Resistance Over Safety

Summary

The Five – “Resistance Over Safety”

Date: September 2, 2025
Podcast: FOX News Podcasts
Host: Dana Perino, with Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, and Tyrus

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Overview

This episode of The Five centers on contentious issues in American politics, primarily focusing on the escalating gun violence in Chicago and the political resistance to federal intervention. The panel debates the effectiveness of local leadership, the ethics and logistics of deploying the National Guard, the cultural shifts within the Democratic Party, the backlash against corporate DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) efforts, and scrutinizes evolving party dynamics amid generational change. The tone is energetic, opinionated, and laden with critique, satirical comments, and banter among panelists.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chicago Violence: Resistance to Federal Intervention

• Setting the Stage

  • After another deadly weekend (8 killed, 58 injured), Chicago’s Democratic leaders oppose President Trump's offer to deploy the National Guard.
  • Democratic officials, including Governor Pritzker, push back against what they label a “military occupation.”
    • Notable Quote:
      • “We do not want or need military occupation in our city.” – Jesse Watters, quoting Chicago leaders [01:28]

• Political Stakes and Rhetoric

  • Joe Scarborough unexpectedly urges cooperation with Trump for the city’s safety, sparking division within the Democratic camp.
  • Jesse Watters highlights the contradiction of deploying troops for the DNC but not for neighborhoods beset by violence, calling the decision “racist.”
    • Notable Quote:
      • “They had the guard there, but they won’t call the guard in for the South Side. That’s racist.” – Jesse Watters [03:08]
  • Discussion shifts to the complexities of Chicago’s makeup, noting logistical challenges and the city's status as a major drug distribution hub.

• Policing, Reforms, and Demoralization

  • Jessica Tarlov addresses police demoralization and the challenges posed by reform laws leading to a “revolving door” for offenders.
  • Suggests an omnipresence like the National Guard could deter crime but warns of legal hurdles—only possible under emergency clauses repeatedly denied by local leaders.
    • Notable Quote:
      • “Prophylactic policing, stopping stuff before it happens, is always better.” – Jessica Tarlov [06:01]

• Broader Critique

  • Tyrus claims political calculations have become more important than lives lost in black communities.
    • Notable Quote:
      • “Black lives don’t matter. That’s what we’re learning. Black lives don’t matter.” – Tyrus [09:34]
  • Dana Perino adds that similar interventions aren’t even discussed for red states with higher per-capita murder rates, underscoring partisan selectivity.

2. Democratic Party Drift & Identity Politics

• Rashida Tlaib’s Speech as a Flashpoint

  • The panel analyzes Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s defiant remarks concerning Gaza and American involvement, framing them as emblematic of progressive radicalism.
    • Memorable Segment:
      • “Look at this room’s, we ain’t going anywhere.” – Rashida Tlaib, quoted and discussed [14:09]

• Party Dynamics

  • Tyrus laments the “progressive socialists” seizing control, disconnecting from historical Democratic ideals.
    • Notable Quote:
      • “This is not the Democratic Party that I grew up around.” – Tyrus [15:46]
  • Jessica Tarlov and Paul Morrow discuss strategies that merge civil rights narratives with Palestinian advocacy, accelerating the party's leftward shift.
  • Predictions about the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) gaining further control and the risk of alienating traditional voters.
    • Notable Quote:
      • “It’s a DSA world right now for the Democrats. …No prisons, no police. It’s pure communism. It’s very dangerous.” – Paul Morrow [19:25]

• Mainstream Rebuttal

  • Dana Perino asserts Tlaib is not representative of mainstream Democrats, citing broader voter concerns such as rising living costs and healthcare under Trump policies.
    • Notable Quote:
      • “I know no real live Democrats who think that it sounded like the rowdy group in that room…” – Dana Perino [20:07]

3. Corporate Backlash: Decline of DEI & Wokeness

• Corporate Shifts

  • Companies such as Cracker Barrel are retreating from DEI and Pride initiatives in response to public backlash.
  • Van Jones (a liberal commentator) concedes that workplace activism has "gone way too far" [22:56].
    • Notable Quote:
      • “For some companies, the new message…check your politics and activism at the door.” – Jesse Watters [23:14]

• Panelist Opinions on DEI

  • Jessica Tarlov admits it became excessive but sees value in the original intent of diversity efforts.
    • “I enjoyed the moment for a while…We need to move on.” – Jessica Tarlov [23:29]
  • Tyrus calls for accountability for careers harmed by the overreactions of the “woke hurricane,” singling out Snoop Dogg’s controversy as media overreach [24:10].

• Parenting, Media, and Exposure

  • The group debates the appropriateness of depicting same-sex couples in children’s movies and questions the over-sexualization of content, but Dana Perino emphasizes representation and progress.
    • Notable Quotes:
      • “I think it is a good thing to have children who are being born today…be comfortable with that there are two men kissing or two women kissing.” – Dana Perino [29:20]

4. Generational Change & Power in Congress

• Jerry Nadler’s Retirement
  • Focus on aging Democratic Congress members stepping down, with Nadler’s retirement attributed to losing touch with the energized, younger base.
    • Notable Quote:
      • “Bottom line is this is where all of the energy is…our blue cities are becoming a nut job archipelago…” – Paul Morrow [34:00]
  • Lament over Congress as a “retirement community” and jokes about politicians’ reluctance to relinquish perks and power.
    • “You don’t have to even be awake at a hearing…the whole work office situation is like a retirement community.” – Jesse Watters [36:15]

