Supreme Court Strikes Down Trump’s Tarriffs

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Five

Episode: Supreme Court Strikes Down Trump’s Tariffs
Date: February 21, 2026
Host & Panelists: Martha MacCallum, Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld (FOX News Podcasts)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down President Trump’s sweeping tariffs under the Emergency Powers Law. The panel debates the legal, economic, and political repercussions, including the immediate and alternative steps taken by Trump. The discussion covers reactions from Democrats, the strategic impact for Trump, and the broader context for U.S. trade policy and governance. Additional segments include a discussion on San Francisco’s new crackdown on public drug use, Susan Rice’s statement on accountability for corporations under future Democratic control, a light segment on the Baywatch reboot, and the panel’s “Fan Mail Friday” and “One More Thing.”

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Main Segment: Supreme Court Strikes Down Trump’s Tariffs

Setting the Stage ([00:42]–[01:47])

• Martha MacCallum summarizes the Supreme Court’s 6–3 decision, noting it was a setback for Trump’s economic agenda but highlights his resilience.
• Trump immediately responds by implementing a 10% global tariff under the Trade Act of 1974, set to expire in five months unless Congress extends it.

Trump's Reaction ([01:47]–[03:05])

• Donald Trump (clip):

  “The Supreme Court's ruling on tariffs is deeply disappointing. And I'm ashamed of certain members of the Court, absolutely ashamed for not having the courage to do what's right for our country… Foreign countries… are ecstatic… but they won't be dancing for long.” (01:49)

• Trump criticizes the Court and vows to fight on via alternative legislative tools.
• When asked if justices are still invited to the State of the Union:

  “They are invited. Barely. I think it's an embarrassment to their families, you want to know the truth?” (03:05)

Democratic Response and Context ([03:11]–[03:39])

• California Governor Gavin Newsom calls Trump’s tariffs “an illegal cash grab” (03:11).
• Greg Gutfeld, Paul Morrow, Jesse Watters discuss the decision as beneficial for the U.S. economy and an important check on presidential power.

Legal Mechanics and Trump’s Strategic Options ([04:52]–[06:42])

• Paul Morrow:
  • Surprised at Trump’s outrage, describing available workarounds—especially Section 232 (1962 Trade Act) for targeted national security tariffs (primarily against China).

  • “The mistake… was that he put an across the board tariff and then tried to say it was an emergency. It is an emergency relative to specific countries. But when you do it to everybody, the argument… gets undermined...” (04:52)

• Suggests the Supreme Court decision may help counter narratives that the Court is 'in Trump’s pocket' when future cases (e.g., voting rights) arise.

Economic and Strategic Debate ([06:42]–[09:11])

• Jessica Tarlov:
  • Sees Trump's response as doubling down on a losing economic policy.

  • “We know that the average American household paid an extra thousand dollars last year because of these tariffs… 90% of the cost was transferred right over to the average American.” (07:44–07:59)

  • Questions restitution of $175B collected via tariffs, responses from trading partners, and campaign strategy implications.
• Martha MacCallum highlights the historic inertia in U.S. trade policy post-WWII and the tendency to avoid bold moves without executive action.

Strategic Merit of Blanket Tariffs ([09:49]–[12:16])

• Jesse Watters:
  • Defends Trump’s use of sweeping tariffs as a foreign policy tool, arguing it forces rapid trade negotiations and reshoring.

  • “This is what Jessica doesn't understand about the strategy… it knocks every other country out of their seat. They rush to Washington, D.C. and sign these deals as fast as possible. The deals are still in place. Foreign investment is still pouring in…” (09:49)

• Critiques the Court for slowing trade actions (“telling a landscaper you can't use a leaf blower, you have to use a rake”), says U.S. needs agility in economic retaliation.
• Notes potential benefits of investigation-based tariffs for targeted protection and strategic carve-outs.

Philosophical and Media Critique ([12:16]–[14:35])

• Greg Gutfeld:
  • Frames the ruling as adjusting, not ending, Trump’s leverage.
  • Criticizes media and political narratives that painted the SCOTUS as “in Trump’s pocket.”

  • “For the people that are gloating, they were probably the same people who backed the student loan bailout… there’s always a workaround, but shut up is what I’m saying.” (12:36–13:02)

  • Suggests Republicans are pragmatic—tariffs are merely a tool, not an ideology.

Constitutional Considerations and Parting Shots ([14:35]–[15:11])

• Gutfeld & Tarlov banter over Gorsuch’s concurrence and the broader risk of executive overreach under “emergency” justifications.
• Humorous aside on “trans dogs” and progressive priorities.

  • “If you don’t trans your dog, that’s the apocalypse.” (14:41, Greg Gutfeld)

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Segment 2: San Francisco's Crackdown on Public Drug Use ([16:24]–[24:00])

Announcement and Policy Overview ([16:24]–[16:54])

• Paul Morrow and Greg Gutfeld discuss Mayor Daniel Lurie’s plan to arrest open-air drug users, placing them in care facilities.

Panel Reactions ([17:28]–[18:35])

• Jessica Tarlov:
  • Supports the move, seeing broad support among city residents and describing Lurie’s approach as blending compassion with public safety.

  • “You don’t have to choose between clean, safe neighborhoods and compassion for those struggling on the streets.” (17:28)

• Greg Gutfeld:
  • Jokes about partisan responses, suggests the left’s definition of compassion has allowed city decay.

  • “If it comes out that I’m for it, then the Dems will decide it’s evil. If anybody at Fox News likes this, they’re going to hate it… it's a really stupid idea. It's created by the woke to exploit the rich to pay for trans surgeries for dogs." (18:35–19:14)

Practical and Policy Concerns ([20:27]–[21:44])

• Martha MacCallum questions where those arrested will go, noting past resistance to moving homeless into shelters.
• Paul Morrow details the “devil in the details”: not fully carceral—addicts can leave, but repeated use can prompt rearrest.

