The Five 06-27-2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five – June 27, 2025

Introduction Hosted by Katie Pavlich, alongside Kennedy, Jessica Tarlove, Jesse Watters, and Brian Kilmeade, "The Five" delves into the most pressing and controversial topics of the day. In the June 27, 2025 episode, the panelists focus primarily on recent Supreme Court decisions impacting President Trump's agenda, the administration's actions regarding Iran's nuclear program, and internal dynamics within the Democratic Party.

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1. Supreme Court's Decision on Nationwide Injunctions

The episode opens with Katie Pavlich announcing a significant Supreme Court ruling that curtails the use of nationwide injunctions against President Trump's policies.

• Katie Pavlich [00:04]: "The Supreme Court laying the smackdown on rogue judges who think they know better than the 77 million Americans who voted for President Trump's agenda."

The panel celebrates the decision, highlighting its broad implications for various Trump-backed initiatives.

• Jesse Watters [00:47]: "This was a colossal abuse of power which never occurred in American history prior to recent decades... including birthright citizenship, ending sanctuary city funding, suspending refugee resettlement, freezing unnecessary funding, stopping federal taxpayers from paying for transgender surgeries."

Notable Quote:

• Jesse Watters [00:47]: "We have so many of them. I have a whole list."

2. Impact on Trump’s Agenda and Media Reaction

The discussion shifts to the anticipated implementation of policies now unimpeded by judicial interventions and the expected backlash from liberal media and Democrats.

• Katie Pavlich [01:22]: "But naturally, the liberal media and Democrats are melting down over the loss of their favorite tool to stop the Trump agenda."

Notable Quote:

• Brian Kilmeade [02:42]: "The Trump resistance is officially dead. This was the only thing that was slowing this down."

3. Supreme Court Ruling on Religious Parents and Education

At [01:48], Katie Pavlich introduces another Supreme Court decision favorable to religious parents wishing to exclude certain storybooks from their children's education.

• Jesse Watters [02:07]: "It's a great ruling for parents. It's really a ruling for parents... And this is a tremendous victory for parents."

4. Critique of Supreme Court Justices and Judicial Overreach

The panel criticizes Supreme Court Justices, particularly Amy Coney Barrett, for perceived incompetence and ideological bias.

• Brian Kilmeade [03:05]: "They’re calling her a nitwit... you're just making stuff up."

Notable Quote:

• Brian Kilmeade [03:05]: "Look back at the Biden legacy, he gave us Kamala Harris and he gave us Justice Jackson, and you gotta look and say, wow, what a bad move."

5. Executive Orders and Constitutional Originalism

Kennedy emphasizes the importance of adhering to the Constitution's original text and cautions against executive overreach by liberal presidents.

• Kennedy [04:37]: "They should be really careful... conservatives have to be very, very careful... originalism and adhering to the text of the Constitution as it was written."

Notable Quote:

• Kennedy [04:37]: "They could just take every Other aspect they don't like, you know that Third Amendment, quartering soldiers."

6. Future of Nationwide Injunctions and Class Actions

The conversation explores the possibility of Democrats shifting strategies from nationwide injunctions to class action lawsuits following the Supreme Court's ruling.

• Unknown Speaker [05:56]: "Jessica, your name was mentioned... class action approach to the idea that it is Democrats that only use that it's blatantly false."

Notable Quote:

• Unknown Speaker [05:56]: "Amy Coney Barrett said the type of border office called nationwide injunction is judicial overreach."

7. President Trump's Actions on Iran's Nuclear Program

Transitioning to international affairs, the panel discusses President Trump's military strike on Iran's nuclear sites and the ensuing political fallout.

• Unknown Speaker [11:29]: "Democrats keep claiming Trump is lying about obliterating Iran's nuclear facilities."

Notable Quote:

• Jesse Watters [12:18]: "It's been obliterated. It would be years before they could ever get going."

8. Internal Struggles Within the Democratic Party

The panel critiques the Democratic Party's strategies and leadership, suggesting internal divisions and ineffective responses to recent political challenges.

• Brian Kilmeade [22:12]: "The Democrat dumpster fire just got soaked in socialist gasoline... housing policy document... shift the tax burden to richer and whiter neighborhoods."

Notable Quote:

• Brian Kilmeade [27:00]: "They are sending them a handwritten invitation to leave the city."

9. Additional Discussions and Closing Remarks

The episode touches on various other topics, including safety in construction and local traffic stops, before concluding with lighter banter among the panelists.

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Conclusion The June 27, 2025 episode of "The Five" presents a robust discussion centered around judicial decisions favoring President Trump's policies, critiques of the Supreme Court's recent actions, and the Democratic Party's internal challenges. The panelists express strong support for the administration's moves and skepticism towards opposing political forces, maintaining the show's characteristic blend of debate and commentary.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Jesse Watters [00:47]: "This was a colossal abuse of power which never occurred in American history prior to recent decades."

• Brian Kilmeade [02:42]: "The Trump resistance is officially dead. This was the only thing that was slowing this down."

• Jesse Watters [02:07]: "It's a great ruling for parents. It's really a ruling for parents."

• Brian Kilmeade [03:05]: "They’re calling her a nitwit... you're just making stuff up."

