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Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Waters, along with Kennedy, Harold Ford Jr. Jillian Turner, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five. The lab results are in. And TDS is the leading cause of political breakups in America. New research showing Americans are dumping loved ones over politics at an alarming rate. More than a third say they've lost a friend, family member, or even a partner over politics, with 66% of Democrats saying they're the ones doing the dumping, compared to just 27% of Republicans. And it's no wonder when you hear the vitriol liberals are marinating in all day.
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The Republicans lie about being loving America and being patriotic.
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They lie that they're good with the economy. They lie that they support the troops
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and they're about national security. They don't.
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There's a solid 32% of the public
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that's out there that are mental, bro. They are deranged. They are demented. They have lost their minds, and they actively want pain and hurt and devastation
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and they want evil. That's not all. Longtime TDS sufferer Mark Hamill posting on Blue sky. This disgusting image of President Trump in a grave. The White House calling the washed up Star wars actor a, quote, sick individual. He has since deleted the post and says this quote, actually, I was wishing him the opposite of dead. But apologize if you found the image inappropriate. And the left's new rising star is doing his best to add to the division. The Nazi tatted guy who wants to be the next senator from Maine? Graham Platner. Calling Republicans fascists.
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We have multiple paths in front of us.
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One of them is very clear. That is the path of fascism. It is the path of bigotry and
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hatred, of racism and xenophobia.
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That is not an option.
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This kind of reminds me, Greg, yesterday, what you were talking about with Jessica. Why do you care if I like Donald Trump?
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I mean. Well, first, like, Hamill's image would be meaningless if you didn't have such a connection between rhetoric and action on the left wing side. If they didn't act on this stuff would be just another inflammatory thing. We all do that, but unfortunately, they lead the league in violent political acts. It's funny, in politics, there are two things. There's the message and there's the package. Trump happens to be both together. What you see is what you get with Democrats. They've always had to kind of like, find a package to hide the message. Joe Biden, you know, old statesman, old white guy, hide the radicalism with Platner, it's really hard. The packaging with him is the message. I mean, what has he said that mirrors the modern progressive? He said he was a super antifa, super soldier soldier. He has advocated for political violence, get a gun, and he says Hamas are heroic fighters. It is. The reason why they don't care about the Nazi thing is because they like the other stuff. So that's totally fragment. You know, the difference between Dems and Republicans come down to one thing. They apply moral value to political preference. And that would make sense if your political party praised Hitler or protected murderers and sex fiends. But the mistake is it's not the Republicans. But they've always compared Republicans to some kind of existential threat. They've done it with climate change, done it with compassion, they do it with Trump. That allows them to label us as amoral. But we know, and Harold would agree, Republicans are not evil. We have a different path to the pursuit of happiness and serenity in people's lives, safety and security. I don't care that you hate Trump. Why should you care that I like him? The answer would be because he's evil. He's like a Nazi. Well, this is where the whole thing falls apart. What does that mean to me if I'm your Republican friend who voted for Trump, that you would believe I would support a Nazi? We've been friends for years. I've been through this. If you're my friend, you have to realize that's illogical. Cuz how are we friends for 10 or 20 years and now you found out I was a fascist? How did that happen? You knew I was a right winger in the 80s, in the 90s, and now all of a sudden you're like, oh, I can't be seen with him. So the key moment in the self realization of a liberal should be if your dad loves Trump and you love your dad, shouldn't you maybe question whether your dad doesn't love a Hitler figure and therefore maybe Trump is not a Hitler figure? And that flaw in your thinking should put into question the reliability on your filter, on your life that this thing is not working. It's not translating. If I love my dad and my dad voted for Trump, but I think Trump is Hitler, there's something wrong with my logic. Your dad is not a Nazi lover. This is why they break off relationships. Because when they run into those people that they like and they love, it calls into question that filter.
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And you're asking a lot of them to use logic because. Because they're not obviously Using it. They're using emotion. And Trump, for some reason makes them so emotional they're breaking up marriages. Gillian.