Political Angle and Realistic Outcomes ([22:07]–[23:46])

• Jesse Watters:
  • Argues Democrats are only applauding the crackdown because it’s by a Democrat; if Trump did it, the left “would be calling him Hitler.”
  • Suggests this proves real change is possible and necessary in U.S. cities.
• Universal hope on the panel that similar policy spreads and begins to restore beleaguered urban areas.

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Segment 3: Susan Rice’s "Retribution" Warning ([24:44]–[31:13])

Susan Rice's Statement ([24:47]–[25:17])

• Greg Gutfeld summarizes Rice’s warning that Democrats will aggressively hold corporations “accountable” if they regain power.

  “It’s not going to end well for them. They’re going to be caught with more than their pants down. They’re going to be held accountable…” (Susan Rice, [24:56])

Panel Interpretation ([25:17]–[27:04])

• Gutfeld:
  • Reads Rice’s comments as a threat against businesses that don’t toe the party line.
  • Argues Democrats already misuse federal power for retribution.
• Martha MacCallum:
  • Observes corporations shifting away from DEI initiatives in favor of merit and shareholder accountability, especially after backlash post-George Floyd.

Internal Logic and Partisan Irony ([28:08]–[31:13])

• Jessica Tarlov:
  • Chides Republicans for “fake outrage,” pointing to Trump’s own record of targeting opponents.

  • “Take the L, as Donald Trump should on the tariffs… Obviously, the outrage over this is completely fake.” (28:08)

  • Notes lack of mainstream coverage on Trump personalizing government buildings.
• Paul Morrow:
  • Sees Rice’s statement as self-defeating and opening herself up to legal retaliation:

    “If this is something, then realistically, you could play the same game. You're going to come after us, Susan Rice… we can come after you.” (29:56)

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Light Segment Highlights

Baywatch Reboot ([31:34]–[34:21])

• Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld, and panel reminisce about 90s Baywatch, discuss the casting call, and joke about changing beauty standards.
• Gutfeld:

  “We want hot bodies. We don’t want tattooed jugs of flesh under a blue wig. It’s over.” (33:09)

Fan Mail Friday ([34:41]–[36:14])

• Panelists share things they enjoy they “should have outgrown” (Olympic wear, Hello Kitty, comic book art, drawing boobs).
• Fears that would make a hellish amusement park: rats, seafood, early mornings, deep puddles, germy ball pits, snakes.

One More Thing ([38:09]–[41:28])

• Greg shares “Prairie Dog News” as a mock segment.
• Jesse spotlights Lithuania’s Shrovetide.
• Jessica covers London’s National Pancake Day.
• Martha shows a viral turkey chase video, offers turkey defense tips.
• Paul celebrates the USA Women's Olympic Hockey team’s success, noting their anthem and pride.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Donald Trump:

  “Foreign countries that have been ripping us off for years are ecstatic… but they won’t be dancing for long.” ([01:49])

• Paul Morrow:

  “The mistake… was that he put an across the board tariff and then tried to say it was an emergency.” ([04:52])

• Jessica Tarlov:

  “We know that the average American household paid an extra thousand dollars last year because of these tariffs.” ([07:44])

• Jesse Watters:

  “This is what Jessica doesn’t understand about the strategy… it knocks every other country out of their seat. They rush to Washington, D.C. and sign these deals as fast as possible.” ([09:49])

• Greg Gutfeld:

  “It was entirely about leverage… For the people that are gloating, they were probably the same people who backed the student loan bailout… there's always a workaround, but shut up is what I’m saying.” ([12:36–13:02])

• San Francisco segment:

  “You don’t have to choose between clean, safe neighborhoods and compassion for those struggling on the streets.” – Jessica Tarlov ([17:28])

• Greg Gutfeld (humor):

  “Just do your heroin indoors. That’s all we’re asking.” ([23:56])

• Susan Rice statement:

  “They’re going to be caught with more than their pants down. They’re going to be held accountable…” ([24:56])

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Key Timestamps

• [00:42] Martha sets the episode’s focus
• [01:47] Trump’s post-ruling reaction (clip)
• [03:11] Democrat responses, Newsom’s dig
• [04:52] Paul explains legal strategies and alternatives
• [06:57] Jessica on economic impact, Gorsuch’s concurrence
• [09:49] Jesse defends Trump’s tariff strategy
• [12:36] Greg on leverage and media narratives
• [16:24] San Francisco drug arrest policy discussion
• [17:28] Jessica praises Lurie’s balanced approach to public drug use
• [22:07] Jesse frames drug crackdown’s political angle
• [24:47] Susan Rice “retribution” discussion begins
• [25:17] Greg interprets Rice’s warning as a threat
• [31:34] “Baywatch” reboot lighthearted discussion
• [34:41] “Fan Mail Friday” – personal quirks and childhood favorites
• [38:09] “One More Thing” – fun animal and global news

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Tone & Style

The five panelists maintain their signature blend of news analysis, heated debate, and sharp humor. The episode features robust conservative viewpoints, lively banter, and characteristic irreverence—punctuated by direct panelist and guest quotes to preserve the original spirit.

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This summary covers all critical content and offers a guided walkthrough for those who missed the episode, preserving the participants’ perspectives, key arguments, and the episode’s energetic atmosphere.