5. Media & Social Virality: Polish CEO Apology

• US Open ‘Hat Theft’ Incident
  • Viral story about a Polish CEO snatching a hat from a child; the hosts criticize his apology and call for a ban from the US Open.
    • “Listen, when you’re a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail. That kid had possession of the hat. He forcibly grabs it. That is a robbery.” – Jessica Tarlov [39:08]

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Chicago is a hellhole right now.” – Jesse Watters [01:08]
• “Prophylactic policing…is always better. The best crime fighting strategy is to fight crime before it happens.” – Jessica Tarlov [06:00]
• “This is not the Democratic Party that I grew up around.” – Tyrus [15:46]
• “It’s a DSA world…No prisons, no police. It’s pure communism. It’s very dangerous.” – Paul Morrow [19:25]
• “I know no real live Democrats who think that it sounded like the rowdy group in that room…” – Dana Perino [20:07]
• “For some companies, the new message…check your politics and activism at the door.” – Jesse Watters [23:14]
• “You don’t have to even be awake at a hearing…the whole work office situation is like a retirement community.” – Jesse Watters [36:15]

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Key Timestamps for Segments

• [00:34] – Panel introduction / Setting up Chicago violence story
• [01:08] – Trump on Chicago, National Guard debate
• [03:08] – Comparisons to the DNC, accusations of racism in intervention policy
• [06:00] – Policing shortage, criminal justice reforms debate
• [09:34] – Tyrus on “Black lives don’t matter” and political priorities
• [14:09] – Rashida Tlaib’s speech and the panel’s reactions
• [19:25] – Democratic Socialist influence and warnings about the party's direction
• [22:56] – Corporate DEI backlash, Van Jones comments
• [29:20] – Discussion on representation and children’s media
• [34:00] – Generational changes, Nadler’s retirement, Congressional culture
• [39:08] – Viral US Open incident and corporate accountability

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Memorable Moments & Banter

• Panelists use humor and sarcasm to underscore criticisms—e.g., Jesse Watters’ analogy regarding homicide rates and skepticism towards DEI initiatives.
• Running joke about politicians’ “retirement community” lifestyle.
• Mocking of media overreactions, virtue signaling, and parenting struggles with modern content.

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Summary

The Five offers a pointed, spirited critique of Democratic leadership, resistance to federal aid amid violence, and the broader culture wars over party identity and “woke” activism. The discussion is candid—sometimes confrontational, often sarcastic—intertwined with personal anecdotes, historical context, and debate over the future direction of both parties and the nation. The hosts, though differing in degrees, largely agree that American politics is at a crossroads, with generational and ideological rifts shaping the current narrative.

Transcript

[Dana Perino]

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[Tyrus]

5.

[Paul Morrow]

Hello everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters and Tyrus. It's five o' clock in New York City. This is the five. So the Democrats are choosing resistance over safety after another deadly weekend of gun violence in Chicago. At least eight people shot and killed, 58 others were injured. Despite the carnage, Democratic leaders in Illinois say they do not want President Trump to send in the troops for a DC Style takeover. However, the president says he's ready to go in.

[Jesse Waters]

Chicago is a hellhole right now. On Chicago well, we're going in. I didn't say when we're going in. I would love to have Governor Pritzker call me. I'd gain respect for him and say we do have a problem and we'd love you to send in the troops.

[Paul Morrow]

But Chicago's leaders, they are defiant.

[Jesse Waters]

I'm aware that the President of the United States likes to go on television and beg me to call and ask him for troops. A reality game show with Donald Trump. Again, we do not want or need military occupation in our city.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We do not want or need militarized immigration enforcement in our city.

[Paul Morrow]

Even Trump's harshest critic, Joe Scarborough, urged Governor Pritzker to team up with Trump on deploying the National Guard to Chicago.

[Jesse Waters]

I actually think that J.B. pritzker should do something radical. I think he should pick up the phone, call the president, let's partner up. These are the most dangerous parts of my state. We would love to figure out how to have a partnership because right now just a hey, nothing to see here. Moving along. No problem here. Hey, Donald Trump, we don't need you. And you know the mayor talking about we're going to protect people's dignity in our city.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We'll protect their lives.

[Paul Morrow]

Jesse, I was thinking about how many years we've worked together and how many Mondays or the day after a holiday, we come back and this is a story and this one was a big one over the weekend. 58 injured and seven killed.

[Jesse Waters]

It has a lot of blood. The Democrats keep on saying, well, the homicides are down. They Keep saying, you know, they went from 900 killed to 600 killed a year. That's like when your girlfriend says, well, the last guy I was with, I cheated on him nine times. You. I've only cheated on you six times.

[Tyrus]

That's better.

[Jesse Waters]

