Red Alert For Dems In The Midwest

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Podcast Summary: "Red Alert For Dems In The Midwest" on The Five

Episode Information:

• Title: The Five
• Host/Author: FOX News Podcasts
• Episode: Red Alert For Dems In The Midwest
• Release Date: July 17, 2025
• Description: The Five delves into the hottest topics stirring public conversation, featuring diverse voices that dissect, debate, and sometimes debunk the most pressing news stories, controversies, and issues of the day.

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1. Introduction: Democrats Facing Midterm Challenges [01:04 - 02:38]

The episode opens with Sandra Smith addressing the current political landscape, highlighting a concerning trend for Democrats ahead of the midterm elections. Recent polling data reveals a stark downturn for Congressional Democrats:

• 19% of respondents approve of how Democrats in Congress are handling their duties.
• A significant 72% express disapproval.

Sandra Smith questions the party's strategy to remedy this decline, noting, “Only 19% approve of the way the Democrats in Congress are handling their job, while 72% disapprove.” The Democrats seem to be adopting a more confrontational and unfiltered approach, reminiscent of former President Trump’s style.

2. Democrats’ Shift Towards Trump-Style Rhetoric [02:38 - 05:35]

The panel discusses how Democrats are attempting to emulate Trump’s direct and aggressive communication tactics. Sandra Smith references a Washington Post headline stating, “Democrats try a new tone: Less scripted, more cursing. Trumpier insults.” This marks a departure from the traditionally polished Democratic media strategy.

Kellyanne Conway questions the feasibility of this approach:

"No. There's only one Trump, and he's proven that again and again." ([07:38])

Jason Crowe and Donna Tree express skepticism, arguing that the Democrats lack the authentic persona and media presence that Trump possesses. Donna Tree humorously compares the Democrats’ attempts to forced authenticity:

“You can't do a podcast with two dudes sitting next to each other on the same couch. I mean, this is production 101.” ([05:32])

3. Analyzing Approval Ratings and Election Prospects [05:35 - 10:13]

The conversation shifts to broader approval ratings and the potential impact on upcoming elections. Sandra Smith notes:

“We can improve. I would never deny that.” ([05:35])

Despite GOP holding a better position with 33% approval, they also face significant disapproval at 60%. Health care remains a critical issue, with Trump holding a 62% disapproval rating for his handling of the sector—a topic poised to dominate the midterms.

Sandra Smith emphasizes the GOP's challenges:

“64% of Americans say the GOP looks out for the interests of the rich, not the average American.” ([07:30])

4. Border Security and Alligator Alcatraz [14:53 - 22:33]

A significant portion of the discussion centers on border security, specifically the controversial “Alligator Alcatraz” detention centers. Jessica Tarlov raises concerns about the conditions and administrative practices:

“There are innocent people and sometimes even American citizens that are being picked up by ICE.” ([19:29])

Kellyanne Conway defends the facilities, portraying them as temporary deterrents rather than punitive measures:

“They are meant to be temporary until you can move people where they belong.” ([16:03])

Sandra Smith and Jason Crowe challenge the effectiveness and humanity of these centers, highlighting reports of inhumane conditions and due process issues.

5. Obama’s Efforts to Re-engage Men and Party Identity Crisis [23:11 - 28:39]

The panel critiques former President Obama’s attempts to address men’s issues, suggesting a misalignment with Democratic strategies. Jason Crowe quotes Obama acknowledging the party's oversight:

“We've rightly tried to invest in girls to make sure there's a level playing field, but we haven't been as willing to be intentional about investing in the boys.” ([23:27])

Kellyanne Conway argues that Obama’s approach exacerbates the Democrats’ identity crisis:

“It's a party that doesn't know what women are. It's a party that doesn't realize that many of us who have boys...”( [25:22])

Sandra Smith echoes the sentiment, pointing out the Democratic Party’s struggle to communicate a clear and consistent message to both men and women.

6. Comedy Segment: Shane Gillis at the ESPYs [31:27 - 34:45]

Transitioning to lighter content, the panel discusses comedian Shane Gillis hosting the ESPYs. The event showcased Gillis's unapologetic humor, targeting both political sides:

“He had great Trump jokes about January 6th and Epstein.” ([34:39])

Jessica Tarlov praises Gillis’s balanced approach:

“He was pretty funny. It's shocking that you missed that one.” ([34:16])

7. Relationship Dynamics: Jason Kelce’s Marriage [36:05 - 39:56]

The episode shifts focus to personal dynamics, featuring a segment on NFL star Jason Kelce and his marriage. The discussion revolves around the concept of "nagging" in relationships:

“Tell me to get my lazy up. And take the goddamn trash out.” ([36:37])

Kellyanne Conway expands on the topic, linking it to broader social issues:

“Women are initiating a lot of divorces now...they feel like they're just doing too many things.” ([37:26])

Jason Crowe humorously suggests an evolutionary perspective:

“Nagging has evolutionary roots...it was important for resource gathering.” ([38:23])

8. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts [40:55 - End]

In the concluding segment, the panel wraps up with light-hearted banter and reflections on the evening’s discussions. Jason Crowe shares a trivia fact about Napoleon’s height, dispelling common misconceptions:

“Napoleon was actually 5’6”, slightly taller than the average person of his era.” ([41:35])

The episode ends on a playful note, with Sandra Smith and Jessica Tarlov engaging in humorous exchanges, highlighting the show's blend of serious political discourse and comedic relief.

