TMZ: FBI Looking At Ring Cam

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five – “TMZ: FBI Looking At Ring Cam”

Host: FOX News Podcasts
Date: February 12, 2026
Panelists: Jesse Watters, Brian Kilmeade, Kennedy, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld, (with reporting from Trace Gallagher)

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Overview

This episode of The Five dives into several fast-moving and hot-button stories dominating the headlines in February 2026. Anchored by Jesse Watters and Fox’s iconic panel, the hour covers the breaking developments of the Nancy Guthrie disappearance and the FBI’s interest in a critical ring cam video, ICE's operation drawing down after a controversial surge in Minnesota, volatile hearings featuring Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Epstein files, intra-Democrat strife as highlighted by the Atlantic's critique, the complexity of reporting on violent crime and gender identity after a Canadian mass shooting, and, finally, a lighter segment starring Mike Tyson's unusual new role.

The discussion is lively, pointed, and distinctly in the sharp, irreverent Fox News tone.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Fox News Alert: Nancy Guthrie Disappearance & the Ring Cam Video

[01:10–03:41]

• Trace Gallagher reports on the latest in the hunt for Nancy Guthrie. The FBI’s interest is piqued by a TMZ-acquired ring cam video showing a man with a strikingly similar backpack to the one from Guthrie’s doorstep, five miles away, during the relevant timeframe.
• There’s confusion and debate over the precise timeline:
  • Sheriff’s department: Nest Cam disabled at 1:47am at Guthrie's house.
  • TMZ/law enforcement source: The ring cam video timestamp (1:52am, location five miles away) would make the suspect's presence at the Guthrie house impossible—unless the Guthrie house video was, as TMZ suggests, from 2:12am, which makes the timeline feasible for the suspect to travel.
• “If this person is relevant to the case, either the sheriff's department is wrong, Jesse, or TMZ is wrong.” – Trace Gallagher [03:24]

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2. Operation Metro Surge Drawdown in Minnesota (ICE Operation)

[03:41–14:33]

• The panel discusses Tom Homan’s announcement of the end of the controversial ICE “Operation Metro Surge” after rounds of arrests and finding over 3,300 missing unaccompanied children.
  • “After rescuing missing kids and bagging thousands of bad hombres…” – Jesse Watters [03:53]
  • The Democratic response is criticized for not “taking the win,” and the debate gets heated over percentages of “violent criminal” migrant arrests.
  • Dana Perino: Highlights that “showing competence in government” garners respect and support, regardless of who’s in charge. Praises Homan’s methodical, stats-based approach.
  • Greg Gutfeld: Lambasts Katie Couric’s spin minimizing the 14% statistic of arrested violent offenders—“If 14% of your plate of pasta was ground up glass, would you eat it?” [09:07]
  • Kennedy: Frames the ICE operation’s impact on local politics and the reduction in protests, comparing officials’ approaches to Ulysses S. Grant and George McClellan.
  • “We needed to bring the temperature down and look, magically ICE is able to draw down and you're not seeing as many deadly protests in the streets. And I think this is ultimately what the president wanted all along.” – Kennedy [13:28]

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3. Judiciary Hearing Chaos: Pam Bondi, Epstein Files, and Congressional Dysfunction

[15:30–23:33]

• Attorney General Pam Bondi faces an acrimonious, chaotic House hearing as Democrats grill her, with the Epstein files and Donald Trump's connections in focus.
  • Brian Kilmeade questions the seriousness of congressional oversight versus political theater: “Is your job to solicit answers? ...Or are you just looking to raise money?” [16:30]
  • Kennedy criticizes Bondi’s emotional style contrasted with “laconic sick burns” from calm witnesses like Scott Bessant. “She comes off like a shrieking Karen… She needs to tone it down a little bit.” [18:12]
  • Greg Gutfeld notes the performative aspect for politicians auditioning for higher visibility and donations, dismissing the hearings as “ideological target practice.” [22:31]
  • Dana Perino: Observes that many members are absent, with only those needing primary campaign footage showing up: “The ones who are there are the ones who are trying to raise a little bit of money for their bases.” [19:28]

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4. Democratic Party Struggles: Atlantic Article, Newsom Embarrassment, and Internal Tensions

[25:06–32:31]

• Discussion pivots to a critical Atlantic article, “The Democrats Aren’t Built for This, That’s Not Good,” pointing out performative wokeness and a lack of seriousness within the party.
  • Kennedy lampoons DNC quirks and woke culture, including “stolen land acknowledgments” and staff revolting against coming back to the office.
  • Jesse Watters: Mocks the party’s focus on pronouns and identity labels: “If you want to save democracy, put on some pants, take a shower, and drive into work.” [27:15]
  • Dana Perino: Connects Gavin Newsom’s awkwardness at a Planned Parenthood event—upstaged by his wife, Jennifer Newsom.
    • “That is the first time publicly you see that he really didn't have any idea what to do.” – Brian Kilmeade on Newsom [29:41]
  • Greg Gutfeld: Sees “emasculation” and a lack of fun as Democratic Party problems: “It’s an emasculated party... they’ve transitioned themselves.” [32:05]

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5. Reporting on the Transgender Mass Shooter in Canada

[32:59–37:58]

• Brian Kilmeade details a mass shooting in Canada by a trans-identifying adolescent, noting how police and media are careful to use the “right” pronouns but omit discussion of possible connections to mental health and drug interventions.
  • Greg Gutfeld is critical of the media’s selective interest: “I remember the days when the media cared about mass shootings. But now that they're turning out to be trans... they want nothing to do with it except to disguise the identity of their idealized martyr.” [33:55]
  • Kennedy: Discusses the intersection of mental illness and gender dysphoria, emphasizing the vulnerability of young people and the dangers of treating them as “unsteady laboratories.”
  • Jesse Watters: “If you have a police chief who's afraid to offend a dead killer, your whole society is cooked.” [36:41]
  • Dana Perino: Cites a Wall Street Journal op-ed about transition regret, urging for medical follow-up and caution.

