Trump Calls Platner A “Pig”

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Five

Episode: "Trump Calls Platner a 'Pig'"
Date: June 10, 2026
Host: FOX News Podcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Five dives into several high-profile topics making headlines, with particular focus on:

• Former President Trump and the panel's reaction to Graham Platner, the scandal-plagued Democratic Senate nominee in Maine, whom Trump and panelists refer to as a "pig" due to his controversial past.
• The broader implications for Democratic strategy, standards, and the notion of political redemption.
• Explosive congressional hearings targeting the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) over funding and hate group allegations.
• The effectiveness of Seattle’s new “tiny home” policy for the homeless.
• Breaking news on U.S. military airstrikes against Iranian targets.
• Lighter fare on birth order psychology and pop-culture oddities.

The panelists—Emily Compagno, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld—engage in spirited debate, swapping pointed banter, memorable quips, and fiercely partisan analysis.

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Main Segments & Key Discussions

1. The Graham Platner Candidacy and Democratic Standards

(00:20–15:20)

• Trump and Panel’s Language:
  Trump and the hosts compare Platner to a "pig," referencing allegations of domestic abuse, a Nazi tattoo, and serial sexting, sparking a wider conversation about party standards and the Democrats’ willingness to forgive for political expediency.

  • Greg Gutfeld: “I actually think the one in Maine is worse because he’s just an outright pig.” (00:20)
  • Emily Compagno: “Lefty voters said no biggie to credible allegations of domestic abuse, or that Nazi tattoo, or his serial sexting with women while married just one year ago.” (00:31)

• Redemption & Public Statements:
  Platner’s refrain of being “on a path to redemption” is dissected, with skepticism regarding his sincerity and the party’s embrace.

  • Satirical rephrase of Platner’s apology: Greg Gutfeld (as Platner): “Redemption is not just some simple or easy destination. It’s a journey. I’ve made mistakes in my life, mistakes that I regret, that I live with and that I continue to learn from.” (01:02)

• Media Critique – Morning Joe's Sympathetic Interview:
  The panel lampoons MSNBC’s Morning Joe for shaping Platner’s redemption narrative and critiques the left’s alleged double standard.

  • Dana Perino: “He was giving Platner all… it’s like leading the witness right in a courtroom. He’s like, tell me about your trauma and how it hurt your character.” (02:58)

• Democratic Turnout and Strategic Debate:
  Analysis of high Democratic turnout in Maine and whether Platner’s flaws will matter to voters more motivated by party loyalty and existential political framing.

  • Dana Perino: “I don’t care. I’m blue no matter who.” (04:00)
  • Greg Gutfeld: “For Democrats who are always fighting Hitler, every tool is acceptable, including electing a Nazi to fight Hitler… They built a frame that excuses the behavior that they condemn.” (04:52)

• Battle of Existential Framing:
  The hosts explore whether focusing on Platner’s scandals or switching to policy offers Republicans a path forward.

  • Jesse Watters: “You can’t say, oh, he’s a racist, he’s a Nazi… Look what that’s done to Donald Trump. He’s been elected twice. Yes, the guy is an ogre. He’s a degenerate. He looks like he lives under a bridge. But I don’t think that’s gonna cut it because the Democrats will rally around someone like that.” (09:36)
  • Jessica Tarlov: “What people are looking for... They want someone in office who they don’t think can be bought off.” (13:58)

Notable Quotes

• Greg Gutfeld: “They want to drum up fake Nazism, but then they get a real one.” (17:31)
• Emily Compagno: “If you choose Platner over Collins, you have to admit that your existential argument is a sham.” (05:39)

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2. Southern Poverty Law Center Under Fire

(15:46–24:20)

• Allegations and Congressional Pressure:
  The SPLC is confronted by Congress for allegedly funding neo-Nazi and KKK groups as paid informants, drawing analogies to money laundering.

  • Jesse Watters: “You can’t pay the Klan to publish manifestos and recruit more racists. This is not paying an informant. This is growing the Klan.” (20:27)

• Charity vs. Intelligence:
  The panel disputes the SPLC’s justification for informant payments, likening the organization’s actions to a charity funding its cause’s enemies for profit.

• Accusations of Political Targeting and Fake “Hate”:
  Discussion on the expanding definition of “hate groups” and the SPLC’s inclusion of conservative or religious organizations.

  • Emily Compagno: “It is mind boggling that the New York Times and Washington Post and other universities continue to cite them… as some type of authority of what hate means…” (22:10)

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3. Seattle’s Homeless ‘Tiny Villages’

(24:54–31:10)

• Local Policy Critique:
  The mayor of Seattle faces criticism over new “tiny home” shelters that allow substance use and don’t require treatment, with the hosts asserting this is a failed (even enabling) approach.

  • Emily Compagno: “Every one of those tiny shelters costs $16,000. Seattle already pays almost $1 million per homeless person… You eliminate the pull factors and that is drug use.” (25:58)
  • Greg Gutfeld: “They call them tiny homes, but for you it’s a mansion… This is zombie storage. I hate it. But it’s a better solution than letting them wreak havoc on people on the street. I mean, at least they’re not attacking kids. This is basically junkie island.” (27:16)

• Alternative Proposals and Partisan Sniping:
  Banter includes tongue-in-cheek “solutions” like busing the homeless to Mexico, underscoring partisan divides on social policy.

