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Kayleigh McEnany
Hello everyone. I'm Emily Campagno along with Kennedy, Jesse Waters, Kayleigh McEnany and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Shocking allegations on day 13 of the search for Nancy Guthrie. The sheriff's office denying accusations of withholding key evidence from the FBI. And we are getting new details on the man authorities are now calling the suspect. That could break this case wide open. Let's go to Alicia Acuna who is on the ground in Tucson. Alicia.
Kennedy
Hi, Emily. And we are right now getting word from Jonathan Hunt at the sheriff's department that the sheriff's mobile command center is on the move and the SWAT vehicle that is usually parked in a specific location is no longer there. A reminder, the last time this happened, authorities briefly detained someone in this case. Now take a look at this. Everyone has seen this photo by now. The man in Nancy Guthrie's door cam video is officially now a suspect and is described as being between 5 foot 9 and 5 foot 10 and of average build. You have to imagine that fits the description of a lot of males in the Tucson area. Agents identified his backpack as a black 25 liter Ozark Trail hiker pack and it sold at Walmart. FBI sources tell Fox News Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos withheld critical evidence from agents, including a glove found inside Nancy's home. Those sources say Nano sent evidence for testing at a private lab in Florida rather than the FBI's Quantico lab. The sheriff told Fox's Matt Finn there was no glove found in the home and defended his actions.
Jesse Waters
Why split your evidence to two different labs? That could create a conflict. But more importantly, it adds that additional step. This lab has this piece. This lab. Now they've got a. They've got to converge those two pieces to make an elimination or identification. No, just send it to one lab.
Greg Gutfeld
Let's go. They're both great labs.
Kennedy
TMZ says a Tucson homeowner shared this security camera video of what they call a would be intruder at their house. That's about six and a half miles away from Nancy's place. This was a week before she disappeared. The FBI tells tmz. Tmz, they are taking it as a serious lead. To be clear, the man is not being treated as a suspect at this time. On Thursday, the FBI sent an alert to folks who live within a two mile radius of Nancy's requesting door cam footage from January 1st and February 2nd. Emily, if it was, if anyone saw anything suspicious, to send it in. One other thing. The FBI has now doubled its reward in this case to $100,000. Emily?
Kayleigh McEnany
Alicia, thank you. We'll be keeping a close eye on this story. Now switching gears to this, the Democrats are bringing their TDS global. Several potential 2028 contenders playing pretend president at the Munich Security Conference with all eyes on AOC and your boy Gavin Newsom.
Jesse Waters
Donald Trump is temporary. He'll be gone in three years. Buck up. Wake up. I mean, I, I made some pretty aggressive comments in Davos. I think I handed out knee pads on stage. I'm under assault attack by this guy every single day. Here's the President, United States, he's 80 years old and he's calling me a nickname that an 8 year old called me, New scum.
Kennedy
They are looking to, to withdraw the United States from the entire world so that we can turn into an age of authoritarianism, of authoritarians that can carve out the world where Donald Trump can command the Western Hemisphere and Latin America as his personal sandbox.
Kayleigh McEnany
And while they were crowing overseas, President Trump was celebrating with troops in North Carolina with some really good economic numbers like inflation cooling in January to 2.4%. Watch this.
Jesse Waters
We just had fantastic reports on inflation way down, costs of products way down. We inherited a mess, total mess. And now it's really coming along. We have the greatest numbers that we've ever had. We're hitting all time high stock numbers. We're hitting all time high S and.
Greg Gutfeld
P and Dow numbers.
Jesse Waters
You saw that a few days ago.
Greg Gutfeld
At the end of the first year.
Jesse Waters
They said that it was going to.
Greg Gutfeld
Take maybe four years, the end of.
Jesse Waters
The term to hit 50,000 on the Dow.
Greg Gutfeld
We did it in one year.
Kayleigh McEnany
Pretty great numbers and certainly an exciting sort of pace. What do you make of the numbers that the President talked about and what does it mean for all of us?
Kennedy
Well, it means for consumers, that is great news. So one of the talking points, a lot of liberals and progressives have been trying to latch onto is that prices are still very high and that the Trump economy has been exacerbated by inflation. He has not solved inflation, but when you come down 2.4% in January, in a addition to having a really great jobs picture, that's bad news for people who are trying to hang economic doom and gloom on the president. So while he is shifting to focus on domestic policy, You've got the 2028 Democratic hopefuls who are now trying to pretend like they've got a lot of chops on foreign policy. Unfortunately for aoc, you know, she threw together a word salad and her little Tupperware that she packed in her roller bag for the flight that was so incomprehensible, it sounded like a seventh grader who had a book report and didn't remember until they walked into their third period English class and just tried to wing it. And she doesn't know what she's talking about. She didn't sound serious. And I think Gavin Newsom is taking stock on what she's doing. My former favorite rivalry in the Democrat Party was Newsom versus Harris. Now it's Newsom versus aoc, and I hope they politically destroy each other.
Kayleigh McEnany
So, Kaylee, I thought to a theme there where first of all, they seem to be intimating or downright positing that Donald Trump is going somewhere, that there's an end to that party and to MAGA and to his popularity, and also somehow that I think they have more sway at this moment than they do. Right. Gavin Newsom touting himself on the back for strong words in Davos. When we remember he said breaking news, he didn't get into a party. So what we saw was really unserious for a while, but now it looks like they're trying to play seriously.
