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Jesse Waters
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Sandra Smith
Been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Hello everyone, I'm Sandra Smith along with Katie Pavlich, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It is five o' clock in New York City and this is all right, well, questions are mounting over former President Joe Biden's shocking stage four prostate cancer diagnosis, which has aggressively spread to his bones. While we wish the former president well, a key ally of the Obama administration is asking why it wasn't caught sooner.
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Greg Gutfeld
He did not develop it in the last hundred, two hundred days. He had it while he was president. He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021. Yes, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.
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Sandra Smith
So the shocking cancer diagnosis follows a brutal week for President, former President Biden as a new book and the release of the awaited her tapes exposed. More troubling, the media are already suggesting the cancer diagnosis might earn the former President a little breathing room from all the scrutiny.
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Greg Gutfeld
Those conversations are going to happen, but they should be more muted and set aside for now as he's struggling through this.
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Harold Ford Jr.
It seems to me, Jessica, this debate.
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Jesse Waters
Doesn'T end at all.
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Harold Ford Jr.
But it is briefly put on pause as a result of today's news.
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Sandra Smith
But the her audio release continues to reverberate as Democrats and the media try to learn lessons from the COVID up.
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Greg Gutfeld
And that is a crime against this republic. And I think the Democrats are going to pay for a long time for.
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Katie Pavlich
Being a part of what is now.
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Greg Gutfeld
Being revealed to be a massive cover up. We need to apologize to the American people that we were part of something that wasn't on the up and up.
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Katie Pavlich
But ultimately, in retrospect, you can't defend what the Democratic Party did because we are stuck with a madman with a corrupt president in the Oval Office, and we should have given ourselves a better chance to win.
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Jesse Waters
Hindsight is 20 20. Obviously, if we could redo this tape.
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Katie Pavlich
And play it over again, we would do things differently.
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Greg Gutfeld
It's hard to convince somebody to give.
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Sandra Smith
Up their car keys. Yeah, Jesse, we all wish the former president well. I mean, it's just absolutely awful for any family to learn this about their loved one. But there's a lot, it seems, that we are learning in the last 24 hours. A lot, it seems that perhaps we didn't know along the way. What do you make of all this?
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Jesse Waters
Well, first, my heart goes out to the Bidens and the Biden family. Very unfortunate diagnosis, and we hope he beats it. But a lot of people are speculating whether this was medical malpractice or whether this was a medical cover up. And we have every right to speculate because they have been caught in so many lies now. So the medical cover up is not being said by Jesse Waters. It's being said all over the media, by Democrats and by physicians. They're saying that this was caught possibly earlier and then nothing was released and then possibly exposed as a way to blunt the impact of the her report, audio release and the book. Now, I don't think that's possible, but at this point, anything's possible. The, the other one is the medical malpractice. How are you not going to give a guy a PSA test? How are you not going to give someone a test and then not release the results? Did they not give this test to Joe Biden? Because they gave it to the last three presidents and then they released the PSA numbers. So who knows if he even got tested. He was supposed to have had a full test a year ago, and they said there was no cancer detected. Well, we need to know exactly what tests they did. And since 2000, Joe Biden has broken his foot. He's had skin cancer, he has had two horrible bouts with COVID 19. And then he was living as president with prostate cancer. And the entire media said he was healthy as an ox and that they said he was running circles around Binder. And so this Dr. O' Connor was his personal physician. There's a. A funny axiom that says, you know, having a personal physician 247 around the clock is a leading indicator of death. A lot of celebrities, a lot of wealthy individuals have these doctors on call, and they kind of give you anything, and they're just there to protect the brand, there to protect the status and the job. That happens with some people. But this guy o' Connor takes it to a next level. This guy was brought in from Delaware, and he was in business with the Biden family. And it was this oldest president in American history, probably the sickest sitting president of this century. And he never gave a press conference in four years. O' Connor never came to the press and said, this is what the president is dealing with. That is, he needs to be brought in, he needs to be subpoenaed, and he needs to answer some of these questions. I can't believe if he had won, Joe Biden would have died in office and Kamala would have been president, and the doctors in the media would have been like, oops, sorry we missed it.
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Katie Pavlich
Wow.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Wow.
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Sandra Smith
Well, Howard, there are multiple experts who have lined up in the wake of this news to say, you know, it would be shocking that this kind of cancer wasn't noticed during recent checkups, that it had to have been developing for quite some time. Howard Forman, Yale Law School, Yale Medical School. It's inconceivable that this was not being followed before he left the presidency. Urologist David Shusterman says it's insanely unlikely someone who gets annual checkups would not have noticed this developing cancer.
