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Brian Kilmeade
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Jessica Tarlov
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Gillian Turner
The five.
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Kellyanne Conway
Hello everyone. I'm gillian turner along with kellyanne conway, jessica tarlov, brian kilmeade and joey jones. It is five o' clock here in new york city. This is the five. Well, we are awaiting. President Trump is expected to speak any moment now with the Secretary of War and Navy. This is the US Is pursuing yet another oil tanker. We will bring that to you live as it begins. But first, Vice President J.D. vance did not hold back at Turning Point USA's annual America Fest in Phoenix this weekend. It was a packed house. A record 31,000 people attended the first Turning Point convention, obviously since Charlie Kirk's murder. The event aims to energize a new demographic of conservative voters ahead of next year's midterms. Young conservative voters. Here's the vice president urging the party to be quote, big tent by expanding the America first movement. Take a listen.
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Joey Jones
We are going to kick their next November.
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Brian Kilmeade
And every year after that.
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Kellyanne Conway
President Trump called in to thank supporters.
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Brian Kilmeade
We're all, every single one of us.
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Joey Jones
On the same team. President Trump did not build the greatest coalition in politics by running his supporters through endless self defeating purity tests. He says make America great again because every American is invited. People of every faith come to our banner because they know that the America first movement will make their lives better.
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Kellyanne Conway
Well, President Trump called in to thank supporters. He could not resist, though, taking a jab, a playful jab at his son.
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Unknown Guest or Announcer
I just want to say that nobody did more for me than Charlie and there's nobody better than Erica. And I just want to thank you all and I hope my son's doing a good job representing me. Otherwise I have to say, you're fired, Don. You're fired.
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Kellyanne Conway
The biggest surprise of the night, though, was superstar rapper Nicki Minaj, the one time Trump critic now turned conservative, apparently sat down with Erica Kirk to have a heart to heart in which she praised the president and she told young Americans who they should really be looking up to.
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Gillian Turner
I have the utmost respect and admiration for our president. And if you're growing up in a world that tells you it's taboo to say something that the masses don't agree with, that, that, that's not okay. Oh, Gabby poo. It only gets worse from here for you, buddy. It's the end of the road for you. My love for young men. Don't be new scum.
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Kellyanne Conway
A lot of people were surprised by Nicki Minaj's appearance there at Turning Point. But you would only be surprised if you weren't paying attention to the news lately, Brian, because she has very publicly in recent weeks thrown her support behind President Trump. She's very into this Nigeria religious persecution issue which is important to her and she has been thanking him publicly for taking it on.
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Brian Kilmeade
But here's what surprised me. Everything you said is correct, but I did not know she was so read into all the issues because she had such well rounded opinions about President Trump and J.D. vance that she thought and was so eloquent in the way she expressed it. There was none of that. I remember when she was American Idol judge, it was kind of, you know, kind of irreverent. And I watched her look like almost like a candidate. So I think it's really going to matter a lot. And also she said, hey, people can evolve, people can be wrong, people can change. So I really felt like not only is she supportive of the Nigeria, the abuse of Christians in Nigeria and trying to end that and admiring that Donald Trump's trying to do just that, but I think that she bought into the whole culture and it makes me Wonder what about 50 Cent? He's also said positive things but backed out of finally just saying, hey, you know what, I'm all in on Trump. Snoop Dogg evidently got along with Trump before he ran. And then he pardoned one of his friends and he said some positive things. I think in terms of this being more than just an appearance at Turning Point usa, I actually think this could be the beginning of people taking a fresh look at the president instead of using the filter of the media to tell people what they think of the president. But I thought the bigger story at Turning Point too was the battles between Bannon and Ben Shapiro and then and other people and then JD Vance trying to say, it's a big tent, we should all get along.
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Kellyanne Conway
Well, and Kellyanne, to that point, you know, the reason why the vice President was trying to unify people is because he's going to need every vote in that room. He's going to need every, you know, MAGA movement vote he can muster if he is indeed going to prevail and running in the next cycle.
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Gillian Turner
Yes, in 2028, but they also need those folks and their manpower in 2026. And I think the most impressive part of the whole weekend are not the individuals at the podium. It's the increase in the number of Americans, of young Americans who are participating in our political system for the first time and not because of their age. You might say, well, if they're 18, of course, it's their first time. This, this increase of 31,000 people showing up right before Christmas to be there. I met Charlie Kirk when There were about 12 people around the table. His donor, Foster Freeze, said, you're not going to believe this guy. And I said, I don't believe him. God rest his soul. But what Charlie did was, was he was able to combine the mission, the message, the messenger, the money, but most important, the manpower. And I think what Turning Point USA represents, Jillian, more than anything, are the ballot chasers, are the get out the vote. Are you looking at a colleague or a classmate in college and they say, what are you doing? Why do you care about all that? Isn't it right wing? Isn't it? And you have the opportunity to be the ambassador for the conservative movement, for freedom and liberty in this country, the way Charlie and Erica have done so for Vice President Vance, he is going there. I thought it was very uplifting, cohesive, collaborative in unifying his message. He can burn it all down, too. He's good at that. And he's good at being the partisan warrior. But I felt he was sort of straddling that. I am the deputy to the Trump Vance administration's policies this great, successful year. And I also, like you, represent the future. He's 41 years old. His wife is 39. And so he was telling everybody that this is your American dream. And I got to tell you, for young people to have supported President Trump going from 36% in 2020 to 47% in 2024 against Kamala, who's supposed to appeal to young people, is nothing short of remarkable. Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk deserve a ton of credit for that. Building on that into the future requires gatherings like this. I don't really care who was zooming who, really, because they're doing it for, I guess Ideological reasons, but commercial profit as well. And clicks and kicks. I care very much that these people feel they have a seat at the table and that they're going to be able to participate, not just in 2028, in the 2026 midterms.