• Kennedy [04:37]: "They should be really careful... conservatives have to be very, very careful... originalism and adhering to the text of the Constitution as it was written."

• Unknown Speaker [05:56]: "Amy Coney Barrett said the type of border office called nationwide injunction is judicial overreach."

• Jesse Watters [12:18]: "It's been obliterated. It would be years before they could ever get going."

• Brian Kilmeade [27:00]: "They are sending them a handwritten invitation to leave the city."

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, introductory segments, and other non-content portions of the podcast to focus solely on the substantive discussions.

Transcript

[Katie Pavlich]

Hello, everyone. I'm Katie Pavlich along with Kennedy, Jessica Tarlove, Jesse Watters, and Brian Kilmeade. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five. The Supreme Court laying the smackdown on rogue judges who think they know better than the 77 million Americans who voted for President Trump's agenda. The top court with a 6 to 3 decision that limits the use of nationwide injunctions. As you can see from this graphic, Trump is the MVP compared to other presidents when it comes to nationwide injunctions. 47. Taking a victory lap in the briefing room and listing all the things he's now free to implement.

[Jesse Watters]

This was a colossal abuse of power which never occurred in American history prior to recent decades. We can now properly filed to proceed with these numerous policies and those that have been wrongly enjoined on a nationwide basis, including birthright citizenship, ending sanctuary city funding, suspending refugee resettlement, freezing unnecessary funding, stopping federal taxpayers from paying for transgender surgeries, and numerous other priorities of the American people. We have so many of them. I have a whole list.

[Katie Pavlich]

But naturally, the liberal media and Democrats are melting down over the loss of their favorite tool to stop the Trump agenda.

[Jessica Tarlove]

This sounds like a giant win for.

[Kennedy]

The Trump administration and could likely trigger chaos now across the country. There are two things that are resulting.

[Brian Kilmeade]

From this chaos and confusion. Reckless and unprecedented.

[Kennedy]

They have dealt a death blow to the rule of law.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Presidency is far more powerful than it was.

[Katie Pavlich]

And 9:55am this morning, and another key decision, the Supreme Court also ruling in favor of religious parents of different faith backgrounds who wanted to opt their children out of reading storybooks that go against their beliefs. President Trump hailing that is a major victory for parents.

[Jesse Watters]

It's a great ruling for parents. It's really a ruling for parents. They lost control of the schools. They lost control of their child. And this is a tremendous victory for parents. And I'm not surprised by it, but I am surprised that it went this far. It took us to bring life back to normal. So it's a wonderful. It's parental. And I kept saying, we will give you back your parental rights. They were taken away. And this is a tremendous victory for parents.

[Katie Pavlich]

All right, Jesse. Chaos breaking out everywhere. According to the left, because of these rulings.

[Brian Kilmeade]

The Trump resistance is officially dead. This was the only thing that was slowing this down. It's no doubt a major body blow. All they have left are riots. The lawfare failed. These injunction maniacs failed. Weaponization failed. You can't be the party of lawyers. That's all they are. They're the party of lawyers. They're just going to have to start persuading people and legislating, you know, what they're supposed to be doing. And they also, when they lose cases like this, they lose the moral high ground because their entire message has been this, that Donald Trump's a tyrant and he's trampling on the Constitution and he's destroying everyone's rights and he's breaking the law. But it turns out when these rulings come down, it's the left that are breaking the law as they oppose Donald Trump. So this clears the way for all the goodies that Donald Trump just listed. I'm mostly enjoying Amy Coney Barrett just bench slap Justice Jackson in their brilliantly academic way. They're all calling her a nitwit, and we knew she was a nitwit because she couldn't define what a woman was. But they're basically saying, you're not in your dissents, grounding any of your arguments in case law. You're, you're just making stuff up. And every other justice agrees that this woman is just not qualified. And you look back at the Biden legacy, he gave us Kamala Harris and he gave us Justice Jackson, and you gotta look and say, wow, what a bad move.

[Katie Pavlich]

And Kennedy, not only are they just making things up and not basing it on case law, they're also being hypocritical because Elena Kagan, who's a justice to like this ruling two years ago, said you can't have a single district court judge stopping the agenda of a duly elected president across the country.

[Kennedy]

Yeah. And I wish it were a unanimous decision from the Supreme Court. And I don't like seeing these decisions fall along ideological lines because oftentimes, and it was, I believe it was Associate Justice Sotomayor who pointed out, you know, they should be really careful because when there are, when there is a leftist president, he will issue an executive order on guns. That's actually something that kind of terrifies me. And I think they made a point about being very careful of executive orders, trying to undo aspects of the Constitution. When this president and other Republicans always run on originalism and adhering to, to the text of the Constitution as it was written, not as they interpret it. Now, very subjectively, that's something that President Obama liked to do. That's something that Democrats are a little more fond of. And I think conservatives have to be very, very careful about that, because if this is the precedent that is set, then they'll just take every Other aspect they don't like, you know that Third Amendment, quartering soldiers.

[Katie Pavlich]

Watch out, they're going to all be in your house.

[Kennedy]

Navy fellas at your house here pretty soon.