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Well, to be frank, Jesse. Well, first of all, I would like to say before I start my answer that I would be okay with never seeing Graham Platner's nipple in close up ever again. It has been enough times for me personally. It's not the romantic relationships that actually surprised me about this, it's the friendships. Like, the friendships are very important, but the threshold for tolerance is much lower. You don't have to live with the person, you don't have to be in love with them, you don't have to marry them. Like you just have to go to lunch sometimes and like talk on the phone or you know, whatever guys do. You have to golf with them, right?
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People still talk on the phone.
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It's a lot easier to tolerate somebody with a different point of view if you're not like spending 24 hours a day with them raising children.
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But it's also easier to cut them off if you have. If there's low investment in that person. That's why we don't talk.
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B
That's just what I told you. But also there's this, Jesse, there is this troubling part to this trend, like on the other side, which is that once these breakups are happening, things are actually getting worse and more divided and people hate each other even more. I found this from the. What is it called? It's called the National. National Academy of Sciences. They say this people who experience political breakups held more hostile and distorted views of the other side, rating opposing voters nearly 8 points colder on 100 point scale and significantly overestimating how extreme opponents beliefs actually are. Maybe that answers your question.
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Actually, I answered.
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When you end a relationship and then suddenly all these people think that you're fascist who used to. Mm. It's cause they've broken up with you that they feel that way.
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Right. But it's an avoidance.
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B
It's like they then hate you.
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Yeah, I'm used to it.
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The, you know, the party's also always talking, Harold, about unity. We have to come together, we have to have a conversation. And they're like cutting tons of people out of their lives.
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Well, it's good to be with you. I think that a couple of things. I married. When I married my wife, she was a Republican. She's since become more of a Democrat and I've learned some of her ways as well.
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Her family.
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Why would you register her family? No, she's not. She was just an Independent, but, I mean, her family was Republican.
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Is she okay with you sharing this personal information?
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Of course she is. The point is this. We have strayed so far from being able to have serious political conversations. And if people want to be friends or don't want to be friends, it's whatever. It doesn't bother me. But you got to be willing to work together if you're in public life to solve people's problems. I separated. People who are in public service have to work together, but they're a reflection of society. The most successful liberal in the Senate of the last hundred years was a guy named Teddy Kennedy. The late Teddy Kennedy. He was also probably the most successful legislator. His best friend in the United States Senate was a guy from Utah named Orrin Hatch. Now, if you put them on paper and you ask AI when they got to the Senate, can these guys be close? AI would say, no way, because one's a Mormon, the other is a Catholic from Massachusetts. One's a raging liberal, the other's a raging conservative. They actually worked incredibly well together. Unfortunately, today, our politics is almost like an SNL skit. You listen to people talk about the other, even including the President. The President, people he thinks are not smart, low iq, and some of the other things that he says and some of the things that Democrats. These ridiculous comments.
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What's wrong with that comment?
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I just don't think it. First of all, you want to work with someone who's constantly calling you low iq.
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What if they call him racist or fascist or Hitler?
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I'm saying it goes both ways.
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Well, low IQ is a lot different than a Nazi.
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D
He called Hakeem Jeffries a thug over the week. Look, we could get that. We can go down the list. If you guys want to litigate it that way, it's fine. My only point is. You're making my point. It's that no one is serious about working together. All anyone wants to do is say, the other side does it so I can do it, or they're doing it so it's okay for me to do it. Democrats do it poorly and badly and aggressively. I don't disagree with you, Greg. But if we're going to get to a point where we're going to pass legislation and do things that are meaningful and lasting, it has to be across the aisle. The Voting Rights act. In this country, it was Democrats and Republicans that supported it. The Civil Rights Act. In this country, it was Democrats and Republicans that supported it. The Interstate highway act, it was Democrats and Republicans that supported it. We don't do that any longer. Obamacare passed only with Democrats. President Trump passes his reconciliation bill only with Republicans. And I fear, and I said it before, there's a rot in our culture. And if we continue to let it fester, we're going to continue to get bad ideas, unserious people and outcomes that don't work for the long term. That to me is the great fear of all of this divisiveness and all this division. You can blame Democrats and I could blame Republicans, but that's.
