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Dana Perino
Optimism isn't sunshine and rainbows.
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Greg Gutfeld
It's fixing things, changing things, changing the way we fix things.
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Dana Perino
Rolled up sleeves, breaking through growing power.
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Greg Gutfeld
To meet growing needs. Working to run the world on smarter.
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Emily Campagno
Energy every day, Taking power where the.
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Greg Gutfeld
Grid'S never been, then getting up and doing it again.
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Dana Perino
Because if optimism never stops, then change can't either. GE VERNOVA the ENERGY OF CHANGE hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Emily Campagno, Harold Ford Jr. Charlie Hurt and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. President Trump holding a cabinet meeting after he brokered a historic peace deal. Israel and Hamas agreeing to the first phase that would end the two year long war. The pact, which will be rolled out in steps to, requires Hamas to release all 48 of the remaining hostages, both dead and alive. And in exchange, Israel will withdraw from Gaza. To the yellow line you see drawn on the map there. President Trump says he's planning to be in the Middle east when the ink dries on history.
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Harold Ford Jr.
We ended the war in Gaza and really on a much bigger basis created peace. And I think it's going to be a lasting peace, hopefully an everlasting peace, peace in the Middle East. We are getting the hostages back on on Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday, and that will be a day of joy. We're going to see to it. Gaza is going to be slowly redone. You have tremendous wealth in that part of the world by certain countries. And just a small part of that, what they make will do wonders for Gaza.
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Dana Perino
The media struggling to wrap their heads around how the man they've spent a decade criticizing is now delivering this piece. Some reactions were glowing, but others not so much.
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Greg Gutfeld
Joe Biden could never do that and Donald Trump was able to do it. Do you worry that Trump wants to get the Nobel Prize on Friday?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Sort of. I mean, that's, I really don't mean.
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Greg Gutfeld
That as a joke. And if we see those remaining hostages freed and Israel begin its withdrawal, it is a remarkable achievement. I don't want to diminish the importance of this and obviously blessed are the peacemakers indeed. But it is worth pointing out this is a cease fire deal, right? This is not a larger peace deal. All credit to President Trump.
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Dana Perino
Tomorrow, the winner of last year's Nobel Peace Prize will be announced. And President Trump couldn't resist taking a little jab at that committee to give the honor to President Obama. Remember that Obama got a prize.
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Greg Gutfeld
He didn't even know what he got.
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Harold Ford Jr.
He got elected and they gave it.
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Greg Gutfeld
To Obama for doing absolutely nothing but destroying our country.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No, he was, he was not a good president, Charlie.
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Dana Perino
I think it was significant. David Ignatius is the foreign foreign policy columnist for the Washington Post. Long time there. Who in that clip said Biden couldn't have done this?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
And you think about Kamala Harris. Remember she said, I've looked at the maps. There's nothing more that could be done. Everybody should just fold their tents and go home. But President Trump bet on America and he used American leverage. He never wavered. He gave Israel the space to do what it needed to do to get to this point, but so that he could come in and say, okay, this is how we do this. And remarkably, that Hamas agrees to release all the hostages at once in the first phase, which can give the Israelis some comfort that a lot of their sacrifice was worth it.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah, it's nothing short of breathtaking. And David Ignatius is right. Joe Biden never could have done it. Even though Joe Biden is probably the most experienced foreign policy expert Washington has ever created and he did nothing but make a mess of the place. And I do think it's really significant that today is also the nine year anniversary of when the Nobel committee gave Barack Obama the Nobel Prize. And of course, countless wars, countless terrorist attacks later. You have a guy that is sort of the anti Obama, the opposite of Obama. Obama was a figment of the media's imagination. And every caricature that you've seen of Donald Trump being a fascist, a Nazi, evil, all these things is also a caricature. But it's like their villain of they've created this media villain. And the idea that this comes on a day like today, I think is so sweet. And nobody is exposed as being a fraud more. I mean, obviously Obama is exposed as a fraud, Joe Biden is exposed as a fraud, but nobody is exposed as a fraud as much as the media.
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Dana Perino
Yeah. And I think, Greg, you think about a lot of the Israelis who not only did you have the IDF fighting, but you had so many people in Israel one marching every day, never forgetting. And you had so many reservists who were going in there and putting that pressure on. Then you had President Trump agree to help Israel to go after Iran. Now you have all these proxies that are weakened. It is a remarkably changed region in just this first nine months of the year.