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6. Mike Tyson’s Redemption and the “Maha” Movement

[38:26–41:05]

• Greg Gutfeld introduces a softer story: Mike Tyson becomes a celebrity face for the “Maha” movement (healthy eating), supporting Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in a campaign to make healthier food accessible.
  • Panel: Jokes about processed food, Tyson's influence, and redemption:
    • “He is can be redeemed. Can you be redeemed?” – Greg Gutfeld [40:43]
    • “I'm irredeemable.” – Jesse Watters [40:49]
  • Brian Kilmeade: Acknowledges the challenge of affordable healthy food in working-class communities.
  • Kennedy: Praises Tyson’s life evolution: “If you maintain that passion throughout your life, you are capable of anything.” [40:12]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trace Gallagher (on evidence confusion): "If this person is relevant to the case, either the sheriff's department is wrong, Jesse, or TMZ is wrong." — [03:24]
• Greg Gutfeld (on Katie Couric): "If 14% of your plate of pasta is ground up glass, would you eat it?" — [09:07]
• Kennedy (on ICE operations): "We needed to bring the temperature down and look, magically ICE is able to draw down and you're not seeing as many deadly protests in the streets." — [13:28]
• Kennedy (on Pam Bondi): "She comes off like a shrieking Karen... She needs to tone it down a little bit." — [18:12]
• Brian Kilmeade (on congressional hearings): "Is your job to solicit answers? ...Or are you just looking to raise money?" — [16:30]
• Greg Gutfeld (on the Democrats): "It’s an emasculated party... they’ve transitioned themselves." — [32:05]
• Jesse Watters (on woke activism): "If you want to save democracy, put on some pants, take a shower, and drive into work." — [27:15]
• Greg Gutfeld (on trans shooter media coverage): "They want nothing to do with it except to disguise the identity of their idealized martyr." — [33:55]
• Kennedy (on Tyson): "If you maintain that passion throughout your life, you are capable of anything." — [40:12]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Nancy Guthrie Disappearance/Ring Cam: [01:10–03:41]
• ICE Operation Metro Surge/Migrant Crime: [03:41–14:33]
• Pam Bondi & Congressional Hearings: [15:30–23:33]
• Democrats, Gavin Newsom, Internal Division: [25:06–32:31]
• Canadian Trans Shooter Coverage: [32:59–37:58]
• Mike Tyson & Healthy Food Movement: [38:26–41:05]

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Language and Tone

The episode maintains the signature Five blend of sarcasm, sharp partisan critique, topical pop culture references, and banter. The panel isn’t shy about overt criticism of political opponents, with rhetorical flourishes (e.g., food metaphors, historical analogies, jabs at media figures) and irreverent, occasionally provocative humor.

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Summary

The Five’s February 12, 2026 episode is a brisk, wide-ranging survey of the week’s most polarizing and headline-grabbing stories, blending breaking news coverage (Nancy Guthrie case update), partisan debate (ICE raids, Democrat infighting), cultural critique (trans issues in media), and entertainment (Mike Tyson’s “Maha” turn). The conversation is alternately intense, mocking, and self-aware—a microcosm of the 2026 American media and political climate.

Transcript

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[Jesse Waters]

Hello everybody. I'm Jesse Waters along with Brian Kilmeade Kennedy, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Fox News alert. Day 12 in the desperate search for Nancy Guthrie. The Pima County Sheriff's Office begging the public to cough up any kind of video taken within a 2 mile radius of Nancy's house in the month leading up to her disappearance. TMZ has gotten their hands on a ring cam surveillance video showing a man five miles away from Nancy Guthrie's house the night she disappeared. For more on that, let's go to Trace Gallagher in Tucson with the latest trace.

[Trace Gallagher]

And Jesse, the reason the FBI is so interested in the video you just mentioned obtained by TMZ is because the person in that video was about the same timeline, right? He was also carrying a backpack that had reflective stripes on it, just like the backpack that the person had on the doorstep of Nancy Guthrie's home. But here's the problem with that. That video that we are looking at was taken at 1:52 in the morning, right? Now remember, the sheriff's department says at 1:47 here at Nancy Guthrie's house, the nest cam was taken down. It was disabled. So if this 5 miles away video was taken at 1:52, that makes it impossible for this person to have literally come to Nancy's house at 147 and then made it back five miles away at 1:52. But here's the other thing. TMZ is saying that they have a law enforcement source that says the video we're watching of the guy who's trying to open the gate with the backpack, wearing a backpack and holding one. Actually, the timeline is different. They believe that the video on the front porch of Nancy Guthrie's house was taken at 2:12. If that's the case, then the person in the video that we're seeing today, the brand new video, will would have had 18, 19 minutes to be able to get to Nancy Guthrie's house and then put the backpack on or give it to somebody else and that person to change clothes. Then it would be very relevant. So the bottom line here is if this person is relevant to the case, either the sheriff's department is wrong, Jesse, or TMZ is wrong. And that's kind of how the timeline lays out trace.

