The Democrat Brand Is Getting Worse

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five – "The Democrat Brand Is Getting Worse"

Release Date: June 3, 2025
Host: FOX News Radio

In the June 3, 2025, episode of "The Five", FOX News Radio hosts Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld, Lara Trump, Harold Ford Jr., and Dana Perino delve into the deteriorating brand of the Democratic Party. The discussion navigates through various facets contributing to the party's decline, touching upon political strategies, policy failures, and leadership crises.

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1. The Decline of the Democratic Brand

Jesse Watters opens the conversation by highlighting the repetitive negative headlines surrounding the Democrats, emphasizing the party's struggle to maintain its former connection with the middle class. He contrasts this with President Trump's dominance in the news cycle, suggesting that Democrats are distracted with trivialities like "cringe taco videos" instead of addressing substantive issues.

"Every day is like Groundhog Day for the cringe Democrats waking up to the same humiliating headlines about how their brand's in the toilet."
— Jesse Watters [00:34]

Greg Gutfeld questions how Democrats, despite positive economic indicators like a booming stock market and declining unemployment rates (unrelated to the transcript but inferred context), find themselves trailing in the political arena.

"After all the recession, after the stock market's been doing all of this, after all the terrorists that Americans are against, and Republicans still hold an 8?"
— Greg Gutfeld [01:24]

Harold Ford Jr. responds by addressing internal party conflicts, specifically the "Trump derangement syndrome," and advocates for a more strategic and measured approach rather than reactive hysterics.

"There are those in team resistance who feel like we should react hysterically to everything that Donald Trump says or does."
— Harold Ford Jr. [01:24]

2. Leadership and Strategic Direction

Dana Perino critiques the Democratic Party's focus on issues that voters deem less critical, such as climate change, while neglecting pressing concerns like immigration, education, and job creation. She points out the lack of a strong, identifiable Democratic leader to revive the party's fortunes.

"Nobody could name the head of the DNC, nobody could say who the head of the Democrats is. Nobody is emerging yet."
— Dana Perino [02:56]

Harold Ford Jr. shares historical insights, comparing the current Democratic predicament to past political eras, and underscores the necessity for the party to innovate and reconnect with the middle class. He advocates for bold policies and a clear ideological stance to regain voter trust.

"We have to remember he lost Iowa, lost New Hampshire. It wasn't until Super Tuesday that basically the biggest group, the most reliable group of voters in the Democratic Party, black voters, gave him victories in big states across the south and really rekindled his campaign."
— Harold Ford Jr. [04:14]

3. The Impact of Misinformation and Political Scandals

Greg Gutfeld discusses the damaging effects of perceived lies and scandals within the Democratic Party, referencing Joe Biden's so-called "auto pen" incident. He argues that such events erode public trust and exacerbate partisan resentment.

"The Democrats always thrived on hoaxes, assuming that by the time the big lie would be exposed... But the reveal is so spectacular. And the result is resentment, bitterness, disgust over the actions of a party who thought they could pull this off."
— Greg Gutfeld [08:11]

Jesse Watters and Lara Trump explore the implications of Biden's alleged use of an "auto pen" for signing presidential pardons, suggesting a lack of direct involvement and raising questions about the legitimacy of such actions.

"There is this White House opinion that the only pardon that would count is one that the President signed himself."
— Lara Trump [13:35]

4. Immigration and National Security Concerns

A significant portion of the discussion centers on immigration policies under the Biden administration. Lara Trump and Harold Ford Jr. express alarm over the administration's handling of border security, citing recent incidents involving illegal immigrants committing heinous crimes.

"They spent so much time on climate change that they weren't dealing with the things that people really care about, jobs."
— Dana Perino [02:13]

Jesse Watters draws parallels between current immigration policies and post-9/11 security failures, asserting that unchecked immigration poses existential threats to national security and societal stability.

"If you were taking a time machine from now to go right after 9/11... you would think that the party was committing suicide."
— Jesse Watters [22:18]

Harold Ford Jr. urges the Democratic Party to collaborate more effectively with local law enforcement and utilize advanced technologies like AI to identify and deport individuals involved in criminal activities.

"We have to use every tool to try to make sure we fight because there are a lot more of these guys out there."
— Harold Ford Jr. [28:07]

5. Internal Party Challenges and Future Outlook

Harold Ford Jr. emphasizes the need for the Democratic Party to undergo substantial restructuring and adopt a more moderate and strategic approach to regain its lost foothold among voters. He expresses optimism about revitalizing the party but acknowledges the significant challenges ahead.

"We are still smart on taxes and the economy and education. We just got to be bolder. And if we're not bold, we're going to be having this silly conversation for a much longer time than I want to."
— Harold Ford Jr. [04:14]

Lara Trump supports the call for a balanced approach within the party, advocating for a blend of reasonable policies and the tempering of radical elements to make the party more palatable to the broader electorate.

"Maybe there's a counterbalance with some reasonable flag folks on the left, because I think that's the best thing for this country."
— Lara Trump [06:42]

6. Conclusion: The Path Forward

The episode concludes with a consensus among the hosts that the Democratic Party must confront its internal issues, refocus on critical voter concerns, and develop strong leadership to reverse its declining brand. The hosts express a sense of urgency, underscoring that without significant changes, the party risks prolonged political irrelevance.