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Kellyanne Conway
It's also, though, undeniable, Jessica, that Charlie's murder has. I don't know if you can say it has caused this, but it has certainly led to some fracturing.
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Gillian Turner
Right.
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Kellyanne Conway
And a lot of that was on full display over the weekend. You had different parts of the base arguing about everything from Israel policy to Ukraine. You have, as Kellyanne mentioned, the most high profile podcasters in the movement, like, openly warring with one another and calling each other names in front of these 31,000 attendees.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah. And fighting over whose subscribers are real and whose bots. And Candace Owens is kind of a conspiracy theory linchpin, I guess, of all this that everyone is then having a fight over. You know, Megyn Kelly, Ben Shapiro, Steve Bannon. You know, it didn't feel particularly unified and collaborative to me, watching as an outsider. Obviously, the politics that were on display at Turning Point are not my politics. I did, though, find it exciting to see so many young people there, high schoolers who had opened up chapters in their schools after Charlie's horrible assassination. And, you know, again, not my politics. But I think the country will be better off for more people being involved in politics. And I think that that's a big success story. J.D. vance's speech, though, was, on substance, pretty incoherent. I mean, the idea of saying everyone is invited, that this is the greatest coalition of supporters, and then also saying, in the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore. And that we're a Christian nation doesn't feel particularly inviting to me. And also Kellyanne spoke about the coalition that Trump put together for 2024. And it was a huge achievement. I mean, I sat here and ate proverbial crow for what feels like days, months, years. We're getting there. But today, Donald Trump's approval with Gen Z voters is at 29%, and he's only at 32% with Latino voters. It has completely swung back to the usual levels that we saw in the 2020 election when Joe Biden got 81 million votes. He has a lot of work to do. And you saw that coming to bear. Also the November 5th elections in, like, New Jersey and Virginia, right back to where we started. So those voters were on loan for one election. He's going to have to do a lot of work to get them back. Over 10% unemployment rate for Gen Zs right now.
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Brian Kilmeade
I thought it was great speech.
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Unknown Guest or Announcer
I thought it was very smooth.
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Brian Kilmeade
I thought it was right to point conversation.
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Jessica Tarlov
Okay, Everyone is invited. We are a Christian nation.
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Unknown Guest or Announcer
Well, I think you could both be.
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Kellyanne Conway
True majority Christian nation.
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Gillian Turner
It's a Judeo Christian.
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Joey Jones
He didn't say Judeo. One thing we're not is a radical Islamic nation. And anybody who's voiced against that right.
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Jessica Tarlov
Now, you've seen a lot of Democrats being like America is a radical.
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Joey Jones
You know, I didn't see a lot of Republicans out saying free Palestine and from the river to the sea. I didn't see any saying continue the intifada. I didn't see any of them saying things like that. I fought those wars against the radical Islamists. The people of this city watched their friends die in the buildings against the radical Islamists. And we immediately had a president who said we were wrong for using the term radical Islamist. Radical Islamists just went on a terror spree over the last couple of months. And I think when he says that, what he's saying is now more than ever, don't you dare be ashamed to call yourself a Christian, to be openly Christian, to espouse both Republican ideas and Christian ideas, because a lot of times those are the same. And that's okay. I don't think he's challenging the separation of church and state. I don't think he's demonizing Jews, Muslims or Hindus or anyone. But I think he's saying specifically we're coming out of a season where being a Christian white heterosexual male was demonized for no other reason than the fact that you existed. And it's time that we put those types of things aside. And I think from that perspective, he made a good point. I do think there's trouble if you're looking at the short term. The energy of America Fest is not going to directly translate into the midterms. I mean, you're talking about the two main themes being start a family and connect with God, which I think are absolutely fantastic. But that's 30,000 foot view. J.D. vance's, even his speech. Well, I'm sorry, we're going to move to something much more important than what I had to say. But the point is Republicans in Congress don't have much opportunity to latch onto any of this and say vote for me.
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Brian Kilmeade
Right. They do have turning point action with that's going to. They hope to turn this into votes. Meanwhile, Fox News alert. Right now, President Trump speaking at Mar A Lago he's starting to play with the grounds with the Secretary of War and Navy. Let's listen in with a big announcement.