  • Jesse Watters: “Why experiment? We know what to do. You take them on a bus and you send them to Mexico…” (29:24)
  • Jessica Tarlov: “You can’t ship American citizens to another country. Just as a basic…” (30:35)

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4. Breaking News: U.S. Strikes in Iran

(31:52–37:54)

• Live Coverage:
  Jennifer Griffin reports live on U.S. military strikes against Iranian targets, analyzing strategy, target selection (radar, coastal ports, infrastructure), and diplomatic signaling with the Iranians.
  • Jennifer Griffin: “Tonight, Secretary Hegseth told reporters… the US Is willing to negotiate with bombs if need be.” (32:50)
  • Dana Perino: “I can never remember in the past when the USA has said when the bombing was going to begin. So clearly this is designed to pressure the Iranian leaders to get back to the negotiating table.” (35:59)

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5. Lighter Segment: Birth Order and Pop Culture

(38:13–44:19)

• Washington Post Study:
  The panel discusses birth order impacts, drawing on personal anecdotes.

  • Dana Perino: “The thing is though, with my younger sister, she was obviously the family favorite.” (38:33)
  • Greg Gutfeld: “I was the youngest of four and I think you get the best of everything as long as you have three older sisters.” (40:04)

• Sports, Odd News, and Humorous Bits:

  • Celebration of King Buzzo’s 10th golf hole-in-one, space suit fashion by Prada, and a tranquilized bear rescue.
  • Greg Gutfeld (about the SPLC staff dating a neo-Nazi): “I just find it great that an SPL staffer shacked up with a neo Nazi when they said screw hate, meant it.” (24:20)

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Democratic Strategy:
  Greg Gutfeld: “We live in two worlds, reality and politics. In reality, if Collins wins, life goes on. Nothing really changes… In politics, if Platner loses, a fascist regime will destroy democracy.” (06:14)

• On Double Standards:
  Jessica Tarlov: “Susan Collins loves to say I’m pro choice… but yet she votes for Republican nominees to the court who go ahead and put through a decision like the Dobbs decision…” (12:56)

• On Advocacy and Labels:
  Emily Compagno: “They also, by the way, vilified explicitly… citizen journalists… That is who they are now saying are literally white supremacists and Ku Klux. It is such a joke to me.” (22:10)

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Timeline of Major Segments

• 00:20–15:20 — Maine Senate Race: Trump, Platner, Democratic standards, media, strategy debate.
• 15:46–24:20 — SPLC Controversy: Congressional grilling, hate label debate, charity vs. intelligence.
• 24:54–31:10 — Seattle’s Homeless Policy: Critique of “tiny homes,” enabling addiction, alternative solutions.
• 31:52–37:54 — Breaking News: U.S. airstrikes on Iranian targets, live report, military/diplomatic analysis.
• 38:13–44:19 — Lighter Fare: Birth order psychology, sports, bizarre news, and closing banter.

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Overall Tone

The episode’s tone is combative, highly satirical, and partisan, with sharp jabs at Democratic hypocrisy, left-leaning media, and progressive policies, countered with moments of self-deprecating humor and personal stories in the lighter segments. The panel’s language is provocative and highly colloquial, ranging from outright insults (“pig,” “Nazi,” “junkie island”) to pop-culture references and lively ribbing.

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For Further Listening

If you want a concise yet colorful account of contemporary American debate over political double standards, media narratives, and culture war issues—with breaking news thrown in—this spirited episode of The Five is a microcosm of the current moment.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

Foreign.

[Emily Compagno]

I'm emily compagno along with jessica tarloff, jesse waters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. It's five o' clock in new york city, and this is the five.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I actually think the one in Maine is worse because he's just an outright pig. He's like a pig.

[Jesse Watters]

I watched him a couple of times. He's like a pig.

[Emily Compagno]

President Trump is making his opinion clear as scandal plagued Graham Platner wins the Democrat Party's nomination for the U.S. senate in Maine. Lefty voter said no biggie to credible allegations of domestic abuse or that Nazi tattoo or his serial sexting with women while married just one year ago. Never mind all that. Platner will now square off against longtime Republican incumbent Senator Susan Collins in the general election. And he wants voters to know that he's on a path to redemption.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Redemption is not just some simple or easy destination. It's a journey. I've made mistakes in my life, mistakes that I regret, that I live with and that I continue to learn from. And I'm still far from perfect. But every day I wake up and I try to be a little bit better and a little bit kinder than I was the day before.

[Emily Compagno]

Democrat Maine voters aren't the only ones looking to past Platner's disturbing history. The candidate ran right into the welcoming arms of Morning Joe to help him explain away his controversies.

[Jesse Watters]

The scandals, so called scandals.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Give us a timeline for your struggles

[Jesse Watters]

with PTSD and how you believe it impacted you personally and explains many of the character failings.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Much like getting over any kind of trauma, there isn't like one day where you're not doing well and then one day you're magically good again. It's a journey.

[Dana Perino]

You say there's nothing out there that could be concerning.

[Greg Gutfeld]

There's nothing out there that's actually concerning.

[Emily Compagno]

And despite the barrage of bad deeds being unearthed, Democrats like James Carville, who initially supported Janet Mills, say that we can all identify somehow with the nipple Nazi.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But I think Platinum might be just

[Jesse Watters]

his ideas and the things that his courage and also his imperfections are imperfections

[Greg Gutfeld]

that we can all identify with.

[Jesse Watters]

Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And also I think there's forgiveness. I don't think Republicans at this point

[Emily Compagno]

can ask us to take the moral high ground.

[Jesse Watters]

There you go.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That is over at this point. That's right. That is over.

[Dana Perino]

It's time for Democrats to stop, stop that nonsense.

[Jesse Watters]

Put emotions on the side.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Let's be strategic. Let's get some power.

[Jesse Watters]

You're seeing a star is born.