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Katie Pavlich
So my prayers, like yours, Jesse, go out to his family. This is a tough diagnosis. I have friends and family who have this, who've had the diagnosis, and I can only imagine a tough struggle and a tough road ahead. I align with Jesse on this. I think that the fact that the president of the United States is not getting as exhaustive of a review of a physical, the kind of medical examination one would expect, and then to have all of that revealed to the public in 2025, 25 years into the 21st century. You combine that with some of the things that we. People were saying about President Biden throughout his presidency, questioning the cognitive abilities, some of the mental health abilities, and then the physical things that happened when he fell down, fell up the stairs, down the stairs, off his bike. We deserve better. I hope what we really learned from this. I'm not one to look backwards, although I pray for him. I hope that what we do going forward is to ask these doctors and physicians just, we ought to have a different standard for all of this. When you think about the president's role of growing the economy, keeping the country safe, we're in basically a new economic cold war with China and Russia is emerging again. We need to know everything about our president. And this shouldn't be by chance by any measure. I don't. I listen to Dr. Emanuel. He's far brighter than I am and more experienced, more educated than I am in these matters. I do have a dear friend whose wife got a stage 4 cancer diagnosis very late. They had not seen it before, and she had had an injury and got the diagnosis and passed about a year later. So these things, I imagine, can happen. But when you are the President of the United States, with the kind of care the president should get, we should not be surprised by these things. But I'm like you, my thoughts and prayers are with he and his family. I know this road ahead is going to be. Is going to be a difficult one.
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Sandra Smith
And again, we wish him the absolute best. Greg, is it fair for some in the media, including David Axelrod now, to be saying that we should set aside any talk about the cognitive cover up during his presidency as he battles this.
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Greg Gutfeld
Cancer, that when they say something like that, you have to believe that that's the reason why they're breaking the news now? So you do mute and you do pause. The timing is telling you that this cancer is being used as a tool to deflect from outrage to sympathy. But get this, normal human beings, we can have both. We can feel sad for somebody who has cancer. Like Harold said, we all know people intimately who are. Who have cancer, who, who are dying from cancer and who will die of cancer. So we could feel sad. But that's not gonna infringe on the space in my brain that is reserved and dedicated to this cover up of his incapacitation. So you're not gonna get a mute or a pause from me, but nice try. We're talking about, like, how could this happen? We've always been saying about all of these problems in the last eight years. How did this happen? How did this happen? How did this happen? I say eight years because this has been going on before Biden was president. The neglect is on purpose. You know, we, for example, just focus on Joe Biden. The elder abuse line that we kept hearing. Why did it continue? Because Joe was docile and fragile and offering no resistance to any part of the progressive agenda. Joe's dysfunction may have been caused not by disability, but by debility, meaning he was worn down on purpose, deliberately kept feeble and weak, which made him pliable like a pow. Except the W stands for White House. Joe's dysfunction was not prevented when it could have been, because it kept him Easily managed. He was always tired. He probably didn't want to answer questions or sign things. So we've seen a series of colossal blunders and deliberate cover ups. All are ethically indefensible. All you can do if you're doing this stuff is tell yourself, consider the alternative. And the alternative to them was always Trump. That was their narrative. Like, they can cover up this guy who's physically and mentally feeble because look at the other guy, it's Trump. So Trump is in an existential threat. That narrative became justification for every kind of immoral behavior, including allowing violence, the implosion of a border, cover ups, blatant, blatant illegal activity, siding with gang bangers up to now, Hamas sympathizers. You can approve of anything if you sell people the belief, you assign the opinion that Trump is an existential risk. They knew about all this stuff. They covered it up.