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I think you're missing the fear is more violence, but that's not coming from us.
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D
But Greg, it has. Over the hundred, the 250 years of our country, violence has come from both sides. Is it coming more today? Is it coming? It has all. You gotta look at the history. I'm not making it up.
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E
If you want to say, what's the other side? What have we. You're gonna talk about abortion bombings. That's a compliment because it's been like 40 years.
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Great.
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We can talk about a number of things. My only point is this. We can't survive our politics, our culture, and now to Jillian's. But relationships, friendships are now about it. We have a prayer group every morning. We, we, if. Can you imagine if we let our politics get in the way of our faith and the things that we know are bigger and better and stronger than about us, though.
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I'm talking about people who commit acts of violence based on rhetoric. This is our prayer group. Ain't gonna help them.
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It will. Let's get Kennedy and do we need to go back to drinking in the Capitol? That's where they did a lot of bipartisan stuff, just like Orn Hatch Drive.
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Many, plenty of people drink in the Capitol.
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We got.
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We got.
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Yeah, we would be lightening it up if we went back to drinking in the Capitol. That would be easing off the gas for sure. And that's fine. But I do talk to people in Congress and they always tell me that one of the first points they want to make is they do craft legislation with Democrats or Republicans, you know, people from the other side, but they can't get it through committee. You know, they can't get it on the docket. They can't, they can't get their legislation voted on. But I do think there are more good intentions and we focus on. It just doesn't get attention. It doesn't get any clicks. People aren't going to tune in to Jennifer Welch's podcast if she goes, yeah, I've got a Republican neighbor who's very patriotic and loves this country. You know, it's like people would tune out, she has to say something absolutely bat poop crazy in order to get any engagement at all. And unfortunately, that is what is driving the message in our culture. Those are the messengers. And, you know, we've gotten away from the things that truly bind us together, the things that we do talk about amongst each other on the break. You know, we talk about our kids, we talk about our travels, we talk about these binding aspects of our being. And I have a lovely conversation with Bret Baier that's gonna post tomorrow on Kennedy Saves the World, my award winning podcast. Soon it will win awards, I'm quite sure. And we talked about there is more that binds us together, but unfortunately it doesn't pay the bills, it doesn't sell. And it's so much easier for your friends to get in your ear and go, man, you should ditch that guy. You know, he voted for Trump. That means that in his soul he's a bad person. You should probably divorce him. And people give in to that sort of social pressure because we've never felt that sort of force in our lives. And there are two generations of younger Americans who are being brought up on that, where that is completely normal and everything is totally distorted.
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I differ. I still think people want more problem solvers. I know you do, too. And I think if we don't start doing more of it, we're going to, we're going to get closer.
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Run for president.
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Yeah.
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Harold, Nobody is leading. Nobody is leading.
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More binding.
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Yes. Like bulk fiber.
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Well, I didn't mean that kind of binding.
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B
What kind of binding did you mean?
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We. Now we have to go to break. Coming up next, Spencer Pratt, shoving liberal failures right in the face of the Democrats who pushed them.
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Welcome back. The battle to be L. A. S mayor ramped up a whole lot last night. It was the first televised debate ahead of a primary that is taking place next month. Former reality TV star Spencer Pratt, you may have heard of him. He wasted no time hammering current Mayor Karen Bass and Democratic socialist Councilwoman Nithya Rahman, as he called out their handling of everything from the L. A Wildfires to the city's rampant homelessness and drug crisis. Also did a little bit of detailing.
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Statistics says 93% of this is a drug addiction problem. Nith Councilwoman Robin's plan for treatment. First, I will go below the Harbor Freeway tomorrow with her and we can find some of these people she's going to offer treatment for. She's going to get stabbed in the neck. These people do not want a bed. They want fentanyl or super meth. My job is to be as crazy as this will sound. I'm the adult in the room here at Spencer Pratt. And that's what it's. That's what it's come to.
