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Hello Everybody. I'm Martha McCallum along with Emily Compagno, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five huge developments today. Of course, the suspected killer of Charlie Kirk has been caught. 22 year old Tyler Robinson turned in to authorities late last night in Utah by his own father and now authorities are searching his house. They at one point asked the media to move back because of some concerning information. For more on what's going on on the scene right now, let's go to Matt Finn. He is in Washington, Utah, where the suspect lives. Hey Matt.
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Hi Martha. Behind me is the family home. And for the past couple of hours police have kept us pushed back because of what they called some concerning information. Earlier today we were able to get right up to the house but then they asked us to step back not too long ago. So they're obviously not telling us what the threat may have been. But right now it doesn't seem as urgent as it was a few hours ago. And if I step off camera and we press in, you could see or at least make out a gray Dodge Challenger. That's interesting because authorities say the shooter, Tyler Robinson, drove a Dodge Challenger on and off the campus when he allegedly assassinated Charlie Kirk. So when we got to the family home here, we were surprised to see this car still sitting in the driveway because we imagined it may have been towed, you know, or impounded, but the car is still sitting here. Now the past couple days we've been at the crime scene a couple hundred miles north near the Salt Lake area. Now we're down in the St. George area. And a short while ago I spoke with a neighbor here who says unfortunately she's not surprised about the shooting. She says she feels like political hate has spread across the country. But she's also praising the shooter's parents for helping turn their own son in.
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I am so thankful for them that that had to be unbelievable decision and I should hope that all of us parents would do the same.
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Investigators Say video shows 22 year old Robinson jumping off the roof of a Utah Valley University building after he assassinated Kirk. Sometime afterward, he ditched a rifle wrapped in a towel in the nearby backyard. Investigators also say Robinson's father ultimately accompanied his son to surrender to the sheriff's office here in Washington county, where we are. President Trump tells Fox that a minister was involved as well. Now Utah's Governor Spencer Cox says they will seek the death penalty in this case. The shooter was booked into the Utah County Jail, which is where the shooting took place. Formal charges are expected to be announced next Tuesday, but we understand he was arrested on at least a capital murder charge. Martha?
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Matt, thank you very much. Now let's take a listen to some powerful words from the Utah governor, Spencer Cox, who spoke about how the community in Utah reacted to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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I want you to look at how Utahn's reacted the last two nights. There was no rioting. There was no looting. There were no cars set on fire. There was no violence. There were, there were vigils and prayers and people coming together to share the humanity. And that, ladies and gentlemen, I believe, is the answer to this.
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Spencer Cox has been a very strong voice in all of this this week. He's going to be on with Bret Baer at 6:00'. Clock. Harold, let me start with you. I want to get your reaction to what he said. He said that he had been hoping that this wasn't someone from Utah. He said, you know, I prayed for everything in this situation and I prayed that it wouldn't be one of us, I think were his words. But your thoughts on how the people there have reacted, Harold well, good to.
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Be with you and thanks for good to be back around the table. I'd say a couple things. I thought his words today were not only calming, but they were inspiring. He talked about not only he was very honest about saying this is we didn't want this. We didn't want to think that this came from within, from us. Now, it would have been sad if it had come from Nevada or Michigan or Tennessee or Texas also. But I respected his honesty. Two, he went on to say how we got to stop pointing fingers and we've got to figure out we have so many on ramps for the rage and the violence or for our disagreements to emerge into those areas. We got to figure out how we give people off ramps. I heard a guy today earlier, Martha, say that we've got to make disagreeing safe again. We've got to make debate safe again. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone or having a vigorous opposition to someone's position. But that doesn't mean it should turn into violence. Lastly, I thought his words the most inspiring part of what he did was talking to young people and saying that your politics and your expressions of your politics don't have to be consumed by rage you can have. And he said we need to take the example of Charlie Kirk and move forward with it, this technology. He also said social media is rotten and is ruining us in many ways. There was so much he said there and I didn't really know him before this. This is, this guy is an inspiring guy in politics to me. He and I do not share the same political party, but we share the same vision for our country. So I thank him and salute him and I look forward to seeing him a little later. I think he's going to be on, like you said, Brett's show a little later tonight.