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Unknown Guest or Announcer
There's never been anything like these ships. These have been under design consideration for a long time. And it started with me in my first term because I said, why aren't we doing battleships like we used to? And the. These are the best in the world. They'll be the fastest, the biggest and by far 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built. So if you look at the Iowa, the Missouri, Wisconsin, Alabama and others, but they're, they were similar in size, some a little bit bigger than the others. But if you take the biggest one, it's 100 times more powerful. They're longer by a little bit, but the. And they're bigger. They're bigger ships, but they hold much more. They use the word lethality. Battleships are the largest, sturdiest and most heavily armed vessel built specifically for naval combat. While America has built many new warships over the years, they've been, they've tended to be smaller and much smaller and not conducive to where we are and where we're going. And peace through strength. But including, we've been building aircraft carriers. We're going to be upping that also. We're going to be going to a superior aircraft. We have the Ford class. We're going to be upping that to a different class of aircraft carrier. And we haven't built a battleship since 1994. These cutting edge vessels will be some of the most lethal surface warfare ships. They will be actually the most ever built. Other than our submarines, we have submarines which will have in many ways even more lethality. And we have many of them under construction. Each one of these will be the largest battleship in the history of our country. The largest battleship in the history of the world ever built. And again, it's 100 times more powerful than the previous Iowa class. It's called. Those are the big ones that you'd see on a show. Victory at Sea. I don't know if anyone's seen Victory at sea, but it was a classic. They'll help maintain American military supremacy, revive the American shipbuilding industry and inspire fear in America's enemies all over the world. We want respect. We're going to have it. We already have it. We're more respected now than we ever were a year and a half ago. They laughed at us. Now they respect us again at levels that they've never respected us. We envision that these two ships we're talking about 10 but we're going to start with two and we're going to quickly morph into 10. And ultimately we think it's going to be anywhere from 20 to 25 of these. But we're starting with the first two immediately. And we're going to then be very quickly involved with. I think we're going to do another eight. And then we're going to ultimately and pretty quickly have a total of about 20 to 25. We'll make that determination. We envision that these ships will be the first of a whole new class of battleships to be produced in the years to come. From Theodore Roosevelt, the Great White Fleet. You remember that, the Great White Fleet. To the legendary USS Missouri, whose massive guns helped win World War II. America's battleships have always been unmistakable symbols of national power. We stopped making them for whatever reason, I don't know. And I want to congratulate John Thalen, who is your secretary, Secretary of the Navy. He came to me the first day we met. He talked about battleships. And I said, you're absolutely on the right track. He said, why are we doing other things? We have missiles, which are much more expensive, by the way. These battleships have tremendous numbers of missiles, but they also have guns. And in many ways guns can do the trick just as well as missiles at a tiny fraction of the cost. Once completed, these new 30 to 40,000 ton plus vessels will be the flagships of the American naval fleet. And there'll be never, there has never been anything built like them. And I just want to. I want to be very clear that we're building them here. We're working with others, but we're building them here. We have great Navy yards. We'll be negotiating with some of the companies that are running those yards, taking over the yards we used to build a ship a day during World War II. Now we don't do ships very much anymore. We do military ships, we do submarines. By the way, we're 15 to 20 years advanced in our submarines over anybody else. That was one of the things that I did in my first term. We make the best submarines by far in the world, where we're at least 15 years advanced ahead of anybody else in submarine development. Most powerful. That's right. The most powerful weapon anywhere in the world. Undetectable. So the battleships are going to be armed just in terms of guns and missiles at the highest level. They'll also have hypersonic weapons, many hypersonic weapons, state of the art electric rail guns, and even the high powered lasers that you've been starting to read about we have lasers where you aim the laser at a target, it just wipes it out. We're going to have. There'll be the most sophisticated lasers in the world. And the most sophisticated laser in the world will be on the battleships that we're building. They'll also carry the nuclear arms sea launched cruise missiles currently under development which will be instituted pretty quickly, but they're under development and they've proven to be extremely lethal. The US Navy will lead the design of these ships along with me because I'm a very aesthetic person alongside our partners in American industry. And we're going to have Pete Hegseth and Marco and a lot of very talented people involved. But a lot of it's already been done. We've been doing this for months. The construction will create thousands of American jobs. We're going to have the jobs be created. I mean already we have factories being built unrelated to this. Although AI will be a big factor when it comes to these ships. They'll be very AI AI controlled. Today's announcement is yet another step in our mission to make the United States Navy stronger than ever before. Again, when you talk about 100 times the power of these massive ships that we had years ago, it's pretty amazing. And next week I'm going to meet with the defense prime contractors. I'm going to meet with them here, Florida and we're going to be talking about production schedules because they're too slow. We have many countries allies that are wanting to buy. We make the greatest equipment in the world by far. Nobody is even close. But they don't produce them fast enough. So we're going to be meeting with them to talk about the production schedules. We're going to have strong production schedules and the only way they're going to be able to do that is to build new plants. Even with the F35 we have many people want the F35 fighter jet and it takes too long to deliver them to allies or to ourselves takes too long. The only way they're going to be able to deliver them is if they build new plants. They don't want to build new plants