Emily Campagno (3:30)

So she's their OJ Basically.

Jesse Watters (3:33)

All right?

Katie Pavlich (3:34)

And she might have been innocent.

Greg Gutfeld (3:36)

Or that, too.

Katie Pavlich (3:37)

She might have been innocent.

Jesse Watters (3:38)

And Gutfeld will have the whole hour tonight on the Karen Ree trial.

Katie Pavlich (3:41)

So stay tuned live.

Jesse Watters (3:44)

Thank you, guys. But let's talk about the big story we're following here. President Trump still mulling a US Military strike on Iran's nuclear sites, but teased he's opened a meeting with the mullahs at the White House.

Donald Trump (3:57)

Plan for everything, but we'll see what happens. Got a ways to go. They should have. Look, they should have made the deal. I had a great deal for them. They decided not to do it, and now they wish they did it and they want to meet. But it's, you know, it's late to me. I don't want to get involved either. But I've been saying for 20 years, maybe longer, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. I've been saying it for a long time. You may have to fight, and maybe it'll end and maybe it'll end very quickly. But there's no way that you can allow, whether you have to fight or not, you can allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon because the entire world will blow up. I'm not going to let that happen.

Jesse Watters (4:34)

Katie, have you ever seen a president keep his options so open for so long?

Harold Ford Jr. (4:41)

He is keeping options open, but the one thing he's made very clear throughout all of this is that the Iranian nuclear program is going away. It is not staying. He said today that it's going to either go away by US Bombing it when they surrender or bombing it if they don't surrender. So this program is going away. It's just a matter of how they decide to do this. The timeline is that the Israelis say if the US Were to get involved with the bombing campaign, they could be done with this in a week, which the president has said. He wants things to be done quickly. He doesn't want these things to drag out. He's consistent with that. He has a track record in his first term of doing these strikes that are very significant, targeted and getting out of the way. Soleimani, he did this with the Houthis, he did this with isis. There's no reason to stick around and wait it out. So he is in another meeting today with his national security team, and all options are on the table. But if you listen to what he's saying, it's very clear that this is going in the direction of Iran's nuclear program, is going away for the better of the United States of America and for the region. I think it's very interesting that you've heard a lot about. Well, we don't want this to devolve into a broader war in the region. The region's not saying anything. The Saudis are happy with this. The Jordanians are happy with this. The UAE is happy with this. And if you look at the images that you see of these people sending in video from Lebanon, from Jordan, from uae, seeing these missiles flying through the sky, the only people sending those are the Iranians, and they don't want them to be the target next. So the program's going away. It's just a matter of when and how.

Jesse Watters (6:11)

Harold, does the president have the support of the Democrats in the Senate and in Congress for a strike against this nuclear facility?

Katie Pavlich (6:20)

I hope so. But let me dial back, because I think your question is the right one. I would broaden it out, I think, to Katie's point. It's good to be back around the table with everybody. I think the question that the president, who's grappling with the most consequential decision that he's ever had to make, I think in his life, certainly as president the first term and certainly up to this point, and I can't imagine a more consequential one for the next three years. I think the president's asking the question, what if we don't act in light of all that the Israelis have done in really softening and diminishing the military power, the Air Force, the Navy, the army, their ability to launch rockets at Israel and for that matter, anywhere in the region? And they've done. They've done a lot. The president took an oath of office, everyone does, to protect and defend the Constitution and the country Regardless of whom the President is, not your campaign dogma, not your campaign platform, not your rally speeches. And this is where it gets really tough. Two, I hope the President's applying the Powell Doctrine to this. Jesse, which former the late Secretary of Defense and late Joint Chiefs of Staff asks a couple of questions. He asks, do we have a vital security interest? We do. They say debt to America. Do we have a clear attainable objective? Katie laid it out. Well, I think the President has laid it out. We want to undermine and neutralize this nuclear capacity of theirs and their ability to launch missiles. Three, do we have an exit strategy and have we considered the consequences of what may happen? I'm confident the President and his team are doing that. And this gets to the last point. Are the American people in support, which is what your question is, contemplates, not just Democrats? It appears as we sit here tonight, the President's facing more opposition from Republicans and perhaps some in the MAGA community than he is anywhere else. I hope if the President decides to do something, whatever that might be, and I support him, that he comes before the country at the appropriate time and lays out for us why he's doing it, what we're doing and how we're going to get, how we're going to get out of it. And finally, the Israelis have done a lot. If they had not done all they had done, have done up to this point, I may not be as in favor of, of going after the nuclear facility as I am. What they've done over the last year, particularly the last six months, has been nothing short of astonishing. So whatever the President decides to do, I hope the country supports him. But he's going to have to lay out clearly, convincingly and forcefully why we're doing it.