It doesn't make you feel better? It's still a lot of dead bodies. Now, he called in the guard for the DNC over the summer. Remember, Dana? We were there. It was safe, it was secure. The. They had the guard there, but they won't call the guard in for the south side. That's racist. The south side is huge. It's very hard to handle. I think it's 234 square miles. It's bigger than Boston, San Francisco, and D.C. so it's kind of like a densely populated flat area with row homes. It's very, very hard to police. You would know better than anybody. And there's certain neighborhoods on the south side where it's more dangerous than there than in Iraq, so why not use the surge? It worked in Iraq, and it should work in Chicago. You put a lot of boots on the ground, and it frees up locals to do the dirty work and go in and get the trigger pullers. It's worked in D.C. it should be able to work here. It's the heroin highway, they call it, because all the drugs come from Mexico through the highways, right up to the hub in Chicago because it's a great distribution point. You get o', Hare, you get the lakes, you put them out on the boats. You got rail going everywhere. You got highways going different arteries throughout the country. And you distribute it. So the cartels give the drugs to the black gangs, they distribute it, and they're the ones killing each other. It's black victims. 90% of the victims of these homicides are black. So people are asking questions. Are Chicago politicians getting payoffs by cartels to look the other way on the south side? Because this. You can't explain the tolerance of death this way. Also, on the demand side, we have to stop doing so many drugs. Okay? I know cocaine is fun. People tell me in maybe college, in your 20s, after your 20s, it should stop. And you should never be doing heroin ever. Meth is ridiculous. You're up for 28 straight days, and you turn into a shrimp. Now, if we don't stop that, then we're going to still have this problem. So both sides, the traffickers and the buyers. And the buyers are a lot of white people. They have to stop buying it as well. And this guy that says, I Think it was, you know, blacks and the indigenous built Chicago. No, they didn't. They did not. The English established it. It was just an Indian fur trading village on the side of a lake. And immigrants from Europe, the Poles, the Czechs, the Germans, the Irish, Italians, they created Chicago. All right. So let's give credit where credit is due.

[Paul Morrow]

Thank you, Jesse.

[Tyrus]

You're welcome.

[Paul Morrow]

Paul Morrow, sir, so Jesse mentioned that you would know better than anyone. And I'm curious what you think the police officers think. And maybe they can't speak out because they work for the mayor and then the governor and those two elected individuals are speaking so loudly. But as a cop, are they demoralized?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Of course they're demoralized because they're way down in headcount and they are being asked to do more with less. They're going to take any help that they can get. But let's tease a couple of things out. Prophylactic policing, stopping stuff before it happens is always better. The best crime fighting strategy is to fight crime before it happens. And that's particularly true when the system is gamed against you because of the Safety act, which mirrors the criminal justice reforms that we have here in New York. And you have a revolving door. So, okay, you can get 10,000 more cops, 20,000 more cops. You put them in, they're going to make more arrests. Fair enough. But the same perps are going to come right out. That's why potentially, potentially putting out a more of an omnipresence of like the National Guard stopping stuff before it happens. Because when people see an armed guy there in fatigues, they're going to behave. The problem here and we just have to put my lawyer hat on. This is going to be a tough lift for Donald Trump to do. This is not DC the aperture. You know, if you notice, Pritzker and Johnson both keep saying the same thing, which is there's no emergency. There's no emergency because the emergency clauses, that's the aperture that Donald Trump has to put them out to federalize the National Garden. So they're already putting out what their legal argument is going to be. But undeniably, if you just look at people voting with their feet, you have Boeing, Caterpillar, Citadel, Tyson Foods, New York Stock Exchange, peak six investments, all of these firms have picked up and left Chicago. And then Brandon Johnson says financially, Chicago is hitting a point of no return. Well, of course, because the tax base is decamping for redder pastures. And in the public safety and the political arena, the inability not to tie the safety piece to that is the equivalent of not being able to add two and two. And so somebody has to do something here. Realistically, it should be Pritzker. I don't think they're going to do it.

[Paul Morrow]

So, Jessica, when a Democrat like Governor Pritzker loses Morning Joe, things might have gone a bit too far.

[Dana Perino]

Well, I was watching Mika's face the whole time, and she clearly was not in agreement with her husband about what the approach should be. And, you know, since Joe and Mika made the pilgrimage to Mar a Lago, they've been a little bit different than they were beforehand, but the country is different than it was during Trump 1.0. And obviously, he managed to get a lot of votes and support from people who weren't necessarily very big fans of his the first time around. So I'm not that surprised to hear that from Joe Scarborough. I think Paul is correct about the lift that this would take. We saw Judge Breyer's opinion today about what happened in Los Angeles, that Donald Trump had the right to deploy the guard, but they couldn't do anything that essentially they shouldn't be enforcing any laws. They can engage in security patrols, traffic control, crowd control or riot control. And fundamentally, that's because they hadn't proven that there was an emergency, which is why, as Paul said, they keep using California.

[Jessica Tarlov]

He's on firmer ground because it's related.

[Dana Perino]

He still got knocked down today.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And Brian's already been overturned once, so.

[Dana Perino]

So we'll see.

[Jesse Waters]

But I'm not on appeal.

[Dana Perino]

All right, sure. And you know, on a day when you get Eileen Cannon, you can talk about her.

[Jesse Waters]

No, I mean, the Supreme Court, what they'll rule in Trump's favor in the Supreme Court, but I'm not sure.

[Dana Perino]

Handpicked. No, you're not. You're just a historian.

[Jesse Waters]

Thank you.

[Dana Perino]

You're so welcome. So we'll see where it goes.

[Paul Morrow]

Okay.

[Dana Perino]

I think.

[Paul Morrow]

Oh, sorry, I thought you were.

[Dana Perino]

No, no, I am. I done. But we got tyres and maybe I'll come back.

[Paul Morrow]

Tyrus Pritzker says he's not going to call Trump.