because that's expensive. So we're going to be discussing production schedules, we're going to be discussing capex spending. We'll be discussing the pay to executives where they're making 45 and $50 million a year and not being able to build quickly. They're going to make that kind of money. They have to build quickly again. We make the best equipment in the world, but they don't make them fast enough. And we're going to be also discussing dividends. We want the dividends to go into the creation of production facilities. So we'll be talking about all capex dividends and the pay. We're also going to be talking about buybacks. They spent so much money on buybacks. They want to buy back their stock. I don't want them to buy back their stock. I want them to put the money in plant and equipment so they can build these planes fast, rapidly, like immediately. I mean, I have sold more planes than any president by far times, probably 20. Every time I go someplace I sell 100 planes. That includes commercial planes, Boeings, et cetera. But it also includes fighter jets. And I'm always having to say five years, six years, seven years, helicopters, Apache helicopters, many years. India bought them, they want to get them. They don't want to wait a long time. So we don't want to have executives making $50 million a year issuing big dividends to everybody and also doing buybacks. And then they say, well, we don't have the money to build the plant. They got to build plans. Plans to make F35s, plans to make helicopters, plans to make the F47 new jet. And that's it. And that's what I'm going to be talking to them about. They're going to start spending money on building airplanes and ships and the things that we need not in 10 years and 15 years. We need them now and we're strong about it. Last week the Navy announced a brand new class of frigate and they're going to be working with the South Korean company Hanwha, good company, recently agreed to invest $5 billion in Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. We're opening up the Philadelphia shipyard. Once a great yard, now it was, it was a long time ago decommissioned, but now it's reopening. Working with the Navy and working with private companies. The record setting defense bill I signed last week authorized $26 billion to build new ships, including destroyers and various others. We already have a lot of submarines, as you know, under construction. We're building a lot of submarines. I tell you to be exact, we have right now 15 submarines under construction or ready to start. And we have again the greatest submarine in the world. With our technology, like they talk about chips. Well, I would say submarines are a bigger deal than tips. We have. We're at least, at least 15 years ahead of any other competitor. China, Russia, nobody can come close. We're also building right now three large aircraft carriers in addition to the Ones we have and we have actually, interestingly, we have a lot of submarines. How many submarines do we have now altogether, approximately, huh?
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Brian Kilmeade
What?
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Unknown Guest or Announcer
Over 30? We have over 30. But these are the super duper subs and these. And there's nothing like them. So we're going to be doing from 12 to 15 brand new submarines. We have a couple of other things going on. We'll be building other, other elements of Navy. We'll be fixing up headquarters, we'll be fixing up places for our great sailors to live. And we're going to be working very hard with companies, but we're also going to be penalizing companies that aren't doing a good job. For instance, when they built the Ford, Gerald Ford, the cost overruns were ridiculous. That was done in Norfolk, Virginia. We're going to be talking about that with that company. The cost overruns were out of control. In World War II, the United States built upwards of four ships per day. Can you believe it? Four ships a day on average. And it's now, there weren't all big warships, but there were ships, freighters, tankers. And it's a tragedy that we allowed this incredible capability to just go astray. We don't do that much anymore. We do build our warships, but that's about it. But that's a lot. We're going to restore America as a major shipbuilding power. We're going to ensure the USA is the most powerful fleet anywhere in the world. And long into the future with battleships helping lead the way and the submarines that again, nobody competes with us on submarines. So I just want to thank everybody and I'd like to ask Secretary Hegseth to say a few words followed by the Secretary, but if you would, Secretary of the Navy. But Pete is doing a fantastic job, by the way. We have. Drugs are down 96.2% coming into the United States, 92.6 by sea. And soon we'll be starting the same program on land. The land is much easier. But every one of those boats that we knocked out saved 25,000 lives. So we saved 25,000 lives. Every time we knock out one of those boats with the drugs pouring in and you just have to see it. I mean, people say, oh, gee, do you think, do you think it was really drugs? Well, just take a look. Bags all over the place. That's not fishing equipment. There's no fishing rods on those boats. They move fast. When you see a boat with four engines or five engines on, you know, going 40, 50 miles an hour, well, they get hit. We save 25,000 lives every single time we knock out a boat. And it's over. 96% stopped by sea. We're trying to figure out who the other 4% are, frankly. And we're going to have the same success, but even quicker because it's much easier on land. If they want to come by land, they're going to end up having a big problem. They're going to get blown to pieces because we don't want our people poisoned. 300,000 people died probably last year. 300,000. A lot of people say it was 200. Somebody said last night it was only 175,000 people. That's like three stadiums, big football stadiums filled up with people died. But I think the real number is 300,000. We're not going to have that anymore. So we're. We're doing a great job and we enjoy doing it. Our border is secure. Our country is strong. Trillions of dollars is coming into our country from other countries and companies. They're building factories and plants, including auto plants, all over the United States of America. Without tariffs, they wouldn't be doing anything, although they were very happy with the November 5 election. But it's only because they want to avoid paying tariffs that they're all coming in. And again, the biggest number was $3 trillion in history. That was China many years ago. Now it's $18 trillion. And that's just in 10 months, we think we could hit $20 trillion. That's investment in the United States, including plant and equipment. So thank you very much, and I'll ask Pete to say a few words, and then, John, if you have any questions, we'll take them. Thank you.
