The Five 07-21-2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five – July 21, 2025

Introduction

In the July 21, 2025, episode of The Five, hosted by Sandra Smith and featuring panelists Katie Pavlich, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld, the discussion centered around President Trump's six-month mark into his second term. The panel delved into Trump's policy achievements, Democratic responses, media dynamics, and broader socio-economic issues impacting the United States.

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1. President Trump's Achievements

The episode opened with a focus on President Trump’s touted accomplishments over the past six months. Sandra Smith highlighted significant milestones, including the successful implementation of tariffs and enhanced border security measures.

• Tariffs Revenue:

  • Harold Ford Jr. emphasized, “Inflation is now running at a 2.1% annual rate" [00:31-01:48], attributing economic stability to Trump's tariff policies which have generated approximately $100 billion in revenue.

• Border Security:

  • Jesse Watters added, “At the numbers just last month, zero [illegal border crossings]" [01:59-02:01], underscoring the drastic reduction in illegal entries.
  • Greg Gutfeld supported this by stating, “Illegal aliens were released into our country” [02:01-02:04], though his comment appears sarcastic in context.
  • Katie Pavlich provided data-backed support, noting June’s record low border encounters and zero illegal alien releases, countering Democratic criticisms with, “Don’t just take the White House's word for it” [02:10-02:34].

• Economic Stability:

  • Harold Ford Jr. praised Trump's economic policies, mentioning coordination with NATO allies to achieve increased defense spending: “I give him great credit to get our European allies in NATO to spend 5% on defense” [02:56-04:50].

• International Relations:

  • The panel acknowledged Trump’s efforts to end the war between Russia and Ukraine, with Harold Ford Jr. stating, “He continues to work aggressively to end the war in Russia and Ukraine” [02:46-02:10].

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2. Democratic Criticism and Polling

The discussion shifted to the Democratic Party’s response to Trump’s policies and current polling data.

• Harold Ford Jr. highlighted a disconnect between economic indicators and public perception: “Surprising to me the president’s underwater on the economy” [04:50-04:56].
• Katie Pavlich pointed out that despite Democratic opposition, the economic data remains favorable for Trump: “The data really speaks for itself” [05:06-05:52].
• Greg Gutfeld mocked Democratic stances, suggesting that Trump’s influence is unparalleled: “Trump’s going to be president for life” [05:06-05:52].

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3. Media and Censorship

A significant portion of the episode critiqued the media landscape and perceived censorship.

• Cancellation of Stephen Colbert:

  • Greg Gutfeld criticized the liberal response to CBS canceling The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, calling it “a $40 million therapy session” [22:19-22:54].
  • The panelists argued that Democrats view Colbert’s show as a propaganda tool, with Jesse Watters asserting, “These are the same people who wanted people to lose their livelihoods if they disagreed” [22:54-28:00].

• Censorship Concerns:

  • Discussions around censorship extended to the broader implications of media control, with Harold Ford Jr. warning, “We are on the precipice of entering a censorship state” [22:54-23:12].

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4. Hunter Biden’s Criticism of Democrats

Hunter Biden made headlines by vocally criticizing Democratic figures and policies.

• Critique of Democratic Establishment:

  • Hunter Biden condemned figures like George Clooney and James Carville, stating, “George Clooney is not an actor. He is a, like, I don't know what it is. He, he, he's a brand” [12:14-12:33].
  • He further attacked Democratic policies on illegal immigration, declaring, “If I became president, I would pick up the phone and call the president of El Salvador and say, you either send them back or I'm gonna invade” [14:11-14:36].

• Panel Reaction:

  • Greg Gutfeld echoed Hunter’s sentiments, portraying him as a significant threat to the Democratic Party: “This is the guy the memo was about” [43:23-44:15].
  • Katie Pavlich lauded Hunter’s authenticity, contrasting it with Democrats’ perceived inauthenticity: “That guy is authentic. He’s the real deal” [16:03-17:19].

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5. Business Climate in California

The panel discussed the exodus of businesses from California, using the example of the In-N-Out CEO relocating to Tennessee.

• In-N-Out CEO’s Move:

  • The CEO cited numerous challenges in California, including high costs, regulations, and social issues: “There were so many pressures and just hoops we were having to jump through” [58:17-59:17].

• California’s Overregulation:

  • Greg Gutfeld highlighted California’s regulatory burden, mentioning, “California has 420,000 regulations” [33:23-33:28].
  • Harold Ford Jr. compared current migrations to historical population shifts, asserting, “People move when they seek more opportunities” [31:07-32:43].

• Economic Impact:

  • Jesse Watters noted job losses in California, attributing them to overregulation: “Under Gavin Newsom, over the last couple of years, the state's lost 6,100 jobs” [35:29-35:50].
  • Katie Pavlich underscored the broader trend of businesses and taxpayers leaving blue states, stressing the sustainability of Democratic programs: “The American people who voted for Donald Trump are going to say nothing has changed with the Democrat Party” [29:51-31:07].

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6. Additional Topics

The episode also touched on various lighter and ancillary topics:

• Concert Safety:

  • Katie Pavlich reported a near-accident at a Katy Perry concert involving a butterfly prop: “Summer concerts are getting dangerous” [37:17-38:15].
  • Greg Gutfeld humorously recounted his own concert experience, downplaying the incident: “There was no one riding a butterfly” [37:44-38:32].

• Celebrity Mural:

  • Harold Ford Jr. mentioned a new mural honoring Josephine Baker in Paris, celebrating her legacy: “First black woman to star in a major motion picture” [68:25-69:11].

• Luxury Martini:

  • Katie Pavlich introduced a segment on an $8,000 martini sold at a Hamptons restaurant, highlighting opulent consumerism: “It’s served in a huge martini glass... garnished with a 5-carat diamond tennis necklace” [68:41-69:11].

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, the panelists maintained a consistent pro-Trump stance, celebrating his administration's achievements while criticizing Democratic policies and media practices. They emphasized the positive impacts of Trump's trade and border policies, questioned Democratic integrity, and highlighted ongoing issues like overregulation in states like California. Additionally, they addressed broader cultural and economic trends, reinforcing their perspectives on free speech, media control, and business climate challenges.

Notable Quotes:

• Harold Ford Jr.: “Inflation is now running at a 2.1% annual rate.” [00:31-01:48]
• Jesse Watters: “At the numbers just last month, zero.” [01:59-02:01]
• Greg Gutfeld: “Trump’s going to be president for life. Isn’t that what they said?” [05:06-05:52]
• Hunter Biden: “If I became president, I would pick up the phone and call the president of El Salvador and say, you either send them back or I'm gonna invade.” [14:11-14:36]
• Greg Gutfeld: “The liberals are screaming about the death of democracy because CBS finally canceled their $40 million loser.” [22:19-22:54]
• Katie Pavlich: “The data really speaks for itself.” [05:06-05:52]
• Jesse Watters: “These are the same people who wanted people to lose their livelihoods if they disagreed.” [22:54-28:00]
• Harold Ford Jr.: “We are on the precipice of entering a censorship state.” [22:54-23:12]

This comprehensive discussion on The Five covers the pivotal topics and viewpoints presented by the panel, offering listeners a thorough understanding of the conversation's key elements and underlying themes.

Transcript

[Sandra Smith]

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[Katie Pavlich]

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[Harold Ford Jr.]

I think you've all seen in six months time, the president has delivered on those two core campaign promises. Inflation is now running at a 2.1% annual rate. You look at our southern border, look.

[Jesse Watters]

At the numbers just last month, zero.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Illegal aliens were released into our country.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

And then look at what the President has done. He continues to work aggressively to end the war in Russia and Ukraine.

[Katie Pavlich]

But don't just take the White House's word for it. President Trump's success at the border is showing up in the data. June saw the lowest month of border encounters ever recorded and the second straight month with zero illegal aliens released in into the country. And yet the Dem still won't give Trump credit. Louisiana Mayor Karen Bass telling ABC's Martha Raddatz his crackdown isn't working.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

If you ask me, is there anything that they have done good in terms of immigration?