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Notable Quotes:

• Sandra Smith: “Only 19% approve of the way the Democrats in Congress are handling their job, while 72% disapprove.” ([02:12])

• Kellyanne Conway: “No. There's only one Trump, and he's proven that again and again.” ([07:38])

• Donna Tree: “You can't do a podcast with two dudes sitting next to each other on the same couch. I mean, this is production 101.” ([05:32])

• Jason Crowe: “I have no idea.” ([13:35])

• Jessica Tarlov: “That does not mean that it is acceptable to be running a facility that dozens of lawmakers... have reported is not 24 hours a day air conditioned.” ([19:14])

• Kellyanne Conway: “What is a man? Great. I am highly aware of what men and women are and how babies are made...” ([28:30])

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Conclusion:

In "Red Alert For Dems In The Midwest," The Five presents a critical analysis of the Democratic Party's declining approval ratings and their attempts to recalibrate their political strategies. Through incisive commentary and panelist debates, the episode explores themes of authenticity in political communication, border security controversies, and the party's struggle to resonate with key demographics ahead of the midterm elections. Balancing serious political discourse with moments of humor and personal anecdotes, the episode offers listeners a comprehensive overview of the current challenges facing Democrats in the American political landscape.

Transcript

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[Sandra Smith]

Hello everyone, I'm Sandra Smith along with Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It is five o' clock in New York City and this is the five red alert for Democrats heading into midterms. Congressional Dems are tanking again, smashed by some brutal new poll numbers. Only 19% approve of the way the Democrats in Congress are handling their job, while 72% disapprove. So how do they fix it? Apparently by acting more like President Trump. Check out this headline from the Washington Post. Democrats try a new tone. Less scripted, more cursing. Trumpier insults. It goes on to say, quote, party leaders are swearing more, using edgier insults, recording more direct to camera videos, embracing hours long podcast appearances and trying to project a raw authenticity that sends. Authenticity isn't a term usually associated with the Democrats social media strategy. Some lawmakers taking criticism for posting some interesting stuff.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Watch here. Even go get mad.

[Jason Crowe]

I'm young, black and rich.

[Kellyanne Conway]

All right.

[Donna Tree]

Hi, this is Donna Tree, Canada.

[Jason Crowe]

Train Takes. Welcome to Train Takes. I'm with Jason Crowe of Colorado. Dreams to go on a summer night in a folding chair.

[Sandra Smith]

But not all hope is lost. It looks like the left might have finally found their own liberal Joe Rogan, but it's Jamie Harrison, the former DNC chair. He now has a podcast where he's interviewing the likes of Hunter Biden and Kamala Harris's failed running mate Tim Walls.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Watch.

[Jason Crowe]

The band was playing, the cheerleaders were there, and the football team was in the back. Out of the blue, the vice president says, oh yeah, I was a band kid. I'm like, what? You gotta tell people you're bad when you're a band kid, you're band kid. What Donald Trump does so well is identify issues with people he doesn't do a damn thing to fix them. And then he exploits them and then he turns it into fear.

[Donna Tree]

Younger white men, younger Latino men, younger African American.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We have slipped there.

[Jason Crowe]

Obama's show.

[Sandra Smith]

So, Jesse, let's just say this is the strategy for Democrats to be more like Trump. Could they pull it off?

[Donna Tree]

You remember when you sometimes see a celebrity without their hair and makeup and they're not wearing the jewels and they don't have the high heels and you're like, my God, that's what they look like in real life. This is what the Democrats look like without all the mainstream media gloss. So they lost the gloss. They lost all of the great studio lighting, the makeup, the network television. No one even watches network television anymore. No one watches MSNBC and cnn. There's no podcast energy. And now they can't censor you on Twitter. So they're left all alone. And so they're doing direct to consumer. And people are looking at these people for the first time and they don't like them. They don't like their personalities. They don't know how they look. You can't do a podcast with two dudes sitting next to each other on the same couch. I mean, this is production 101. And so they're being told by a 23 year old what to do. You have an Indian guy dancing to hip hop. You have an 80 year old black guy playing the guitar about Jeffrey Epstein. It's corny. And so the rest of the country's like, I can't believe what I'm looking at. And then you have AOC and you have Crockett. And they're young and they're telegenic and at least they have a little bit of energy. And that's the new generation. And the reason they like this new guy, Zoolander, Zoran the Destroyer, whatever his name is. Madman, Marxist Mondami. It's because they say he's so authentic. Now what do they mean when they say he's authentic? It means is that he says he's a communist and he's not trying to hide being a communist. Every other Democrat walks around Capitol Hill hiding the fact that they're a communist. This guy comes out and says, yeah, I'm a communist. And they love that. I mean, it's dangerous, it's politically crazy. Some people call it brave. They think this guy is the coolest thing around because he actually admits he wants to abolish private property. So if they want to go with.

[Jason Crowe]

That, have at it.