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You know, Jesse, it was alluded to in the intro, but think about the decision that this family made. And there's a report in the Guardian tonight that the family is really conservative, leaning on the whole. And, and a neighbor or a friend from high school described Tyler Robinson as pretty left on everything. And he said his family is hard gop. He's the only one who is not in this case. And this father and the minister or the pastor who, I mean, you had to have known when you saw that image. Everybody in his world knew it was him. I mean, it was pretty clear from those photos if that's your child or that's your next door neighbor, you're going to look at it and say, well, that's Tyler Robinson. Your thoughts on how this played out, Jesse?
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Well, so he's a smart kid and he got a scholarship and dropped out after one semester. So something happened in the first semester and it went crazy. And so he went back to live with his parents and then he isolated and became all online and went loco. And he was a bad seed and the family did the right thing and I'm glad they did. I want to talk about Charlie, though. I'm still shook. I can't believe it. It's not going away, this feeling that I have. We were at a funeral service for Emma's grandmother last night and everyone came up to me and talked about Charlie. He touched so many people and he died honorably. He died fighting in the battle of ideas. And that's what he loved to do. He loved to do battle verbally. And the left is losing the battle of ideas and they're losing badly. They're losing on dei, on trans, on the border on crime. And because they can't win an argument, they're trying to kill. And so our response has to be. We have to do what Charlie would have wanted to do. We have to win. We have to win at the ballot box. We have to win at the marketplace. We have to win online, at the universities. We have to politically destroy the Sikh movement that's giving birth to these killers. And I don't care what you have to do. We can love them, but we don't give them any quarter. Enough is enough. This ends now. And there is a wicked strain that's bubbling up, and you see it all over the place, and we know who we're talking about, and it's permeated the media, the culture, and even Congress, and it has to be cordoned off and eliminated. We've done this with other factions in our political past. We've did it with communism, with racism. It's been done before. Anarchism. It can be killed figuratively. And we'll do it with charm, with grace, the way Charlie did. He smiled, he listened, he engaged, and he won. Now, you just mentioned it. We have to agree to disagree. We do it on the show every day, and like, no one hates each other here. We love everybody at this table, and we love everybody in the country, and we just have to start. Stop hurting each other, and it shouldn't be that hard.
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Emily.
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Yeah. Charlie Kirk was larger than life. And I think in part because not only did he impact millions of people, but because under every circumstance, under every normal circumstance where any ordinary human would lose their temper or become flapped or somehow show a modicum of a raised heart rate or a heated tone, he remained unflappable. He remained committed to the love of Jesus Christ, to having faith permeate all of his answers, and through it all, a calm, respectful demeanor that gave honor to not only every conversation, but every human that engaged with him, every human who approached him without an honorable motive, many who wanted to catch him in a gotcha moment or to embarrass someone of conservative thought, but instead, he rose above it all. And my point is that just as the governor said, the bullet did not just pierce the Charlie Kirk, but it pierced this idea that there is room for civil, peaceful discourse, that humans can connect and that that can rise above the radicalization online, the violent rhetoric that has permeated political tribalism in this country. And so, too, the killer, he too, represented an idea, in my opinion, that a conditioning, a programming, a radicalization from rhetoric fomented online can result in these people that have justified and have normalized and have somehow become immune to violence. And what do we expect if people and congresspeople, which we'll get into a bit later, are allowed to describe humans and the President and thought leaders as villains, as ultimate demons. What else is there to be expected? But I have faith too, not only in Jesus, but also in Charlie Kirk's legacy. And we saw it earlier on this network today when the President of the turning point in Oklahoma spoke and he said the shot that killed Charlie was like the shot heard round the world. So here we had a young person who was quoting history and at a moment in the American Revolution, the beginning of the American Revolution, to make the point that the mantle will be carried on not necessarily by one person because Charlie's shoes cannot be filled, but by the millions of young people and old people alike that Charlie inspired that will say, debate me peacefully. And here I am, ready to receive your questions peacefully. And here I am knowing that you can't prove me wrong.
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So, Greg, Charlie said, when things are moving very fast and people are losing their minds, it's important to stay grounded. Turn off your phone, read scripture, spend time with friends, and remember, Internet fury is not real life.