[Katie Pavlich]

Jesse, you have a very big grocery bill. You very big grocery bill. But Brian, a lot of the strategy from the Trump administration with these executive orders is to push these issues like birthright citizenship to the Supreme Court and to actually get some clarification on things like the 14th amendment, for example. And as the president said today during his press briefing, he really feels like they can now move forward with his agenda that's been so impeded by these nationwide injunctions for the first five months of his second term.

[Unknown]

And don't you think, Katie, they do have to go and start doing something, pass legislation besides the president, when he gets done with the big beautiful bill, they should really actually do something. I thought it was interesting that out of the 64 injunctions that he's got in the first term, now at 45 in the next, 92% were Democratic appointed judges. So we're just cutting on ideological lines. Here's the thing. They could have done something almost as effective and said, can you stop picking the jurisdictions to bring the cases in and maybe make it a little bit more interesting? So if it's a Democratic judge, you bring your case to a city that will be sympathetic to your cause and you stop the president in his tracks, I'm going to see very it's going to be interesting because they're going to sign some more executive orders, they're going to give it to a district judge. That district judge, even though he hates Trump, will have to say, wait a second, the Supreme Court made a ruling? Or is he going to say, I'm stopping it right here. I'll let this whole thing play out. So maybe it's still going to be delayed. Lastly, Amy Coden Barrett, who was called out by the president a short time ago by saying, basically I picked the wrong person. She went after, as you mentioned, Jesse went after Ketanji Brown. We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself. And she goes on to say, when judges issue, when judges issue injunctions to block policies like those the Trump administration is trying to implement, they can't imply the injunction to more than the parties involved. But Barrett said the type of border office called nationwide injunction is judicial overreach. Just pointing out the problem with her reasoning. So we'll see where this goes. I cannot wait for birthright citizenship September to come front and center. Because if you argue this out from almost every level, it's being abused. Democrats should also not want to see it be abused.

[Katie Pavlich]

Well, the fact that the majority opinion had that line in there from Amy Coney Barrett, then they all didn't take it out, says a lot about the way they're feeling about their fellow justice. But Jessica, politically, where do Democrats go from here? I mean, a lot of their strategy was to use the court system to get these injunctions. And now that tool has been taken away from them.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Well, it hasn't been taken away from them because we're already back in court and federal court in Maryland. And the plaintiffs there had their suit ready to go. They knew exactly what was going to happen. And actually the majority opinion cleared the way for people to do this as class action. It won't have the same name, it won't be nationwide injunction, but it'll have the same ramifications. So Democrats, the party of lawyers ready to go, suited up, sent up the bat signal. At best, this is a compromise position. So we should be clear that the executive order, the protection for specific plaintiffs stays in place. So it's not like they're waking up tomorrow and they're going to get kicked out of the country. And again, then we have this class action approach to the idea that it is Democrats that only use that it's blatantly false. The reason that we don't have student debt forgiveness from President Biden is because the Republicans went and got a nationwide injunction. People like AG Ken Paxton in Texas, there's a judge in East Texas that he likes a lot that puts out injunctions for the entire nation. Super right wing guy. So let's not make this about partisan law.

[Katie Pavlich]

It's good they clarify that it shouldn't be used for either party.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Well, what's good, I guess is that they clarified that if you want to go and do this to protect people and give them their constitutional rights and the 14th amendment is pretty clear that you do it as a classic action suit, not an injunction in this way. But you know Trump, he takes a victory lap on absolutely everything that he does. It was to be expected. He loves the podium, spent an hour up there. But if you look at the example that's already being set, like I said in Maryland, you're going to see this happening all over the country. For every issue that he listed off, every 64 of them, I don't know about, you know, the love, violence, it.

[Unknown]

Would be just that case, Just the Maryland case. It won't be a precedent for the whole.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Right. But the class, the way that I understand it, and I'm not a lawyer, but I'm very literate, is that you don't have to have signatories. It can be an entire class of people. Obviously, it doesn't have to be everyone's name on it. So if they get a protection for a certain group of people, then that would be able to be quote, unquote universal. So you will end up with universal injunctions. It will just go through the class action route.

[Katie Pavlich]

Well, it'll be interesting to watch these big issues get to the Supreme Court, especially birthright citizenship in October. So we'll be watching in the meantime. Up next, President Trump drops a bunker buster on Democrats in denial about the strike on Iran's nuclear sites.

[Kennedy]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Unknown]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Unknown]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Kennedy]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Unknown]

All right. Democrats keep claiming Trump is lying about obliterating Iran's nuclear facilities. I just do not think the president was telling the truth when he said this program was obliterated.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Trump said that the nuclear stockpile was completely and totally obliterated.

[Unknown]

I did not receive an adequate answer to that question.

[Kennedy]

The administration has done a tremendous disservice.

[Unknown]

To itself and to our military men and women. By claiming that the job is all done. President Trump is deliberately misleading the country about the results of the military action he took. Right. What a shocker. Those three do not think positive things about the president and his military operations. So President Trump had no choice but to drop a bunker buster on the doubters.

[Jesse Watters]

It's been obliterated. It would be years before they could ever get going. But I don't believe that they're going to go back into nuclear anytime soon. They spent over a trillion dollars on nuclear and they never got it together.