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Notable Quotes:

• "The momentum is on the side of hysterical hyperbolic resistance."
  — Harold Ford Jr. [02:09]

• "The brainwash has worn off. You know, Trump didn't just make the red hats, he made the red pills."
  — Greg Gutfeld [11:14]

• "Obama, remember this? Clinton got tough on crime. He put 100,000 cops on the street. The last balanced budget we had was in 1998."
  — Harold Ford Jr. [19:37]

• "Identity politics as well. It's based on envy and resentment. What do these people have that I don't have that makes you bitter?"
  — Greg Gutfeld [31:44]

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Final Thoughts:

"The Five" presents a critical examination of the Democratic Party's current state, attributing its struggles to ineffective leadership, misaligned policy priorities, and a failure to resonate with the middle-class electorate. The hosts advocate for a strategic overhaul, emphasizing the need for boldness, genuine policy focus, and cohesive leadership to restore the party's credibility and electoral viability.

Transcript

[Jesse Watters]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

All right.

[Jesse Watters]

Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Walters along with Lara Trump, Harold Ford Jr. Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five. Every day is like Groundhog Day for the cringe Democrats waking up to the same humiliating headlines about how their brand's in the toilet. While President Trump dominates the news cycle with fresh eos and investments in America, the party that used to speak for the middle class is now too busy tweeting cringe taco videos to taunt the President. And the DNC was serving up free tacos outside the rnc. Even the usual lapdogs at CNN can't clean up the mess. You expect that Democrats would have this massive lead on the economy?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

It ain't so.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It ain't so. How is that possible? Democrats, how is that possible? After all the recession, after the stock market's been doing all of this, after all the terrorists that Americans are against, and Republicans still hold an 8? They have traditionally been the party of the middle class.

[Jesse Watters]

No more. This Democratic lawmaker thinks the easiest way to win back voters is to chill out with the Trump derangement syndrome.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

There are those in team resistance who feel like we should react hysterically to everything that Donald Trump says or does. And then there are those who feel like we should pick and choose our battles and be strategic.

[Jesse Watters]

But I worry that the momentum is.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

On the side of hysterical hyperbolic resistance.

[Jesse Watters]

And the enormous expenditure of time and energy and resistance might crowd out the.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Restructuring and moderation that needs to happen within the Democratic Party.

[Jesse Watters]

And tough guy Tim Waltz is now asking his son for tips on how to talk to men.

[Greg Gutfeld]

My son Gus, and he's pretty in tune to this. But when he said this, he said, dad, a lot of these young guys especially said they're not voting on the policy issues. They're doing it because there's a sense of excitement, a sense of thrill in this. Donald Trump understands belonging, understand groups. I mean, you look at it, he gives them a uniform, the red hat. He gives them some Chance, some talking points, whatever. It's not that all that different than when we build sports teams in high school.

[Jesse Watters]

So, Dana, we're in June, the election was a while ago, we had tacos. We have the Suns giving them advice. How do you think the Democrats are handling this?

[Dana Perino]

I think this is a cue for producers everywhere that this is a story we can do every day from now until the night of election night 2028 because they dug themselves such a deep hole on the issues that people care about the most. So inflation still an issue, but getting a little bit better. But people are still reminded that been paying higher prices since after Covid you immigration issue. Every single day we are dealing with that. Whether you can remember what happened at the border itself or you have a situation like what happened in Boulder, Colorado with a visa overstayer. You had the fact that they spent so much time on climate change that they weren't dealing with the things that people really care about, jobs. And I would also add that the Democrats have continued to support the teachers unions while at the same time America's kids cannot read and write or do basic math. And we are going into a situation where we're going to compete with China or with what? With the robots. I mean, that is a little bit insane. I do think that their big problem to me is that Tim Walls is their spokesperson. First of all, nobody could name the head of the dnc, nobody could say who the head of the Democrats is. Nobody is emerging yet. And we are in June and I don't see anybody emerging because Harold Ford Jr. Refuses to throw his hat the ring.

[Jesse Watters]

He emerges every day at 5:00. Harold, your name was invoked. What would you like to say?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

It is good to be back at the table. Welcome. Thank you. I remind Democrats as we think about this moment in the wilderness, and I tried to share a little bit of it yesterday. This happens after a presidential race. The losing party or the losing group has to figure out what they do, what they do differently and better. I'm old enough, mature enough to remember there was a time when I didn't think the Democrats would get back to the White house. In the 80s, you had Reagan, late 80s, you had H.W. bush to 92. And all of a sudden this governor from Arkansas appeared and captured the imagination of the party. We have to remember he lost Iowa, lost New Hampshire. It wasn't until Super Tuesday that basically the biggest group, the most reliable group of voters in the Democratic Party, black voters, gave him victories in big states across the south and really rekindled his campaign. Republicans were out of control in the House of Representatives for 40 years, from 1952 to 1992, 1994, excuse me. And it took 40 years. It took Newt Gingrich and the Contract With America to revive Republican relevance. And when it comes to that kind of politics in 2008, people thought after Obama that Republicans couldn't get organized, that Republicans didn't have a bench. Then your father in law came along and did something to the political system that upended it all. And we're seeing it now. Middle class and working class, reliable Democratic voters are now voting for Republican. I would argue President Trump almost supersedes the political party system. He's a Republican, but he's bigger than that. In many ways. That's the future of politics. He has ideas. I don't agree with all of your father in law's ideas, but I got to tell you, he has a way about him where if he thinks it's going to work, he'll stick with it. If he doesn't, he's willing. He's willing to change and to adapt to what the country wants. We as Democrats have to understand that going back to the old ways won't work. We talked on this show tactics, spending money to figure out if we should do podcasts. Let's get a purpose again. Let's get a set of ideas again. You said it well the other day. Let's get a reason and then you can think about the tactics. We are still smart on taxes and the economy and education. We just got to be bolder. And if we're not bold, we're going to be having this silly conversation for a much longer time than I want to.

