Soon: Trump Delivers Economic Address In PA

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five

Episode: Soon: Trump Delivers Economic Address In PA
Date: December 10, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Five centers around the renewed political presence of former President Donald Trump as he prepares to deliver an economic address in Pennsylvania—signaling a return to the campaign trail reminiscent of 2024. The hosts discuss Trump’s economic agenda, looming midterm battles, and broader cultural and political issues. The episode features poignant discussions around Charlie Kirk’s legacy, rising candidates like Jasmine Crockett, and quirky trends from fashion to airport upgrades, with the unmistakable candid and sometimes humorous tone FOX News viewers have come to expect.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Trump’s Economic Address and 2026 Midterm Campaigning

(02:31 – 10:03)

• Dana Perino opens by framing Trump’s visit to Northeast Pennsylvania as both a pitch for his economic policies (lowering costs for everyday Americans) and an early campaign turbo-boost for the 2026 midterms.
• Erica Tarlov underscores Trump’s ongoing importance as a "difference maker" and a "turnout machine" for the GOP (02:50).
• The panel discusses Trump’s self-grading ("A plus. Plus plus plus plus" - Tyrus, 03:19), his claims that he's curbed inflation, improved oil and gas prices, and put more money in voters’ pockets (Jesse Watters highlights specifics, 04:57).
• Jessica Tarlov challenges these claims, noting the global economic context, ongoing layoffs, higher living costs, and dissatisfaction with Trump’s economic record:
  “He’s just setting our economy on fire and not in the good way. Like the dumpster fire way. The A plus plus plus plus grade, obviously that’s ridiculous.” (06:50)

Notable Segment:

• Jesse Watters proposes linking mass deportations with economic relief:
  “What I'd like to see him do is connect the mass deportations with the economy…lower rent prices because there's just not as many people to compete. So you also build and you deport, build houses, deport migrants, and then that's how you unlock the American dream.” (05:51)

Reflections on Charlie Kirk and Family, Leadership, and Faith

(12:28 – 22:24)

• The panel discusses the posthumously released book by Charlie Kirk, Stop in the Name of Why—Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life, now topping Amazon’s charts.
• Erica Tarlov (his wife) shares emotional insights into Kirk’s personal and family life, the importance of the Sabbath, and his unwavering faith.
  “I saw a side of my husband that the world never got to see…He was able to just reset, recalibrate, and say, you know what? The noise of this world can wait 24 hours.” (14:14)
• Discussion turns to leadership continuity at Turning Point USA, the impact of Charlie’s faith-driven example, and daily family routines without screens (15:15).
• Erica offers a moving explanation of how she managed to forgive her husband's alleged killer, modeling Christian grace:
  “If I had any ounce of hate in my heart, the Lord would not be able to use me…Faith is just a muscle. The more you use it, the stronger it gets.” (18:59)
• Panelists share how Kirk inspired renewed spirituality among them—Jesse, Jessica, Greg, and Harold now have a morning Bible study group (20:45).

Quote:

“Your life might be the only Bible someone reads. So be authentic with it.” —Erica Tarlov (19:59)

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Political Battles: Jasmine Crockett’s Senate Bid in Texas

(24:42 – 31:13)

• The hosts analyze Rep. Jasmine Crockett’s (D-TX) Senate run and her confrontational campaign style, with skepticism about her chances in deeply red Texas.
• Tyrus is especially critical:
  “Jasmine Crockett gets attention because she says dumb, outlandish things…She doesn’t represent the average Democratic person. She’s just playing a role.” (26:41)
• Jessica Tarlov notes demographic shifts and Democratic infighting due to gerrymandering and seat shuffling but agrees that Crockett’s messaging (“not needing Trump voters”) is strategically flawed and noninclusive (28:12).
• Erica Tarlov cleverly pivots Crockett’s slogan (“the JC way”) to “the Jesus Christ way,” connecting it to Turning Point Action’s 2026 campaign:
  “If you did it the Jesus Christ way, we wouldn’t have this issue. But turning point action...we will do it the Jesus Christ way.” (30:30)

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Airport Upgrades and Quirky Policy Proposals

(32:39 – 38:06)

• The group discusses a billion-dollar plan to upgrade U.S. airports, including workout equipment at terminals—a lighthearted debate ensues over the practicality and wisdom of “pull-up bars in airports.”
• Tyrus entertains with his deadpan critique:
  “I object. No, you don’t need a billion dollars…Open some damn windows, put some plants in there and play some classical music and everyone will behave. That doesn’t cost a billion dollars.” (33:42)
• Dana and the group share traveler pet peeves (speakerphone use, lack of quiet zones) and ideas to boost patriotism and family friendliness in airports.

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“Swag Gap” and Relationship Trends among Gen Z

(39:23 – 42:28)

• Tyrus introduces the Gen Z “swag gap”—couples supposedly splitting over mismatched fashion sensibilities. Dana and Jessica suggest it’s less about breakups and more about first impressions ("the ick").
• The hosts jokingly reveal personal and family fashion struggles, with supportive references to seeing beyond appearances in relationships.

Memorable Moment:

“My husband was not the best dresser. Him and I disagreed on fashion. I didn’t care if he wanted to wear shorts with compression stockings…” —Erica Tarlov (41:47)

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“One More Thing”: Lighthearted Closing Segments

(43:19 – end)

• Dana announces her forthcoming romantic comedy novel, Purple, thematically about love across the political divide (43:31).
• Jesse highlights Lake Michigan’s “icicle claws,” poking fun at doomsday climate headlines (44:15).
• Jessica shares the story of the “golden wave”—the world’s largest gathering of golden retrievers in Buenos Aires (44:46).
• Erica tells of “tactical elves” (firefighters) rappelling down a children’s hospital as a holiday treat (45:12).
• Tyrus plugs his comedy tour, matching his bold chair-side fashion (45:37).

