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Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Katie Pavla, Terry Ford Jr. Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five Democrats hoping to turn the page for 2028 could be haunted by ghosts of candidates past. Kamala Harris hinting at another presidential run.
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You say in your book, I'm not done. That is correct.
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I am not done. There are many ways to serve. I have not decided yet what I will do in the future.
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When you look at the bookies odds.
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They put you as an outsider, even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean, is that underestimating you?
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I think there are all kinds of polls that will tell you a variety of things. I've never listened to polls. Gavin Newsom also chiming in. The California governor says he's interested in running for the top job, but he's going to wait until after the midterms to decide. And on a podcast, Newsom cursing like a sale.
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It was also about paying the bills, man. It was just like hustling and. And so I was out there kind of raising myself, turning on the tv, started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with the, you know, know the Wonder Bread and organizing a response to what's happening in this country and organizing people to feel empowered, to give them a voice, to give us choice and to be able to push back against the son. These guys are around.
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I know they're not around.
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And so we have to get our together.
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Newsom and Kamala better be ready for Eric Swalwell's SW Swalwell. What's his name?
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Who cares?
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2028 litmus test. He says every Democratic candidate needs to pledge to wreck Trump's ballroom on day one, which would be preposterous. Jesse, let me go to you first. Gavin vs Kamala, 2028. Are you feeling it?
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I love it. I like how she's like, I'm not done. She's not done losing. She is trying to be seductive and, like, tantalize this.
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Like, I might run.
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I might run. No one cares. No one is on the edge of their seats waiting to find out if Kamala's gonna run again. And Gavin's like, cowabunga. He's like, I'm in. I've always been in. And you know what? J.D. vance is not poor. I'm poor. I'm the Beverly Hillbilly. It's gonna be funny to hear Gavin Newsom say that he had no white privilege to Kamala's face. In the debate. And that debate's gonna be a problem for her because here's her issue. She can't attack Newsom's record in California because she was in California the whole time. She was senator, she was attorney General, she was in the White House when California was collapsing. So anything she says about Gavin's record in California, it's on her, too. Now, his problem is the dei landmine. Gender, race, class. He's going to be stepping in it and it's just going to be blowing up in his face. So, Swalwell, stupid. Do you imagine Eisenhower saying on day one, I will tear down the Truman Balcony? I can see this being a question like an MSNBC debate, right? What will you do to the ball? Will you wreck the ballroom on day one? If I'm Kamal, I say no, we're tearing down the wall. We're keeping the ballroom because Democrats can party. And Rachel, you're invited. We're going to have Beyonce, just like she told everybody. Beyonce was coming to the DNC just to get everybody to show up.
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I do remember that thing about Gavin Newsom, Greg, is that in a way, he is a lot like Kamala, that he can be anybody, depending on which podcast he goes on.
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Well, you know what? It's another thing, a problem I have with our producers. They left out the best part of the whole podcast. The part where he talks about being a small time boxer from working class Philadelphia. And he's arbitrarily chosen to fight this heavyweight champ, Apollo Creed. That's how he met his wife, Adrienne. But he loses. And then he gets a rematch. And it sets him up for a fight with this very, very intimidating challenger, Clubber Lang, who does he go back for help? Apollo Creed. It's an amazing story. Again, why shouldn't he say all that? He assumes that nobody checks, nobody goes on Google and finds out you can be a rich latchkey kid. Your dad worked for Getty Oil. You lived in Marin County. Didn't he start a liquor store, a wine store, and a winery at age 25? These are things that like, basically, I really didn't do. I had somebody else Google it because I have to keep my fingers fresh. But anyway, he assumes he can create this humble upbringing because nobody knows how to use. Nobody knows how to use the Internet. Kamala thinks she can hop right back in because nobody knows how to use the Internet. And see her embarrassing word, ambrosia salad. Swalwell assumes no one knows he banged a Chinese spy and that he farts. Not on command. He Reminds me of the guy when you take, like, a tour guide thing on vacation. He's the guy who wants to be in charge. And it's like, just shut up. Leave us alone.
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Asking all the questions.