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Greg Gutfeld
I guess I just feel bad for the American protest movement. You know, how about all those activists who have to who traded in their signs for George Floyd to BLM to Palestine, then they had their climate change signs. Now they have to figure out what's next. You can't do trans. That's over. You can't do climate. No one cares no more. Blm. It's a fraud. I guess you could start with banning ice. That might be something new. Maybe bacteria rights. We have. We haven't gotten that far yet. I remember the early days when people used to accuse Trump of being a mafia don as though that were an insult. It's actually true. He is a mafia don, and that's a compliment. What does a mob boss do? He creates a distinction between pleasing him and displeasing him. You know, if you're a mafia don, you might. He might kiss you twice on the cheeks or he might cut your pinky off. And if people find out that it's just not worth the trouble with Trump, who is relentless to piss him off. Right? This is how I run my staff. It's like, no, no point in disagreeing with me. I'll make your life hell. And that's kind of what he does because he won't quit. And that's the comparison. There is something to be said about that, this comparing him to Kamala and Biden. Kamala was about fear. She was terrified of her own shadow. She was scared of actually doing anything. Biden didn't care. He just liked to wear. He just like to wear the jacket and the aviators. The other interesting thing about a mafia don is that their primary job is to keep the peace. But in order to keep the peace, you also have to express a glimmer of specific violence when necessary. And Trump had that too. With Soleimani, the Iran facilities, the pirates. I'm probably leaving something out.
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Emily Campagno
Midnight Hammer.
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Greg Gutfeld
Midnight Hammer. That was my nickname in college, Emily. Oh, and also the cartels. The cartels. Whether you are a contributor, a contractor, or a mob boss, you also need clientele. You need a track record. And Trump had been building the track record all this time, unlike any president with the Abraham Accords, the half dozen peace treaties, and what do you call them, truce deals. So if you thought this was impossible, you at least thought, well, maybe, if it is possible. This guy seems like he's been down this road. He's done it before. I think that. I don't think it's an understatement to say that he's the greatest president we have ever had.
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Dana Perino
And I think he has a new foreign policy doctrine. Right. So everyone tries to figure out, like, what's the foreign policy doctrine? Remember, Obama's was leading from behind. And what Trump has, he's like, okay, use American conflicts, American leadership to end conflicts. Lend a hand where you can. And that at the end of the day, aim for whatever ends the conflict fastest with the least amount of bloodshed. And, and then try to figure out a way for incentives, Harold, to keep the peace longer lasting. Because this is just phase one. And I know that there's caution in all of that, but the next phases shows a brighter future for the Middle east, should they want to take it.
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Charlie Hurt
Good to be with you. I hadn't seen you in a while. You're right. I give the president a lot of credit here today. It's important. Charlie talked about an anniversary, an important one. But one month ago today, recall the Israelis intended the objective was to kill some of the Hamas negotiators in Qatar. And it was in response from the day before. Remember, two Palestinian militants had killed six people on a bus in East Jerusalem that day. President Trump. Later that following day, President Trump was concerned and he was critical of the Israelis, saying that you had invaded the sovereign space. The Qataris were upset, but it was that moment that I think that really pushed things into gear. And the president called the Israelis. The Israelis had done an incredible job of allowing the midnight hammer, your nickname in college, to actually happen because they had demolished and created safety in the airspace. But it was really the last month, and I give the president tremendous credit for what he's done. And there's no doubt we showed a montage of people talking. We may have done a bit unfair to some of them, but you raised some of the points that I think they were trying to raise. Dana. The cease fire and the return of hostages are indispensable to us being able to get to the next steps. Meaning what does Hamas disarmament look like? What does a political arrangement or configuration in Gaza look like? Will Hamas be a part of it? Obviously, we hope not. What do the Israeli military configuration geographically look like going forward? And how do we think about the economics going forward? Who will contribute the most to rebuilding Gaza to allow for the kind of economic future that President Trump, I think, so eloquently talked about during the press conference with his. With his cabinet members? So I say to Democrats and Republicans, David Ignatius is right. Joe Biden could not have done this. At least he couldn't, didn't do it in his first term. And it's unlikely he would have behaved as President Trump has behaved over the last several months. I give him much credit for. But we should not be, should not kid ourselves the next several months are as critical, if not more critical, than the moment we find ourselves in today. As joyous as today is, do you.
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Greg Gutfeld
Think that TDS is now going to have to thaw because it has no choice at this point?
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Charlie Hurt
Some people, it probably won't, but you got to hope for saner minds and for middle, middle of the road minds, particularly my party. Well, it does.
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Dana Perino
Yeah. The placards are going to change to our health care.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yes, there you go.
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Dana Perino
That's what's next. But the other thing is. So these hostages are expected to be released, Emily, on Monday or Tuesday. Now, Israel also has to give something up. They're basically emptying out their prisons of convicted terrorists and they have to swallow that. And we also need to brace ourselves for the condition of the, hopefully the 20 remaining alive. We have to some of them might not be able to be seen because they are in such bad shape. So we have to brace ourselves for that. And I really admire President Trump for saying, okay, I'll drop right now and I will fly over there. I will be there to sign this and maybe even to greet them.