[Jesse Watters]

I don't know.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I don't think so. I think that the viewpoint has been punitive, has been let's make it as.

[Jesse Watters]

Miserable as possible so that these people don't come.

[Katie Pavlich]

So what does that tell you, Harold? Is your party going to acknowledge any of these wins, border, economy, trade or otherwise?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

So it's good to be with you. Hope you had a great weekend. I give the president high marks on the border, like a lot of Napoleons do. I give the president high marks on being the first president in my lifetime. With the enormous coordination we had with the Israelis to be able to set back, we can argue over six months, six years, it was a success to set back the nuclear program. I give him great, great credit to get our European allies in NATO to spend 5% on defense. I now hope he catalyzes and leverages that to say to Putin, you may get Crimea, but if you attack anything else, we're going to let them in NATO right away. But I'll let the president, his team negotiate that and as you said, the tax and spending bill. But Sandra, Democrats and I are not the problem. The polling right now shows, and I said this when Joe Biden was in office, when his team would run around saying the economy is going great, things are going well. I said some of the numbers may say that, but the polls don't say that. People don't believe they're doing well. If you look at some of the polling, surprising to me the president's underwater on the economy. Surprising to me, he's underwater on immigration. My theory on immigration is we support him hugely on the border. I'm part of the group that supports him on the border. But I think when we get to, and I say this all the time on the show, the hierarchy of deportations, who gets deported once you get beyond the first, the worst being the first, I think a lot of Americans are wrestling with that issue. So if I were the president, I certainly would be talking the way he's talking these first six months. I think that the next two weeks, probably for many people, including business leaders in the country, whether or not the president is able to get tariff and trade agreements with some of our allies and even some of those who are not our allies, I think will even help influenced that economy number, which I was surprised by. I didn't think the president would be underwater as much, particularly since the tax and spending bill got passed. But these are American people who are living their lives who are responding to these polls.

[Katie Pavlich]

Well, I suppose the polls can come and go and they can change in a heartbeat, but the data really speaks for itself. Jesse, can Democrats continue to deny that the president's policies at the border are working the economy. As the Wall Street Journal put in a recent headline, it regaining its swagger.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I don't know why Harold mentions polls. Trump's going to be president for life. Isn't that what they said? Who cares about reelection? He's just going to stay there. There's a lot of great things happening, and we'll get to that. But there are certain things that I am not satisfied with. So far in the first six months, we haven't invaded Greenland yet, and the clock is ticking. I also want to see the Fort Knox tour. Whatever happened to touring Fort Knox? Is the gold there? Is it not there? We need to know. Paulie P. Has yet to be indicted on insider trading. And every day that goes by with him as a free man is a day that corruption lives on. The tax cuts weren't deep enough. They should have been much deeper. And I'm not saying that from a selfish perspective at all. Harold, stop looking at me.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

What perspective are you coming from?

[Greg Gutfeld]

From a policy perspective, that would have been much better. And he should have hired more Fox hosts. The fact that he couldn't find an extra job somewhere for Will Kaine, I mean, have you seen the 4 o'? Clock? I'm missing Cavuto at this point, it's gotten so bad, but behind the scenes, there's so many good things happening. Oh, my God. We are now breaking ground on a rare earth mineral mine in Arizona. We're starting the first nuclear power plant in 15 years. We're selling an enormous amount of natural gas to the Europeans and it's not even 2%. They paid their NATO dues up, it's now 5%. AI data centers, they're doing ribbon cutting ceremonies every single day. And we are revitalizing American shipbuilding. But it is interesting this media now are admitting that the president does control the border and it has nothing to do with Congress. So I'd be interested to see the next Democrat president when they get into the White House. And if they open the floodgates again, that has to be covered as a choice. He cannot blame Trump, they cannot blame Congress or funding the next Democrat president that comes in. And they reverse Donald Trump's border policies and we have another invasion. The media has to treat that as a decision the President is making because now we know he has the tools to do it without Congress.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I promise I won't do it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I mean, Katie, Good Katie, I like that.

[Katie Pavlich]

To Jesse's point, I mean, even Martha Raddatz in that interview, we just showed a bit of Says whatever they're doing, whatever they're doing is certainly working at the border itself. An acknowledgement that to Jesse's point, the President is controlling the border, approves.

[Jesse Watters]

It was all a choice. And when you take care of the border, you then can focus on interior enforcement, this deportation task force they're implementing in cities across the country, getting rid of criminal illegal aliens. But also it really helps take pressure off of public service systems, taxpayer funded systems like hospitals, schools, public transportation, etc. So that is a long term thing that will play out and help. I always used to say that working in D.C. is like dog years. One feels like seven. But based on how much Trump has accomplished in six months, we're going to need another comparison, I think. And these are not gimmick achievements. They are short term politically popular for the most part. And long term they help the country and the world. Whether it's the AI that they pushed forward last week, whether it's the Bitcoin reserve they're doing, whether it's these agreements for NATO to pay more when during his first term he was accused of wanting to end NATO. These are things that are long term, not short term. And Democrats can talk about the poll numbers slipping on the border issue, maybe by 1 or 2%, but their approval rating is in the 30s and they're having a very hard time even figuring out where they stand as a party. So the President's doing pretty well. And also on the border issue, you know, it's easy to do the things on the surface, but when it comes to getting people out of these communities and the media onslaught of it's not fair to get rid of people here illegally. Those are the hard things the President is doing. And they tap into people's emotions. But he's doing the things he said. And he set the bar for future politicians to campaign and then execute. Not just campaign and, and then not do what they say.

[Katie Pavlich]

Very interesting. Greg, what has been your favorite part of the six months of the golden age?

[Tyrus]

Well, there was that time I was in Miami. Was it Shakespeare said the fish rots from the head. That's why her name is Karen Bass. It is amazing when a stupid person stumbles into the answer that they've always missed. It's like a, a blind person getting the Wheel of Fortune puzzle. Right. That's what happened. When she said how awful it was that illegals are being faced with punitive measures, she actually said punitive, as though that's a bad thing. Punitive measures is the exact bedrock of law and order. You discourage law breaking with punishment. How does a mayor just discover this and see it as a bad thing? I am convinced she's a complete cutout. She's not even real. Because everybody understands this basic principle. And if she doesn't, then it tells you why Democrats needed Trump more than Republicans did. Because if you notice, there really isn't a lot of pushback on Trump. I mean, you get the usual clowns on cnn, msnbc, and the Adam Schiffs and the Jeffries, but for most Democrats and most people, everyone knew there had to be a change. But they also knew they couldn't do it themselves. They were too beholden to activists, special interests, identity groups, dogmatists. Trump gave them an out. He came in. I'll be the villain. You know what? I'll take the heat. I'll save women's sports. I'll close the border. I'll loosen up regulations so people can start making some money. And you can say that you hate it, even though you really like it. It's like when you wake up the next day and you're relieved that the bartender cut you off when he did. They needed the libs, needed somebody to cut them off because they couldn't do it themselves. And so now they get. It's a twofer. They get to blame Trump and hate Trump and benefit from his policies. Meanwhile, the Dems are kind of like a softball machine. They're always throwing these lob, big, fat, slow pitches, and Trump just wails him over the fence. You know, what did they do? They attacked him in the beginning about gas and eggs. Two things that you can fix right away, and he does. Then you have the tariff thing they said was terrible. Well, every week, a new country comes to the table. He has a win, like, every three days. It's like a couple hundred countries, one after the other. Then if they come out and they say, my God, look on immigration. Look at this Maryland dad. Look at this woman who was kidnapped by ice. And then you end up with a counter story which is more devastating or real. You end up with a rapist being arrested, a pedophile being arrested, a gang member shooting a cop in the face. So every single thing that they do, he ends up having an answer for, and it's better. So I think that's why they're kind of relieved that the golden age is here.