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Notable Quotes

• On Trump's campaign presence:
  “No one is better on the stump than Donald Trump…No one can connect with the average guy and no one can raise money like he can.” —Jesse Watters (04:57)

• On leadership and faith:
  “Turning Point USA...is not a 9 to 5. It’s a mission driven organization and everyone that works there is working there because they understand the heart and soul and the DNA of Turning Point USA.” —Erica Tarlov (16:46)

• On Charlie Kirk’s inspiration:
  “Every day, he wanted to help people remember…are you gonna make this place better, or are you gonna make it worse? Are you gonna be a solution or are you gonna be an additional problem?” —Erica Tarlov (21:27)

• On forgiveness:
  “It’s not a weakness, it’s a form of a strength...Am I going to stand in the corner, be in fetal position and crying, or I’m going to stand on my two feet by the Lord’s strength?” —Erica Tarlov (19:59)

• On airport fitness:
  “The last thing you need at the gym is somebody working out. And RFK Jr…I don’t need to see his armpit sweat…and that’s gonna be sitting next to me on the airplane.” —Tyrus (33:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Trump’s Economic Agenda and Reception – 02:31–10:03
• Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and Sabbath Book – 12:28–22:24
• Forgiveness and Faith after Loss – 18:59–20:34
• Jasmine Crockett Senate Run Discussion – 24:42–31:13
• Airport Upgrade & Pull-Up Bar Debate – 32:39–38:06
• Gen Z “Swag Gap” and Dating – 39:23–42:28
• One More Thing/Novel Announcements/Holiday Acts – 43:19–46:02

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains a conversational, candid, and at times irreverently humorous style, typical for The Five. While the topics oscillate between serious current events, heartfelt personal stories, and playful banter, the hosts are direct, at times combative, and always keen to inject wit and personality into the conversation.

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For New Listeners

This episode provides political analysis, moving human stories, and culture war commentary—the full “Five” experience. Standout moments include the discussion of how family and faith intersect with public life, the honest confrontation of political strategy, and the open-hearted tribute to Charlie Kirk’s enduring influence. Whether you’re following politics or just looking for cultural pulse points, the segment structure and vibrant personalities make for both informative and engaging listening.

Transcript

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[Dana Perino]

Hello everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Erica Kirk, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters and Tyrus. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five.

The fight for the midterms is getting an early Trump turbo boost. The President is back in Northeast Pennsylvania tonight, pitching his economic agenda of lower costs and a cheaper life for everyday Americans. It's starting to look like he's ready to campaign, like it's 2024 all over again. Just like his cheapest staff, Susie Wiles hinted.

[Erica Tarlov]

I haven't quite broken it to him yet, but he's going to campaign like it's 2024 again for all these people that he helps. He doesn't help everybody, but for those he does, he's a difference maker and he certainly is a turnout machine. So the midterms will be very important to us. He'll Work very hard to keep the, keep the majority rates.

[Dana Perino]

And the president feeling pretty good about the economic job he's done. Giving himself high marks in an interview with Politico.

[Jessica Tarlov]

A plus.

[Tyrus]

A plus. Plus plus plus plus the word affordability. I inherited a mess.

[Jesse Watters]

I inherited a total mess. Prices were at an all time high.

[Tyrus]

When I came in.

[Jesse Watters]

Prices are coming down substantially.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So right now people are buying their holiday. President's presence. They're planning.

[Jesse Watters]

Look, don't be dramatic. No, no, don't be. Here's, here's what I want. Here's what I want. I know. And what I want to do is help them. So will I want to give go up. I'm giving them money.

[Dana Perino]

President Trump trying to get ahead of Democrats like Gavin Newsom and Josh Shapiro. Those are governors from Democratic states and they are ready to invoke Trump's name a lot in the midterms.

[Jesse Watters]

He's a man child. He called I'm going to see Governor Waltz tonight. He called him the R word. He called someone piggy. This is not normal. It can't be allowed to be normalized. And so we have to put that mirror up. We have to be more aggressive. We have to be more clear. And yeah, we have to be at times willing to offend. I mean, if he comes to Pennsylvania.

[Tyrus]

And views more BS like he did today at the White House, I think what you're ultimately going to find are people tuning him out.

[Dana Perino]

Well, it's a very special day for us on THE five. Erica, it's great to have you here. We will not make you go first today. We will start with Jesse Waters for his take on the president's move tonight.

[Jesse Watters]

Well, he's very popular. He's more popular now than Bush and Obama were at their parts of their term. And so he has to use his political and he has to use it in the midterms because if he loses the House and the Senate, it's cooked. So he has to keep the Senate, stave off the blue wave. I didn't say it. Jessica.

[Tyrus]

Don't worry about it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You did say it. I saw you say it.