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He's asking all the questions. It seems like they're. All the Democrats are banking on ignorance and laziness for their. For their success. If people don't check, they're good. So it's time for an analogy. I haven't done one in a while. The Democratic Party reminds me of the tobacco industry up until the 1960s. The doctors could be paid to say whatever they want. You know what? Smoking can help clear your lungs. Did you know that they would say that? But then the research broke free. The link between tar and cancer was definitive. And suddenly the tobacco industry had to put warnings on their product. This will kill you. I think the Democrat now has a working warning that says warning. This is the party that lied to you about a competent president. They lied about some other things, but that's the big one they have an answer to. If you believe in anything they say, you're gonna look really stupid.
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I'm gonna save Harold for last and go to Katie next. One of the things for Kamala Harris on this book tour is that as soon as she says, no, I'm not running for 2028, no one's going to book her again.
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Right.
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All the speaking gigs dry up. All the opportunities to be on boards, they dry up. So she has to keep up the charade.
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Charade, right.
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I mean, if she decides to run in 2028, it keeps Democrats in this place where they're trying to move forward with new candidates and leave the Biden years and the reputation of lying about what happened in the White House behind. They can't do that. As she continues on this book tour, talking about herself, talking how she's keeping the do. But it just highlights this idea that in politics, shame is lacking in so many areas. I mean, there's no embarrassment here about acknowledging that she lost every single swing state, lost the popular vote to the most evil president that the America has ever had. And yet she is fine with going out and shamelessly saying she's willing to run again. On what record? On a record of never getting a vote in the first primary, of being installed as a nominee and losing. And when it comes to what they're doing for the primary, moving forward with Gavin Newsom, it's going to get very ugly because they're going to actually have to have one this time. They're not going to be able to sue and keep all these other people off the ballots. They're going to have to go through this dirty laundry and they're going to have to because it's an exercise. But that's just the way it's going.
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To be for them.
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It's going to be awful. One thing about the ballroom, Democrats reputation over the past 10, 15 years has been tearing things down. Here you have a president who is wanting to build a ballroom he offered to build for Barack Obama to celebrate America in order to host foreign dignitaries in the capital of the United States of America, the capital of the world. And Democrats, if they were smart, would say, of course we're not going to tear down the ballroom. We're going to host parties celebrating America in the ballroom that the president is giving us. And we should be glad about that. They keep tearing things down instead of running on a platform of building things up. And that's only going to force people who have been pushed away from the party even further. To the Republican column.
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Harold Ford, Jr. Should you become president of the United States, will you host a ball and invite us all?
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First off, you all have been very kind to me the last several days. Thank you. I'd say a couple things about this and everyone's made the point about Kamala Harris. We have to remember, Democrats should remember, no Democrat running for president in the last two decades or so has lost the poplar vote. She did. She will have to run a very different campaign if she runs again. And she has every right to entertain the idea and talk about it. I think you, as usual, Vanna said it right. DP Said it right. She has to talk about these things in certain ways. Same way that I think President Trump can't try to endorse or anoint anyone to come behind him because it inevitably, invariably decreases your power. Two, I would say to Gavin Newsom, to Kamala Harris, to other Democrats thinking about running, talk about the issues again. Here we are at a time in which Amazon, one of the most important companies in the world, has announced it's going to lay off 30,000 corporate jobs or cut corporate jobs at the company. It's already said it thinks it's going to need 150 to 175,000 fewer humans working in their fulfillment centers because of AI and robotics. Why not figure out ways as you travel the country, ways in which to come up with solutions and answers, people who are being innovative and creative about how we address and how we accommodate and how we deal with what's going to happen the next year to five years. It used to be five years, but we're 12 to 24 months out from some of these dramatic things happening in the workforce. These are the ideas and the answers that I think voters want to hear, whether it be crime or health care, cost of living. We have a mayor's race here in New York, which I think we'll get to a little bit later, where affordability is what they're talking about. But the answer is a lot of Democrats don't like the answers that Ms. Simidami is giving. Come up with those. The idea of a litmus test about a ballroom is one of the more asinine things that I've heard, not just because of what Katie and others have said about building up or tearing down. That won't be an issue on an everyday voter's mind. Who has to pay more for health care. That won't be on anyone's mind. Who's concerned about geopolitics, foreign policy, for that matter, the everyday inflation that they're facing in their lives. The issues are right before us. But if you keep swinging at every fastball outside of the, outside of the range, outside the pitching range, we're going to continue to be in the minority. And that, that is disappointing.
