Podcast Summary: The Five – December 22, 2025

Main Theme Overview

This packed episode of "The Five" centers on the latest in American politics, with a particular focus on Turning Point USA’s America Fest, evolving coalitions within the conservative movement, Donald Trump’s announcement on naval expansion, U.S. actions against Venezuelan oil tankers, Democratic Party image makeovers, and the growing pains of driverless cars. The panel offers energetic debate, pointed critiques, moments of humor, and firsthand reactions to ongoing controversies – all in their inimitable, combative style.

Key Discussion Points

1. Turning Point USA’s America Fest and the Conservative Youth Movement

(01:06–12:23)

• Vice President J.D. Vance’s Big Tent Message

  • Vance delivered a speech at Turning Point USA, urging unity in the conservative ranks:
    • “President Trump did not build the greatest coalition in politics by running his supporters through endless self defeating purity tests. He says make America great again because every American is invited.” (Joey Jones, 02:15)
  • Trump called in, humorously threatening to “fire” his son Don Jr. if he underperformed at the event (02:49).

• Nicki Minaj’s Surprising Conservative Turn

  • Minaj, once a Trump critic, praised the former president and urged youth to admire leaders unafraid to challenge groupthink.
  • "I have the utmost respect and admiration for our president. And if you're growing up in a world that tells you it's taboo to say something that the masses don't agree with, that's not okay." (Gillian Turner, quoting Minaj, 03:22)
  • Panelists note Minaj’s influence, the significance of her advocacy on issues like Nigeria’s religious persecution, and speculate on other celebrities potentially shifting right.

• Panel Reflections on Political Youth Engagement

  • Panelists highlight the event's record attendance (31,000), connecting it to the late Charlie Kirk’s legacy.
  • “The most impressive part...is the increase in the number of Americans, of young Americans, who are participating in our political system for the first time.” (Gillian Turner, 05:59)
  • They stress the importance of gatherings like Turning Point for grassroots mobilization.

• Visible Fractures Inside the Conservative Movement

  • The panel acknowledges infighting between media personalities and policy disagreements.
  • “You had different parts of the base arguing about everything from Israel policy to Ukraine...most high profile podcasters in the movement, openly warring with one another and calling each other names in front of these 31,000 attendees.” (Kellyanne Conway, 08:21)

• Debate Over ‘Big Tent’ Rhetoric and Identity Politics

  • Jessica Tarlov criticizes contradictions within the 'everyone’s invited' message, querying its inclusivity:
    • “...the idea of saying everyone is invited...and then also saying, in the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore. And that we're a Christian nation doesn't feel particularly inviting to me.” (09:03)

• Perspectives on Religious and Racial Identity

  • The hosts discuss America’s Christian heritage, Islamic extremism, and perceived anti-Christian sentiment in recent culture debates:
    • “We're coming out of a season where being a Christian white heterosexual male was demonized for no other reason than the fact you existed. And it's time that we put those types of things aside.” (Joey Jones, 11:10)

2. Trump’s Battleship Announcement and Military Modernization

(12:23–29:29)

• Trump’s Major Naval Construction Plan

  • Trump announces a new class of massive, heavily-armed battleships; promises rapid construction and high-tech weaponry (hypersonic missiles, lasers, AI control).
  • “There's never been anything like these ships...the most powerful weapon anywhere in the world. Undetectable.” (Donald Trump, 12:39–23:57)
  • He blames defense contractors for slow production and promises to overhaul acquisition:
    • “I don't want them to buy back their stock. I want them to put the money in plant and equipment so they can build these planes fast, rapidly, like immediately.” (20:53)
  • Trump touts U.S. dominance in submarine technology, revives the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, and emphasizes job creation.

• Panel Reaction

  • Brian Kilmeade summarizes, emphasizing the arms race with China and the need to revitalize shipyards (28:17).
  • Joey Jones discusses bureaucratic obstacles and the future of underwater drone warfare.

3. U.S.–Venezuela Standoff: Oil, Drugs, and Foreign Influence

(29:29–37:12)

• Escalating U.S. Actions Against Venezuela

  • U.S. forces seize multiple tankers linked to the Maduro regime, aiming to disrupt drug trafficking and counter China’s growing stake in Venezuelan oil.