[Jesse Watters]

And that's what he should be focused on. And no one is better on the stump than Donald Trump. No one can connect with the average guy and no one can raise money like he can. So he should just get out there and barnstorm the country, get out of the White House, get out of Washington and reconnect with the forgotten men and women of this country and he'll do just fine. There are bright spots I mean, you have right now gas prices below $3 hasn't been this low for three years. Oil, when he came in, per barrel, 78 bucks. It's 58 bucks. So people now have more money. I think just in one year, we have a thousand more dollars in our pockets. Under Joe Biden, you lost 6,000 Black Friday, record sales. Jessica even bought flat screens at Best Buy. She was just running out of the.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I carried them myself record stock market.

[Jesse Watters]

Right now, the stubborn factor is rates. So once he gets these rates to come down, it unlocks the housing market and that unlocks the American dream. What I'd like to see him do is connect the mass deportations with the economy because the more migrants you get out of the country, the more that sends insurance down, auto and health. And it also lowers rent prices because there's just not as many people to compete for these apartments and houses. So you also build and you deport, build houses, deport migrants, and then that's how you unlock the American dream. And I think he's off to a hot start.

[Dana Perino]

Jessica, One of the things that President Trump will do, no doubt, is to remind people that the economy that he inherited from Biden was the one that ramped up inflation. So because the media will always pick up on Democratic attacks like Shapiro Newsom, etc. Then President Trump, I think getting out there will at least try to prevent any ground being gained by Democrats there.

[Jessica Tarlov]

He's going to try to. But the argument that the guy who's been out for a year, that it's all his fault, when you've implemented a totally new economic agenda and that it's a failure in basically every corner of it, is not really resonating with people. When Joe Biden's inflation number was over 9%, the entire world's inflation number was up. Donald Trump doesn't have the same issues that Joe Biden did. He doesn't have a supply chain problem. He doesn't have a global health pandemic that was killing millions of people all over the world. He's just setting our economy on fire and not in the good way. And like the dumpster fire way, the A plus plus plus plus grade, obviously that's ridiculous. But there are some key indicators that Donald Trump and his administration knows that this is going really badly. First, Suzy Wiles having to go out there and say he's going to get back on the, back on the campaign trail, that'll really animate the right. Well, guess what, it'll animate the left as well. We aren't getting the jobs numbers anymore, the GDP numbers or the inflation numbers. And we know that Donald Trump, if a number is even remotely good or he can lie about it, he tells you what it is. Layoffs on track for great recession levels. ABC says 70% are spending more on their groceries, 60% more on utilities. Reuters. Manufacturing has been contracting for nine months straight. And this farmer bailout $12 billion of his tariff pot, which he didn't need to put the tariffs in in the first place. And the farmers are speaking out about this. This is Donald Trump's problem. He's the one who caused this. The head of the National Black Farmers Association. Agriculture in this country has been in complete turbulence and turmoil since the president got elected. This is a man made crisis.

[Dana Perino]

Let me just point this out here. So on your screen, you can see President Trump is departing Marine One and he is making that walk over to Air Force One as he goes up to Northeast Pennsylvania. Interesting about that, Erica, is that the Republican freshman there in the district is PA7. His name is Ryan McKenzie. He won by 4,000 votes. He knocked off a Democratic incumbent. He's going to the event tonight. And one of the things I think that says is that even Democrats in a swing district, I'm sorry, Republicans, and kind of a swing district like that know that would be better for them if President Trump is in their corner rather than having him stay home.

[Erica Tarlov]

I'll take more of a personal approach here. So I'm a very optimistic person. And Jesse, you and I are very similar from that standpoint. So two wins that I've always seen, that Charlie as well was no tax on tips, no tax on overtime. But I have to tell you something. Once, when Donald Trump secured peace in the Middle east, the next day he flew back to D.C. to deliver my husband's Medal of Freedom to me. He didn't have to do that. So a lot of people, I understand there's a lot of policy and everything involved. But also I am very proud to have Donald Trump as our president. I really am. He's a good man. And Charlie helped deliver the youth vote. And I'll never forget the night, election night, when he just, my husband, everyone was overwhelmed with emotion. And I just have to say President Trump called me multiple times. He still does. He's a very, he's a, he's a good man. He's a good man.

[Dana Perino]

So, and he's going to be out there campaigning. And Susan Wild says that he doesn't know it yet, but his campaign schedule is going to get filled. But I think he likes it.

[Tyrus]

I hate this. I absolutely hate that the President has to leave the White House to go campaign for these Republicans. Republicans, step up. Why does daddy have to come save you? This is the problem. Trump comes in the arena sold out. Everyone's going crazy. Trump leaves four people and two of them are the Republicans. Family members. Republicans. You have to step up. You have to. You should be. You should want the endorsement, but you should be the one knocking on doors. You should be the one maybe won't be a gold escalator like escalator like the president went down, but go down yours. Get out there, get on social media, go to the White House. He has important things to do that he's doing. He's changing the world for a better place. And now he's got to go fly out and bail out all these Republicans. You have to start stepping up and doing your part. The President should not have to do this.

[Dana Perino]

It's interesting.

[Tyrus]

What are you going to do when he's gone?

[Dana Perino]

It does happen, JD Stretch. The easiest thing to do is ask.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, get in there. You wish, Jessica.

[Dana Perino]

I wish.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I do. I hope and pray.

[Tyrus]

Listen, the success in the Republican Party is as clear as Dana's little shoe box thing that makes her taller on tv.

[Dana Perino]

It's not taller. It's that my feet don't reach the floor. My legs don't reach. My feet don't. Anyway, I have to have a box so that I can touch that.

[Tyrus]

Oh, it's fine. It's cool.

[Dana Perino]

Very nice.

[Erica Tarlov]

It's cool.