[Tyrus]

No, because black lives don't matter. That's what it basically comes. That's what we're learning. Black lives don't matter. Listen, I get. And Jesse makes a great point where he's like, what is the end game? Who is benefiting? Why would you not want this help? You've lost your cities, your police department is depleted. You defunded it. You did a good job of defunding it. You also forced a lot of early Retirements. And you encouraged an entire generation. Loot first, ask questions later. The south is dangerous. You had what, 57 people caught shrapnel this weekend?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Seven died. Is your reelection that important? Like, sometimes leadership means you have to make tough decisions for the better overall. Good. It's not a Democrat thing, it's not a Republican thing. It's like as a man, as a black man, since they always love to tell you what color they are whenever they make a speech. And it's black men and young boys that are getting shot up and innocent victims and all these things are happening in your community and you care more about because it might come from President Trump. Here's the craziest thing. Clean up your streets, get the help, and then you can take credit for it or not take credit for it. Or maybe you won't be elected anymore. But maybe one day, Mr. Mayor, you'll be walking down somewhere and some kid will come up to you and say, when I was a kid, you changed my life. You saved my life. Because the soldiers coming in and the police coming in made my grandmother not afraid to go outside anymore. Sir, like some things are more important than politics. I don't care what Democrat or Republican puts that feather in their cap. But a city like Chicago should not be like Afghanistan, not in this country. It's shameful and it's embarrassing.

[Dana Perino]

I remembered what my point was and it was from your interview last week with Mike Johnson where you asked him about, well, why aren't we sending the National Guard into Louisiana, where he's from, or Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Republican controlled states that have higher murder rates, violent crime, etc. And that is the point here. Donald Trump doesn't talk about any of those issues in Republican states because he knows that he controls them because it's a big city.

[Tyrus]

No, also the senator, Louisiana said bring him in. Well, I think every city, I don't care if it's blue red. If you, if you have a weekend.

[Dana Perino]

That many people died to change his.

[Tyrus]

Everyone should come in. I'm not Mike Johnson, I'm Tyrus.

[Dana Perino]

I know.

[Tyrus]

I'm saying that I wouldn't give a damn about my political career.

[Dana Perino]

Power is Mike Johnson. And he's not saying to Donald Trump, we need that assistance.

[Paul Morrow]

Okay, well, obviously this story is not over or is this issue, but hopefully the people of Chicago can have some peace in the future. Up next, this Is not yout Grandfather's Democratic Party. Rashida Tlaib Curses out America look at this room's. We ain't going anywhere.

[Jesse Waters]

Now I don't give a flip flop.

[Jessica Tarlov]

If I ever say that bitch again.

[Tyrus]

Camping world is America's youth.

[Jessica Tarlov]

This is Jimmy Phela inviting you to join me for Fox Across America where we'll discuss, discuss every single one of the Democrats. Dumb ideas. Just kidding. It's only a three hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get.

[Jesse Waters]

The [e-mail] Democrats are leaking voters like a busted pipe. Over 2 million gone in four years while the Republicans scoop them up. Airbnb's co founder is one of those former Democrats and he just left the Dems a one star review. I sort of, you know, began to.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Look at other topics and eventually came to the point where I don't think.

[Jesse Waters]

I can support, you know, a political party that wants to have an open border that lets in, you know, criminals and dangerous people in their country. This is something I get behind. But can the left win him back with real policy and common sense? Not when the radicals ruled the roost. Here's Rashida Tlaib going nuts at a conference.

[Paul Morrow]

Listen, they thought they could kill us, rape us, imprison us, violently uproot us from our olive tree farms, starve our children to death and we would disappear. Well, guess what? Now we're in Congress and we're every corner of the United States. They will never truly comprehend Jama, even after seven decades, that we aren't going anywhere. We are just getting started. I want to say to all of them, every genocide, enabler, look at this room's, we ain't going anywhere.

[Jesse Waters]

Dana, what was she talking about? Please translate.

[Paul Morrow]

Well, okay, did you see up at the top in the, in the left hand side? We always tell you where that was taking place. That was not taking place outside the borders of the United States. It was taking place in Detroit. And aside from the misplaced cursing which does nothing to persuade, I don't think me you can hear in the voices of the crowd that they like the point about Gaza, right? And the Palestinians. That is going to be a rallying cry for the next year because we are on the precipice of Israel doing one of two things. They're either going to get the hostages back or they're going to go in and take over Gaza. Those are the two options that Bibi Netanyahu has said that are on the table. And there's that. Be aware. You know, Mamdani said that he doesn't want to say globalize the intifada anymore. It's exactly what they're doing. It's exactly what they're doing. And he can say to the business community in New York. That's where he said that there was a meeting where he was like, oh, hi, I'm going to be the mayor. And he's in front of the business community. And they're like, what about the anti. Semitism? It's like, oh, yeah, I won't say. Say that anymore. That doesn't mean he doesn't believe it anymore. And they are out there. They're trying to rally the troops on this issue. It's not about affordability. It's not about crime. It's not about making sure that you can have access to the American dream. There are things that the Democrats could press on right now if they wanted to, but they don't. This is their rallying. Cry and be aware, it might start in New York, but it is coming to a city near you.

[Jesse Waters]

Are you. Are you hearing what she's putting down, Tyrus?

[Tyrus]

Yeah, she's laying the smackdown.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And she's.

[Tyrus]

She's accurate. I don't. I'm just. I really want the real Democrats to please stand up. You've allowed the progressive socialists to take over your party. I don't know how they got in, but this is not the Democratic Party that I grew up around. I'm listening to. I didn't always have to agree. I mean, everyone starts out a Democrat, and then you get your first big paycheck, and then you become a Republican. That's how it works. But there was always a ground of understanding. I might not agree with everything, but we can at least have the discussion. And you would. But now it's. They're chanting like they're in war. She's telling stories of olive trees, and I don't know how many big olive trees are growing in Michigan this time of year, but apparently it's all this misinformation. It's the same cast of characters. And that's the problem. They have the microphone on the Democratic Party. I don't put too much solace in hearing, oh, they're losing all these voters and stuff. I think the Democrats would come running back if they had someone that was talking to them, the American people. And you have to be like, if you want to win in the democracy in the United States, America, you gotta, like, white people. You gotta have them. I don't know the numbers, Jesse, but I think there's like, well, you're 1%, but I'm still gonna put you in there. You guys make up, like, 80% of the country, so it's not 80% Tyrus.