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Sandra Smith
Well, we did see the media having to deal with the her. The release of the her audio and the her tape today, in what appears to be the many stages of coping, Katie Van Jones said that Democrats will pay for covering up Biden's decline for a, quote, long time.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah, because this is a total betrayal of the American people. This is about breaking of trust. And it's very difficult to get it back once it's been broken. Now, in politics, trust can be a relative term because of the industry that you're dealing with. Dealing with. But they covered up thing after thing after thing. And then when the American people who are part of this republic democratic process, were allowed to ask questions about the President of the United States who was elected, they were told that they were crazy, that they were mean people for questioning the President's cognitive state, that they weren't empathetic. And now you're seeing that happening again with David Axelrod saying, well, we can't really talk about it anymore. And the implication there is that if you dare to ask questions about the betrayal from the Biden White House, from the Democrats as a whole, then you're just not an empathetic person. You don't understand when people get diagnosed with cancer, when it's really a bigger issue of what's been going on for the last couple of years, I don't know how they get out of this. Because in order to regain the trust that they've lost, you have to be very transparent overwhelmingly. And yet they're still doubling down on covering up and not talking about it. So politically for them, it's very difficult for them to go out and say you can trust us and believe us when we're talking about things that we'll do for you, when they can't even come to terms with the fact that this was obvious for years, the White House doctor not coming out to give press conferences, not answering any questions. I went back through all of the letters that the White House doctor put out. Not a single mention of this. And also, it's kind of a betrayal to the president. I mean, how did you not, if this is what they weren't doing, give someone of that age, the president of the United States, that kind of physical test? I mean, how could you not give the test?
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Sandra Smith
Those questions will be asked for a long time. Many people watching right now go out and get those tests on a regular basis. Katie, thank you for that. Up next, Hillary Clinton and Tim Walls taking aim at President Trump with some really wild accusations.
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Harold Ford Jr.
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Sandra Smith
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Harold Ford Jr.
To families and communities for over a century and continues to be a powerful economic contributor. Since 2017, Disney has nearly doubled spending on film and television content and is spending $23 billion in fiscal year 2025. The company has also grown its U.S. workforce by nearly 20,000, employing 160,000 people across all 50 states. And with more than 30 billion in investments in U.S. parks, Disney is creating nearly 10,000 jobs. Explore Disney's impact at the Walt disneycompany.com economic-impact well, the losers of Democrats past refused to go quietly. Hillary Clinton and Tim Waltz are back, not with solutions for the country or their party, but with a full blown case of tds, Kamala's failed veep kicking things off, using a college graduation speech to smear ICE agents with a truly despicable comparison.
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Greg Gutfeld
Donald Trump's modern day Dyscopo is scooping folks up off the streets. They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons. No chance to mount a defense, not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye. Just grabbed up by masked agents, shoved into those vans and disappeared.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Not to be outdone, Hillary Clinton is also running her mouth about the popular border policies. The man who beat her by mocking traditional American families, this very blatant effort.
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Sandra Smith
To basically send a message, most exemplified by Vance and Musk and others, that.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You know what we really need from you?
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Sandra Smith
Women are more children. Which is sort of odd because the people who produce the most children in.
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Katie Pavlich
Our country are immigrants and they want to deport them. So none of this adds up.
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Sandra Smith
First of all, don't be a handmaiden.
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Katie Pavlich
To the patriarchy.
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Sandra Smith
Which kind of eliminates every woman on the other side of the aisle except for very few.
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Harold Ford Jr.
All right, Greg, you want to talk about the Gestapo first or what?
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, I guess I could talk about Tim Waltz. Why? Why do people like Waltz only communicate through commencement addresses, right? Not podcasts. It's because they can only recite their boilerplate opinions in arenas where there's no risk of a follow up question. It's like JD Vance just mopped the floor with him when he actually was faced with someone asking him stuff. The moment you say, what do you mean by that? Or do you have proof that they're like the Gestapo, they will implode. This is why lefties always get all the commencement addresses. And they love to spout their opinions on award shows because they know there's no journalists there that will ask them a question and the reason why. And he's the perfect example. None of their opinions are actually real. They are all assigned. So there's just a folksy glibness, but underneath it, there is nothing. And they never have to have that challenge because the people around them never say, hey, what do you mean by that? There is no contemplation. You can always tell when somebody's telling you something that is not their own opinion. You do it all the time. Jesse, you know what's a perfect example? A perfect example is like me insulting Nickelback. And I've never heard their songs, but I make fun of Nickelback, but it's only because I've heard other people make fun of it. That's an assigned opinion. You look at Hillary, she uses the phrase, what was it? The. I wrote it down here, Handmaiden to the patriarchy, which I think she means she's bashing Monica Lewinsky. I'm not sure. But this only is appealing to an ever shrinking circle of feminist women, the same who bow to the altar of trans men and keep silent when real women are victimized by really bad men. But again, it's another assigned opinion that's lazily presented. Men against women, whether it's race or gender. As long as you pit one group against the other, they won't look up at you. And this is how the Democrat party survives is they want everybody to fight each other over their specific group rather than fight over an idea. Because once you look at the ideas, you leave the party, right?
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Harold Ford Jr.