[Jesse Waters]

Thank you so much. And now out to the big news in Minnesota. Tom Holman announcing the end of Operation Metro surge in the Twin Cities. After rescuing missing kids and bagging thousands.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Of bad hombres, in addition to taking.

[Jesse Waters]

Public safety threats off the street, ICE here in this state have located 3,364 missing unaccompanied alien children, children that the last administration lost and weren't even looking for. With that and success that has been made arresting public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began, as well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have obtained from state officials and local law enforcement, I have proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude. A significant drawdown has already been underway this week and will continue to the next week. And America's sweetheart apparently has a sweetheart for some of those bad hombres. Katie Couric is saying no biggie to violent criminal migrants.

[Dana Perino]

Isn't all this talk about ridding the.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Country of violent criminals a massive overstatement?

[Dana Perino]

If less than 14% again of the 400,000 immigrants being arrested are had charges or convictions for violent criminal offenses, what about the 14%?

[Kennedy]

Such a low percentage of 400,000 people.

[Brian Kilmeade]

If you're, if your daughter as well.

[Trace Gallagher]

If you're, if your daughter gets raped.

[Brian Kilmeade]

By the guy that gets back out.

[Trace Gallagher]

And he's one of the 14%, I don't think you're an equivalent about whether.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It'S 14 or 64.

[Jesse Waters]

Let's talk to Brian Kilmeade, who suggested Tom Hoban go out to Minnesota. It's been right two weeks later. How do you think it all shook out?

[Brian Kilmeade]

First, start communication. Start talking to the mayor. Start talking to the governor. Start Talking to all the sheriffs. And also I don't think he agreed with a lot of what Tom Bavino was doing. I don't think he agreed a lot of the Christine own policies. And I think he was marginalized. And I think he was able to step up and say, I'll do this almost like John Harbaugh with the Giants. I'll take the job as long as I can report to the owner. He said, I'll take this job as long as I can report to you. And he said, trust me on this. I have Democratic support because I've done it in the past. He convinced him. I know the mayor and governor don't want to say it because they're afraid of losing some support. Those guys cooperated with him. They gave him access to the prisons. The sheriffs on the outskirts in the suburbs were already doing it. And then all of a sudden, Tom Holman comes in and starts producing results, not disparaging them personally. Gives you 700 last week. Chuck Schumer doesn't say, OK, this is a win. He says that's a drop in the bucket. In what planet? They only have 600 cops. 6,600 cops. 700 is not a drop in the bucket. I just can't believe, and I know I'm taking a page from your book, Dana, but why Democrats don't take the win here. Bevino has been marginalized. Tom Homan stepped up. They've de escalated the entire situation. They're not doing any of the randomized roving patrols anymore and they have agreed to body cameras right off the bat. And they're talking about some other things when it comes to training, this is a perfect way to go. Okay, I got it. We can do this. Let's go on our codells. Let's call it a day. We've had 12 appropriation bills done. We could actually did things the right way for a change, but instead, still holding out on Saturday, no more funding of the dhs. And Tom Homan's done a brilliant job. I think he's going to do it everywhere.

[Jesse Waters]

Now. Your name was invoked, Dana. Would you like to say anything?

[Dana Perino]

Well, I do believe that Tom Homan, he has a gift at the podium that some people might say would. They wouldn't necessarily have thought that initially. Right. But he has a steady, calm competence. When you can show competence in government, people will turn and look to you and say, okay, wait, tell me more, show me more. And that's what he did. So we took this live today. It wasn't until the 18th or 19th minute of his speech that he announces the news. So he really buried the lead. But before he did that, he listed all of those statistics. We showed one of them or we played one of them. The 3354 missing children that they were able to find in just that area. This is amazing that he has 87 sheriffs who are willing to cooperate with him. And then he says, so after all of this success and finalizing the mission, I have said to President Trump, I think we can draw down. And President Trump agrees. So we will leave a few people here to make sure everything's cool. We'll be seeing you later. To me, that is a great win for the Trump administration. But I also believe that the Democrats could say, look what we made them do.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But Dana, this is why he did it on the 17th minute or 12th minute. Cuz they would not have taken the stats on the missing kids and the 4,000.

[Dana Perino]

He's a better.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And every network took it to the end.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, yeah, he did a good job.

[Jesse Waters]

Greg. Katie Couric. That was quite an interview with Rand Paul.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, she threw a picture up. Remember when she was called like America's sweetheart? A picture of her. She's gone from America's sweetheart to America's duck. Look at those, like bizarro lips, by the way. 300. They found 3,300 kids. I think we know where they belong. The Somali daycare.