[Sandra Smith]

Jessica. To Jesse's point, Some of these videos they're trying to put out, they're sort of cringe.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, you don't strike gold every time, but you try, try again. There is a DC Creative firm, Van Ness Strategies, that basically has said, if you don't want to get online, we don't want your business and you should retire. Frankly, you. You have to try. And some of them are good and some of them are bad, and that's just the way that it is. But it feels at this moment like the GOP is getting really, really cocky. Not Jesse's red wave cocky from a few years ago that turned into a r whimper, whatever it was, but, you know, just slinging arrows. We've got it all handled. We know exactly how to do this. We've got Trump. He's our magic weapon, and he's teaching everyone how to do this. Right. Well, one of the reasons that Trump won, a major reason, right, was the manosphere that Joe Rogan and Andrew Schultz loved him. Andrew Schultz, this week, I voted for none of this. Trump is doing the exact opposite of everything. I voted for. Joe Rogan. What's the deal with ice going around picking up nice people who've lived here for decades who've committed no crimes. Joe Rogan. Where are the Epstein files? I thought that they were important. Our approval rating is bad. 19%. Terrible. GOP at 33%. Not fantastic, but obviously better. We can improve. I would never deny that. But important things that will matter for this midterms, the big beautiful bill. 60% disapproval. 64% of Americans say the GOP looks out for the interests of the rich, not the average American. The rich. Trump has a 62% disapproval on handling health care, probably because he's never even put forward any sort of solution. It will likely be the number one or the number two issue going in, especially because they're going to take health care away from billions of people, focus on those kinds of things, make a better social media video, but the manosphere turning against them.

[Sandra Smith]

Kellyanne, it does seem like Democrats are trying to take a page out of the Trump playbook. Trump your insults, more cursing, less scripted. Can they. Can they pull this off?

[Kellyanne Conway]

No. There's only one Trump, and he's proven that again and again. Well, and that's why he's president again, because you get weak men like Joe Biden and weak people defending weak men like Hillary. Well, yes. Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, one in the same. Both lost to Trump with two female campaign managers. Not just the manosphere, it's everyone. The women the womenosphere is also pretty high on some of the stuff that's happening with migration, inflation, obviously what's happening with our culture. But look, President Trump doesn't try to go viral. He becomes viral based on his spontaneity. McDonald's, the garbage truck. He gets shot in the ear and he stands up and says, fight, fight, fight. Probably the most iconic, famous photograph of the century. And this moment, the Democrats seem, Sandra, so effete and elite. Now they're filled with people from ivory towers and news networks and Silicon Valley and Hollywood and Wall Street. And why is that important? It's important because if that's who's running your party, then when you come and you do stupid, hokey things. I actually thought that people didn't know the cameras were rolling when I saw a bunch of those ads and moments. The idea that they were doing that for the cameras is a whole new wake up call. Tim Walt said, kamala Harris put me on the ticket to, quote, code, talk to white men. Then white men favor Donald Trump by 20 points. And if you are insulting men, if you put a vice presidential nominee on there who actually puts tampons in boys bathrooms, and then you turn around and say, we're going to spend $20 million focus grouping men to figure out who they are and what they want. You don't get people by enraging them. You get them by engaging them. You don't get voters the way the Democrats are trying to, which is using polls to manipulate and formulate their opinions. You use polls the way Trump does, which is to respect and reflect their opinions and also joy on the job. Donald Trump made all of this fun again. People stand and wait in the bleeding heat, in the pouring rain for days just to get into his rallies to say, I was part of something and he sees me and I'm forgotten. No more. They're not going to beat him by trying to be like him. They're not going to beat him by being so obsessed with him. Sandra, I didn't hear one substantive argument or issue position in any of it. It's all just performative politics and people are tired of it.

[Sandra Smith]

You know, Greg, you effectively and efficiently use social media.

[Jason Crowe]

That is so true.

[Sandra Smith]

Do you think Democrats can use this to their advantage, this new freewheeling social media strategy?

[Jason Crowe]

No, I want to. I just want. When Jessica brings up polling, she never does the. Compared to what? That's what you do with numbers. You always have to compare it to something else. But you didn't because the Democrats are less popular than crabs. On a nude beach, they're at 19%. That is historical low. It's just. I mean, it is so bad that people. It's natural to be somewhat disappointed in what any politician is doing, but they hate you. And then you bring up the criticism from the BRO sphere, the Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan. Well, for the longest time, never Trumpers and Democrats have been calling the MAGA movement a cult. But now you're obsessing over the MAGA split over Epstein. What I thought. But I thought a cult remains in obedience to Trump. So what's going on now? Who was right? You know, what you're seeing is the Trump supporter is not in a cult. He just embraces the vision of Trump and they expect that vision from him all the time. And when they feel that he hasn't been up to standards, they are honest enough to say, hey, wait a second. We want more on Epstein. We think you should be doing X instead of Y now. Now, about the. This new kind of, like, BRO theater and all the cursing. It reminds me of a divorced dad getting an earring and hitting on his daughter's friends. If you weren't doing it before, it's even weirder that you're doing it now. The rule of thumb is if you're trying to be authentic, then you aren't authentic at all. Being authentic is not something you try. It's like deciding you're gonna learn French and the next week you're wearing a beret and you're on a bicycle holding a baguette. It just makes you look insane. And I have to. And the Democrats will never move, move on until they admit to themselves, put aside their ego and ask themselves, how did they get America so wrong? It's not about all of this window dressing. It's like, what did we do that was so wrong? Well, you didn't understand what an American is and what an American reacts to. The more you compel, the more they rebel. You thought protest was rebellion. It's not. When you employ protesters to compel others. Especially when the protests were so obviously inorganic, extreme, and well financed. That was the biggest error I think the Democrats made with Trans especially BLM Campus Unru. You were compelling people to obey and we had enough. You talk about having fun. What's the opposite of having fun? Totalitarian moralism. And that's what the Dems ended up becoming thanks to their wokeism.