And if you are in a group that they think should vote for Democrats and you stray away, Sandra, then you get this kind of treatment. I mean, does Hillary Clinton want To comment on Susie Wiles, who is the first female chief of staff, the very pro mother administration that the Trump administration has put into place, that President Trump has hired all these young women to work for him who are doing a great job on the merits. I mean, for her to say, you can't be holding the hand of the patriarchy was just a shot at any woman who decides she doesn't want the same path as Hillary.
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Sandra Smith
What stuck out to me was the eliminating women comment as I interviewed the father of a seventh grader today, a seventh grade girl who was put out of metal contention running in her 200 meter race on the track against a biological boy. And it took this suburban father to take to the national airwaves to bring attention to the matter because people like Hillary Clinton are not. As far as Tim Walls is concerned, he's got a captive audience when it comes to the graduation speeches. I mean, if it were up to him, I think we'd see him all over the place. I think Democrats might be holding back on. But if you look at the last election and you look at the response he gets when he gets out, the Republicans should probably be happy that he keeps himself out there in the forefront. But Hillary Clinton's words, it got me today talking to, watching that girl not be able to get a third place finish because she has to race against a boy.
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Greg Gutfeld
Jesse, I'm just getting word from the producers. Tim Waltz has stage four jazz hands.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Oh, wow. I heard that's lethal.
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Katie Pavlich
Yes.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Jesse, don't you just love paying tens of thousands of dollars for your kid to go to college? And then you go to the graduation finally, and you get a lecture like this, isn't it just the best?
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Jesse Waters
Yeah, I mean, I could. I'd fall asleep with Tampon. Talk to me. And he won't. I've invited him on like twice and he still dodging.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Bummer.
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Jesse Waters
So Tampon's career is over. Katie, you can't call ICE agents Nazis. That is a career ender. Federal law enforcement officials are Nazis. And this is coming from the guy that had a Covid snitch line. This is coming from the guy that fantasizes over communist China, which is a little more in line with those other people that he mentioned. If you have a face tattoo and you have criminal convictions in this country and you're a foreign national and you get picked up, I don't want a lawyer. I don't want an appeal. I want you. Adios. Goodbye. And if he thinks they should stay in here while they fight through the Legal system? No, absolutely not. Now, Hillary, she thinks it's virtuous to have the entire Third World in Latin America break through the border right before their water break and then have a baby at an American hospital without health insurance and then just raise the kid in a hotel room in Midtown while we pay for it? Absolutely not. We want more babies. Everybody wants more babies. Because if you don't have them, it's basic arithmetic, Katie. You go bankrupt first, and then the civilization collapses. And all the policies the left are pushing is contributing to the decline of civilization, whether it's porn, cannabis, rapid urbanization, rapid industrialization, high mortgage rates. All of these things are making it impossible to have children and raise children. I just feel bad for Chelsea Clinton. That's who I love mostly at these times.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'm sure you're really.
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Jesse Waters
And Bill, she didn't choose to be born.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah. All right. So, Carol, do you think it's time to say adios, goodbye? Hillary and Tim, are you tired of talking about them like you're ready to move on to new people?
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Katie Pavlich
I've been critical of my party over the last several months for the way we have handled the aftermath of the election. You look at, just as a juxtaposition, you look at several of the special elections that have been held since November. Democrats have fared somewhat well, I think, largely because those Democrats running are actually in the country. You just recently had a mayor in Nebraska, in Omaha, a Republican, a Democrat beat them. They're not tapping into this Democratic message. The autopsy the Democrats need, that lays out, that tries to lay out and determine why we lost, how we lost. No one has seriously done it at the federal level. So as a result, you have free agents like Mr. Walts. And when I say free agents, they're known political figures, Obviously, Senator Clinton is a known. Secretary Clinton is a known political figure. But they're not saying things with any coordination or symmetry. And for that matter, they don't sound as if they're really in touch with the things that happen. You talked about the transgender athlete. That's an issue that we, as Democrats, if we don't get serious about and realistic about and credible on, we're not going to be listened to on other issues that are credible and meaningful in people's lives. And until you understand where the path is and what the issues are, they're going to push us forward. You're going to continue to hear these voices, these free agent voices out here talking in really kind of a diasporic and, frankly, unorganized and really ineffective way about the things that people care about. My advice, if you can't do it at the federal level, the autopsy, at least listen to what those who are winning in these special elections in the state races, races, the local races, what are they saying that's appealing to everyday Americans in a broad cross section of the country? But until you get an autopsy, until you figure out and we all understand and get the painful lessons, you're going to continue to show these kind of silly bits. I'm have to sit up here and respond to this nonsense.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I think that's good advice from Harold who would like you to move on. Thank you. All right, up next, Democrats are going ballistic over the big beautiful bill and Americans are finally keeping more of their hard earned cash.