[Greg Gutfeld]

When are you going back to Miami?

[Tyrus]

In a few weeks. Me and Will Kane are going. It's clothing optional.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Because that was my favorite week, too.

[Katie Pavlich]

You guys. All right, up next, Hunter Biden explodes at George Clooney for kneecapping his dad.

[Hunter Biden]

Him and everybody around him. George Clooney is not a actor. He is a, like, I don't know what it is. He, he, he's a brand.

[Greg Gutfeld]

When you need to prepare for.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Over.

[Jesse Watters]

Hunter Biden is going on a war path. On the one year anniversary of his dad Joe Biden dropping out of the 2024 race, the felon son raged against George Clooney and other Democrats who he believes undermined Pops, him and everybody around him.

[Hunter Biden]

George Clooney is not a actor. He is a, like, I don't know what he is. He, he, he's a brand. James Carville, who hasn't run a race in 3:40 years. David Axelrod, who had one success in his political life and that was Barack Obama, and that was because of Barack Obama. Pod Save America guys who were junior speechwriters in, you know, on Barack Obama's Senate staff, who've been dining out on the relationship with him for years, making millions of dollars. What influence does Jake Tapper have over anything? He has the smallest audience on cable news.

[Jesse Watters]

I have a headache from all the beeping. Hunter also flying off the handle at the Americans who want to deport the millions of illegals his dad let into the country.

[Hunter Biden]

People are really upset about illegal immigration. You, how do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How do you think you got food on your table? Who do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think does your garden? Who do you think is here by the sheer just grit and will? If I became president, I would pick up the phone and call the president of El Salvador and say, you either send them back or I'm going to invade.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay. And while Hunter rages, we are learning how the DNC did an audit after Action review of why Democrats lost the 2024 election, but conveniently doesn't mention Joe and Kamala. Well, Greg, I guess it's good that Hunter Biden is raging on a podcast instead of going to a rager in his carpet.

[Tyrus]

I have so many mixed feelings. First, you know he's talking about illegals. I seem to remember from a police report he tried to get the police off his back over a missing gun by implicating illegals. Like he said, those guys over there, they're illegal. So he's not a saint when it comes there. But if you look Democrats, if you listen to him, what he's been trying to. What has Democrats been trying to do all six months? Try to be authentic. They try to fake swear, do A lot of theater. That's real swearing. You gotta give it to him. That guy is authentic. He's the real deal. And dare I say, I like him. I get that he's defending Jim. Joe, Joe and Jim, his brother. Right. It's his dad. And I disagree with him on that. But he isn't wrong when he's going after the establishment. And I'm thinking Democrats, especially Carville. Carville said that they're looking for their savior. It's this guy. He's the most direct, honest person the party has. He's very likable. And you have to understand, you can say, oh, but he's a drug addict. You have to understand about drug addicts and alcoholics. That guy managed to make millions and millions of dollars while high. And that's the secret, is that you have to be super competent when you're a junkie or else people will disown you. So he actually works extra hard. If he sits truly in recovery, he. He will be legitimately dangerous, just like rfk, who's beholden to no ideology whatsoever. That's my theory. I'm going with it. And you're welcome on my show.

[Jesse Watters]

There you go. Open invite. So, Jesse, I actually think he has a point with a lot of this. I mean, they totally knifed Joe Biden and said he couldn't win and tried to push him out for a month. And then when he didn't want to go, they kept leaking stories and Nancy Pelosi came around and you know, Clooney wrote that op ed that finally got the ball moving. I mean, he's not wrong when he says they really didn't do much service.

[Greg Gutfeld]

When Roman emperors used to murder their political rivals, Katie, they used to not just murder the rival, they'd murder the entire family. Because if you leave the son alive, he'll spend the rest of his life seeking revenge. And they may have killed off Joe Biden, but Hunter Biden is very much alive. And make no mistake. And everything he's saying is exactly what Joe Biden is thinking. This is dark. Brandon Jr. Greg's right. This is the guy the memo was about. This is a guy who doesn't give an F. He's macho, he's bald. To say that they're going to invade El Salvador to bring back the bad hombres, that's like left wing Trump. This is what they've been looking for. Gavin Newsom doesn't have an ounce of that kind of swagger, cuz that is real.

[Tyrus]

I agree.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We are in agreement There. The problem with the Democratic Party, the autopsy, whatever you want to call it, they don't even want to talk about Biden. They don't want to see Joe, they don't want to see Hunter. But this guy is going to be on a revenge tour the likes of which we've never seen. And his dad is writing a book, so they're never going to get rid of him. The only way they do it, Tom Homan, has to deport the Biden family to go spend time with Iris. Rosie. And I bet the Democrats would say, tom, get them out.

[Jesse Watters]

Or they could call Hillary Clinton. She knows a few people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's true.

[Jesse Watters]

Harold, on this autopsy report, can Democrats really move forward if they don't acknowledge Kamala and Joe's participation in the last election? Because people see it as a cover up, including the party, or do you think they can just move forward without mentioning them?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

We should just move forward and be honest. Now, I would remind everybody around the table, when President Trump ran in 2016, there had been an autopsy done by the Republican Party saying that they needed to appeal more after the loss to Barack Obama and that they needed to appeal more to African American and Hispanic voters across the country. And President Trump, when he came down the escalator, had a very, very different theory of the case as he talked about illegals here and rapists and thugs. And the Republican Party exploded. A lot of them, and I'll be nice about it, exploded in curiosity. None of them exploded in anger. He connected. He knew what was going on in the country. People who win presidential races connect with voters. Now, I hope that I'm never in a position where my son has to defend me like Hunter did. But I admire someone who defends his dad. I defend my dad that way as well. And anyone that has a kid would want their son or their daughter defending them like this. But I would remind everybody, including Hunter, two or three other things. One, had we had a different opinion on the border, we might have won. We didn't. We were wrong on the border. And that was the most explosive issue in the campaign. Little girls, little boys playing little girls, sports really, really rankled a lot of Americans and we had no good answer on it. I remind everyone that when Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump debated, Mr. Biden didn't look like he knew where he was, but that he was able to recover from had he done a good interview with George Stephanopoulos. And he didn't. So Democrats said, you can't do this. We need another candidate. Then you had Ms. Harris. Ms. Harris made the mistake of going on View and being asked a very basic question in the middle of an election that was about change and was asked, what would you have done differently, anything you would do differently if you'd been president? She said, I can't think of anything we've done differently in a change election. Her name could have been Trump, Pence, Vance, Rubio or Clinton. If you say that and you're running and you are, what's happening that people don't like, you're not going to be voted for. Donald Trump lost in 2020 because people wanted to move on from that. So as much as I love the energy and the passion, there's some basics in politics. You have to connect with people, you have to represent people. If Mr. Biden had done what he said he's going to do, it would be a gener generational president passing on. We wouldn't be having the conversation we are right now. So as much as I admire the fire and the passion and the defense of your dad, at the end of the day, the voters spoke.

[Jesse Watters]

Sandra. There's a lot of passion. Passion.

[Katie Pavlich]

If I was cussing around the table, it'd be passion.

[Jesse Watters]

Not just once, like every two seconds.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I'm a diplomat, Sandra.

[Katie Pavlich]

I'm a diplomat. I just keep thinking about the setup they did for the interview with this YouTuber. He's got over 3 million subscribers. I guess he's pretty popular. And Hunter Biden, apparently he met him, had a good connection with him. They sat down for hours, but they sat in nature.

[Jesse Watters]

It's a beautiful scene.

[Tyrus]

Is it weird for you to see him with his clothes on, white clicking bed, nice change.