[Sandra Smith]

Appreciate your thoughts.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Thank you very much.

[Jason Crowe]

I appreciate you appreciating my thoughts.

[Sandra Smith]

Thank you, Greg. Coming up, the Democrats might be going nuclear after they hear this Alligator Alcatraz could be coming to a town near you.

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[Jessica Tarlov]

We're looking at other locations as well. We've had several other states that are.

[Sandra Smith]

Actually using Alligator Alcatraz as a model.

[Jessica Tarlov]

For how they can partner with us. I'm having ongoing conversations with five other.

[Sandra Smith]

Governors about facilities that they may have.

[Jason Crowe]

But Trump's not giving up on the og. He sent AG Pam Bondi and Secretary Doug Burgum to do a home inspection on the original Alcatraz in San Francisco. As for the Dems, they're back to crying crocodile tears about locking up illegals.

[Jessica Tarlov]

This is not only stupid with stiff.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Competition, one of the stupidest initiative put forth by this administration.

[Jason Crowe]

It's an internment camp, a place full of people who look like me, Latinos, Haitian men subjugated to inhumane conditions under the guise of immigration enforcement. Whatever Kellyanne isn't the whole effectiveness of this is even if it didn't happen just the the idea is an incentive. So if you're in another country and you're thinking about, you know, illegally coming here, you look at this and go maybe not. I mean that's part of the reason why the numbers are down.

[Kellyanne Conway]

They are layering the disincentives. Greg if you hear for the second or third month in a row, there are 00 border crossings to the point where Trump said yesterday he didn't even believe the old number. He said, how is it zero, you're saying? Am I going to be the one who actually slips through? Probably not. Oh, and if I am, look what happens. I go there temporarily or they may be hearing something the Democrats won't tell you. 150,000 plus square feet, 24. 7 air conditioning, 24. 7 health facility, 24. 7 pharmacy, 3 hot squares. All the things the Democrats won't tell you. But this is meant to be temporary until you can move people where they belong, which is not in the interior of this country. I didn't hear the same people complaining when 300,000 minors, 300,000 children went missing under Biden, in addition to all the other numbers we know, like the 10 million who came here. And then if you parked yourself here in New York, you got free stuff, clothing with tags on it and cell phones and digital benefits and cash and seats in a New York City classroom and hotel rooms at the Roosevelt for weeks and months on end. They didn't complain when thousands were crammed under the bridge, which, by the way, now looks like a bridge again. So it is meant to be a deterrent more than punishment and is meant to be a holding place until we can put you where you belong. But I want the Democrats to stop lying and I want them to stop lying about something else. They were for all this stuff. Debbie Wasserman Schultz herself, who started all this nonsense about the toilet and the sink being in the same place, just like it is in all of my bathrooms. I don't know about yours.

[Jason Crowe]

I have them separate.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Do you have a door?

[Kellyanne Conway]

Once you have children? There really is no door, everybody.

[Jessica Tarlov]

This is true. But anyway, we finally agree.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Anyway, anyway, that's. I'm sorry, Jessica. That's silly. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, as head of the dnc, head of the Democratic Party, bragged to America that Barack Obama had the most Border Patrol people, had the most deportations. Now they're in the entire different direction. And it's because of their four years in office that people woke up in this country and elevated border security and illegal immigration to the number two issue in all seven swing states and nationwide last year, all of which President Trump won because of that.

[Jason Crowe]

So, Jessica, serious question. And I want you to think about it, contemplate it, because it is an. I'm earnestly curious about what I call incentive blindness. There's something about. I think Democrats who do not understand incentivize that if you, if you open the border and then you offer free stuff and then you offer one stop asylum shopping, you would get an illegal catastrophe. But there's some kind of incentive blindness to Democrats. Is that, can you change that for us.

[Jessica Tarlov]

For everybody? No, but I have never been incentive blind. And I didn't deny that there was a crisis. I also didn't deny that things got better in the last year. The Biden administration and there were rules on the books that he implemented that Trump has continued with that have led to these zero border crossings, which is a net positive for the country. And yes, if I was thinking about crossing illegally and I saw Alligator Alcatraz, I would run home as fast as humanly possible.

[Jason Crowe]

There you go.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That, that does not mean that it is acceptable to be running a facility that dozens of lawmakers, by the way, have reported is not 24 hours a day air conditioned, that has 34 people per cage, that has a mosquito problem.

[Jason Crowe]

Oh, not mosquitoes. That's just like my lake house.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The most important thing and the reason that this issue has swung against Donald Trump, the fact that the people who are in this facility haven't been convicted of anything. The Miami Herald. I don't know, the more you laugh, the crueler you seem or the more people know that you're cruel rule, by the way, it's not just that you seem that way.