[Kennedy]

If the intelligence reports conclude that Iran can enrich uranium to a level that concerns, would you consider bombing the country again, without question.

[Jesse Watters]

Absolutely. They're exhausted and Israel's exhausted too. And I dealt with both of them and they both wanted it settled. The last thing they're thinking about right now is nuclear.

[Unknown]

Well, he wasn't done yet. President Trump later posted a lengthy truth lashing out at the Supreme Leader Khomeini for claiming Iran won the war with Israel. Trump says he wouldn't let Israel terminate his life. Quote, this. I saved him from a very ugly and ignominious death. And he does not have to say, thank you, President Trump. So it's true. The Israelis knew exactly where he was. They did not kill him, but they were not afraid to kill him after they took out Nasar Allah.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And.

[Unknown]

And nothing really happened except for Lebanon. Went back to the Lebanese. I thought it was very telling, Jesse. When Bernie Moreno said last night to Laura Ingraham, one of the Democrats in that montage we just said we actually have that soundbite. Since I can't do my Bernie Moreno imitation, here is what he sounded like saying the exact same thing. One of the Democrats that you just had on your program was in the confidential briefing in the SCIF today and said to General Kaine, the operation that you ran will go down in the annals of American history as the greatest military operation ever conducted. A Democrat said that today. What's sick, Laura, is that they then go on TV and do everything possible politically to undermine the administration. This is not what they believe. This is just pure political grotesque behavior. Well, who's telling the truth, Bernie Moreno? About what they were like behind closed doors or those three in front of the cameras?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Is it annals or anals? Annals. I think it's annals, so I haven't clarified that. Yeah, so you guys go in there, Jessica, and you did this during Russiagate. You go in and you get briefed on classified info and you go out and you lie about it. I mean, how. Why do we even trust you guys? You guys shouldn't even be briefed. You should just take a year and just chill and we'll brief other people because you can't be trusted with classified information. It's almost like common sense. Brian, when's the last time an American bomb didn't work? Nom. I mean, how many dud bombs have we ever dropped? And these things are so accurate. We perfected the smart bomb in the Desert Storm. It's not like we're not going to hit what we want to hit. And these things went all the way down this air shaft and exploded six times in the middle of this cavern, the whole thing's a fire pit. You can't know 100% what happened inside because you can't get inside yet.

[Unknown]

46 years we've been trying the talking route. It has not worked out well. So now they've at least set back significantly, maybe forever. Katie, the nuclear program, everyone should agree on that. And the one thing I could, I think Democrats are missing out on is that they deserve credit during the, this, this whole mission started in 2009 to find a way to blow up their program should they get the call from a president. Now you go from Bush to Obama to Biden to, to Trump to, excuse me, to Trump to Biden. Now back to Trump and he goes, you know what? I'm done talking. I'm going to take it out. If I'm Senator Murphy, I say, look, we have that option. I think president, you know, a few presidents have that option. They worked on it together, just like the bin Laden raid. Every other administration deserve credit along with President Obama.

[Katie Pavlich]

It's an American mission.

[Unknown]

That's what it was.

[Katie Pavlich]

The vast majority, Democrats, Republicans, have always said Iran can't get a nuclear weapon, so just give Trump the win. Why do you have to go? Exactly. They have to be political about it because they just can't give the president the win. I keep thinking about the stories that came out right before this happened. You know, maybe the bunker buster bombs won't work, maybe B2s aren't enough. Maybe Trump should use a tactical nuke. Can you imagine if he had used a tactical nuke, the criticism he would have received from Democrats as well, that he, it was overkill because he wanted to make sure that everything was destroyed and there was no question about that. And then he took this route and still, you know, there's this leak which everybody, if you care about making sure that these things don't damage American sources, American intelligence, that the leaks don't happen prematurely. We all want information. We all want to know what happened. We want to know if the job was done. There still may be more work to do. But this idea that you would send out half truths about the information and imply that the mission was not complete is pretty low. Even when it comes to politics.

[Unknown]

I think the Middle east is about to be made over. Jessica, you've been firmly in Israel's court throughout this entire two and a half years, since October 7th. But I would say also it's going to be very interesting to see with who leaked the dia, because the DIA is the same group that said Ukraine would last two Days. They said Ukraine can't withstand an invasion. They'll be done in two days. Kyiv will fall. And now we find out with low confidence that. That they think we only set back their program two to three months. And I just think that whoever, if it is a Democrat that leaked it, I think it's just as guilty. The DIA person who feels as though they could just go work the lawmakers to make sure that, I guess Trump and the military don't feel like they won on Sunday night.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Well, I take issue with the fact that we seem to over and over again treat our intel officers as if they're not part of the United States government and that they're not our warriors of a different kind. They're not the ones going out there dropping the bombs, but they are the ones collecting enough intelligence to make sure that we can do that effectively.

[Unknown]

But would you say they diminish themselves when they pick up the phone and call a reporter?