Jesse Watters (8:39)

Do you believe, Emily, the President's done a good job explaining to the American people the stakes.

Greg Gutfeld (8:44)

Well, I think he's done a good job explaining to the American people that he's protecting American interests and he's staying true to why we voted for him, which was peace through strength with the end result of including not ditching our allies and always holding American interests first. And that's why, you know, to those saying that it's not America first to not even take out Ford. Look, number one, it removes a direct time sensitive threat to the U.S. it's a hell of a lot cheaper than the trickle, you know, sort of policy that Biden had. Oh, here's a little bit of material support over years and years or the wait and see approach of him. The Dems which includes, this includes, by the way, the priceless toll of the 603Americans that have died at the hands of the Islamic regime. And for those worried about mission creep, that's this, that's what this would stop, right? This is strength without spread. And the biggest result is deterrence. Mess with a bull, you get the horns. That's what message he's been clear on and that's why people voted for him. And side note, I have many friends in Tel Aviv right now, Katie, I know you do too. One of them, a missile hit the building 80ft away from his apartment while he was in the shelter. It destroyed the entire block somehow. His apartment was okay cuz it was protected by. He said, we're experiencing what we've never experienced before. But he said, but it's necessary to finish the job and destroy the nuclear facilities in Iran. That is someone that understands the message, understands patriotism, and understands an existential crisis that they're facing.

Jesse Watters (10:07)

How do you see it, Greg?

Emily Campagno (10:09)

Many different ways, Jesse. I'm glad you asked. First of all, I'm always surprised that people that are so against trade wars are more open to real wars. Is that, don't you find that kind of like a.

Jesse Watters (10:22)

They do.

Emily Campagno (10:23)

Like the people that are against trade wars, they always talk about the blowback of a trade war. We talk about it forever. But with real wars, we don't, we don't even know what's next after we decide to do this. And we often don't. That's why we ended up with Iraq and Afghanistan. There is a lot of blowback. At least with trade wars you can turn off the spigot. You can go back in time and stop it about the America first thing. That was why Trump was elected. But it's not like he isn't being America first already. It's like been 150 days, we've seen, look at the border. No crossings, no releases, workers rages, workers wages are up, pared down, regulations increased, industry redefining, military readiness and priorities. So he didn't just walk in and say, you know what I'm going to do first? Bomb the goats out of Iran. So the idea, this is what bugs me about the, about the people that are screaming about Trump being hawkish. The idea that he somehow fell under the spell of Lindsey Graham. It's divorced from context. The guy is doing America first every single day. So maybe this might not be a contradiction in his mind. It might logically make sense in the Trump universe. But that's only if Iran is a True threat. And that's where the question is. In a way, Iran is like an unstable teenager who posts online about wanting to shoot up a school. You know, when do you take their threats and capabilities seriously? Like, you know, do you know what his capabilities are? Does this kid have guns at home? We don't know. So you have to weigh the cost is like what Harold said, that the cost of inaction is an action. It's an action. So America first has two lanes. America first and what are the options in the Middle east that are best for American interests? So they kind of cross. And then going back to what you said when you asked Katie, we elected Trump for his instincts and his guts, his gut instinct. And, you know, maybe he knows a way to defend our staunchest ally without sacrificing our sons. And he doesn't do things that he thinks will end badly. That's one thing we know. He jumps in when he sees a path and he senses, I think he senses Israel has done the work. And I think that's another thing that he respects Israel for, is that they always do the work. He likes winners, and I think he sees this event, Israel, as a winning bet.

Jesse Watters (12:58)

I think you're right.

Katie Pavlich (12:59)

But in fairness, I think you're right. Without Israel having done all the work up to this point, I think a lot of people would not be as open minded to this. And remember, they support Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. They have done. It's not just a kid at home putting stuff up on social media. They have done not only on social media, they've acted on some of it through their proxies.

Emily Campagno (13:18)

So, yeah, no, it was a rough analogy, Harold. It wasn't the real thing.

Jesse Watters (13:22)

Don't nitpick the analogy.

Emily Campagno (13:23)

My goodness.

Jesse Watters (13:24)

Come on.

Emily Campagno (13:25)

I'm done here.

Katie Pavlich (13:25)

Let me write that down.

Emily Campagno (13:26)

I have things to do and you.

Harold Ford Jr. (13:27)

Can argue, you can take Israel completely out of it and it's about U.S. interests.