[Emily Compagno]

There's so much to say. All right, Dana, let's start out just in general.

[Dana Perino]

Okay.

[Emily Compagno]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

There's so much, I think we know about his character. And what I thought was interesting about Morning Joe is that he was giving Platner all. Of. It's like leading the witness right in a courtroom. He's like, tell me about your trauma and how it hurt your character and how it was like. And he basically listed all of the things that Platner could then say is obviously very practiced. He also said flat out to Mika, there's nothing more to come. But we of all, everybody's heard the rumors, like, there's more to come. However, I will say this. I think that what Sunny Hostin just said is where the Democrats are at the moment. And there was huge turnout of Democrats in Maine last night. And while I still believe that. That Susan Collins will win, when she ran in 2000, she won by nine points. I don't think Maine has changed that much in six years. But something's happening. Bernie Sanders is winning all of these different primaries, and there is energy behind

[Emily Compagno]

that part of the party.

[Dana Perino]

I don't know what's going to happen in some of these state races. You could look at it and just logically say, well, that doesn't make sense. He's obviously terrible. He could never win. But when you have turnout like that in a state like Maine that has shown an independent streak, then I do think it might be harder than people think and it'll be more expensive than people think. And I just keep remembering this one guy that Alexis McAdams, when she was there, she interviewed a couple different people, and this guy said, I don't care. I'm blue no matter who. So if that's the idea behind it, then the Republicans are not going to be able to just say, obviously, this guy is a monster and a pig, and he's terrible. I don't know if that will cut it.

[Emily Compagno]

Yeah. So strategically, Greg, does that mean that instead of focusing on his imperfections as they were painted, should it now just be about policy? Will that help Susan win?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't know. I just look at this, I step back, and I see what happens when you frame everything as an existential threat. For Democrats who are always fighting Hitler, every tool is acceptable, including electing a Nazi to fight Hitler, because you need to win the Senate to destroy Hitler. So if you think about all of the bad things that have happened, say, in the last 10 years or so, they're directly linked to this framing that we're fighting a fascist Dictator. They built a frame that excuses the behavior that, that they condemn. That is why you saw the MeToo movement go away. And now after calling everybody a Nazi, they throw their weight behind one. What have we seen in the last 10 years? We've seen three assassination attempts, the murder of Charlie Kirk, riots and looting, covering up a brain dead president, election tampering, censorship, lying to the public. And now you see the Democrat embracing a Nazi misogynist. Because the circumstances are life and death, even though they are not. The Dems always portray this next election as something that will cause the end of the world. That way all of their so called principles can easily evaporate. For us, it's not existential. We think Platner sucks and he's a pig. But you know what? We'll keep living. But Democrats, they're like fentanyl addicts and politics is their fentanyl. So they don't care what they look like when they're doing it. So when you're looking at them and you're going, what are you doing? They're like the world, the world. What should remaining principal Democrats do? Well, they should support Collins. She's a liberal Republican. She has an incredibly low American Conservative Union rating. That doesn't seem to me as an existential choice. The Democrats back isn't against the wall here. It's not like you're choosing between Platner and David Duke. You're choosing between Platner and a woman with the lowest conservative rating. I think of all senators, she'll cross party lines like it's a crack in the sidewalk. It's not a big deal. So if you choose call, if you choose Platner over Collins, you have to admit that your existential argument is a sham. Because what you're saying is even if things are okay, that is, you could vote for Collins, you would still vote for the Nazi. We live in two worlds, reality and politics. In reality, if Collins wins, life goes on. Nothing really changes in politics. If Platner loses, a fascist regime will destroy democracy. Because in politics, the stakes are delusionally high. Who made those stakes high? The Democrats. We do not have to play ball in this delusion. I never want to hear another moral lecture from those douchebags at Morning Joe. I always knew it was fake. I said it was fake. But now when you see him set up that crap for, you know, these people are absolutely abysmal. And, but by the way, the hysteria around Trump will not go away. Whoever comes next, that'll be Hitler. That'll be a Fascist, too. And they will do the same thing.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Thing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

God knows what they might elect next.

[Emily Compagno]

Right? Standards are obliterated when you are in the apocalypse. You don't care who you're fighting alongside. Give me Weinstein, give me Platinum. Right? Platinum. All that matters is that we defeat the enemy because our lives depend on it.

[Jesse Watters]

I like what Greg said. He's like, the Democrats have meth mouth. They're okay with it. They look in the mirror, no teeth. It's fine. You got to do what you got to do. I've spent years living in Maine, and Platner is a vibe. I understand why he's connecting. This guy's voice sounds like a pickup truck driving over gravel. This guy wears L.L. bean jeans. He looks like he drinks a lot and spends a lot of time on a dock. He's got tattoos. He's a Marine. He's a Bernie bro from next door in Vermont. He's kind of got Oliver Anthony energy. Like he hates the rich men. So he's a liar and he's kind of a fraud. But he's getting away with it because Maine is a poor, white New England state. Fuel costs are really high. They don't eat well there. Their health care costs are really high. When I go there, I don't eat well. So he's tapped into it, and just tapping into it is enough to get elected these days. The Republicans just can't sensationalize them. I. I agree with Dana. Remember when we metooed Bill Clinton? What'd that do? They tried to. Me too. Trump, what'd that do? You can't say, oh, he's a racist, he's a Nazi. I mean, look what that's done to Donald Trump. He's been elected twice. Yes, the guy is an ogre. He's a degenerate. He looks like he lives under a bridge. But I don't think that's gonna cut it because the Democrats will rally around someone like that. If everyone's throwing this at him and he's lying and he's kind of getting through it, they're gonna say, hey, maybe this guy's cooking. The Republicans have to hit him on policy. He's going to raise taxes. He's going to abolish ice. Green New Deal. He has absolutely no common sense solutions for Maine. In fact, if he gets in there and Collins is out, he can't bring home the bacon. When the Republicans control the Senate, they'll throw Susan stuff. When the Democrats control it, they'll throw Susan pork. If this guy gets in there he's cut off cuz he's a Bernie guy and the Republicans think he's nuts. So I would hit him like that with a laser beam right between the eyes. And we do a cable show so we sensationalize it. It's fun to talk about nipples and Nazism and sexting, but that's not gonna do it. Yes, we're talking about that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I can't stop.

