC’s executives and affiliates, reacting to advertiser and viewer pressure, decided to suspend him.

  • “He said that the way President Trump is mourning Charlie Kirk is the way a, quote, four year old mourns a goldfish...” – Kellyanne Conway (06:13)

• Government and FCC Influence:
  Jessica Tarlov disputes the narrative that Democrats care more about Kimmel than Kirk’s assassination. She pushes back against claims of government overreach, citing confusion over FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr's role.

  • “The premise that Democrats are more concerned about Jimmy Kimmel than they were about the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk is completely unfounded.” – Jessica Tarlov (04:04)

• Employer vs. Free Speech:
  Joey Jones says this is an employee misbehaving, likening it to previous FCC-related suspensions (e.g., Howard Stern), emphasizing network standards and brand integrity trumping individual speech rights in this context.

  • “...the employer's interest in brand integrity indeed outweighs an employee's right to free speech...” – Joey Jones (10:13)

Reaction to Charlie Kirk’s Assassination & Political Tensions

(13:06 - 29:25)

• House Resolution and Democrats’ Response:
  The House passed a resolution honoring Charlie Kirk, with 58 Democrats (including AOC) voting against it. AOC’s speech is played, critiqued as dismissive.

  • “Democrats said all the right things...that violence, political violence has no place in our society. And we were met with, this is your fault, and we are at war.” – Jessica Tarlov (04:04)

• Escalating Rhetoric: “Fascist” Accusations:
  Democrats, notably Rashida Tlaib and Maxwell Frost, are criticized for labeling Republicans as “fascists” in the wake of the assassination.

  • “Fascism is not on the way. It is here.” – Jesse Watters quoting Democrats (24:27)

• Impact of Hyperbolic Language:
  Emily Compagno references Greg Gutfeld’s point that the “evil” label toward the political opposition justifies extreme rhetoric and even violence.

  • “If you're evil, they can justify anything on their side to push against you. So the reason why that matters is when you start using hyperbole...then you'll start to believe that anything...is justified and moral to push back against it.” – Emily Compagno (25:43)

• Hypocrisy and Double Standards:
  Both sides are accused of hypocrisy in their rhetoric, with Tarlov countering that Trump and Republicans also use extreme labels.

  • “Looking back at what Trump said about Kamala, even from just that short 107 days. She's a fascist. Okay? She's a fascist. She's a Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist, actually. She's not a socialist. She's gone.” – Jessica Tarlov (29:30)
  • “You guys have called us this word a lot. You can't control yourselves. We can't control you.” – Jesse Watters (31:31)

• The Danger of Radicalization:
  Joey Jones and Tarlov agree violent rhetoric (from both sides) can contribute to tragic outcomes, referencing radicalized individuals.

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Kamala Harris Book Drama

(13:43 - 22:59)

• Key Revelations and Backlash:
  Excerpts from Kamala Harris’ book highlight internal Democratic conflicts and grievances. Harris reports Biden calling her before a debate to chastise her, and details criticism of high-profile Democrats like Pete Buttigieg and Josh Shapiro.

  • “I just couldn't understand why he would call me right now and make it all about himself. Says the woman that makes it all about herself.” – Joey Jones (13:43)

• Panel Reactions:

  • Emily Compagno: Sees it as a cash grab, believes the book proves Harris isn’t running.
  • Kellyanne Conway: Compares Harris to Hillary Clinton, saying both lack charisma and effectiveness and are now increasingly isolated.
  • “She truly is one of the least remarkable, least inspirational vice presidents.” – Kellyanne Conway (20:27)

• Mismanagement and Voter Disconnect:
  Panelists argue Harris’ drama and lack of “joy on the job” doomed her and that donors and voters won’t return to her.

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Jasmine Crockett's Comments on Crime

(33:23 - 38:03)

• Viral Quote and Panel Outrage:
  Jasmine Crockett is mocked for stating, “just because someone has committed a crime, it doesn't make them a criminal...being a criminal is more so about your mindset.”

  • “I am shocked as well by the audacity of some kind of statement like that. Because to what end?...just because this person did this violent crime, they're not a criminal.” – Emily Compagno (34:50)

• Poverty and Crime Discussion:
  Tarlov raises the point that diapers are in high demand for low-income families, pushing for more charity and highlighting the reality of resource theft out of necessity.

  • “So if you do have extra diapers at home, please donate them.” – Jessica Tarlov (36:09)

• De-stigmatization Tactics:
  Watters suggests the left is attempting to destigmatize crime for poor and minority offenders while demonizing “white-collar” crime.

• Squad/Squad Critique:
  Conway: “The squad that doesn't do squat. They're famous for being famous...Let her talk as much as she can.”