[Jesse Waters]

Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We couldn't find him for the. You know, when, when Homan talks about mistakes being made, I don't think he's talking about ice, because finding missing kids is not a mistake. It would have been interesting if he said, you know, we're gonna stop looking for missing kids. And the Democrats go, oh, that's great. They probably would because they hate good things that happen under Republicans. He was talking about the lack of cooperation and he got the cooperation because that's the only thing, that's the only thing that's changed really is that they're cooperating. And so people go, oh, you know, they've admitted they did wrong. No, he didn't. He did like 80% of the job. Katie is a moron. The question is, how long has she been a moron? I mean, we were told that she was a subjective news source, but she just does such a disservice to women because they already have this stereotype that they can't do math. And this is an idiot. I mean, 14% is small. I mean, if 14% of your plate of pasta is ground up, glass would you eat it. I mean, she understands. Answer one tumor is a billion cells. You got 33 trillion cells. That's 0.0033%. But that's not a big deal. She's an idiot. She's an idiot. 14% of what? 400,000 people, that's 50,000 violent felons. That's rapists, murderers, pedophiles. Meanwhile, the non violent ones that she's not talking about, those are guys that deal with child porn. They're fraudsters, they're drunk drivers, they're traffickers. Human and drug traffickers. But those are called non violent. She's okay with them. They also won't mention like, oh, these are. They're nonviolent, but they're nonviolent here. They were very violent in Venezuela or where else? Colombia or Mexico. I also love that Tim Waltz. Did you see that clip of him? Wants taxpayers to pay his state for damages. Did you see that? Who caused the damages in that state? So he's like Jeffrey Dahmer suing a victim's family because he got food poisoning. This guy is. They're all idiots. But okay. Katie Couric tells you that we've been lied to for 30 years about what our media is. That was objective. We're now seeing the so called mask come off and it's not pretty. And it's like, now we know these people were lying to us about everything.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Dan Rather was the first.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. By the way, I love your tie. Right?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Really?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I do.

[Jesse Waters]

Strong stance.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Very strong stance.

[Dana Perino]

Right?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Do you work?

[Brian Kilmeade]

I'm pro America.

[Jesse Waters]

Kennedy.

[Kennedy]

Finally someone is, why should I say, it's great to be here.

[Dana Perino]

Back to table.

[Kennedy]

Welcome, Brian. So Katie Couric used to be the perky morning show hostess. She hosted the Today show with Bryant Gumbel. And they were the first two people to discover what emailing was.

[Dana Perino]

I remember that's stupid.

[Kennedy]

And Katie's like, I don't know, let's put something up my butt. She did to save lives. And she did. And I will forever thank her for that. She has certainly lost her way. It seems like she's not auditioning to get a job once again at CBS because she has been culturally ineffective going on her on her own rogue YouTube channel over the years. She has always needed a network to prop her up because unfortunately she's got some bad ideas. The way for her to play this, especially with someone like Rand Paul, who oftentimes goes rogue from his own caucus, would be to say, you know, we needed to get the 14% that's fantastic. But how can we in other cities just focus on that 14% instead of minimizing it and saying, you know, 14% really isn't that bad. And because it is the bad, it is the worst of the worst. And I think the point of this Tom Homan experiment was to show that people like Tim Walls and Jacob Fry and governors and mayors across the country who are plagued by crime and homelessness and all sorts of other things they're unwilling to tackle is they have wanted this. They have wanted these people out of their cities and their states. But unfortunately, when Kristi Noem was in their grandstanding, it allowed Jacob Fry to grandstand. And when you had Tom Hammond go in and, you know, talk to these people behind closed doors and say, you know, we're going to do this differently, we're going to go into the county jails, he said he had everyone from every county lining up to help get rid of those 14% that all of those places are desperate to rid themselves of. So, you know, what we needed was to bring the temperature down and look magically ice is able to draw down and you're not seeing as many deadly protests in the streets. And I think this is ultimately what the President wanted all along. There was a civil war within his administration. And I believe that we're seeing Tom Homan is the Ulysses S. Granteer.

[Jesse Waters]

I like that.

[Kennedy]

And Kristi Noem is the George McClellan, a footnote in history.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But one thing, I don't think that the activists slowing down has anything to do with this because they don't care. They actually thirsted for the spectacle.

[Brian Kilmeade]

If you take the crimes that Greg pointed out, it comes up to 70%. So if you take the so called nonviolent crimes that are serious crimes, it's 70%. Seven out of every 10 who have been taken out or now being holding cells have committed serious crimes.

[Jesse Waters]

Ladies, did you understand that math? Could you do it again?

[Dana Perino]

Show your work.

[Jesse Waters]

We'll do it. We'll do it again. We'll show the work. Thank you. All right, coming up next, the Democrats going absolutely ballistic on Pam Bondi.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And I told you about that Attorney General before you started.

[Jesse Waters]

You don't tell me.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, I did tell you because we.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Saw what you did in the Senate.

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[Dana Perino]

And not much policy, but a whole lot of chaos on Capitol Hill yesterday. Attorney General Pam Bondi sparring with some very, very angry Democrats during a House Judiciary hearing. It went like this.

[Kennedy]

Excuse me. I'm going to answer the question.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Answer my question.

[Kennedy]

No, I'm going to answer the question.

[Dana Perino]

The way I want to answer the question.

[Jesse Waters]

I'm talking. I'm talking. Privilege. Quiet.

[Brian Kilmeade]

You can let her filibuster all day long, but not on our watch, not on our time. No way. And I told you about that Attorney General before you started.

[Jesse Waters]

You don't tell me.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, I did tell you, because we.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Saw what you did in the Senate. Shame on you.

[Jesse Waters]

If you had any decency, you would.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Resign right after this hearing concludes.

[Dana Perino]

The dow has shattered 50,000 for the first time.

[Kennedy]

This is crazy.

[Dana Perino]

They said it couldn't be done in four years. One of the worst attorney generals in history.

[Kennedy]

Crockett.