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But can I ask you again, like, if you become president, will you and Emily invite us to the ball?
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Thank you again for the kind words the last few days I had.
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I'm going to take that as a yes. Okay. Coming up, Donald Trump and cutting deals during his trip in Asia.
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Well, well, whiskey.
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Looks like we meet again.
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The deals are lining up for the dancing dawn as he's talking peace and trade today, orange Godzilla is in Japan. He met with the emperor and tonight he'll hang out with the new prime minister. A heavy metal drummer yesterday 47 broke it down when he landed in Malaysia and signed yet another peace deal.
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This is one of eight wars that my administration has ended in just eight months. We're Averaging one a month. There is only one left, although I heard that Pakistan and Afghanistan have started up. But I'll get that solved very quickly. It's like, I shouldn't say it's a hobby because it's so much more serious than a hobby, but it's something that I'm good at and it's something I love to do.
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What's next? Well, Trump says the deal is in the works with China and he might make a pit stop in North Korea.
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I'd love to meet with him if he'd like to meet. I got along great with Kim Jong Un. I liked him, he liked me. If he wants to to meet, I'll be in South Korea.
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Would you extend your trip in Asia in order to meet with him?
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Well, I hadn't thought of it, but.
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I think the answer would be, yeah.
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I would do that. Sure. It's our last stop when, when. So it's pretty easy to do.
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Katie, do you remember the good old days when Trump. We were told by the media and Democrats that Trump was a laughing stock of the globe, But I seem to remember it was only them saying it. It wasn't really the globe.
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It wasn't the globe. They also said he was going to start World War Three. He really wanted to do all the things we've seen complete the opposite. I love the new Japanese prime minister, as you mentioned, she's a heavy metal drum player. She also rides a motorcycle. And as the first female of that country in that position, she is a conservative, which is pretty great in terms of the president's trips. You know, he's been talking all about these peace deals he's been able to get on the table, which is obviously very important. But when you look at the details of what he's able to pull in for the United States, billions of dollars in agricultural products, billions of dollars in American energy, including liquefied natural gas. So he's not only putting the America first agenda on the global stage, both by ending wars, promoting economics, but he's also allowing for these local economies to thrive on American the American economy and commerce. And in that part of the world when China is constantly bullying people to come into their communist corner, he's proving that he can go in and offer the American economy and the things that we have to offer them and as a partnership, not only for the people who are working there, but also to maintain this peace that they were not having previously.
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Could you roll that tape again of there at the table producers? We just rolled it while Katie was talking this Is really interesting. Dana. This is where they were unveiling the new Benihana menu.
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My mouth just watered.
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Yes.
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I love that place.
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I know. It's amazing. For a birthday, they cook right in front of you. Do. Do you remember in 2016 when Obama said to Trump, your biggest concern was North Korea, and then he took it off the table because he knew that it was a psychological threat? All we had to do was say, dude, we're not gonna blow you up. They walked away. So this just kind of reminds you of something that's pretty major that people forgot.
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Also, I think it's a fun way to troll Kim Jong Un, which is like, I'm willing to come meet with you, but you don't want to because actually, you're not really even a part of our group. So you just sit there and with your little cabal and stew. I think President Trump is big in Japan.
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Yes.
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All right.
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I am too big in Japan tonight. Are you? I actually probably am, too. You know what's interesting about the new prime minister? So when I worked on Capitol Hill way back when, in the 1990s, she worked for Pat Schroeder, who was a Democrat from Colorado. What I think is interesting about her is how politics, circumstances, understanding, learning, being a part of the system has made her conservative. And I think she will be an incredible leader there. I'm hoping that. That they have a really good relationship, because one of the things that happened today is that the Democrats are all saying, how dare he go to Asia when the government is shut down? But it's like Chuck Schumer, you're the reason the government is shut down. All you have to do is pass the same bill that you voted for six months ago, and then the government would open. I'm assuming that the Democrats want to get these trade deals done, that it would be good for America to have a mineral pact with China. That would make sense to try to deal with some of these things so that we're not at each other's throats. But we'll see what Chuck has to say.
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Yeah.
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I was really shocked, Harold, in the Green Room when you said, I can't believe the Japanese are risking it all on a female prime minister. Are they crazy? Have you seen them drive? You said that. You said that.