[Dana Perino]

Thanks, Tyrus. Next time, let me know how the leg day goes, right?

[Tyrus]

Phenomenal.

[Dana Perino]

All right, up next, Erica is going to share some powerful insight from Charlie Kirk's final book.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Erica Tarlov]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

Perhaps not the right music. Anyway, welcome back. Charlie Kirk's final book is out today. It's called Stop in the name of why honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. It's currently number one on Amazon. He wrote it just one month before his assassination. Charlie had been urging people to disconnect from technology and reconnect with what matters. Watch this.

[Jesse Watters]

Turn your phone off for one day.

[Tyrus]

No contact, no social media, no work, no.

[Jesse Watters]

Your mental health will improve dramatically.

[Tyrus]

That is a day to go be with God.

[Jesse Watters]

That is a day to read your.

[Tyrus]

Bible and be out of the busyness and the hurriedness and the. Just the anger and the noise of this world.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Erica, this theme, it connects with everybody. We're talking about this all the time, how we can be closer to family and to friends and be off our phones. Why was this so important for Charlie?

[Erica Tarlov]

Because he knew that it transcended any type of political label, any age group, any demographic, and it was a. Charlie was known for being a bridge builder, and this is what helped fill that generational gap between grandparents and their grandchildren or parents and their children. And he knew, being able to see it firsthand, how it impacted his family and in us. And he knew that this was something that the world needed to hear, and God did, too. And he put it on his heart, and Charlie wrote it. And I know that it's going to change and impact millions of lives.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's amazing. Let's go around.

[Jesse Watters]

Jesse, when we sat down together, you told me the routine.

[Erica Tarlov]

It was the routine.

[Jesse Watters]

On a sunny day, he'd stretch, he'd.

[Erica Tarlov]

Reflect, go for a hike.

[Jesse Watters]

What was that like on those days of Sabbath?

[Erica Tarlov]

Precious. Priceless. I saw a side of my husband that the world never got to see. And that, to me, was so special because that was him just being able to breathe, be able to be with the Lord, let my children climb all over him, be Daddy and get. Yes, the world knows him as Charlie Kirk. I know him as my husband, My babies know him as Daddy. And he was able to just reset, recalibrate, and say, you know what? The noise of this world can wait 24 hours. I can get back to it once I have a fresh brain and I'm rested.

[Dana Perino]

I'm curious of. Your children are younger than the ones that I'm thinking about, but I have friends who I think would love to do this, especially as you start to get a little bit older and maybe preteens or early teens, and they have phones and parents are looking for a way to get them off their phone. It's very difficult. And do you have any thoughts about that in terms of what it did for your family, even though that your children were younger could probably still have the same kind of effect for kids that are.

[Erica Tarlov]

Oh, well, we don't do screen. We are not screen time family with the children. I joke around that, yes, Charlie. We did watch Charlie's show all the time, and then Bob Ross for nap inducing moments. But it was very much so that screens are. That's not where our interaction is. You go to a dinner table, and if someone's on their phone while you're talking to them and having a conversation, they're half listening. So they're physically there, but they're not mentally there. So what kind of conversation is that? And so what Charlie also realized is the beauty and true authentic communication that's totally lacking these days. The fact that we can sit here and all have a conversation, the five of us, is amazing. That's. That's actually a rare thing at a dinner table. All of us are focusing on what each person's saying. But when you're at a dinner table in Manhattan and you have kids and family, half of the people have their phones. Like, it's very disconnected. So maybe more dinner tables should look like this.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, Indeed.

[Tyrus]

All right, Tyrus, there's no food on the table. First of all, it's my first time meeting you, so I'd like to say I'm very sorry for your loss. That's the first thing I'd like to say. And secondly.

How are the children and how are you holding up? Like, your daily routine obviously, is forever changed.

[Erica Tarlov]

It is.

[Tyrus]

With all the. With all the whirlwind and everything that you're between books and speech engagements and taking over Turning Point, is the. Is the goal eventually to get back to where you were with your children before, or is it. I mean, obviously it's all new and you're still going through it, but, like.

[Erica Tarlov]

No, it's a very fair question. It's a great question. I am now, at my age, having to relearn my life. It's a very fair question. My babies come with me to the office anytime that I do have to go into the office. But what is so powerful is that Charlie handpicked the leadership team at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action. He knew exactly who needed to be in the leadership roles to get things done, because he also had his radio show and his podcast, and he was traveling on campuses doing Prove Me Wrongs. So for him, he wanted to make sure that his baby. Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, they were running smoothly. And so he was so instrumental and intentional about who he put in those positions. So I am very blessed to have a team. I cannot do this without my team. And my family, I call them my family because they are those staff members, not employees. To me, they're family members. It is not a 9 to 5. It's a mission driven organization and everyone that works there is working there because they understand the heart and soul and the DNA of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action. They're not there for just getting a paycheck and it's so powerful. And Turning Point usa, I need that organization just as much as this country does because they are my family. And I know that what my husband started was founder led and now it's vision led and we are all locked in. It's very powerful.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I wanted to ask you. So I do have kids around the same age as yours and I've been overwhelmed by how you have managed this and the grace that you've shown. And in particular, as someone. I'm a reformed Jew, not particularly religious, but I was really struck by you saying just a few days after Charlie was murdered that you forgave Tyler Robinson the alleged murder. I think we're still supposed to say, can you talk to us about how you managed to do that? Because that seems like the number one life lesson that I would love to get from someone, how you could find that in yourself. And you're modeling a Christianity that is so inspirational to me, especially someone who's not particularly religious.