[Katie Pavlich]

White clicking bed. And then he goes off and just like is screaming and cussing to the point where we can't even air it in its entirety. I'll just say this because I know we're short on time. Unless the autopsy report also looks back and says, okay, all, all the increased regulation over that period of time made it impossible for small businesses in this country to thrive. Unless they acknowledge the canceling of all of those federal oil leases all over the country that led to your high gas prices. Unless the autopsy looks back at the attacking of the rich that greatly employs the lower to middle class. The American people who voted for Donald Trump are going to say nothing has changed with the Democrat Party.

[Tyrus]

You know what this autopsy is like? It's like a celebrity autopsy when they cite the cause of death as heart disease, hypertension, blood clots, liver failure. But underneath it all is one cause. Like chronic lifelong alcoholism, there is an underlying cause to what they are identifying as the secondary causes. And it's always gonna be this identity politics which they weaponized into warfare.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, there's a policy problem. We will watch. All right, up next, the libs say democracy is dead because CBS dumped their $40 million loser, Stephen Colbert.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

During my recovery.

[Greg Gutfeld]

The liberals are screaming about the death of democracy because CBS finally canceled their $40 million therapy session. Stephen Colbert getting the boot after his bosses did some basic math. Quote, the Late show is losing CBS 40 to 50 million bucks a year with a budget of more than 100 million per season. But now Democrats are demanding an investigation into the downfall of their beloved propaganda prince.

[Jesse Watters]

This has not been a great week for free speech and speaking truth to power.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

We are on the precipice of entering a censorship state. This is textbook authoritarian rule. Target your criticism, centralized power in a few hands. Intimidate through punishment or removal. And you know what that usually does? Shuts people the F up.

[Tyrus]

Okay, simply not funny. But also really scary.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Right?

[Tyrus]

And even if it's not quid pro quo, the idea of self censorship.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Before we get started, I just have to issue a clarification. I like Will Kane. I was kidding. I want him to stay at 4. Everyone's texting me what a jerk I am. All right, so this was a mathematic problem.

[Katie Pavlich]

Which one you dumping on, Will? We love you.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Losing $40 million every season.

[Katie Pavlich]

Well, it's interesting, you know, apparently the advertisers have been going away for a while, which is a problem. Doesn't matter what your numbers are. If the advertisers are fleeing, that's going to be an issue. But I thought it was interesting when sources were reporting that he gets no advertising. Late night is a tough spot. Said a person with direct knowledge of CBS's decision. I'm looking at you, Greg, because this person says, quote, colbert might be number one, but who watches late night TV anymore? I know who they watch.

[Tyrus]

Yes, it's me. Sometimes on tv, too. You're welcome to come to the show anytime you like.

[Katie Pavlich]

Thank you, darling.

[Tyrus]

And after the show, we can go for drinks.

[Katie Pavlich]

Okay.

[Tyrus]

Okay. These people, they're people that were complaining. They're either so profoundly stupid or they're being deceptive. Because, like Charlemagne, you're not a God when it comes to economics. They should be. Forget this whole this political crap. They should be investigating Paramount. That's a publicly traded company that has a responsibility to make money. Why did they keep a show on the air that consistently lost Tens of millions of dollars. That's the question. Did they do that so they could have access to certain powerful people that are invited? On Colbert, I mean, you would not hide. If you were running a business, Charlamagne, and that person was in charge of your money and they were losing your money, would you keep them on or would you fire them? Or would you say, you know what, if I fire them, that's fascistic and authoritarian, so I'm gonna keep. I mean, you could argue that fascism is behind every firing. They just love stuff that's subsidized. The libs think that the things that they like should be exempt from metrics of success. Government programs, npr, sanctuary cities. They saw Colbert as a government program. Sure, it costs millions and it sucks, but we feel good that it's on even if we don't watch it. We're not even burdened by the cost. So that's fascist. Even though they ignore other fascism. And you know what? I'll shut up after this. They can't handle losing one outlet of liberal indoctrination. How will they survive when they only have Kimmel and Seth Meyers and the View and ABC World News Tonight and NBC News and cbs, Good Morning America, Today show, cnn, msnbc, Hollywood, academia? How will you survive?

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know, the one interesting point Greg made there, there was only one, Katie, was that I would be interested in if Fallon is losing money or Kimmel is losing money, too. Because if you're a shareholder, why are you supporting a company that's knowingly losing money?

[Jesse Watters]

For years, they kept his show for so long, and they're keeping it for another six months rather than saying it's over today because of his politics, not because he was liberal, because he was pushing a narrative that they liked because he was using his platform to benefit the Democratic Party. I mean, the fact that all of these politicians now in Washington, D.C. are coming out in their indignation and demanding an investigation for the sake of censorship. These are the same people who wanted people to lose their livelihoods if they disagreed. The same people who loved online censorship, who thought it was fine for the federal government, the Biden administration, to work with social media companies to shadow, ban doctors, and people with different opinions and political opposition to the Democratic Party, they were happy with doing all that kind of censorship. But when it comes to an economic decision, now all of a sudden they're saying that they're concerned when really it's all about just losing control of the narrative. That's what this is about. And it's also about the fact that you want to have a comedy show, you probably should be funny. And I think that the left has gotten really lazy. You've seen this with Hollywood as well. They just do the same thing over and over again. They insert politics where doesn't belong. They're going to have to get back to the drawing board, be creative, do some work and come up with something new. And it's not like he's going away. He could do other things. He just can't do it for a loss of $40 million a year.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Harold Ford things have changed. The media landscape has totally changed and continues to evolve. You have streaming and podcasts and YouTube. In some ways I feel like a dinosaur in some ways because I don't fully understand and I'm just now beginning to participate, listening to my kids and for that matter consuming media that way. I think you're right. When this kind of things happens, you should watch who's number one and figure out what he's doing. And if you don't like his message, you like part of his message, figure out how you do it. The God number one is sitting right here to my left. He's figured this thing out. So night, the late night can do. You just got to have the right thing to do now. It's interesting to me to hear Democrats, my pals, calling for investigations and hearings into a person losing a late night show. We haven't asked for a hearing on what regulations are working, what taxes are working, if FEMA has what it needs, if we have sirens and systems and communities and camps all across this country to ensure that we don't have what happened in Texas, yet we have the gall to ask for a hearing. I like Stephen Colbert, he's a pal. But we don't need to be investigating why CBS did what they did. Get back to doing your job. If you believe things are being censored, then get better ideas and call for better hearings.

[Tyrus]

He's your pal. We can't be friends anymore.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

If he'd watch your show, he might still have it.

[Tyrus]

I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Can I just add something? Because Katie made me think of something that, you know, they always used to say, DC is Hollywood for ugly people. Hollywood is now ugly people for ugly people. Have you noticed that the standards for beauty. I try to watch stuff and I saw a brand new show and the co star who was a female, had a mustache.

[Greg Gutfeld]

A mustache.

[Tyrus]

Come on. You couldn't find a woman who didn't have a mustache.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

This is.

[Tyrus]

But it is like They've just given up. We don't need to be funny, we don't need to be well written and we don't even need to be attractive.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yep, make Hollywood hot again.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Katie Pavlich]

There you go.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You heard it here. Ahead, Gavin Newsom melts down after an iconic burger shop moves its headquarters out of his crime ridden state.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

When times on my mind were kind Eyes are on my heart. I've been sweating for my wages but.

[Greg Gutfeld]

She, you got.

[Tyrus]

She'S California leaving the CEO of the Golden State's iconic In N Out burger joint revealing that she's moving her whole family out of the blue state bubble of high crime, tent cities and poop maps packing up and heading for red state Tennessee.

[In-N-Out CEO]

There's a lot of great things about California, but raising a family is not easy here. Doing business is not easy here. There were so many pressures and just hoops we were having to jump through. You know, you've got to do this. They have to wear a mask. They have put this plastic thing up between us and our customers and it was really terrible, you know, and I look back and I'm like, man, maybe we should have just pushed even harder on some of that stuff.