[Dana Perino]

All right, things might have been loud, but that didn't stop Congressman Jerry Nadler from getting a little shut eye. Yep. Video catching one of his aides nudging him to wake up. He had things to do. Wake up, Brian.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I'm up. I just. Everything is devolving. The day before, you had Todd Lyons and Rodney Scott. They just were being screamed at the entire time. I just like to ask everybody in the room, what is your job? I mean, is your job to solicit answers? Is your job to make progress? Are you looking to learn something? Are you just looking to raise money? Because, okay, we're playing the clips because it's so out of control and embarrassing. And the thing is, for the most part, you know, you had Todd Lyons and Rodney Scott kind of sit back and take a lot of incoming that was totally unworthy because a lot of that wasn't their policies at all. They were being yelled at for ice, and they were mischaracterizing what ICE was doing for another time. But here in Pam Bondi, they're talking about the Epstein files. Let's be honest, the Epstein files have totally blown up. In the Democrats face, two insincere lawmakers, Ro Khanna and Tom Massie, who sat on it for four years, had no interest when Joe Biden was president or Donald Trump was president the first time, now all of a sudden have to do it for the survivors. No one's talking about the survivors now. They're trying to see if they can get Donald Trump. And the only thing that came out of the last million pages was people trying to plot and plan against Donald Trump. With Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump talking to the sheriff, thanking them for going after Epstein, putting him away, charging him, and said horrible things about Maxwell. So that's why people are up in arms. Because every day someone like Peter Attia or the founder of LinkedIn, where somebody else is caught over there saying something that they said didn't happen, it turns up. It's in the Epstein file. So the whole thing is blown up in the Democrats face. And they want Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi's not going anywhere. You can yell at her all you want.

[Dana Perino]

I think the yelling to me Kennedy, that's always find it so unpersuasive for everybody.

[Kennedy]

Yes. So Scott Besant went before Congress and was very calm, was very measured. And he has become the king of laconic sick burns. Like he can absolutely destroy you and it won't raise his heart rate or his blood pressure. And that is a lesson that Pam Bondi needs to internalize because it's different. She comes off like a shrieking Karen. You know, it's like, I want this country to do well. I want to be convinced that the president, I don't care what administration it is, that we're on the right track. And the people who are in charge of every aspect of the federal government, they have their position locked up and they're doing the very best they can with an incredibly talented team. When she's this emotional, it looks like she's lost a little bit of the edge. And she seems very, very unpersuasive. It feels like the job is consuming her. She needs to tone it down a little bit. And, you know, she apparently had a burn book of insults that she was doling out to everyone. And when she said to Jamie Raskin, who was a total hack, when she said, like, you're not even a lawyer, he should have said, you're not even a real blonde, that would have been funny. He doesn't have the wherewithal. He shouldn't be in convict.

[Brian Kilmeade]

That's why he's never in Gutfeld.

[Dana Perino]

Scott Bessant might have been able to deliver that line. The other thing is, Jesse, that we noticed once again at these hearings that if when you take the shot of the members of Congress that could have been there, a lot of the seats are vacant. The ones who are there are the ones who are trying to raise a little bit of money for their basis. So Eric Swalwell was there, Jasmine Crockett was there, and they're in primaries.

[Jesse Waters]

Sure. The situation is like this. Dana Perino, Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar A lago then called the cops on him, then arrested him, arrested Maxwell. And they're like, release the files. He's like, you sure you want me to? You really sure you want me to? Fine. Have at it. And they're still yelling at his people, right? It's politics. She's gotta go up there. She takes her lumps, they scream. I used to think we should treat men and women differently. I don't believe we should anymore. You cannot yell at a woman the same way you yell at a man. It makes you look worse. Everybody agrees with.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I have to change my whole strategy with Jessica.

[Jesse Waters]

No, please keep doing that. We love that. You get. You get an exception. But if you read the Epstein files, and the Journal's done a great job of this. Epstein got his money from two Jewish billionaires, Lex Wessner and Leon Black, and a little bit of money from the Jewish banking dynasty, the Rothschilds, in Europe. And it looks like he's mostly just a fixer. A guy who advises. He helps people with their problems. Sometimes those problems are, you need a.

[Kennedy]

Girl or some penicillin or some.

[Jesse Waters]

If you need it, he's got it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He's a sex rabbi.

[Jesse Waters]

He should perform at the halftime show next year.

[Dana Perino]

Well, that won't be happening. Happened at a jail.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I am from a noose.

[Dana Perino]

Greg, what do you think?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, okay. Since when did these drama queens ever care actually about the Epstein case? When Biden was in charge? This is. There's no moral imperative behind this righteousness. It's only political, Obviously, theater. I want to paraphrase the great Walter Kern, who said thinking that politicians control the narrative is like believing actors wrote the movie. So this is just some kind of script. This is scripted. There's a director. Everybody's playing their thing. I don't really get that beat up about this for a couple of reasons. One, I see these hearings as the same old crud. Maybe after the Kavanaugh hearing, that kind of, like, fixed it for me, it was just a turning point. So I don't really have any investment in this. I imagine that for people who don't follow politics, this is like watching a hockey fight. It's just like, something that's like, what's going on over there? Also, and I hate to say it, a lot of these people are auditioning for my seat. Oh, and your seat, too. Not yours. Dana, you're much too nice. But it's like, you know, a lot of these people, like, they know that they're being filmed, and they're, like, filmed. What year is this. Back in the day, we had big cameras and kinescopes. Yeah, kinescopes. But it's like, you know. So I think a lot of that kind of gets to. How did I do? How did I like, everybody's like, no, immediately.