[Erica Tarlov]

That's very kind. I appreciate that. It's. Again, I've said this and I'll say it again, that was something I heavily preyed on. I'm not going to say something that I don't believe in. And I wouldn't expect anyone else to. And I wouldn't expect someone to understand my position, especially with something that's as horrific and evil. But at the same time, hate is very powerful from the standpoint of it's all consuming, it will deteriorate, it will tear you apart. It will. I know they say it's like drinking a poison. It impacts you more than the other person. And if I had any ounce of hate in my heart, the Lord would not be able to use me. I also want to be able to show people that. Yes, okay, you forgive someone, you don't forget what they did. It's not a weakness, it's a form of a strength to know. Okay, Lord, I am surrendering to you. You have a choice. Am I going to stand in the corner, be in fetal position and crying, or I'm going to stand on my two feet by the Lord's strength, be able to say, lord, give me grace today. I don't know how you're going to use it, but I know you'll use it for your glory. I'm here. Use me. Shine the light of where I'm supposed to go. And please, just please, every single day, give me grace. Heal me, Lord. And I just keep. It's just a repetitive thing. Faith is just a muscle. The more you use it, the stronger it gets. And I pray that everyone understands that your life might be the only Bible someone reads. So be authentic with it.

[Jesse Watters]

Greg is not here. He has the sniffles, Erica. But Harold is also not here. This is Jessica. Harold, Jesse and Greg are in a Bible study group together.

[Erica Tarlov]

Are they really?

[Jesse Watters]

Because of Charlie.

[Tyrus]

Kirk.

[Erica Tarlov]

Okay, that is really cool.

[Jesse Watters]

So every morning.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That is really cool.

[Jesse Watters]

Every morning we wake up and we're read a passage and then we text about it.

[Erica Tarlov]

Okay.

[Jesse Watters]

And it is because of Charlie.

[Erica Tarlov]

I love that.

[Tyrus]

Wait a minute.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You're not invited?

[Tyrus]

No, I lift weights in the morning.

[Erica Tarlov]

You can still get Bible verses when you're lifting.

[Tyrus]

You mentioned them, but you didn't put yourself in. But yet you're reading the texts. So you're in the group, too.

[Jesse Watters]

No, I'm in the group. I said Jesse. I spoke of myself in the third.

[Tyrus]

Person, which is annoying. I'm sorry, I speak in third person, not you. We've discussed it. It's in my contract. Tyrus doesn't like that.

[Jesse Watters]

Have you been hearing anecdotes about that? This is how Charlie impacted me. I'm reconnecting with the Lord.

[Erica Tarlov]

It is so powerful. People that are buying Bibles for the first time, going back to church in years, calling their family members and apologizing or saying, hey, can we somehow bridge this, heal this? It's powerful. And Charlie, every single day on his way into work, would text people Bible verses. And he just wanted to remind people that this is what it's all about. It's about. Your life here is so short. So are you gonna use your short time here on Earth to make this place better, or are you gonna make it worse? Are you gonna be a solution or are you gonna be an additional problem? And so every day, he wanted to help people remember. Okay, when I message you, it's to get your mind right and your heart right in the right heart space. You're gonna start off your day with a Bible verse. Even if you're not Christian, even if you're not Jewish, even if you don't believe in anything, at least you're reading something that is true and beautiful and it gets you set to have an amazing day and maybe bless someone else along the way.

[Dana Perino]

I think we have time for one more. So I just picked in this chapter, chapter 11 begins. It's called now it's yous Turn to Act. But right before that, one of the lines that Charlie wrote, it says, the Sabbath is not a burden to bear, it's a grace to embrace. And he says, in chapter 11, I write this with as much humility as possible. If I can carve out a Sabbath, so can you.

[Erica Tarlov]

That's true.

[Dana Perino]

And he talks about the demands on his time. So for people out there who are thinking, that sounds great, but I have so much to do. What would you say?

[Erica Tarlov]

Well, make adjustments and not excuses. That's what he would say. And I second that. I second that.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So stop. In the name of God. Honor the Sabbath. Why? Honoring the Sabbath will transform your life. I shouldn't shorten it. Number one on Amazon. Congratulations. On sale. Now you can go to 45books.com to get a copy of Charlie's book. And up next, we're going back to politics. Jasmine Crockett shocks the political world the JC way.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Jesse Watters]

She's definitely a low IQ person. Crockett. Oh, man. Oh, man. Now they're gonna rely on Crockett.

[Tyrus]

Crockett's gonna bring him back.

[Jesse Watters]

It's official. Jazzy Crockett running for Senate in Texas despite a Democrat not winning a statewide race in more than 30 years. But maybe that's because they haven't tried it the JC way.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I never tried it the JC way.

[Dana Perino]

We used to telling us what I can't do. But they have no idea what Crockett's crew will do. So they tell us that Texas is red.

They are lying.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We're not.

[Dana Perino]

The reality is that most Texans don't.

[Erica Tarlov]

Get out to vote. My question was, which congressional seat would.

[Dana Perino]

I be running for and for Texas 30.

[Jesse Watters]

I looked.

[Dana Perino]

I love you, Texas 30.

[Jesse Watters]

And right on cue, Jassy's giving a master class on how she'll lose by snubbing Trump voters.

[Jessica Tarlov]

How will you convert those who are supportive of him to voters for you?

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, I don't know that we'll necessarily.