[Tyrus]

Gavin Newsom is clearly nervous over the move. His office putting out a tweet that claims the CEO is only leaving to expand the chain east and that in and out continues to expand in California. Harold, you are a big fan of the old In n Out and the burger joint. Do you think she, you know, she's, she has a point. I mean, you don't remove the homeless. You legalize mass theft. You don't arrest people who kind of like loiter and stand outside. The cops have no power. Why shouldn't she leave?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

She has every right to. We live in a free country. And people who want to leave from Florida to go places or New York to go places or California to go places, you think about the early 20th, early to mid 20th century. So many people in the south move to the North. What generally motivates that? Or more opportunities? Cost of living, as she talked about high costs and high taxes and even, maybe even crime. So I'm not, I'm not surprised that people are going to do this. I think one of the great things was reading a piece the other day that showed where young people are moving to in the last three or four years because of affordability and opportunity. Birmingham, Alabama was the top of the list. I can't imagine 15 years ago that kids in New York and Philadelphia and Miami and Detroit say, you know what? I Think I want to go to Birmingham. Things happen. And if California gets their act, gets their act better, New York gets its act better. People will make that their first destination. The reality is if you gave people the money they needed, people would probably want to live in California. You're from there. It's one of the prettiest places in the world. But it probably is too expensive for businesses to start. And there are probably some other reasons people want to move. So I say hooray. And she decided to go to my home state, Tennessee. So God bless her.

[Tyrus]

You know, Jesse, we do these segments regularly on the five people leaving, getting in U Hauls and yet we stay here because Fox won't move. Isn't it a bit hypocritical for us to do these stories? And yet we're stuck here in this cesspool.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Do you have. Many times I've told the executives that I want a bureau in Florida? Yes, we want a Palm beach bureau. It doesn't have to be Palm Beach. It could be Miami, it could be Naples. But we want to spend half the year plus one day in beautiful south Florida. But the problem with California is not the climate. It is the business climate. It is a toxic brew of lawyers, communists and a super majority of Democrats in Sacramento that overregulate the state. Did you know, Greg?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That California has 420,000 regulations?

[Tyrus]

I might.

[Greg Gutfeld]

420,420. That's triple the amount of average regulations the state has. There's this guy, Hispanic guy, tried to buy a grocery store in skid row. Wasn't going to demolish it, wasn't going to turn into a bathing suit factory. He just wanted to make it another grocery store. It took two years to complete the sale of a grocery store. So for two years the people in the skid row neighborhood couldn't buy groceries there. So you know what happened? Cannibalism?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They started eating themselves and that's what happened. California turning people into cannibals.

[Tyrus]

I don't believe that. Check your facts, Katie. But you know, he may, the nitwit may be maybe lying, but at a certain point the only people who will enjoy the beauty and the weather of California will be the rich and the homeless. But everything in between is gone. It's like, it is like a dystopian.

[Jesse Watters]

Nightmare because people who have means have the opportunity to leave for a better life. But other people are trapped there. As a result of these policies, I think we have to revoke the name Golden State. It's not that Golden Anymore. And it's shower or you could add that. But it's so typical of someone like Gavin Newsom, who is a bureaucrat who wants to control people's lives, clear by the hundreds of thousands of regulations they have to. Instead of saying, we're so sorry you feel this way, what can we do to keep you here? You employ thousands of people in the state. How can we help you remain here with your family? Instead, he basically berates her and shames her. And it's like, well, other business leaders are watching and they will do the same thing and they will leave. Under Gavin Newsom, over the last couple of years, the state's lost 6,100 jobs. That's a lot. Including 9,000 layoffs in business and professional services. This is a slow bleed. People are not moving into California. They're moving out. And the people who pay the taxes are moving out. So all of these programs that Democrats want to continue are going to have nothing left to draw from when it comes to funding them, because everybody's leaving.

[Katie Pavlich]

This is the take my ball, I'm going to take my ball and I'm going to go home situation is happening in so many of these blue states. And Covid was eye opening in California. Remember that female restaurant owners who tried to keep her business open? She said, I'll move outside, I'll serve people outside. And they shut her down and they wouldn't let her operate. And meanwhile, Hollywood movie studio was in business and operating right next to her. That was painful for a lot of folks. Right now. People know that they can move. And Harold, I would be hard pressed to find anybody with four kids, like that woman, the heiress to In N Out Burger, who are moving to blue states. You have a family, you're looking out for their safety and their future. And those are the folks that are looking for the freedoms of the red states.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Well, how come they don't like what Trump's doing on the economy? I hear you. I'm just saying that we shouldn't make these, like, declarative, sweeping statements. This happens in America. People move.

[Tyrus]

What you said, don't make declarative, sweeping statements. What do you think you are?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I mean, what would we have to say?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

The country, California is one of the most beautiful places in the world. Hopefully they get, you know, what you like. Hopefully they get there, get their politics. Right. I'm agreeing with you.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, but you're like the guy who points out the obvious that the supermodel's hot. Yeah, we get it. But she's a nutcase.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Like, for you, all the same people are moving where they can afford things. They were like, that's not.

[Jesse Watters]

I was in California. There was a guy on the beach sucking his own toe.

[Tyrus]

Oh.

[Jesse Watters]

We gotta go.

[Tyrus]

All right, fastest. Up next.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Dawn trusts Prevagen for her welcome back. Summer concerts are getting dangerous. Katy Perry just had a scary moment at a San Francisco show after the giant butterfly prop she was on suddenly dropped midair. Look at that. Thank God she's okay. Jesse, you've been to concerts this year or say anything like that?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I was in a concert last night, which explains my general lack of energy today. But we saw Zach Bryant at MetLife, and Bruce Springsteen actually came and did a little cameo. And I didn't boo because I can separate the artist from the politics. Other people aren't that sophisticated. But there was no one riding a butterfly. Except there was a few kids who dropped acid and they were handcuffed and then got taken out for pretending to ride a butterfly.

[Jesse Watters]

Is that a Zach Bryan show?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Greg, last show you've seen. You see. What are your thoughts on this?

[Tyrus]

I wish she had dyed her hair blonde.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Her hair blonde?

[Tyrus]

Because I loved her hair. Do you remember when her hair was blonde? Sandra, that was amazing.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

This is.

[Tyrus]

Think about it. She's getting lousy press. Ticket sales are so. So she just got millions of free advertising by staging this. This is a great little prank. It tells people she's not only on tour, but you could also see her plunge all the way down and up. This is all a game. It's totally planned.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Sandra, most recent concert. You see anything like this?

[Katie Pavlich]

No. And thankfully, she didn't fall. It didn't fall. It just slipped on the line like there was too much slack in the line.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Hmm. Ada, you got thoughts about this?

[Jesse Watters]

I mean, for an astronaut, you think she'd handle flying?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I saw the Allman Brothers, or the Brothers, as they call them. Nobody did anything like that. One more thing is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I hear it all the time.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jesse Watters]

Hunter Biden is going on a warpath. On the one year anniversary of his dad, Joe Biden dropping out of the 2024 race, the felon son raged against George Clooney and other Democrats who he believes undermined pop, him and everybody around him.

[Hunter Biden]

George Clooney is not a actor. He is a, like, I don't know what he is. He, he, he's a brand. James Carville, who hasn't run a race in 40 years. David Axelrod, who had one success in his political life and that was Barack Obama, and that was because of Barack Obama. Pod Save America. Guys who were junior speech writers in, you know, on Barack Obama's Senate staff who have been dining out on the relationship with him for years, making millions of dollars. What influence does Jake Tapper have over anything? He has the smallest audience on cable news.

[Jesse Watters]

I have a headache from all the beeping. Hunter also flying off the handle at the Americans who want to deport the millions of illegals his dad let into the country.