Transcript

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[Martha MacCallum]

Hello, everybody. I'm Martha Macallum along with Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It is the five, it is New York City and it is live. Hi, everybody. All right, so as you saw today, President Trump is not deterred. He's not happy, but he's not deterred. After the Supreme Court struck down his sweeping tariffs under the emergency Powers Law. It was a 6 to 3 decision and it did upend in some ways something that has been a major tool of his economic agenda and a word that he says is his favorite word of all, tariffs. So no doubt bit of a setback, but I'm not sure how much. He says he's not giving up. He's vowing that alternatives will be put in place. And he wasted no time on this. He put in a 10% global tariff under a different trade act, the Trade act of 1974. And those tariffs will expire in five months. That's a pretty long time unless Congress extends them after that. And the President had much more to say on this in the briefing room.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Watch.

[Donald Trump]

The Supreme Court's ruling on tariffs is deeply disappointing. And I'm ashamed of certain members of the Court, absolutely ashamed for not having the courage to do what's right for our country. Foreign countries that have been ripping us off for years are ecstatic. They're so happy and they're dancing in the streets, but they won't be dancing for long. This happens so often with this court. What a shame having to do with voting in particular, when in fact they're just being fools and lapdogs for the RINOs and the radical left Democrats. They're very unpatriotic and disloyal to our Constitution. I understand how they are very easily swayed. I went to be a good boy. I said to the owner of, I made a speech at a factory and I said, how are you? Nice to meet you. How's business? President, I'd love to kiss you. This is A very powerful man. I don't want to be kissed by that man.

[Jesse Watters]

But why wouldn't you just work with Congress to come up with a plan?

[Donald Trump]

I don't have to.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Supreme Court justices who ruled against this, the policy, striking it down, are they still invited to your State of the Union next week?

[Paul Morrow]

And will you speak with.

[Donald Trump]

They are invited. Barely. I think it's an embarrassment to their families. You want to know the truth?

[Martha MacCallum]

All right, there you have it. Lively news conference today from the president. Some potential 2028 Democrats. Of course, they wasted no time to try to take advantage of this moment. California Governor Gavin Newsom gloated on ax. Within minutes, he said, this time to pay the piper. Donald, your tariffs were nothing more than an illegal cash grab that drove up prices, hurt working families and wrecked long standing global alliances. And other Democrats also eager to weigh in watch.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm glad the Supreme Court was able

[Paul Morrow]

to look at it from an independent

[Greg Gutfeld]

lens and just look at the legality of it. I think the president needs to actually

[Paul Morrow]

listen to the Supreme Court and drop

[Greg Gutfeld]

this and stop the pain for Pennsylvania

[Paul Morrow]

and stop the pains for the American people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

This is good news for the American

[Jesse Watters]

economy and for so many families around the country.

[Greg Gutfeld]

This is also a very important reminder

[Jesse Watters]

that this president is not unstoppable.

[Martha MacCallum]

You know, Paul Morrow, I want to start with you on the legal side of this. You know, it strikes me, listening to the reaction from Democrats there that, you know, the economy is showing a lot of signs of improvement. Wages are up, gas prices are down. You know, there's, there's a lot of, most economists are evaluating this as an about to turn around significantly economy. I also see this. I was a little bit surprised in some ways that the president was so upset about this. And I talked to a few people who thought, you know, he's still winning on this. And he could have just come out and said, you know what, whatever about your ruling. But we're going to figure out a way, we have a number of other options on this which they've been working on for some time and we can put those into place. It's not a big loss and I don't think that money's ever going to get paid back. $175 billion brought in, in, in tariffs. I don't know how they would do that.

[Paul Morrow]

I'm surprised that he actually has made as big a deal out of this as he has because there are very clear workarounds. The best one I see is 232. We've talked about it 1962 Trade Act. What he can do is he can use those powers to specific countries for national security reasons. Those are the ones that matter, as in China. Message to Newsom, by the way, who in my estimation is very much in China's pocket due to Silicon Valley. He can go at those individual nations. The mistake, I feel, that was made here is that he put an across the board tariff and then tried to say it was an emergency. It is an emergency relative to specific countries. But when you do it to everybody, the argument that it's an emergency gets undermined, which is one of the things that the plaintiff said here in this case relative to the restitution. And I just hope that the trade deals that they cut after the tariffs were done by a good contract attorney. Here's why. Because what happens with that is it's essentially, it's an international contract, right? They cut deals due to tariffs and they cut trade deals with us. Consequently, I would have had in there a non restitution clause. That is to say, okay, if you come at me later and try to say, hey, this was done on false pretenses, I want the money back. Here's clause B pilot. You get nothing. I hope that they did it that way, because if that's the case and that's there, this is a big, big nothing burger. And strategically, let's move from legal. Legal, I think he's going to get it. By the way he goes. The only requirement here to go into 232, the Commerce Department has to do an investigation. You know who's the head of the Commerce Department? Lutnick. All right. He gets that overnight. So the thing here is that strategically, strategically, when the voting rights decision comes down, and that is, in my estimation, going to go his way, which is much more impactful when the left starts to say SCOTUS is in his pocket, he has to say, hey, look at the last one that I lost. Strategically, this is not that big a deal and in fact, may help him in the future.

[Martha MacCallum]

Yeah. And of course, the Roe v. Wade decision went the way that he and conservatives wanted it to go, a huge decision. So, Jessica, when you look at, you know, his attitude towards the court on this one, what's your reaction?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I'm not surprised that he didn't take the win, actually, that they handed him on this. There was a great opportunity to say this wasn't my fault. You know, my plan was working. The court is bad, but not so bad. We've gotten these really good things from them because you got a lot of great decisions as far as he's concerned and then move away from an economic policy that's been hurting everyday Americans and American businesses, but instead to double down and go with, as Paul pointed out, this 10% blanket tariff which shows that you're not actually thinking about what you're doing, you're just mad and you love tariffs and so you're slapping it on everyone.