[Jesse Waters]

I mean, those were the good old days. Just kidding. No, I think it's like what, 63%?

[Tyrus]

Yeah. You might want to stop trying to call them oppressors and say these things because eventually, here's the thing about white people, they have a thick skin. They let it go for so long, and now we're seeing the results of they've had enough. You went after Cracker Barrel, Bud Light, they drew a line. But you can call them oppressors, you can say all this stuff and blame them, and there'll be the white people apology tour. And that's where this group of so called Democrats got their footing. And it's gonna have to be the Democratic Party to clean it up.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah, Cracker Barrel was kind of like the Iwo Jima for white America squalking up.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So look, the constituency that Rashida represents did something very canny a couple decades ago, but it's been growing and they tweaked to the fact that if they made common cause with the oppressor narrative, that was the paradigm here in American civil rights, it would be a force multiplier for them. So they've done that. And that's how to Tyrus point. They've become such an energized and controlling portion of, of the Democratic Party right now, that is where the energy, the small donors. And I have written right here, Mamdani, which you went right to Dana. And that is of course part of this discussion. That is where this is all going. As you say, it's New York now coming to a city near you. Let's look at some of the stuff that was said at this conference. Okay. We have to destroy the idea of America. All right. We also were told that they were Hamas prisoners. Now, they weren't adjudicated by America, it was in Israel. But nonetheless, they were part of a prisoner exchange. They two of them were there. University professor was there who circulated information about Israelis smuggling organs. Okay. And if you look deep enough into this, by the way, you're going to use, you're going to see all the. I know some of the characters that are there. The funding is coming from all the usual suspects. All right? I don't even have to go into the names. We've all heard them a million times. The point is, this is where it's all going for them. And this is why in New York, with Mamdani coming to the front, he's going to win. All right? As you say, this is where the energy is. I think where this eventually goes. And you saw it in the beginning with Bernie Sanders having to be kicked out of the nomination. It's coming. And I think what you're going to see is 20, 28, 28 AOC. Because I don't think Newsom has the ear of these folks, whereas she does. It's a DSA world right now for the Democrats. I don't see anybody coming to get in the way of that. And anybody who doubts how dangerous they are, I would urge you go online and just look at the ds, the dsa, the Democratic Socialist America. Look at their manifesto. Look what they want to do. No prisons, no police. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that they're talking about. It's pure communism. It's very dangerous.

[Jesse Waters]

Jessica, if you are smuggling organs, I could use a new liver.

[Dana Perino]

Oh, really?

[Jesse Waters]

It was quite the week.

[Dana Perino]

Your 20s were wild, right? Acceptable to do cocaine?

[Jesse Waters]

No, that is just a rumor.

[Dana Perino]

Oh, it was literally not spread that rumor.

[Jesse Waters]

That is a piece of disinformation, Jessica, which we're used to coming from you.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, well, I think the only disinformation is that Rashida Tlaib is a leader of the Democratic Party. I know no real live Democrats who think that it sounded like the rowdy group in that room with her were enthused about what she was laying down, to use your jargon. But the reality is, is that no Republican that represents a swing district can hold a hall because everyone in their district is showing out to scream at them about cuts to government benefits. What Donald Trump is doing in militarizing DC Wanting to go around the country taking over the fact that they are arresting good, hardworking people at Home Depots and in churches and in immigration courts, and most of all, that the cost of living is too damn high. So you say, all right, well, what's the Democratic message? It's simple. And it's why they're up five to eight points on the generic ballot right now. Your life is more expensive under Donald Trump. He started trade wars that are completely unnecessary. That's jacking up the cost of living. He's coming for your health care. And the most important thing to him is to give tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. That's it. Plain and simple.

[Jesse Waters]

On tips.

[Dana Perino]

That's personal. People are, what, about $25,000 or less and it sunsets. That's the beauty of it, what they did. So they start the Medicaid cuts to come in after the midterms. And even Josh Hawley has admitted this, which is why he wanted a separate bill to make sure that these people wouldn't lose their health care, even though he said he wouldn't vote for it. And then he went ahead and did it. But no tax on tips. Sunsets. So that's to get you to the polls. Pokemon to the polls.

[Jesse Waters]

Do you work for tips?

[Paul Morrow]

Like, I'll consider it.

[Dana Perino]

I mean, I'm not a sexy way.

[Jesse Waters]

Not in the sex. I'm just wondering if you did work for tips, you'd like the bbb.

[Tyrus]

And there are on the screen, like, if the fans like something, we say, give Tyrus a buck. I'm a horse, dad.

[Dana Perino]

A lot of people do that.

[Jesse Waters]

Genius idea.

[Paul Morrow]

Genius.

[Jesse Waters]

I don't even remember what Jessica said about Medicaid genius.

[Tyrus]

Everyone has a little code like Jesse. We just lighten it up.

[Jesse Waters]

We're going to get the graphics department to work on that, but in the.

[Dana Perino]

Meantime, put Jesse's only fans up in the corner. What we not making again?