[Jesse Watters]

Laura, he brought up flexibility, and that's always good to have when you're a politician sometimes. Why can't the Democrats be a little more flexible and listen to the voters and say, hey, maybe we're going to pivot back a little to the center?

[Lara Trump]

That's a great question. And maybe Harold wants to opine on that. But look, I think the problem they're having right now is that there are two different groups within the Democrat Party, right? You have the people who want to be a little more reasonable, Harold. And then you have the very far left wing of the party that is very radical. And I don't think most Americans can align with that. And it turns out I love to see the way they freak out over this new polling and over this new information that Americans like what they see with Donald Trump. I think for the first time in 20 years, 50% of the country thinks we're on the right track, thinks that things are going well in America, and they believe in this president. When you have gaslit people and lied to people like the Democrats did for really the past 10 years with Donald Trump, but now you start to see the result. You see that inflation is going down. You see that we actually had a great result. Whenever it came to our trade deficit, we almost slashed it in half between the months of March and April. When things are moving in the right direction, Americans feel it. They can feel the restoration of this country. They can feel the strength of this country. They know the Republican Party is the one in charge right now doing it. And so I would advise, I would love to have a little, you know, counterbalance with some reasonable flag folks on the left, because I think that's the best thing for this country. We can all talk about things, but they're reasonable and they're not crazy anymore.

[Jesse Watters]

Greg, I know you like to really hash over these poll numbers. Take us on a deep dive, what you're seeing on these polls.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, first off, I want to say the tie is amazing. And happy Pride month.

[Jesse Watters]

Thank you very much. Happy Pride Month.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm glad you remembered. I sent it to him a few weeks ago. All right, so here's the problem. This is different. The damage is done. The Democrats always thrived on hoaxes, assuming that by the time the big lie would be exposed, whether it would be Russian collusion or the fine people hoax, they already got what they needed. The emotional impact of the lie resonated. The truth didn't matter. It's based on that understanding that, you know, working in the press office, the big story always lands on the front page two weeks later. The corrections on page B7, that's how it worked. The New York Times and the Washington Post still have their Pulitzers for the alleged Russian interference story, even though we know it's bs. But then something happened, and this is why it's so different. Tapper's book came out and he deflates this hoax, but it was a hoax that we already knew, but his audience didn't. It was the first time that the correction didn't get buried in the back pages. Biden's infirmity is now more well known than Biden himself. His name will never be separated from what happened. So the interesting thing, even more interesting than that, if you can imagine, the book didn't sell. That tells you everything. His audience, Jake's audience, was just informed that they were stupid, that they were gullible that they just got taken. Who wants to buy that book? More important, who wants to be a part of that party that sold you that lie? I don't think there's any way you can walk back from this hoax the way you could with others, because it was played one on, it was played on your side. And the reveal is so spectacular. And the result is resentment, bitterness, disgust over the actions of a party who thought they could pull this off, assuming that the correction would be minor. Instead, it is huge, perhaps the biggest political scandal in history. Finally, in terms of politics in general, the brainwash has worn off. You know, Trump didn't just make the red hats, he made the red pills. People now realize that the Dems have no truth, but just assigned opinions. Think about all of these opinions. You know, rich people bad, poor people good. Joe Biden, fine. Trump, Hitler, George Floyd, a martyr, blm. Heroic men can be women. These were assigned opinions. They came from committee. And once you're without these opinions, what's left? There's no structure, there's no unifying principle, there's no leader. That's what you're feeling. Trump realized this already because he was outside of politics, that for the past 40 years, all political opinions were assigned. You could be a Democrat, he was. You could be a Republican, he was. He is. So love him or hate him, he shattered this prism. There's no going back for Republicans and for Trumpers. Now it's the time for the Democrats to realize they've been suckered, that everything that they were told was assigned to them and not real.

[Jesse Watters]

Should we give Harold the red pill?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Jesse Watters]

We'll just put it in your.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Tell them it's a Flintstones vitamin.

[Jesse Watters]

Here you go. Chew it up, it'll go down. Knock it back, Harold.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I like those blue pills you take.

[Jesse Watters]

Coming up. I did not see decline in that man. Joe Biden. Bill Clinton is back to defend former president Auto Pen. I like Soul with a capital S.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Soul with a capital.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Harold Ford Jr.]