[Erica Tarlov]

Convert all of Trump's supporters.

[Dana Perino]

That's not our goal.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Do you need to? Our goal is to definitely talk to people.

[Erica Tarlov]

No, we don't. We don't need to.

[Jesse Watters]

Dana Perino, does Jasmine Crockett have a chance in Texas?

[Dana Perino]

She does not, but we will cover it anyway and enjoy it. It'll be great for entertainment. So Karl Rove was on the show this morning. He's been a part of an effort in Texas over the past several years to try to increase the number of Republicans registered to vote. And they are now up 500,000 more on the Democrats. And she wants to count on people who are under 25 and on TikTok. That might be the case in Texas in the next 20 years, but it's not going to happen in the next 20 months or even 20 weeks.

[Jesse Watters]

Tyrus, you think the Cowboys are gonna be down with Jasmine Crogan?

[Tyrus]

Yeah, I'm down. What it is. I mean, her Eubonics is phenomenal. We gonna do it my way. Cuz they say I can't do this. You know what I'm saying? Like, who is voting? I'm not voting for that. Listen, it doesn't matter that it's Texas. It's anywhere. Jasmine Crockett gets attention because she says dumb, outlandish things. Media likes her because she puts ratings on, but she doesn't represent the average Democratic person. She's just playing a role. This is what we do. We've seen it. Time rubber propaganda. We had Matt Gaetz, we had Marge. People say wild stuff and they never have the substance to back it up. Crockett's not even waiting until she gets in the job to show us that she has no substance. I don't need them. You're in a leadership role. You have an entire population. You can't be like, all I care about is My one side. Even if that's really how you feel, you don't say that. You don't say to your kids, you're my favorite. You're my second favorite, and I'm not even sure you're mine. You don't say things like that when you're trying to get everyone to love you and stand in line for four hours to vote for you. Crockett, every time she opens her mouth, we get dumber when we listen to it. But it's the media's fault. It's our fault. We're talking about this. She has not passed one law. Why she's in. She's only thing she's done in her whole time in the House is complain and call names and practice trying to talk like she's auditioning for a rap video. It's pathetic.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, it's pretty ambitious, Jessica, you know, kind of a small fry in the House, and then, boom, running for Senate.

[Jessica Tarlov]

She has a huge profile. And because the Supreme Court upheld, excuse me, upheld the new gerrymandered map, she wasn't going to have the same seat that she did then. I mean, everyone's been pushed around. And Colin Allred, who was running and was getting out fundraise by James Talarico, who was thought of to be the front runner in the primary, is now talking about going to the 33rd seat, which this woman named Julie Johnson is in. She's protesting that there's going to be a lot of Democratic infighting as people figure out what seat to go for. I know that Republicans are rejoicing about the idea that Jasmine Crockett may be on the other side of the ticket. They have their own very difficult primary going on right now. John Cornyn and Ken Paxton and Wesley Hunt, the Senator Thune Leader Thune, I should say, you know, desperately wants it to be John Cornyn. Ken Baxter has a lot of support. It's kind of a similar parallel what goes on in the primary base versus what wins the general election. But I don't think that starting off your campaign by saying that there are votes that you just don't need, you should work for every single vote. And then when, if you do win, you say, even if you didn't vote for me, I'm here to support you. Tell me what you need. And also with the opening video, it was very stark. It was a striking image. Beautiful woman. It's a her versus Trump. I totally get all of that. But I would have loved that video to be about Texas and to be about the issues that are motivating you to run for a 1 in 100 job, right? Like that's a really big deal. So you talk about affordability. What does that mean? What's the life of an average Texan? How are you going to make it better? Also your personal bio. People know her because they see her on TV or clips flying around, but they don't know who Jasmine Crockett is necessarily your background, Civil rights attorney, et cetera. That's. But maybe those videos will come.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, the JC Way, I think. Jesus Christ.

[Erica Tarlov]

I was just. You took my. That was just what I was gonna say. I said if you were gonna do it. Okay. Correct. Y' all ain't never tried it the JC way? The Jesus Christ way. If you wanna try it the Jesus Christ way, that would be Crockett and Nancy Mace after having a duel, they go and get Subway afterwards. That's it. You know, he came to save people and these people are trying to save themselves. Totally different thing. But I feel that if you did it the Jesus Christ way, we wouldn't have this issue. But turning point action about 2026, because we're focused on the red wall. And we're going to be focused on New Hampshire, Nevada and Arizona. And so we're stoked for 2026. And we will. Turning point action will do it the Jesus Christ way.

[Jesse Watters]

All right.

[Erica Tarlov]

There you go.

[Tyrus]

You do realize, Jesse, that when she said Texas was not red, it was a long pause in her fired up crowd. It was like they didn't get that. Okay, this is off to a horrible start.

[Jesse Watters]

All right. You hear that, Jessica? It's called the red wall.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I did hear it.

[Jesse Watters]

Get used to it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I will not get used to it.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay, let's see how it shakes out. No predictions. We don't want you to be wrong again.

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[Erica Tarlov]

Airports are getting a MAHA makeover. Secretary Sean Duffy and RFK Jr are having a good old fashioned pull up competition at Reagan National Airport. Secretary Duffy says he's open to adding similar workout equipment to airports nationwide. It's part of a $1 billion upgrade plan aimed at improving the travel experience. And here's why he says it matters.

[Tyrus]

It's pretty wide open on what airports want to ask. Ask for a grant.

[Jesse Watters]

But it might be.