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Greg Gutfeld
Me, I know that last night we.
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Sandra Smith
Let the liquor talk.
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Katie Pavlich
I can't remember everything we said, but we said it all.
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Jesse Waters
You told me that life happens.
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Harold Ford Jr.
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Greg Gutfeld
Oh, wow. Fox News alert. Trump reacting just moments ago to the shocking cancer diagnosis of former President Joe Biden. Watch. Very, very sad situation.
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Jesse Waters
And I feel very badly about it.
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Greg Gutfeld
And I think people should try and find out what happened because I'll tell you, the walt, I don't know if it had anything to do with the hospital. Walter Reed is really good. There's some of the best doctors I've ever seen. I don't even know if they were involved, but a doctor was involved in each case. Maybe it was the same doctor and somebody is not telling the facts. That's a big, that's a big problem. Meanwhile, Democrats are ripping President Trump's big beautiful bill after it cleared a hurdle in a late night vote and poised for a larger vote on Wednesday. This spending bill is terrible and I think the American people know that.
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Jesse Waters
I made a very simple case that the Republican budget is not going to help working class folks.
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Katie Pavlich
This budget bill is an absolute disaster. It is going to kick over 10 million people off of their health care. These guys are running the economy recklessly because all they care about is the health of the Mar a Lago billionaire class.
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Greg Gutfeld
So Harold, the Dems think this is A terrible bill, but they think it's a terrible bill for the wrong reason. It's not a great bill because we're in a fiscal crisis and we aren't acting like it. We need to cut, cut, cut. And I think we're adding 2.5 trillion to the debt. Is that correct?
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Katie Pavlich
I think it's a little more than that. That's what the forecast.
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Greg Gutfeld
But they're mad because they're cutting. We're not adding more.
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Katie Pavlich
So I think a couple things. You and I agree on this for a slightly different reason. To give some sense, there's no doubt this bill here is the forecast, the single largest increase forecasted on in debt pressure of any bill that's ever been considered. Two in the last 10 years. To your point about the spending cuts, to put some perspective, and you talked about population growth, Jesse, in the last segment in a different context. But our national debt has grown by 98%. That's just round up to 100%. So it's doubled in the last 10 years. Our population, however, has only grown 5% and tax collections have gone up 60%. So there's no doubt for Democrats who think we should just tax everybody, you can't do that. You have to cut spending. And for those who say we should not think about raising taxes on the ultra rich in the country, I give you this number. The 10 richest Americans. When you combine their net worth, their worth almost $1.9 trillion. I don't begrudge wealth, but our entire discretionary budget, which is anything but defense, Social Security, Medicare and interest on the debt is only 1.9 trillion. So you have 10 people with that net worth. I'm not a believer that we should overtax people, but I definitely believe we shouldn't overtax working people, middle class and poor people in the country. The President has said that tariffs are an answer. Jesse and I have had some beautiful, big brawling conversations about this. Tariffs largely impact the middle class and po. Why? Because so much of their income is used to buy things and consume things. Tax cuts. As much as the President and Republicans want to say this tax bill extending these things are going to help middle class Americans. The vast majority of people are going to be helped by the tax cuts. Are the wealthiest? Because there's one other number. Over the last 12 years, the S&P has gone up almost 400%. And the only way to benefit from the stock market is if you have money invested in the stock market. And you have to have a lot for that to benefit you. So I say to Democrats, you have to cut spending. I say to Republicans, stop kidding Americans, that you're not raising, that you're not cutting taxes for the richest Americans. Why not raise taxes on those earning 2.5 million or more to pay for these things? So we may differ a little bit, but one thing we agree on, the debt is not going to go down because of this. And the people are going to benefit the most are not middle class, working class Americans. There's going to be some people around this table and people much richer.