[Jesse Waters]

Another rumor merchant. Up next, Snoop, Cracker and Sydney. What do these names have to do with the end of Wokeness? Find out.

[Tyrus]

It's Will Tane Country.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday.

[Tyrus]

Through [e-mail] or on the Fox News YouTube channel.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And don't miss the show.

[Tyrus]

Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at Fox News Podcasts or wherever you download your favorite podcasts.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Once you go woke, you go broke. More and more companies are rethinking their DEI programs. Cracker Barrel is quietly scrubbing its DEI and Pride pages after backlash over its logo. And now even liberal commentator Van Jones is admitting workplace activism went way.

[Jesse Waters]

For some companies, the new message to employees is check your politics and your activism at the door when you come to work. CEOs are making one thing clear. The office is not the public square. And they're probably not wrong about that.

[Tyrus]

This is not going to make me.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Popular, but I'm not mad because it got ridiculous. I enjoyed the moment for a while.

[Tyrus]

Where we were having our reckonings about.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Everything we done wrecked.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay, we went from reckoning direct.

[Tyrus]

We need to move on.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Speaking of the woke mob, Snoop Dogg recently took heat over his response to his grandson's questions about a same sex couple in the Disney movie Light Year. And now the writer of that film is defending that scene. Iris, I gotta come to you. I know you know the man. Can you give us some insight?

[Tyrus]

Well, I only worked briefly on the Buzz Lightyear film. We had a. Oh, you're talking about Snoop. Oh, okay.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Sorry.

[Tyrus]

I was a consultant. It didn't work out. This. This drives me insane. He wasn't attacking woke. Like, at some point they need to just relax with it. But this is what the media does. Because all Snoop was was a grandfather who took his grandson to see a movie and he didn't screen the movie first. And the grandson asked questions and he knows grandson's going to go ask grandma the same questions, ergo, grandpa's going to get in trouble. And that's what this was all about. Had nothing to do with any groups, anything like that. But they cling to this because they'd gotten so much power before. They would get Snoop to bend the knee and apologize for being a grandfather who just wanted to watch a silly movie with his grandson and not discuss birds and the bees that day. That doesn't make you anti or homophobic. It just makes you a normal person who didn't want. Just like anything else. Like if I take my kids to a movie and all of a sudden a political argument starts arguing out in the movie thing, I'd be like, I didn't come here for this. You just want to see a movie. I think it's Van Jones talking about like, oh, we've had enough. You were running that shit pretty hard, brother. It needs to be more than a laughing in part, you people's lives were ruined, careers were destroyed. It's a little more than laughing it off. There needs to be some responsibility. Like, we. Not only did we get it wrong, we need to look at some of the people that we hurt and make those things right.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Dan Jones is now a moderate and avowed communist. So. So, Dana, let me ask you this. Was this just a failure of messaging? Because DEI really seems to be crumbling.

[Paul Morrow]

Well, the other thing. Well, I think one of the problems that the Democrats have is not only might they want to move on from it because they know they're losing politically.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Right.

[Paul Morrow]

Maybe in their hearts, they don't want to. But the other thing is, is that a lot of their funding structures, you've mentioned them before, they're all bought in on us. This is what they do. And so if you want to continue to get money for your group from these dark money organizations, you have to pay the piper. How do you do that? You continue to try to make hay. However you look at somebody like Van Jones, one thing, he's not running for office. There's another person who knows that it didn't work, and that was Gavin Newsom. And so he went on a podcast for 10 seconds and he said, I don't think that guys should be in girls sports. And then I was like, wait, did I actually say that? And he's not the only one. There have been other elected Democratic fathers who have said no, that doesn't make any sense. Why would we do that? And then they have to like walk it back. And they get that pressure from the same types of groups that not and the media that are pushing what Tyrus is saying they did to Snoop.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So I think the key is what you just said, father. Right? I mean, you know, you have kids is do you ever confront this? We have this awkward moment. You have to have this kind of an explanation in a kids movie.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, I told this story off camera. I wasn't planning on telling it now in the commercial break, but what was that movie? Fast Time is at Ridgemont High. I accidentally watched it with my 13 year old girls and there's like a statutory rape scene right off the bat. That was a tough one. But in terms of Woke, these CEOs are just straight white men in their 50s and the lawyers just tell them what to do. So when Sharpton and Jackson used to come around for shakedowns, they used to pay him off with board seats or money for Rainbow Push or whatever the stupid charity is called. And then all of a sudden there's this woke hurricane where all of a sudden at the same time you had dei, you had this anti Trump deal, you had me too. And. And all of it happened at the same time. So. And the trans stuff. So all these lawyers that work for these CEOs just say, yeah, just do all this. Give them whatever they want. And we're not talking lactation rooms. Like simple stuff. Yeah, give them a lactation room, that's fine. That actually makes sense to me. To me. Or you know, let them have enchiladas on Hispanic American Pride Month. Okay? Those are things that we can all get behind enchiladas. But it wasn't that they started occupying the offices of executives. They started waving Palestinian flags in the break room. There was a guy that worked for Elon Musk at Tesla and he started on the clock on the company dime a website against Elon Musk. And then Elon had him assassinated. But that's what you have to do. These HR directors have to be smarter. You can't hire hand grenades. Anybody with a nose ring, lawsuit. Anybody with purple hair, loss it. Anybody that likes Joy Reid, lawsuit. So instead of HR directors, we should doge them and just have detectives do the hiring. That's what we need.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And I'll take tips that's right.

[Jesse Waters]

No tax get up.