Wow.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Is Joe Biden in decline? Bill Clinton says it Depends on what the meaning of the word is is. Did you ever have a moment with him where you thought maybe he was.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Unfit to run for president? No, I thought he was a good president.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You never saw any cognitive decline.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

So I didn't know anything about any of this and I haven't read the book. I saw President Biden not very long ago and I thought he was in good shape.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Pretty gutsy of her to wear blue. Dana Bubba's defense comes as Trump probes Joe's use of the auto pen and whether the big guy was even awake when he signed some last minute pardons for his family. And and January 6th and earlier Ducey brought the receipts to the White House briefing. Most of the big ones have the.

[Lara Trump]

Same very neat signature.

[Jesse Watters]

We would expect that probably to be the auto pen. There is one that looks different. It looks authentic.

[Lara Trump]

In fact, if you look at the last name, it almost looks like the President was having a hard time spelling his last name.

[Jesse Watters]

There is this White House of the opinion that the only pardon that would count is one that the President signed himself.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Ms.

[Dana Perino]

Very interesting props.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

If you want to bring them to.

[Dana Perino]

My office later so I can take a closer look, I would like to do that. The President is making a good point.

[Lara Trump]

When he discusses the usage of the auto pen. Who was running the country for the past four years. The American people deserve answers.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So Harold, this is very interesting. I think the question every Democrat is going to have to answer is the one they're giving to Bill Clinton. They're going to do this nonsense, so you better have an answer. Harold, do you have an answer?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

He's no longer president. The country decided they wanted Laura's father in law again and I think it was a resounding rejection of Mr. Biden, Ms. Harris and all of the things the Democratic Party was cooking at that moment. I do think it's possible for someone to have an exchange with someone or a set of exchanges with someone and walk away with a different experience or walk away with a different impression than perhaps the consensus impression is a little later. I'll give you a lot of credit and give everybody around this table a lot of credit. For a long time you talked about the cognitive decline on this show and other shows, your own show and other shows, as you all did, but there were people who were around him who didn't see it quite that way. I've said before this story is not getting better and as a Democrat, what I am more focused on is not only looking ahead but trying to give people something that will Excite them. That will inform them and will make them want to feel good about my party again. Because I agree with Laura. I may want to beat her party at some point, but I want her party to be vibrant. And I'm appreciative you want Democrats to be reasonable and vibrant as well. So I can't wait, frankly, for this story to go away so we can get on with the business of trying to rebuild and reconstitute our party and stand up for the middle class of this country.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well said. I think kind of zoned out.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Laura, what do you do when I talk.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Laura, what do you make of this auto pen story? I mean, it seems like that that is like, going to be a real stickler.

[Lara Trump]

Well, it is. I mean, and that's what President Trump is actually calling Joe Biden now. He's just calling him auto pen.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Yeah, that's.

[Lara Trump]

He's replacing Biden with the word auto pen. I think it's hilarious. But truly, I think overall, when you look at these pardons, I think a lot of us have a lot of questions. First of all, very important documents were signed supposedly with an auto pen. I don't know that that's legitimate. I mean, I'm not an expert here, but that seems as an American citizen, like, maybe I want the president really knowing what he's signing. The pardons for his family and these January 6th individuals, I think, are very interesting. If you think back to 2021, President Trump in January of 2021 was urged by a lot of people to sign a preemptive pardon for himself and actually for pretty much everyone in our family. A lot of people said he should do that. He didn't do that. He didn't do it because he understood the precedent that I think that would set. And he also understood that none of us had done anything for which we needed to be pardoned.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Right.

[Lara Trump]

So I look at these pardons, and I think that when we get to the bottom of what's going on with this auto pin, if indeed he used an auto pin to sign those, maybe they're not legitimate and maybe a lot of those people are going to be a little bit nervous coming up.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I hope so. You know, Dana, I'm wondering, why is Bill Clinton out there doing this? Does he hate being around Hillary so much that he'll take any interview?

[Dana Perino]

No. I mean, he has a book out. Ah. That's why he's doing. I mean, even last year, remember when Hillary Clinton put a book out in the middle of the election season, it was like what are you doing? Because then she kept having to answer questions about Kamala Harris. So the timing is the fact that he has a book out. Now, Bill Clinton is actually four years younger than Joe Biden, but he was president 30 years earlier than that. Okay. And Biden's demise is Bill's book bounce at this point. And Tracy Smith is the reporter. And it reminded me of. Do you remember when J.D. vance said to Margaret Brennan, do you hear yourself?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

I almost felt like Tracy Smith could say to Bill Clinton, do you hear yourself? I mean, you say that you don't. Obviously, Bill Clinton is keeping tabs on politics. He always has. Like, he loves it. He knows his book is coming out, and he made a decision to say that Biden's fine.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

Instead of being able to say, look, we got to figure out a way to move forward. And he could have been the Democrat that says, let's go on. But I don't think people in the Democratic Party are really looking to him anymore. Yeah, I don't think.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jesse, could you imagine those two in a steam room?

[Jesse Watters]

Who, Dana and Bill Clinton?

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden just sitting there talking it up and the shits, all that flesh.

[Jesse Watters]

So I believe Bill Clinton. Why am I saying that?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't know.