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Well, you know, the governor was trying to show a contrast by saying we're not rioting, we're not looting. And there is a contrast here. And it's undermining this entire discussion about efforts to engage. Charlie was killed for what he said. There is a history of this. What speech is shut down most frequently on campus? Conservative speakers. Who gets targeted at events? Conservatives. So within this opposition bubble, it's not really about the ideas. It's the belief that you shall not be heard. It's the heckler's veto that has been armed and justified. So it's not a two way street. Liberal speakers, they have no fear on campus. Nobody's picketing what they have to say. Why is that? It's because no one calls them fascists. Cause, meet effect. The word was fascist. Something that we get called a lot. It's the persuasive drumbeat of repetition, the persuasive drumbeat of repetition that hypnotizes the many and energizes the few. It's a word fascism that has been officially sanctioned by the media. Democrat, industrial complex. Evidence of conversations with the killer show that he lived in a bubble where that was his oxygen. The killer exposed what Charlie was doing when he would come to campuses, trying to show them that their ideas were not their own, that you are not thinking for yourself in a way. I mean, we keep hearing, you know, we've been hearing about that baby Hitler question like you know, if you had the opportunity, would you kill baby Hitler? Well, the bubble that this guy lived in had him convinced that's what he was doing, that he would be heroic. Let's face it, if Charlie hadn't been killed in 10, 15, 20 years, he would have been president. He had the talent stack, no question. That office was for him. So the left created a moment that taking out Kirk was. Was like taking out a Baby Hitler 2.0. I've said this on the show over the years, that when you brand someone a Nazi or a fascist, you put everything on the table to stop them. If you don't stop them, you are immoral. You have to do everything you can to stop a Nazi or Hitler or a fascist. Could have been any one of us, but I'll tell you, it never would have been Colbert or Don Lemon or Morning Joe, because again, they aren't called fascists or Nazis. You could say we call people socialists, but that doesn't have the same flame, the same fear. So here's what, here's from my perspective, what Charlie's death can do to change the world in the immediate sense. The next time you're at a dinner, remember this killer was at a dinner, was talking about Kirk being a fascist. The next time you're at a Christmas dinner or Thanksgiving and your 22 year old niece or nephew calls grandpa fascist because he's wearing a MAGA hat, or you call your dad a fascist because he voted for Trump, you have to respond with a simple question. You called me a fascist. And what is it, would you, what is it you would hope to result from that label? I mean, what do we do with fascists? We have an example. On September 5, 2025, they acted on what they perceived to be a fascist. Do you want your grandfather to die? Do you want me to die? What is your intention when you call somebody a fascist? So what that does is you force people to do what Charlie was trying to do. Force them to think and not to recite. Because right now, in this hypnotic world of repetition, they are simply reciting things. They are not thinking. They are not thinking. They are a product of brainwash. So this is a moment where you can show people where labeling ends up.
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Well said. All right, we're going to take a quick break. And coming up next, Ilhan Omar making some awful comments about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Next.
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The suspected assassin of Charlie Kirk is now in custody. And as we reflect on the tragedy, what's probably not helping is the divisive rhetoric, like recent comments from Congresswoman Omar and Congresswoman Crockett.
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There are a lot of people who.
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Are out there talking about him, just wanting to have a civil debate.
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A.
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Complete rewriting of history.
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Yeah, there is nothing more effed up.
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These people are full of me calling.
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You, you know, I want to be Hitler. All those things are like not necessarily saying go out and hurt somebody.
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And this is disturbing. There are reports of teachers and firefighters and other officials being put on leave or fired over posts where they celebrate. Celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. People can have differing ideas and different opinions, but we used to be a society, Greg. When in death, whether you disagree with the person like the person or not, we could at least show some decency. Where have we. Where have we sunk to this point as well?
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Well, you know, it was fun. I was scrolling down X and I found a story of a teacher celebrating crook's death. And I make a note of it. I'm going to use this for my show. And then there was another one. A hospital worker and then a councilman and then a college professor and then a politician. I couldn't keep up. It wouldn't end. It was not. It was. It was being documented by liberals on TikTok. I felt a physical revulsion no different than turn over a rock and seeing a vast network of worms. The ugliness is granular. And I'm sure, like, if you look at, like when Lincoln was shot, there were people cheering. When JFK was killed, there were people that were happy. So those end up being like a short phrase in a history book or in a movie by Oliver Stone. But we catalog it, it's there, it's documented, and it's such a low bar for public expression that it's amplified. But to me it's not. You know, those opinions, not the politicians, but just the everyday people. It's amazing how shocked they are when they get fired. That's the story. Because they assume that their opinion is widely accepted and condoned and their bubble has deceived them into thinking it is. They have not left that world. And so when they say, I'm glad he's dead. And people are like, what? They're like, wait, what did I say that was wrong? What is it? They have been brainwashed. They assume they're voicing. A conventional assumption the way a hypnotized kid assumes that clucking like a chicken at an assembly is appropriate. No, you were just hypnotized. You know, we're all in silos, obviously, but we get out more. We don't go online and wish death because we're aware of our surroundings and we understand it. But there are people that don't do that. Look at Stephen King. He went on X and said that Kirk wanted a stone gaze. He since took it down. But you know, how does that happen? He is living in some kind of world where he thought that was not just true, that it was okay to talk about.