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Greg Gutfeld
All right, Bernie Sanders. So, Katie, there is no tax on tip. I mean, I don't think that's helping billionaires and trillionaires.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No taxes on overtime for police officers, for example. No taxes on Social Security, lots of tax breaks. If this does not pass, it would be the largest tax hike you've ever seen in American history, which is key. So there's lots of components to this. Harold's talking about the CBO score. You should throw that out the window because it doesn't calculate Extra taxes that are paid once you get more of your money back and you put it back into the economy. Doesn't account for regulatory growth and what that cost companies. You talk about people who have large net. Well, net worth. Well, yeah, those are tight. Their worth is tied up in big companies. They don't just have cash that they can just give to the government unless the companies go away. Tesla and Twitter being an example of that. Amazon. The White House today is pushing out a number of statements from all kinds of different constituencies. The Uber CEO, DoorDash CEO, Americans for Prosperity, Airlines for America, Numbers USA. These are all different groups or businesses that have different stakes in this bill, whether it's illegal immigration, travel, the economy, all those things. So they think that this bill is good for their own constituencies. And it's diverse. So that's why they're. They're pushing that out. And if it doesn't pass, Republicans won't have this opportunity yet because they have full control of Washington, D.C. which is what reconciliation is.
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Katie Pavlich
Raise taxes on people earning 5 million or more to pay for the tax. No taxes. I want all of that.
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Harold Ford Jr.
The government is taking in more money today than it ever has in the history of the country. More spending and more taxing will not get that to an economic growth model.
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Katie Pavlich
You got to do both.
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Greg Gutfeld
Sandra, what did you say?
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Sandra Smith
But if you don't extend the 2017 tax cuts, you're raising taxes on essentially everybody.
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Katie Pavlich
I don't disagree, but I don't think you should. You should raise it on, Lord, on the people who need it most is all I'm saying.
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Sandra Smith
He is targeting some of those people. Then taxes on tips, the overtime wages that Katie mentioned as well. Also they want to direct a lot of this money, billions in fact, to immigration enforcement after the crisis that we all just lived through of the past few years. Just one last point on the tariffs because there's a lot of fear mongering over this similar to the tariffs. What I don't hear Democrats talking about right now. They love to talk about the drop in the stock market as fear built over the tariffs. And now the stock market has not only built back, rallied back, all the losses since Liberation Day, it's now higher than when they even announced those tariffs to begin with. And I don't hear a peep from Democrats.
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Katie Pavlich
Well, it's because they reverse the tariffs. That's why. That's why the market's behaving like it is.
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Jesse Waters
No, not all of them. You know there's a little box on your tax return, Harold, that you can check and you can voluntarily pay more. Have you ever done that?
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Katie Pavlich
I followed the Trump model. I only pay what I have to pay.
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Jesse Waters
Okay, so you just want to make sure everybody has to pay more taxes under the threat of the IRS coming to your house with guns. But if you wanted to be so generous and kind cuz you think you want to save the country, you can do it. You don't. Can I make one point please, Jesse? I want to make a point about Medicare. Stop falling asleep. Oh God, I almost had you. They keep on saying you're going to cut Medicare for these people. You know what they're doing. If you're a young, able bodied, healthy American man, 26 years old, old, you don't even want to go to work. You can get on Medicaid. Medicaid, it's blowing a hole in the budget thanks to Barack Obama. You can live at your parents house, play softball on the weekend, sell ecstasy on the side, not even look for a job I like. And you can get free health care. That's what they're doing. They're just closing that lazy loophole.
- [32:05]
Greg Gutfeld
Why did you like the ads to selling the ecstasy?
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Jesse Waters
I had to make Medicaid interesting.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Why did you choose softball or baseball?
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Katie Pavlich
Katie, all I say is pay for it and give. Give working people the tax cuts. Not the richest. All right, we get it.
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Sandra Smith
Thank you, Howard.
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Greg Gutfeld
Jeez, Mr. Daily Worker over here. Up next, President Trump smacks the boss around.
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Katie Pavlich
This river.
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Jesse Waters
The boss loves to talk smack about 47 while on foreign soil, Bruce Springsteen accusing President Trump of running a rogue government and siding with dictators. But offstage, the so called dried out prune is singing a whole different tune. Bruce, what's your message for Trump? Bruce, thank you for gracious, but President Trump is showing Springsteen, whose boss calling for a major investigation into Bruce and his liberal celeb friends who he says got paid millions to fawn over Kamala during the 2024 campaign. Greg, do you support a federal investigation into all celebrities?