Emily Campagno (13:31)

I want to make an analogy about.

Katie Pavlich (13:32)

King, which I think it is.

Jesse Watters (13:33)

And Greg will have Karen Reid the whole hour again, no commercials.

Emily Campagno (13:35)

The whole don't go driving with her.

Jesse Watters (13:39)

Arnold stuns the ladies of the View after terminating anti ice talking points.

Harold Ford Jr. (13:55)

When it comes to my daily heart.

Jesse Watters (13:56)

Health, what is dedication?

H (13:57)

The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariana. We call him day date for short. Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge, and there's this huge responsibility in making, making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together. We did a good job.

Harold Ford Jr. (14:18)

That's dedication.

Jesse Watters (14:19)

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Greg Gutfeld (14:32)

Anti ice agitators who've been burning waymos. You're about to get terminated. Arnold Schwarzenegger not taking the bait on the View after Joy Behar and the ladies tried to get him to endorse the anti ICE insanity that's been sweeping liberal cities.

Katie Pavlich (14:47)

Watch.

Emily Campagno (14:48)

As an immigrant yourself, you are an immigrant. You're an immigrant in this country. Did you have a visceral reaction to.

Greg Gutfeld (14:55)

What they're doing, what ICE is doing.

Emily Campagno (14:56)

When you see the videos of it?

I (14:58)

I'm so, so happy to see firsthand that this is the greatest country in the world and this is the land of opportunity. But the key thing also is at the same time that we got to do things legal. That is the important thing. When you come to America, you're a guest and you have to behave like a guest. You have a responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America.

Greg Gutfeld (15:23)

Greg, you know what I loved about that? This is like lib kryptonite, which is when you talk about a lived experience plus common sense.

Emily Campagno (15:29)

Well, let's be. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

Greg Gutfeld (15:31)

No, I'm done.

Emily Campagno (15:32)

Good. Let's be honest. The only reason why Arnold went on the View was to look skinny now. But he is voicing the damage that the liberals embrace of illegal immigration has done to legal immigration. How does it feel to have waited in line to get into Disneyland when everybody else just jumped the fence, got it for free and they're peeing in the teacups. Cuz that's what he's talking about. If I hear another hack say we're a nation of immigrants during this process, I'm going to deport their ass with my foot. You can't say that while you're destroying the process of legal immigration. If you believe that immigration is the foundation of this country, then you should protect the process with all your might. That's what. Because what you're seeing right now is the consequence of letting that go away. The biggest harm the Democrats have done is they contaminated the system by defying the system. You've heard the phrase this is why you can't have nice things. Think about so many nice things that we can't have because of liberalism. One of them is legal immigration, cuz it destroyed that. But think about women's sports, those. That was nice For a while. Peaceful protests. That was nice. Can't have that anymore. Safety nets. Safety nuts. Safety nets. You know, for people that needed it. They exploited that. Look at our entertainment when it went.

Katie Pavlich (16:55)

Woke up.

Emily Campagno (16:56)

Look at religion. They put folk guitar in Catholic mass. Worst thing that could ever happen. Our politics is destroyed. Our comedy got destroyed. Now I'm rebuilding it. Thank you. Sanctuary cities were the poison pill that killed legal immigration. We're dealing with it now.

Greg Gutfeld (17:12)

Safety nuts are my favorite.

Emily Campagno (17:13)

Safety nuts.

Greg Gutfeld (17:14)

All right, Jesse. Here's what I loved about it also, is that it's a perfect illustration of what happens when you try to debate or just have a conversation with a lib, which is that they interrupt you. So the person, the thing to his right kept verbally interrupting, and the one to his left kept touching him, which, by the way, if you touch me, I will punch you. So that they couldn't even let him get his answer out before trying to jump in and just wipe it away.

Jesse Watters (17:38)

You're having a great show already. I love what you're putting out there. Arnold was right. So an illegal immigrant is like an uninvited guest at a party, right? So you say you're having a party, and people who weren't invited show up to the party. As long as they're hanging out, having a good time, not messing with anybody, they can stay. And that's pretty much the American policy towards illegal aliens. But if you roll up to the party and crash into the pillar and then just roofie the bartender and then slap the host in the face, you're going to call the cops right away. Democrats are like the people at the party that, like, hide this guy in the basement, and then when the cops show up, they fight the cops. Now, Democrats would never do that in their own lives. There's such a wide gap between the way Democrats behave in their personal life and the way they behave in their public life. Democrats in their private lives don't harbor fugitives. They don't yell Gestapo at police officers. They don't do any of that stuff. But for some reason, in their public life, they're animals. It's like I can't never even say anything. Let's just say Joy Behar invites me over for cocktails in hors d' oeuvres.