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Martha, your thoughts on this?
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You know, I mean, a couple of things. One of the things that I've said this week is that I hope that this terrible assassination has caused some people who never watched what he was doing, never watched the debate tapes, didn't see prove me wrong. Watch him go back and forth with people are now actually doing that. And that when they do that they say, oh, you know what, he seems like a sweet guy, somebody whose heart is in the right place. And that that's an eye opening experience. One of the things that I find really interesting is what is happening at the major networks. I don't know if it's too late for them already, but you're seeing the opposite response that we saw after George Floyd where they all sort of like, we better get in line and we better put out our memo and our statement about how we feel about Black Lives Matter. We're on the right page. We're doing this. So now, as you say, shock, like, you know, they fired Matthew Dowd because Matthew Dowd said hateful words lead to hateful actions. Like, I'm not surprised that this would have happened to him. Suggesting he then apologized, but he got fired. And in the statement, Brian Roberts and the leadership at NBC said this. Charlie was an advocate for open debate whose faith was important to him. Reminds us of the fragility of life and the urgent need for unity. And in our nation that is different. And what's happening at CBS is different. They're trying to backpedal, figure out how to get around actually speaking to the whole country again. And so I see the seeds of something happening here and hopefully there will be something positive.
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Prime time.
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There's a spiritual awakening going on and it's called a turning point. It's happened before in American history when the society gets sick and then all of a sudden something happens and you try to cleanse that evil from the country. I love what the media is doing. It's about damn time. And it's not cancel culture, okay? This is America healing. Cancel culture is when you say something politically incorrect about the WNBA or about COVID and then you lose your job. When you're celebrating death and fellow Americans getting shot in the head for freedom of speech, you're complicit, and you're part of the problem, and you don't belong in civil society. So I'm glad people are losing their jobs for this. Every person that loses their job for celebrating Charlie's assassination is a step in the right direction for this country. There is an assassination cult. We've seen the polling on it. 55% of Liberals think it's okay to politically assassinate people.
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All right?
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So you see it bubbling up on the Internet. And that's what Stephen King's problem is. He's in a cabin in the woods in Maine by himself behind a screen all day, and then he says something ridiculous and gets smacked around because the man hasn't touched another human being in three decades. And that's why Charlie was so impressive. He physically went out to the quad and was surrounded by flesh.
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He's the opposite of King.
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The exact opposite. He's looking people in the eyeballs. He's not behind a screen. I love what Cox said today. He said, get off the screen and touch the grass. People have to get outside and look at each other as human beings. And I believe we're starting to see that.
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You know, you'll appreciate this, that I always. I keep thinking of, you know, the breastplate of righteousness, but it's the shoes of peace. And so you have to. You travel. We are charged with traveling with shoes of peace and then using the sword of the spirit, the Holy Spirit that Charlie exemplified every time he opened his mouth. Look, you talked earlier about how the impunity with which liberals or people like this. This violent rhetoric, you know, flies out of their mouth. They have zero fear of any consequences. It reminds me of dating apps or going on a date. Women's worst fear is being killed. Men's worst fear is that the chick's going to be ugly. And that's exactly what it is with conservatives and liberals now in this climate where, horrifyingly, violence has been. Is. Has been numbed for the opiates. It's an opiate of the. Of the population. And here's the thing. This killer was 22. We know this. The killer of Annunciation Church a couple weeks ago was 23. So anyone who Claims that our young people is not highly susceptible to this. Again, conditioning and programming that is online, the root of it is exactly the violent rhetoric by these Congress people and senators and teachers and people in influential positions. Because that's what radicalization is. It's when things are repeated and it normalizes. So extreme language is all of a sudden it feels normal and then all of a sudden it's echo chambered and amplified in horrific algorithms like on X. So these guys just see it all the time and then all of a sudden they begin to feel us feel versus them. And then they isolate behaviorally and then they have psychological effects, anxiety. You know, I'm angry about this. So it overrides rational thought. And that is what inspires the offline violence, the online violent rhetoric. All of that leads to the offline violence. And there's a direct correspondence. So I truly hope, to your point, that everyone in these influential positions reimagines and reconsiders what comes out of their mouth because it can have indeed deadly consequences for everybody.