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Brian Kilmeade
So the President of the United States making an announcement. He's going to build 25 ships, 30,000 tons, going to be equipped with hypersonics, and it's not going to take 10 years. China comes in and the reason for concern, they have between 300 and 405 ships. We cop out between 275 and 296, I believe we're going to have. We have 68 submarines. China's got 73. I don't know how they surpassed us, but we're going to have 12 to 15 more. The question is, Joey, how soon can you get it done? Because, you know, we've had to revitalize our shipyards. That's why we brought in the Japanese deal.
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Joey Jones
So the acquisition process, which Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of wars, talked about, this is very convoluted. It's one of the Pork, one of the main pork spending problems. There's preferential points where you can develop a lesser product at a higher price but still get picked up. There's a lot of problems there that they need to work on at the Pentagon. But he said, I mean, President Trump inferred less than 10 years. He said, we don't want to take 10 years or 15 years. We want it quicker. And we're working on ships that aren't really ships that are underwater, drone boats that do a lot of things carry people, carry bombs and bullets. It can be offensive as well as defensive. And as much as we've talked about drones in the air, it's the drones in the water that are the next big thing. And when he says other Navy assets, I think other. A lot of that's what he's talking about.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, if we can, Kellyanne, let's switch over to the other big perilous hotspot in the world, and that is in Venezuela, where we've taken a third tanker in the last seven days. The second one was taken yesterday. A third one is taken today. U.S. coast Guard doing the damage they're trying to squeeze Venezuela. What are the stakes right now?
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Gillian Turner
The stakes are high, but this is American might at work. Why you talk about all these deaths from drugs, you can say to Vietnam Wars a year, you can say 30 times annually, the number of people who perished here in the World Trade centers on 9, 11. The statistics have gone on. But here's the main point. These drug cartels have killed more Americans than Hamas has killed a foreign terrorist organization. You can name all the terrorist organizations. So the president wants everybody to look at them that way. And also he's got these Democrats boneheadedly now sort of supporting Maduro and the drug cartels, why they're on the side of the narco terrorist by saying, hold on, it's just Trump's taking out marijuana, cocaine. That's not what's really bothering these kids. And this guy is illegitimately elected Maduro. The same Democrats who said Trump is illegitimately elected every time he gets elected, but they can't say this about Maduro. I think Trump's going to continue for a couple of reasons. One is the drugs, that if you cut this off where it is, then we literally save millions of lives. Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, said something very important recently. She said, president doesn't look at this by the the number of people killed. He looks at it as the number of lives saved. This is an important distinction for the commander in chief and the President, the second reason is the oil. Remember when President Trump said to Jeb Bush and others, well, the problem with Iran and Afghanistan is you guys didn't take the oil. He wants the oil and he wants the, he looks at these oil fields as having been stolen by Venezuela, kicked out the US Companies like Chevron, Shell and the rest of them. And he's saying you're taking the profits from the ill begotten oil and you're trafficking human beings and you're kidnapping and you're flooding drugs and you're murdering people. So this has to stop. I just have to ask the Democrats with a straight face, I want to, I'm worried that Colombia may go in there and help Venezuela. I shouldn't be worried that a Democratic congressman is in there defending and helping Venezuela.
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Brian Kilmeade
80% of the oil that Venezuela ships out, Gillian, goes to China.
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Kellyanne Conway
Goes to China. Exactly.
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Brian Kilmeade
So this matters a lot. China loves their discounted oil for renegade countries and loves them coming in ghost tankers.
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Kellyanne Conway
And one of the key questions is how much pressure is the administration, the Trump administration, putting on Chinese leaders to find other avenues, other resources for this stuff. To Kellyanne's point, as I understand that the President feels that in the 70s and 80s when Venezuela sort of like nationalized their entire oil industry, Hugo Chavez, they commandeered, you know, US Oil infrastructure that was there. What I don't understand is the President keeps saying last week and this week that America wants it back, but we're also not pursuing regime change. There is no way to quote unquote, get that back with Maduro in power. The other thing I would like to ask the President is why we don't just take Maduro out and then we don't have to fight this whole war and then we don't have to worry.
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Brian Kilmeade
About, you mean just kill him, capture.
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Kellyanne Conway
Him, bring him back or have him taken elsewhere. I was saying in the commercial break that Belarus government has made an offer to give him safe haven if he wants to flee. He certainly has plenty of enemies inside his own country. I wonder how much pressure is being borne on him right now internally and.
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Gillian Turner
How much longer he has been to Belarus.
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Kellyanne Conway
I have not been to Belarus.
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Joey Jones
So we're not old enough, Gillian, to remember The Truman Doctrine, NSC 68, which was this idea that we go into pretty much every country in South America and whether it's a liberal, progressive or you know, socialist, Marxist, go in and make sure every government in South America is not welcoming in the Soviets during the Cold War. I mean it Worked out great in places like Brazil or Chile. It didn't work out so great in Haiti, Cuba, a bunch of other places. And so this is kind of a re upping of that. But it's done overtly, not covertly, number one. And number two, really what this isn't about drugs. And I appreciate the President, I appreciate the work on drugs. Drugs. Fentanyl comes from China to Mexico and across land into our country. What it's about is showing China Venezuela supplies them with about 7% of their oil and gas, which is enough to make a dent. It's about letting the world and China know you're not going to come into our backyard and do what you did in Africa or tried to do in the Middle east because guess who's in Afghanistan? It's China. China's in Afghanistan. And so you're not going to do what you did in those places. Here we own the Western Hemisphere, we own the Americas. Do I care if life gets better for people in Venezuela? I would like for it to, but it's not my main motivation. I don't think it's President Trump's main motivation. If you can bring Maduro to the table to get Citgo legally back in the hands of Americans, which is what the courts are trying to do to get access back for ExxonMobil for oil and gas, well, I mean, if it's do that or die, if it's do that or exile, then maybe they do. And I think that's part of the plan.