[Dana Perino]

Because they get small dollar donations and that's what this is.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, but I do, I do like. I also understand that these witnesses are finally responding with the respect these imposters deserve. It's like I keep thinking, like, what would I do if I was there? I could not take any of those bozos seriously. And they're. All they're doing is ideological target practice. So I'm sitting there and I'm supposed to go, yes, sir. No, sir. No. I'm just gonna go, you're not real. I'm looking at Raskin. You're not real. You're a bot. You're no better than a bot. You're programmed by somebody else. I don't have to respect you. That's kind of what Besson's doing. He's like sitting there going, besson's face tells you that I'm so much better than you people are. It's not funny.

[Kennedy]

He's better, he's richer.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, but if you don't interrupt all the chance.

[Kennedy]

I mean, he can, he can make the claim about the Dow at 50k.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, right.

[Dana Perino]

The other thing though, especially at the ICE hearing from the other day, it's that all of those guys like Todd lyons, they work 18 hours a day minimum, and they're looking at these guys who are just basically trying to yell at them so that they can get out of town and go raise more money.

[Brian Kilmeade]

But they leave no time to answer. So if you don't interrupt and say something, it looks like you agree.

[Dana Perino]

To be honest, I feel like it's a broken system. Like the primary debates with 10 people. I think it's a broken system and it needs to be changed.

[Kennedy]

Okay, we need a cane.

[Dana Perino]

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[Jesse Waters]

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[Dana Perino]

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[Kennedy]

There we go. A brand new 10,000 word expose from the Atlantic. Basically saying Dems would be cleaning up at the midterms if they weren't busy acting like a bunch of woke dumpster fired dipsticks. It is titled the Democrats Aren't Built for this, that's Not Good and lays out such gems like DNC Chair Ken Martin Won't Give up on those Stolen land Acknowledgments that Billie Eilish seems to cherish Maine Senate candidate and Nazi tattoo fan Graham Platner admits he doesn't know what the IA and LGBTQIA stands for. However, he does quote, love the gays. And Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego agreeing with the interviewer that Democrats are the word that rhymes with wussies that can also be used to refer to cats. And speaking of betas, California Governor Gavin Newsom getting upstaged by his lovely wife during a Planned Parenthood event as she scolded journalists for asking her husband about his high speed boondoggle instead of Trump's quote, war on women.

[Dana Perino]

Watch this. We just find it incredulous that we have Planned Parenthood here and women are 51% of the population. And the majority of the questions, all of these questions have really been about other issues. You wonder why we have such a horrific war on women in this country and that these guys are getting away with it because you don't seem to care. So I just offer that with love. Yeah, you know, it's like Jesse, homeless.

[Kennedy]

People are taking over the state. Okay. There's a $70 billion deficit. People are moving out in droves can we just talk about aborting more babies? Don't you care?

[Jesse Waters]

If you look closely, you can see Gavin turned into a woman during that press conference, his face transing pink as everyone else's blazer. What kind of man stands around with Planned Parenthood women? And then has your wife grabbed the mic and yell at women in the audience for not talking about women enough? I mean, oh, my God, I'm not gonna say it. You know what the letter starts with? We were told by our producers we can't say it. This is an amazing article by the Atlantic. I read the whole thing. This time, I didn't just. I didn't just read the packet. I read the article. So the DNC boss tells the DNC staff, you stop. We can't work from home anymore. It's three years after pandemic. You got to come to work, and there was a revolt. Now, if you want to save democracy, put on some pants, take a shower, and drive into work. Now, I also learned they're still doing land acknowledgments. Everybody still has pronouns in their bio. And did anybody know lgbtqia? Plus, they're adding letters. We don't even know what these are. I, A. Does anybody know what I, A, A plus stand for?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Kill me. You know, A, Asexual.

[Jesse Waters]

Asexual. What's E?

[Brian Kilmeade]

What's I? Oh, is it really intersex?

[Jesse Waters]

Isn't it intersex?

[Trace Gallagher]

Okay.

[Brian Kilmeade]

What is that intersex?

[Trace Gallagher]

I don't know.

[Jesse Waters]

It's probably Gavin.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's when you have sex in an intersection.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you very much.

[Kennedy]

Well, thank you for. Hope you get stuck in traffic, that biology lesson.

[Jesse Waters]

I promise I'll never read the whole article again.

[Kennedy]

So, Dana, you know, you're watching this. You see Jennifer Newsom grabbed the microphone. This is a pivotal moment in her husband's career. You know, he has emerged as the frontrunner for the presidency, and now you've got all sorts of magazines like Marie Claire reaching out to her, wanting to do these glossy profiles, talking about, like, you know, what would life be like if you were the first lady? It feels like she's kind of already measuring the drapes.

[Dana Perino]

Choose your fighter. Right? Which. Which first lady would you rather have on the COVID of magazine? She probably will get a lot of that kind of coverage. But you know who wasn't invited to today's event in California? Halle Berry. Why? Because she says that they don't care about a very important women's issue, that she's been trying to put forward, and he won't return her calls, and she's out there fighting for it. The other thing that they didn't seem to talk about at this abortion event was that President Trump has just made good on his promise to make IVF drugs more affordable for people. Why? So they can have babies. That is something worth talking about and grabbing the Microsoft and screaming from the rooftops.

[Kennedy]

What did you think of Gavin? You were, you were commenting, Brian, during the commercial break, right? You. You hadn't seen him.