Tyrus
Yeah, they're clearly both running for president, AOC included. Ronald Reagan in 1986 said he had discovered the scariest words in the English language. And they were, hi, I'm from the government. I'm here to help. I added the highest. That's 10 words. Well, I discovered the five scariest words in the English language. It's these AOC ventures into foreign policy. I looked up at our Chiron. That's the lower third there. As I was walking to my office and I saw AOC ventures into foreign policy. And I was frightened at the thought of this woman being commander in chief, equally frightened at the idea of Gavin Newsom being commander in chief. When you look, his remarks are apparently going to be about the economic need for climate action. He must have Missed. When Bill Gates came out and said that, you know, we're not an existential threat of the world ending because of climate change, he must have missed the Gallup poll this year that said climate change is a 3% issue. 3%. So play to the 3%. You need 51% to win a presidential election. But let me say this. Whether it's aoc, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, you name it. Amy Klobuchar, none of them have the fortitude, the strength, the bravery President Trump had, none of them would have bombed Fordo, none of them would have captured Maduro, none of them would have used tariffs and leveraged great deals for the United States. None of them would have had an armada encircling Iran and bringing Iran to its knees. None of them could do that. President Trump will be known as a great economic president. I agree with you. This is a year, it's going to be an economic boom. But he is going to be known as one of the greatest foreign policy presidents of our time. None of them have the, quote, cojones. I'll use it in Spanish, that President Trump have.
Kayleigh McEnany
So, Greg, now that, let's say, and if President Trump doesn't have a third term, the reality is that he's. They're not running against him, they're running against his legacy and against his successor. So what does that look like? Do all of a sudden, they get bigger real estate?
Greg Gutfeld
What is, what was Gavin's central message, by the way? He puts the ick in Munich. His central message was, wait him out. Trump is temporary. What is that message for America? He just told Europe that America first is bad because he's saying that's what's temporary. He goes, look, you know, three years, we'll be back to being the compliant giant, you know, showering you with taxpayer money, bending over, you know, supporting your stupid climate policies, and this will all be some kind of, like, bad dream. And I've used this lawyer question in the past. Do you want a lawyer that puts you first or a lawyer that puts his reputation and relationships with others first? And Gavin is that lawyer. He's telling the court that even though I represent this guy, which is, you know, America, he certainly won't make it that relationship difficult for everybody else. He goes, yeah, I tell them I'm doing, I'm working for them. But, you know, this case will be done in a few days. We'll go, we'll play golf. You know, well, I'll get you into the country club. AOC and Gavin, they look like lightweights on the international stage because they've been so preoccupied with climate trans DEI sanctuary cities that those muscles of atrophy, they don't know anything about the foreign policy. They're essentially doing the grunt work for our adversaries. If Trump were a majestic tree, Kaylee, they would root for the termites. AOC talked about authoritarianism, but she didn't mention China, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, which all have significant limits on human rights. She talked about the freest country on earth while she was in Germany, which can put you in jail for insulting people if you insult an individual. They could have imprisoned AOC for what she said about Trump. If Trump had been like a German citizen when she said, I think in 2024, that he echoed Hitler. Lastly, the climate policy stuff. They said they wanted direct action. There they got it. Trump revoked the endangerment finding, which is the largest deregulation in history, saving $1.3 trillion for consumers on buying. That's a big deal. That is direct action. And for that, I'll see my way out.
Kayleigh McEnany
And of course, but Barack, you know, tweets about how it's setting us back light years. Jesse, your thoughts on any of the other?
Jesse Waters
So I watched both speeches, and I was expecting Gavin to do really well, and AOC blew him out of the water. She started off shaky, but then she landed. Her main message was that if democracies don't deliver for the working class, the working classes are going to vote in strongmen, and the strong men are going to tear apart the world. They're going to carve it up. Trump has the West, Putin has Europe, Xi has the Pacific, and all is going to go to hell. So in order to stop that, we have to raise taxes on the wealthy. We just have to bust up the monopolies and redistribute the wealth. A lot of people aren't going to go for that, but at least that's a coherent message. Gavin came in and just gave the stump speech on climate that he's given for decades, and he said the exact opposite of what AOC said. He said what Greg says. You don't have to worry about anything. He'll be gone in three years. I'm the next president. We're going to go back to business as normal green New Deal globalism. Nothing's changed. And that's not the message. This world is changing fast, but Donald Trump, his agenda is starting to land. That's the backdrop of all of this. They're running that things are bad, but look at what we have on Inflation with incomes, the stock market rates are coming down. Crime, illegal immigration. If this starts to set in and drive in, we have three years of peace and prosperity, a strong and safe world. And that just sets J.D. vance up to capitalize big time and just run with this thing. And if that's what happens, JD's got it.
Kayleigh McEnany
Hashtag layup. All right, guys. Up next, Tim Walls broke his state by letting the Somali fraud scandal run wild. And now he wants taxpayers to fix it.