[Jesse Watters]

I do believe him.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Maya Angelou and now this.

[Lara Trump]

Yes.

[Jesse Watters]

And I kind of agree with Harold. I don't think he really noticed it. I think he was up to other things.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. There was a woman in the room when he was talking to Biden.

[Jesse Watters]

He was distracted, Greg. But if you think about it, who came off as classier after the coup, Obama or Bill Clinton? You'd have to say Clinton. He didn't get his hands dirty. Barack got humiliated, and his people ran Kamala's campaign, and they lost. So Clinton comes out looking good. And Clinton's brand of politics for a Democrat comes out looking really good. The budget, the border, everything they did domestically. Democrats should look back at the 90s and maybe take a page out of the playbook. Bill Clinton was a man's man. How about that? He was friends with 41, golfed with your father in law. Your father in law says some of the stories Bill Clinton told on the.

[Lara Trump]

Golf course, Unbelievable, legendary.

[Jesse Watters]

He wouldn't repeat them. We're begging him to repeat them. But that's what they should look to. And, Larry, never say you're not an expert. None of us are experts.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay. We just pretend to be experts. Tonight we're having an autopen investigation on primetime.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Wow, that's exciting. I'm an expert.

[Jesse Watters]

I know everything about it. So watch at 8:00.

[Greg Gutfeld]

By the way, you write about Bill Clinton. He was actually talking about the problems with awoke I think two years ago.

[Dana Perino]

He was, yeah, but so was Obama. But he was president even he was like, we can't be doing this.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, but that was actually a body double.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Obama, remember this? Clinton got tough on crime. He put 100,000 cops on the street. The last balanced budget we had was in 1998. I was blessed to be able to vote for that was under Bill Clinton.

[Dana Perino]

Bill Clinton.

[Lara Trump]

Clinton today would probably be a Republican. If you look at the things that he cared about in the policies, they're pretty in line with the Republican Party.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I think you could say the same thing about Harold Ford or President Trump.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I think.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Look where we are, Harold.

[Lara Trump]

There it is.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

All right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Up next, Trump's border czar with a chilling warning on the border after a Biden migrant. Biden migrant firebombs Jews.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Sling has all the important national.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Lara Trump]

Borders are Tom Homan with an urgent and chilling warning for America. After an illegal immigrant Joe Biden let in launched a horrific hate crime attack against Jewish people in Colorado.

[Greg Gutfeld]

The Biden administration will bring people unvetted handing out work visa like their candy.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

While they sat here and planned something bad.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We are going to be dealing with.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

This for the next 10 years because of the chaos they created in four years. Two million people paid more to get away.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They didn't want to be vetted. They didn't want to be fingerprinted.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Why? This scares the hell out of me.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I've been doing this for 40 years.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

It should have scared the hell out of every American.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What the Biden administration did.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

This two man known got away scares the hell out of me.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So I'm convinced something's coming unless we can find him.

[Lara Trump]

And now Fox News can confirm the wife and all five kids of the suspected terrorist are in ICE custody. And the White House says the family could be deported as soon as tonight. They said quote, six one way tickets for Mohammed's wife and five kids. Final boarding call coming soon. Jesse, you know the 2 million known got aways. These are people who Came over the border and went out of their way not to be detected. We don't know who they are. We don't know why they're here. We don't know what their goals are, being here. Tom Holman says it scares the hell.

[Jesse Watters]

Out of him, and it should. If you were taking a time machine from now to go right after 9 11, and you would say that the Democratic Party let in millions and millions of people from the Middle east, from Africa, China, Venezuela, you would think the party was committing suicide. Or you would think there was a hostile takeover of the United States. Because these same people who were there on 9 11, they're still in power in Washington. They go to 911 ceremonies, and then they tweet, neverforget. And then they're okay with letting in half the world unchecked just because they want the cheap labor, just because they want the new voters. You know, they say, you know, it's different because this guy didn't come across the border. They're still flying him in. And then there's chain migration. So this guy's here, he's got his wife and he's got his five kids. And the kids are using our schools, they're using our hospitals, they're jacking up rent, they're jacking up insurance. This is becoming almost as bad as Defund the police. Remember how much damage that did to the Democratic Party and what they're doing to the ICE agents, attacking ice. I think it's going to be the exact same thing what happened to the Democrats with the fund, the police here.

[Lara Trump]

Yeah. Dana, I think the question that a lot of us still have is why did this happen? You know, you hear Tom Homan say they're literally handing out work visas like candy in the Biden administration to these people. We know that there was just no check at all. They were actually facilitating the entry.

[Jesse Watters]

Why?