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• On Kimmel Suspension:

  • “If you're not a reporter, check. You're not an entertainer, you're certainly not a comedian. Not funny.” – Kellyanne Conway (06:13)

• On Kamala Harris’ Book:

  • “A book like this cements that. It is one thing to air out dirty laundry, another thing to tell on yourself.” – Emily Compagno (15:29)

• On the Use of ‘Fascism’:

  • “Fascism is not on the way it is here.” – Rashida Tlaib, as quoted by Jesse Watters (24:27)
  • “If you're evil, they can justify anything on their side to push against you.” – Emily Compagno (25:43)

• On Charlie Kirk’s Assassination:

  • “...the real victim here is Charlie Kirk, and he's not alive to defend himself.” – Joey Jones (10:55)

• On Hyperbolic Rhetoric:

  • “That is the moment we're in. It's true for either side. But conservatives think differently. They don't think in absolutes in the same way that Democrats or liberals do when it comes to this stuff.” – Emily Compagno (25:43)

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Additional Noteworthy Segments

• Phone-Free Movement:
  Andrew Yang’s initiative for “phone-free parties” is briefly discussed. Mixed reactions from the panel, with most agreeing time off phones is positive—if voluntary.

  • “If I'm with someone and they're on their phone constantly, I look the other way or I divorce them. And so that does. That has happened.” – Kellyanne Conway (39:29)

• One More Thing:
  End-of-show lighthearted stories—from alligator rescues to a father delivering his baby in a car—offering a respite from the heavy political topics.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Pro-Kimmel Protests & ABC Suspension: 00:34 – 13:06
• Kamala Harris Book Drama: 13:43 – 22:59
• Usage of ‘Fascist’ and Political Rhetoric: 24:12 – 32:17
• Jasmine Crockett Crime Comments: 33:23 – 38:03
• Phone-Free Parties: 38:35 – 39:59
• One More Thing / Lighter Stories: 40:28 – end

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Summary & Tone

The episode is combative, sarcastic, and at times deeply personal, reflecting The Five’s trademark mix of commentary and debate. The dominant narrative is that the left and much of the media are hypocritical regarding free speech, accountability, and civility, and that liberal rhetoric is contributing to radicalization and violence. The hosts place significant weight on the consequences of language, while also mocking the inability of some Democratic leaders to inspire or unify voters. The lighter segments at the end offer a quick palate cleanser after heavy discussion.

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Transcript

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[Jesse Waters]

Hello everybody, I'm Jesse Waters along with Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarlov, Emily Compagno and Joey Jones. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five Censorship has got to go pro. Jimmy Kimmel protesters holding a rally outside ABC offices in New York City showing them that the left is more outraged over a late night comic getting suspended than the cold blooded murder of Charlie Kirk. According to reports, Jimmy Kimmel was about to double down on attacking maga, making himself the victim and say critics were twisting his words, but Disney execs feared he would just make things worse. And now late night is rallying around Jimmy and he called Jimmy Kimmel. I still have a show though, right? Kimmel was suspended by ABC after pressure from the FCC, leaving everyone thinking WTF? I've always admired and respected Mr. Trump and if you've ever seen me say anything negative about him, that's just AI. We have another fun, hilarious, administration compliant show. What are you doing? Shut up. And Democrats are continuing their collective freak out. Tampon who had a Covid snitch line says Kimmel's suspension proves we're living in North Korea. Ever wondered how democracy dies? You're witnessing it. It's one of the most outrageous affronts on this this is North Korea style stuff. If Congress is willing to say we're going to completely abdicate even this most important power, then what is left to constrain a runaway presidency and in particular presidency that is heading more and more towards dictatorship. It's unacceptable, it's unconscionable, and it's un American. Meanwhile on Capitol Hill, House passes a resolution honoring Charlie Kirk and 58 Democrats voted against it, including AOC, who used her floor speech to smear Kirk.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant, uneducated and sought to disenfranchise millions of Americans. Far from the working, quote, working tirelessly to promote unity unquote asserted by the majority in this resolution. It is equally important that Congress does unite to reject the government's attempt to weaponize this moment into an all out assault on free speech across the Country.

[Jesse Waters]

President Trump slamming those Democrats. Just today, the House Democrats voted against condemning the political assassination of Charlie Kirk. Who could vote against that? Condemning all they're saying, please condemn the assassination of a human being. And they said, no, then we're not gonna do that. Jessica, the Kimmel situation, have you seen a lot of people really that upset about it? I don't see any big rallies in the streets or massive protests anywhere. Just seems like the media is more upset than anybody.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, the media and politicians and everyone. All the editorial boards of the nation's biggest paper, including the Wall street journal that wrote Mr. Kimmel's words were only moder. We want to be clear that none of this justifies the right's resort to regulatory censorship. And the premise that Democrats are more concerned about Jimmy Kimmel than they were about the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk is completely unfounded. Democrats said all the right things that all of us felt about that it was tragic, that violence, political violence has no place in our society. And we were met with, this is your fault, and we are at war. There's been this move today to rewrite the story of how Jimmy Kimmel ended up being indefinitely suspended to absolve Brendan Carr of his role in this and the government's larger role in it. But the timeline just doesn't add up. I've heard we'll read the Hollywood Reporter and read the Wall Street Journal on this. I looked through all of it, and the common denominator is that Brendan Carr said to Benny Johnson, we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way. And the affiliates who are already freaking out about it for sure decided then that they were going to pull it. And so ABC and Disney in general, Bob Iger, had no choice but to do it. There are some smart Republicans that are cautioning them to come back from this line. Ted Cruz, of all people, who's the chair of the Commerce Committee, which actually has oversight over the fcc, said what Carr said there is dangerous as hell. That's right out of a Mafioso when it's used to silence conservatives. We will regret it. We should denounce it. So I understand now, we don't live in cancel culture. It's just consequence culture. And you think an eye for an eye is a good solution to everything. That's what I've seen pelted at me about this. Well, you did that. You did this. You did this. You did this. That is not a way to run a free society. And you can't just trample on the First Amendment because something tragic and horrible happened.