Tyrus
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Kennedy
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Tyrus
Democratic leaders seem to have a new motto lately. Quote, we break it, you pay for it. Now, outgoing Minnesota Governor Tim Walls is demanding American taxpayers bail out his state. Now this comes after he let fraud run wild and he egged on protesters to film ICE agents trying to arrest violent criminal migrants. Well, now he's proposing a $10 million relief package for businesses affected by the immigration enforcement.
Greg Gutfeld
We're going to be proposing a first time $10 million one time targeted loans, forgivable loans that we know and I.
Jesse Waters
Want to be very clear is a.
Greg Gutfeld
Very small piece of this. The federal government needs to pay for.
Jesse Waters
What they broke here.
Greg Gutfeld
There are going to be accountability on the things that happen, but one of the things is the incredible and immense.
Jesse Waters
Costs that were borne by the people of this state.
Greg Gutfeld
The federal government needs to be responsible. You don't get to break things and then just leave without doing something about it.
Tyrus
And Walz's partner in fraud, the Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, was grilled by Republicans over his reported ties to Somali fraud defendants, with Senator Josh Hawley even calling for jail time.
Emily Campagno
Whistleblowers came to you as early as 2019. Let's look as early as 2019. Whistleblower. Don't talk over me as early as 2019. It's my hearing, pal.
Jesse Waters
As early as 2019. Don't call me whistleblowers came to.
Emily Campagno
Well, I should call you prisoner because.
Jesse Waters
You ought to be in jail.
Emily Campagno
Well, we'll see what you can.
Tyrus
So, Jesse, it takes a serious amount of delusion to have fraud amounting to $9 billion. David Hope tells me it's way higher than that in your state and say taxpayers give me more money.
Jesse Waters
So they've lost I think 20 million a week. And this thing was going on for almost two and a half months. So a 10 million reparation check is not going to cut it. It's a gesture. Any other governor looking at Walls, looking around the country, no one's following this guy's lead. This guy tanked his economy. He tanked his reelection. Two people are dead. 100 ice watch people are now under federal investigation. And the media is not writing stories about how this guy Walls is surrounded in glory. They have moved on to Epstein and moved on to other things. No one is writing about how Walls was the man here. They are now writing stories, the mainstream media, about how Trump and Homan look reasonable and effective. This guy tried to lock horns with the federal government, lost big time, and is now under federal investigation. This is not the way to play it.
Tyrus
No, it's not. And Kennedy, when you look at this, this guy had to step aside in the governor's race, step aside. And now he's saying, give me more money. As if we just forgot about the fraud that was exposed just a month ago.
Kennedy
Well, the. It's very interesting because, you know, his verbiage, like, you can't just break something and leave. And it's like, bro, that's what you did with your entire gubernatorial process. Like, you wrecked everything. And you couldn't even run for a third term with that massive national profile because you have tanked your state. So instead of focusing on bringing businesses to Minnesota, they were bringing people from other parts of the world who, you know, some of them were engaging in fraud to the tune of up to $9 billion, maybe even more. And it' it's problematic for him because he knew about it and he punished the whistleblowers and let it fester. And the only good thing that's happened to Tim Walls has been the aggression with ICE agents and the violent protests in the streets, because that took all the COVID away from the fraud and the failure. And the worst thing that happened to him was Tim, Tom Homan coming in saying, you know, we're going to draw this down and only leave a few agents. And now we're communicating and Cooper with officials in different county jails throughout the state and things will be much better. That's horrible news for Tim Walz. It's very hard for him to stick his little cup out and busk for nickels from the federal government when now all the focus is going to be retrained on the ways that they fleeced the federal government and royally screwed people in Minnesota who frankly, deserve a lot better. They know that Jacob Fry's crocodile Tears, you know, Go fill up your own cup and drink yourself on some remote island, not in your dump state.
Tyrus
Emily, I want you to listen to this. So Tim Walls went a little further. He's worried about generational trauma. Listen to this.
Greg Gutfeld
Fact of the matter is they left us with deep damage. Generational trauma. They left us with economic ruin. In some cases. They left us with many unanswered questions. Where are our children?
Tyrus
They're sleeping safely. Because illegal immigrants are no longer roving the streets. Criminal records, right?
Kayleigh McEnany
I can't. Oh my gosh. His one man show is so stale and so off. He reminds me of those, you know, that like literally body of law where burglars and robbers will break into homes, injure themselves and then sue the homeowner. He had a massive tantrum in his state. He is totally disqualified and unqualified to continue leading it and yet still manages to put the onus on the federal government and blame everyone else. He reminds me of like a 13 year old girl having a tantrum after being disciplined. Where it's like, no daddy, but then asking for money because remember he refused to follow in force and rejected all of the federal government's laws that were trying to protect the citizens of his state, but then demanded more money from them right now after his fraud scandal. But you know what, he does this all the time. Because remember what happened in 2020 after he also led to the state burning down. He asked the government, you guys, for $15 million. Then thank goodness they said, no, this was your mess to clean up. Your $500 million mess to clean up because you abdicated your duty to keep your citizens safe and to keep those buildings protected. So this is just his M.O. he sees the federal government as a cash cow, but with no authority whatsoever. And he is the one facing a zero dearth of authority.