[Dana Perino]

Well, as Abe Greenwald says, I hate to keep repeating his phrase, but it's much worse than that, because the work visas, it's one thing, right? But when we would do stories on Fox about the known gotaways, for example, at the White House briefing room, the press secretary would say, the border is secure. The Homeland Security secretary would say, the border is secure. Like, you could literally have Mayorkas or Karine Jean Pierre on TV saying the border is secure into a split screen and have our cameras at the border. The only media that was there, for the most part, showing them, actually, they're just streaming across. Our ICE agents were overwhelmed. They got into the country, so many got Aways and thank goodness you have people like Tom Holmes who can't sleep, won't sleep for probably 10 years because of what we are dealing with. I also believe that one of the biggest reasons Biden's lost one is this issue. But it's also why they are continuing to have this problem. Because who's going to step up and say Mayorkas was wrong, Karin Jean Pierre was wrong, Biden was wrong, we should never have let that happen. And now I do think that every president since 911 has lost sleep over this issue. This is the thing that worries them the most. Like are we in the right spot, are we finding them? And because you have the anti Semitism that is growing on top of all of this and that global intifada is now here inside the borders, it makes it much more difficult. So we have to give law enforcement and the intelligence community everything that they need to try to protect people who are vulnerable.

[Lara Trump]

Yeah, and you know Greg, this guy, I think as Jesse pointed out, maybe he didn't come across the border but he overstayed a work visa. He was here illegally. This is just another example I think of someone who should never have been here to commit this crime. Yet here he was.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Kind of goes back to what we were talking about in the A block about the idea that you know, this is different than the usual disgust with a party. Remember Mayorkas also lied to the American people about Biden's mental state. I believe he said that he couldn't keep up with them. So I mean even Harold's laughing. But when you think about it, the border accurately reflected Joe's mental state. You know, chaos, decline and neglect. And as a result a lot of people died. They died at the hands of criminals. And you have attacks like this and the media is complicit because you know we, I mean we were doing the border every day so much so we were sick of it. And every other network did not cover it. They mocked us, you know, with the, I'm sure Chris Van Allen, is that his name? He's going to probably hop on a plane to meet with this guy's wife and kids. Just don't, just don't order the cocktails. But I love with Homan there is no screwing around, there's no phony virtue signaling, there's no self important activism, there's no false empathy or false compassion. You may have as a Democrat you may worry about his methods but you won't worry about him not doing his job. He's moving fast cuz he has to Play catch up. This is like Trump took over a property that's been in disrepair, overrun by squatters. It's not gonna be safe overnight.

[Lara Trump]

Harold. You know, they, you look at this guy, the Boulder suspect here, and they say he was a lone wolf, meaning, you know, he wasn't part of a bigger network or anything like that. But you see this on the heels of this DC shooting of the Jewish couple, you see this, you know, in conjunction with all this anti Semitism boiling over on college campuses. I think a lot of people are feeling very upset and very nervous right now, and I think rightly so.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

No, I would agree. We've covered this rightly so. And I hope this is a story we continue to cover because it has two, I think, important aspects. One is the. You touched on it. Well, Laura, the anti Semitism and two is the deportations we're trying to do. I tried to say yesterday, I think Tom Holman means well. And I think again I've said before, I think he looks oftentimes like he's trying out for a Clint Eastwood movie. And that's fine, but we ought to be. Instead of blaming Biden and blaming Obama and blaming Clinton, you're in charge. Now. I hope that you look at two things to try to get this, get the crime thing right, because anti Semitism and deportations are all revolving around awful crimes that are being committed. Use and collaborate with local law enforcement. They're the ones that have all the information about a lot of these people. And two, use AI to help sort through this. I want every guy in this country or woman in this country or kid in this country who's related to somebody like this guy who's been planning this for a year to kill Jewish people. He was waiting for his kids to get out of the house so he could do it. I want us to find using AI and using every possible lead we can where these people are and let them be a part of that first group you want to kick out as well. I'm one Democrat who will say send them wherever you want to send them, but let's stop blaming everybody. And the tone, the disposition sometimes I think he and Stephen Miller, who I think is probably a well meaning guy, work with people, work with local law enforcement and use every tool at your disposal to try to prevent and let alone limit, but not try to prevent these type of awful, tragic things from happening around our country, particularly with people who are here illegally.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But Harold, the tone is part of the package. It might even.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

But that's not my tone.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's like, I don't mind home. Like, I agree Homan can come off rough, but man, that's who he is. And I want that.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

That's fine. But then do the job.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Don't blend. Have you seen the number of illegals?

[Lara Trump]

The lowest number in the history of America.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

But then don't blame Biden. We have to blame Biden because there.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Needs to be retribution. There needs to be justice. And I'm not going to rest until behind. You're behind bars.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Do you want me to. What if I just blamed whites in the 60s and the 70s and never forgave anybody? I mean, I hear what you're saying and I get. I get whites, Harold.

[Jesse Watters]

I have forgiven them.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I forgive you.

[Jesse Watters]

It's going to be a long time.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I forgive you every night I'm on this show. I understand. My only point is use every tool to try to make sure we fight because there are a lot more of these guys out there, I think, and.

[Dana Perino]

I don't want to try to prevent this. He needs. They do want to work with local law enforcement. One of the problems is like for example, Eric Adams here, he wants to work with ice, but they're not allowed.

[Lara Trump]

They're not helping because of sanctuary cities. That's the biggest problem.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

But if you walk in, they will. They're not going to let you just set up and go into restaurants. And for there, I don't mind some of that. But if you tell them we know there's a guy named this guy and a woman here and a guy there, here's where they're on this list because we've used this to. We need to be able to find them, help us. You have other information. That's all I'm saying. I think they think they're tools we should be using.