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This is a MAGA Republicans idea of
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what Los Angeles looks like.
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This is. This is really not.
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She doesn't care about safety. She doesn't care about anything she's talking about. At least Mayor Bass pretends to care. Both of these people have been the reason why there's no more Hollywood.
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Well, his whole vibe, obviously, if you watch that debate, from the way he talked to the way he acted, is he's very Trumpian. And so I'm sure he's going to do very well with, you know, conservatives in his city. But, Jesse, there's not really enough of them to elect him realistically.
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Let's keep hope alive.
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Wow, your donkey stripes are showing that, Jillian.
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Yeah, that was quite a setup.
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Well, I'm just not Trumpian.
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He's not Trumpy. He speaks on his feet, catch fire, believes what he says.
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It wasn't a ding. I was just saying his style is very Trumpian.
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Jillian, welcome to the podcast. Nobody knows what Spencer Pratt is going through. You just watched your city burn to the ground and you have a foreign born socialist and a Karen telling you everything's fine. And then you say you're a liar. And some other woman comes over and says, stop the name calling. This is what we're dealing with, okay? This is what this country is dealing with. We have had it. We've had it with the politicians. So you get this charismatic, common sense populist with the reality TV background, and he comes in and he just shoots from the hip. And you can kind of see his blood boiling because he's face to face with these politicians who burned his house down and destroyed his city. And so. And the one woman, Karen Bass, is like, you know what? We did a great job with the fire. Are you kidding me? It's like Biden said, the border's secure. And then you have this ramen, rhymes with noodle, whatever her name is. She's like, yeah, we should put homeless encampments next to daycare. I'm surprised he didn't get up and say what Trump did. You people are all crazy. I don't even think these two women even go out in the city. What do they do, Go to city hall and then back to their homes? They have no idea there's a Homeless problem. They have no idea. The cost of living is crazy. 34 homes have been built in the Palisades since the fire. It's absolute insanity. And if you think either of these two women, especially Bass, is going to run this town when they have the Olympics. Hand Bass a torch for the Olympic ceremony. Watch her burn the rest of the place down.
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But so were you Team Spidey or Team lc?
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Is this a Hills joke?
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It is.
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It's a Hills reference. Everybody's got an answer.
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I don't know. Are they both blonde?
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Jillian, it was an iconic show. I know you didn't watch it.
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Feels like the View.
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You missed out, Harold. You know, aside from the wildfires, which is the rallying cry now for a lot of politicians in California, he's basically. His platform essentially boils down to he's like anti crime, pro cop and getting drugs and crime off the streets. It's like kind of hard to disagree with that.
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You can't. You really can't. I mean, the California dream isn't what it used to be. And I think if the young man was very performative, he obviously has a great background in acting. I didn't know. I don't know the shows. And I thought his substance was about right. He reminded me of a former politician out of Minnesota named Jesse the Body Ventura who came along as an independent and upended the political system. Even out there in California and la, you had Dick Reardon, the former mayor, who came from the outside, a very wealthy business guy, but came from the outside to try to shake things up. This guy would have, I think, a better shot if he wasn't so performative and actually said, here's what I'm going to do. To Jesse's point, some of the things were being said, at least some of the things were quoted in our packet. I just said, you guys are wrong. We've tried that way. Here's what I want to do, and here I'm going to be giving advice to this fellow. But people want representation, people want reform, people want crime dealt with. People want their neighborhoods to be safe, not only from crime, but from fires. And if you can make that case in la, I differ with you slightly, Julian. I think anyone could win if you're able, if you make a compelling enough case about whether you're the incumbent or not, about what you're going to do to improve people's lives. There's still basics in politics and that's one of them.
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B
Jesse just gave me a look that was like, see?
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D
I did. Welcome to the pie.
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I did give you a look, Kennedy. People out there, out west in la, they do love, you know, a former, a conservative, former Hollywood star.