[Paul Morrow]

I didn't say that.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, that was me. That part was me. I just said the blanket part. But you did say that. That's why he was able to be undermined because he did the blanket. It's a reasonable, it's an emergency.

[Paul Morrow]

It is. It's a reasonable.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The Supreme Court made and Palmyra made it now. Jessica Tarlow. So it's got to be good. You know, we know that the average American household paid an extra thousand dollars last year because of these tariffs. We know that the American average American,

[Martha MacCallum]

$2,000 extra under the Biden economy.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, dealing with inflation that you got because of a global health pandemic versus tariffs that he chose to put on us are very, very different. You know that 90% of the cost was transferred right over to the average American. You know also that we only had GDP growth for Q4 of 1.4%. I don't know if you're watching TV this morning. There was shock on people's face. It was below even the lowest expectation. I think that Gorsuch is concurrence was maybe the most important part of the majority opinion today where he basically said we have a constitution. I know that you don't like it and that you think that you should bypass Congress, but there is a way that we do things here. And saying that it's only Democrats who are upset about tariffs really misses point. Rand Paul out front on this. There were I think six Republican House members that voted with Democrats to remove the tariffs on Canada. Three outstanding questions. $175 billion is owed back to Americans. How are we getting it? JB Pritzker is already suing the administration. Seventeen hundred dollars per Illinois residential. How will our trading partners respond? And then where will Trump go with this? We heard the 10% already, but there is an opportunity. Back off because Republicans don't want to campaign for the midterms with a bunch of unnecessary tariffs.

[Martha MacCallum]

Well, there's a historic argument that after World War II, you know, the trade relationships that were put in place to help those countries recover after World War II were essentially still in effect in a latter day form. And that if you don't, if you don't go in bold on some of these things and shake up the chessboard. Nothing will ever happen if you wait for Congress to try to rectify these injustices that have been existing in trade relationships for so long. So I think this is classic Australia. I think this is classic Trump Mo Jesse, that he's like, go big, swing for the fences. I'll deal with the courts later. At least then I've moved the ball down the road.

[Jesse Watters]

This is what Jessica doesn't understand about the strategy is because he directs US Foreign policy and foreign trade falls under foreign policy. That's why he went big, sweeping across the board tariffs, because it knocks every other country out of their seat. They rush to Washington, D.C. and sign these deals as fast as possible. The deals are still in place. Foreign investment is still pouring in. And that's when you look at the construction activity, that all of the factories are being built because as these tariffs are set, it's cheaper to build the product here. So it doesn't get hit with the duty that it comes in.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Thousand manufacturing jobs.

[Jesse Watters]

No, we're talking about construction. That always precedes manufacturing. I'll talk to you about that later. So the Supreme Court comes in and says, listen, you can't use this authority. You have to use this authority. So you have to do an investigation first. That's like telling a landscaper you can't use a leaf blower. You got to use a rake. It's going to take a little longer, but it's going to accomplish the same thing. Thing we need speed. This is the 21st century. You have to give the President a free hand to negotiate these deals and retaliate when the other side retaliates. Carney in Canada doesn't have to go to Parliament. He doesn't have to conduct an investigation. He hits back hard. Ursula in the eu, same thing.

[Paul Morrow]

Xi Jinping.

[Jesse Watters]

He dumps any tariffs. He's got a sword and a shield.

[Jessica Tarlov]

He's addicted.

[Jesse Watters]

He's not a sitting duck. Oh, so is Carney. Then he. He's not a sitting duck like us who has to wait and then go and do an investigation and then come back. This is what we need now. Not only this, he's now gotten the Panama Canal back from tariffs. He's brought Greenland back into our orbit, and he's gotten NATO funding boosted from tariffs. Not to mention the fact that wars have been settled because of tariffs. This is what's going to happen. He's just going to reinstitute the same posture under a different code, and they're going to go back to where they were. But the silver lining as you're right this time when you do an investigation, you might be able to target strategic industries and do carve outs like coffee or clothing. Non national security related issues. And then you can still have a tariff regime that keeps in charge of economic national security. And we still have the justices invited to the State of the Union.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, that is most important.

[Martha MacCallum]

I mean, Greg, the Justice's job is to evaluate the law that was used and decide whether or not it makes sense, legal sense to them within the realm of the Constitution. You know, they need to figure out separation of powers. That's what they did. I don't think it undermined this entire program at all. What do you think?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Try to think of something that hasn't been said yet in the last three hours. I gotta say, it's tough. I don't think I'm with Paul in the sense that it doesn't block the system of tariffs, it just adjusts the leverage. It was entirely about leverage. And for the people that are gloating, they were probably the same people who backed the student loan bailout. You know, they could stfu. The Supreme Court pooped on that, but that didn't stop Biden, did it? Or how about the vaccine mandates? Supreme Court crapped on that too, but they still did it to the government employees. There's always a workaround, but shut up is what I'm saying. Here's what the media won't tell you it again. It's about how much they lie about things. They lie about everything, including the Supreme Court, which they defined as maga. Remember, the Supreme Court was in Trump's pocket and this was another scary narrative that was used in order for them to push things like term limits and packing the courts. But what it also did was it inflamed the public with, with this demonizing rhetoric that led to, you know, unwell leftists, surprise, surprise, trying to kill a Supreme Court justice. It's interesting how all of this rhetoric leads in one place. People trying to kill Republicans. The thing about being a Republican though, we don't need a utopia. You know, we're used to work. So if we don't get it through this time, we do it something else. Our goals are secondary to our system and we have a system. We say Trump has a very unique system and it has a lot to do with leverage and working on behalf of the American people. Again, he's our a hole. He's not the world's a hole. He does it for us. And tariffs are not an emotional thing to us. It's just a tool. But it's because it's an emotional thing for Democrats. They have to take it as, oh yeah, this is so great. It's like, you know what? This is just another day. We're gonna get it whether you like it or not.