[Jessica Tarlov]

His QR code, it comes down, I think for a lot of Americans just to the idea of putting sexual, sexualized stuff in front of children. Am I wrong?

[Dana Perino]

I mean, to some degree. But listen, there was obviously a huge overcorrection after the Black Lives matter summer in 2020. You know, skyrocketing numbers of positions in DEI departments. I don't think that you have to completely throw the baby out with the bathwater and that there is a lot of good that can be done. But that is what we're witnessing at this particular moment. Cracker Barrel, though, I see no evidence that it was a DEI issue. I think it was just bad logo design that we've seen with a bunch of companies to the sexualization point. If that were a straight couple, like giving each other a kiss, I don't think anyone would have said anything about it. And the way that you get comfortable with people who are different from you is from seeing them in your lives. And there's that study with the Cheerios ad with the biracial parents. Right. So they showed this ad to adults and to kids and none of the kids noticed that it was a mixed race couple. All of the adults did notice that because it's something that we didn't grow up with necessarily. And it represented progress in advertising. I think it is a good thing to have children who are being born today. Like my kids won't notice that there's a black dad and a white mom in that ad versus when I was growing up that I would be like, oh, that's different than what I typically see. Or you, you know, can be comfortable with that there are two men kissing or two women kissing. I'm not saying you need to go deep into their bedroom and what's going on there. But I see what's so offensive about that. There are gay couples all around us and they have every right to kiss each other just as much as me and my husband do.

[Jesse Waters]

Lesbians or gays? Let's clarify both. Okay, that's what I wanted to hear. Okay.

[Tyrus]

I don't want to see a straight couple kissing in a car.

[Dana Perino]

You do, and it's a whole thing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

What about trans?

[Dana Perino]

But Sleeping Beauty? How do you save her? I mean, this is.

[Tyrus]

She was dead.

[Dana Perino]

To be fair, she wasn't.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, she was asleep.

[Jessica Tarlov]

See, the problem is trans is next and then whatever comes after that. There's always a continuum. There is. Come on. There's always.

[Tyrus]

Listen. No, because we had to go.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We got yelling at me up next. President Trump fires back at the crazy liberals who claimed he was.

[Jesse Waters]

You might take something.

[Dana Perino]

I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus.

[Jessica Tarlov]

On stories of hope and and people.

[Dana Perino]

Who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world.

[Tyrus]

Listen and follow now@fox newspodcast.com.

[Jesse Waters]

Last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful. They went very well. Like this is going very well. And then I didn't do any for two days. And they said there must be something wrong with him. Biden wouldn't do him for months.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You wouldn't see him.

[Jesse Waters]

And nobody ever said there was ever anything wrong with him. And we know he wasn't in the greatest shape.

[Tyrus]

Man, can a brother president just take a break every now and then. Wow. President Trump body slamming the loonies on the left who pushed a conspiracy theory that he died. But the only dead thing is the left's credibility after they covered up Joe Biden's decline. And boy, are they still paying the price for that. Case in point 178 year old New York Congressman Jerry Nadler won't run for reelection. And he cited sleepy Joe Nadler was in office 34 years and not a single year of them was on a treadmill. Is this really now they're going, Dana, oh, it's about Biden. I've been in the game too long. Or is the jig up and it's time to move on.

[Paul Morrow]

He, I think that he was going to lose his primary because of the Mamdani effect. We go back to the A block. This is where the energy is in the party. There was somebody who wanted to challenge him at 26 years old who knows how to use all the technology and everything. And the Upper west side, Upper east side and the older people there were not going to be able to save him, in my opinion. The other thing is he said he wanted to get out because he watched the Biden thing and he didn't want to do that. Okay. And if I were the interviewer, I would have said what part of the Biden thing do you mean? The part where he was too old. The political fallout when they got caught. The actual decline, sir. Like what? What do you mean the Biden thing?

[Tyrus]

You know what's crazy? To that point you just made, Dana, he is in a position where he could have done something about it. He saw it, could have asked a question, asked for a meeting. Paul, when you hear this retro, I got to get out. The game has changed. It's just, it's laughable. It's just I Feel like the old guard of the Democrats have kind of like realized that things have changed dramatically. It's over.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It does feel that way. Look, this race, Nadler is a matter of international importance. Why? Because I live in his district. All right? So I know what the guy has not done for 34 years, which is bupkis. Right. He's done nothing. His main job is just to make sure he stays in office. And Dana's exactly right. He smells the winds of change coming in. His election is going to be next year. Mandani will likely already be in, but he's going to get crushed. He has no charisma. He just barely won the last race and he was so unprepared. Turns out he didn't even have an office in the district yet to move his office. Right. He's a mess. Bottom line is this is where all of the energy is. As we said earlier, this is where it's all going. And it's funny to watch, but as you said, New York is leading the way here. And what we're not learning is the lessons of a place like Chicago. Yeah, because we're going to lose. New York is about money. Cities are about particular things. Right. Hollywood is about movies. New York is about money. It always has been. Wall Street's here, and that's always been our saving grace. That's been the crane that lifts New York out of the doldrums throughout history. Every 20, 30 years, when we go back down, well, this time it's not going to be there. Why? There is no Wall Street. You can run a hedge fund from the moon. I know. Somebody runs a hedge fund from the side of a mountain in Vermont. The only reason to be in New York City, period, end of story, is the lifestyle. That's it. If you want to be a young person here, bang around town going to the clubs and all that stuff, or you have money and you can insulate. That's why you're going to be here. Otherwise, you're not going to be here. And that's why New York City is getting drained. We're going to lose representatives and the House representative seats like Nadler's are going to disappoint. And as I said before on the show, our blue cities are becoming a nut job archipelago around this nation and we're quarantining all our kooks in the blue cities. Unfortunately, I live in one.