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You know what they love? They love going home. And thousands and thousands of them still can't because of these policies, because they watched a place that they love burned to the ground. And the person who was responsible for that with her failing policies, she stood on that stage and said, things are great. Well, things are not great if your insurance company has dropped you, if you no longer have a rent stipend. So you can't send your kids to school. Can't send them to half the schools in the Palisades because they burned down the one school that is functioning. They just threw a bunch of trailers on the footprint there. So, you know, and I give Spencer Pratt credit because he wasn't only shocked into career and politics, and I hope he wins. He's actually made a lot of ground in the last few weeks because of his campaign ads. And I think that will be compounded by his performance on the debate stage last night because he really showed some true vulnerability in, you know, the two horrible towers, the twin towers of LA politics. You have the establishment Democrats like Karen Bass, who has failed upward through the state over the decades, and then you have the me, me, me progressives like Nithya Rahman, who, you know, all she wants to do is tax more and create more cronyism and more corruption in la. People have had enough of it. They can't businesses, they can't afford the taxes. And the ones who don't have a lot of money, they have nowhere to go. And you know, the places that are still standing, mark my words, they are perfectly capable of burning down. And politicians like those two women on that stage will turn their backs on you because all they're looking out for is themselves, their own political futures. They do not care about people. And I hope so. Spencer Pratt continues pushing because he and I don't believe the polling right now, but he will continue to make headway in this race.
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B
Greg, you always talk about how you were a Hill super fan. What do you think about Spencer Pratt running?
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Well, I mean, things were pretty cool until he called the police on me and then now I'm not even near his house now that his house is burned down. I'm not near his trailer. No, I've never watched his show, but I always like somebody who doesn't have to keep track of their lies. This is why when he was on there, he could answer any question. He didn't have to Think about what he said a week before. And he has offered specifics on the hiring of police officers and firefighters and also dealing with fire management. It's just that those aren't the most exciting clips.
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What did he say? He said he wanted to hire more.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Over 10. He had a 10 year plan. But I'm not gonna get into it. I'm not gonna be deflected by your silly questions, Harold. That's silly substance, but I agree with you. This wasn't left versus right. This was outsider versus the system. And the outsider here represents the people of California. That Spencer Pratt. The system is being represented by these rent seekers that are essentially acting as parasites. You look at these major problems like homelessness and fire management, government waste, these are all solvable. People actually do have answers. Really smart people have answers. But you can't solve them because if you solve them, then the rent seekers lose their careers. Careers and their income. The system is not there to solve problems. It's to preserve them at a level that we can kind of survive. But they get the money through the bureaucratic corruption. You know, three years ago, we assumed the border was lost. Trump, you know, comes in in two weeks, it's solved. We know these problems are solvable. They won't solve them. The other thing about when you see these two crazies on the, on the stage, it's like you look at these Democrat candidates and you go, why do they suck? But the real question is, what's left? All the really interesting people have either gone or they won't enter because the party's too toxic. Harold, you're not gonna run because the party's too toxic for you. So what's left? Those two people, they can't go anywhere else. This is what happens when the normal people leave. The extreme just gets more and more concentrated. They can't find another job. And nobody's talking about those two on social media, not on. No way. They're talking about Spencer Pratt. I am 100% behind that guy because I can tell that he is speaking the truth and from his heart. And you don't see that very often. And he should destroy this system.
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But what Julian is right about is that when they say he's a MAGA guy, that's not gonna help him in Los Angeles. And I think that's the.
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That's why she said it.
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He's running as an independent, he's not running as a Republican.
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I said it.
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I just meant it.
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B
I just meant it, like, stylistically right.
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D
But he, he Also identifies with President Trump.
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B
Yeah, he does. He is a magazine.
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We get what both of you are trying to do, and it's not gonna work.
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B
But also, and Harold knows to me every day. Harold knows this better than any of us. But also, like, progressives have great luck with getting running on a single issue that personally impacted them that then galvanizes them to politics. So, like, this is interesting to see a conservative doing the same thing now. All right, we gotta go. Coming up, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is playing the race card again. This amid new scrutin about her state's massive feeding our future scam. We're gonna get into that next.