[Lara Trump]

Carol's ready to go.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I love it. Look.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Clint Eastwood. Let's go.

[Lara Trump]

Here we go. Coming up. Why are liberals so miserable while conservatives are having the time of their life?

[Dana Perino]

An accused rapist, murder. And the Democrats can't hide their Trump rage. Their language shows it. Watch.

[Greg Gutfeld]

When it's adult like Donald Trump, you bully the out of him.

[Jesse Watters]

This is what kicking the out of fascism looks like.

[Lara Trump]

Total bull.

[Dana Perino]

Absolutely bull. I don't swear in public very well.

[Jesse Watters]

But we have to.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Trump. You could speak directly to Elon Musk. What would you say?

[Dana Perino]

But where does all this anger come from? Nate Silver says he's looking at polls that show the mental health of conservatives versus liberals and 51% of conservatives say they are excellent in mental health. Compared to just 20% of liberals. And then there's a shocking 45% of liberals say they are in poor mental health. And that's compared to 19% of conservatives. Greg, you are armchair psychiatrist and you've been saying this for a long time.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I've been saying this. And the solution to this is so simple. Life is hard enough without a filter that makes you extra miserable. So you need like a filter that accurately predicts life firmly planted in reality, the liberal filter. You always wake up in a hole because nothing you think is going to happen actually happens. But if you actually think think that men could be women, you're in for a shock when you go out. These are things that in no way will be matched by your assumptions in the world. Identity politics as well. It's based on envy and resentment. What do these people have that I don't have that makes you bitter? You wake up every morning feeling like you're a victim and you're oppressed. That's not good. You end up obsessed with yourself when you should be looking outward and upward and the world around you. The more you pay attention to yourself and who you are as opposed to what you do, you end up becoming incredibly miserable. It is the easiest fix in the world.

[Dana Perino]

Do you think, Jesse, this is because conservatives are lifting heavy.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, has a lot to do with it. And Greg touched on pretty much everything. We'll add one thing. David Mamet was on the show last night. He said liberals have poor mental health because they spend all day denying reality and then they're living in a fantasy. You know, women don't need men and walls don't work and what that does to you, it just warps your brain. Also, you're recruiting a lot of democr from the inner city and it's polluted and there's no sunlight and you're living in these cramped boxes. Those people already are a little depressed and you hit all the stuff.

[Dana Perino]

Can I add one more thing though? Because in Get It Together, you interview all of these people who at the end, it's almost like every person that you interviewed at the end, you're like, wait. But this is the problem.

[Jesse Watters]

It's mostly poor parenting too.

[Dana Perino]

So blame your mom and dad, okay? But we will never blame you. Harold, I know you're not.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

What you just said. What's your shield against being the inner city? All that kind of stuff.

[Jesse Watters]

There's a lot of whites here too, Harold. Stop making it so racist. You've seen these depressed whites.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I'm standing up for the poor Whites too.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You should.

[Jesse Watters]

Someone needs to.

[Dana Perino]

What else you want to say, Harold?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

How do you. What I don't know is how do you evaluate someone's mental health in a poll? I mean, I don't, I don't question self reported exactly. I mean, who's going to say they're crazy?

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, I think so.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It would air on the lower percentage. It's actually higher than the poll would.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Would suggest.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Harold, you just got hoisted on your own pet.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

You are mentally. How would you answer the question? Are you mentally ill? Are you mentally.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, I definitely have some issues. No question. No.

[Dana Perino]

All of us are on that spectrum somewhere along the way. But you see it a lot out on the campaign trail over the past two years. Right. The Republicans are having a great time.

[Lara Trump]

Well, and I feel like, Dana, you walk down the street and you can tell just first glance at somebody. And Harold, I don't put you in this box because you're very pleasant. I think you're this 20% that's very happy and having a good time. You can tell generally speaking where somebody's politics lied just on their overall demeanor. Every single time it seems like it has worked out.

[Jesse Watters]

I love that instinct. Just look at someone, you know everything about them.

[Lara Trump]

I kind of feel true.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jeff just.

[Jesse Watters]

I am up and down.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You can tell Harold is happy because he's around people like us.

[Lara Trump]

They're bringing him up. I think that's nice.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Could you imagine if he was like on Morning Joe?

[Jesse Watters]

Oh, he dang himself.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, he would. He would collapse at a.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Probably die Morning Joe with your father in law.

[Lara Trump]

He's the reason you got out.

[Dana Perino]

All right ahead. Apparently it's over for men like Greg.

[Jesse Watters]

You know, Harbor Freight for a.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

The war on short kings is now being waged on dating apps. Dudes are freaking out after Tinder started testing. Get this, a new height filter allowing women to screen out shorter men. It's only available to premium members. Wealthier women, which costs 40 bucks. Let me go to. Obviously this thing really appeals to Jesse. Do you feel like you could be discriminated against here?

[Jesse Watters]

Six two.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

What are you? Six two?

[Jesse Watters]

I'm six one and a half. Did I just say one and a half?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Jesse Watters]

That was embarrassing. If they're gonna do this to guys like Greg, we should have a filter for women's sizes.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

They do.

[Dana Perino]

On hinge.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay.