[Donna Tree]

So if someone charged with rape and they're in Alligator Alcatraz, you're worried about mosquitoes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

A third of the people in there have been convicted of something. That leaves 2/3 that have not that have charges.

[Jason Crowe]

The Miami Herald for a judge, you.

[Donna Tree]

Keep asking about due process. Well, if a judge says this guy's got to go, they pick him up, they put him in Alligator Alcatraz and three weeks later he's on a flight home.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That there are innocent people and sometimes even American citizens that are being picked up by ice. There was a 25 year old veteran.

[Donna Tree]

One American in alligator Alcatraz.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Besides the warden, there was someone, Max Frost, the congressman from the Orlando area who reported that someone did yell, I am an American citizen.

[Jason Crowe]

Well, he was. Do you trust Max Frost?

[Jessica Tarlov]

More than I yelled it.

[Jason Crowe]

He heard somebody yell, okay, do you.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Trust Kristi Noem who loves to like stand in front of people and seek.

[Jason Crowe]

She does her job.

[Donna Tree]

I'm going to, I'm going to just take over for a second. I have a new thing we're going to do on the show, Jessica. It's called what is the Democrats idea? And every time we talk about this, I Will ask, what is the Democrat idea? Okay, so you're asking Donald Trump to be a travel agent. You want him to arrest bad hombres and then go to their homes with Lincoln Town Cars and then take them to the airport.

[Jessica Tarlov]

They can go.

[Donna Tree]

Where should they hold them, Jessica, you can't just take them to the airport.

[Kellyanne Conway]

For wherever they are.

[Jason Crowe]

You can't send them to Martha's Vineyard.

[Donna Tree]

Obviously, the last time that happened, you guys sent them to a military facility. Lickety spirit.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The American public is calling. This should not be.

[Donna Tree]

I'm talking to you.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You not.

[Donna Tree]

I'm talking to you. I'm not talking to the American public. I'm talking to you.

[Jessica Tarlov]

My question is, million of them are watching.

[Donna Tree]

What do you do when you arrest a bad hombre before he goes home? You can't drop him off at the Ramada Inn and have an honor.

[Jason Crowe]

I'm not paying for it. Yeah.

[Donna Tree]

Jessica, these are temporary facilities that have air conditioning. Miller, most of the country doesn't have air conditioning.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Not true.

[Donna Tree]

A lot of people don't.

[Kellyanne Conway]

A lot of people in the city.

[Donna Tree]

I grew up without air conditioning.

[Jason Crowe]

Yeah. And much like Fox and Friends, they have three hot squares. Hey, Sandra.

[Sandra Smith]

Selective outrage is all I hear because Kellyanne just talked about the bridge under the Biden administration with the thousands of Haitian migrants piled under that bridge in inhumane conditions. And where was the outrage by Democrats then? And where was the. Where was the polite treatment of them then? Jessica.

[Jason Crowe]

Yeah. In your face.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Why would you use our mistakes to justify more?

[Jason Crowe]

Because you. Because all you do is you never give it away.

[Sandra Smith]

There is no outrage then.

[Donna Tree]

You don't have any ideas, Jessica. You just deprived what Trump's doing to fix the problems.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You create this. Two thirds of the people that are locked up have not been convicted of anything. Let them out and let them go back to their insurance.

[Jason Crowe]

We have the data on their country. All right, we got to move on ahead. Barack Obama opens up about men.

[Donna Tree]

Do Pixon helps.

[Jason Crowe]

This is Jimmy Falla inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats dumb ideas. Just kidding. It's only a three hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the [e-mail].

[Kellyanne Conway]

Democrats told men they're the problem, then acted shocked when the fellas ghosted them at the ballot box. But now Barack Obama is trying to win them back. The former president went on his wife's podcast and he called out this mistake he thinks progressives have made.

[Jason Crowe]

We've made that mistake. Sometimes in terms of our rhetoric, where it's like we're constantly talking about, you know, what's wrong with the boys instead of what's right with them. We rightly have tried to invest in girls to make sure that there's a level playing field and then they're not barred from opportunities. But we haven't been as willing, I think, to be intentional about investing in the boys.

[Kellyanne Conway]

But the hope and change savior wasn't done there. Obama quickly pivoted to Democrats old ways of blaming men for being men.

[Jason Crowe]

While they get great skills in sports.

[Sandra Smith]

And they learn a whole lot of traits, teamwork, it isn't music.

[Jason Crowe]

Sports was scaffolding for me to pull myself into manner. But even as I was doing that, though, my mom was still dragging me to art museums, saying to our boys, you being interested in art, you being interested in theater, that's cool.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Sandra I find Barack Obama to be the most inauthentic narrator of what to do about boys and men. He was the best surrogate that Biden and Kamala had last time, and he was scolding and shaming and screaming at men, pull up your pants and vote for Kamala. Get out there and do it. It's a party that doesn't know what women are. It's a party that doesn't realize that many of us who have boys, you and me included, sons, sure, you want to put them in sports, but their answer was to put the boys in women's sports. That was their answer. They don't know what a woman is. And I think this starts early. I'm very curious to know what you think about this starting early, the feminization of our boys. Don't be a glad gladiator. Don't be a gentleman. Don't be so rough. Sit still. I mean, it starts there, not in politics.