[Jessica Tarlove]

None of us know exactly how this happens, so we should wait to find out. I think that leaks can be incredibly dangerous. I think that the pilots that did this, that dreamed about this for 15 years and have trained with pinpoint precision to be able to pull this off, deserve all the credit in the world. But I also don't think that it diminishes what they accomplished to ask questions like, where are the 900 pounds of 60% enriched uranium? And you notice a theme from the Republican senators and congresspeople coming out of these private briefings. Senator Cotton, for instance, Mike McCaul in the house, for instance, they keep just separating and say, well, that wasn't the point of the mission. Wasn't the point of the mission to deal with the fact that they got the uranium out? Probably because the President was signaling on social media that this was going to happen and that we don't know where it is. And I think that's why people like Senator Murphy are saying, how far does this actually set it back? Maybe only a few months. If they're walking around with it in uranium that is at 60%, they can't.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Do anything with it because all those sites are destroyed.

[Unknown]

Kennedy, can I just go to you? The foreign minister came out of Iran, who I think is pulling for Iran for total victory, said admitted in an interview that the US Strikes caused serious damage to Tehran's nuclear facilities. He reiterated it, and it went directly against with the Grand Ayatollah. And can you imagine Ayatollah that wasn't grand, came out and said it was no big deal.

[Kennedy]

I haven't been to Iran. I haven't met the Ayatollah. I cannot comment on his grandness, and.

[Unknown]

I will not back.

[Kennedy]

I just don't have the information. You know, maybe Chris Murphy does. Maybe Chris Murphy knows how Grandma, media, everything. Yeah. The foreign minister comes out and obviously the United States wants to get Iran back to the table. They said they want to do it without a third party. No mediation. They want Iran to come to the table.

[Unknown]

No more notes.

[Kennedy]

No more notes. No more. Too many notes. But the foreign minister came out and said, yeah, it's decimated. He sounded like Pete Hegset.

[Unknown]

He was like, Pete called him and said, calm down.

[Kennedy]

Take it down. A pilot. No, he was like, you're plagiarizing me. All right, knock it off.

[Unknown]

I'm going to sue.

[Kennedy]

Yeah, I'll sue you. It's a very little car. And sue you. Yes, exactly. But, you know, it's like, I do take issue with lawmakers who go into these confidential classified briefings and come out and. And even, you know, it's like they do this fruity little tap dance where they come out in front of the cameras and they make all of these implications. We saw Adam shift to that, like, whoa, you will believe the information that I've got. And he was totally making it up. It was an absolute falsehood because they don't have the means for verification that they are claiming that they have. And a lot of this is spitballing. The Iranians don't know what. What exactly is happening. And yes, their lawmakers are like, well, that wasn't the point of the strike. They had 25 minutes in Iranian airspace. And so they went after the three nuclear sites. They didn't have two and a half days to go. Is that the uranium?

[Jessica Tarlove]

Are those the trucks?

[Kennedy]

Is that the £900? And so, yes, that wasn't on the target list. I hope to God this is the only thing we have to do. But between Van Hollen and Murphy and Dick Durbin and Da Nang, Dick, like all the Dicks, you know, they're all asking for more bombs, which seems very odd given the past position of the Democrat Party.

[Unknown]

It's crazy, but it's going to be. It's an exciting time. If we get the Gaza thing done, there might be a chance at a Middle east that tries to be productive instead of be destructive. I feel like you had to say something, Jesse.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Not anymore. After the dinandy comment, I just lost.

[Unknown]

You just lost.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You just lost my train of thought.

[Unknown]

I understand Kennedy. How dare you apologize to him in the break. I will break up next. The Democratic Party is such a hot mess, they are hitching their wagon to a socialist. No joke, Jack.

[Brian Kilmeade]

The Democrat dumpster fire just got soaked in socialist gasoline. Zoran the Destroyer is about to give Karl Marx a woke makeover if Democrats can't stop him from becoming the next mayor of New York City. A housing policy document on Madman's official website talks about how he'd like to shift the tax burden to richer and whiter neighborhoods if he wins in November. And of course, the commie's got a beef with capitalism.

[Katie Pavlich]

Do you like capitalism?

[Unknown]

No. I have many critiques of capitalism, and I think ultimately the definition for me.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Of why I call myself a democratic.

[Unknown]

Socialist is the words of Dr. King decades ago, he said, call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. There must be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children in this country. And that's what I'm focused on, is dignity and taking on income inequality.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But can the moderates slay the socialist? Michigan Senator Skotkin is dropping her alpha vision for the Dems Watch.

[Kennedy]

Democrats have lost some of their alpha energy. They're looking for you to just show some. Some fight and some planning and some, like, be the coach that's gonna lead people from a losing record to a winning record. How are we gonna do that and bring people along with you? And we don't do that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, so you're not a lawyer, Brian, but he's very literate. He is very literate. When you say you want to shift the tax burden to whites, is that constitutional?

[Unknown]

I think he stole my favorite line. I say that all the time in the halls of Fox. I'm always saying the white people are the problem. And then he steals my line. So little offensive.

[Brian Kilmeade]

White pay more.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Make the whites. I've always said that if the white people would just pay more, I just. Finally, we're cracking down on the white people, and it's way overdue. And I'm too bad that, you know, Trump didn't think of that.

[Brian Kilmeade]

These whites are out of line.