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Emily Campagno
I spoke with some of my friends in Israel today and of all of their comments and thoughts on the future and, you know, a sort of cautionary celebration and everything, nothing comes close to their jubilation over the hostages being returned. And so their considerations of potential future violence and the X's and O's of the remaining 19 points, everything that they feel is toward bringing their own home and we'll take care of them. And those that need those help and those that are in those horrific states only underscores what an evil entity Hamas is. And, you know, for all of this celebration, rightly so, we talked about the media, how they're distorting it. But, you know, who's conspicuously absent from the celebration are, weirdly, all of those Democratic lawmakers that have for two years been shouting about and holding signs up about and protesting on the grounds of Capitol Hill about a ceasefire. Rashida Tlaib and Delia Ramirez and Pramila Jayapal. Betty McCollum, AOC silent today. Zero statements on this historic day. And then there's the yes but crew, which, look, I understand that getting like the future might be harder. The future will require work. But I think today there can be a yes and and so we have the yes buts, Hakeem and Ilan Omar. And you know, they're always going to be crying about genocide and how that's shaped. But for those people who have said that our president is an autocrat and an isolationist. Today, I hope, proves them wrong, too, because we heard today in that cabinet meeting just how much he leveraged his existing relationships, how much authority he invested in his team to carry this out. He is not there bombastically beating down doors. He's actually negotiating with grace and with dignity and leveraging that dignity to his members, to his phenomenal team so that we Americans can benefit from that. And I think, as the secretary of state said, it's a geopolitical win, of course, but it's a human story. And everything, everything points to that moment when, when those hostages are returned home. And final quick quote about today, which is after so much pain, destruction and loss of life today, the guns in Gaza have gone silent. You know who said that? President Biden. Well, guess what? President Biden now, President Trump made that statement. True.
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Dana Perino
All right, you guys, did you hear this breaking news as well? Let me give it to you. The FOX News alert. Here is New York Attorney General Letitia James has been indicted in federal court for making false statements to a bank in order to secure favorable terms on a mortgage for her Virginia home. What.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
She indicated would be her primary residence. James was one of Trump's chief antagonists. You'll remember bringing a $454 million civil fraud case against the president and his company. But coming up next, it's a shutdown smackdown. Hakeem Jeffries and Mike Lawler had quite the blow up. We'll show you.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You're not going to talk.
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Greg Gutfeld
You're not going to talk to wasted.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Not going to talk to me and talk to New York because you don't want to hear what I have to say.
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Charlie Hurt
Oh, I'm listening.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Why don't you just keep your mouth shut?
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Charlie Hurt
I'll be somewhere over the radar dreaming about this rodeo.
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Greg Gutfeld
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Charlie Hurt
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Charlie Hurt
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Greg Gutfeld
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Dana Perino
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Emily Campagno
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Dana Perino
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Emily Campagno
Options available, taxes and fees extra. 7 Mint mobile.com it's the real Housewives of Capitol Hill. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Republican Mike Lawler getting into a brawler. A very heated exchange over the government shutdown that's now entered its ninth day.
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Charlie Hurt
We've got a one year extension. We sign on right now.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Did you get permission from your boss?
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Greg Gutfeld
Why don't we sign off?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Did your boss, Donald Trump easily extend.
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Charlie Hurt
Your boss, Donald Trump?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yes, he is.
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Charlie Hurt
No, he's not.
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Greg Gutfeld
By the way, ask you why did you vote for years?
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Charlie Hurt
You always need to keep the government.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You're making a show of this to me.
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Charlie Hurt
It's sad.
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Greg Gutfeld
You could easily sign on.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You're embarrassing yourself right now.
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Charlie Hurt
Sign on to the ceiling.
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Greg Gutfeld
You could sign on to the building.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Let me ask you a question.
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Charlie Hurt
You have four Democrats on here.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Let me ask you a question.
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Charlie Hurt
Pointed out that $1.2 billion wasted.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Listen, you're not wasted.
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Charlie Hurt
You're not going to talk.
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Greg Gutfeld
You're not going to talk to me.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You're not going to talk to me because you don't want to hear what I have to say.
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Dana Perino
Oh, I'm listening.
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Harold Ford Jr.
So why don't you just keep your mouth shut up?
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Emily Campagno
Oh, hard to watch. And the messaging just keeps getting worse for the Democrats. Schumer is dropping F bombs.
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Greg Gutfeld
Democrats have three words for this. No way. It's literally life or death. We will not let Republicans blow up our health care system.