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Kellyanne Conway
Secretary Rubio gave this like two hour long press briefing on Friday and he said that option is off the table.
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Joey Jones
My point is, if you just take him out now, you've got chaos again. And we've seen in South America that can go either way.
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Brian Kilmeade
Where do you stand on this?
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Joey Jones
Just.
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Jessica Tarlov
Well, I think there just needs to be more clarity as to what's actually going on here. You're getting conflicting messages. Some days it's a war, some days we're going for a regime change. Some days we're just, you know, taking out drug smugglers who are bringing cocaine and usually going in the wrong direction. Like that double tap strike that boat was headed to Suriname, was not coming to the US So we need clarity on that. And you have Rand Paul out there asking for that. And Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham is excited about this, which indicates to me that regime change and war is coming. Cuz that's what really gets Lindsey Graham all hot and bothered.
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Brian Kilmeade
He's for national security.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, but I also want to point out in Defense of Democrats. We are not saying we love drug smugglers or we're on the side of Maduro here. You have problems? No. Well, then go and listen to Roger Wicker or Mike Turner or Rand Paul, who are Republicans themselves. Mike Turner's gone so far as say, are we just killing random people here? I mean, Admiral Bradley testified behind closed doors. We'll see if we get the rest of the video being publicly released. We need to hear from Admiral Halsey as to what happened, what kind of orders are being sent out. Because if there are people who are clinging to pieces of wood in the middle of the sea and don't have drugs on them and don't have phones that they're calling their friends to come and get them, we are violating US Code and international code as to how we're treating these people. They need to tell us the truth. And Trump always says, this is so popular. 53% oppose US attacks on alleged drug smuggling boats and 63% oppose military action in Venezuela. He's doing this is not just for fun and games. This is really serious.
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Brian Kilmeade
Nobody thinks it's not serious. And I think that for the first time in 25 years, we're addressing a huge problem in our hemisphere. And I think that's extremely popular with.
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Jessica Tarlov
The sign you need congressional approval if you want to.
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Brian Kilmeade
We're not going to a war. Just like we didn't get congressional approval to remove Noriega by.
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Kellyanne Conway
Well, it's a question then of how long you can skirt technically being involved in an armed conflict if you're taking.
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Joey Jones
Every president, every president has flirted with this. Every president has used what? I forgot the name of the legislation, the War Powers act, whatever it is. Every president, every predecessor to President Trump has used it in their own way. They flirted with it. They violated it here and re upped it there. That's not a good place for Congress to go. They need to do their job for sure, but that doesn't get anything done.
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Brian Kilmeade
Hopefully this is done before Christmas and we get the rightfully elected government in there to run their country. They seem to have a plan ready to go with their first hundred days.
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Kellyanne Conway
Good luck.
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Meanwhile, coming up, Democrats are getting a makeover. Can't wait to see what that looks like. Bring in the music. Burning down to its ashes and smoke.
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Joey Jones
Yeah. Democrats are giving themselves a glow up just in time for 2028. Axios reporting that Dem hopefuls are getting makeovers before making their move towards the White House. From Pete Buttigieg's new beard to Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker's waistline, potential candidates are trying anything to look more appealing to voters. Not sure it's going to work, but they need all the help they can get. There's a new poll out that says just 18% of voters give congressional Dems a thumbs up. But Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries says it's no big deal. He's telling his party full steam ahead. Well, clearly that's an outlier poll. Listen, the most significant indicator of public sentiment is are you winning elections or are you losing elections? And on that front, Democrats have been winning elections since January. Jessica. I think they've just been watching too much. Gutfeld is what it is. And Greg, you know, but from Mike Pompeo, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, even J.D. vance, it's amazing what a beard and losing a few pounds will do for a middle aged man.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, totally. Well, it does cover up as things get.
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Joey Jones
I mean, wouldn't you say that those men are very handsome, especially with a beard?
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Jessica Tarlov
I mean, not everyone in that list is. I do like a beard. I think the JD Vance, JD Vance's beard has been good for him too. He wasn't always. He was, you know, fresh faced and then has the facial hair. But you know, it makes sense. You're interviewing for the biggest job in the world. We all think about our outfits and how we present when we show up, you know, for any job interview. And I think it's a good thing that also people are going to get healthier. I don't understand when you only have like 10 pounds to lose the Ozempic thing. And then your face always tells the story. Like you kind of like cave in a certain way versus a natural weight loss way. But if you're getting healthier, good for you.