[Jesse Waters]

So if all the advertisers were flooding the zone and a lot of the affiliates were saying, we're not going to run this, and all the executives were getting inundated with emails from angry viewers across the country. And isn't that just the marketplace, Kellyanne, saying, this guy's got to either apologize or we're not running the show?

[Kellyanne Conway]

Yes, this was a simple market based movement. The customers didn't want it. Dave Smith from Sinclair said, this is insensitive and it goes against the values and what we're hearing from our listeners. It's not that Jimmy Kimmel just said a random joke and didn't invoke the late Charlie Kirk, I rest assault or President Trump. He did all of that. He said that the way President Trump is mourning Charlie Kirk is the way a, quote, four year old mourns a goldfish, thereby analogizing our president and commander in chief while he's overseas representing us to a four year old and to the fallen Charlie Kirk, a friend to, I'm sure everyone around this table to a goldfish. People are tired of it. And by the way, the consumers also stopped watching him a long time ago. Same thing that's happened to Colbert has happened to Kimmel. Nobody's watching you because you're not funny. If you're not a reporter, check. You're not an entertainer, you're certainly not a comedian. Not funny. These late night shows are watched by Democrats. The rest of us don't want this lack of, you know, this left wing loser fest slop late at night. Most of the guests are left wing. Most of the dialogue is anti Trump and people are tired of it. They want to give this guy a moment to succeed. Now, aoc, she's no longer even interesting to watch. She's turned into Mazie Hirono and Kamala Harris when they're both in the Senate together. I have look, I have memorize the way they all part their hair. They're constantly looking down, reading the stuff other people wrote. Am I? Are you? No, they can't. She's reading that for the first time, something that a staffer wrote for her. And even in this moment, when they're all saying, can we have more civil discourse? Can we all be nice bipartisan, blah, blah, blah. They can't just say yes to a resolution that honors the life and legacy that someone who built his career on civil discourse, on open dialogue, on allowing people to challenge him and, quote, prove him wrong. They can't even just that they can't condemn the killer. And Jessica, this all started for a very simple reason. Kimmel lied. He lied on behalf of ABC and Disney that this assassin is, quote, one of us, meaning one of Maga. This guy is like Kimmel. Twisted, ignorant, unfunny, savage.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But it's up to his employer to decide what happens. Not up to Brendan Clark.

[Kellyanne Conway]

No, Brendan Clark didn't do this.

[Jesse Waters]

No, no, no.

[Jessica Tarlov]

He's gloating about it. He's using gifts of Jackson in the office.

[Kellyanne Conway]

You're using a nexus. That's not there.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's not the case. It happened on Betty Johnson's show.

[Kellyanne Conway]

No, no, no to that. But the affiliates did what they wanted to do. And this is a business decision and it's a moral decision.

[Jesse Waters]

You know, it's funny, they keep saying that Trump suspended Kimmel. I believe Bob Iger at Disney was the one to do that. If they should be mad, they should be mad at Bob Iger.

[Joey Jones]

And that's right. That's why it's so laughable to me that this is anything other than an employee employer dispute that one should see is inarguably an employee that has misbehaved. We all remember Deflategate, we all remember Tom Brady and everyone's freakouts about the suspensions. But that's an actual union contract that dictated per precedence that yes, there's accountability and there's a certain sentencing that occurs when an employee misbehaves. Remember in the 90s and the 2000s, Howard Stern, the FCC was fining and suspending or was fining a lot of these affiliate stations. So the networks were suspending them. And everyone sued the FCC and everyone sued the networks. But courts upheld that. Yes, if these guys are not following the then indecency standards. Absolutely. That they can get the ax. And you cut to today's standards and today's courts, and they have held resoundly that the integrity of an employer's. Let me get this right. The employer's interest in brand integrity indeed outweighs an employee's right to free speech or to say what they want. So you put that against the climate that we've discussed where you have a host on entertainment, entertainment is his gig. Well, that means you want as many eyes as possible. You want to be as popular as possible. Well, he instructed half the country not to watch him. His ratings absolutely plummeted when people took him at his word and also found him unfunny. And so therefore this is either three strikes when he's inaccurate, when he's inflammatory, when he's unfunny. But most importantly, on a network here where we uphold the highest standards of credibility and accuracy, I can see quite clearly that indeed this was someone who was fired for not upholding his network standards and for being inaccurate and doubling down. You think there's not an employer on the other side of the desk that writes his employment contract? This is at will. That's nothing to do with free speech. And the real victim here, might we remember, is certainly not Jimmy Kimmel, who can just go on a podcast or his only fans. The real victim here is Charlie Kirk, and he's not alive to defend himself.

[Jesse Waters]

Jimmy Kimmel, OnlyFans.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, I didn't know about that.

[Jesse Waters]

Provocative.

[Joey Jones]

There's always an issue.