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Emily Campagno
Oh, life or death. Schumer. Greg, doesn't this illustrate the disconnect between the Democrats and the American people? Because he went on to say, every day gets better for us about this shutdown. When are they ever going to prioritize Americans and us instead of their reelections?
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Greg Gutfeld
They don't look well. They don't look well. None of them do. If you, Even when you see Jefferies, that is the straight Obama, they look so fundamentally miserable. They're not happy. And I think what we're seeing right now is the opportunity cost of Trump derangement. They thought that that's where all their energy should go and it would cover for the areas that they neglected, like issues and policies and principles and personality and charisma. Like, there's. What's missing with a lot of these people is charisma, the power plus empathy. If you're in a position of authority and you show empathy, that's charisma. But you don't see that on the Democrats. Look at Katie Porter. Is that her name or whatever? She's not. There's no charisma there because she has authority, which she abuses. And you see that a lot with like Adam Schiff is like that. Nancy Pelosi is like that. They don't actually seem generous with their power. I think that if I, if I were to make the Democratic Party a person, I would say it's a drug addict. Right. And the, the addiction is Trump. It's not Trump derangement, it's Trump addiction. Because, you know, when you're an addict, your wife leaves you, your bills don't get paid, you're facing eviction, your friends start disappearing, you become Keith Olbermann. The Democrat Party is in desperate need of a rehab or a 12 step program. But they won't ask for help because they're too proud, they're too resentful, their ego's too big. They have to actually ask for help. And we might help them, but they have to ask first.
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Emily Campagno
Yeah. Somehow this all turned personal and profane, obviously. Is this just showing that they have a lack of message like, I think it shows?
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Dana Perino
Just also one other thing, which might sound a little petty, but why not? This is the part Hakeem Jeffries, there's no, I just checked. There's no record of him ever having done like, high school or college speech and debate. But Mike Lawler was a debater. And if you watch this exchange, which is very painful and I cringe and I want to crawl on a table, I'd like to mute it, but I listened to it for a while because Lawler has substituted points, and Hakeem Jeffries is just in his face, basically hurling personal insults, and that's not going to get the ball down the field. And Hakeem Jeffries has got this boredom in his eyes.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yes, That's.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
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Dana Perino
It's like he.
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Greg Gutfeld
No energy.
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Dana Perino
He knows that he is the face of the Washington Generals to Trump's Harlem Globetrotters. They know how this is going to end. Now, on the health care front, I've been saying for a while, the Republicans, once again into the breach, you have to have a proactive health care message and one that takes us in a direction that is better than what Europe has. Because Europe, if you look at their finances, it is a terrible situation. We have to be able to do more and better policy. So that is something that can be decided. But one of the things is they keep talking about these Obamacare subsidies. What isn't pointed out is that you can get an Obamacare subsidy for families making up to $600,000. Now, there are people who need more help and lower income people who need the help. But that conversation about people who are families who are making that kind of money, do they need these subsidies that were supposed to be temporary during Biden's time? I would say that most Americans would say not. But we can't even get to that discussion because they're just hurling personal insults at each other.
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Emily Campagno
Right.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I love that your sports analogy is the Harlem Globetrotters.
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Dana Perino
I remember going there.
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Emily Campagno
They're fun.
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Dana Perino
My parents took me when I was in Denver as a kid. I loved it.
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Emily Campagno
DANA reed, SPORTS so, yeah, Dana, making the point that Chris Wright, I thought brought up today, very well stated in the Oval Office or in the whatever, when he was saying that the Dems filibustered the leadership right up to a couple of weeks ago, and now they're filibustering the funding. The whole point is they're refusing to engage substantively. They're just engaging, shouting and outrage for their Tik Tok videos.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Well, it's so funny because of course, every time there's a government shutdown, Republicans always lose the PR war, every single time. And this time, it's almost like they don't even care. They're winning the PR fight this time, but they're also winning on substance, which you see right there. And then you wind up with Hakeem Jeffries having to dissemble and embarrass himself in this cringe. And I, with Dana, I just, you can't even, you can't even listen to it. You want, you want to mute it and crawl away. But at the end of the day, they, the problem for them is they don't have issues. They can talk about health care, but of course, I'm pretty sure Democrats already fixed health care. We have Obamacare. They did get that through. And I think most people, you know, there are people who benefited from it. But a whole, I would argue that far more people have been punished under Obamacare because they can't. Their insurance has gotten more expensive. So, so on the, not only are they losing the pr, they're also losing on, on the issues themselves. And I think a lot of it has to do with President Trump, his ability to manage to get Democrats to talk about the shiny objects all the time and then pivot and talk about issues that people actually care about. And that's why I think that Republicans are not only winning the arguments on the shutdown, but they're also winning the PR war.