[Sandra Smith]

I wouldn't have enough time. And you know, the 60 seconds Greg will give me here, just joking with you. I felt very uncomfortable listening to that conversation. I honestly did. I felt very uncomfortable. I had read the transcript and hadn't listened to it myself. And I think this is a big part of their identity crisis. They don't know who they are. They don't know what message they want to put out to boys and men. They don't know what message to put to girls and women. But listening to that. Sports is sports, music is music, art is art. They are all wonderful things. And raising a boy, you can see this the most in the education system, especially the public education system in this country. They teach to Girls. I mean, I truly believe that a lot of what we're doing now, you know, is. Is. Is we've adapted to, you know, progressing our girls more than our boys. And I think there's a lot of parents out there who hear me say that, who know exactly what I mean.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yep.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Jesse, you can speak as a. The brilliant anchor you are, or a father of a boy and three girls, or you can just talk about the Obamas. But I'm most curious. What do you think? What did they think was going to happen when they run around saying, if you don't vote for Kamala Harris, it's because you don't like women? You're not ready for a female candidate. And this whole thing about women's issues, which is a nonsense phrase. All issues are women's issues.

[Donna Tree]

So this is why he booked himself on his wife's podcast, which real men don't do, but he ships all these jobs to China and then wonders why men are looking around like, what are we supposed to do now? So they're angry. They voted Trump. And then the next thing you know, they say we're waging a war on women and that men are toxic and the patriarchy is holding everybody down. And so the men just leave the party and they vote Trump. And now Obama's like, okay, how do I save this thing? And he goes, okay, how do I win guys back? By telling them not to play sports and take their gay friend to the theater. Now, there's nothing wrong with having a gay friend. I have a gay friend, Greg. But the theater is horrible. And I went to the theater the other day. It was the last time I go to the theater. It's just not something young men want to hear. They don't want to hear go to the theater. They want to hear, let's play sports. Let's play more sports and more sports. And if you have a kid that doesn't want to play sports and he likes the theater, fine, okay? But most guys like sports. And for Barack Obama, who was all about the ncaa, he was playing golf with all guys. No women ever play golf with him. He was playing basketball with the Tar Heels. They let him in, played pickup with all his buddies, and now all of a sudden, he's like, I'm a theater kid. It's just he's a boring guy. And the same thing that's happening to the rest of the Democratic Party without all the lights, camera, action, and the teleprompter. You sit a guy down with his wife, and it's just A boring, nerdy conversation that no one can relate to.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Jessica, it was pretty boring. But what is your party going to do about winning men back? You're losing white men to Donald Trump by 20 points with a white guy as the VP. I don't think it's pilot programs and polls and $20 million in luxury hotel rooms. But what is it? It can't be this.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I think it's just being nice and supportive. Of whom? Of men. Of everybody. If a kid wants to do sports.

[Kellyanne Conway]

What is a man?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Great. I am highly aware of what men and women are and how babies are made and all the things, so I'm good on that. I don't need the lesson. Just be nice to people. Don't talk down to people. It's pretty simple. And we have great examples, especially some of these Democratic governors to look to who are hugely popular. Andy Beshear, 66% approval in ruby red. Kentucky. Josh Shapiro, 61% approval. Huge football fan. Westmore, 59% approval can be found at Raven's tailgates, for instance. Remember when you saw that, Jesse, and you were like, who is that guy? No, like, yeah, he liked him. Jesse Watters likes Westmore. So I think it is time to start focusing on the examples that we have of people who are winning elections and winning approval from these key demographics and just move forward that way.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Sounds like Jessica's moving on from Barack Obama.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Right?

[Kellyanne Conway]

I'm sure that seriously disappoints you.

[Jason Crowe]

Can we show a clip of that? Of the podcast? I thought it was pretty interesting. You show. Yeah. Check out that Big Mike.

[Donna Tree]

That is.

[Jason Crowe]

Yeah. Look, I've never been surprised by anything Barack Obama ever says. There are a lot of people like him where the opinions are assigned and you can hear them from somewhere else, but everybody has to pretend that it's contemporary. When he talks about, like, everybody should have a gay friend, he's acting like it's like 2001, you know, he's like, he just watched a movie where the neighbor is a lovable gay person, and now it's like, my God, he's operating in a false America where people are still having vapors about people of different race or sexuality. Jesus, man, we had one day for vets and a whole month for pride. I think we got the message. Corporate America is bending over backwards to score virtue points over rainbow people. So I think maybe it's time to pull back from the whole thing about identity, because that's the thing that is getting you. Men aren't sensitive. We're not going to get our feelings hurt. But we will leave if we sense that you don't want us around. And what happened is all of a sudden the party noticed we weren't around. What happened to you? Now you want us back? All right, first of all, you amplified all men as predators during the MeToo movement. You said you couldn't be trusted around us. We were toxic. And then you pulled this switcheroo and this is what really pissed us off, where you elevated X men as more righteous and deserving than actual women. So you went from condemning predators to protecting the very worst of them. How are you going to get us back after that? I have no idea.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Well, Barack Obama and I agree on this. He said he's glad he never raised his son. Up next, comedy is great again under President Trump. Comedian Shane Gillis pulls no punches at the ESPYs.