[Hunter Biden]

People are really upset about illegal immigration. You, how do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How do you think you got food on your table? Who do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think does your garden? Who do you think is here by the sheer just grit and will? If I became president, I would pick up the phone and call the president of El Salvador and say, you either send them back or I'm gonna invade.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay. And while Hunter rages, we are learning how the DNC did an audit after action review of why Democrats lost the 2024 election, but conveniently doesn't mention Joe and Kamala. Well, Greg, I guess it's good that Hunter Biden is raging on a podcast instead of going to a rager in his carpet.

[Tyrus]

I have so many mixed feelings. First, you know he's talking about illegals. I seem to remember from a police report he tried to get the police off his back over a missing gun by implicating illegals. Like he said, those guys over there, they're illegal. So he's not a saint when it comes there. But if you look Democrats, if you listen to him, what he's been trying to. What has Democrats been trying to do all six months? Try to be authentic. They try to fake swear to a lot of theater. That's Real swearing. You gotta give it to him. That guy is authentic. He's the real deal. And dare I say, I like him. I get that he's defending Joe and Jim, his brother, right. It's his dad. And I disagree with him on that. But he isn't wrong when he's going after the establishment. And I'm thinking Democrats, especially Carville. Carville said that they're looking for their savior. It's this guy. He's the most direct, honest person the party has. He's very likable. And you have to understand, you can say, oh, but he's a drug addict. You have to understand about drug addicts and alcoholics. That guy managed to make millions and millions of dollars while high. And that's the secret, is that you have to be super competent when you're a junkie or else people will disown you. So he actually works extra hard. If he's truly in recovery, he will be legitimately dangerous. Just like rfk, who's beholden to no ideology whatsoever. That's my theory. I'm going with it. And you're welcome on my show.

[Jesse Watters]

There you go. Good open invite. So, Jesse, I actually think he has a point with a lot of this. I mean, they totally knifed Joe Biden and, you know, said he couldn't win and tried to push him out for a month. And then when he didn't want to go, they kept leaking stories and Nancy Pelosi came around and Clooney wrote that op ed that finally got the ball moving. I mean, he's not wrong when he says they really didn't do him much service.

[Greg Gutfeld]

When Roman emperors used to murder their political rivals, Katie, they used to not just murder the rival, they'd murder the entire family. Because if you leave the street son alive, he'll spend the rest of his life seeking revenge. And they may have killed off Joe Biden, but Hunter Biden is very much alive. And make no mistake, everything he's saying is exactly what Joe Biden is thinking. This is dark. Brandon Jr. Greg's right. This is the guy the memo was about. This is a guy who doesn't give an F. He's macho, he's bold to say that they're going to invade El Salvador to bring back the bad hombres. That's like left wing Trump. This is what they've been looking for. Gavin Newsom doesn't have an ounce of that kind of swagger, cuz that is real.

[Tyrus]

I agree.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We are in agreement there. The problem with the Democratic Party the autopsy, whatever you want to call it. They don't even want to talk about Biden. They don't want to see Joe. They don't want to see Hunter. But this guy is going to be on a revenge tour the likes of which we've never seen. And his dad is writing a book, so they're never going to get rid of him. The only way they do it, Tom Homan, has to deport the Biden family to go spend time with Iris. Rosie. And I bet the Democrats would say, Tom, get him out.

[Jesse Watters]

Or they could call Hillary Clinton. She knows a few people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's true.

[Jesse Watters]

Harold, on this autopsy report, can Democrats really move forward if they don't acknowledge Kamala and Joe's participation in the last election? Because people see it as a cover up, including the party. Or do you think they can just move forward without mentioning them?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

We should just move forward and be honest. Now, I would remind everybody around the table when President Trump ran in 2016, there had been an autopsy done by the Republican Party saying that they needed to appeal more after the loss to Barack Obama, that they needed to appeal more to African American and Hispanic voters across the country. And President Trump, when he came down the escalator had a very, very different theory of the case as he talked about illegals here and rapists and thugs. And the Republican Party exploded. A lot of them, and I'll be nice about it, exploded in curiosity. None of them exploded in anger. He connected. He knew what was going on in the country. People who win presidential races connect with voters. Now, I hope that I'm never in a position where my son has to defend me like Hunter did. But I admire someone who defends his dad. I defend my dad that way as well. And anyone that has a kid would want their son or their daughter defending them like this. But I would remind everybody, including Hunter, two or three other things. One, had we had a different opinion on the border, we might have won. We didn't. We were wrong on the border. And that was the most explosive issue in the campaign. Little girls, little boys playing a little girl sports really, really rankled a lot of Americans and we had no good answer on it. I remind everyone that when Mr. Clinton, Mr. Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump debated, Mr. Biden didn't look like he knew where he was, but that he was able to rec had he done a good interview with George Stephanopoulos. And he didn't. So Democrats said, you can't do this. We need another candidate. Then you had Ms. Harris, Ms. Harris made the Mistake of going on view and being asked a very basic question in the middle of an election that was about change and was asked, what would you have done differently, anything you would do differently if you'd been president? She said, I can't think of anything we've done differently in a change election. Her name could have been Trump, Pence, Vance, Rubio or Clinton. If you say that and you're running and you are the what's happening that people don't like, you're not going to be voted for. Donald Trump lost in 2020 because people wanted to move on from that. So as much as I love the energy and the passion, there's some basics in politics. You have to connect with people, you have to represent people. If Mr. Biden had done what he said he's going to do, be a generational president and pass it on, we wouldn't be having the conversation we are right now. So as much as I admire the fire and the passion and the defense of your dad, at the end of the day, the voters spoke.

[Jesse Watters]

Sandra, There's a lot of passion. Passion.

[Katie Pavlich]

If I was cussing around the table, it'd be passion.

[Jesse Watters]

Not just once, like every two seconds.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I'm a diplomat, Sandra.

[Tyrus]

I'm a diplomat.

[Katie Pavlich]

I just keep thinking about the setup they did for the interview with this, you know, YouTuber. He's got over 3 million subscribers. I guess he's pretty popular. And Hunter Biden, apparently he met him, had a good connection with him. They sat down for hours, but they sat in nature.

[Jesse Watters]

It's a beautiful scene.

[Tyrus]

Is it weird for you to see him with his clothes on?

[Jesse Watters]

White picket fen. Nice change.

[Katie Pavlich]

White picket fence. And then he goes off and just like is screaming and cussing to the point where we can't even air it in its entirety. I'll just say this because I know we're short on time. Unless the autopsy report also looks back and says, okay, all the increased regulation over that period of time made it impossible for small businesses in this country to thrive. Unless they acknowledge the canceling of all of those federal oil leases all over the country that led to your high gas prices. Unless the autopsy looks back at the attacking of the rich that greatly employs the lower to middle class, the American people who voted for Donald Trump are gonna say nothing has changed with the Democrat Party.

[Tyrus]

You know what this autopsy is like? It's like a celebrity autopsy when they cite the cause of death as heart disease, hypertension, blood clots, liver failure. But underneath it all is one cause, like chronic lifelong alcoholism. There is an underlying cause to what they are identifying as the. As the secondary causes. And it's always going to be this identity politics which they weaponized into warfare.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, there's a policy problem. We will watch. All right, up next, the libs say democracy is dead because CBS dumped their $40 million loser. Stephen Colbert.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

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[Sandra Smith]

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[Harold Ford Jr.]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

The liberals are screaming about the death of democracy because CBS finally canceled their $40 million therapy session. Stephen Colbert getting the boot after his bosses did some basic math. Quote, the Late show is losing CBS 40 to 50 million bucks a year with a budget of more than 100 million per season. But now Democrats are demanding an investigation into the downfall of their beloved propaganda prince.

[Jesse Watters]

This has not been a great week for free speech and speaking truth to power.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

We are on the precipice of entering a censorship state. This is textbook authoritarian rule. Target your critic, centralize power in a few hands, intimidate through punishment or removal. And you know what that usually does? Shuts people the F up.