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Greg Gutfeld
Yes, I think they should be flown to El Salvador. I don't know about, about these people being paid because they don't seem like they need the money. They're into the status and the relevance to feel important without actually putting in the work. This again is another example of an opinion being assigned. There's no difference in Springsteen's opinion from a Larry David or a Tim Waltz. They're all the same things that have been said about Trump. It's assigned to them. It's not original, I think. And, and Springsteen has a huge fear that if he were to meet Trump, he would like him, agree with him, and they would get along because that is what happens every time a rapper, a comedian, an actor meets Trump. It forces you to release these assigned opinions that you've been carrying around like rocks in your head. It sucks. But maybe put your ego aside. If you have these strong feelings about this guy and you're willing to talk about him on foreign soil, go to the White House like Bill Maher did. Meet him.
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Jesse Waters
We should have just Trump go to Hollywood for a rope line. Have every celebrity do a little thing. Now it looked like he was just playing his acoustic guitar. Sandra, does that deserve what, 500 grand to the E Street Band?
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Sandra Smith
I don't know. I just, I think that I have a feeling my friend Katie's gonna agree with me on this. But we all love to go to our concerts and take in our art and our music and our shows and we want the politics to be left out of it. And I don't know, I haven't heard reaction. I haven't heard reaction from the crowd cries over at my whole show. But I mean, have you heard from anyone who's like, I, you know, I loved that speech. I loved that he did that in the middle of this concert that I saved all my dollars for to come to this concert. I'm so glad he did. No, you haven't heard. Okay.
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Jesse Waters
It would be like me playing the flute during the five the whole time. People don't come to have me Play the flute.
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Katie Pavlich
Would you do that?
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Jesse Waters
No flute.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Or a recorder. You could have a whole band.
- [35:32]
Jesse Waters
Harold, what about you? What do you think?
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Katie Pavlich
Look, I agree with Sandra. I love Kid Rock. I love ufc, I love. I love Chick Fil A. And they say their politics, all three of those entities and people, their politics may be different than mine. And I don't think about even when they say things that I know that are different than my politics. I wish that people, and I'm a Bruce Springsteen fan. I wish that people wouldn't go overseas and criticize the country. President Trump was a little guilty of it when he criticized Dana's old boss W for talking about nation building and how he said we're going to get away from all that. He can have those views but just don't do it overseas. And I hope.
- [36:05]
Greg Gutfeld
Didn't it Bush by name.
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Katie Pavlich
He basically did. But he certainly, I mean he essentially said our policies of nation building and telling you what to do we're going to. And spreading democracy in those ways we're going to get away from. He has every right to those opinions. I just wish you wouldn't do. I wish no one would do that when you're on, when you're not on American soil. And you know, I don't necessarily disagree. I think people who meet the president like him. I think the president finds himself agreeing with people he meets and the people he meets finds themselves find themselves agreeing with him a little bit more. And that's called in my book bipartisanship and common sense and people coming together to try to solve problems.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Or the uniparty or yes, something like that. Or the uniparty. I don't know. I find it. Not only did he criticize overseas, but he's standing in a country where they lock people up and put them in jail for hurting people's feelings on the Internet while he's claiming that America and the Trump administration is the problem. So just a little rich in irony there.
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Katie Pavlich
Yeah.
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Jesse Waters
All right.
- [36:58]
Katie Pavlich
Yeah.
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Jesse Waters
Up next, a finger death grip among world powers.
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Katie Pavlich
Talk is cheap when it comes to saving. I'm trying to give you welcome back. Is the ultimate alpha male move of finger flex. Watch. Is Turkey's president giving French President Macron's finger a death grip, refusing to let go for a few seconds before finally releasing it. The two world leaders were at a political summit in Albania. He still got that. What do you think about this, Katie? Is this something surprised when Crown did.
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Harold Ford Jr.
To bring his little white flag to let go, like waving it around? Please, sir, surrender exclamation point.
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Katie Pavlich
What do you. Is this a way.
- [37:47]
Greg Gutfeld
This is distraction edited because you. We edited it. We left out the part where Macron comes in.
- [37:52]
Sandra Smith
He goes.
- [37:55]
Greg Gutfeld
I dare you to pull my finger. And then he pulls his finger. And then you hear the loudest fart you've ever heard. They literally had to clear the room. It was disgusting. It was so bad. Macron's wife got up and left, but not before giving Erdogan a good right hook.
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Katie Pavlich
Now, do you think that maybe the president of Turkey was asking Sandra for if indeed they do, the peace summit between Ukraine and Russia, the Vatican that he can be there with, because Macron will probably be there.
- [38:23]
Sandra Smith
But watch this. So then, okay, so then he has a few fingers. Okay. And then it goes down to one. I think he's like finishing a point and he's pulling on him. So weird. I just watched this like a third time.