[Jason Crowe]

Yeah.

[Donna Tree]

The average dog only lived.

[Jason Crowe]

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[Donna Tree]

Comedian Shane Gillis hosting the ESPYs and he wasn't afraid of the woke mob with fearless jokes like these.

[Jason Crowe]

Listen, Joe Rogan actually wanted me to be here to host this award show so that I could capture Adam Silver because Joe thinks he's an alien. And Donald Trump wanted me, wanted me to be here to capture Juan Soto for the same reason. When Caitlin Clark retires from the wnba, she's going to work at a Waffle House so she can continue doing what.

[Donna Tree]

She loves most, fist fighting black women.

[Jason Crowe]

Every time o team comes and visits the White House, he's like, and you must be the guy who catches, look at these guys, big guys, black guys. And that's just when the New York Liberty visited.

[Donna Tree]

All right, Greg, that was ABC Network TV was pretty good.

[Jason Crowe]

It's a couple of points here. With events like these, you get two hits for the price of one. You get the very funny joke and then you get the audience squirming, which I enjoy. And it is a departure for espn. And they basically said, hey, you think we're woke, you know, and then they proceed to punish their so called audience with the most anti woke comedian. You're seeing quite a sea change here with him and Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, Tim Dillon, Kill Tony, Jim Brewer, Rob Schneider. Who?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Ricky Gervais.

[Jason Crowe]

Ricky Gervais. Comedians were always told that they can't punch down and now you find out that punching down was always a myth because groups with protected status aren't down, they're up.

[Donna Tree]

And even when you're punching the wnba, you're still punching down.

[Sandra Smith]

Definitely your wheelhouse. But I would. I think this was a sign comedy is back. You know, fear of offending perhaps is going away a little bit. Comedians have the freedom to make jokes that offend. I'm over the Bill Belichick jokes. I really can't stand them anymore. Ha ha. Age difference. I don't know. Bedtime stories. What was the joke? I thought it was fantastic. I think he was really funny.

[Kellyanne Conway]

I don't know.

[Donna Tree]

Did you watch Jessica?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I did. Well, I watched it on social media afterwards. I thought it was hilarious. SNL made an enormous mistake firing him, and they've had two of their highest rated episodes since. When Shane Gillis comes back to host. I thought it was really great. He went after both sides. He had great Trump jokes about January 6th and Epstein. And then obviously that was your takeaway.

[Donna Tree]

I missed that one.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Really?

[Donna Tree]

Was it good?

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's shocking that you missed that one.

[Jason Crowe]

I didn't see that.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, yeah.

[Donna Tree]

Was it good?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, it was funny. You want to tell it like he basically said what we're all thinking. Like we're just supposed to forget that the Epstein files ever happened and that the last time Trump organized something, it turned into January 6th or something like that.

[Donna Tree]

You really didn't do it justice, Justin.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It was funny.

[Donna Tree]

He does a great Trump impression.

[Kellyanne Conway]

He does. And President Trump loves comedy. Seen him watch it. It's just when people are rude and biting and overly political, it's not as funny. But I like people who are equal opportunity offenders. Comedy's supposed to be fun and funny. You're not supposed to pull punches. You're supposed to take risks. I do like the Belichick jokes. I mean, it's the last. He gets the last laugh. He goes to bed next to her every night. But look, I mean, he said they were talking about Shohan Ohtani and the bookie scandal. And they said, you know, bookie is what Belichick reads to his girlfriend every night. A very horny caterpillar, the little engine that could but needed pill. That's funny stuff.

[Donna Tree]

Yeah. See, she kind of nailed it. Jessica, you take some lessons. All right, up next, Jason Kelsey apparently doesn't wear the pants in his marriage. We will explain. I hear it all.

[Jason Crowe]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

NFL star Jason Kelce has a game plan for his marriage with his wife Kylie. Let her call the plays.

[Donna Tree]

What I respond to really well is nagging.

[Jason Crowe]

Please nag the out of me.

[Donna Tree]

Tell me to get my lazy up.

[Jason Crowe]

And take the goddamn trash out.

[Donna Tree]

It's not gonna get done unless you tell me to do it.

[Jason Crowe]

Like, I like coaching.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Jesse, give us some man perspective.

[Donna Tree]

I'm going to say it's a bit, and I'm going to say that because I like him. But, you know, when guys walk around, you see the trash, you take it out. If the wife has to nag you to do it, that means you're not invested in the family. But I don't agree with that. I think he is totally invested in the family, and he is a all pro center, and I kind of wish he was still playing for the bird.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, maybe I just nag so much that I'm a little defensive, but this just seems like kind of normal relationship stuff.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Like it's a thing. Define nag. And the two men at this table.

[Donna Tree]

I'll define it.

[Kellyanne Conway]

The two men at this table are not experts in wives at nag. I'm sticking up for you here. You have no insight into that. I mean, define nag. The only example he gave was taking out the trash.