[Emily Compagno]

I've been dying to ask you why the Democrats didn't use their. The weight of the machine that we have seen at play literally remove, disappear people all over this United States. Why didn't they find someone more normal while I'm in the conspiracy theory? Why didn't they find a candidate that maybe wouldn't even have the ogre? Why didn't they put the machine behind?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, they tried. The machine hunted Jared golden, who would have trounced in this primary. But he doesn't want to be in politics anymore because of the tone and the tenor of it that his family gets threats. And he was like, you know what? I'm out of here. He's a moderate guy who wins Maine second when the state goes for Trump. Jared golden still wins. He's got tattoos, he's got the whole thing. He doesn't quite sound like the truck running over gravel, but he sounds pretty damn good. He didn't want to do it. Then Chuck Schumer went and he got Janet Mills, who Janet Mills was six years younger. It might have worked at this moment, but Jesse and I don't know, clip this. Jesse Watters is right. I don't think I've said that before. And to what Greg said about nothing changes if Susan Collins is the senator again, if she wins reelection. That is the problem for Mainers and that is the problem across this country. They want change agents. You guys were the ones who were telling me in 2016, what happens if

[Greg Gutfeld]

you don't get it?

[Jessica Tarlov]

What do you mean?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Then what does the world end?

[Jessica Tarlov]

You know what happens? So Susan Collins, who touts her independence streak, now votes with Trump 95% of the time. So she continues to back his agenda and guess what? There's going to be one, maybe two Supreme Court seats up and Susan Collins is going to vote for his nominee, who will be an even younger Brett Kavanaugh like she did for Kavanaugh. And you know who won't do that? Graham Platner will stand in the way.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So you're validating exactly what I said. You are painting some kind of an existential.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I do think it is when you

[Greg Gutfeld]

look at the description, you would vote

[Jessica Tarlov]

for Susan Collins, who likes to hang

[Greg Gutfeld]

her vote for a guy with a Nazi tattoo.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I said, I am. I feel lucky that I am not voting in Maine right now. I think it is a very tough decision. I wish I was in New York 12 and I had a more interesting race to be voting in on the congressional level. Now I'm in Dan Goldman's district. Susan Collins loves to say I'm pro choice. The Dobbs decision, right. Throw it back to the states. We have 13 states alone that have trigger laws in them where if you. You're in six weeks pregnant, you can't get access to reproductive health care. That's something that mortally offends Susan Collins. But yet she votes for Republican nominees to the court who go ahead and put through a decision like the Dobbs decision, which was. That's why, no, it's fine to you. It is not fine to the women who are bleeding out, who cannot get the care that they need. And that, yes, that's what happens. Greg, if you go to an emergency room and you're in the middle of

[Greg Gutfeld]

a million are going to bleed out. If Susan Collins. Do you see the point? Susan Collins wins, millions of women will bleed out. That's what they want you to believe. That's my point.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It is a chance election where people are amped up. Dana already talked about the huge turnout. And if you listen to Platner's speech yesterday, he said a couple of things that I think are really important. I've made mistakes in my life, mistakes that I regret, that I live with and continue to learn from. If you give me the chance, I will be a senator for the people who cannot afford to buy a senator. That's what people are looking for. They want someone in office who they don't think can be bought off. And then about Collins pointing out the 95% voting with Trump. When you listen to Republicans that are going after Graham Platner, they're doing the stuff that Jesse is saying, like I was listening to, and I adore her. You know, Kellyanne, last night, talking about his scandals, cheated on his wife, he lied, insulted heroes. That's Donald Trump.

[Emily Compagno]

No, he did not insult heroes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yes, he.

[Emily Compagno]

That was the hoax. And when you're saying, oh, I'm sorry,

[Jessica Tarlov]

oh, Donald Trump never insulted John McCain.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay, all right, that was a Chris Rock joke. Anyway, the point being that you guys created the rules that you break. You guys created the MeToo movement, you guys created the Nazi hysteria, and now

[Dana Perino]

you're throwing it all away created toxic masculinity. And now they embrace it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, exactly.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, that's what you told us. You said, get some dudes, win an election. We're going to win an election.

[Dana Perino]

Well done.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. You found a great dude. You.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I did not pick the dude.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You're doing a great job of defending him.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, I'm just telling you what's happening on the ground. Jesse said it first.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You didn't yell at him.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't take anything from Jesse seriously.

[Emily Compagno]

All right, guys. Coming up, paying hate to stop hate. The left wing Southern Poverty Law center just got totally obliterated by Congress.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

Please drink responsibly. The CEO of the left wing Southern Poverty Law center facing the wrath of Congress after the DOJ busted his shop for allegedly showering neo Nazis and KKK members with millions and reimbursing them for things like cross burnings. To think Jesse had to pay for his own. The group's leader has no regrets about putting a target on Charlie's back. Your organization has labeled Dr. King and Charlie Kirk and others.