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Racist.
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Come back to that. Look, I think the president. I give him a lot of credit on things he deserves credit for in foreign policy. First, he has NATO now spending 5% of their budget budgets on defense, and he did it in a little bit of a weird way, but he got them to do it. Two, he's gotten the Middle east and our partners, and particularly in the Arab region there, to use our technology and AI products and not China's. He's also encouraged and enticed him to invest heavily in the United States, which is a good thing, as he does with all of these countries here. It's amazing as he's gotten the Middle east to take our technology products. We still seem to be addicted to a Chinese product called TikTok, but we can come back to that. But the president has not done an extraordinary job on yet. It's something I know he's trying his hardest to do. China, we've not done the reset like we want because all of these trade deals are about getting China to reset their relationship with us. And as Dana and I think Katie, you might have mentioned, rare earth minerals, why we are not thinking about ways to extract, say, develop new relationships. We can extract those rare earth minerals from other parts of the world, including Mexico, which has almost 2 million tons of it. We ought to find ways in which to engage them there. Then finally, Ukraine and Russia, which I give, I wish the president nothing but the very best there. Finally. I like what President Trump is doing. Another part of his foreign policy, this hemispheric approach and attention given to South America. I've argued for this for a long time. We talk about immigration and we talk about not wanting people from certain parts of this hemisphere in our part of the, in our, in our country, if we would invest more heavily and be smarter about helping governance in a lot of these places. I think Democrats have been a little shortsighted about this. What he's doing in Argentina, this is all about helping to make our region more peaceful, more secure, and for that matter, more economically secure. But, Mr. President, don't do it at the exclusion of the rest of the world. We need to maintain our relationships there. I wish you the best in. No more dancing, more trade deals.
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I love the dancing.
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I was going to go to. Yeah, Jesse, I saved the best for last. Do you think he danced to remind everybody that the previous guy couldn't walk?
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That's right. Obama was bowing. Biden was confused. Trump's like the guy that walks onto the carpet at the Academy Awards and he's a lock for Best picture. You can smell it. All right? And so he comes out and first term, second term, you choose China or America, and the world's chosen. The Europeans are with us because of the AI deal. The Arabs are with us. And we went all up and down the Pacific river, we got trade and mineral deals all there. And we cut a huge mineral deal with the Australians just now, Harold.
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Eight and a half billion.
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Okay? So we told the Chinese, Halloween night, if you guys stop, don't stop hoarding the rare earths, we're hitting you with 100% tariff. And it looks like they're backing down and they're going to save face. And we just dropped the tariff rate to 40%. They buy the soybeans, we get something done on fentanyl, we take TikTok back. Okay? And so now we're sitting pretty, except in Latin America. And what do you do there? You bring in the carrier strike group while he's there on Thursday, which she now remember in Mar a Lago, the Baghdadi strike. After they were eating the chocolate cake, he pulls the guy over and says, watch this. Took out al Baghdadi. I wouldn't be surprised on Thursday when they meet, we see some action in Latin America.
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Interesting. I've seen a lot of action in Latin America. Can we just show the dancing again? I want to. Daniel, doesn't this remind you of something? Doesn't it look like he's doing peloton with the weights? Yes, with the weights.
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Arms and lightweights.
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Arms and lights.
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Weight. Look at him at their 10 minutes.
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Yeah, exactly.
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What I love about this is that he knows that these people were so excited to be there for him and having that moment. They will love him forever.
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There you go. All right, up next, AOC swears she's not crazy as Zoran pushes handouts for the lazy.
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Well, they're all socialists now. Democrats getting on board the Zora Mom, Donnie, train the smiling socialists making a final push before next week's election. And he says the government will save us all.
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No New Yorker should ever be priced out of anything they need to survive. And we believed then, we believed today. We will believe tomorrow that it is government's job to deliver that dignity. Dignity, my friends, is another way of saying freedom.
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Zoram's cheer squad was right next to him. Bernie Sanders hyping up free everything. And AOC saying, trust me, guys, we're not crazy.
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We are not the crazy ones. New York City. We are not the outlandish ones. New York City, they want us to think we are crazy. We are sane.
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New York must have a mayor who represents the working families of this city, not the billionaire class.