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One thing I saw so positive today, the Young Republicans of Connecticut and the Young Democrats of Connecticut, leaders of both of those groups, they did a joint statement condemning and something that Charlie certainly would be proud of seeing that kind of civil debate. Up next, President Trump announcing the next city for his crime crackdown.
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Rough, dry eye.
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President Trump announcing new tour locations for his highly successful crime crackdown in Washington D.C. memphis is.
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That's the next city.
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Deeply troubled. And the mayor is happy. He's a Democrat mayor. The mayor is happy. And the governor. Tennessee. The governor is happy. Deeply troubled. We're going to fix that just like we did Washington. We'll straighten that National Guard and anybody else we need. We'd love to save Chicago. We don't want to go into a hostile. By the way, the people will greet us. Right? But you know, they have professional agitators. They're professional. Well, Harold, it still seems awkward talking about anything besides Charlie. Kirk, you know, crime is still an issue. It's still related to what we saw out there in Utah. Did you watch the remarks today on Fox and Friends?
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I did. I thought and I'm from Memphis. 20 years ago I was the congressman in Memphis. Right. Over 20 years ago. As I've said on the show, I think any community in the country where you have high incidences of crime, particularly violent crime, you want more law enforcement presence. So having the National Guard anywhere, if there's cooperation and coordination with the local police, I think is a positive thing. Now, I've said many times also what we really need after this, because the National Guard, remember, are your neighbors, are our neighbors who are asked and tasked to do these important jobs. But they can't stay in Memphis or Baltimore or Philadelphia or Chicago or New York or D.C. indefinitely. The last time we had a national crime bill was back in the early 90s. There was a guy named Bill Clinton, a Democrat who was president, who hired 100,000 more cops, gave money for more prosecutors, gave summer job money to cities and introduced and helped usher in community policing. Can you imagine? President Trump has control of the House and the Senate because Republicans have the majority. If they passed a crime bill that said we're going to give more money to cities than in cash bail. Once you end cash bail, you'll get more money to hire and train cops. You'll have more money to prosecute violent criminals. We'll give you more money to buy state of the art weaponry and we'll give you more money, we'll give you money to actually enhance some of the education, other activities initiatives in your city to try to also tamp down on young people committing criminal acts. And in D.C. the mayor there said she hopes that President Trump will give them more money to build more jails because they need more space. That's the responsible federal, sustainable thing to do. But I applaud what the president's doing temporarily. This is a band aid fix, but if you really want it to sustain, pass a national crime bill in 2025. Mr. President, Mr. Johnson and Mr. Thune.
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You think that's a good idea?
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I do. But I would say I appreciated the president's focus this morning on professional agitators coming from the West Coast. I still see the rot that exists in a lot of these west coast cities as the result of these very insidious small tumors that grew over the West Coast. Portland is an example, and I've mentioned it before, and it is dead. The amount of businesses that have fleed. There's no business incentives. And the whole point is it could have been prevented if there was a little bit of effort on enforcing law and order. I'll never forget being in a law firm there at the time. I was on one of the top floors looking down into the street where I saw at that point the, you know, the riot cops that are out with the shield and all that stuff with the tiniest but, you know, tiny but mighty group of agitators. And I was shocked at the amount, the impact that these destructive forces can have when they are not met with equal force, with federal force, with a way to say this is unacceptable in our cities. So I agree that comprehensive reform would be welcome in the form of resources that are stewarded adequately and accurately, meaning pipeline to law enforcement. But we have to identify it's not, you know, that antifa that still exists. People who are driving around bumper stickers that say resist, ask them what they mean by that. Because if they are any way supporting the people that are still shattering windows downtown and writing ACAB on cop cars and the like, that is part of the problem that foments this. That is why people. It leads to dying and being discarded in these inner cities. So that's the answer.