[Jason Crowe]

And.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Come on. Yeah, and they've got, you know, they've got at least three, maybe four doors. I'm not sure if the. The latest baby was a girl or a boy, but he has at least three daughters that I know, so he knows he's outnumbered in that household. Look, the serious point here is that women are initiating a lot of divorces now, especially over the age of 40 or 50. And they will tell you they're not doing that for a younger man. They initiated the divorce. They're doing that in large part because they feel like they're just doing too many things. You know, they're taking. They're working full time. They're the heart of the family. They're preparing the meals. They're doing the shopping, the cooking. They're tracking the physician appointments, the play dates and everything. And so I don't know if it's nagging, except that men think if they nag, then they fight and then they get makeup sex. That's what I think word nag comes in.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Greg, do you think this all means that women shouldn't Be allowed to work.

[Jason Crowe]

Absolutely. You read my mind. No, there's actually a much bigger point here. Nagging has evolutionary roots. It was important for resource gathering. It was a repetitive request that made sure the male hunted, found food and defended against threats. That's why nagging existed, because then you're more likely to survive and then reproduce. It's all part of the evolution of the human species. This goes into what topic? Come on. Trans. Oh, all right. This is why trans.

[Jessica Tarlov]

One block without trans.

[Jason Crowe]

No, because this is, it's a. It is so important. This is why trans failed. Because when you see your roles as somehow transient, when they're not, you end up becoming a burden to the tribe. Our roles as male and female are very specific. And more important, they are dependent on each other. She may nag, he may hunt, but if she stops nagging, he won't hunt. They both die. The moment you allow people to self designate their own identities destroys that beautiful, beautiful coupling that has made us last for 300,000 years.

[Sandra Smith]

Sandra, I took one of. I want you to want to do the dishes. You know, the fact that he says he has to nag, he wants his wife to nag him. That's a chore to have to nag your husband to do the job. Just do it.

[Jason Crowe]

You didn't listen to one thing I said.

[Sandra Smith]

I mean, I'm saying what everybody at home is thinking.

[Kellyanne Conway]

And take that tank top off.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Tank top is you can't tell a.

[Donna Tree]

Guy to take off. I can tell that to women.

[Jason Crowe]

Living with crime.

[Sandra Smith]

You know that one friend who somehow knows everything about money?

[Jason Crowe]

Yeah.

[Sandra Smith]

Now imagine they live in your phone. Say hey to Experian, your big financial friend. It's the app that helps you check your FICO score, find ways to save, and basically feel like a financial genius.

[Jason Crowe]

And guess what?

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's totally free.

[Sandra Smith]

So go on, download the Experian app. Trust me, having a BFF like this is a total game changer. And before we get to one more thing, a big thank you to our generous viewers. Fox, along with all of you at home, have raised more than $7 million to help Texas communities. And you can still join the cause at the website on your screen. Okay, now to one more thing. Greg, to you first.

[Jason Crowe]

Thank you so much, Sandra. You did a great job today. I know a lot of people don't say that enough. Tonight we got a great show. Kennedy DeVito, Will Ron, Tom Shalhou. Perfect. Wonderful. All right, let's do this. Greg's. You go short people. You know, many people mistakenly think Napoleon was 5 foot 2. But did you know that he's actually his true height was 5:6, which is slightly taller than the average person in his particular era. He also had very tall personnel guards, which made him appear shorter and that he had a tall wife. But I just wanted to dispel the myth that Napoleon was short. In fact, he was quite tall.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So the Napoleon compact is ridiculous.

[Sandra Smith]

There you go.

[Jason Crowe]

Yeah.

[Donna Tree]

He has plenty of other complexes besides that one. We don't have all day, though. Tonight, Jesse Waters prompt Johnny invaded Washington. Here's a little clip.

[Jason Crowe]

Do you know anyone who gets more threats than me? These ICE agents aren't getting more threats than me. Jesse Waters probably gets a little more threats. Well, Jesse Waters not a real man.

[Kellyanne Conway]

Chinese spying.

[Sandra Smith]

Whoa, Jesse. Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right. Wimbledon winner, I guess we attack. Is serving up more than just aces. She's also introducing the Internet to her favorite dish, strawberry pasta. Seems disgusting, but it's a traditional Polish dish. That's exactly what it sound like. Maybe pasta, strawberry, sugar and yogurt. Or sour cream.

[Jason Crowe]

I like it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Spokesman for the US Embassy in Warsaw even tried strawberry pasta after losing a bet.

[Sandra Smith]

I'm not going to judge. It could be delicious. All right, now to this Seal is shredding off the coast of New Zealand. Take a look. A local photographer catching the seal, catching a wave after wave after wave. I should say, like a total pro. At first he thought it was a surfer until he realized it was just one very chill seal hanging 10. The video has since gone viral and honestly, he's got better form than half the locals. Cowabunga, Kellyanne.

[Kellyanne Conway]

A big happy birthday to Tom Baldoff. A veteran who just turned 100, Tom served in World War II and as a Navy lieutenant during the Korean War. He says the secret to a long life is a positive attitude. In keeping a diary, he celebrated the way we all do. Big kids, balloons, family, and even a congressional proclamation. Tom, thank you for your service. We wish you many more happy and healthy years ahead. 100 and counting.

[Sandra Smith]

Love that. Happy birthday, Tom. That does it for us.

[Jason Crowe]

It's will taint country. Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday through [e-mail] or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your prime podcasts.