[Unknown]

So I got to give him one credit. When you ask Bernie Sanders, he's socialist, like, you know, he'll just go around the subject. It's not a problem. I just, you know, I want to equal things out. This guy's like, no, no, I am a socialist. Don't try to. So she tried every. Burnett tried to soften it. You're not really. So she like capitalism a little bit? No, not at all. Not at all. Why do you ask? And the thing is, the reason why, the reason why he's popular. He's big social media guy. He's got young people excited. He evidently goes around and has big parties. They don't even know what they're voting for, what they're doing. He's young, he's got energy. He's on social media, makes some cool tapes, jumps in the water when it's cold, and people follow around. There was like, 20. I was talking to the Free Press person that's been following around for two years and says that he just. He is just. He just has huge parties. People don't know what they're doing. Evidently, that night, on election night, they had 30 parties sponsored and paid for, where people go and get drunk and they go, I love this guy. They have no idea what he stands for. But there's panic. Jessica, you're better than me on this. But Gillibrand is not happy. Schumer, Keem, Jeffries, Culp. And she can't even pretend that it's an okay thing. Laura Gillen, Democrat on Long Island Swazi, too. Yeah, this is not good for the Democratic Party.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Jessica, your name was mentioned. You can respond.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Well, it was also a nice mention, which has basically never happened before.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So you can't respond.

[Jessica Tarlove]

All right, we're gonna go to you, Kenobi. I think Elise Stefanik was the first one to start fundraising off of this on Tuesday night. You know, had it ready to go. And it is going to be a talking point in everyone's election across the country. They're going to say this is, you know, the leader of the party. AOC is the kingmaker. Right. And we're gonna have Democratic socialists.

[Unknown]

Do you believe that, though, or are you just saying they're saying that?

[Jessica Tarlove]

Well, no, I don't think Mamdani is the leader of our party or AOC is the leader of our party. And I should note as well that Schumer and Jeffries congratulated him. They didn't endorse him, and people are waiting to see what happens. Cuomo, it was rumored that he was going to drop out. I believe the deadline was, like, this afternoon, where he had to get off. He has an independent line on the Fight and Deliver line. And at least what I read right before the show is that he didn't drop out. So the problem is going to be that Adams and Cuomo can't both be in because they're gonna split the moderate vote or the anti Mamdani vote. Curtis Lewis, apparently, some donors were Thinking that they could beg Trump to have him go take a role in the administration to get him out of this race, that you could appeal to Trump and just say, we don't need New York City to turn into a socialist, you know, place. This is your home. Take Sliwa. And apparently he'd have to be carried out in a pine box before he got out of this race. It's his third time running him and all his 16 cats. So Sliwa is still gonna take some, at least a hefty portion of the Republican vote. And I'm concerned for the moderate folks that they're not gonna be able to consolidate behind an Adams or a Cuomo. And it's gonna be, are we getting.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Kennedy to the point where it's like, these young people here, they don't care about capitalism? It's not about that. It's about, gimme stuff, Just give me stuff. I don't care where you get it from.

[Unknown]

Life's tough.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I need stuff.

[Kennedy]

Who doesn't need stuff? He's fueling the notion that you are entitled to live in New York City, even though it's the most expensive city in the country and you deserve to live there and you deserve to have other people pay for it. It's not a hard sell. The problem is when you tell all the people who create your tax base that you're going to tax them even more, you are sending them a handwritten invitation to leave the city. You are inviting them to leave because why would they stay? Every single person I have talked to, every single person, Democrats, Republicans, they have all said, we're looking at starting our business in New Jersey. We are looking at moving to Florida. We are looking at Tennessee, we are looking at Nevada, we are looking at Idaho. They're looking at any other place which is a little bit more amenable to taxation. And that is. That crosses party lines. I have a neighbor in my fancy apartment building who was wearing fancy shoes and a fancy outfit and an I voted sticker. I said, who'd you vote for? And he said, mom, Donnie. I said, sweet, you're not going to be able to afford those shoes next year, now, will ya? And donate them? No. They just assume that great things are going to happen. Great things don't happen when the government gets bigger and bigger and bigger and creates more dependents while inviting the people who pay for those dependents to leave.

[Katie Pavlich]

Right.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And then can you get past the point of no return?

[Katie Pavlich]

Well, Democratic socialists always talk about needing to redistribute wealth. Well, there's going to be no wealth to redistribute when everybody leaves. Who develops the wealth? Who creates jobs? Who runs businesses? Who pays their taxes in the city? I mean, this has happened in places all over the world where they run out the business through these equitable programs where everyone's equal in poverty and it doesn't work out well for anybody. But in terms of the problem the Democrats have trying to get women like Senator Gillibrand, these woke white women to shame people like this new guy out of the party is not going to work. I'd like to also understand what a moderate Democrat is these days. Maybe it is based on taxes, but this is a monster that the left has built. I mean, this is something that's been festering inside the Democratic Party for a very long time. And it's not that it's young people necessarily who want free stuff. It's the affluent, multiple degrees. No offense, Jessica. Overeducated Democrats who are voting for people like him, while the working class is shifting towards Republicans who are saying, we don't want to overtax your bosses or your businesses because we want you to have a tax base. You actually can have nice schools and nice parks, places to go in your city.