Greg Gutfeld (18:52)

Okay?

Jesse Watters (18:53)

I go over to the house civilized. We're having a great time. If a fire starts, she doesn't say, no, no, no, no. We're just gonna let it burn. You should call someone immediately. And we put out the fire. I'm sure when she Found out Waters was coming over for hors d' oeuvres. She went shopping. So she's in line at the grocery store. 12 people cut joy in line at the grocery store, and she doesn't say anything. She's going to yell, hey, get the hell back in line. I've been waiting here. So Democrats, the only other people they're like, are like actors, because actors, their private life and their public life, completely different. They'll go on set, act like a totally different person, leave the set, they're back to themselves. Same thing with Democrats. They're just performers. That's all they're doing. Wow.

Greg Gutfeld (19:39)

And bad at it. Harold here's the other thing that was a perfect contrast between the current toxic, ineffective, inept governor of California and the prior one that actually had common sense. I say this as a Californian because my and you, too, because our state went to ruin under Gavin Newsom.

Katie Pavlich (19:57)

So I think Arnold Schwarzenegger is like, and I like him, is like a lot of foreigners and immigrants who come to our country who love the freedom and opportunity that our country offers. He came with a great work ethic, a lot of grit, obviously, a lot of talent that he continued to harness while he was here. And he was offered a path to citizenship to both of you all's points that he pursued. And thankfully, he met all the requirements. And we're better off for him. Our country is better off for him for having him in our country and having him as an American. I hope at some point we do two things again, because when he came, Emily, the path to citizenship was far more defined than it is today. We've not reformed this process in a really long time, not since Ronald Reagan was president. And I hope we reform it again so we can ensure we get the very best like him coming to our country, and we find ways to export the very worst. Because there's no question, over the last few years, we've had an influx of people, some who should be on the path to citizenship and many, many whom should not. I happen to allocate a little responsibility to, because I served in Congress, Republicans and Democrats alike were responsible for not addressing this. But I don't at all don't own up to the fact that over the last four years under the past president, we had an enormous influx of people who should not have been here, who should not have been here. And I'm hopeful that President Trump and his and Mr. Homan will continue down the path of kicking out the worst first.

Harold Ford Jr. (21:29)

Katie I just love that Joyce starts with the assumption, oh, you're an immigrant, Right. So you totally agree with what we're saying about this issue, which, of course is her longstanding position, which is one that Democrats have had, which is the conflation and a disrespect between immigration legally and illegal immigration. And for someone like him to sit there and listen and assume that he agrees with her on this. When you're watching riots breaking out all over the place, where you're watching foreign flags being, you know, flown around as cars are burning, I mean, how offensive would it be if you're someone who came here legally and you're assuming that you're all in the same boat, legal immigrants come here and have for many, many years, since the beginning of the country, really, and said, what can I do to make this country better? How can I be worthy of the people who came before me? How can I be a positive and adding to what we can do for the future? And if I have children or grandchildren, what can they then do to help their country? Illegal immigrants come here and the first thing they do is break the law. It is illegal to come here. It's legal to come over here without permission. And then they come in and they want benefits. They want you as a legal immigrant or as a citizen, to pay for their health care, to pay for their housing, to get put up in a hotel room in New York, to get a. And the list goes on and on. And so there has always been a difference between legal and illegal immigration. And the left has purposely conflated them for the sake of trying to call the right bigots for daring to want some kind of system where things are in order and they are in favor of people who follow the law and want to be a positive for the country, not a drag by forcing citizens to deal with the issues that come with legal immigration, whether it's crime or costs in terms of local budgets. That's right.

Greg Gutfeld (23:15)

Go ahead.

Emily Campagno (23:16)

Did you know what Arnold said when he left the View?

Greg Gutfeld (23:19)

What?

Katie Pavlich (23:20)

I won't be back.

Greg Gutfeld (23:23)

Up next, the video that will trigger lives everywhere. Wait for it. Take me home tonight. I don't wanna let you go to single night.

Emily Campagno (23:37)

Take me.

Harold Ford Jr. (23:46)

Well, we may need to do a wellness check on TDS Democrats today because patriotism was on full display at the White House. President Trump raising two new magnificent flag poles on the lawn as a personal gift to the nation.