[Paul Morrow]

You know who's a real loser here? Iran. Because POTUS is in a bad mood, by the way.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I do get what, I do get what Gorsuch is saying. You know, you don't want to open up the opportunity for other presidents to enact policies based on emergencies of their design. But that would never stop a Democrat because they do that anyway. If you don't trans your dog, that's the apocalypse.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So you know, they got all our trans puppies.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, we, they never consider the ramifications of what they're doing now. But as conservatives and Republicans, it's in our blood to think about consequences. Unfortunately.

[Jesse Watters]

How does a trans dog pee? Lift their leg or do they squat?

[Paul Morrow]

That's the C block. We'll get to that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They have a gender neutral tree.

[Jesse Watters]

That's right.

[Martha MacCallum]

All right, coming up next, a stunner by San Francisco standards. The city will start arresting, imagine this, people who are doing drugs on their streets.

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[Paul Morrow]

Talk about long overdue. After years of poop covered streets and homeless addicts making life hell for citizens, San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie announcing that this city will start arresting anyone doing drugs on the streets and place them in a high volume care facility. Watch this.

[Greg Gutfeld]

If you use drugs on our streets, we will arrest you. But with this new resource, we will also give those suffering from addiction a real chance to.

[Paul Morrow]

Now this is the kind of tough on crime governance people have been begging for. But crime ridden Oakland should take some pointers. Their mayor, Barbara Lee became the latest crime victim in her city after a homeless man squatting in city hall stole her car from the parking lot. Not that that's embarrassing. Jessica Let me come to you. This seems like a good idea, I gotta say, right? I mean, Lurie is saying, you know what, we are going to get these people off the street. But he's catching like a lot of grief. Is this the dead cat bounce for progressive policies in our cities?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I haven't seen the grief about this. And I was just in San Francisco last week. Everyone's very. No, it's fundamentally different than it was when London Breed was mayor and in a record amount of time. And I encountered nobody who lived there or was visiting. I was at a conference who isn't a fan of what's gone on here. It's not fully cleaned up. There's the Tenderloin, still has parts of it. The Mission, a couple blocks in there. But I think this is really good. And the key part of his philosophy that appeals to me as a big city dwelling liberal, you don't have to choose between clean, safe neighborhoods and compassion for those struggling on the streets. That's what every Democrat that I know believes. And so if people are, you know, screaming at the fringes about this and maybe they have some way to make taking people off the street as compassionate as possible and making sure that they get the care that they need, like, let's work together on that. But Lurie is winning fans on the left and the right for this approach.

[Paul Morrow]

The problem, Greg, is that in other cities the fringes are running things. As in the city you and I are sitting in right now, my role.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I kind of hope that he cracks the seal on this and make. Because a lot of these bears are incredibly coward. They're cowardly like Brandon Johnson. They are scared of their activists. They might not ever do this, but maybe if they see him do it. You know, I love this so much. I feel like I should condemn it because if it. If it comes out that I'm for it, then the Dems will decide that it's evil. If anybody at Fox News likes this, they're going to hate it. So I'm going to say right now that this is a really stupid idea. It's created by the woke up to exploit the rich to pay for trans surgeries for dogs.

[Paul Morrow]

Very clever.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. But you know what? You know what is compassion? And the problem with the left is the compassion. They defined it as basically letting people destroy themselves because it's their choice. But along the way, they started destroying the cities and harming other people who just want to shop and whatever. If this works and he emerges, Lurie emerges as the sensible mayor. And it spreads, he will be the 2028 candidate, which will be hilarious because he'll just undercut Gavin Newsom because Gavin Newsom didn't have the stones to do this, but this mayor did. And you know what? Perhaps Democrats will realize that white men with business backgrounds aren't Satan. Last point. When they start arresting and incarcerating the transients, will you see the same chaotic marches and protests that you saw against ice? You know that if it was a Republican operation, you would. But this is going to be hard for Dems. Are you going to. Are you going to protest against Democrats for taking away the rights of free living, houseless people just seeking a better life?

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah. And the thing is, if it works, then what do you got to complain about? They've got. So it's going to be a lot of cognitive dissonance. Martha, you and I have talked about the Carter of despair, which is 8th Avenue in New York City, Central New York City. You walk down there one day, you and I were talking.

[Martha MacCallum]

It's one of Dante's circles of hell.

[Paul Morrow]

You were like, I can't believe what I saw today. I mean, New York City could learn here, right? What do you see in the city?

[Martha MacCallum]

I mean, I actually, I would say, you know, I asked people to go walk from, like, 49th street to what authority? Depends, basically. But I don't really want you to do that because I don't really think it's a safe.

[Paul Morrow]

I need a Sherman tank.

[Martha MacCallum]

But my question is, you know, we had. I lost track of the number, sadly. But I think there were at least 20 homeless people who froze to death in New York City.

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah, we're up there. Yeah.

[Martha MacCallum]

And Mehrmandani said, you know, had argued that you. You can't force people off the streets into shelters, that it's not humane or compassionate to force them to move so that they don't die. So I don't know, to Greg's point, like, I don't know what their definition is of compassion, but if that's a person that is in my family who has gone down the wrong road, I would love for someone to pick them up and get them someplace warm so they don't starve, so they don't freeze to death. But how is this San Francisco mayor getting rid of the people on the streets? Where are they going? Because a lot of times people don't want to go anywhere.