[Emily Compagno]

There's no guarantee for free speech or misinformation or hate speech. That's Tim Waltz. This is a matter of corporate responsibility. Twitter should be held accountable and shut down. That's Kamala Harris. And this is. I believe that when it comes to broadcast television like Fox News, these are subject to federal regulation in terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't. That's aoc. Are you asking me, do I think Jimmy Kimmel should be taken off air for making really bad jokes about something that's sensitive to me?

[Jesse Waters]

No.

[Emily Compagno]

Am I going to shed a tear for him? No more than I did for the American citizen terrorist that Barack Obama droned dead. Sometimes common sense prevails. Sometimes you go too far. If we're going to have a legal, ethical conversation right now, okay, but that standard doesn't apply all the time. If we're doing anything right now, we're watching the Trump administration use the left's logic against them, and they're absolutely losing it. There are people in this country who are libertarian, who have only ever advocated for free speech, who have all the right in the world to be upset. Right now, Democrats, Kamala Harris, Tim Waltz, AOC have no room to say a word about this at all because they've done nothing but advocate for the same against Trump. What are they going to do? You know, if they were in charge of Congress, they'd start an investigation and they'd use all of our resources to find out just what the FCC chair said, while the rest of us are both mourning Charlie Kirk and trying to decide if our country is so effed up that we can't come back from it, while our families at this table are wondering, can we give a public speech again? You know, the one thing that didn't come through was a big gun debate. Because this is an old rifle from World War II. I mean, the person that was killed tragically before that was killed with a knife. Maybe now people will learn that there's some rottenness in souls, not just the tool they use that we could have some come togetherness about and try to fix. I don't know if this guy they caught is the one that killed him. It certainly looks like it. There's a lot of questions I have, the least of which is Jimmy Kimmel being treated unfairly.

[Jesse Waters]

All right ahead, drama queen Kamala burns it all down. We pay tribute to I'm Guy Benson in for Dana Perenno this week on Perennial On Politics. I'm joined by FOX News contributor, outkick columnist and host of the Getting Hammered podcast, Mary Katherine Ham.

[Brett Baer]

My dear friend, listen and follow now@fox newspodcast.com.

[Joey Jones]

Well, the Queen of Democrat drama is at it again. Kamala Harris is burning all bridges in her new book, 107 Days. As we get brand new excerpts. Before her debate with Trump, apparently Biden called her to complain that she was badmouthing him. Quote, I just couldn't understand why he would call me right now and make it all about himself. Says the woman that makes it all about herself. But the drama didn't stop there with Harris saying that Josh Shapiro was more focused on himself and the art he wanted to decorate his VP office with. She scolded Tim Walls during the debate with Vance and said this, quote, you're not here to make friends with a guy who is attacking your running mate. Gavin Newsom snubbed her phone call after Joe dropped out and texted her, quote, hiking will call back, lol. Her first choice for running mate was Pete Buttigieg, but she didn't pick him because he was gay. Mayor Pete and Governor Shapiro are firing back. Watch.

[Jesse Waters]

I was surprised when I read that.

[Emily Compagno]

I just believe in giving Americans more credit than that.

[Jesse Waters]

My experience in politics has been that the way that you earn trust with voters is based mostly on what they.

[Emily Compagno]

Think you're going to do for their.

[Jesse Waters]

Lives, not on categories. I haven't read the former vice president's book. And she's going to have to. She's going to have to answer to how she was in the room and yet never said anything publicly.

[Joey Jones]

Right. That's my question to you, Joey. So she's in this sort of like circular firing squad right now. What who is this serving? I'm curious because instead of a book about her complaints, which this is, feels like we're sort of reading her diary versus really? The memoirs of a vice president. So what do you think her aim is here?

[Jesse Waters]

I don't know.

[Emily Compagno]

I quit trying to figure out Kamala Harris last November. I took a break because I can't figure her out. I mean, you would think that. Okay, so this team of rivals, I guess is what Lincoln would call it. These folks that she brought in and looked at who's going to be the vp, of course that's who she's going to run against this next time. Some of them, like Pete Buttigieg. He's around for as long as he wants to be until he screws it up. He's young. I don't know what her Runway looks like in politics, but maybe it would be better served than California, because I think she's burning bridges left and right. I mean, it's not the Pete Buttigieg and Obamas and Bidens of the world. It's the people that write the checks that are like, she's toxic. Let me get rid of her. A book like this cements that. It is one thing to air out dirty laundries, another thing to tell on yourself. And if you're too gay to be the vice president for the Democrats, like, what does that even mean? Like, she's indicting the entire country. Oh, there's no way they'll vote for a gay man and a black woman. And it's like, who are you? This is insane.

[Joey Jones]

That's a great point. Antonio Brown, for example, was released in part because he was essentially this like, toxic tumor among the team. So are these donors seeing her as like, well, no one's gonna hire her anymore, cuz all she does is ruin the locker room. Or do you think she knows her prospects are over and that's why she's doing this?