Donald Trump (24:00)

We're going to put up a beautiful flag pole and we're going to put up a flag. Somewhere in this group is somebody that is going to captivate Some movie producer. Not Harvey Weinstein. Let's have a good. They call it a lifting. They also use another word, but I'm not going to use that word. You know what that is? The word. It starts with an E. You know what the word is? If I ever used it, I'd be run out of town. Any illegal immigrants in here now? If they were, they'll find out. They'll be checking you. You won't believe your whole life will be destroyed because of this press conference. I was the hunted and now I'm the hunter.

Harold Ford Jr. (24:38)

All right. We wonder what the E word is too, but we're not going to say it today, at least not yet. Central Democrats claim they'd like to take back patriotism from the Republicans. And the media is more than happy to sell that fiction. Check out this Washington Post headline. These centrist women on a group chat are leading Democrats in 2025, spotlighting Democrats like Abigail Spanberger, Mickey Sheryl and Eliza Slotkin. But the piece conveniently forgets to mention any actual policy positions. All right, Greg Awfuls for the next election. What do you think?

Emily Campagno (25:11)

Well, you know what? Here's the deal. I read that article and there was no word. It was about centrism. There was no word on what made them a centrist. So I propose a basic litmus test for them. Define a woman. And it's three words. Can't get erection. I had to work that in that. I mean that. That one issue should be the line in the sand. This, this rise of this trans delusion wasn't just simply caused by a small group of depraved men. It was about passive females who, in the interest of passing as virtuous progressives, let the deviants into safe spaces for women. Whether it's bathrooms or locker rooms or prisons. Liberal women stabbed all women in the back. That's what makes you a centrist, is rejecting that. As long as Democrat females defend this bizarre chapter of destructive do goodism, they can't be defined as a centrist. Boys are boys, girls are girls. The betrayal of that basic principle means that all of your other decisions are pointless. You can't talk about defending a country or an economy or immigration or crime if you deny basic biology. That that wasn't in the. I think that, that that was not in that article for a reason.

Harold Ford Jr. (26:32)

Yeah, well, also trying to say, look at these women. So, Harold, is. Is the big problem with the Democrats. They just don't have enough white woke women running for office.

Katie Pavlich (26:42)

No, I. I think you're onto something. I think that as usual, exclamation point laid this out. Well, I think I've said all along I think this is a good start. When you're putting new faces and new voices out for the party and you've got the gumaturo nominee in New Jersey is one of them. You've got a sitting United States senator and a congresswoman, I believe, who's running, I believe maybe running for governor there in Virginia. Forgive me if I have maybe that fact wrong, but I think, I think I would do what Greg said. I would define it like this. We are for peace and prosperity. If that means exercising strength to achieve peace, we're for prosperity because we want to cut taxes on middle class Americans. We're willing to raise it on people who earn 10 million or more to ensure that we don't cut Medicaid for those who are working in this country. And we are against things that are unfair and unsafe. One of the things that's unfair and unsafe is letting little boys playing little girls sports and I believe it's unsafe. And we are for safe borders, Democrats. Greg's right. Get to what we're for. You lay some, lay out a very simple, understandable, digestible message as to what we're for and let that be the starting points. Baby steps.

Harold Ford Jr. (27:48)

Well, Abigail Spamberger is running for governor, Jesse, in the state of Virginia. And she is four little boys playing in girls sports and four men being in women's locker rooms and for Medicaid actually, you know, funding trans surgeries, mutilation surgeries for children. So she's not exactly a centrist, I would say.

Emily Campagno (28:06)

Brands Burger.

Jesse Watters (28:10)

Have you guys noticed that Harold's giving campaign speeches?

Emily Campagno (28:12)

Yes.

Harold Ford Jr. (28:12)

You guys always do this.

Jesse Watters (28:14)

He's looking directly in the camera and he sounds like a politician.

Katie Pavlich (28:17)

I do exactly what you do. You tell me a fun time. That's what you do.

Jesse Watters (28:20)

Waiting to see at the end of his commentary, paid for by Harold Jr.

Katie Pavlich (28:24)

For President, Jesse Waters, treasurer.

Jesse Watters (28:27)

Now you're onto something. So I don't want to talk about women, I want to talk about the poll. This president has done major renovations, Katie. He's not only put in a flagpole, he's putting in a ballroom and he's putting a golf simulator in the residence. Now, I did a deep dive on White House renovations. You know what Biden did? He only did one renovation.

Emily Campagno (28:47)

A nap room chairlift.

Jesse Watters (28:51)

I'm going to need one eventually. He doubled the size of the White House fence. The one guy who like blew out the border doubled the size from 6 to 12ft.