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That's not the problem in Memphis, what you're describing, but I hope that we don't have that issue. But that also butts up against the First Amendment also. But I hear you, the West Coast.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Martha.
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I just think, you know, I remember being in Minneapolis on the ground there after the George Floyd riots, and the people that we talked to in the communities that surrounded Minneapolis of all diverse backgrounds, they're like, we need more cops. And all they kept hearing from the leadership was that they wanted to defund them. And they were like, we're afraid to walk down the street. We have, you know, we have gang fire all over the place. Like three kids died in the next neighborhood over just being shot by stray bullets. So this is just something I agree with you. I don't know why Democrats and Republican Democrats could neutralize this issue for themselves if they wanted to.
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They should offer the bill. I'm in agreement with you. I don't know why the President should as well.
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Greg.
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Yeah, I love Trump saying people will greet us. They're like the benevolent army that's freeing cities under siege. And now it's on tour. We did D.C. and by every metric, D.C. is a success. It's not hard to figure out why. If you have crime, you fight it. Pretty simple. You don't have to understand it, justify it, talk it out. You disincentivize it with punishment. You have people there who do their jobs. So how will the Dem and Herald by coming up with solutions shows you the giant hole that is there. How do the Dems respond? Will they admit that this works? Will they push aside their egos and their tds to step out of their bubble and work with Trump, which is what. What Harold always exemplifies. Or will they remain in their bubble and call everybody fascist? You know, right now, the opposition, the Democrats, they offer only rhetoric, fascist brand branding. And we know where that leads. This party as it stands, does not exist. Harold, you're the only person that is offering like non violent messages. You're the only person. And it's like, it's like you're sitting. You just did it now. And when you do that, it shows this glaring, missing, just vacuous pit called the Democratic Party.
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Where are they call with politics? Why don't the Republicans do it? Why don't they pass? What if they offer?
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They don't have to. Trump's doing it.
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But, but you can't. That's not.
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Offering a counterpoint.
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I agree.
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And people go, you know what, maybe that works. But, but it's just you and you're sitting here on the 5 when you should be like running the GD Party.
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Herald for president. I hear it again. I might coming up next because I know somebody in the White House. I could give them favors. Kamala and Joe throw down.
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Nice going.
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Biden world is exploding in anger at Kamala Harris after she called Joe's second term bid quote recklessness. Axios reports on a Biden staffer who said, quote, vice President Harris was simply not good at the job. Martha, a lot of stuff coming out of her book. What do you make, what do you make of the reaction to by the president, Steve?
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I mean, I think she's speaking the truth, actually. It was totally reckless. I think that it showed that she had no strength and no agency in the White House, which she admits in this book. She's like, if I'd spoken up, I don't think anybody would have said it would have taken me seriously. But it goes to this pact, this terrible pact that existed. And she says, you know, it was really up to Joe and Jill and everyone knew that. Well, hello Jill. I mean, people have said this, you know, endlessly watching this situation and this relationship. Why in God's name did you let your husband run when clearly it was time for him to end his career? He said he wanted to be a one term president when he came in. Bridge to the future. But you know, I think that unfortunately she's revealing a lot of like her true feelings about this, but none of it makes her appealing as another candidate the next time we're out.
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D
Totally. Harold, you all it does is confirm why she wasn't fit to be president or vice president if she doesn't even have a vertebrae enough to speak up. She was complicit too. Even if she feels it's because she didn't have a voice.
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Well, no vice president has ever told the president not to run. Listen, I have not found one ever do that and they work for the guy. What I find disheartening about the book is that she doesn't lay out what she would have done differently. I could. It's easy to say, look, I had to do this, it was a reckless decision on his part, but I'm the vice president. Here's what I would have done. I, I made a mistake telling the host of the View that I had no thought, had no things that I would do differently if I had been president the last four years. But here's what I would have done. I hope the book also enumerates some of the mistakes that she made because she made several during her campaign. But fundamentally I agree with you, Martha.
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She's right.
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F
He should not have run again. But hammering him and hammering him if you don't also talk about yourself is not going to make you a more qualified candidate for future office.
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D
Greg?