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, it's a cash grab. You said it the other day, she's not running and this proves it. But I can't believe no one said this, but women gossip. You didn't think having a woman as your vice president, this was going to happen? Women love to talk. Anything you tell them, they will gossip about. And she put it in a book. What did you think was going to happen? And you know who else did you binder? The two most high profile women in the Biden administration ran out immediately and did it gossip the whole thing. Now Biden threatening Kamala Harris on the eve of the debate to tank her in Pennsylvania if she keeps talking about him behind his back is straight up gangster. And it tells everybody that he absolutely tried to put President Trump in Jail. This is the kind of gangster we're talking about. I know he gave the thumbs up for Trump's Mar A Lago raid after listening to this story. Now, Shapiro, the first thing you're thinking about, if you might be offered the vice presidential nominee is decorating. And they thought Pete was too gay. That would not be the first thing that went through my mind. But Newsom, I like that he was hiking, because hiking is good. But I didn't like that he didn't call her back. And this is Newsom's problem, avoidance. He never steps up and meets the moment. You gotta call this woman back. You gotta either say, I don't want to be your vp, which is smart, or if she's asking for support to get the nomination. You can't hide in the woods. And that's what Gavin does. He hides in the woods on the biggest issues, like, is Joe Biden all there or should men be playing women's sports? And then he floats off later and says, no, you gotta meet the moment.

[Joey Jones]

I feel like there's a million girls. You probably didn't call back. Anyway, Jessica, here's what I wanted to ask you about, because I don't think it's gangster of Joe Biden. I feel like it's Tonya Hardy, Nancy Kerrigan. It's a weak, feeble attempt to trip up someone that, according to him, was. Weren't they unified?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah. That was the most alarming anecdote in all of this to me. Because you would think even if you had nerves of steel, that you're going into a presidential debate. You only have 107 days to run this campaign. You did not expect to be top of the ticket, and then to have the president, United States of America, the guy who handed you the baton, the guy who's saying, okay, well, you're the one now who has to save us from a second Trump term and, you know, the Democratic future of the country. And then he calls up with some, like, whiny thing. It's completely inappropriate. It's downright mean. And clearly she is trying what wanted her to lose. Yeah, that's downright mean. You just don't do.

[Kellyanne Conway]

He's not why she lost. She's why she lost.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I. The Josh Shapiro comments, he. It was longer in his interview with Stephen A. Smith. And one thing that he said that I thought was really important was, you know, she's going to have to answer for what happened. She said, I told. He said, I told Biden and his team that he wouldn't have won Pennsylvania and that he was worried about it. And he is the first elected and the first potential 2028 contender that I've heard say. I confronted Biden to his face and to his team's face and said, you are not doing well in this state and you cannot win the presidency without Pennsylvania.

[Joey Jones]

Yeah.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So he's distinguishing himself that way, I guess.

[Joey Jones]

George Clooney, too. What about you?

[Jesse Waters]

What do you think?

[Kellyanne Conway]

I still don't understand the theory of the case for Kamala Harris. She reminds everybody now why she lost all seven swing states, the popular vote, a lot of women that would have otherwise voted for a woman. And one reason is very clear. Like Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris seems to lack not just charisma and authenticity and effectiveness, but they don't seem to have anyone around them who will say, that's a bad idea. Today was a bad day. We shouldn't give that speech. You should show up here. They were shocked. She and Waltz, according to this book, were shocked that they lost. And how can you be shocked when all signs pointed to President Trump romping and stomping all over you? And indeed he did. It's because that they are told by people, trump will never make it again. He'll never be in the White House. We're going to make sure he's in the big house. All this, you have to have people around you who are willing to speak the truth. And the other thing about her is it's all this 107 days. She had over 1,000 days as vice president. Name one thing that you thought was remarkable about her. She truly is one of the least remarkable, least inspirational vice presidents. And here's why. It's not just Joe Biden that didn't have energy, alacrity and competence day by day, most weekends, and plenty of work days. The vice president, Kamala Harris official schedule says there's nothing on her official schedule. Go back and look at it, particularly at the beginning. They stopped releasing it after a while because people like me were saying there's nothing on her schedule this weekend. She's in California having fun. She lacked energy and alacrity. I didn't know until I read this that she's anti Semitic. She wouldn't have the Jewish guy who was going to upstage her. I didn't know she was a homophobe, Jessica, that she wouldn't have pee, but so I learned more about her in the excerpt to this book. But I also think the biggest problem for her is this. What is her purpose in the future of a Democratic Party? That is broken. Usually if your party is broken, you do look at folks who have held the job before. That can't be Biden for all the obvious reasons, but it's not a 60 year old woman vice president. What Democrat is that saying, Kamala Harris, please come campaign for me. I want you to headline my fundraiser. No one's asking her to do anything of note to them. This happened to Hillary Clinton. She basically was sort of shunted aside. They're complaining that she really won and that people stopped asking her to come and campaign. They asked Bill Clinton, they asked Michelle and Barack Obama, and I think she's going the way of Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump has beaten two women for president because he was seen as the more authentic, effective, competent, joy on the job candidate who was going to get things done. He said, they broke it. I'll fix it. Wasn't just Biden who broke it, it was Biden Harris that broke it.

[Joey Jones]

All right, guys. Well, up next. Nine days after the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the Democrats are back to calling Republicans the F word. And I think it's really important. We need to stand up against this fascist takeover. That's not a bad word. It's a fact.

[Jesse Waters]

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[Kellyanne Conway]

Nine days since the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk, and Democrats are still refusing to give up on the same ugly rhetoric that puts targets on Republicans back. Maxwell Frost and Rashida Tlaib are using the F word.