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And other Democrats are starting to kiss the socialist ring. Hakeem Jeffries hopping on the bandwagon last minute. And Kathy Hochul was met with tax the rich chants at Mamdani's rally. Democratic whisperer Bill Maher says this election will define where the party goes.
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This is not just New York that's on the ballot. I think the whole Democratic Party in.
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The country is on the ballot.
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And the whole country will be looking.
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At this race to see which way are the Democrats going to go.
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No, Andrew Cuomo may not be that exciting and that inspirational, but, you know, for a party that said we want.
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To get back to normal, he's kind of normal.
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All right, Dana, what is your response to Donny rally?
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Where do I begin? Okay, so a couple things. Is one of you notice that mom Donnie, either he feels very comfortable in that crowd or he feels like he's got a lock on the election because his tone was back to what his usual is. For a while now, I've been feeling like this guy is so empty. Can't really go further than one step into a question or an answer to a question because he doesn't actually know the answer. That crowd that they had, is there any other group of trio of Democrats that could pull together a crowd like this? And I have a feeling that these three will take it on the road and their first stops will be South Carolina, New Hampshire and Nevada. Another thing is that AOC was playing all the Kamala hits, right? We had fascists, extremists, Jim Crow. They've got a well oiled machine. And if you think about who's competing right now for the elections next week, Mamdani has Bernie and AOC in this crowd. And Mikey Sherrill and Abigail Spamberger couldn't pull a crowd like that. They are getting Obama to come out for them. They had to figure out that because they are not exciting. The base. And the base is where it's at right now. One other thing, in this event, Mamdani goes after Cuomo for living in an $8,000 a month apartment. And now, okay, Cuomo's an adult. He has made money. He chooses to spend his money on the shelter of his choice. While mom Donnie and his wife won two. He was born wealthy, she's even wealthier. And they choose to live in a rent stabilized apartment. This morning I Talked about how this race in New York matters to the country, because I promise this is coming to a city near you. I talked about the Minneapolis mayor's race and then the Seattle mayor's race. I learned about this woman that's running out there as a progressive mom, Donnie type of person. Her name's Katie Wood. Grew up upper middle class here in New York. Takes the Greyhound bus all around the country. Where do I want to live? Okay, this is where I want to live. She chooses to live with her husband in a 600 square foot rental with their baby. That's her choice. And she goes after the diverse immigrant who pulled himself up by his bootstraps and worked his butt off and chose to buy a home at $1.4 million in a nice neighborhood in Seattle. And that guy is sitting there going, how can I be behind in this race? Wasn't I the one that you guys were championing?
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No.
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The new champions of the Democratic Party are the progressive left.
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So, Jesse, you know, it's always the Democrat elite who usher in the communist socialist ideology that they think is going to help everybody, but really it's about controlling the population. And they have a whole stable of these candidates ready to go. The Democratic Socialists of America are very organized. They have a lot of funding, and they're ready for this test case to be over. So they then go out and put these candidates in Democratic primaries all over the country to finally take over the party and then, of course, to take over the larger aspect of politics.
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Yeah, so communism's here because liberalism failed. The liberals poured millions of people into New York City. And what did that do? Make everything expensive. It drives up rent, it drives up food, it drives up insurance. No wonder everything's so expensive. They imported the Third World here. So then they loan shark these kids into degrees of, like, women's studies, so they can't even afford a small, expensive apartment to begin with. And so communists come in and they say, the government is going to fix the problem that the government created. And then he says, government handouts are freedom and dignity. Now, you've heard that from some of the worst tyrants in world history. But the people who went to college Never took Econ 101, never took history, so they don't even know. They're so oblivious to this. This guy is going to come in and do this. And I say, part of me says, you guys kind of deserve it.
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So, Greg, isn't he kind of like a Che Guevara Islamist?