[Tyrus]

Okay, simply not funny. But also really scary, right? And even if it's not quid pro quo, the idea of self censorship.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Before we get started, I just have to issue a clarification. I like Will Cain. I was kidding. I want him to stay at 4. Everyone's texting me what a jerk I am. All right, so this was a mathematic problem.

[Katie Pavlich]

Which one? You dumping on Will? No, no, we love you.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, losing $40 million.

[Katie Pavlich]

Well, it's interesting, you know, apparently the advertisers had been going away for a while, which is a problem. Doesn't matter what your numbers are. If the advertisers are fleeing, that's going to be an issue. But I thought it was interesting when sources were reporting that he gets no advertising. Late night is a tough spot, said a person with direct knowledge of CBS's decision. I'm looking at you, Greg, because this person says, quote, gold. Colbert might be number one, but who watches late night TV anymore? I know who they watch.

[Tyrus]

Yes, it's me. Sometimes on tv, too. You're welcome to come to the show anytime you want.

[Jesse Watters]

Thank you, darling.

[Tyrus]

Thank you. And after the show, we can go for drinks.

[Katie Pavlich]

Okay.

[Tyrus]

Okay. These people, they're people that were complaining they're either so profoundly stupid or they're being deceptive because like Charlamagne, you're not a God when it comes to economics. They should be in vet. They should forget this whole. This political crap. They should be inspecting, investigating Paramount, that's a publicly traded company that has a responsibility to make money. Why did they keep a show on the air that consistently lost tens of millions of dollars? That's the question. Did they do that so they could have access to certain powerful people that are invited? On Colbert, I mean, you would not hide. If you were running a business, Charlamagne, and that person was in charge of your money and they were losing your money, would you keep them on or would you fire them? Or would you say, you know what if I fire them, that's fascistic and authoritarian, so I'm gonna keep them on? I mean, you could argue that fascism is behind every firing. They just love stuff that's subsidized. The libs think that the things that they like should be exempt from metrics of success. Government programs, npr, sanctuary cities. They saw Colbert as a government program. Sure, it costs millions and it sucks, but we feel good that it's on even if we don't watch it. We're not even burdened by the cost. So that's fascist. Even though they ignore other fascism. And you know what? I'll shut up after this. They can't handle losing one outlet of liberal indoctrination. How will they survive when they only have Kimmel and Seth Meyers and the View and abc, World News Tonight and NBC News and cbs, Good Morning America, Today show, cnn, msnbc, Hollywood, academia? How will you survive?

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know, the one interesting point Greg made there, there was only one, Katie, was that I would be interested in if Fallon is losing money or Kimmel is losing money, too. Because if you're a shareholder, why are you supporting a company that's knowingly losing money?

[Jesse Watters]

For years they kept his show for so long, and they're keeping it for another six months rather than saying it's over today because of his politics, not because he was liberal, because he was pushing a narrative that they liked because he was using his platform to benefit the Democratic Party. I mean, the fact that all of these politicians now in Washington, D.C. are coming out and their indignation and demanding an investigation for the sake of censorship. These are the same people who wanted people to lose their livelihoods if they disagreed. The same people who loved online censorship, who thought it was fine for the federal government, the Biden administration, to work with Social media companies to shadow, ban doctors and people with different opinions and political opposition to the Democratic Party. They were happy with doing all that kind of censorship, but when it comes to an economic decision, now all of a sudden they're saying that they're concerned when really it's all about just losing control of the narrative. That's what this is about. And it's also about the fact that if you want to have a comedy show, you probably should be funny. And I think that the left has gotten really lazy. You've seen this with Hollywood as well. They just do the same thing over and over again. They insert politics where doesn't belong. They're going to have to get back to the drawing board, be creative, do some work and come up with something new. And it's not like he's going away. He could do other things. He just can' do it for a loss of $40 million a year.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Harold Ford Things have changed. The media landscape has totally changed and continues to evolve. You have streaming and podcasts and YouTube. In some ways, I feel like a dinosaur in some ways because I don't fully understand and I'm just now beginning to participate, listening to my kids and for that matter, consuming media that way. I think you're right. When this kind of things happen, you should watch who's number one and figure out what he's doing. And if you don't like his message, you like part of his message, figure out how you do it. The guy number one is sitting right here to my left. He's figured this thing out. So the late night can do. You just got to have the right thing to do. Now it's interesting to me to hear Democrats, my pals, calling for investigations and hearings into a person losing a late night show. We haven't asked for a hearing on what regulations are working, what taxes are working, if FEMA has what it needs, if we have sirens and systems in communities and camps all across this country to ensure that we don't have what yet we have the gall to ask for a hearing. I like Stephen Colbert, he's a pal. But we don't need to be investigating why CBS did what they did. Get back to doing your job. If you believe things are being censored, then get better ideas and call for better hearings.

[Tyrus]

He's your pal. We can't be friends anymore.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

If he'd watch your show, he might still have it.

[Tyrus]

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Can I just add something? Because Katie made me think of something that, you know how they always used to say DC is Hollywood for ugly people. Hollywood is now ugly people for ugly people. Have you noticed that the standards for beauty. I try to watch stuff and I saw a brand new show and the co star was a female, had a mustache. Come on. You couldn't find a woman who didn't have a mustache. This is but it is like they've just given up. We don't need to be funny, we don't need to be well written and we don't even need to be attractive.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yep, make Hollywood hot again.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Jesse Watters]

There you go.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You heard it here. Ahead, Gavin Newsom melts down after an iconic burger shop moves its headquarters out of his crime ridden state.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Tyrus]

She's California leaving the CEO of the Golden State's iconic In N Out burger joint revealing that she's moving her whole family out of the blue state bubble of high crime, tent cities and poop maps packing up and heading for red state Tennessee.

[In-N-Out CEO]

There's a lot of great things about California, but raising a family is not easy here. Doing business is not easy here. There were so many pressures and just hoops we were having to jump through. You know, you've got to do this. They have to wear a mask. They have you put this plastic thing up between us and our customers and it was really terrible. You know, and I look back and I'm like, man, maybe we should have just pushed even harder on some of that stuff.

[Tyrus]

Gavin Newsom is clearly nervous over the move. His office putting out a tweet that claims the CEO was only leaving to expand the chain east and that in and out continues to expand in California. Harold, you are a big fan of the old In n Out and the burger joint. Do you think she, you know, she has a point. I mean, you don't remove the homeless. You legalize mass theft. You don't arrest people who kind of like loiter and stand outside. The cops have no power. Why shouldn't she leave?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

She has every right to. We live in a free country and people who want to leave from Florida to go places or New York to go places or California to go places. You think about the early 20th, early to mid 20th century. So many people from the south move to the North. What generally motivates that are more opportunities, cost of living, as she talked about high costs and high taxes and even, maybe even crime. So I'm not surprised that people are going to do this. I think one of the great things, I was reading a piece the other day that showed where young people are moving to in the last three or four years because of affordability and opportunity. Birmingham, Alabama was the top of the list. I can't imagine if 15 years ago that kids in New York and Philadelphia and Miami and Detroit say, you know what? I think I want to go to Birmingham. Things happen. And if California gets their act better, New York gets its act better, people will make that their first destination. The reality is if you gave people the money they needed, people would probably want to live in California. You're from there. It's one of the prettiest places in the world. But it probably is too expensive for businesses to start. And there are probably some other reasons people want to move. So I say hooray. And she decided to go to my home state, Tennessee. So God bless her.

[Tyrus]

You know, Jesse, we do these segments regularly on the five people leaving, getting in U Hauls, yet we stay here because FOX won't move. Isn't it a bit hypocritical for us to do these stories and yet we're stuck here in this cesspool.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Do you have many times I've told the executives that I want a bureau in Florida? Yes, we want a Palm beach bureau. It doesn't have to be Palm Beach. It could be Miami, it could be Naples. But we want to spend half the year plus one day in beautiful south Florida. But the problem with California is not the climate. It is the business climate. It is a toxic brew of lawyers, communists and a super majority of Democrats in Sacramento that overregulate the state. Did you know, Greg?