• Dueling Narratives: Drug War vs. Strategic Oil Interests

  • Gillian Turner asserts, “These drug cartels have killed more Americans than Hamas...the president wants everybody to look at them that way.”
  • Panelists discuss the broader context—China’s energy supply, regime change ambiguity, and comparisons to historic U.S. interventions in Latin America.
  • “This is kind of a re upping of [the Truman Doctrine]. But it's done overtly, not covertly.” (Joey Jones, 33:10)
  • Jessica Tarlov calls for clarity: “You’re getting conflicting messages. Some days it’s a war, some days we’re going for a regime change, some days we’re just, you know, taking out drug smugglers.” (34:56)

• Debate Over Congressional Authorization

  • The panel is divided over whether the president has the authority to escalate without explicit congressional backing.
  • “Nobody thinks it’s not serious. And I think that for the first time in 25 years, we're addressing a huge problem in our hemisphere.” (Brian Kilmeade, 36:24)

4. Democratic Makeovers and Image Politics Ahead of 2028

(37:54–44:20)

• Axios Report on Potential Dem 2028 Candidates’ ‘Glow Ups’

  • White House aspirants like Pete Buttigieg and Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker are reportedly revamping their looks.
  • Joey Jones quips, “It's amazing what a beard and losing a few pounds will do for a middle aged man.”

• Substance vs. Surface in Political Branding

  • The panel skewers Democrats for focusing on image over policy, pointing to an abysmal 18% Congressional approval rating.
  • “That was a direct rejection, not just of Kamala Harris...but of an entire party that just has no connective tissue with you.” (Kellyanne Conway, 41:04)

• Authenticity Debate

  • “...the one thing that President Trump has clarified is you have to be authentic to who you are. He didn’t show up at the Iowa Fair in a blue jean shirt...he showed up in a suit and a helicopter.” (Brian Kilmeade, 42:14)

5. Robo-Taxis and AI: The Woes of Driverless Cars

(45:13–48:22)

• Waymo Driverless Car Debacle in San Francisco

  • Power outages stalled driverless cars in intersections, causing citywide chaos.
  • Gillian Turner, who’s ridden in Waymo: “One of the arguments they make is that a driverless car cannot assault you or argue with you or make you feel put upon...I do think it’s part of the wave of the future.” (45:35)
  • Panelists voice skepticism about AI reliability and vulnerability to hacking. “...stopping in intersection doesn't make me feel good.” (Brian Kilmeade, 46:45)

• Humor and Skepticism

  • Joey Jones jokes about “getting some of the women drivers off the street,” which prompts playful pushback and reminders not to cross the line.

6. Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

Jessica Tarlov on Jeopardy!

• “You are a Jeopardy! clue...I'm sure George Will is like, who is Jessica? Charlotte? I thought maybe they were playing a joke on me.” (49:15)
  • The group celebrates Jessica being referenced as a political commentator on the iconic quiz show.

Authenticity in Politics (Brian Kilmeade, 42:14)

• “Just be you. You know, be Pete Buttigieg, the gay mayor. Don’t be the backwoodsman...You’re a heavyset guy, heavyset guys can do well.”

On Political Participation (Gillian Turner, 05:59)

• “The increase of 31,000 people showing up right before Christmas to be there...that these people feel they have a seat at the table...they’re going to be able to participate, not just in 2028, in the 2026 midterms.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Turning Point USA & Youth Conservative Movement: 01:06–12:23
• Trump Battleship Announcement: 12:23–29:29
• US–Venezuela Tensions/Drugs & Oil: 29:29–37:12
• Democrat ‘Glow Up’ for 2028: 37:54–44:20
• Waymo Driverless Car Glitch: 45:13–48:22
• Panelist Anecdotes/Light Moments: 49:04–50:15

Episode Tone

The conversation is punchy, irreverent, and partisan: Panelists compete to land the most memorable soundbite, but also provide insight, historical context, and a sense of urgency over both policy and image in contemporary US politics. The show mixes serious policy discussion with lighthearted banter and biting sarcasm, perfectly capturing "The Five's" signature style.

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