Greg Gutfeld
Greg, you know, I was listening. He reminds me of the skipper from Gilligan's island if you were gay.
Kennedy
Alan Hale.
Greg Gutfeld
Alan Hale junior. All right, yeah, because he was very bombastic and useless. But this is worse. I think what's infuriating about this is that he's still like out there. You know, it's like. And how kind of like casual he is when he says this garbage. It's like he's just realized nothing's gonna happen to him. Like, it's just like this is. This is what happens. It's like, you know, we're gonna talk about later on my show, but like Hollywood, you know, all Ellison has to do to him is saying, no, that's not true. It's like you yell at these people, they go, no, that's not true. So what happens next? I don't know what happens. And is it gall or stupidity that waltz is doing this? Does he know that he can get away with it? You know, he's called everybody Nazis. He refused to cooperate and that created the violent environment. And it's like what Emily said, he's like a drunk driver suing the pedestrian he ran over cuz he got a dent in the car. But, but he must have some secret knowledge that he can get away with this. And that is to me the most frustrating thing.
Kennedy
Maybe it's Kamala Nudes.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, you know, Kamala's the best thing Kamala ever did was prove to the world that that man exists. Because I would not believe he would exist unless I actually saw that it did. I've never seen any creature like that. You know, the real worry for Minnesota is again the civil suits over the injuries and death of people in these, you know, cop freez zones because they're going to get, they're going to get 10 figure settlements.
Tyrus
Yeah, it's amazing she had a face to face interview with him and still chose him for a running mate. Big blunder.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, breaking news alert.
Tyrus
We just got some breaking news in the search for Nancy Guthrie. The Pima county sheriff talking to Jonathan Hunt a little bit ago. Listen to this. The DNA found in the house was not Nancy's. Also said, quote, a lot is happening right now. Jonathan, what did you learn?
Emily Campagno
Well, good afternoon to you. I joined, just walked out of the sheriff's office just about five minutes ago after a sit down with Sheriff Chris Nornus. Now very interesting. The DNA they have sent for testing that was found in the house is not from Nancy Guthrie. The implication obviously is that neither is it from the family members that of course they will have checked their DNA already. Could it be from some other worker who was in that house? House at some point, yes. But very interesting that the sheriff was keen to make the point. DNA found in the house, not Nancy Guthrie's. Now what is DNA? DNA could be blood, it could be other bodily fluids, it could come from a hair, it could come from a fingernail. But that is being tested now at the lab that the sheriff's department has used for many years down in Florida. Another thing, you've heard all this talk over the last 24 hours or so of a glove. First of all, the FBI was saying a glove had been sent for testing that was found in the house. We believed. Then the sheriff said no no glove found in the house. So we weren't sure whether this glove even existed. Sheriff Nanos has now confirmed to FOX that a glove was found, is being tested. It was not found in the house, though. Here's the sheriff on that glove. Where was this glove found?
Jesse Waters
About two miles away.
Emily Campagno
And when was it found?
Jesse Waters
I think it was just a couple of days ago when this story broke.
Emily Campagno
Out that the sheriff's not look. So no glove was found in the house?
Jesse Waters
Absolutely not. Ever.
Emily Campagno
Or on the property? On the property. So one other very potentially significant development we want to bring you. While we were in talking to the sheriff, our cameraman, Brian Allman, eagle eyed as ever, spotted both the mobile command center and the bomb squad moving out of here. He also noted that a SWAT vehicle that is parked always at the back here is gone. The last time we saw any of those vehicles moving was when they detained that man down in Rio rico. So about 60 miles south of Tucson. He of course was cleared and released. But those vehicles moving again right now, that could obviously be potentially significant. Perhaps in the next few hours we will hear about them detaining somebody else. But very significant that all three of those vehicles moved at the same time. Back to you guys.
Tyrus
Jonathan, we're about to broaden this out, but a quick question about the DNA in the home. It would not be unusual for an individual to have DNA in their home so long as they were not a recluse. So do you get the impression that this is something beyond the usual finding of DNA in the home and it's significant?
Emily Campagno
Yes, because obviously they found a lot of DNA in that, in that home. They probably found the DNA of relatives, some other workers who they've seen been able to rule out the fact that the sheriff is talking about DNA found in Nancy Guthrie's home, not belonging to Nancy Guthrie still being tested right now seems to me very significant indeed.
Tyrus
Jonathan, it's Kennedy.
Kennedy
I have a question about the Pima County Sheriff's Department and the FBI working together because the Pima county sheriff has told us that it takes a lot of time for them to use their typical labs to get those DNA samples back and that that's why we saw such a lag over the first week, week and a half of this investigation. Why aren't they using the FBI resources which are clearly quicker and more comprehensive.
Emily Campagno
But the sheriff's argument here is simply that they have used a particular lab, lab for these kind of tests that is based in Florida for many, many years. He said. I think going back maybe 40 years we've used the same lab. So the initial samples from that first search of the crime scene on Sunday, February 1, were sent down to that Florida lab. So the sheriff's argument is that it is much simpler, much cleaner to keep sending all the samples to the same lab so that everything is being tested in one place. Now, the sheriff did add that if the FBI says to me, meaning himself, that they want to retest any material up at the national lab in Quantico, Virginia, then obviously he will give that to them. He also says, Kennedy, on the point of cooperation, he says there is no daylight between the FBI and local law enforcement here. They are working together. They want nothing more than to solve this case. And in the words of the sheriff, there are no egos here. Kennedy.