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Dana Perino
Yeah.
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Emily Campagno
And I think this is a lost opportunity, Harold, because it feels like Democrats are governing through outrage and defiance rather than actual leadership, which they could have stood up and gelled and really made a substantive stride. What say you?
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Charlie Hurt
So you guys got a lot more out of that exchange than I did. I think that both of them sounded like fifth graders. Both of them carried on in ways that I think really expels out why many, many in the country, independents mainly, have lost real confidence in our system. Now, the truth is both of them have substantive positions, legitimate positions, and they have a legitimate difference. Mr. Jefferies believes that we should figure out a way to extend the health care subsidies guaranteed under the Affordable Care act that were expanded during COVID as Dana rightly pointed out. And Mr. Lawler, interestingly, the one part of this I listened to, he actually has a bill that actually comports with what Democrats want to do on this issue. And what he was asking, I believe, Mr. Jeffries, is why don't you sign onto the bill? Now, I would have thought that at that point Mr. Jeffries would have said, I'll sign it. And you know what? Come on to the office with me and let's call President Trump and let him know that there's another Republican that wants to do this as well. There's another Republican in addition to Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has said she thinks that Democrats have a legitimate point on health care. But instead, these guys took the bait and they couldn't stop arguing. I agree with you. I thought Mike had a little bit, Lawler had a little bit of a better exchange. But they both look like kids at my, in my, in my son's fifth grade class.
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Emily Campagno
I give the, I give the winning point to Lawler.
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Greg Gutfeld
Of course you do.
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Emily Campagno
All right, guys, coming up, the boys aren't the only ones who are fighting. Jasmine Crockett is taking shots at Kamala Harris. I know I'm leaving a better man.
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Greg Gutfeld
If you're an illegal alien, it's Will Tane Country. Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday through Thursday@fox news.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at Fox newspodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. It's a girl boss, Civil war. Even Jasmine Crockett knew that Kamala's campaign was a certified stinker. Jazzy recalling how the ex veep's team rejected her offer to campaign in rural America during the election until it was too late.
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Emily Campagno
When it came down to the presidential I told the team, I said, stop sending me to all the urban centers. Yes, I can do that.
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Dana Perino
Yes.
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Emily Campagno
But you got plenty of of surrogates.
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Dana Perino
That can go do that. You need to send me to rural America. And they were looking like, huh? And I'm like, listen, I was in East Texas. I live there. I know the struggles.
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Emily Campagno
I'm like, just. Just try me. Like, trust me on this.
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Greg Gutfeld
I feel like I just walked. No, I feel like I just walked into a bank and that lady was asking for a loan. And lady's like, I don't know. And the other one's gone. But here, I need a. It did not look like an actual show. Like, she's saying like, look, I have my stuff here. And the other lady's like, I'm sorry. And that's not racist. I'm just going by the body language. See? She's like going, I don't think you have the income for this. And she's like, but if you look at. If you look, I got the stubs. I got the stubs. And she's like, look, if I were in charge, I would. I would give you the loan right away.
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Dana Perino
It's not my call, but.
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Greg Gutfeld
It's not my call. And she said, is it because I'm black?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Just.
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Charlie Hurt
No.
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Greg Gutfeld
I have black friends. And she goes, show me one of your black friends. And she goes, I'll be right back. And then she runs outside, gets into a car, goes to Brooklyn. She finds like a microbrewery, she gets.
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Dana Perino
Wasted, and then she comes up with a campaign strategy for Congress.
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Greg Gutfeld
Exactly. I have nothing else to add to this. Let's go to Harold, because Harold knows banking. He knows banking.
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Charlie Hurt
This is another. We did a clip yesterday on Katie Porter, the candidate for governor in California who couldn't answer questions. And we now have this. Ms. Crockett is saying that the Harris campaign didn't understand that they're rural America and urban America. What Democrats are lacking. And it's great to do all these autopsies on things. We need ideas, we need answers. People are looking for ways to help make their lives more affordable all across the country. Looking back at what should have been done in the Harris campaign or not wanting to answer follow up questions from reporters is not the path to victory.
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Greg Gutfeld
Dana, what do you think?
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Dana Perino
Well, first of all, nobody really ever saw a show that we did years and years ago called Daytona.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
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Dana Perino
Is a morning show. And we lived like it was like a joke show, a parody. I thought that we were watching that.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
With like the fake set and everything behind you. It's held up with like, chicken wire and duct tape. When Jasmine Crockett is the one mocking the political wisdom of something like Kamala Harris to is going campaign, you know, things aren't great. And I Agree with Harold. Of course, there has to be a way to look forward. But I also think Jasmine Crockett's not wrong. You cannot expect to win these elections. If you look at the electoral map, if you think you can only win those blue cities and you're going to win, you're probably going to come up short. You have to win at least some of those rural votes. And at least she was trying. Trying. But she's somebody who called ice slave patrols Trump Hitler. She attacks police. She complains about white tears. Remember, she called Governor Greg Abbott, Governor Hot Wheels. Not sure how well that's going to go over in rural America, but she.