[Tyrus]

No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That California has 420,000 regulations?

[Tyrus]

Oh, my.

[Greg Gutfeld]

420,420. That's triple the amount of average regulations this state has. There's this guy, Hispanic guy, tried to buy a grocery store in skid row, wasn't going to demolish it, wasn't going to turn into a bathing suit factory. He just wanted to make it another grocery store. It took two years to complete the sale of a grocery store. So for two years, the people in the skid row neighborhood couldn't buy groceries there. So you know what happened? Cannibalism.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They started eating themselves and that's what happened. California. Turning people into cannibals.

[Tyrus]

I don't believe that. Check your facts, Katie. But you know, he may. The nitwit may be lying, but at a certain point, the only people who will enjoy the beauty and the weather of California will be the rich and the homeless. But everything in between is gone.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

It's like.

[Tyrus]

It is like a dystopian nightmare.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Yeah.

[Jesse Watters]

Because people who have means have the opportunity to leave for a better life, but other people are trapped there. As a result of these policies. I think we have to revoke the name Golden State. It's not the golden anymore. Or that shower, or you could add that. But it's so typical of someone like Gavin Newsom, who is a bureaucrat who wants to control people's lives. Clear by the hundreds of thousands of regulations they have to. Instead of saying, we're so sorry you feel this way, what can we do to keep you here? You employ thousands of people in the state. How can we help you remain here with your family? Instead, he basically berates her and shames her. And it's like, well, other business leaders are watching and they will do the same thing and they will leave. Under Gavin Newsom, over the last couple of years, the state's lost 6,100 jobs. That's a lot, including 9,000 layoffs in business and professional services. This is a slow bleed. People are not moving into California. They're moving out. And the people who pay the taxes are moving out. So all of these, these programs that Democrats want to continue are going to have nothing left to draw from when it comes to funding them because everybody's leaving.

[Katie Pavlich]

This is the take my ball, I'm going to take my ball and I'm going to go home situation is happening in so many of these blue states. And Covid was eye opening in California. Remember that female restaurant owner? We tried to keep her business open. She said, I'll move outside. I'll serve people outside. And they shut her down and they wouldn't let her operate. And meanwhile, Hollywood movie studio was in business and operating right next to her. That was painful for a lot of folks right now. People know that they can move. And Harold, I would be hard pressed to find anybody with four kids, like that woman, the heiress to In N Out Burger, who are moving to blue states. You have a family, you're looking out for their safety and their future. And those are the folks that are looking for the freedoms of the Red states.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Well, how come they don't like what Trump said on the account? I hear you. I'm just saying that we shouldn't make these declarative, sweeping statements. This happens in America. People move.

[Tyrus]

What he said, don't make declarative, sweeping statements. What do you think you are?

[Greg Gutfeld]

What would we have to say?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

The country. If California is one of the most. One of the most beautiful places in the world, hopefully they get, you know, what's so beautiful. Hopefully they get their. Get their politics. Right? I'm agreeing with you.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, but you're like the guy who points out the obvious, that the supermodel's hot. Yeah, we get it. But she's a nutcase.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

You're like, for you, all the same. People are moving where they can afford things. They were like, that's not obvious.

[Jesse Watters]

California. There was a guy on the beach sucking his own toe.

[Tyrus]

Oh.

[Jesse Watters]

We gotta go.

[Tyrus]

All right, FAST is up next.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Hunter Biden]

To tell you that Mint's offer of.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

If we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[In-N-Out CEO]

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[Harold Ford Jr.]

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[In-N-Out CEO]

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[Harold Ford Jr.]

Speed slow after 35 GB of networks busy. Taxes and fees extra. See mint mobile.com welcome back. Summer concerts are getting dangerous. Katy Perry just had a scary moment at a San Francisco show after the giant butterfly prop she was on suddenly dropped midair. Look at that. Thank God she's okay. Jesse, you've been to concerts this year and say anything like that?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I was at a concert last night, which explains my general lack of energy today. But we saw Zach Bryant at MetLife and Bruce Springsteen actually came and did a little cameo. And I didn't boo because I can separate the artist from the politics. Other people aren't that sophisticated. But there was no one riding a butterfly. Except there was a few kids who dropped acid and they were handcuffed and then got taken out for pretending to ride a butterfly.

[Jesse Watters]

That is Zach Bryan show.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Greg, last show you've seen. You see. What are your thoughts on this?

[Tyrus]

I wish she had died. Her hair blonde. Her hair blonde because I loved her hair. Do you remember when her hair was blonde? Sandra, that was amazing.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

This is.

[Tyrus]

Think about It. She's getting lousy press. Ticket sales are so. So she just got millions of free advertising by staging this. This is a great little prank. It tells people she's not only on tour, but you could also see her plunge all the way down and up. This is all a game. It's totally planned.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Sandra, most recent concert. You see anything like this?

[Katie Pavlich]

No. And thankfully, she, like, she didn't fall. It didn't fall. It just slipped on the line like there was too much slack in the line.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Hmm. Ada, you got thoughts about this?

[Jesse Watters]

I mean, for an astronaut, you think she'd handle flying better?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

I saw the Allman Brothers, or the Brothers, as they call them. Nobody did anything like that. One More Thing is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I hear it all the time.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Okay, I'm with you on it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Good.

[Katie Pavlich]

It's time for One More Thing, Greg.

[Tyrus]

All right, Tonight we got a great show. Madison Allworthy, please come to the show. Dave Landau, Michelle Tafoya, and Tyrus. Let's do this.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Oh, it was a hot weekend, which means the view is going to the beach. Check them out. Enjoying the water. It was delightful. They like to get down to the bottom and just take a nap. Look at that. Joy Behar enjoying the cool temperatures. Actually, that's a family of hippos taking snooze at the Cincinnati Zoo. Okay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I love it.

[Katie Pavlich]

Lovely. Jesse.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, man. All right, so this was Zach Bryant last night. Here I am at the MetLife concert. That's how you pull off white jeans. Everybody thinks it's a flamboyant metrosexual look. That's how you do it. For those of you guys who are interested, it was a great night. As I said, Bruce came in and just shook it all down. You're not allowed to film the show, Greg. There's a rule against that. And tonight, Jesse Ward's primetime Johnny was asking about Obama's Rules for Men. Watch.

[Tyrus]

Should men be expected to provide?

[Harold Ford Jr.]

Always. Men used to go to war.

[Katie Pavlich]

Now they do nothing.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

They sit on the beach in Jersey in tan all day.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's what I'm saying.

[Hunter Biden]

Wow.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Tan all day.

[Katie Pavlich]

Congratulations.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

This week. Okay, this week.

[Katie Pavlich]

Thank you for that, Dusty, Harold.

[Harold Ford Jr.]

This week, Paris unveiled a new mural that honors American born entertainer and French, British and US Central Intelligence worker Josephine Baker. She was the first black woman to star in a major motion picture. God bless her and her family. Real symbol of strength and freedom. American and all. Thank you, young lady.

[Katie Pavlich]

Awesome. Lovely.

[Tyrus]

Can they fund it, Greg?

[Katie Pavlich]

This is Bougie Booze. A Hamptons restaurant is now selling an $8,000 martini. Okay, this is the rocks on rocks. It's served in a huge martini glass and it's garnished with 5 carat diamond tennis necklace that you then get to keep. And $1,000 from the purchases donated to the CH of the diner's Choice as well.

[Tyrus]

Katie.

[Jesse Watters]

All right. A Chicago coin dealer made a lucky discovery. Five coins that were tagged USS Yorktown. He found them in a ship, they were looted and they were returned to the US Navy recently. So very cool if you're a collector.

[Katie Pavlich]

Lovely. That does it for us. A numismatous. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world.

[Sandra Smith]

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