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Hell, brother. Radical Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is in the spotlight again. The Minnesota representative is refusing to turn over records tied to the massive fraud investigation rocking her state. This after billions in taxpayer dollars went up in smoke. She was also at a town hall last night downplaying the feed our future corruption that's been bilking Minnesota taxpayers for $9 billion and dismissing critics as racist.
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Watch.
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B
So nothing is even remotely close to the narrative that they have about Somalis, our origins on how we got here, or even our numbers, which is always fascinating. Fascinating to me. So it's more straight racism than anything personal.
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E
It really, truly is.
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B
Yeah. So they learned the hard way that they were wasting lots of federal resources going after a ghost that really wasn't actually there. That was only of their creation.
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C
Well, now they're just ghostbusters. Greg, the chubby white lady was nodding along there.
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It's racism. I'm telling you, it's racism. Did I get all my virtue points? Meanwhile, the guy behind her is like, is this what I have to do?
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Until I fill out that my parole
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sheet, I don't know what I'm doing here. This is the best. She doesn't even answer any of the questions. A simple question. Who's protecting her? Why are they protecting her? She married her sibling. She's an alleged fraudster. She's implicated in a ton of cases. I just want her to remove the headscarf and see if she has a Nazi symbol on it, because that would be the trifecta. But if she's had to testify on her own behalf, what can we do? I wish we had a lawyer here that could tell me what we can do. Can she be arrested? How hard is this? If she Mafia bosses went away for less, she's the perfect example of a trickster who exploited the system, paralyzed by identity politics. That's why when she's being implicated, all this she's calm, cool, and collected. She thinks she's gonna get off.
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B
Yeah, But Greg, that nice kid sitting there on the back, he's just a high school student.
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E
How do you know?
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B
Because that was. She was speaking to a high school class.
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E
How do you know?
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C
That's nice. I mean, at least that gets us out of a little bit of hot water. Jillian, she's still in hot water because when she got to Congress, she was worth $55,000. And then it ballooned to 30 million. Up to 30 million, because there is a range that congresspeople can be worth. They don't have to list exact net worth. And that magically went away. What happened to that? $30 million?
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B
Hill jobs notoriously pay really well. So that's what happened there.
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C
Especially when your husband, not your brother, is your campaign.
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B
And this. She said some pretty upsetting things, but in this clip, she was defending Somalian Americans, which is fine, in my opinion. Where this goes wrong is when she starts obviously defending the fraud, which is, you know, people were saying, she said that this was the ghost that was not there, going after a ghost that was not there. That was the fraud. It was very much not a ghost. It was $9 billion of fraud. I think 60. Some people have already been found guilty. A whole slew of others have been indicted. They're awaiting some have left the country trial. Some have fled the country. But it also led to the governor essentially, you know, giving up the goat earlier than planned. So giving up the goat. Is that an expression?
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E
I don't know, but you just coined it.
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C
It's really giving up the ghost. But we'll allow it because they eat goats.
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A
Yes.
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E
Are you saying Somalians eat goats?
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C
Wow, Jesse, when does this finally touch her?
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Of all the people on the table, she says the most offensive, give up the goat.
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B
All right, you thought it, not me.
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So OMAR's been married three times. What do you say about a woman that's been married three times? Tell you later. Also, we don't even know if those three marriages includes the one to her brother. So there's that. She's obviously delightful. How do you go from being worth $50,000 to 3 million back to 50,000. I guess that's what they mean when they say maths racist. The Somali situation. Do you ever wonder why the Somalis don't go to Japan? Because they don't let them. How about go to South Korea? They don't let the Somalis into South Korea. They don't let the Somalis into New Zealand. China doesn't want the Somalis. The Somalis are not really we welcome anywhere in the world except the United States. Okay. And we've gotten a little window and how they've behaved so far, and it hasn't gone well. The statistics show they're uneducated, overwhelmingly poor and on welfare. So we tried. Didn't work out. They also stole a lot. Didn't work out. And so now. I'm sorry. You ruined it. Some of them are good people. They've ruined it for the rest of them. And so we're just not going to let any more of them come in. I'm sorry. That's just the way it is.