[Jesse Waters]

Fascism is not on the way it is here.

[Joey Jones]

We need to stand up against this fascist takeover. That's not a bad word. It's a fact.

[Emily Compagno]

It's insane.

[Jesse Waters]

Do I look like a member of the Third Reich to you? Ms. Talib, please. Is that what I look like to you?

[Joey Jones]

You're the one taking your.

[Jesse Waters]

Is that. Is that what you think?

[Emily Compagno]

Is that what you think?

[Jesse Waters]

Is that what you think?

[Kellyanne Conway]

No, that's unethical.

[Jesse Waters]

I think.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Wow. Just unstable and unhinged. Joey Rashida Tlaib seems to have been going through it for the eight or six years she's been in Congress menopause a really long time now, and she needs to get over it. But always screaming, always frothing. These people are in safe seats. So they have no incentive whatsoever to look at you as a human being to even look at somebody across the aisle and say, I'm sorry your friend Charlie Kirk died. I'm going to vote in favor of this resolution condemning that and honoring his life and legacy. But this goes a step further. Rashida Tlaib was saying a fascist takeover in terms of President Trump cleaning up crime in Washington, D.C. where I live. And I'm grateful for that. They won't even accept his help when it comes to, when it comes to cleaning up crime. But square this for us. 77% of Republicans agreed in a YouGov poll that it's, quote, always unacceptable to celebrate the death of a political opponent. Half that number, 38% of Democrats said the same.

[Emily Compagno]

You know, I'm sitting in Greg's seat and Greg made this salient point years ago about this idea that Democrats have convinced themselves that once you're against them, you're evil. And if you're evil, they can justify anything on their side to push against you. So the reason why that matters is when you start using hyperbole, if you want to call it that, like fascist, Nazi, you know, you were trying to destroy democracy. Really top line arguments from Democrats in the last five to 10 years since President Trump has been here, attacks on Republicans. If you start to believe that stuff, then you'll start to believe that anything like a revolution, civil war, whatever, anything is justified and moral to push back against it. That is the moment we're in. It's true for either side. But conservatives think differently. They don't think in absolutes in the same way that Democrats or liberals do when it comes to this stuff. I don't know a conservative out there who hasn't made an off color joke that also believed it. That is in my world and I come from blue collar America. Off color joke being, you know, like, man, be heck if, you know, Air Force One just didn't come back from Europe or something like that when Biden was president. Off color joke is a lot different than going on the floor of the House and saying things or going on CNN and saying things or going in front of hostile audiences and saying these types of things. I'm not going to sit here and blame anyone, but whatever evil person that killed Charlie KIRK but in a moment where four years ago the narrative is flipped, we talk about the hypocrisy in a moment where you could actually start to do something that looks like killing, that looks like, hey, we're not going to go that far anymore. I mean, you're in a win, win scenario if you're Democrats, right? Say that, do that. And then if Republicans do it anyway, if they do it on their own, say, oh, but we were good here and you're not being good. That's not what they're doing. What they're doing is they're trying to raise money. Byron Donald's, I think, talked about it. He said you can say whatever you want to because you can just go raise money off of it. Rashida Tlaib is probably a great example of being over the top. But it happens with Hakeem Jeffries. It happens with Chuck Schumer as well.

[Kellyanne Conway]

EMILY they never disagree on policy anymore. They never say, I disagree with you on the following policy. So I'm going to talk about that. They look at these cue cards that someone born this century wrote for them and they, they go off on people calling the names. And I would say, because I know this firsthand, putting us in harm's way.

[Joey Jones]

I was shocked by that outburst on her. On Rashida Tlaib's part, I should say I'm not surprised, but I was still shocked nonetheless. To me, it was the definition of hysterical in the true origin sense of that word, where we saw an absolute zero to 60 meltdown, like a toddler meltdown. And to your point, completely beside the point. I was shocked that that person is a sitting congressperson. And when we discuss the horrific and unforgivable murder of Charlie Kirk, there can be no denying that the person behind it, that the monster behind it, was radicalized online. And the origin of such is normalizing violent rhetoric. And when you normalize calling someone of the opposite political persuasion, things like Hitler and fascists and the like, then, as you said, what other choice do you have but to eradicate that threat, to go back in time and, to our applause, extinguish the the fact that the Democrat Party fails to see that there indeed is a participation that many have played in the violent rhetoric, including Kamala Harris, who called President Trump a fascist. Now it's fashionable, but it is nonetheless no less violent, terrifying and carrying the risk that other vulnerable people who did not deserve to die will have a target on their back because people like that don't see it.

[Kellyanne Conway]

JESSICA Is there anything that Emily just said that you can possibly disagree with.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, actually. Or maybe just in addition, because we're just having a conversation about it. I would love it if nobody would use this kind of rhetoric anymore. And I think Amy Klobuchar made the point very well when Cash Patel was in front of the Senate this week where she just said, I just want this to stop. I want people to stop demonizing each other. I want people to stop talking about each other this way. But that road has to go in both directions. And you say that the Democrats normalize this just in preparing for the show. Looking back at what Trump said about Kamala, even from just that short 107 days. She's a fascist. Okay? She's a fascist. She's a Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist, actually. She's not a socialist. She's gone. Oh, that's funny. Somebody's got to explain this. This is a radical left, communist, fascist. Politics today is between these far left fascists led by Harris and her group. And I know that we are supposed to live in a world where we don't take Donald Trump seriously because he just splatters everything all over all the time. And so we shouldn't think he really thinks she's a fascist or whatever. But that kid sitting at home who's been radicalized online heard all those things, too. Yeah, but he wasn't radicalized. But there is a reason that the Justice Department removed a study from their website showing that the majority of ideological motivated murders in this country by far and away were carried out by right wing extremists. They took that down this week.