[Jesse Watters]

Do you regret that? Will you recant it?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Or are you going to double down

[Jesse Watters]

and say that these people, including the

[Greg Gutfeld]

martyred Charlie Kirk, in fact, somehow deserve

[Jesse Watters]

to be on your hate list?

[Greg Gutfeld]

The SPLC will continue to expose hate and extremism.

[Jesse Watters]

Okay, we'll take that as the list stands.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Looks like the SPLC just added a new hate group to their list as well. The U.S. government.

[Jesse Watters]

Do you wish you hadn't done the program? You said the program was successful, helpful, but now you're stopping it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We stopped the program because we believe hate and extremism has migrated significantly online and into government agencies. Wow.

[Jesse Watters]

Wow, that's big. That's makes no sense. The chair now recognizes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Wow. You know, Dana, I think what we've learned is that the Dems denounce the hate they create, you know, like Charlottesville or whatever, but accept true hate when it appears like Platner. Makes no sense. They want. They like the fate. They like to drum up fake Nazism, but then they get a real one.

[Dana Perino]

I feel like Jim Jordan at the end there. He was, like, expressing what people watching at home will be like, wait, that doesn't make Any sense. And you're just confused by it. One of the things also that Congress is saying is that DOJ has argued that the SPLC never actually turned over any information to them. But they were using whatever they were gathering in order to one, they were paying those groups, but then they were also using the information to fundraise for themselves. So it was like it was literally a circular firing squad.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Exactly. You know, Jessica, raises the question, how will your friends at the SPLC survive after this? How will they evolve? How can anybody take them seriously? What advice would you give them the next time you had those phone calls?

[Jessica Tarlov]

I am not a crisis comms adviser to the SPLC currently, but I, I don't know why you think that the SPLC is going away. So right now they're in hearings. Right. So there's no legally binding anything out of this. Right. It's a bit of a show for everybody. And everyone gets in their hits as we see with every hearing. And the lawsuit will continue. And we know that this DOJ has gone off after a lot of kind of left wing folks, political enemy types.

[Jesse Watters]

This started the Biden, Justice Department.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah, but that what's going on right now, this level of it, they didn't bring it forward. They weren't.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, they dropped it. Exactly.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, but here's I guess my general question. And Jonah Goose brought up this example. So the SPLC pays informants within these organizations like the kkk, Nazi groups, et cetera, for information and then they turn that information over to government agencies like the FBI. And so he brought up this potential mass terror attack on a Las Vegas synagogue where they gave information to the FBI and it ended up being foiled. It didn't happen. A bunch of people didn't die as a result of the information they give. And that happened under the Trump administration. So the SPLC has worked with administrations of both Democratic and Republican presidents. Is the idea that we should not use informants anymore in this way because you have, you know, the reimbursement for across. They weren't earning whatever they will. They were. I just used an example about it actually.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Technically they're not.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, what. But what is your solution then?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I guess they were already in there. In fact, a couple of the guys wanted to leave and SPLC paid them to stay. That's not an informant.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But if they're giving information to the FBI and then the FBI is foiling a terror attack, is that not being an informant? Is that not a good thing?

[Jesse Watters]

That's not what they were charged with. Well, they're a charity and they defrauded their donors.

[Jessica Tarlov]

But there's no. The law doesn't require you to get a line item.

[Jesse Watters]

Money laundering, bank fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy. Jessica, this is not the CIA. It is a charity. If I give money to a charity, they can't give it to a guy to buy two by fours and kerosene to light a cross. That is crazy. They bought the white hoods for the Klan. They paid the Imperial Wizard. They paid the guy that organized Charlottesville. You can't pay the Klan to publish manifestos and recruit more racists. This is not paying an informant. This is growing the Klan. You can't. It's like say Turning Point was funding antifa. Turning Point was taking money that we thought was going to young conservatives and they were sending it to people to buy. All black and they were busing them to Portland to commit crimes. And then they were raising money off this crazy antifa stuff. I mean, Jessica, can I give you a better example? Permission to make an acknowledging? Let's just say there's a lot of litter and I give to a litter charity, pick up the trash, right? Then they take my money and they give it to litter bugs. And then they trash the park. And then the next year they come knocking on my door. You know what? Hit me up again. We need more cash. Jesse Waters. It's a scam. And they got caught because they have all their bank records.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I want to move on because we're running out of time here. Because I have a really good. One more thing, Emily. Wouldn't the textbook definition of a hate group be an organization that demonizes a person and that person ends up getting killed? That is Charlie Kirk.

[Emily Compagno]

Yes. Especially when the ideology is authentically believed. The whole comparison of this to somehow a law enforcement agency and informant, it is a very weak explanation at best. I mean, it's like your kid getting a sheriff star at Christmas and running out and you saying that that's actually helping law enforce. I mean, these guys. I think what kills me the most about what happened on Congress was the ineffectiveness, the absolute ineffectiveness for Mr. Fer to in any way defend or explain what they've been doing. And that shows the audacity of it and that it's been propped up by the mainstream media. You know, in 2019, this goes to your point, too. All of a sudden, SPLC published an interactive hate map. They wanted everyone to see the landscape of the United States that has increased by 30% in hate. They are screaming from the rooftops that it is an existential crisis. And then they included in those people groups like Prageru. Somehow ministries gaze against groomers. Heaven forbid that someone is against groomers. They are considered a hate group. And it's mind boggling that the New York Times and Washington Post and other universities continue to cite them in published works included as some type of authority of what hate means and of somehow these designations and these labels that get people killed. Rightly so. They also, by the way, vilified explicitly, and you heard a little bit of it, infiltrating the government, citizen journalists. And that goes to show you too, how reliant they are on their propaganda and their mailing lists and the ability of the mainstream media to ensure that they stay in that exalted position because they are demonizing those few handful of people that actually are searching for the truth, that actually go out and say, wait a minute, your money's going back. And wait a minute, you're fomenting, you're manufacturing this. That is who they are now saying are literally white supremacists and Ku Klux. It is such a joke to me. So I hope, though, that we see some accountability for all of those charges and actual, actual indictments and jail time and so much more. And the best thing would be a dissolution of that entire group forever. What?