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Okay. But Harold, you know, let's disagree with. Let's.
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Why would you disagree with that? Do you think that they've assimilated?
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Well, I think probably some have. But you can't put a. Can't have a sweeping statement like that.
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I can't. I can't.
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You can't.
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C
I'm an American.
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We can't decide who comes here.
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Right. And I think you're wrong.
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So, okay, the Somalis can live in your neighborhood then.
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No, I think so. Just 30, 20 seconds here. I differ with the congresswoman on substantive issues and have said many times on this show about things that I think she's wrong about. I'm not surprised that she is defending her constituents. But the chips are going to fall where the chips are going to fall.
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C
She authored the MEALS act that allowed for the fraud.
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Let me just finish. I only got 20 seconds. Let the chips fall where they may. I thought her answer there, if that was the full answer, that this is all about racism. But then articulate why and where there's innocence, aware why people should have the presumption you should have it because that's our system. But she should have defended it a little bit more. But look, we're going to have an opportunity to see, because her argument is the narrative is much bigger than the crime here, than the facts. And we'll see. But I'm not surprised. That's what you're paid to do as a congressperson, is to defend your constituents. And she's doing that. We'll see if they deserve that defense when they go to court.
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And they're also like poor and uneducated, the people who come here from Somalia because they're literally fleeing warlords.
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Is that what they're doing?
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It's not a moral failing.
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You do realize that.
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A lot of moral failing. To steal billions of dollars from the welfare 100% of the ones indicted were Somali.
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D
Right. But that doesn't make all Somalis.
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C
That's a cultural failing.
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D
Like, most of the members of the KKK were white.
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C
That's a cultural failing. If it is not.
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If you look at the statistics, most of them are on welfare and are poorly educated. But it hasn't worked out.
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Exploited.
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It hasn't worked out.
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And they came here and they. They committed an incredible amount of fraud. And we know that.
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I think that fraud is going to bite her on the bottom.
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D
You can't say the entire Somali population.
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No, but we have to be critical.
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But it doesn't mean you have to bring the entire Somali population to here.
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D
I thought that's what you were saying. It sounded like. I'm glad you cleared it up, because it sounded.
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C
One more thing is up next now. Just coming up next, President Trump is turning the White House into the Fight House. Stay with us.
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UFC boss Dana White laughing off the whole toxic masculinity thing. These young men, I think, you know, we went through Covid and the whole woke era and all the weird that went on during that period. A lot of the young males felt displaced. And I don't know, it was a weird time. I'm accused of being the head of the manosphere, whatever that means, and that, you know, toxic masculinity. So, Harold, Toxic Masculinity, that was your dance name back in the 80s.
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D
Dark money and natural.
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Yes. He's talking about men being displaced. And again, this is only one way, Harold. You're the only party that said women could have penises, so that's gonna displace a lot of men. How do you feel about that, Harold?
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I like the ufc. I like Dana White. I think that I'm a fan. I've go, I've been to fights. Matter of fact, I was at a fight. The President was that. And I get it. I'm more of a boxing guy. I'm more of a Sugar Ray, Marvelous, Marvin, Big Man, Tommy Hearns, Muhammad Ali kind of thing.
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But I get it.
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What Democrats have to understand is that there's some truth of what he's saying. And part of the. I think some of the political appeal the president enjoyed in 24 was because of that. Now, a lot of those people voted for him. Young people and others are having some other issues now, economic issues and challenges. But to get to stay on this point here, people should stop mocking Dana White and mocking masculinity. We've got to figure out how we protect and lift young men up and help educate and inform Them and stop pounding. Stop. Stop saying that guys are bad and young men are bad.
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Yeah. You know, Gillian, because the Democrat Party drove out basically normal dudes, they're stuck chasing these cartoon characters with Nazi symbols in the hopes that that is a masculine man. They say Tim Waltz is masculine, and he's got, like, third stage jazz hands.