[Tyrus]

I want to expand the play areas for kids. Kids. I want additional nursing pods for nursing mothers. Maybe I want a workout area where people might get some blood flow and.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Doing some pull ups or some step.

[Tyrus]

Ups in the airport.

[Erica Tarlov]

Okay. So, Tyrus.

[Tyrus]

Yes, ma'. Am.

[Erica Tarlov]

I'm assuming you're an athlete. I was an athlete, yes. I would choose leg day over arm day. Any day.

[Tyrus]

Yes. Well, nope, that's leg day. Leg day is the truth.

[Erica Tarlov]

So you would do squats, Cyrus?

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, I would not do any.

[Tyrus]

I'm sorry. I feel like I. Jessica, I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to be the Democrat in the chair today. This is preposterous. The last thing you need at the gym is somebody working out. And RFK Jr. I call him a friend. I don't need to see his armpit sweat. And that's gonna be sitting next to me on the airplane. I'm sorry, I object. No, you don't need a billion dollars. You wanna fix the airport. Open some damn windows, put some plants in there and play some classical music and everyone will behave. That doesn't cost a billion dollars. No workouts. You want to take some chairs out and put a little swing for little Johnny? No, they need to practice sitting quietly. It's the airport. It's the new library. We should have librarians in the airport. When you start FaceTiming with your friend without headphones and go, shh. It's the quiet place. We're all going to go on a flight, listen to Beethoven, smell the plants, and act accordingly.

[Dana Perino]

Tyrus and I are sharing a moment because I wrote down here. I traveled over the holidays. We went quite a way around the world. There is an epidemic of people talking on their speakerphones. It's the worst invention ever made, and it's horrible. And it actually makes everybody mad. It makes me want to, like, run through the wall. It makes people get into arguments and fight. We need the quiet car or the quiet area. And it Needs to be enforced.

[Tyrus]

There's this little speakerphone called headphones. Put them on or work on your penmanship. Text away.

[Erica Tarlov]

Charlie used to want. Because when you come back into the United States after traveling abroad, it's this really boring video of like, hi, welcome to the United States. Please step to this line. He was like, I want. When you walk in, this was like a passion project of his. When you walk down the aisle, you have these eagles on these massive screens flying by you. God bless America's playing. Then you have the massive American flag. And it's like the Founding Fathers. He wanted to make it a whole thing. And as a mom, I'm like, yes. Because then you can tell your kids, look, these are the Founding Fathers. We're home. Aren't you excited?

[Jesse Watters]

You should have Kid Rock do the video at customs.

[Erica Tarlov]

There you go.

[Jesse Watters]

You walk through on repeat. A little Kid Rock action. I don't know, Tyrus. I think pull up bars at an airport are a great idea. You get. You burn off a little anxiety. No one's sweating.

[Dana Perino]

Everyone's going to get.

[Tyrus]

No one can do Demand demonstrating in the videos, armpits look like Great Lakes in Minnesota. What are you talking about?

[Jesse Watters]

He did 20. No one can even do three. All right, you're not going to break.

[Tyrus]

You're going to waste money and just have empty, lonely poles.

[Jesse Watters]

It will be a waste of money because how corrupt the country is. Each bar is going to cost $100,000. Yes, but I do like the idea of tax classical music and plants. That is a great idea. And why do we limit it to an airport? Why don't we have them in parks? Why not train stations? Why not beaches? It's going to become a thing. And there's going to be a major competition. I haven't seen them, Dana. And I'm missed. I'm like Abby Hornacek. I'm parked. I think we're burying the lead, though. If you did the research, which I happened to do for once.

[Tyrus]

Okay.

[Jesse Watters]

John Duffy's daughter, who's 13, beat him in the pull up competition. She did 13, he only did 10. Congrats.

[Erica Tarlov]

I would much prefer squats.

[Jesse Watters]

Well, you can do air squats. With equipment.

[Erica Tarlov]

With classical music.

[Jesse Watters]

With classical music.

[Erica Tarlov]

With my plans.

[Tyrus]

And a librarian. Or airport Aryan. Yeah, well, maybe lose the Aryan part.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, I think.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All of it. I like the idea of making the American flying experience more family friendly. It's much better in Europe where they actually care that you have children and they're trying to help you. But, you know, dressing up Taking it more seriously. Totally get it. I actually like the little kid play area. If you are stuck there, it's like a nice thing to have. But what people want is no more delays. They want more air traffic controllers so we could be fully staffed and we can be safe. And they want you to be on the side of the flyers, of the consumers, not of the airlines. So don't strip back protections for the average person who's going to the airport. It might be delayed nine hours, for instance, and then not get any compensation for it. That's what they want more than anything. And to see RFK Jr. S sweaty pits.

[Erica Tarlov]

Okay, the fastest is up next.

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[Dana Perino]

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[Erica Tarlov]

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[Tyrus]

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[Tyrus]

Welcome back. What it is love is blind until the outfits clash. Gen Z couples are calling it quits over their partner's lack of style and what is being dubbed as the swag gap. Dana.

[Dana Perino]

Yep.

[Tyrus]

This is fake news.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No. Is it? How do you know?

[Tyrus]

I'm just sitting in the negative chair today. Is there Greg residue here? This is. Couples don't break up over the way they dress because men, we dress bad.

[Dana Perino]

But I. This is how I read it. It's that they're not even breaking up. It's that they're. It's like they can't even get to the second date. It's like if they. If you show up to your first date and there's a swag gap or your style is not matching, then they're like they got the ick and they gotta go.