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That gives him too much credit. This guy graduated college with a degree in Africana studies. Africana, like the tanks? I have no idea. All I know is he's now he could very well be the mayor. And it's based on the politics of envy. That was a, A loud chant you heard there of tax the rich. The strategy is that's how you're going to pay for it. That's how you're going to get even. We're taking their money and there's nothing. They were all going to vote and they're all going to pay. It is the, it is a spectacle that. I mean, if you're, if you're a business businessman, a go getter, a family. If you're here, you're going to think about leaving. If you're thinking about moving here, you should watch the tax a rich thing and say, I want to be rich. Do I really want to go there? Maybe I should go to New Jersey. I mean, you know, it smells a little different, but they're not, they're not, they're not going to hang me in a park. What is your defense when you say I'm not crazy? It's because the stuff you say are crazy. Zoran's talking about making bus fares free. Have you ever seen what his argument is for that? He says it's because the box where you put the money, it makes the homeless people who come in feel very bad that they have to pay. So just remove the conflict that leads to violence against the bus driver. Just get rid of the bus fare, the toll box, and then all the stuff. That is the reasoning of a child. Well, how do you pay for the. How do you pay the, the, the, the income of whatever called the check? How do you pay the bus driver? How do you do. Where does the money go? How do you do this? It doesn't make any sense, but they're saying, let's remove the cost because it makes the crook unhappy. Okay, well then why stop at the bus? Why not do the Apple store? You know, those ear pods are really expensive. Why doesn't he say to the people out there, we're going to. All those earpods are going to be free. There's nothing Apple can do about it.
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Well, I would vote for that.
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Yeah, so would they, because they wouldn't think, wait, is that possible?
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And then nobody will have anything. Harold, do you want to talk about the future of the Democrat Party?
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So I would just remind everybody, as concerned as I am about this, this, this mayoral election here, and I will say I was, I was. To Dana's point, I was shocked here at the end of this race. Here we are a few days into early voting. It appears that Mr. Mondame has a pretty good lead. I would remind everybody, though, around this time when the primary was being held, Mr. Cuomo had about an 8 to 10 point lead 12 days out and ended up losing the race. So this 10 point lead is certainly something that's surmountable. But he seems to be in a good position. I listened to him, not only in that, that rally was a little different. I listened to some interviews of his and some speeches, some other presentations he's given. Mr. Madame, he sounds decisively mad and divisive, not uplifting, not unifying. I didn't hear any words if you're about to become mayor or governor, an executive in a city or state, nothing about safety, affordability, caring, pro growth. All of us are going to do this together. This pitting of people against people is just unnecessary. It's not how you, not only not how you win a race, but not how you start a term to be the mayor of the most important city, the biggest city, the most vital city in all of the world, certainly United States, and I would argue all of the world. I hope he's able to figure, figure this out now. I will remind everybody we have two mayors in this country. Just a year ago, people talked about these cities as being irretrievably, perhaps too far to the left. And I'm a Democrat, not a socialist. Philadelphia elected a woman named Cherelle Parker who decided to go after criminals, decided to ensure that we prosecuted those. And there's a guy out there in San Francisco named Daniel Lurie who's decided he's going to work with President Trump on issues that really matter and impact the city. That's the direction our party's going in the future.
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Well, Mom, Donnie doesn't talk about safety because he thinks crime and prison are social constructs. So. All right, coming up, using the term illegal aliens is now racist.
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Watch your mouth.
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I'm sorry.
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Democrat Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson shaming a reporter for using the term illegal alien.
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You don't have illegal aliens. I don't know if that's from some sort of sci fi message that you would have had. Well, listen, the legal term for my people were slaves. You want me to use that term, too? So, look, let's just get the language right. We're talking about undocumented individuals that are human beings. The last thing that I'm going to do is accept the type of racist, nasty language to describe human beings. Aw.
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So sad. Katie.
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Oh, wow. I don't think that people in Chicago whose neighborhoods have been run by gangs who are fueled by Mexican and Venezuelan drug cartels, really care about whether we're using the term illegal alien or not. He did mention the legal definition of this. Alien refers to people who are not citizens of the United States. You can be a legal alien. You can be an illegal alien. So if you have a green card, you are still called an alien. So this is ridiculous. It just comes down to he wants to protect the people in these communities who are victimizing those who need the most help. When you go around Chicago or you look at the people who are being interviewed, not in the fancy parts like the governor of Illinois, where he doesn't want to put himself in danger, but when you talk to real people who are victims of this and all of this illegal alien crime over the last 20 years in Chicago, the most violent place in the United States of America, they will tell you that they want these people out. And that's just on the crime side of it. You also hear from them on the economic side about housing inflation, about wages going down and being deflated as a result of illegal immigration into Chicago and other states and cities around the country. So he can go back to this argument the Democrats have been making for a long time that words need to be careful and that we really don't want to talk about the real issue. But there are a lot of people in Chicago being left behind while he wants to shame reporters about using proper terminology and being accurate.