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B
I didn't buy into this whole, like, men are being displaced in the United States and men are getting cast out of society. But then it came to my attention a couple of years ago, there was this Slate article. I don't know if you guys saw it, but it blew my mind. It basically exposed that 85% of people who are pursuing, like, IVF treatment in the US are doing it so that they can gender select girls. Nobody wants to have baby boys anymore.
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E
I blame Jesse Waters.
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C
Think about that.
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A
Yeah, Paula had a baby boy. I also had three girls, so take that, Jillian. Jillian would also like to apologize. Joke earlier.
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E
I have. You know, the Goat Farmers of America have contacted the Five and they are outraged.
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A
Yeah, I think it started with Meatless Mondays. Remember when Barack and Michelle, if that's what her name is, took away meat on Mondays?
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E
I think that's her name.
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I didn't like that. And then we couldn't wear sombreros on Cinco de Mayo.
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C
Oh, all that is.
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Remember, a party was. All of a sudden, it was like rape culture. It's just a party, man.
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E
All right, well, those are all great points.
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B
People die, Jesse.
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A
I have many more points. Blackface green, Harold. How dare you?
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B
I feel like we should.
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A
How dare you, Harold?
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E
Kennedy, you have an important looking face right now.
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C
Right now, it is meat stock in Tennessee. Meat is back. And, you know, we have to be very careful to lift up young men, but also teach them how to be men.
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D
I agree. That's how you gotta lift them up.
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C
Absolutely. I mean, teach them to honor women and, you know, not degrade them. That's very important. And it's easy to blur the line. But we want them to be tough and strong. We want them to be protectors.
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B
We also want them to be honorable. Also, I thought Andrew Tate was the boss of the manosphere.
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E
Well, maybe some manospheres. Maybe on Blue Sky Gillian, where you appear to camp out every night. All right, coming up next, Sting is stiff as kids. Action man and Cindy. I don't mess about. I make them kiss each other.
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Sting says he will not be leaving his reported $500 million fortune to his children, believing that not making them work is a form of abuse. Kennedy, your thoughts on this as a mom?
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C
Yeah. I sent my kids to China to make iPhones when they were 6 and
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B
8 years old and they're better off for it.
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D
Got my first job when I was 13 years old and kept worked through that in college and so forth. Jesse, your thoughts about this?
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He doesn't have to give the whole half billion. He needs to give some of it or else he's a bad father. Case cluster.
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D
Jillian, your thoughts on this?
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I'm personally very fortunate in that my 5 year old daughter is very tall. So we're gonna do the reverse. She's gonna be a supermodel and support me in my old age. That's our family plan.
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E
Supermodel.
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A
We should have Jesse Jr. And her do a play date.
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B
We should betroth them.
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D
Gigi, your thoughts? You're a believer. We've talked about politics and these guys don't encourage work. Is this the right thing to do? Should every parent.
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E
I'll tell you, I was never a fan of men at work. It was just they should add a Y to his name.
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A
Stingy.
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Stingy. Tyrus made a good point. If Sting was a good parent, he wouldn't need to say this and he would want to help his kids because his kids are already hard working and what's the point of the money if not to give it to them later in life? So it has to be about his own problems.
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B
Shaq also says he's not giving his kids his fortune. He says he tells them we ain't rich. I am.
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C
Yeah, you can send it to me, Jack.
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B
Thank you. I liked that quote.
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D
The Ford kids love slings music. One More Thing is up next.
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Time now for One more Thing. Big day at Moreland Farm. We had the Flurry seventh invitational. We had tuna winters. Andrew. Kevin. He said we weren't going to suck and we didn't. Fourth place overall. Crushed it. And the event raised $75,000 benefiting local fire, EMS and more service organizations in the Far Hills and Bedminster area. Also, 200,000 went to health care in the region. A lot of money for a lot of kids and people. We did a great thing. 20 seconds.
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E
You jerk.
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A
There I am knocking them down. Gutfeld. That's what guns look like tonight.
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E
I got a great show tonight.
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A
Jesse Waters primetime. Happy DEI Thursday.
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D
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E
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