[Jesse Waters]

Why? Because forget about this study. There's actually bullets flying.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

They are going, he almost got hit again. And Ryan Routh wrote fascist all over the Internet. And you know who else scrawled it on the shell casings? The other dingbat fascist that killed Charlie.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yes.

[Jesse Waters]

And all they do is they graffiti it all over the cars. And then antifa fireballs are a novelist fascist. Because he ran out of saying that she was dumb. That's your word. I was making fun of it, but Jessica, just listen.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, I am listen. No, no, it was. It was literally my turn.

[Jesse Waters]

Please, if you don't mind.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I do mind.

[Jesse Waters]

You guys have called us this word a lot. You can't control yourselves. We can't control you. Nancy can't. No one can at this point. Say it. Say it all you want. I'm done complaining about it. Because when we complain. Please don't say it. We're warning you. It's putting people in danger. Everyone's getting shot. Their cars are getting firebombed. Conservatives can't give a speech at a college. I'm done with saying it. You guys are going to say it. It kind of reminds me of little kids when they call you a name and then you react. They're like, we're going to call that name again.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, definitely us.

[Jesse Waters]

Call us whatever you want. Call us the F bomb. Call us the real F bomb. I don't care anymore.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay, you don't care anymore.

[Jesse Waters]

I don't.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Denying the fact I will never react.

[Jesse Waters]

To the F word again.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Violence committed against name calling didn't Democrats and left.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Bulleted up. Speaking of speaking of unhinged. Up next, Jasmine Crockett is back saying some really, really stupid things about crime.

[Emily Compagno]

Recently we asked some people about sharing their New York Times accounts.

[Kellyanne Conway]

My name is Dana. I am a subscriber to the New York Times, but my husband isn't. And it would be really nice to be able to share a recipe or an article or compete with him in wordle or connections. Thank you, Dana.

[Emily Compagno]

We heard you introducing the New York Times family subscription. One subscription, up to four separate logins for anyone in your life. Find out [e-mail] family Jasmine Crockett making unbelievably stupid comments about crime. Watch this.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I do want people to know that.

[Joey Jones]

Just because someone has committed a crime.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It doesn't make them a criminal.

[Joey Jones]

That, that is completely different.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Being a criminal is more so about your mindset. Committing a crime can come for a.

[Joey Jones]

Lot of different reasons.

[Jesse Waters]

It could have been like a crime of survival if you're trying like you stole like diapers because you have like no money versus a criminal mindset which is like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna evade taxes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

I'm gonna be super duper corrupt. Yeah.

[Emily Compagno]

Emily, quite revealing revelations there. I guess we didn't know what a criminal was.

[Joey Jones]

I was laughing especially at just, you know, that the Zoolander esque response of people who listen to this drivel. And oh yes, I mean, it is so patently offensive when we exist in a society too. I am curious to know her thoughts then on upon a felony conviction, why everything from insurance to credit cards get canceled? Our bank accounts get canceled. The rising population of us veterans in the incarcerated state of single mothers, the largest increasing population in prisons and so much more that when she talks like she's behind this pulpit, why can't there be a substance that might actually help her constituents? I am shocked as well by the audacity of some kind of statement like that. Because to what end? And then do you look, for example, a woman in the face who was pistol whipped and punched and had her jaw shattered in addition to being punched with shards of glass in a thing so that there was blood and water pouring out of her mouth. And you're going to tell her, well, just because you're victimized, you weren't a victim, or just because this person did this violent crime, they're not a criminal. I mean, I hate using the word dumb on air, but I am shocked that that person holds office. And I hope again that whoever's running against her next time uses this video as their campaign ad.

[Jesse Waters]

JESSE they did this with Illegal Alien. Remember, they say no human being is illegal. So what they're doing is they're trying to detach, they're trying to destigmatize crime, right? They're saying if you're poor, you can get away with it. In the inner city, the real criminals, the white collar criminals, I think you see what she's doing with the races. I have never seen anybody steal a diaper. If you saw a woman get caught stealing a diaper, it would be everywhere. It would be on every news show. She would be on GMA the next morning. And we show a lot of looting. VIDEO have you ever seen them steal diapers? I've seen them steal a lot of iPhones and sneakers and clothes and electronics. I've never seen someone come out with diapers. Now, diapers, you can get about 30 diapers for $8. It's not one of those things that people steal.

[Jessica Tarlov]

JESSICA so diapers are one of the resources most in need for low income families. We have at my child's preschool, at everyone's preschool, there are diaper drives. It's in excessively high demand. So if you do have extra diapers at home, please donate them. They have to be in the package that is a very good price that you're getting out by you. And if that's the case, then people should be giving a lot of money to make sure that people can have those kinds of resources. Because you can't have a baby that doesn't have a clean diaper.