[Tyrus]

No, but see, if that's your mindset, you're never gonna get a good man.

[Erica Tarlov]

I know.

[Dana Perino]

And that's why they're driving me crazy.

[Tyrus]

We have dirt under our fingernails. We don't dress up. We dress out.

[Dana Perino]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyrus]

You know, then she tells you how to dress and make you wear blazers that you're not comfortable in wearing what you do. No woman is like, I can't be with that man. He's a poor dresser. They'll be like, I can fix that.

[Jesse Watters]

So you're. So that was not your decision today.

[Tyrus]

No, no, no. My. All my jackets are sponsored by my beautiful, lovely wife, Ingrid, and she's helping me be a better me. I. I'm more comfortable in the jacket now. But that's not what this is about, Jesse. Tyrus doesn't like when you try to switch conversations.

[Jesse Watters]

No, my conversation is, my wife's a fit model, and she's got great style, and I was wearing jeans that were too tight for about a decade, and she never told me until last week. I'm like, babe, all my jeans are way too tight. I'm wearing skinny jeans. And she's like, yeah, your jeans have been too tight for years.

[Tyrus]

Why didn't you tell me I can leave the show? Yeah, I'm taking my book. I'm going home. Because you just proved my point. With all your battles with Jessica and Harold, you would think you'd be a little better on the fly. Jesse, your talking time is up. The fastest is done for you, Jessica. I'm sorry for that. Dumber. For that. Would you leave your husband or. And on a first date because he wasn't dressed well?

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, but we do fight about. He loves sweater vests, and he thinks that it's cool and stylish, and we. And I don't love the color brown. I feel like it's.

[Dana Perino]

It's a neutral, though.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I know, but it's like. It's hard for. You know, it's like.

[Tyrus]

How do you feel about cloud white?

[Erica Tarlov]

Sure.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I love all shades of white. Just no brown. I know where you were trying to get me to go.

[Tyrus]

No, no, it's a new color that just came out. Remember they said in the thing, anyways, my husband.

[Erica Tarlov]

Okay, I will say it. My husband was not the best dresser. Him and I disagreed on fashion. I didn't care if he wanted to wear shorts with compression stockings, which he did, because he wanted. It was more comfort than. And functionality then fashion. I supported that. And I said, I love you, baby. You do you do you. I'm not gonna try and change you. If you want to wear your suit for this event, great. If you want to wear your stockings while you go hiking, great. I support you. We're all about efficiency.

[Dana Perino]

Those are hotter. Arizona compression stockings.

[Erica Tarlov]

Circulation.

[Dana Perino]

Biohack hot though.

[Erica Tarlov]

I know.

[Tyrus]

It's great for the calves though. And someone as big as leg days as you are, you should appreciate somebody.

[Dana Perino]

Who needs to work on their calves should pay attention.

[Tyrus]

I could.

[Dana Perino]

That'd be you.

[Tyrus]

You know what? It said tease is next. But tease is happening right now.

[Dana Perino]

That's right.

[Tyrus]

You're supposed to be better than that. All right, one more thing is up next.

[Jesse Watters]

They did the job. Money came with aids, but one couldn't stop.

[Dana Perino]

It's like he had a disease. He robbed another.

[Jesse Watters]

And another.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And my sister and.

[Erica Tarlov]

And a brother.

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[Dana Perino]

It's time now for one more thing. I'll kick it off. So I'm kind of bummed that Greg's not here today, but maybe it's a good thing because I have an announcement for something he doesn't love, which is romantic comedy. But he said he'll read this one. So I just wrote a novel.

[Erica Tarlov]

It's called Purple.

[Dana Perino]

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Okay, if you liked everything, we'll be okay. You'll probably like this.

[Tyrus]

Love is black and white. If I'm involved.

[Dana Perino]

Well, that's actually true for you. That's funny. Thank you, Everybody. Thank you. HarperCollins and Fox News.

[Jesse Watters]

Jesse, Dana, congratulations. I cannot wait to read it a rom com. My mom, my wife, everybody will read it and I'll get around to it.

[Dana Perino]

Okay?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Thank you.

[Jesse Watters]

It looks really good. As long as there's sex.

[Dana Perino]

Is there sex illusions too?

[Jesse Watters]

Okay, that's enough.

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[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay, we have a very cute symphony of woofs in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Yesterday, dog lovers gathered in a local park to set a world record for the largest assembly of golden retrievers. The record is 2,397 goldens. People on social media nicknamed the massive meetup the golden Wave. Like the blue wave.

[Dana Perino]

I like that wave.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Red wall.

[Dana Perino]

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[Erica Tarlov]

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[Dana Perino]

Excellent. One more thing. Tyrus.

[Tyrus]

Tyrus, just make it quick because I can't do the other part. Plan a Tyrus comedy tour tickets Linktree Tyrus Smash and I'll be all over the country. Look at the fancy awesome matching my seat coat.

[Dana Perino]

Where are you going February 27th?

[Tyrus]

February 27th I will be in Decatur, Illinois.

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, got it. Illinois.

[Dana Perino]

And what about March 16th? You're going to go to Arizona for Erica.

[Erica Tarlov]

Yes.

[Dana Perino]

You guys, this has been Erica. You were amazing. Amazing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Love you guys.

[Dana Perino]

That's it for us. Have a great.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Jesse Watters]

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[Erica Tarlov]

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[Tyrus]

Yeah.

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[Tyrus]

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