[Tyrus]

Jessica, do you like this direction? The old guard kind of saying we're moving on and the new guard coming on is that, are you Happy with that type of. When you hear things like that, something.

[Dana Perino]

Like, Nadler, father, time comes for all of us. And we saw what happened, you know, in the first few months of this. Democrats have lost, what, three representatives. Jerry Connolly, who had just gotten a big position and he was going to retire, but we'd gone through a process to have a new committee head. And then he unfortunately passes away. And Jerry Nadler joins three other representatives who are all 78 plus that have said that they're retiring. And I think that that's the right thing to do. I mean, why would you want to risk it? And why would you also want to not go out in as much glory as possible? And Liam ELKIND, who's the 26 year old that Dana mentioned, who was going to challenge him, grew up voting for Jerry Nadler. He loves Jerry Nadler. He thinks that he's accomplished a lot over the years, but he's saying at this particular moment, we need to have more fight in us. And part of that is accepting generational change. He's not necessarily very far to the left of Jerry Nadler. But it's a question of, do you have fresh ideas, can you do the job, or are you just kind of going through the motions?

[Tyrus]

Jesse, you're going to miss Nadler when he's gone.

[Jesse Waters]

I am. The man had an accident at a press conference and still didn't retire. I believe these people are addicted to the perks and the power. It's perfect. You don't have to do anything at work. You can drink, you can smoke, you can day trade. You don't have to even be awake at a hearing. And the older you get, the more seniority you get. Look at the whip position. Look at all the committee chairs. They want the gavel. There's something like a aphrodisiac. They want the gavel. They get hooked on the gavel. They like to hear it smack, smack. It's because they're all lawyers that never made it to be judges. So that's what's so intoxicating. And then their staff does all the work for them. And basically their whole work office situation is like a retirement community. You have a pool, you have a cafeteria, you have a barber shop. Everything's very insulated. And so they move you around in a little trolley underground so you don't have to walk anywhere. It's perfect. You don't even have to go to work until Monday at noon. And you leave on Thursday afternoon. And then you have the whole month of August off. You have these Two week recesses. Who calls it a recess? If I was a politician, they'd have to pull me out of there at 95.

[Tyrus]

Wow.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And by the way, he's a year younger than Donald Trump.

[Tyrus]

Up next, a big update on that jerk CEO.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, baby, baby, It's a wild world.

[Tyrus]

I'm being told.

[Jessica Tarlov]

This is. This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast.

[Jesse Waters]

Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests.

[Tyrus]

Listen and follow now@fox newspodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts.

[Dana Perino]

Welcome back. A Polish CEO has apologized after a video of him stealing a hat from a child at the US Open went viral. He says it was, quote, a serious mistake. Dana, it's a lot more than that. He says he thought that he was being gifted it for his sons, but.

[Paul Morrow]

I mean, he yanks it out of his hands. It's so obvious. And then that was confusing because there was a statement that was written by a PR company, and then he was like, I didn't really say that. I don't really know what he believes. I know what he did. And I think if I were the US Open, I'd ban him not to come back.

[Dana Perino]

Tyrus, what do you think? A ban?

[Tyrus]

Yeah, a ban. And the video is even worse because he can hear the kid, like, he snatched it. And he could hear that child crying going, hey, you took my hat. And he didn't care. His apology's whacked terrible. Because what you need to do is be like, hey, I got starstruck. I was wrong. I took it from the boy, and I apologize. The good news is the kid did get a hat, and he got to meet his tennis hero over the pit. But all of that was because you were a complete jerk.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yep.

[Dana Perino]

Totally not. Not a good move. And poor management in the aftermath.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Listen, when you're a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail. That kid had possession of the hat. He forcibly grabs it. That is a robbery. Roll that guy up. The good news is that Jesse knows how to pronounce his last name, actually.

[Dana Perino]

So we've been working this through.

[Jesse Waters]

It's pronounced scissor wreck. Is that wrong? I mean, come on. Cyrus is wearing pink flamingos on his blazer and saying ergo.

[Tyrus]

Okay, I never said ergo.

[Jesse Waters]

Yes, you did. You said ergo on the show. That's how I knew you were delusional.

[Tyrus]

You don't even remember you're wearing a pink tie with sailboats on it. Sir, these are my Johnny Joey Flamingos.

[Jesse Waters]

Expect that from me, not from you.

[Dana Perino]

You both look beautiful. And one more.

[Tyrus]

I've never been beautiful a day in my life. Ma', Am.

[Jesse Waters]

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[Paul Morrow]

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[Jesse Waters]

All right, well, they're not Polish, but the Spanish really know how to party. This is Tomatina festival. Look what they do. They just throw ripe tomatoes at each other. They love to throw tomatoes. This is the 80th anniversary. Johnny also happened to be at the beach over the weekend. Here's a Labor Day special.

[Jessica Tarlov]

What is Labor Day?

[Paul Morrow]

It's like something to do with the military.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We're celebrating the workers.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, okay.

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

Very educational.

[Paul Morrow]

All right, Paul.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Anyway, be sure to watch live coverage of CrimeCon this Friday through Sunday. Get exclusive access to all this session streaming live and on demand on foxnation.com I'm going to be out there. Tune in what it is.

[Tyrus]

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[Jesse Waters]

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[Tyrus]

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