[Paul Morrow]

So that actually is the devil in the details here. Because, Jesse, it's not entirely carceral. They can leave, but if they leave while they're still all hammered up from drugs or drunks drink, whatever it is, they can then be rearrested, which you know is not going to happen. The piece that's missing in my eyes here is the fact that we got you because they are arrested, but now we can hold you. I just want to see how this works out on the ground. Doesn't it always slip a little?

[Jesse Watters]

It makes it annoying. If you're trying to shoot up and a cop keeps taking you out and taking you off to a place over and over again, you're going to go somewhere else or maybe you'll stop shooting up. You're not right about San Francisco. O'Reilly was just there for the Super Bowl. He says it's beautiful and then you go outside and it's like Calcutta Clay. Travis was just there for the Super Bowl. He said he had to walk across 16 needles to get.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You listen to party McAfee talking about it. So conservative too. You didn't listen to the guy who basically anchored the super bowl talking about it.

[Jesse Watters]

I didn't hear that. And I'm going to go with the two guys I cited, no offense to Pat. Trump had called for this, arresting open air drug users and putting them into treatment facilities. You guys would be calling him Hitler. You'd be calling him Hitler anyway. And I love the fact that a Democrat did it cuz he gives the media permission to just chill and say thank God. Because if you love a city, if you love the people in your city, you don't let them destroy the city. Greg makes this point all the time. If you lived in a neighborhood and this was your block, you would never let your block decay into a drug infested hellhole. But for some reason it's okay for a politician to do it. They're dumb because they have political capital. They have people who voted for them and have given them all this power and they. What do they do with their power? They just redistribute the cash to their cronies and let their city suffer. And now it stops. If this can happen in San Francisco, it can happen anywhere. I love this.

[Paul Morrow]

Yeah, I do. I hope it works, man, because we're losing our cities. And I love our. I'm a city guy. I love our cities. And we've lost them. We gotta get them back. And San Francisco's a great town. You know it very well.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Just do your heroin indoors. That's all we're asking.

[Jesse Watters]

That's all we're asking.

[Paul Morrow]

You're always telling me That I don't know what. All right, coming up, you're gonna wanna pay attention to this. Susan Rice just gave away the game on the Democrats revenge plan if they win back power. Coming up.

[Martha MacCallum]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jesse Watters]

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[Paul Morrow]

You shut your mouth.

[Jesse Watters]

Democrats are out for blood. Former Obama lackey Susan Rice making it clear they want scalps. If the Democrats take back power in the midterms.

[Paul Morrow]

Watch.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's not going to end well for them. They're going to be caught with more than their pants down. They're going to be held accountable. If these corporations think that the Democrats when they come back in power are going to, you know, play by the old rules, I think they've got another thing coming.

[Jesse Watters]

Greg, what do you think Susan Rice means when she says they're going to be caught with more than their pants down?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't know. I made a quick call to Jeffrey Toobin. He didn't pick up. Yeah, she made what jumps out is corporations. You know, corporations are Americans. These are people. And so what she's saying is will destroy you when we come back unless you are obedient to us and do not play along. It's a very anti American thing and but I was wondering, what could she do to you that they already haven't done? I mean, target you for arrest? They do that anyway. They're going to call you a Nazi or a racist. We've been down that path. How about illegal FISA warrants, a fictional dossier? What can they do? Could they bury intelligence? Can they target Republican organizations? They did 92 and they got zero convictions. Alvin Bragg could come up with some novel legal theory. Fani Willis could do whatever Fani Willis did that doesn't involve an affair. What about the 51 intel officials? There's so many things that they can do that they've already done. The threat means nothing to us. I think that's what Trump help imbued Republicans in general as we're no longer scared. These are very angry people, though they use the word accountability and they're holding us accountable for holding them accountable. They're mad at Trump for turning on the lights. Because what we found when we turn on the lights, millions of illegals, billions, perhaps a trillion in fraud, the whole trans delusion, that was insane. So their accountability, what they're basically saying is, we want to turn out the lights and if you turn them on, we're coming for you.

[Jesse Watters]

What do you think she has in store? What could Congress do to people who maybe got rid of dei, Martha?

[Martha MacCallum]

Well, I think that's exactly one of the big problems, right? I mean, you see all the banks now saying, you know, we're not going to use DEI when we choose our board members. We're going to actually do it based on merit and people who we think can help the bottom line and help shareholders make more money, because that's what boards are supposed to do. I think that, you know, after, especially after, I think George Floyd, there was like a, almost there was this bullying effort to say, like, what? You haven't put out a statement yet. Yeah, company abc. Why didn't you put out your statement? Do you support Black Lives Matter? And then we saw what happened with Black Lives Matter. And then, you know, these corporations got to a point where they were like, you know what? I think we better get back to, you know, doing our business and making sure that we are creating jobs, creating income. That's what we're supposed to do. That's a mission of a business. And they found that they don't have these folks wrapped around their finger anymore and they don't like it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They still were doing it, though, with ice. They were trying to intimidate businesses to put up little ICE signs.

[Jesse Watters]

Right.

[Paul Morrow]

And they might.

[Martha MacCallum]

I don't think they did.

[Jesse Watters]

I don't think hauling ICE agents into Congress. Jessica, we're on a retribution tour. Can you at least let us finish?