Kayleigh McEnany
Jonathan, it's Emily. Did he make any indication whether the next steps would be, for example, or has been in the process of profiling in CODIS or doing genealogical testing with a differentiation that this is not Nancy's, that is, do we have an answer as to whose or who it might be related to?
Emily Campagno
He did not. He did not specifically talk about that. I mean, obviously they are going through every level of testing that you can imagine. And the all I can talk about is an impression here. But the impression I get is that they have clearly ruled out a lot of people in terms of that DNA that was found in the house, those closest perhaps to Nancy Guthrie, and they still need to test more. So they're looking into it. They're going to go through, obviously every possible route of that. I'm not an expert on the way DNA testing is done in. The sheriff admitted he's not the expert on that as well. He is told things and those things are underway. But clearly they're leaving no stone unturned in their search here. It's frustrating for them as well. Emily, I talked to the sheriff. How exhausted are you? And he said, we are just not stopping. Nobody is showing any signs of exhaustion here because we are working 24 7. And again, he emphasized we meaning him and the FBI. There are, by the way, he gave me the figure. He said There are some 400 investigators on the ground here in total. That is local, state and federal. So they're going through everything. But when you think they got 18,000 calls into the sheriff's office alone, I think he said another 13,000 calls to the FBI. That's 31,000 tips. So even if you have 400 agents, it takes an awful lot of time to go through that. And then again, mountain more video evidence coming in over the last 24 hours because remember, they expanded the area that they wanted people to look at. Security cameras. They said 2 mile radius. Go all the way back on any of your cameras, you have ring, nest, blink, whatever to January 1st. So that is a mountain of evidence. And you're going to see all these videos of people at people at front doors and everything. They've got to chase down every one of those leads. I'll tell you this, there are hundreds, dozens certainly of homeless and itinerant people we drive past every single night as we change locations here in Tucson. A lot of them carrying backpacks. But anybody who's got any clip of any one of those all the way back to January 1st first, the FBI and the sheriff's deputies have to chase it down. It's an arduous task. But the sheriff said to me, we are confident that we will absolutely find out what happened to Nancy Guthrie and we will bring whoever did this to justice. He also said to put a button on this, he believes, he has to believe that Nancy Guthrie is still alive.
Jesse Waters
Jonathan, do you know when they found this DNA? Did they find it on day one? Did they find it today? Because the sheriff was hot dogging it like crazy the first couple days and then got muzzled by the FBI when they swooped in. Then they have this beef and a day after the beef, this guy's like shot out of a cannon making this huge announcement about new DNA. So what's going on here?
Emily Campagno
Given that, Jesse, given that the DNA was sent to the sheriff's desk, sheriff's lab that they like to use down in Florida, and given that, you remember they said they were clear with the crime scene on. I think it was either the Monday evening she disappeared on the Sunday, obviously, or perhaps it was a Tuesday. Remember, they said they were cleared with the crime scene. I think you can be fairly confident that that DNA was found in nanny Nancy Guthrie's home. In that initial search of the home, that initial going through the crime scene, which makes it obviously even more significant, initial search, they find DNA, they know it's not Nancy Guthrie's. Now the challenge is to find a match to that DNA and either detain that person or clear that person.
Tyrus
Jesse, Jonathan Hahn, thank you. Keep us updated. Well, we are going to take a break here at the five. I know Greg needs to take a bathroom break. So that will be all coming up. The media loves to pretend that President Trump is the big bad wolf for press freedom, but CNN's Kaitlan Collins just blew that house down.
Jesse Waters
Roses are red, violets are blue. CNN is biased against Trump. I didn't write that. As the network's disgraced former anchor Don Lemon pleading not guilty for storming a Church in St. Paul, CNN star anchor Caitlin Collins was gabbing on a podcast, swearing her liberal network's totally neutral and admitting that Caroline isn't that bad.
Kennedy
They always argue the media is biased.
Tyrus
Against them and doesn't cover them fairly, even though we cover them, I think fairly inaccurately. You never want to prove them right on that front that they are right, that you're biased against them, or that you have a personal, you know, angst here. When we were in Saudi Arabia and we were on a foreign trip with.
Kennedy
The president and he came in with.
Tyrus
All the other leaders, including the Saudi crown prince. And so they came up and they said, okay, well you can't come into the next event. And they went to Caroline and to her credit, she said, no, Caitlin's coming in with the rest of the U.S. press. And we went in.
Jesse Waters
The press loves to pretend that Trump hates reporters. But the New York Post reports how President Trump has neared 500 press interactions in his second term, blowing way past Sleepy Joe. Greg, you were just saying how Kaitlan Collins needs to smile more.
Greg Gutfeld
I did not say that.
Tyrus
I heard it.