[Dana Perino]

On hinge, what's good for the goose.

[Jesse Watters]

Is good for the game.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's funny that it's unhinged because that would break if she was fat.

[Dana Perino]

Kate told me that. Yes, on hinge, the women have to put their weight. She said no lying. That's what she even wrote on here. But there's. Yeah. Anyway, what do you think? I've never been on a dating app, so I don't really know. I don't know. I don't care.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Oh, I have a lot of exclamation point. What are your thoughts about this?

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's not going to work for women because the numbers of women seeking tall successful men they out. It's like a 10 to 1 ratio. It's something akin to BMOC on, you know, big man on campus. It'll be one or two males who will scoop up all the women and then all those other guys will go out elsewhere like the women's junior colleges to get laid. Meanwhile, none of These men, these BMOCs are going to be incentivized for long term relationships because they have this algorithm that gives them a pool of partners which they can use casually so it screws over over everybody.

[Dana Perino]

Oh, now I'm screwing you over.

[Jesse Watters]

Is that what you're like?

[Greg Gutfeld]

The guys are like, I'm not 95, 97% of the guys are like see you later if you want the 3%. And then the women are lining up for 3% but they're not getting a relationship.

[Jesse Watters]

All successful guys never get married. They never settle down. Is that what you're saying? You made this up to feel better?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Laura, your thoughts about this? Okay, how tall is Eric?

[Lara Trump]

Well, Eric is 65 and I am 5 11. And I would actually have appreciated something like this. I was too before the era of app dating or online dating. Eric and I met out in person, but the first thing I noticed was that I was wearing heels and my husband was taller than I was when we first met.

[Jesse Watters]

That's all women want.

[Lara Trump]

For me, this would have been very applicable.

[Greg Gutfeld]

My wife was taller and I was wearing heels.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

We know that and we know that Jesse is six foot one and a half.

[Jesse Watters]

Wow, that's so embarrassing.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

One more thing is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Repair clinic came to America.

[Jesse Watters]

Alright, time now for one more thing. Father's Day just around the corner. Fox Shop has you covered. Check out this collection. The proud American dad. We've got new merch, we have denim jackets. Dana has her eyes on that. We have some glasses. We got a nice decanter. He's going home with Harold. Greg doesn't want anything. He doesn't even know what a golf ball is. This is a golf ball. It's not an eight ball. Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's like an old man's garage sale.

[Jesse Watters]

Tonight, Jesse Waters, primetime. We have Biden's Auto Pen A investigation. Also, a very special announcement. The 5 is on TikTok after all these years. We're on TikTok after all these years.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Saying it's a communist plot. We're on it.

[Dana Perino]

And it's also illegal, but we can.

[Jesse Watters]

Still do it doing what we're told.

[Lara Trump]

Greg.

[Dana Perino]

Days, 90 more days.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Maybe there's a reason they didn't tell me. All right, we got a great show tonight. Michael Loftus, he's homeless. Glenn Jacobs, Kennedy Tyrus. That's tonight. Let's do this. Greg's absolutely disgusting news. I find this completely repulsive. A baby porcupet. It's a baby porcupine, also known as a porcupet. That is a baby prehensile tailed porcupine born at the Fort Worth Zoo. Look at that little baby. They were born with soft red hair, much like you, Jesse. So it hasn't grown its quills yet. The only way to tell if it's male or female is through a DNA test, much like an Olympic boxer.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, I have a new segment. It's called Settle this debate between me and Bill Hemmer. So this morning in a commercial break, he said something that I disagreed with. Okay, I'm gonna give you a phrase. Fill in the blank. Okay, the phrase is this. It doesn't pass the blank test.

[Jesse Watters]

Smell test.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Smell test.

[Lara Trump]

What does he say?

[Dana Perino]

He says smell. I said it's the sniff test. Miranda Devine said sniff test. He says, I think it's smell test. I think it's sniff test.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Sniff. No, I know the answer. You're married to a British sniff.

[Dana Perino]

And then original English wins. But I just lost.

[Lara Trump]

Anyway, they both have kind of the same meaning, so.

[Dana Perino]

They kind of do, but you're very kind.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That segment stinks.

[Dana Perino]

This is your first. First five. She's still nice.

[Lara Trump]

Yeah, I'm trying to be nice.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Bryce Bryson DeChambeau was seen practice some chip shots here at the White House with one of his favorite, if not favorite, presidents, President Trump. He's been a big supporter of the President's for a while. It's important to note that the White House put its first putting green in back in 1954 with President Eisenhower, but removed it under the Nixon administration. Then George H.W. bush brought it back. I like seeing the President and Bryson.

[Dana Perino]

Whoa, look at that camera work.

[Jesse Watters]

Looking good.

[Lara Trump]

All right, well, I live in Florida now, so this is very appropriate for me. Check out this alligator, seven feet long, that ended up in someone's pool. This is honestly my biggest fear. And this is the most Florida thing because you literally have a gator wrangler. I hope I never have to call one.

[Jesse Watters]

The gator was six, eleven and a half.

[Greg Gutfeld]

This is Jimmy Falla inviting you to join me BE for FOX Across America where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats dumb ideas. Just kidding. It's only a three hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica. Com. Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.