[Brian Kilmeade]

This is a very politically incorrect commercial break group. I'm just saying I've never seen anything quite like it. One day they'll be televised. It's great. But I will, I will say this. I've never seen. He never looks uncomfortable. Gavin Newsom, you know, once in a while, the crossing legs. I got it. But he always is very comfortable when he's being interviewed and talking to people and doing his podcast. That is the first time publicly you see that he really didn't have any idea what to do. And I think the reason is, is because he's controlling his image. He was getting questions reportedly, about his career, about what's going on with you. But running for president and his wife sitting there cutting him off and now making him look bad. So that doesn't help. But here's what you think. No matter everything you said about land grabs and Indians who really belong with this land and all this stuff, the Democrats have flipped 25 state legislative seats. The Republicans have flipped zero. As much as they're winery with whining, with pronouns, Republicans have to find a way to communicate that they are the better way. And they got seven or eight months to do it because that group, as misguided as they seem and act is, seems to be on a roll, which astounds me to say, but the numbers don't lie.

[Kennedy]

Is the Democrat Party at odds with itself?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, it is. Kennedy, can we show that? Just the tape again of that press conference. I want to know if the signer up in the right is signing over stolen land because she's clearly not there. I need to know that. Here's the deal. It's an emasculated party. They've transitioned themselves. And I go back, it's mainly from the trans issue because it's really hard to take the men. If you're in this party and you stood by as predators invaded the safe spaces of women, whether it was locker rooms or sports schools, gyms, even prisons, if you stood by, you lose your man card. Because, and I said This, I don't know. If I said it last week, I might have said it to you. Who knows? Who cares, really? That's all water under the bridge. All right, what do Democrat men say in private? It's like, they probably talk like a guy who's been trapped in an endless corporate HR seminar. Like, get me out of this thing. I get it. White man, bad guys in dresses. Cool. Just, can I go back to work? That's kind of like what that guy was saying. It's like, can we just stop this nonsense? I think it was a glimpse of that conversation there. But I mean, if you go, when you go from land, what do you call it?

[Kennedy]

Acknowledgement.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Acknowledgement. Abortion. Trans. Constant rage. This is not a fun group. I think that's the message here, is that we're a fun bunch. You know, we're much better looking, we work hard and we have friends on the other side. Their side keeps getting smaller because they're telling you not to be friends with us. And we're like, come on over here. The water's warm. And not for reasons that you think, well, no.

[Kennedy]

Gavin Newsom looked like the water was very cold.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He wanted to abort that thing.

[Kennedy]

There was some privilege. All right, coming up next, next, the media and Canadian officials making sure they get the pronouns right for a transgender mass shooter. Stay with us.

[Brian Kilmeade]

All right, a horrific school massacre in Canada. Police say the suspected shooter, a biological male who identifies as a transgender woman. It's 18 year old Jesse Van Rood Salar. He was found dead for what appeared to be a self inflicted injury. Shot himself after killing eight, including his mother and brother, and wounding 24 others. Here's the Canadian police making sure they got the killer's pronouns right. We identified the suspect as they chose to be identified in public and in social media. I can say that Jesse was.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He was born as a biological male.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Who approximately the information that I have, approximately six years ago, began to transition to female and identified as female both socially and publicly. Great. The New York Times, other publications, they don't mention that that could be an issue. The transgender, the drugs, the move, the problems he had, they don't bring it up much. Like the Nashville shooting involving a transgender in Minneapolis and Charlie Kirk.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I remember the days when the media cared about mass shootings. But now that they're turning out to be trans, which is marginalized, oppressed group, they want nothing to do with it except to disguise the identity of their idealized martyr. The media has a hard time doing this story because they played a role in it, they encouraged parents to take their mentally ill kids and play, dress up and shoot them up with hormones. When a kid is really screwed up, you don't screw them up more. I mean, think about this like the mother who was murdered was a big trans champion. So if you have a troubled child and you see an option out, like, you get comfort. If you encourage this delusion, you see where this goes, and it's no place good. I see parents basking in the glow of their trans kids as they get strange new respect, and that makes them culpable as well. I think the media and the Dems made the public tantrums and the humiliation rituals of autogynephiliacs laudable behavior. And this is where you end up.

[Brian Kilmeade]

So we know, too, six years ago, he started to transition. Four years ago, he was in that school.

[Jesse Waters]

Kennedy.

[Kennedy]

Yes. And dropped out.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah.

[Kennedy]

Because, you know, who knows if they didn't have the proper mental health services. But, you know, the thing that we're finding here, which I hope they do a deeper dive here, because they're doing such a great disservice to people who are deeply mentally ill. And then you have a group of adults who come in and they say, well, maybe you're just in the wrong body. You know, maybe you weren't born the right way. And that resonates with someone who doesn't feel right, who feels like a misfit whose thoughts are off. No matter what they do, they can't bring any measure of joy or success in their life. So that starts to make sense to a group of people who are incredibly suggestible. But unfortunately, there is an intersection of mental illness and body dysmorphia and hormones that are fighting against themselves. And, you know, we don't know exactly what hormones do to the human body in the best of circumstances. And you certainly, you know, it doesn't seem right to treat troubled teenagers as a very unsteady laboratory. And I think there are other ways of supporting our children and getting them the help they need, because we don't need to see another mass shooting that, you know, evolved from someone who could have been treated in a completely different way while preserving human life.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Jesse, the other thing is, if you go ahead with the law, in many states, you can't even take the drugs until you're over 18. So this guy's been taking them for six years, and he's 18 when he commits the crime.