Greg Gutfeld
We're way past the part of caring about what CNN or anyone in the mainstream media has to say about anything. Cuz there's no coming back from the Biden e. We were under no obligation to believe or even take them seriously. I keep trying to think, is there anything I would take seriously if it came from the mainstream media? The weather, sports scores, celebrity deaths. That's really small turf and it could be done by AI. So I can't envision what else you could trust them on. CNN to me is like a constantly cheating spouse who gas lit you every time they came home smelling like cheap perfume and their underwear on backwards. So I think, I imagine it even must be frustrating for them because even if they change their ways, everybody else is like, we're just gonna move on.
Jesse Waters
Haley, what if the networks did AI their anchors? They'd save a ton of money. I mean, they can never do that here because we have all this charisma. Yes, but they don't. I mean, they are very robotic. Is that a good idea?
Tyrus
I think it's a fantastic idea. I love it. Maybe they wouldn't be so delusional. I mean, I listened to Kaitlan Collins say that they're unbiased and I just laughed because I thought to myself when I called her an activist when I was press secretary. I stand by that. Two words, Jim Acosta. Right? You guys are so unbiased. Look at what Jim Acosta is doing. He's doing like left wing pep rallies now. We covered that last year. Not only that, I mean, the first term of President Trump, the first hundred days, CNN's coverage was 93% negative. 93%. And that was a Harvard study. So take that, Caitlin Collins. Also, I would note the 2020 convention, you guys chose to fact check the RNC. Where were you guys on the DNC back in 2020? Like, was Daniel Dale sleeping? What were you guys doing? Because I found all these RNC fact checks, they always hibernate. Finally, I would just say Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper. Do you remember when he called the RNC and DNC pipeline a white man when it very evidently was not a white man? So tell us you're unbiased, but how about you try to show us?
Jesse Waters
Well, to be fair, no one thought the pipe bomber was a black man. Usually it's not the blacks with the pipe bombs.
Greg Gutfeld
Blacks.
Jesse Waters
Kennedy.
Kennedy
Okay, Grandpa, it's true.
Jesse Waters
No one listen. Everybody was shocked. Kennedy, what do you think about the mainstream media?
Kennedy
The only thing that will prove her right, it's not gonna be this administration. Because obviously the coverage went right, like negative. Positive for Biden, negative for Trump. So you've got like two camel humps. It's going to be the next Democrat president. So if they really hold the next Democrats feet to the fire, then they can finally say, we are neutral, we treat everyone the same. But there is such a clear demarcation in the way they cover a Democrat president versus a Republican president. And even though they've got what every member of the press dreams of, that is unfettered access to a president who isn't managed, who may say something that is absolutely bananas and write your entire news cycle for you so you don't have to do any work. Even with that, the coverage, when it could be positive, is still incredibly negative. And I hope they. The one thing they take away from the Trump administration is skepticism and some evenly placed negativity for anyone who is either seeking or becoming president.
Jesse Waters
Wouldn't it be great if these news networks treated these politicians the same whether they were Republican or Democrat? Kind of like we do at Fox? Yes, it would be fair and balanced.
Kayleigh McEnany
Fair and balanced.
Kennedy
And unafraid, Jesse.
Kayleigh McEnany
Very unafraid, you guys. Okay, can we talk for a second about the Kaitlan Collins talking about Caroline Levitt and. No, we can't I'm going to. And it reminded me of. Remember when US magazine used to run that whole feature every week and they said, stars, they're just like us. And it would like show someone pumping gas and they would be like, so. And so was pumping gas. And it's like you would read that and you'd be like, yeah, obviously, like, they're human. And my point is, I feel like the story that she told, while in a good way, you know, giving, expressing gratitude, it was sort of like, obviously the left. My point is, thinks of Trump and his administration and anyone who supports him as so patently inhuman, unhuman, alien as to not even abide by basic things like conferring. Yeah, she's with us. She's press. Like, it was the most simple, basic exchange that was mind boggling to Kaitlan Collins, who had to then talk about it because it was so beyond their comprehension that, yes, actually rules and decorum and civility actually flourished in the Trump administration. So I feel like all that did was show how shocked that they are that actually everyone there has feelings and is normal.
Jesse Waters
You know where we don't pump our own gas. New Jersey.
Kennedy
That's true in New York.
Emily Campagno
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
The stars don't.
Kennedy
Jersey or Oregon. Yeah, the two states.
Jesse Waters
Is that right?
Kennedy
Yes.
Emily Campagno
Dang it.
Jesse Waters
That was a bad stay in the car. Listen to Fox on Sirius. Fan mail Friday. Up next, unafraid.
Greg Gutfeld
Fan mail Friday. First question. If you could have any exotic pet you wanted and keep it clean, Kaylee, what would you have?
Tyrus
I don't like pets, but maybe a mini Brit Hume.
Greg Gutfeld
I'd like to be your pet. You can put me on a little.
Kayleigh McEnany
I'll take that.
Greg Gutfeld
Kaylee, you can put me on a leash.
Tyrus
Oh, I will.
Greg Gutfeld
Walk me around the house. I'll be as buck naked as you like. Crawl up on the couch.
Tyrus
I won't do that. Oh, my God.
Greg Gutfeld
Crawl up on the couch. I'll obey your command.
Kayleigh McEnany
Look what you did, though.
Greg Gutfeld
Take me whenever you want about spanky Brits.