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Yeah, Harold, isn't this the kind of woke BS that got your party into so much trouble?
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The World Series is on tonight. And one thing you don't swing at every doggone pitch they throw. I think that it would be great if Mayor Johnson and even Governor Pritzker, whom I know, get to Washington, get in the White House, sit with the president, do what? I mentioned his name in the last segment. What this mayor in San Francisco was able to do to get President Trump not to send the National Guard out by collaborating with his business community and talking with the president, it's clear we have a crime issue. Katie's right. There's a crime issue in a lot of American cities, and Chicago probably is right up there at the top. Whether the crime is committed by a citizen or an illegal, I would think if I were the mayor or the governor, I'd want to figure out ways to deploy the. To deploy the FBI, the ATF, and the National Guard, if need be, to try to cut down on Crime to try to eliminate those in our communities that are committing these crimes. Swinging at every fastball about the language. Look, I get mayor has every right to do that, but I think there's a better way to go about addressing this problem.
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They police language, not crime. Dana.
A
Well, I was going to make the same point that Katie does, which is like the actual legal term is alien. I remember when Peter first got here, he was an alien on parole. And it does sound like he's committed a crime, but that's just like. That was just the legal terminology.
E
You made love to an alien on parole.
A
Yeah.
E
That's kind of sexy.
A
I love how that's where you're. Jesse, before I blush, it's a technical term. Could we just. I'm just gonna make one political point. If you look at the group there gathered with Brandon Johnson. If you can pull that up. So one of the squad members, Jayapal, she's there, right? Guess what invitation she didn't get?
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What?
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She wasn't with Bernie and AOC and Mom. Donnie. She got the. She. She got the short straw and had.
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To go to Chicago to help out in the cold. Greg.
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They were ugly. Shaming her because that's what they do. You know what? It's exhausting dealing with stupid people. But in Chicago, keeping the stupid in power has its rewards. True, you never get any single major problem solved, but you will never uncover a single example of corruption. Like, they could do whatever they want as long as that clown's in charge. But you, you know, murders and rapes continue. They. They confronted him with. It's not just the language, like, you know, illegal alien. They brought up a woman being raped and murdered by illegal. And he just, like, dismissed it. He didn't care. He didn't think it was relevant. I believe that this attack on ICE is designed to keep the country from realizing that this is entirely possible, that the deportation plan is achievable and it's necessary and it can be done. So you hinder it to make it appear that it is not worth the. Ever or worth the effort. So they say it's just too costly, but they're incurring the cost. I do this all the time. When my wife asked me to do the dishes, I suddenly kind of develop a weird twitch, and it's possible that the dishes could fall. And she says, you know what? I'll do the dishes.
A
Yeah, that would be easier if I do it.
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Yes, exactly.
C
Do that again so I can know how to do that.
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Just a slight twitch.
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You're not clumsy.
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Okay, Y ask me if my wife makes love to me while I'm twitching, you creep.
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Is your wife native born? Yes, my wife is native. Coming up, the newest way to quit doom scrolling.
C
I hear it all the time. Welcome back. Gen Z is grabbing so called analog bags filled with retro items like paper crosswords and Walkmans and it's all to stop doom scrolling. Katie, you have a strong opinion about this. Is this something that you support?
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I just think it's funny she's telling you about it on social media, but I do love this idea that you have your. I mean, I have one of these. You have a book bag with stuff to do other than be on your phone. I think it's great. Gen Z needs more of it.
C
I play Monopoly with my kids when it's raining out to get them to understand board games.
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Yeah, that game is so long. The only way to win is you just buy everything and then you try to trade and you bankrupt them with the hotels. I don't want to give away my strategy, but that's my strategy. So you got to treat people in that generation like children. Like, my mom came over this weekend with my dad to play with the kids. They brought over a broomstick, two pumpkins and a book about witches. And for an hour the kids were totally engaged and then they watched TV for four hours.
C
Fine. I use Monopoly to teach him math also and a lot of reading because.