[Unknown]

But the people make under $50,000 voted for Cuomo. Right? Right. And the black vote went to Cuomo.

[Kennedy]

And they're condescending rich white people. And they can shut it right about now. Unfortunately, they have a big problem, the progr. Because democratic socialism and antisemitism go hand in hand. There are more Jews in New York City than any other city in the world outside of Israel. So I hope that voting block wakes up and sees what this guy is really about.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, how many degrees do you have, Jessica?

[Jessica Tarlove]

Graduate.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Unknown]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Kennedy]

Lady Gaga's dad is on my podcast today. Kennedy saves the world. Fox newspodcast.com for those who celebrate. Happy one year since Joe Biden beat Medicare. Dealing with everything we have to do.

[Unknown]

With, look, if we finally beat Medicare.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Thank you, President Biden.

[Jesse Watters]

President Trump was right. He did beat Medicaid. Beat it to death.

[Kennedy]

The total initiative relative to what we.

[Unknown]

Can do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers.

[Jesse Watters]

President Trump, I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows what he said either.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Okay.

[Kennedy]

It has been one whole year since the night America realized the emperor was wearing Depends. And now flash forward to today, and Kabul has been burdened by what has been. Unfortunately, California donors are souring on her potential run for governor. One big money guy telling Politico, quote, kamala just reminds you you are in complete beepstorm. Jessica, it is. Don't worry, we're going to get to. We're going to sting the hits with Biden. But I want to talk about Kamala because she must have been so gleeful that everyone got to see what she saw every day when she was with Joe Biden. And now she's talking about her consolation prize, running for governor of California. Are you surprised that she's getting this much pushback from big donors in her home state?

[Jessica Tarlove]

No. Why should it be any different than how big donors feel about giving to the DNC right now? They wanna see a plan like, we lost all over the. We lost what, 90% of counties? You can't do things the same way anymore. Which is the Mamdani example. He's doing it differently. I don't think that means he's doing it better, but he's doing it differently. I also gotta tell you, I didn't watch any of that debate. I was away. I woke up in the morning, I was five hours ahead, saw the text messages, didn't click on any of the links. I don't want to see any of it, so please don't show me anymore. It's really, really bad.

[Kennedy]

I can't get enough of it. Justine. Oh. It was like, stop reliving that. I had very different feelings about the race before going into the debate. What was your favorite part?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, sometimes my friends and I just drink and we watch clips of this because it's just so good. We watched it with Johnny upstairs because I was on afterwards and we saw him break down and Johnny and I just jumped off the floor and just high fived. He said, it's over.

[Unknown]

It's over.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We could not believe what we were witnessing. And we remembered that they told us that he was gonna dunk Donald Trump in a lake. He was the best he ever was. Meanwhile, we found out because these stupid books. The guy was falling asleep at Camp David. He wasn't even doing debate prep. He just napped all day. Now, Kamala, where's she been? Because she said she wasn't going anywhere. And we've had an attack on Iran's nuclear program and riots in Los Angeles, and she's been invisible. I mean, she's not the kind of woman you want to give millions of dollars to. She'll just waste it. And that's not an attack on women. Men waste money, too, just not as much.

[Kennedy]

She also, by the way, she also wasn't there during the California wildfires on January 7th of this year, and she was still vice president.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right.

[Kennedy]

As her home state, the town right next door to the place where she lives, burned to the ground.

[Katie Pavlich]

Yeah.

[Kennedy]

What would have happened if Joe Biden did have a good debate performance?

[Katie Pavlich]

He would have stayed in, and I still think he would have lost. But the lead up to that debate, it started to get obvious that things were not going well. Because you had here at Fox, we were showing all of the advisors who they were rolling out and they were getting little drips and drabs of the debate prep that Joe Biden was doing. And they were trying to sell it like, this is a good thing. And my reaction to it was, if he's having to do this much debate prep lockdown for days at a time to debate President Trump and not rely on his own record, it's going to be a problem for him. Then they roll him out like this, and the entire world saw what we had been talking about for years on end, which is the emperor has no clothes. And the big lie was exposed that Joe Biden was capable of not only just running again, but running the country. And that was the big question following that debate was, is he going to drop out? He wasn't doing it voluntarily. And then it was the bigger question of if he can't run for president again, he probably shouldn't be occupying the Oval Office until November.

[Kennedy]

Wouldn't it be great if we had some of that reporting?

[Katie Pavlich]

Yeah, it would have been nice in.

[Kennedy]

The summer, even before the debate. How important is this probe to get to the bottom of how bad was it and who was running the country?

[Unknown]

I go back and forth on it because there's so much to do. I don't know how much I want to reflect back on it. I would like to find out who was running the country. So if the 25th Amendment has to play a role, it should have played. My point is this. I think One of the biggest stories is, and it hasn't come up in the books yet. Who pushed for that debate in June? Who told the debate council, just knock it off? Trump was coming off a conviction in May. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, he goes, I know you have off on Wednesdays. I'll do one debate. We're not gonna have an audience. It's gonna be in the studio. And you can't cut me off. I'm gonna kill your mics. And Trump goes, all right, I'll do that. I thought, what's going on here? Are you going for the.