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Greg Gutfeld
Did call him hot. So there's something there. Emily, you are, I think people don't know that you were the inspiration for Mean Girls. So what's going on here? Is Jasmine making her move? Is she like saying, like, I'm the new chicken town, you're gone, Kamala.
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Emily Campagno
Oh, maybe you know more about Mean Girls than I do. I thought it looks like an Eastern European figure skating, you know, like a local competition.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
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Emily Campagno
Okay, here's the thing. I'm removing the identity from this person because I wholeheartedly agree with you that she has lost her credibility to speak about anything political. However, what she said, I thought was actually really true. Because in Kamala's campaign, like, it wasn't tactical that they overlooked the rural communities. That is their blind spot. We have learned, right? Urban is the base and rural is right off. And that's what they have shown that they think about Republicans and also half of their Democrat party. And I think this also showed, if this is true, that their consultant logic always dominates any type of local instinct. No, the polls show, nope, this script is, is, you know, true and tested. And this is what the digital model is saying. And then they come out and according to this story, then all of a sudden, ok, you were right. We're going to send you to rural communities. And now it's too late. Everything that they do is this sort of academic, cerebral, you know, creation of this mechanism without actually just sitting down and being like, what do my constituents need? What do Americans need? It's like they're always disconnected. And final point, their message collapsed. It's like a beef Wellington, as I learned at the commercial break what that puff thing is, because this whole time they were saying things like save democracy and protect rights and save jobs. But if they really meant it, then they would have been in those small towns. They would have been at the factories. All of it was just empty words.
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Charlie Hurt
She just ran a crappy campaign. Yeah, the day. That's what it was. I mean.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Charlie, I think she should have gone with souffle and not be Wellington, but okay, that's just an analogy destroyed.
- [29:33]
Harold Ford Jr.
You are the analogy police.
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Greg Gutfeld
Thank you, sir.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah, no, I mean, obviously the criticism is correct about the campaign, but also, I think she's totally lying. She didn't tell anybody.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, that's right.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Send me there. And by the way, can you imagine if they did send her there? The campaign did try to go with Tim Walsh, and they sent him all over the country. And I think the only thing that would have been a bigger disaster than sending Tim Waltz around the country would be sending that woman to rural areas all around the country, because they wouldn't know what to make of her, and they certainly wouldn't. She wouldn't convince them to vote for Kamala Harris.
- [30:08]
Greg Gutfeld
All right, let's move on, shall we? Up next, can losing your TDS make you a hottie?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Great news for TDS sufferers everywhere. Losing your Trump derangement syndrome apparently can make you hotter.
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Dana Perino
I'm living proof that you can recover from tds. I had strong Trump derangement syndrome for probably eight years. And by the way, it's much better to not have tds. I'm happier, I'm healthier, more successful. I even think I got a little more attractive.
- [31:02]
Harold Ford Jr.
So, Greg, you never suffered tds, but you were a little Trump skeptical, I think, at the beginning. Did you feel yourself getting hotter as you.
- [31:10]
Greg Gutfeld
Well, this is when I stopped being. So I let go of my TDS when I noticed it was affecting my looks. And people were saying, greg, usually you. You're like a 9, 8, 9, 9. You're kind of like an 8. I got. I'm letting the hate come out of my pores. And that's the point I want to make, Charlie, is that you can't be attractive when you have unattractive thoughts. The mind and the body, they kind of intertwined. That's why you see a lot of the people at these protests, these activists, they. They have the raw material, and they're young, but they look so ugly. I mean, it's amazing what TDS can do to your body. I mean, the perfect example, obviously, is Kathy Griffin. She went from. No, she did. I mean, it's true. She went from Carrot Top to Carrot rock bottom. I mean, my goodness. But anyway. But just compare, like, activists at Columbia with a. Like, Charlie Kurt's memorial or. Or a Turning Point event. It's like they're like, it's like Glee with hot people versus like just a sad, pathetic rabble. And that has to do with. People will figure this out in time or their life will be over. You have to understand that negative thoughts, it destroys you. You will never be anything good if you walk around with a chip on your shoulder.
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Harold Ford Jr.
So true. Emily, do you think that this phenomenon applies to both men and women?