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right. I just find it great that an SPL staffer shacked up with a neo Nazi when they said screw hate, meant it. Coming up, Seattle's mayor setting up crack shacks for the homeless.

[Dana Perino]

Seattle's democratic Socialist Mayor, Katie Wilson is taking heat after unveiling a fleet of tiny homes for the homeless that some critics are calling Porta potty drug dens. That's because there's no rules stopping the homeless people who move in from doing drugs. And the mayor is not requiring treatment for people who enter.

[Emily Compagno]

Watch Today is about more than a new shelter. It is about creating a place where

[Jennifer Griffin]

people can come inside, find safety and

[Emily Compagno]

stability, connect to services, and begin moving toward permanent housing. The goal here is not simply shelter. It's not simply a roof over someone's head. The goal is to help people successfully move from homelessness towards stability and housing. That's exactly what this site is designed to do.

[Dana Perino]

So, Emily, you're a Seattle person. Denver has tried this and I would say mixed results. Same type of thing where they said, well, if you're, you don't have to get sober, just get off the street, get into one of these things, and then maybe we can get you sober from there. Again, mixed results. What do you think of it in Seattle?

[Emily Compagno]

I think the any success rate or stories is an exception, not the rule. Every one of those tiny shelters costs $16,000. Seattle already pays almost $1 million per homeless person. The homeless population is about 130,000, which compared to the population of Seattle in general. It's actually small, even though it's of course one of the largest in the country. My point is that if you actually cared about data driven getting homeless off the streets, you eliminate the pull factors and that is drug use. So in those tiny homes, there's no requirement to be clean and you share a bathroom. It is just a shelter. It is just an umbrella from the rain. And the homeless already have that with the overpasses. So if she actually cares about transitioning homeless people, it means curbing the drug use. Those people are not for the most part. Again, there's an exception there. People who have fallen on hard times and are just needing a paycheck. They are, if you go to Seattle, molecules of shared drug addicted individuals who have come specifically to those streets because it is a pro drug environment. And everyone that lives in Seattle is paying a million times over with all of their taxes and all of these funds to pay for the idiocy of that incompetent mayor. Because no one will stand up and simply say, you know what? These guys need a punch in the face and no more needles.

[Dana Perino]

What do you think of it, Greg?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, they call them tiny homes, but for you it's a mansion.

[Jesse Watters]

I looked.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's the first time I saw that place. That's a New York City studio.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, it is.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm sorry. You know, many New yorkers would pay 2, 3 grand a month to live in that thing, the village. She calls them transitional shelters. And I think she's right because it's like a pre coffin. But you know what? I think it kind of makes sense because they've made the behavior acceptable. They've even encouraged it by like reviving people who overdose and then giving them more drugs so they overdose again. So you made the villagers, but you didn't have a village. This is zombie storage. I hate it. But it's a better solution than letting them wreak havoc on people on the street. I mean, at least they're not attacking kids. This is basically junkie island, which was my idea a few years ago. And by I think they're only doing this because the World cup is coming. So if World cup wasn't coming, I think they would just let him roam around and die. It's an open air asylum if you keep it away from the public. But I think the big point here, it's going to blow a hole in the myth of affordable housing that all you need is affordable housing, because this is going to get really ugly really fast. Hey, man, if we just have affordable housing for these people, it'll be fine. But. But evidence shows you, and I know this because I live among this every day. When you are a junkie, any housing gets destroyed quickly. There is nobody that says, oh, thank you. I'm going to take care of this. Maybe I'll get some drapes. I'll get a planter. I'll clean, I'll scrub the. No, no, no, no. They. They don't just create a mess. They break the stuff. If there is copper, they will take it and they will sell it. So this is the idea that, like, oh, this will be helpful. No, no, no, no, no. Junkies are vessels of drugs. When you are talking to them, you're not talking to a human anymore. You're talking to the drug. Sorry.

[Dana Perino]

It's true. And Jesse, it's like they have no fear of a failed policy because governing is like a big social experiment that they are continuing from college.

[Jesse Watters]

Well, why experiment? We know what to do. You take them on a bus and you send them to Mexico and then you drop them off. That's what they're doing. They're sending us their people. We should return the favor. I like what Greg said about the coffin. You really are. You're basically. Instead of six feet under, you're basically six feet above the compassion test. We've been reading the Bible with Harold Ford Jr. Yes, do unto others love thy neighbor, blah, blah, blah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

If you really let it sink in,

[Jesse Watters]

I'm really sinking in. If this mayor were a homeless addict, would this be the way she would want to be?

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's a great toilet.

[Jesse Watters]

Would she want to be stuffed in a drug hut and then given free needles? Does she think that's the best way to get her off drugs? Or her son? Would she let her son, who is an addict be in a shed in the backyard and just given meth and then have the neighbors pay for it? In no world would this be acceptable. So that's where I'm thinking. Mexico and beyond.

[Dana Perino]

Jessica, what do you think?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Martha's Vineyard or Martha's Vineyard or Canada?