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Katie Pavlich
But he's not talking, he's just nodding his head, it looks like.
- [38:35]
Sandra Smith
So, I don't know, then prime time.
- [38:38]
Katie Pavlich
You covering this tonight?
- [38:39]
Jesse Waters
No, no, the situation is this, Harold. Men like to touch other guys. We just like touch.
- [38:45]
Greg Gutfeld
Is that true?
- [38:45]
Jesse Waters
We like to touch them like this.
- [38:46]
Sandra Smith
You know, I like about that Jesse.
- [38:48]
Greg Gutfeld
At the Planet Fitness Sauna, Jesse, where I saw you.
- [38:51]
Jesse Waters
And then politicians, the guys love to touch guys. They're like, oh, you know, it's all the thing. But then when you're old, when you're old, you can get away with more stuff. And then when you're Turkish, sky's the limit. People are like, maybe it's a cultural thing. You know, they do things differently down there.
- [39:10]
Katie Pavlich
Walmart's raising prices. One More Thing is up next.
- [39:14]
Sandra Smith
Take me to the next place, baby.
- [39:17]
Katie Pavlich
Take me, take my soul to the next place. They've ruined our economy.
- [39:27]
Sandra Smith
All right, it is time now for One More thing. Greg.
- [39:30]
Greg Gutfeld
Thanks, Shelley. Tonight we got a great show. Guy Benson, Julie Banderas, Jim Norton Kennedy. That's tonight. Hey, let's do this. In your face, Harold.
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Katie Pavlich
Yeah, Harold.
- [39:43]
Greg Gutfeld
You don't have a nickname. Well, this Harold the Chihuahua is known as Handsome Harold. He is at. For a chihuahua that's a 10. You know, he was adopted at Fawn's Small Dog Rescue. It's really nice when you hear about a 10 year old Chihuahua being adopted. He enjoys relaxing, much like you, Harold, and he bonds with people quickly. Unlike you, Howard.
- [40:05]
Katie Pavlich
He goes by Howard.
- [40:08]
Sandra Smith
Oh, my gosh, I'm never going to live that down. All right, Jesse Plebs.
- [40:12]
Jesse Waters
No more midshipmen at the U.S. naval Academy. You're going to love this. Conquered the Herndon climb in Annapolis. Long standing tradition. They work together to ascend a greased up 21 foot monument. Greg.
- [40:25]
Katie Pavlich
Wow.
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Jesse Waters
And swap a white hat already on top with an upperclassman's hat. It's slathered with 200 pounds of vegetable shortening and they are sprayed with water the whole time. Took 2 hours 27 minutes 31 seconds to climb it. Amazing feat of strength tonight. Jesse Waters primetime comey doubles down.
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Sandra Smith
Harold.
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Katie Pavlich
Friday night at the Garden was big. The Knicks made history. First time in 25 years. Headed to the Eastern conference finals. Beat their arch rival, our arch rival, the Celtics. The fans had a ball. They poured into the streets taking over parts of 7th Avenue, climbing polls, celebrating the win. Game 1 versus Indiana is Wednesday night. We still got a ways to go, but go Nicks. Okay.
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Sandra Smith
Sandra. Back in 1946, Harvard Law School purchased what it thought was a cheap copy of the Magna Carta for 27 bucks. Turns out the school's copy is a rare issue of the iconic British document and could be worth millions. The original Magna Carta was written in 1215 and served as a great influence on many of America's own founding documents. Like the Constitution.
- [41:28]
Greg Gutfeld
I love it.
- [41:29]
Sandra Smith
What a bargain.
- [41:30]
Harold Ford Jr.
That's great, Katie. Thank you for that historical report, Sandra. All right. Talk about raising the roof. Literally. In Belgium, an inline skater caught major error during a competition. End up kicking the ceiling mid flipped. Brian Altman's hit the ramp like a rocket, soared sky high and then met the ceiling in an unexpected plot twist. But he's okay. Just a bump to his head and of course to his ego. But maybe they need to raise the ceiling for tricks like that.
- [41:56]
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, there you go, Greg.
- [41:58]
Harold Ford Jr.
You skateboard, right?
- [41:59]
Greg Gutfeld
I skateboard to work.
- [42:01]
Sandra Smith
I thought so.
- [42:01]
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, that's right. I skateboard holding orphans.
- [42:04]
Harold Ford Jr.
Wow.
- [42:04]
Greg Gutfeld
I don't skateboard. What do you think? What do you do? Sandra, thanks so much.
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Jesse Waters
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