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Emily Campagno
Probably, because I wholeheartedly agree. And my, my points were sort of the inverse, which is that joy is always beautiful. Like happy and joyful people are always more attractive. It's the glow. So you could call this the TBS glow or the, the Jesus glow, like we say. But with happiness glows. And remember Marilyn Monroe said that a smile is the best makeup a girl can have. Like the reality.
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Greg Gutfeld
Great point, Emily.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You know, Harold, nobody dies. I think, I think it's true about, about happiness. And it does seem like there are a lot of people in the Democrat party who are sucking on prunes lately.
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Charlie Hurt
They do like hate and narrow mindedness are never, never a good combination. And I think whether it's in politics, whether it's how you approach life and any of its facets and any of any pursuits that you have character and decency and love and joy always win out. I wish my pal Jesse was here who discovered Jesus and talked about it yesterday. These are the kinds of.
- [33:39]
Greg Gutfeld
He's getting baptized right now. That's why he's not here. That's why he's not here.
- [33:47]
Charlie Hurt
These are the traits that Jesse is committing his life to and these are the traits that whatever you politics or whatever. So have more joy and less hate.
- [33:58]
Harold Ford Jr.
Any advice?
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Dana Perino
Well, sometimes there's like a few phrases that Greg has said over the years that I will never forget. Like when he said that the Clinton Global Initiative was a scandal condom. Like that was 14 years ago. And I still think about it and it still makes me laugh. But carrot top to carrot rock bottom well, is in the category. All I was thinking was that as my dermatologist says, it's not what you put on your skin, it's what you put in your skin. It's the same with your heart and your brain. So I think that if you have tds, they should run a prescription drug ad. I just wrote one that at the very end somebody whispers. Orienting your entire life around politics could cause migraines, extreme loneliness, chronic belly aches, insomnia and liver damage from too much drinking.
- [34:40]
Emily Campagno
Yes.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Nice.
- [34:41]
Greg Gutfeld
True.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Any follow up, Greg?
- [34:43]
Greg Gutfeld
No, I'm good.
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Charlie Hurt
I'm good.
- [34:44]
Greg Gutfeld
I don't want to get any more trouble.
- [34:45]
Charlie Hurt
Okay.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Coming up next, Hub sons and trad wives. The battle of who runs the house next.
- [35:03]
Charlie Hurt
For pain.
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Greg Gutfeld
In multiple spots, like.
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Charlie Hurt
Here'S a sign of the times, there's a new trend of Gen Z Hubsons. Grown adults who are living rent free at home and doing various chores for their moms during the break. Emily said you had a strong opinion about this. What's your opinion on this issue?
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Emily Campagno
Okay, so I feel like everyone thinks this is absolutely ridiculous, but I love this. I love this. Here's why. Because in the collapse of the family unit that we have seen, and people living beyond their means, young people and people missing time with their moms, as we now see in older generations, a greater occurrence of dementia and a terrible loss of quality of life. I personally love the idea of people having that time with their parents. And also we have seen higher statistics of elderly women alone. So that means that they do have a man in the house to take care of them in that way. I think that's phenomenal. I feel like I'm about to be eviscerated.
- [35:57]
Dana Perino
I love it.
- [35:58]
Charlie Hurt
Charlie, you seen Psycho?
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Emily Campagno
This is.
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Dana Perino
This is.
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Emily Campagno
This is like wholesome and people. It's like love. I think it's wonderful. It's like the community.
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Harold Ford Jr.
At the very least, it's failure to launch. I mean, the whole point of raising children is for them to go away. If they don't go away, then you've done something wrong, Right.
- [36:20]
Emily Campagno
I feel like everyone's dying and then we do.
- [36:23]
Charlie Hurt
We have a hybrid middle of the road position.
- [36:25]
Dana Perino
Well, I mean, I was thinking about Europe, right? So they have a very high youth unemployment rate rate. That's exacerbated that. You have many people who are continuing to live with their parents for way longer. They have a lower birth rate. Like, there are consequences for these types of things. At least in this case, the moms are not doing the chores. At least in the. In the examples that we had in our very extensive research.
- [36:47]
Charlie Hurt
You look like you are channeling Brit Hume there.
- [36:50]
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, I am. I am. My good friend, Harold Ford Jr. We had a word for Hub sons back in the day. They were called homosexuals. You lived at your mom. You were a homosexual. That's just the way it was back then. And that's the way it has to be. This is not a real story, okay? Again, New York Post does this all the time. They have, like a freelance writer, he wants to write off his meals with his mom, and he goes, you know what? I'm Going to spend a week with my mom and do an undercover piece. Being a hub son. And then he gets to. He gets to. I used to do this all the time when I was a magazine writer. I'd like, oh, I want to go. I want to go to a spa with my girlfriend. And then I'll go, hmm, I'll pitch a story. Spas for men. And then they just totally expense it. This is such a fake story. They couldn't even find one person. I know, Emily, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I also enjoy doing it because I'm a sadist.