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, I think that you should end early. Okay, take, take the L, as Donald Trump should on the tariffs. Obviously, the outrage over this is completely fake. Like, anyone who supports Donald Trump, who has been on a revenge tour, even won in 2016 and was still mad about everything since he's been back in office, he's been going against his political enemies. You know, Comey Chish, James John Bolton, obviously the seditious six. I mean, he's had some really embarrassing defeats because he can't get a decent prosecutor to do anything with them. And grand juries are like, well, this isn't a real case. I'm not going to indict those folks. But I know that it's all fake outrage. I will say, a story that did not get any coverage because there's just so much going on, was Donald Trump, who's been putting, you know, his face on all of the bureaucracy buildings around D.C. and he put his face also on the DOJ, which is supposed to be impartial. And you remember, you were so upset about when Bill Clinton ran into Loretta lynch or anything that Democrats did in the past. And I know you guys would be very unhappy if a tan suit upset you. If Barack Obama's face.

[Greg Gutfeld]

A tan suit never upset us.

[Jesse Watters]

That was a joke.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Although I actually did it. We imaged Obama onto the doj. You guys would be happy with that?

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, but you know what you guys did? You guys went pretty far with every kind of flag imaginable. That wasn't the American flag.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Oh, my God. To put up with that flag and Donald Trump's face on the doj, saying Pam Bondi reports just to me only and will do my bidding personally and doesn't care about the Constitution or the law. Any of that is the same as having a pride flag on an embassy.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay, well, you guys arrested like every Republican.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Why are you in jail, then?

[Jesse Watters]

Because I'm smart. Okay, Paul.

[Paul Morrow]

All right, look, first of all, in any federal building, you put the president and the vice president up. That's just how it works like this, Paul, in the office. And when Donald Trump won 2016, I was still working, and there was this surprising delay in Donald Trump's picture going up in place of Barack Obama. I wonder why. That said, I agree that this is a whole lot of nothing. But you know what? If this is something, then realistically, you could play the same game. You're going to come after us, Susan Rice. So by that same metric, we can come after you. Right? Because that. That's the game that you're playing. You put it right out there. So if this is substantive, if she has something, if she's in touch with people who are gearing this up, then you know what? You hit first and you hit harder. I'm not advocating that. I think this is nonsensical. But I will say this. She set herself up because if what she's talking about comes to pass and corporations are in any way, shape or form supposedly held to account, which is what she's saying, relative to whatever it is she's talking about, DEI or something, she didn't get very specific. But whatever she's talking about, well, there's your answer, right? Did she put it out there? It's the dumbest thing you could do. So you said on tape, on the, you know, went to national news that you were going to do this. So I'll see you in court and she's going to lose. It was very stupid. And she was in charge of something. This person. Not. Not a good move.

[Jesse Watters]

All right, I agree. We should arrest Susan Rice. Well said, Paul. The fastest is up.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yes. Look at me. Welcome back. A new career opportunity for Jesse and Greg. Fox is bringing back Baywatch. You guys look cute.

[Martha MacCallum]

Week.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Thousands of red swimsuit dreamers flooding a California beach for Fox's Baywatch reboot. Casting call. All trying to slow mo jog their way to fame. Jesse, did you try out?

[Jesse Watters]

No, but I was obsessed with this show. It was the closest thing to porn you could watch when we were growing up.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Your mom would be like, it's cool. It's just right.

[Jesse Watters]

I was always watching Baywatch on Saturday.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Mom.

[Jesse Watters]

But like, yeah, her. Pam. When you were a teenager, like, to see her in a bathing suit was a big deal. And so a lot of people have very fond memories of Baywatch and if they want to do a reboot, I think a lot of young men would be fine with it. Carmen Electra. Do you remember Carmen Electra? Yeah, yeah. She was big on this show. I was more of a Hasselhoff guy, more my type. But no, this was a good show.

[Martha MacCallum]

I forgot about the people who were on the show. And then you showed the picture last night, and I was like, oh, that's Jasmine Bleeth. Like, I just saw her yesterday, but I haven't thought about her in a lot. Long time, I think, you know, now Instagram is just all bathing suits all the time. So I don't know.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I do like that full pieces are fashionable.

[Martha MacCallum]

Yeah.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Like Baywatch has.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay.

[Martha MacCallum]

You know, that's a good thing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Have you seen any of these people lately?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Anyway, you know what? This is the final nail in the coffin of body positivity. You know, we want hot bodies. We don't want tattooed jugs of flesh under a blue wig. It's over. And. And with Ozempic, it's time for Baywatch the vil. There are some lean ladies over 50. You know, the only issue is tattoos. You know, if you look like. If you look at the Baywatch crew of the 90s, what? There are no tattoos. But everybody has tattoos now. What are they going to do? Are they going to let that happen? I would like to have a role in this. I would like to be the captain Don Thorpe. Do you remember him? He was played by Monty Markham, aka the $7 million man. I would like to be. Because they're gonna need an old, grizzled lifeguard, and that's Me. And I can act. I'm acting right now.

[Paul Morrow]

Let you play the homeless guy on the beach.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I would do that.

[Paul Morrow]

All right. I have absolutely no recollection of any of these people. I must have been a coma in the 90s. My access point to this show is Borat. Remember in Borat? He's, like, in love with this thing. All I can say is that this is a Fox production. At least none of them will be trans. All right. It's gonna be actual jiggle stuff. So, you know, jiggle stuff.

[Martha MacCallum]

Jiggle stuff.

[Paul Morrow]

Okay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Right. Stuff will be jiggling.

[Jessica Tarlov]

AML Friday is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Fan mail Friday. First question from Lenny. What is something you enjoy today that you should have outgrown years ago? Martha? What if you should have outgrown, what should I have outgrown you were just talking about something.

[Martha MacCallum]

But I. Well, I have a lot of, like, Olympic wear right now. Like, I, you know, have, like, an Olympic. Like, a ski hat and, like, the sweatpants and everything. So you dress probably like. Yeah, like, dressing like a teenager.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Dressing like a teenager.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You dress like a meth dealer. What about you, Jesse?