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Joey Jones
Kellyanne, you know, this poll, I'm not a big fan of polls like this because it's like how do they ask the question? You know, individual members of Congress may have really good numbers where Democrats in Congress don't. But I mean, Republicans aren't great, but they're 35% in the same poll. So that's double the amount of approval that Democrats have.
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Gillian Turner
There's no way to perfume the pig. I'm talking about, of course, the 18% congressional approval rating. That's abysmal. But the Democrats have earned it. And I think this entire discussion and what they're trying to do glow up for 2028, Joey tells you why the problem of the Democratic Party is not what they wear or how they look. It's how they think and what they believe. And that is completely unaligned and out of touch with America. You got so many of them still saying men and women's sports is fine. They said the border was closed. There's no problem there. It wasn't closed. It was porous and wide open. And President Trump shut it down within months. And we have zero border crossings. They're fine with higher taxes and more regulations. They're fine with masks. Long after Covid is done. They've done. I think that the Democratic Party is so out of touch with some of their core constituencies. That's how President Trump won more Catholics and more union households and more Hispanics and African Americans and more young people. The list goes on and on. That was a direct rejection, not just of Kamala Harris, the ultimate out of touch person, but of an entire party that just has no connective tissue with you. Who's going to tell JB Pritzker? I guess me. The before and the after picture look exactly the same. So it wasn't even worth buying the peloton or injecting your belly. And that's just not going to. A beard here and there is not going to cover up the fact that they covered up the lack of acuity, diliability and honestly, cognition in a sitting president for four years. This party's got a lot of problems. They can't begin and finish a sentence without saying Trump, Trump, Trump 12 times in an eight word sentence. And I'm just not buying it that this country is so shallow and so easily cowed that if you're going to look different and believe the same nonsense that's gotten you got Trump to win all seven swing states and the popular vote that somehow you're going to prevail in 2020 with this crew. I also don't think Alyssa Slotkin or AOC should grow facial hair.
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Joey Jones
Brian. I guess it's kind of like the messenger needs to not look sloppy, but really the message is probably what's most important.
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Brian Kilmeade
I would think so. And I'll tell you in terms of the look, the one who's got the look down is Newsom. That's authentically him. Like, he's. Some people are like that. They know how to dress. They can do it casual. But the thing is, if you look at people that are successful. Bill Clinton looked the same way. He was a chubby guy when he was running. Look at George W. Bush. He was the same guy. John McCain ran for the White House. Barack Obama didn't change this, ran as himself. The one thing I think they're missing, the one thing that President Trump has clarified, is you have to be authentic to who you are. He didn't show up at the Iowa Fair in a blue jean shirt and jeans. He showed up in a suit and a helicopter. So all he had to do, he's just himself. Guys, stop with the beer. Just be you. You know, be Pete Buttigieg, the gay mayor. Don't be the. Don't be the backwoodsman, because you're inauthentic to who you are. You're a fat guy, the governor of Illinois. You're a heavyset guy. Heavyset guys can do well. Chris Christie was a very good governor of New Jersey. So I don't get it.
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Joey Jones
Sound like one of those.
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Kellyanne Conway
Didn't the president say he would never wear jeans, or am I making that up?
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Unknown Guest or Announcer
Probably.
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Brian Kilmeade
Imagine if he did. You'd say, how inauthentic.
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Joey Jones
Why are you doing that?
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Kellyanne Conway
I would also just say, though, I mean, as much as I would like to wholeheartedly believe that the message is all that matters, I would also say it is 2025, almost 2026. Everybody on planet Earth is trying to get a glow up, because no matter where you work, what you do, what industry you're in, you can't get away from social media. You can't get away from cameras. Everybody is evaluating everybody based on how they look. I don't like it. You might not like it, but it's. Sadly, it's just the reality, I think. Politics. You know, I live in D.C. we have a reputation as being, like, the uglier version of Hollywood.
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Gillian Turner
People are not proud of it.
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Kellyanne Conway
You know, people. We're proud of it.
- [44:04]
Gillian Turner
We're not trying to.
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Kellyanne Conway
But the point is, is that you gotta, you know, you got to at least meet the baseline level to get elected today. That's the reality. Again, I don't like it. I wish I could change it, but I can't.
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Joey Jones
Well, if nothing else, maybe the glow up is just a signal of who's serious about looking for that top job.
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Joey Jones
All right, coming up. Waymo. Driverless cars are. Well, they go wacky as San Francisco goes dark.
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Brian Kilmeade
You're the reason I keep your ugly little garden. Overlooks ain't everything.
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Jessica Tarlov
Welcome to Walgreens. What can I help you with today?
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Brian Kilmeade
Hi, I need a last minute gift for a Secret Santa. Something thoughtful, impressive.
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Joey Jones
Not a fruitcake.
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Jessica Tarlov
We've got Ferrero chocolates, artisan coffees, even a spa kit. Any vibe you're going for?
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Brian Kilmeade
Whatever says wow. This guy's great at giving gifts.
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Jessica Tarlov
How about this premium skincare gift set?
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Just needs a bow.
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Gillian Turner
Will look like you planned it weekly.
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Brian Kilmeade
Well, happy holidays gifts, holiday decor and more.