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Charlie Hurt
You have a 10 second counter to any of this?
- [37:44]
Emily Campagno
Well, for example, in the Bay Area where I grew up, our good neighbor John Day, who runs a company, John Deere Knight, he does this like he helps everyone. That's my point. So people are paying someone else to help them with their packages, bring their prescription drugs or listing for groceries. All these women are need help. So this is happening naturally and organically.
- [37:57]
Greg Gutfeld
Is he a homosexual?
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Charlie Hurt
One more thing. One more thing Is.
- [38:09]
Emily Campagno
A heart attack. Do they have.
- [38:14]
Dana Perino
Time now for one more thing? Greg.
- [38:15]
Greg Gutfeld
Thanks, Dana. Tonight we have Charlie hurt.
- [38:18]
Harold Ford Jr.
What?
- [38:19]
Greg Gutfeld
Cause Jesse's getting baptized. Michelle Tafoya Sherrod. Small cat tip. Hey, let's do this, Greg. Screw this. Drone news. So I was in Arizona last Saturday. What was the name of the town? Dang. Anyway, I. I wasn't told. It rhymes with Priscuit. Prescott, Arizona.
- [38:38]
Dana Perino
Prescott.
- [38:39]
Greg Gutfeld
Prescott. My. They had used a drone. Not Prescott, but somebody used a drone on me and did not tell me. And so I'm starting my show. Notice how large that crowd is, Emily. One day, maybe, maybe you will have a crowd like that. But I saw it and I started throwing candy at it. And I thought that was it. And I'm starting my show. And yet it keeps coming back. It keeps coming. And by the way, I am not joking. I'm pissed off at this because it's like, watch this.
- [39:08]
Dana Perino
Bam.
- [39:10]
Greg Gutfeld
I hit the thing.
- [39:11]
Dana Perino
But it survived.
- [39:12]
Greg Gutfeld
It did survive, but you see, it goes away.
- [39:14]
Charlie Hurt
The athleticism and agility you showed there.
- [39:16]
Emily Campagno
Yes.
- [39:18]
Greg Gutfeld
I'm not your average white guy, Harold.
- [39:23]
Dana Perino
All right, I'm going to go next. A loyal Florida dog named E War. It's actually Eeyore. I'm like, what Gen Z person put this pronunciation here? Eeyore. It's Eeyore. Eeyore. Oh, my God. Anyway, he's being hailed a hero. This is really a story about him. He helped cops find and save his grandma who got hurt after taking a fall. Watch Here. Hi. Hi. Where's your mama? Tell me where his mom is. I've got you.
- [39:52]
Harold Ford Jr.
Ma'.
- [39:52]
Dana Perino
Am. Hey ma', am. Can you tell me what happened? Did you tell me what happened?
- [39:57]
Greg Gutfeld
The dog brought here.
- [39:59]
Dana Perino
Thankfully, the 86 year old woman only suffered a non life threatening leg injury. Eeyore. Good job Gen Z. See me after class. Harold.
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Charlie Hurt
Human beings just like this. Nine year old Kaylee Maphaze in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania is the founder of an organization called Create youe Courage Foundation. Each week she hosts weekly art therapy classes to help young people ages 2 to 15 deal with trauma and other challenges. She wants to encourage her peers to recognize their talents, paint through their pain, draw out their feelings and journal the day. Bless your heart, young lady. Keep doing it, Emily.
- [40:35]
Dana Perino
How fast can you go?
- [40:36]
Emily Campagno
All right, so guys, I have the honor of this weekend at the leesburg car show. My 72 Mach 1 took home best of show. But even more meaningful and special to me, she took home the police Choice Choice award. So a huge thank you to the Leesburg Police Department for voting Melosa their top pick in that 37th annual Leesburg Classic Car show and above. Yeah, thank you for your service. First and for all of you guys that voted my car number one. It was such a joy to meet you all and she was amongst legends, that's for sure.
- [41:05]
Dana Perino
Charlie, do you have pictures of Jesse's baptism?
- [41:08]
Harold Ford Jr.
No, I don't. Second best. It's the annual Buffalo Racing festival in Thailand. Hundreds of people flock towns each of Chonburi province.
- [41:18]
Dana Perino
That's an interesting place to sit.
- [41:20]
Greg Gutfeld
Nice parade.
- [41:20]
Charlie Hurt
Yeah, that might be where Jesse is.
- [41:22]
Dana Perino
That's it for us.
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Greg Gutfeld
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