[Emily Compagno]

That's a much better comment than talking about Jasmine Crockett.

[Kellyanne Conway]

KELLYANNE Jasmine Crockett would say, just because you need a diaper doesn't mean you're a baby. That's her logic. So anyhow, people out there, yes, there are. So I I'm struck by Charlie Kirk had posted this on X in April and it was a poll that said 56% of those who identified as at least left of center said that if someone murdered Donald Trump, they would be at least, quote, somewhat justified. And 50.2% said the same about Elon Musk. So, you know, when crazy, unhinged people like this start out with, you're not a criminal. If you commit a crime, it goes all the way to calling somebody a fascist, all the way to somebody being radicalized like it has consequences. I have changed my tune, though. There was a time not that long ago when I would roll my eyes and say, oh, my God, not Jasmine Crockett again. I actually love when she talks. I immediately feel so smart. And I think women out there feel the same way. Let her talk as much as she can. She's part of the squad that doesn't do squat. They're famous for being famous. At this point, I don't find them to be fascinating at all. We just saw three of them on the show. We featured them. There was a time when they really looked like they were leading the Democratic party to what? I don't know if this guy was letting her get away with it, Emily. Or just kind of amused. I mean, when you hear something so ridiculous and wrong headed in the moment, you think, did that just happen? But let her speak.

[Emily Compagno]

All right, well, I think the term is useful. Idiots. All right, the fastest it's up next.

[Jesse Waters]

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I take a look at my life and realize there's nothing left after my accident.

[Brett Baer]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

Welcome back. A touch grass movement is building in America. Andrew Yang is throwing phone free parties. Jesse, I really like this idea. I think it'd be good to get off our phones.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, I don't. I don't ever bring out my phone at a party ever.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Really?

[Jesse Waters]

Ever. Yeah, no, I don't like to do it. I don't. Sometimes I don't even bring my phone into the party. I just, I keep it in the car. It's better that way.

[Joey Jones]

Emily, you know what I love is when you refuse to even bring it out when someone's like, wait, what's that guy's name again in the movie? And still we refuse to pull it out to look it up on Google. I love this idea to Leave it in the car. Because there's something worse than hanging out with people and having someone either buried in their phone or wanting to take pictures of every moment instead of being in the present.

[Emily Compagno]

Joey, Andrew Yang is 50 years old with two kids. Why is he throwing any kind of party at all? Why is party even in his lexicon? This whole thing is creepy to me. This is a tech guy. He's supposed to love phones.

[Kellyanne Conway]

All right, Kelly, it's a good idea as long as it's voluntary. I don't want anybody in the government, which he's tried to unsuccessfully run to lead several times, telling you what to do. I'm all for phone free engagements. I agree. Honestly, if I'm with someone and they're on their phone constantly, I look the other way or I divorce them. And so that does. That has happened. But anyway, the other thing is, I.

[Jesse Waters]

Find men don't look at your phone.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Andrew Yang is a little more interesting when he's on his phone.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right, one more thing's up next.

[Jesse Waters]

Are you taking me out of the ordinary? I want you laying down. You can get this.

[Brett Baer]

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[Jesse Waters]

Time now for one more thing. You ever want to know what it's like to get inked? I don't mean tattoos. I mean when you catch a squid and it sprays you with ink. Oh, to the face, that's what.

[Emily Compagno]

And the guy says, is that ink or are you happy to see me?

[Jesse Waters]

Exactly.

[Joey Jones]

Oh, my God.

[Jesse Waters]

Tonight, Jesse wears primetime Kavanaugh's trans wannabe assassin. See what I'm talking about, Jessica?

[Emily Compagno]

Joey, listen, mine's real quick, real simple. Tomorrow night, starting at 5pm will be the first night of the big weekend show with myself and Tommy hosting. Please tune in and check it out. We're real excited to bring you the best show possible for just three hours.

[Jesse Waters]

Just three.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Just three hours, Jessica. Okay. I am going to promo Greg's show. Do not worry, I am not on it. But he has a very exciting show. Kat Timf, Jamie Lissow, Charlie Sheen is on, and Emily Compagno in all her beauty. And Greg is there, so you'll have him as well. He just isn't feeling great now.

[Jesse Waters]

All right, that looks like a good one. Thank you.

[Joey Jones]

Okay, I'm profiling this amazing woman who fought an alligator to save her puppy from the alligator's jaws. All caught on film, everybody. This is not for the faint of heart. She literally repeatedly punched him. Maybe it wasn't caught on film. This is her describing it. Anyway, she's clearly a tough cookie and.

[Jessica Tarlov]

She saved her little puppy's life.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, I was looking forward to the gator fight.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Kellyanne dad of the Year A Dallas dad jumped into action when his wife went into labor just two blocks from Methodist Dallas Medical center, right in their car. As they rushed her to the hospital, baby Kamala couldn't wait. Her head started the crown of the front seat. No time to spare. Dad delivered the daughter himself. Right there in the car. He is mom, baby and dad all doing well. Amazing.

[Jesse Waters]

Joey Jones thinks he can deliver a baby. Yeah. What did you say? It's just like this is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests.

[Brett Baer]

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