Katie Pavlich (29:02)

Him first.

Jesse Watters (29:03)

Barack Obama. You know what Barack Obama did to the White House? He put in a garden. Well, his wife put in the garden. He put solar panels on the roof and then he took the White House tennis court and put basketball on the side and then he put a Muslim prayer room in there.

Donald Trump (29:20)

What?

Harold Ford Jr. (29:20)

Is that true?

Katie Pavlich (29:21)

No. Are you serious? I was with you on the basketball.

Harold Ford Jr. (29:26)

Well, Emily, these improvements are Democrats. I don't know. Solar panels in a place where it rains all the time. A fence that is still letting kids through into the White House lawn where the Secret Service agents are like, oh gosh, there's a child here. I don't know. What do you think?

Greg Gutfeld (29:40)

Well, look, you talked about new faces and new voices and not that I am a Democrat or a hog, but David Hogg was totally right when he said we need to primary out these old entrenched incumbent people and also those radical far leftists. So look at Ilhan Omar this week that said we need to reject what's taking place this week. She said this is the worst country in the world. That's a congressperson right now representing your party. Says the person, you've got a few.

Katie Pavlich (30:04)

Two now you got a few two on your side.

Greg Gutfeld (30:06)

Says the person that literally fled civil war in the least stable country in the world, the least peaceful country in the world as rated by the global index. The only people fleeing the United States are Rosie o' Donnell and illegal immigrant criminals. Right. And this person has the gall to compare the two. So that's what's in line right now. That's what that has shaped this party this entire time. So whatever new fresh voices are trying to just sort of focus on the locker room, they need to understand that the real destructive voices are still there too. And we're paying their salaries.

Harold Ford Jr. (30:38)

Yes, indeed. All right, up next, the first major hearing into Joe Biden's decline kicking off in Congress. And Joe and Hunter wander onto a TV show set.

Donald Trump (30:58)

The Golden Age of America.

Emily Campagno (31:06)

Dems boycotting the first public hearing into the COVID up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline. Dick, Peter and Chuck all protesting.

Donald Trump (31:16)

Apparently armchair diagnosing former President Biden is.

Jesse Watters (31:20)

More important than the issues of grave concern which I have mentioned. I'm going to tell you what I think is a cover up. I think this big beautiful bill done.

Emily Campagno (31:30)

By reconciliation, this has nothing to do with, with cutting Medicaid costs, cutting Medicaid help, helping clean energy, keeping hungry kids fed. It's one of their many circus like diversions. Speaking of the big guy, Joe and Hunter Biden accidentally stumbled onto the Reacher set while the series was filming in Philadelphia. Apparently, they were visiting the area to get breakfast. That's what Hunter calls crack.

Katie Pavlich (32:02)

Hey.

Emily Campagno (32:03)

So, Jesse, apparently when Joe Biden showed up at the Reacher set, the director mistakenly thought he was the actor cast to play a corpse.

Jesse Watters (32:13)

A walking corpse.

Emily Campagno (32:14)

They actually drew chalk around Joe when he was napping.

Jesse Watters (32:17)

Very good. Well, and then Hunter sniffed the chalk.

Katie Pavlich (32:20)

Yes.

Jesse Watters (32:22)

You don't just wander on to a Reacher set in the middle of Rittenhouse Square in Philadelphia. This is obviously a setup. This guy Reacher. I don't know his real name. Hardcore leftists. So this was obviously an invite. And they got their photos, and that's fine. But the Democrats are saying this hearing is a diversion. Okay? They did hearings on January 6 for two years while the country fell apart. Okay? This is the biggest cover up in political history and it needs some scrutiny. I want to know who signed the papers to open the border. I want to know who signed the papers to fly all these migrants in the dead of night to New York. Remember those flights? Those secret flights? Or how about the directive to tell all the ICE agents just sit inside for three years and twiddle their thumbs? Who told them to do that? Who told them that it was okay to take a migrant teen and just put them with a sponsor? What kind of person wants to sponsor a migrant teen that doesn't speak English? I'll tell you. A pedophile. Okay, how is that not written down somewhere? It's all written down. And if Biden directed all these things to happen, it should be a piece of paper that they can show and say, okay here. Then the scandal's over. They don't have it.

Emily Campagno (33:32)

You know, Harold, that guy makes a good point. If the Democrats don't face the music they're running from this hearing, how can the American public ever trust them again? They have to face the music.

Katie Pavlich (33:44)

So I differ slightly here. I think that elections are the things that decide.