[Jessica Tarlov]

You can't ship American citizens to another country. Just as a basic, try me. Every day you prove yourself to be more special than the last. I think the lesson from this experiment and also the results of the LA Mayor's race, which were not rigged, is that we are in desperate need of good solutions to our homelessness. Cris that this is something that everybody, no matter how you vote, is concerned about, but they don't want to hear things like ship them to Mexico or what.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, they're tired of your solutions, Angela.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, I have more to say about that.

[Jesse Watters]

Put them in jail. That's what we used to do.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay. There are examples like San Francisco with Dan Lurie, Matt Mahan in San Jose who's cut homelessness a third. And they have done things that have worked, that have put people who are on drugs into treatment plans, gotten people who have fallen on hard times because yes, there are homeless people who are not just drug addled devotees in waiting or whatever you want to call them, Jesse, who need real help. And so I would say I would

[Greg Gutfeld]

never show the stats for that. Well, go ahead.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Matt Mahan talks about his stats all the time.

[Dana Perino]

I wish the around mom Donnie would talk to him because I walked over five of them today on my way to my dance class.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Hey, they're just down on their luck. Paycheck to paycheck.

[Jesse Watters]

I know.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, let me get you a little breaking news. The FOX News alert. U.S. air strikes against Iranian targets have begun. U.S. central Command says forces began launching additional self defense strikes today at 5:15pm Eastern Time against multiple targets in Iran. And it tells me here we are going to take it around the table. Jesse, you had sources saying that this might be happening.

[Jesse Watters]

Well, apparently the Iranians two weeks ago sent us a proposal and that's when Trump was in the Situation Room and everybody wanted it done. But he had two minor things he wanted to amend. So he sends it back and he waits two weeks, two weeks for a response. Meanwhile, in those two weeks they're shooting down helicopters. So unacceptable. I don't think he's going to tolerate this much anymore. So you're going to see a series of aerial strikes tonight and we'll see if that kind of shakes loose some of these negotiations.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, let's get to Jennifer Griffin. Is she ready? Okay, great. Hi Jennifer, can you give us an update?

[Jennifer Griffin]

Yes. Hi, Dana. We have reports, we've just confirmed with U.S. officials that airstrikes have begun against Iranian targets. Iranian state media is reporting that those strikes are being carried out on Kesham Island. We heard those strikes yesterday at about this time the same sort of airstrikes began. Kesham Island, Manab, Syriac. These are all port and coastal areas where the, where the US Was taking out air Defenses and radar systems just yesterday. Right now, we can say that Pete Hegseth, the Defense Secretary, was down at CENTCOM headquarters where he was being briefed by Admiral Brad Cooper this afternoon about potential targets. Earlier in the day, the President indicated in telegraph that the airstrikes were likely to begin again. Tonight, Secretary Hegseth told reporters who were traveling with him that in fact, the US Is willing to negotiate with bombs if need be. Shortly thereafter, the airstrikes began. We can expect to see, I think, over the next few hours, a number of new targets hit inside Iran. Earlier today, Qatari negotiators were sent to Tehran to try and convince Iran's leaders to. To get back to the talks to agree to the terms that the US had been discussing. Those negotiations have been stalled. Now, I think the feeling is that another night of airstrikes may bring the Iranians back to the table. But the last few weeks and since the cease fire have proven to be very frustrating. And there has been, as officials have described to me, less a ceasefire fire and more of a less fire. Earlier today, we know that the US Military also disabled a second oil tanker that was trying to make its way to an Iranian port. This was a Palau flagged ship. It's the second day in a row that they've done so. They've fired using precision munitions into the engineering cabins and the steering section of those oil tankers. We also learned from the President earlier today that over the course of the last few weeks, over 100 million barrels of oil have been escorted through the Strait of Hormuz by U.S. central Command. That had been a secret up until now. Iranians had not been able to see those oil tankers moving through in the cloak of darkness under centcom's watch. So a lot happening right now. We expect another busy night for U.S. central Command. And what was so unusual today and earlier today was hearing both the President as well as Secretary Hegseth telegraphing that these airstrikes were about to begin. I can never remember in the past when the US has said when the bombing was going to begin. So clearly this is designed to pressure the Iranian leaders to get back to the negotiating table. Dana.

[Dana Perino]

All right, did you have anything. Anybody else have a question for her? Let me ask you one more. So when it comes to the last several weeks, or I guess eight weeks, we know obviously we have eyes in the sky. We can see what they're doing. So do you think that these targets are more about taking out some of their remaining military capabilities, or does it go to power plants and bridges as truthed earlier today.

[Jennifer Griffin]

Well, we heard from the president that the next step in the escalation ladder would likely be bridges, electrical plants, infrastructure. It's not clear to me at this point what the targets are. Some of the sites that we've heard that explosions began just a few minutes ago, those are some of the sites where there were radar defenses that were struck last night, radar installations. The reason you would go after those first is so that US Warplanes could get in closer. And so it's surprising that the Iranians, frankly, still have any air defense systems after those first 38 days of bombing by the Israelis and the US military. But it does show just how resilient the Iranians are. And we do know from leaked intelligence reports that have reported broadly in the press that the Iranians were able to keep about half of their ballistic missile supply as well as their mobile missile launchers. And so that's been a great frustration for the US Military and for Israel that many of those mobile missile launchers survive. They retreat back into mountains and then pull them back out also those drone launchers. So I imagine they're going after a lot of those sites and we'll just have to see whether they've expanded that to actual infrastructure.

[Dana Perino]

Right. Jennifer, thank you so much for the quick update and we will keep you posted. The US Is launching more airstrikes in Iran, so we'll keep an eye on all the breaking news. But more of the five is up next.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Next.