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Yeah. I so look forward to Kamala talking about the book. You know, we know she didn't write it. She's going to have to read it. But there's going to, it's, there's going to be no. Aside from the View, there will be no allies on that tour. Those news anchors, mostly Democrats, are embarrassed or ashamed by their own complicity in the last four years. She's not going to get by with a Xanax and a laugh. They're going to come for her. She claims she was hypnotized into believing Joe would be running her words hypnotized? Sound familiar? What were they? What was the common refrain? As Joe said, he's the only one who could beat this fascist. They justified Biden by saying the country could not survive. Trump, Hitler 2.0. Brainwash. Brainwash. It all began with Biden pushing fine people on both sides. Hoax, cause, effect.
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G
Kamala Harris was asked by Anderson Cooper, is Donald Trump a fascist? And she said, yes. And so this guy writes fascist, catch it on a bullet, shoots Charlie Kirk in the neck, and he's dead. And she's going on a tour to sell a book. About what? There's a famous line, it's like small people talk about other people, smart people talk about ideas. Charlie Kirk's talking about ideas. The whole country's talking about ideas. How to fight crime, how to deal with these migrants, how to make peace in Ukraine. And she's talking about Joe Biden didn't give her enough air cover when she used a stupid French accent and Fox mocked her. I mean, talk about small compared to the issues we're dealing with here.
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D
Well, up next, brand new details on the suspected assassin of Charlie Kirk.
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G
Touch can mean so.
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Recently we asked some people about sharing their New York Times accounts.
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D
My name is Dana.
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B
I am a subscriber to the New.
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D
York Times, but my husband isn't. And it would be really nice to be able to share a recipe or.
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B
An article or compete with him in wordle or connections.
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E
Thank you, Dana. We heard you introducing the New York Times family subscription, one subscription, up to four separate logins for anyone in your life. Find out more@nytimes.com family the suspect who cops say assassinated Charlie Kirk, now in custody as investigators search his electronics. Let's go right to David Spunt.
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D
Hey.
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David Robinson will face the death penalty. That's according to Utah's governor, Spencer Cox. Right now he's in the Utah County Jail, the same county where this tragic shooting took place on Wednesday. Authorities say he was identified by his car and his clothing. They also found messages on the bullets. We now know more about what was written. One of the bullets read, as you mentioned in the last break, hey, fascist. Exclamation point. Catch. Now, authorities released surveillance photos of him yesterday. It's notable that in an affidavit obtained by Fox News, an officer noticed the suspect walked with a gate and his right leg seemed stiff. Another source says that Fox that he indeed hid the rifle in his pants while he walked. Here's the FBI director as of this morning.
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Thanks to your great work. We have over 11,000 leads that were called in to the FBI and we are running out every single lead that we can. Every one of those leads will be run out.
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H
He was arrested on suspicion of capital murder, obstruction and other weapons offenses. He'll be charged next Tuesday in Utah for the state charges and that's where the death penalty comes in if found guilty. But I want to note that we're told it's very likely that federal charges from the Justice Department and Attorney General Pam Bondi will come at some point soon. We just don't know when and what those charges will be. Back to you.
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E
Thanks, David. One more thing's up next.
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D
Dinner time is taking.
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H
Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy Podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now@foxnewspodcast.com.
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D
So before we.
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B
Get to one more thing, catch the FOX News special coming this weekend, Charlie Kirk, an American Original, a look back at Charlie's life, 7pm Eastern on Saturday. All right, let's do one more thing. Harold, want to start?
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F
Well, it's your birthday, young fella.
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E
Yes, it is.
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F
In your face, exclamation point. Congrats on your birthday. Happy birthday.
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E
Thank you. I love the poo poo on the cake. That's my favorite topping.
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B
Is it real?
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D
I'm surprised that you agreed to do it. Usually you're not allowed to do bad things.
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F
How many years is it? Can you tell us or will you tell us?
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E
Well, I, you know, I'm in my 50s. If you go, if you add one.
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G
So you're 41 at her 49.
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I'm 61.
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D
Well, happy birthday.
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F
Everyone is a big one. Congrats, man. What are you guys, you guys doing anything special this weekend?
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E
Well, I have a nine month old baby at home, so you know what I'm doing?
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F
We're just celebrating.
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E
Yeah, we'll be celebrating, partying.
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B
What's your birthday wish? You gotta make dinner.
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E
My birthday wish? You don't know, but if you did, you'd be blushing.
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D
We wish you the best. We love you, Greg. Happy birthday.
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E
Happy birthday, brother. Watch my show tonight. It's on.
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B
Okay, Jesse, there it is.
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D
I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world.
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H
Listen and follow now@fox newspodcast.com Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.