Emily Campagno (33:49)

This is a huge scandal.

Katie Pavlich (33:52)

I don't disagree. I think that he will have the COVID up. President Biden and his family and his senior advisors will have to live with this. But the way we correct these things is through elections. The country decided they didn't want Joe Biden. They didn't want Kamala Harris, because they didn't believe that we managed things well enough. But I will say this. They have every right to do it. And I do hope that. Mr. Colmer, I've got a few other recommendations. I want to know who killed Biggie and Tupac. And I want a hearing on Bigfoot. I mean, if we're gonna go down this path, let's go down this path. And then Loch Ness monster thing. My daughter wants to know an answer to. So if you got some time, let's.

Jesse Watters (34:24)

Do that triangle, too. Don't forget about.

Emily Campagno (34:27)

You're not gonna like the answer about Biggie. It was Brit Hume.

Harold Ford Jr. (34:31)

I thought it was Shannon.

Emily Campagno (34:32)

Brittany.

Katie Pavlich (34:33)

Emily. Emily.

Emily Campagno (34:35)

Chuck Schumer says the Dems are too busy cause they're feeding hungry children to Jerry Nadler.

Jesse Watters (34:41)

Oh, my gosh.

Greg Gutfeld (34:44)

I respectfully, Harold, I felt like your answer was exactly this superficial shout. No, his words not vapid. Nope. It was what I learned from my sister with her children, my nieces, which is distract and redirect. Right. And that's the whole thing that the Dems are deploying here.

Katie Pavlich (35:01)

We lost the election. What do you want? What more do you want from us? We suck.

Greg Gutfeld (35:04)

That's the point being on the election. It's what you do with unruly children. But it won't work with the American people because we will demand that accountability and those answers. So they're saying nothing to see here. We're gonna do like we did. We're not gonna buy it.

Emily Campagno (35:16)

Last word to you, Katie.

Harold Ford Jr. (35:18)

Well, I think they should tell Joe he doesn't have to wear a suit anymore. He's not the president. You can, like, relax, not have the tie on. But if Democrats want to move past this with their own party, they're going to have to face the music, as you say. Because a big reason why they couldn't even grapple with winning last year is because they had to kick their candidate off of the campaign trail with three months to go. So they're going to have to fix this. The Democrats suck. In Harold's words, the song is over.

Katie Pavlich (35:44)

The concert's over.

Harold Ford Jr. (35:45)

It's not over.

Emily Campagno (35:46)

You want it to be over.

Harold Ford Jr. (35:47)

The encore is on.

Emily Campagno (35:48)

The music is still playing.

Harold Ford Jr. (35:50)

Encore is happening. And it's not a good one.

Emily Campagno (35:52)

Yeah, that was not a spontaneous visit, Biggie. There's nothing spontaneous about Joe Biden. Bass is up next.

Jesse Watters (36:03)

I got.

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Good news for working families.

Katie Pavlich (36:15)

Welcome back. Gen Z is bringing back the double dates. Tinder's allowing users to match in pairs and plan a double date for their first meetup. Jesse, is this something. If you were in the dating scene that you think you would be wanting to do, or for that matter, you're married, Would you go on a date with me and my wife? You and your wife? Two questions there.

Jesse Watters (36:34)

We keep trying to work something out with you, Harold.

Katie Pavlich (36:36)

But, I mean, you have too many jobs.

Jesse Watters (36:38)

Dude, I have a lot of shows. But Harold wants me to take a day off from work so I could go to dinner with him and his wife.

Katie Pavlich (36:45)

I mean, and your wife. We would prefer your wife.

Jesse Watters (36:49)

Oh, I thought it was just like a Minaj thing.

Katie Pavlich (36:51)

So, exclamation point. What are your thoughts about this? He couldn't help himself.

Emily Campagno (36:54)

I know, I know.

Katie Pavlich (36:55)

You know what?

Emily Campagno (36:56)

Double dates are a disaster. Here's why. The odds of all four people getting along is rare. You might be pals with the guy, but your girlfriend hates his girlfriend. Where's your buddy? This is the worst thing about a double date. Your buddy tells a story or a secret in front of your girlfriend that she should know. Like, remember that time when you told Ellen that you were going to. You said you were going to a funeral and we went and played golf. You don't want that to happen. And what if they're swingers? You don't want that. Or drinkers. It's just best to sit at home and eat in front of a mirror like I do.

Katie Pavlich (37:31)

Emily, your thoughts about eating in front of a mirror?