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It'S important to ep.
C
Your thoughts?
A
Gen Z wants more of this. It's one of the reasons that shows like Grey's Anatomy are very popular with Gen Z because they love looking at what it was like before they had these horrible things in their hands.
C
Mr. Exclamation point. You seem to have a strong opinion.
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Once again, I read this wrong. Analog. I thought it was anal OD og. And so I had some tips and I can't use any of them.
A
You were the O.G. yeah, yeah.
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So I'll just have to pass. Sorry, guys.
B
Nice.
E
Time for One More Thing.
C
One More Thing is up next. Hi, folks. I like the tip.
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It's time now for one More thing. Jesse.
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All right, Mandami. The socialist surge. This is big on Fox Nation. Lawrence Jones explores why these Marxist ideas, what they're going to do to the Big Apple and for the entire country. This guy could take over the financial capital of the world. That's New York City for those of you out there who don't know. Tonight. Jesse Waters primetime. We have Ron DeSantis, Kayleigh McEnady and Nick Sordor. Tonight at 8 o'.
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Clock.
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All right, Greg. All right.
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Tonight we got a great show. 10pm Kat, Tim, Michelle DeFoya, Guy Benson, and Joe DeVito. Let's do this.
C
Yeah.
D
Time to play guess the animal sounds. I'm gonna play a sound. You guys have to guess it. Let's play the sound, shall we? Oh, my goodness. Katie.
C
One animal.
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Yeah, it's one animal. Katie.
B
It's a sea lion.
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I agree with Katie. It's a sea lion.
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It's a seagull.
A
Walrus.
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Walrus. Ooh, a Brit Hume. All right, roll it.
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Okay, close enough.
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Sea lion. That is the sea lion. Oh, we got it. Always guess sea lion.
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That's what the Mystic Aquarium in Connecticut.
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Sink and make that noise.
A
Hey, happy sports Equinox to all who celebrate. It's like Christmas for sports fans like Bill Hammer. Because today, all major sports leagues, including the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL, scheduled to have games tonight. But you should watch Jesse Waters instead. Podcasts with John Ashbrook of the Ruthless podcast today.
B
Very good.
C
Tiny new boards in the Cleveland Clinic nicu. Here they celebrate Halloween. They dress them up. These kids are going through the toughest times. Their parents are. Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe.
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Wherever you get your podcasts.
Date: October 27, 2025
Podcast: The Five
Host: Dana Perino, with Katie Pavlich, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld
In this lively and fast-paced episode, the hosts of "The Five" dissect the major political stories of the day. The main themes include early Democratic maneuvering for the 2028 presidential race, Trump’s high-profile diplomacy in Asia, the leftward shift of the Democratic Party with a focus on New York's mayoral election, immigration language politics, and even a lighter look at Gen Z’s quest to escape doomscrolling.
Kamala Harris’ Hints at Another Run
Gavin Newsom as an Emerging Contender
Eric Swalwell’s “Wreck the Ballroom” Litmus Test
Questioning Authenticity and Political Narratives
Peace Deals and Economic Gains
Meeting with World Leaders
Contrast with Previous Presidents
Rise of “Zora Momdani,” Bernie, AOC and the Democratic Socialists
AOC’s Defense of Progressivism
Dana Dissects the Spectacle
Outlook for the Democratic Party
Illegal Alien vs. Undocumented—Political Correctness vs. Policy
Critiques of Woke Language Policing
On Kamala’s Prospects
Greg’s “Tobacco Industry” Analogy
AOC’s Rallying Cry
Jesse on the Shift from Liberalism to Socialism
Greg’s Critique of Progressive Policy Reasoning
On Language Policing in Chicago
Gen Z “Analog” Fad
This episode delivered a fast-flowing blend of biting humor, partisan sparring, and political observation. The Five’s panel broke down the Democratic Party’s internal maneuvering, spotlighted Trump’s diplomacy juxtaposed against Biden’s immigration problem, and skewered the left’s linguistic trends. From the nitty-gritty of policy to the spectacle of personality-driven politics, listeners get a comprehensive—and often irreverent—look at the week’s biggest stories.
For those who missed the episode, this summary covers all major content sections, joke highlights, and pointed critiques, offering insight into the political and cultural conversation shaping the news cycle.