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Brian Kilmeade
We're with you all the way, Walgreens.
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Jessica Tarlov
Welcome back. First up, it was a driverless car disaster. Waymo Robo taxis are back on the streets after a power outage in San Francisco knocked out street lights, confusing the cars. The stalled vehicles blocked lanes and brought traffic to a standstill. Critics are saying the incident proved the AI revolution. Maybe a few more years away than we thought. Kellyanne, I think you're the only one at the table who's been in a Waymo.
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Gillian Turner
I have.
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Jessica Tarlov
What? How was it? And does this freak you out?
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Gillian Turner
It was fine. This was not a great look, of course, but Waymo would tell you that they've driven about 96 million miles and 91% less likely to get into a crash, as some of their statistics say. So they are trying to adapt their technology for incidents like this. They said as much the other night. I guess people should be happy that the car just stops if it can't really read and understand the technology. But I do think it's part of the wave of the future. One of the arguments they make is that a driverless car cannot assault you or argue with you or make you feel put upon. So that is one of the arguments that so many moms and dads and grandmoms make about some of the other ride shares founded or unfounded. They know the shock, the conscience examples. But I know Elon Musk took a little dig at them and said nothing happened to his Robo taxis at the same time. So there is that.
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Jessica Tarlov
Where do you come down on the driverless cars? And also, like, how do the power companies not know what causes an outage of that size? You?
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Kellyanne Conway
Anyone?
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Jessica Tarlov
You?
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, I'll take it.
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Kellyanne Conway
You?
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Jessica Tarlov
Brian?
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Brian Kilmeade
So it looks like I like the web if the Waymo doesn't know where it's going. I like that it stopped, but I prefer it pull Over. Yeah, stopping an intersection doesn't make me feel good.
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Joey Jones
Number two.
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Brian Kilmeade
I can't believe they didn't run through this. What if we lost out of power? I didn't know they live off the streetlights. That kind of bothers me a little bit because you do have to think if some of the things that could go wrong is you could have a power outage. And I think that Tesla Elon Musk came right back and said, look at, look at my taxis. My taxis can actually deal with that. So he's certainly in competition. I do think it's. I do think it's a little scary to get in a car without any driver and think it's going to take me a lot to do this. Now I'm really going to think is gonna take some time.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, Gillian. I'd be backseat driving the whole time but to like nobody.
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Kellyanne Conway
Well, also you're way more vulnerable, I think, to hacking.
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Gillian Turner
Right?
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Kellyanne Conway
Like if a foreign adversary or anybody gets into the program and sets off chaos, like is every waymo on the streets of United States gonna like do something crazy?
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Brian Kilmeade
I don't know. So we sit on our phones all day by ourself and then we get in a car by ourself and we go somewhere by ourself. This is pathetic.
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Kellyanne Conway
I mean, one thing that's not going to have with like human drivers is you're not going to have some mass accident of like hundreds of thousands of people all across the country at one time. But that could happen with drivers.
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Joey Jones
This isn't necessarily a hot take, right? Say the quiet part out loud. I mean, if it gets some of the women drivers off the street, it's probably not a sexist would say. A sexist would say not.
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Jessica Tarlov
Joey Jones, I thought you were.
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Brian Kilmeade
That show's coming up at 11. Thank you.
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Unknown Guest or Announcer
I'm kidding.
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Joey Jones
I'm not getting in a self driving car though.
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Jessica Tarlov
One More Thing's up next.
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Brian Kilmeade
Will be the last.
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Gillian Turner
This is Ainsley Earhart.
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Jessica Tarlov
Thank you for joining me for the.
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Gillian Turner
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Kellyanne Conway
Welcome back. It is time for One More Thing. Jessica, you were up first.
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Jessica Tarlov
Okay. So Friday night, just at home, suddenly my phone blowing up. You are a Jeopardy.
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Kellyanne Conway
Clue. Play the tape.
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Joey Jones
From Sanskrit, this synonym for expert is.
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Used of political commentators like George Will and Jessica Tarlov.
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Brian Kilmeade
Eugene, what is pundit? Yes.
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Jessica Tarlov
Insane. I'm sure George Will is like, who is Jessica? Charlotte? I thought maybe they were playing a joke on me. Either way, Jeopardy. Thank you. It's I don't have a bucket list, but that would have been how much.
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Brian Kilmeade
Do we pay for?
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Kellyanne Conway
You're a big deal.
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Gillian Turner
Read the $2,000 clue.
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Jessica Tarlov
1200. No, no, no.
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Brian Kilmeade
All right, quick announcement. Coming up on February 14th, May 30th, I'll be back on stage. History, liberty and laugh streamed on Fox Nation. Just go to briankilme.com and think twice before you go to a roller coaster. Check this out over in Texas, a guy over at the Circuit of America's in Austin, they just thought they'd hop on a roller coaster. They ended up on the brand new circuit breaker coaster. So new it didn't work well. They ended up staring straight into the sky for nearly an hour. The ride malfunctioned about 130ft in the air. Eventually, 911 got called. Responders showed up and said, I don't know how to get them down. More on this later. That's all I got. Next. Joey.
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Joey Jones
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