Greg Gutfeld (37:33)

No, I haven't tried that yet. You guys double dates? Exact opposite opinion. They are fantastic. Here's why. Number one, they're training reels, obviously. Number two, you are not alone with someone that will probably murder and dismember you like so many weird Tinder and dating apps and all the things. But here's what I hate.

Emily Campagno (37:49)

I watch too much Forensic Files.

Greg Gutfeld (37:50)

No, you have to do it right. Which means no cross conversation. You know what I.

Jesse Watters (37:54)

Wait, what does that mean?

Emily Campagno (37:54)

Here's what. Don't talk about. Jesus.

Greg Gutfeld (37:56)

No. When you're sitting and it's you and your spouse and then the two girls have to talk and the two guy. I hate that.

Jesse Watters (38:01)

No, that's great.

Greg Gutfeld (38:02)

One conversation.

Jesse Watters (38:03)

That's what usually happens. Emily, you're saying the guy is gonna to the other guy's wife and then you're going to talk to the other guy's husband.

Greg Gutfeld (38:11)

One conversation.

Jesse Watters (38:13)

The women talk to the women, the guys talk to guys, and then everybody.

Emily Campagno (38:16)

Has a few drinks. Perfect. Double date is when the guys don't show up.

Katie Pavlich (38:20)

No, Katie, give us.

Greg Gutfeld (38:21)

Give us 20 seconds on this.

Harold Ford Jr. (38:24)

Very strict rules about this. I like double dates. However, the rules are they can only be with people who are serious. Because you never want to waste your time going to dinner with someone's girlfriend or boyfriend. And they're gone. Like tomorrow. Yeah, they got to be there for three months at least. And they have to be serious because I am sick of going to dinner with people who are not on par.

Greg Gutfeld (38:45)

No rings are the rules. Love.

Jesse Watters (38:47)

Going on double dates with gay couples.

Emily Campagno (38:54)

Is it a double date if it's a. If it's just a Siamese twin.

Katie Pavlich (38:58)

Gen Z is bringing back double. It's a good thing when they get out and they're talking. We need more of it. One More thing. One More thing is up next. When I was diagnosed with.

Jesse Watters (39:20)

It's time to have one more thing. Greg.

Emily Campagno (39:21)

Oh, tonight we got a great show. Michelle Toyo, Michael Loftus, Cat, Tiffan, tyrus. That's tonight.

Jesse Watters (39:25)

JPM watch, Jesse Waters prime time. Trump's attack plans, 8pm Eastern watch. Harold.

Katie Pavlich (39:32)

Steve Carell gave a commencement address Northwestern University. He said he preached kindness and then he danced. Watch a little video here. He got everybody dance.

Emily Campagno (39:39)

We sped up for this.

Katie Pavlich (39:40)

Here we go. I said it, not do it.

Jesse Watters (39:42)

Here we go.

Harold Ford Jr. (39:43)

Keep it. Keep it.

Emily Campagno (39:45)

There you go.

Katie Pavlich (39:46)

Congrats to Northwestern.

Harold Ford Jr. (39:47)

All right.

Greg Gutfeld (39:48)

And I had to guess the animal sound. Jerk.

Katie Pavlich (39:50)

Kitty.

Harold Ford Jr. (39:51)

Okay. An 80 year old Florida man just held a plank for 50 minutes. Bob Schwartz, nicknamed the Plankster, crushed the record holding it 100 times longer than the average recommendation for his age. Bob says he didn't step a foot in the gym until he was 62, proving it's never too late to start. Great job, Bob.

Emily Campagno (40:07)

Still got the wood.

Harold Ford Jr. (40:09)

Okay.

Katie Pavlich (40:09)

Oh, God.

Jesse Watters (40:10)

The E word.

Greg Gutfeld (40:12)

This is karma. The doberman giving a positively perfect singing performance as her owner plays the piano. And you guys know dobermans are the best breed ever.

Emily Campagno (40:21)

Really?

Greg Gutfeld (40:22)

Yes.

Emily Campagno (40:22)

Are they really?

Greg Gutfeld (40:23)

Yes, they are. I will fight you on that.

Jesse Watters (40:26)

Amazing that we can get through five of those things in a minute.

Emily Campagno (40:29)

Yeah.

Jesse Watters (40:30)

What's changed?

Harold Ford Jr. (40:31)

Lightning round.

Katie Pavlich (40:34)

Beverly Hills Cop.

Jesse Watters (40:36)

Don't watch this.

Greg Gutfeld (40:37)

I'm Dana Perino. This week on Perino on Politics, I'm joined by the senior Vice President of CRC Advisors, Matt Whitlock.

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