[Jesse Waters]

I mean, Kennedy was very eloquent there. I'd just add that we're so worried about creating These killer robots, we're creating killer kids. These are vulnerable kids. We're telling them the wrong things. We're shooting them up, we're operating on them, and we're not shocked when they lash out violently. If you have a police chief who's afraid to offend a dead killer, your whole society is cooked. This guy is supposed to be a real man, an authority, someone with power and common sense. And his mind has been obliterated. And so that's why people think Canada is weak. It is a weak culture, it's a weak civilization, and it's not respected because of things like this.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, Dana. And they're woke up.

[Jesse Waters]

Yes.

[Dana Perino]

I would just point out that in the Wall Street Journal today, there is an op ed by a person who had a similar thing, very unsure about themselves, went online when they were 12, said, oh, I guess I must be trans. So then they put a whole bunch of drugs in him and now he's trying to figure out a way to get back. Or she's trying to figure out a way to get her life back and she's fighting in the courts for it. I don't know if that's happening in Canada as much, but there's plenty of kids around here. So if you are involved in these things and you are a psychiatrist, then maybe you should do some follow up to prevent these things.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And if you're a journalist writing this story up, how could you not include the possibility that these trans drugs laid the groundwork for this and that other people are culpable? Meanwhile, we'll change gears in a moment. Mike Tyson, now the Maha mascot. More on that in a moment.

[Greg Gutfeld]

From knockout punches to healthy lunches. Mike Tyson, now the celebrity mascot for Maha, joining RFK Jr. At this event.

[Jesse Waters]

Rule it.

[Trace Gallagher]

I'm just such a fan.

[Jesse Waters]

And this, this is the biggest fight of my life.

[Trace Gallagher]

I want to be.

[Jesse Waters]

I want to be a hero in this particular field because it affects my life, you know?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Dana, did you see him bite into that apple?

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, he's got a quite a bite.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Did the sound of it bother you?

[Dana Perino]

Probably, yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What do you make of this?

[Dana Perino]

I think it's wonderful when somebody finds a calling and feels passionate about it and can bring more audiences into the conversation.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, it's true. It's like Brian. Unlike you, he's very popular. And so this could have an influence on how people look at their diets.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, that's an interesting transition, but maybe I'll get a face tattoo and my popularity will skyrocket. I will say this. He's 100% right. I knew about his sister. He had a huge weight problem when he was a kid. He was made fun of and he had processed foods. One of the things people say is processed food is cheaper. Where does it end up? In working class communities when people go to eat, they eat this stuff and sometimes they don't eat a lot, but they can't get the weight off. Somehow we got to get the Whole Foods concept affordable in working class areas. And that's what he's trying to do. He said, I had no idea about this and I was training as an elite athlete. And that's why RFK deserves a lot of credit.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It I don't understand. Kennedy, maybe you can help me. What is so bad? What is a processed food? I don't know what that is.

[Kennedy]

Well, it's interesting because in some of the articles you have nutritionists saying, well, you could pretty much argue that anything is processed.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Kennedy]

Anything that is not, to Brian's point. A whole food, like a hard boiled egg or an apple or a chicken.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Breast if it's got other porcupine, is a whole food.

[Kennedy]

Well, it really is. It is very difficult to get down the gullet.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Kennedy]

Unless you take out the quills. But that is a multi stick stage process that I am not interested in engaging in. The thing I love about this story is Mike Tyson shows not only, you know, if you maintain that passion throughout your life, you are capable of anything. And he has had such an incredible evolution throughout his career and it makes you realize that people are capable of redemption. And I think there are a lot of people who followed his career who will listen to this more than just about anyone else in the Maha movement.

[Brian Kilmeade]

And you see RFK with the face tattoo.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. You know, Jesse, it's true. I mean, he is can be redeemed. Can you be redeemed?

[Jesse Waters]

I'm irredeemable.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Jesse Waters]

That's what Hillary said. So he was on on Friday and he said when he was back in the day, two huge bowls of Captain Crunch for breakfast and ice cream for lunch and junk food all day. And now he's perfectly healthy. He just smokes cannabis.

[Greg Gutfeld]

There you go. All right, up next, one more thing.

[Jesse Waters]

All right, let's go around the world here. That took 45 minutes to make in graphics. Let's go to Poland. It's fat Thursday, everybody. The polls are celebrating with a donut eating competition in Krakow. I think that's how you say it. Last chance to eat all the sweets you can before fasting for Lent. Is anybody fasting?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Here I am.

[Jesse Waters]

It doesn't look like it. Tonight, Jesse Waters, primetime. Johnny asked about Valentine's Day.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I take up all the time.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Who's your valentine?

[Dana Perino]

His name is Jesse Waters. No, a cooler Jesse.

[Jesse Waters]

Cooler Jesse does not exist. Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Tonight, Dana Perrito, 10pm Jeff Dye, Kennedy Tyrus.

[Dana Perino]

Dana, there was a guy, he was a. He was a robber and he used a forklift to break into this jewelry shop. But that's not the big part of the story. He was in no hurry to leave because when he left, he gone on his donkey and rode away.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What an ass.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, what an ass.

[Jesse Waters]

Thanks for watching.

[Kennedy]

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[Dana Perino]

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[Kennedy]

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[Brian Kilmeade]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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