[Jesse Watters]

Welcome back.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Good news for all of us firstborns. There are a few of us on the panel. The Washington Post doing a deep dive into how birth order affects your future. And the results of aren't great for the younger sibs, partly because they get less one on one time with the parents. And the elder siblings bring home germs when the younger one's brain and immune systems are still developing. Dana?

[Dana Perino]

Well, I am first born, obviously, but also that comes with a lot of like really tough responsibility. Yeah, I'm kidding. The thing is though, with my younger sister, she was obviously the family favorite. She, I think is like more fun. She is like she has, she's like a happier person. And I think that younger siblings, maybe not the middle like the middle, that's different. But I think younger siblings are actually probably far better off than this suggests.

[Jessica Tarlov]

The pressure of being on the top. Jesse, how has it affected you?

[Jesse Watters]

Well, affected me pretty well.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Look at me, Mom.

[Jesse Watters]

I was always given the best cut of meat. Oh, no, I could always.

[Emily Compagno]

What do you want, bird you don't

[Jesse Watters]

even believe me, do you?

[Dana Perino]

No.

[Jesse Watters]

I actually think my mom loves me more, but my dad loves my sister more.

[Dana Perino]

Definitely.

[Jessica Tarlov]

We got a baby on the panel.

[Emily Compagno]

Yes. I hate everything about this article. It's trash. But I agree with you that youngest children. I am so the youngest. Everything's always going to be fine. Everything's awesome. You're always cared for. I had all my trouble. Totally. Everything is just awesome. And there's not a care in the world like skipping down the street while the firstborn is caring. But I will say that its point about the article's point that somehow we don't have neurological development and not the same time with our parents. Obviously, I massively disagree with. I had great time with my parents. I had every time with my parents. Everything is awesome,

[Jessica Tarlov]

Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I was the youngest of four and I think you get the best of everything as long as you have three older sisters. I had more than a few slumber parties as a child and it's a benchmark of growth as a young boy. As keeps coming to these as you keep these slumber parties show up and how different they are to you. Why do you think I'm so successful? Because I was around women all my life. This is how I became so persuasive and charming, charismatic and compassionate. Also, older siblings are the best for turning you onto music. My musical tastes are impeccable because I had three older siblings who listened to everything and I ended up with. With probably the best taste at Fox.

[Emily Compagno]

Okay,

[Jessica Tarlov]

I will just endorse having two kids now. I understand my sister way better by having Teddy, my younger one. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry that we forgot about you all the time.

[Dana Perino]

Sorry, Angie.

[Jessica Tarlov]

One more thing is up next. I got the Summertime Summertime Sadness. Sunset Summer.

[Emily Compagno]

One more thing, Greg.

[Greg Gutfeld]

All right, tonight we've got cat Timp, Joe DeVito, Brianna Lehman and Tyrus. That's tonight.

[Jesse Watters]

Let's do this. Greg. Sports corner.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Forget the Knicks. Who cares about basketball? The big sports story of the week. King Buzzo of the Melvins making his 10th hole in one. Not his fifth or seventh, but his 10th. King Buzzo not only the lead singer and guitarist of the greatest metal band ever, the Melvins. Not only a great photographer and a great person, he is an amazing golfer. Look at him. And he's still dresses all in black and won't cut that hair.

[Jesse Watters]

That's not one of those fake visors with the fake hair?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Dana Perino]

The kind you're wearing right now.

[Jesse Watters]

Right. All right. So the fireworks are coming. Fourth of July, Macy's, they practice this. They go out to the Mojave Desert and they test these things. They see how far they fly. They see the biggest combustion. I always thought they just winged it, but no, they don't. There's a whole thing of practice that they do tonight. Jesse Waters, PrimeTime. Tommy Lahren, VDH, Chuck DeVore, Abby Hornacek. And apparently we're back at war with Iran.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, well, we have to.

[Jessica Tarlov]

In your hour, potentially.

[Dana Perino]

Okay. There was a sedated bear, but he wasn't the only one taking a tumble. Check this out here.

[Jesse Watters]

Oh.

[Dana Perino]

Cruz used a large tarp to catch the tranquilized bear as it fell from a tree. But the rescue mission took a comedic turn. One police officer toppled over the large animal and into the net as well. Thankfully, the bear was asleep.

[Jessica Tarlov]

After disappearing for six days on Mount Everest, Nepali guide Dawa Sherpa was found. This lucky 56 year old survived off scraps left by other climbers and navigated back towards base camp without any ropes or ladders. He was airlifted to a local hospital, where his family says he remains in stable condition and has some frostbitten fingers, though.

[Greg Gutfeld]

This family is so pissed.

[Emily Compagno]

Totally. One small step for man, one giant leap for luxury fashion. Prada has collaborated with Axiom Space to make a new lunar spacesuit layer. This liquid cooling and ventilation suit is set to be worn during the Artemis 4 mission and moon landing. Targeted for early 2028, this makes Prada the first luxury fashion brand to develop a space garment. Leave it to the Italians.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Awesome.

[Greg Gutfeld]

There are no women on this mission. Yeah, because now, because of the spacesuits, now they don't have to stop to pee.

[Jesse Watters]

How do you pee in space?

[Dana Perino]

Well, you know, like a flap. Why don't we send you up there?

[Jesse Watters]

We're not the first person who wants to send me up to space.

[Dana Perino]

Do you want to wear a diaper?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I thought you never asked.

[Jesse Watters]

I'm only 48.

[Emily Compagno]

That's it for us. Have a great night.

[Jesse Watters]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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