Jesse Waters
It's not harassment if you talk to him like Brit Hume.
Greg Gutfeld
You talk like Brit Hume, you can get away with anything.
Tyrus
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
You could have any exotic pet you wanted.
Jesse Waters
We're going piranha. I always wanted that exotic, expensive fish tank that those wealthy families had in the 80s.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Jesse Waters
And just lots of colorful piranhas. And then you threaten to throw things in there.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, like somebody that owes you money, right? Yes. I think it's a myth, though. They don't really just chow on people.
Jesse Waters
Yes, they do. Yeah, I'LL show you.
Greg Gutfeld
Greg. Kennedy, what about you?
Kennedy
I would want a jaguar, but you can't have exotic cats because that Carole Baskin.
Greg Gutfeld
What about you?
Kayleigh McEnany
Okay, so it would be a baby monkey and also maybe a baby white tiger. But here's my stipulation. I would have to have two. Because the thing that I hate the most and I feel so sorry for, is animals that are by themselves. Like, I hate when I find that.
Greg Gutfeld
When they grow up, they can devour each other. Cause you said baby.
Kayleigh McEnany
Yes, they stay at babies. Because this is a. Would you rather. So it's like fantasy.
Greg Gutfeld
No, no, no. There's nothing.
Kayleigh McEnany
I'll do what I want.
Greg Gutfeld
No, you won't. I was between a honey glider. Those little things that jump. Those are really hips. Or a gila monster. What's a Gila monster?
Kayleigh McEnany
Gila.
Greg Gutfeld
Gila monster. Giant lizards. Giant lizard. Kaylee. Oh, whoa. Here's our new one. What is the best way to break up with someone? That's the next one.
Tyrus
Yes.
Kayleigh McEnany
Immediately, clearly, decisively and firmly. In and out. You're done. No room for argument.
Greg Gutfeld
Goodbye, Kennedy.
Kennedy
Fake your own death.
Greg Gutfeld
We've all thought about it. We have all. Come on. You have. Jesse, we wish you would fake your own death.
Jesse Waters
Very nice. You sleep with their best friend and you have them walk in on them as you're doing it.
Greg Gutfeld
Wow. Wow. Wow.
Tyrus
So gross.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Tyrus
What's worse?
Kennedy
That or Brit you on a leash?
Tyrus
I think Brit you on a leash is worse. Look, I would say I haven't been on the scene in 10 years, but ghosting them, right? You just ghost them.
Jesse Waters
That's childish. Terrible. Yeah, that's for cowards.
Tyrus
And sleeping with their best friend, is it.
Jesse Waters
That's passive aggressive.
Tyrus
You get something out of it.
Greg Gutfeld
Look, you know what? I've had to break a lot of hearts, so I don't. So I usually do it in public, but now I do it in groups. Like, you know, when you're boarding a plane, I will dump the. Dump the ones who need extra time and who served in the military. And then I move from there. But I usually do the. Yes.
Kayleigh McEnany
Taylor Swift just texted. She said you still haven't broken up with her.
Tyrus
She's waiting for you to call her back.
Greg Gutfeld
This whole thing is a ruse for her to get back with me, and it won't work.
Tyrus
June 13th is her wedding.
Greg Gutfeld
She's a seven. She's four more things up next.
Jesse Waters
One day. One day.
Kayleigh McEnany
Carrier. Obviously. It's time now for one more thing.
Greg Gutfeld
We got a great show tonight. Kennedy, that David Angelo. Fantastic. Michelle To Foya, Tyrus. That's tonight. Also go to G gutfeld.com for my tour dates. A couple of weeks will be at Westbury, New York. Then Medford, Massachusetts. Duluth, Georgia, Huntsville, Alabama. That's@G gutfeld.com. hey, let's do this. This Greg's Arsonist Tortoise News. All right, I want you to roll this tape and take a close look at this suspect, if you may.
Emily Campagno
Oh, God.
Greg Gutfeld
That is Southern California. A tortoise leaving an enclosure, a shed. Some people. I'll do my. Jonathan. Greg, some of the people refer to this as a shed. And it is on fire. The shed is flaming. You can see in the bottom right corner there. Greg. The tortoise is escaping. The shed is on fire. That is a lawn over there. This is again, Southern California. Oh, hold on. I'm being told the tortoise's name is Leo, and it was caused by a heat lamp. The owner wasn't home, Greg, but neighbors came over and put out the fire. Again, that is a shed. Southern California. You know, I've covered a lot of shed fires, Jesse, and this one, John, it's gonna leave. It's gonna leave a mark on my life watching this shed in flames. And that Leo the Tortoise. Godspeed, Leo. Godspeed.
Kayleigh McEnany
All right, Jesse, you said you weren't talking to me anymore, but I'm talking to you. It's your turn.
Jesse Waters
Okay? I mean, like, everyone has to go for one more thing. And he's going on and on and.
Greg Gutfeld
On, just like our coverage on Greg.
Jesse Waters
All right, President's Day on Monday and stuff. It's already flying off the shelves at the Fox shop. You guys get a major discount. You guys want to hear 20% off? 20% off. Let's go, guys. Let's shop. You know the website tonight, Jesse Waters Prime Time. Johnny's talking about Valentine's Day. Watch.