[Katie Pavlich]

They knew it.

[Unknown]

They knew that someone wanted him exposed. And lastly, Kamala Harris thinks she deserves be governor because she inherited becoming senator because the position was open. She's done nothing to become governor. She hasn't shown any passion for it. She blew $1.5 billion, and if she did one thing, she would have won the election. When she was given the portfolio to, say, fix the border if she did. Or call Tom Holmer, if she did fix the border, she would have been the next president. There would have been pressure for Biden to step aside. Instead, she's like, I really don't want to do it. It's a loser job. You can't win, really. In four months, Trump just sealed the.

[Kennedy]

Border with that crazy glue stuff that they put on boats without the wall. Yeah, it's amazing. Ahead, you think your job is hard. This electrical worker left dangling midair the fastest. Up next.

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[Jessica Tarlove]

Heart stopping video. An electrical worker in Louisiana left swinging for his life, dangling by his harness after an 18 wheeler slammed into his bucket lift. Incredibly, he survived with just minor injuries. Kennedy, I mean, I. I wouldn't get in there anyway, but it's.

[Kennedy]

It's too low. I mean, and. And everyone who works in construction looked at that and critiqued what they were doing. If you have. Because all semis, like all containers are a certain height, that's like, that's why they can go under bridges. He was. He was too low. If you can be Clipped by a semi like that, you're dangling a little too.

[Unknown]

You've always said that.

[Kennedy]

I've always said, don't dangle.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Workplace lawsuit, right? Brian?

[Unknown]

Yes. A couple of things. Cones. If you are. If you are working on a light, just like, hey, guys, do you have any cones?

[Kennedy]

There are cones.

[Katie Pavlich]

They're in the wrong place.

[Unknown]

Yeah. I'd like you to put them in the lane that I'm in. All right. If I'm gonna get up here in a hard hat and a bucket, I'd like a cone to keep the 18 wheelers away from me. For more on that, let's go to the others.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Kitty cones.

[Katie Pavlich]

I'm just really glad he was wearing a safety harness. But also, this is why men make more money sometimes than women do. Because they do tough jobs, dangerous jobs like this.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Katie Pavlich]

Good for them.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I mean, I don't have anything else to say after that.

[Unknown]

Katie.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Give me some more of that.

[Katie Pavlich]

Jesse, we could have a bin off. I think I'd win this situation.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But what's a bin off?

[Jessica Tarlove]

Where you go and we get hit.

[Katie Pavlich]

By SMI truck and see who does a better job.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Oh, who does a better job dangling upside down? You can have that job.

[Katie Pavlich]

You would scream.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I wouldn't.

[Jessica Tarlove]

One More Thing is up next.

[Unknown]

Good news for working families.

[Katie Pavlich]

It's time now for One More Thing.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Jesse, the Bro cup was this morning. It's one of the most prestigious tournaments in New Jersey. Went into a two hole playoff. We have Chris, P.J. and Rocco. Those are the winners.

[Unknown]

P.J.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And Waters took home the Bro Cup. It's a very, very special day tonight. Jesse Waters. Primetime. Kristi Noem takes us inside. Alligator Alcatraz, eight o' clock.

[Katie Pavlich]

All right. Scary place.

[Jessica Tarlove]

Jessica, you look very muscular in that picture at the Bro Cup.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Don't harass me, all right.

[Jessica Tarlove]

A traffic stop came with a sign of compassion in Louisiana. St. Tammany Parish Sheriff's Deputy Dustin Byers stopped a man for speeding. The man explained he was on his way to his dad's funeral and couldn't get his tie right. Without hesitation, Byers helped him with his tie on the side of the road. And, oh, he did get a citation. I wouldn't have approved this.

[Unknown]

Wait, he got a citation?

[Jessica Tarlove]

That's so rude.

[Katie Pavlich]

That's nice of him to help. All right, Brian.

[Unknown]

All right. So coming up on One Nation Sunday night at 10, I have a sense who the guests will be. Larry Kudlow. Sid Rosenberg will not look straight ahead. I'm not sure why Tomi Lahren has this look to her. You're going to love the show. What kind of look to her? Sunday at 10. It's kind of like I dare you to watch. I dare you to watch me. Also, I want you to join me in Dallas, Texas. Will Kane will be joining me. And then Richmond, Virginia. This is going to be streamed on FOX Nation. On stage, Brian kilmeade.com now this our robots are better than their robots. Look at the robots in China playing soccer. That's pathetic. That's good. If it's 1973, your robots are terrible. That's you're doing a disservice to the game. You want to see good robots? Look at the Tesla robot.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Oh, yeah.

[Unknown]

Robot Kennedy feature robots.

[Katie Pavlich]

China Kennedy.

[Unknown]

Thank you.

[Kennedy]

Do a little crunk right there. Incredible footage out of Pennsylvania. A group of hot teens on a slip and slide. Their UPS driver joined in, went at a full sprint, went down the slip and slide. I am down with Brown. Well done, sir.

[Katie Pavlich]

That sounds like so much fun. That's how you know it is summer. Well, that's it for us. Have a great night, everybody.

[Unknown]

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