[Jesse Watters]

I was on the plane the other day, and Gigi had a little. Those boxes of Lucky Charms, and I took it, and I ate all the marshmallows out of the lunch.

[Martha MacCallum]

The best.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, he must have been crying.

[Paul Morrow]

Never gets old.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You're a terrible father.

[Jesse Watters]

Heard that before.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I guess similar to Martha. So I love hello Kitty, and I have a ton of hello Kitty themed clothes. And I have these great high tops where hello Kitty is, like, the top

[Martha MacCallum]

part of the high top.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And I wore them, like, three days ago.

[Jesse Watters]

Such a liberal thing to do.

[Martha MacCallum]

Hello.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Hideous for everybody.

[Jesse Watters]

No, it's terrible.

[Paul Morrow]

Comic book art I like. I still. When I see the art, I don't read the comics, but I actually have gone to Comic Con because I got free tickets and I wandered around there for hours, and it was really something to see after they took me back to my youth. And those people are underrated as artists. I said it here.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I. You know, I'm like, I. I should have outgrown drawing boobs.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, look.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I mean, I still draw boobs.

[Paul Morrow]

Look at that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What's wrong with me? That's something I should have stopped when I was 40. All right, I have time for one more. What would an amusement park filled with your biggest fear be like? I'll go with you, Jesse. Don't say black people.

[Paul Morrow]

You read my mind.

[Jesse Watters]

So, you know those, like, ball pits instead of the balls. It was just Rats. I hate rats.

[Paul Morrow]

I hate rats, too.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Seafood that I have to eat. I don't eat seafood. And whenever someone's like, oh, just have like a shrimp, I'm very upset.

[Paul Morrow]

Anything that happens at 6am.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's a great idea for theme parks. It's different times of the day. I'm going to 3am park at 2:50.

[Paul Morrow]

It's the Dana Perino.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm gonna say, for me, it would be an amusement park of puddles, of unknown depth.

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It scares me when I leave. You never know what can happen when you're short.

[Martha MacCallum]

You think you can jump over it?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I walk in it.

[Martha MacCallum]

Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't like socks soaked. Oh, my God. What about you?

[Martha MacCallum]

Well, he reminded me of ball pits. Because, like, I don't like those ball pit things. I think they're full of germs. And, like, if you made me go into a ball pit, that would be terrible. And if there were snakes, like rats or snakes?

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, a snake pit. Yeah. I'll take a ball pit over a snake pit.

[Martha MacCallum]

If I had to choose, I would chew.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, one More Thing's up next.

[Martha MacCallum]

Time now for one more Thing. We'll start with you, Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, we have a fantastic show tonight. Martha Kennedy, John Taffer, Sir Rod Small, Emily Campagno. That's tonight at 10pm let's do this. Prairie Dog News with Brit Hume. Roll the tape. Roll.

[Paul Morrow]

Oh, boy.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. These are. Martha, I don't know if you know this, but this is a mock moment where I talk about the Prayer Dolls, the Bergen County Zoo. They found love in the sun. Kissing and embracing, a behavior often noted as Greek kisses or nuzzling. I love a good nuzzle. Hugging, sniffing, touching, grinding your teeth together. It helps strengthen group connections, which is what the Republicans need to do to win back the midterms.

[Paul Morrow]

Who needs Baywatch, right?

[Jesse Watters]

Let's go around the world. Martha, come on with me. Let's go for a ride. We're Lithuania, Greg. That's a country in Europe. They're celebrating Shrovetide. Folks gather in the village of Rumseskis wearing traditional masks and larger than life costumes. It marks Lenten season. Music, dancing. Also, they burn something in effigy that signals the end of winter. But we should burn something here because I am sick of the snow. Speaking of snow, tonight, the White House cocaine story is percolating. Eight o'.

[Paul Morrow]

Clock.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Cocaine from Biden's White House.

[Jesse Watters]

Joe Biden's White House.

[Martha MacCallum]

Where was it? Jesse knows. Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right. Fat Tuesday is coming up and people in London are flipping out for National Pancake Day as they dress up in costumes to compete in the annual pancake flipping competition. Over 100 people. I thought it was going to be more than this.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Over 100.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Just say it's a million people entered the race. Also, weirdly, the pancakes are gluten free, which surprised me.

[Paul Morrow]

Of course they are.

[Martha MacCallum]

All right, more people wearing costumes, running around Europe.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's a theme of the five.

[Martha MacCallum]

Yeah, it's a big theme tonight. So mine is this guy, this UPS driver who got chased by turkeys. Watch this.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What is going on?

[Martha MacCallum]

I mean, it's so silly, right? And so I looked up. What do you do if turkeys are chasing you? I don't think this man was in any danger. I mean, he was in no danger. And it said, maintain eye contact. This is the instructions with the turkey. Make yourself look larger, like you're supposed to with a bear. And use an umbrella or a bag or a coat as a barrier. And never feed the turkeys.

[Jesse Watters]

Never feed her.

[Paul Morrow]

It's a good idea. Oh, okay. All right. So I want to congratulate the USA Women's Olympic Hockey team. Look at this. What a move, Bob. Oh, look at that. She undressed that Canadian player. She's the defenseman, too. Her name is Megan Kelly. She actually is defense. She freed herself up, caught that at the blue line and goodbye and flips it right past the goalie between her and Alyssa Lude. Women had a great day at the Olympics. They made us all very proud. And they all stood together and sang the national anthem. A great moment. Congrats to them. It was outstanding.

[Jesse Watters]

That was a nice one, Jessica.

[Martha MacCallum]

Yeah, Congratulations.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I hope you're proud.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Martha MacCallum]

All right.

[Paul Morrow]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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