Greg Gutfeld
If you were to spend Valentine's Day with a famous politician, who would it be?
Jesse Waters
What's a guy from Canada, Justin Trudeau.
Greg Gutfeld
He's really hot.
Jesse Waters
He is hot for some people. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Kayleigh McEnany
According to Katie. What's her name?
Tyrus
Perry.
Kayleigh McEnany
Yep, Perry. I don't know who's next because it's gone. So I was. Go ahead.
Tyrus
Because I want to promote my show. Tomorrow, Saturday in America, 10:00am Eastern Time. Tune in. We have John Fetterman. Also Scott Pressler. Will John Fetterman vote for the Save America Act? We'll ask him.
Greg Gutfeld
And also, what a contrast in hair.
Jesse Waters
You should put Pressler's hair on Best.
Tyrus
Hair Kennedy I will be at the.
Kennedy
Capital City Comedy club in Austin, Texas, March 6th and 7th. And here's a bunch of old people they got in a pickleball fight in Florida. Yep, those are two older people. 20 were involved and they got the smackdown.
Kayleigh McEnany
Emily okay, now here's a kid that got stuck in a claw machine, and I don't know if it was a bar, Chuck E. Cheese, whatever, but reminded me of this hilarious story that I got all on tape where someone I know and love got two stuffies with a claw. It was amazing.
Tyrus
Everyone cheered.
Kayleigh McEnany
It was Incredible.
Emily Campagno
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Greg Gutfeld
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Date: February 13, 2026
Podcast: The Five (FOX News Podcasts)
Episode Theme:
This episode centers on key ongoing news stories, with a major focus on developments in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance case in Tucson, Arizona. The panel also dives into U.S. domestic politics, controversies surrounding Democratic politicians, ongoing media bias debates, and more, delivering their characteristic mix of reporting, analysis, and banter.
Intensifying Search for Nancy Guthrie
Timestamps: [00:40]-[03:27], [21:49]-[31:21]
"FBI sources tell Fox News Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos withheld critical evidence… including a glove found inside Nancy’s home. The Sheriff told Fox 'there was no glove found in the home' and defended his actions."
— Kennedy [01:19]
“The man in Nancy Guthrie’s door cam video is officially now a suspect… Agents identified his backpack as a black 25 liter Ozark Trail hiker pack.”
— Kennedy [01:19]
“They have sent for testing that was found in the house… not from Nancy Guthrie. The implication obviously is that neither is it from the family members.”
— Emily Campagno relaying Sheriff's statements [22:09]
“We are just not stopping. Nobody is showing any signs of exhaustion here because we are working 24/7.”
— Emily Campagno, relaying Sheriff's comments [27:26]
Timestamps: [03:27]-[13:00], [06:50]-[09:01]
"AOC ventures into foreign policy... I was frightened at the thought of this woman being commander in chief, equally frightened at the idea of Gavin Newsom being commander in chief."
— Tyrus [07:15]
"If democracies don't deliver for the working class, the working classes are going to vote in strongmen, and the strong men are going to tear apart the world... In order to stop that, we have to raise taxes on the wealthy."
— Jesse Waters summarizing AOC’s speech [11:22]
Timestamps: [13:00]-[21:17]
"Democratic leaders seem to have a new motto lately. 'We break it, you pay for it.'"
— Tyrus [13:43]
AG Keith Ellison grilled for alleged ties to fraudsters; Republicans call for accountability and potential jail time.
Political Fallout & Critique
“He had a massive tantrum in his state. He is totally disqualified and unqualified to continue leading it and yet still manages to put the onus on the federal government and blame everyone else.”
— Kayleigh McEnany [18:46]
Timestamps: [31:21]-[37:53]
“CNN to me is like a constantly cheating spouse who gas lit you every time they came home smelling like cheap perfume and their underwear on backwards.”
— Greg Gutfeld [33:04]
“There is such a clear demarcation in the way they cover a Democrat president versus a Republican president.”
— Kennedy [35:25]
Timestamps: [38:26]-[41:41]
On Shifting the Trump Economy Narrative:
“When you come down 2.4% in January, in addition to having a really great jobs picture, that’s bad news for people trying to hang economic doom and gloom on the president.”
— Kennedy [05:28]
On Covering AOC and Newsom:
“My former favorite rivalry in the Democrat Party was Newsom versus Harris. Now it's Newsom versus AOC, and I hope they politically destroy each other.”
— Kennedy [06:50]
On Minnesota’s Fraud Scandal:
“Any other governor looking at Walz around the country, no one's following this guy's lead. This guy tanked his economy. He tanked his reelection. Two people are dead.”
— Jesse Waters [15:23]
This episode of "The Five" provides fresh updates on the Nancy Guthrie case, highlighting law enforcement struggles, investigative confusion, and public engagement. Simultaneously, the hosts analyze evolving Democratic dynamics, defend Trump’s record on economic and foreign policy fronts, dissect a massive state-level corruption scandal, and renew criticisms of mainstream media bias—all with their trademark mix of skepticism, humor, and spirited debate. The lighter final segment keeps the tone varied before the episode wraps.