Trump: Greenland Deal Would Be “Infinite

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five

Episode: Trump: Greenland Deal Would Be “Infinite”
Date: January 21, 2026
Host: Jesse Watters, with Emily Compagno, Harold Ford Jr., Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld
Main Theme: Discussion and debate over President Trump’s reported framework for a future deal with Greenland, broader international relations, U.S. domestic issues, and the evolving political landscape.

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Episode Overview

In this episode of The Five, the panel unpacks President Trump’s recent announcement of a “framework” for a deal with Greenland. The panelists discuss the symbolic and geopolitical implications of the deal, Trump’s combative presence at Davos, the shifting nature of transatlantic alliances, and a slew of hot-button domestic issues – from immigration enforcement turmoil in Minnesota to the re-establishment of mental institutions. The hosts intertwine biting humor with pointed analysis of elite culture, Democratic messaging struggles, and the ongoing tension between governance and performative politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Greenland Deal: The Art of the Threat

Timestamps: 01:20 – 05:54

• Trump touts a nearly finalized framework involving Greenland, promising no military intervention and claiming the U.S. as the real protector and developer of the territory.

• Panel highlights Trump’s dramatic rhetoric, historical resentments ("After the war we gave Greenland back to Denmark. How stupid were we to do that?"), and needling of European allies.

• Dana Perino notes,

  “Just go and declare victory because they’re giving you nine tenths of what you’ve asked for... he explained more about the reasons for the Golden Dome and why we would need that.... He was needling the Europeans, of course, because they're slow and they're sclerotic and they're bureaucratic.” ([04:23])

• The U.S. seeks assurance of security, development potential, and strategic access – with clear signals this benefits both America and Europe.

2. Trump at Davos: Disrupting the Global Elite

Timestamps: 06:02 – 11:37

• Greg Gutfeld skewers the culture of Davos as elitist, self-congratulatory, and out of touch:

  “He didn’t go to Davos to be part of Davos. He went to Davos so it could be part of him. ...When he leaves that room, everybody there felt like America First threw up all over them... He’s a pit bull and he's protecting our yard.” ([06:10])

• The panel riffs on the spectacle of Trump as the disruptive "orange skunk at the garden party."
• Harold Ford Jr. labels the performance as Trump's "art of the threat," and sees NATO's pushback as a net positive for more constructive negotiations:

  "When you have leverage against President Trump, it actually works out better for everybody because you find yourself being less confrontational and more collaborative.... If NATO wins, China loses, Russia loses." ([08:53])

3. Domestic Fallout: Minnesota, Immigration Raids & Political Theater

Timestamps: 14:52 – 19:12

• DOJ pursues Minnesota's leaders over alleged ICE obstruction, with Governor Walz countering by daring Trump to visit.
• Jesse Watters and Greg Gutfeld criticize self-styled activists, allege fraudulent misuse of protest funds, and frame federal-local clashes as manufactured standoffs.
• Perino underscores nonprofit grifting amid civil unrest:

  “She’s made over a million dollars from leading departments, getting from nonprofits. Every year she makes more money than she gives out in grants. And as long as there is money to be made, you will have protesters like this organizing...” ([17:49])

4. The Davos Analogy: Elites vs. Populists, Ignored Voices

Timestamps: 11:41 – 13:55

• Emily Compagno draws parallels between Davos’ influence and manufactured consensus and critiques Trump’s disruption as a win for substance over self-congratulation.
• Critically, Emily inserts the missing voices of Greenlanders and the Inuit:

  “I would love to hear. And finally, the Greenlanders and the Inuit, we want to do what they want to do and let’s listen to their voices because they have been robbed of it for literal centuries.” ([13:41])

5. Restoring Mental Institutions: A Policy Flashpoint

Timestamps: 25:06 – 30:08

• Trump signs executive order to re-open mental institutions, blaming Democrats for closures leading to homelessness and public disorder.
• Greg Gutfeld mocks the progressive stance:

  “They turn compassion into this deadly farce that enables a lifestyle that puts the mentally ill and the drug addicted at risk, as well as others who at risk who happen to share the same subway... their politics dictates their compassion, meaning they have no compassion at all.” ([26:21])

• Panelists recount the history of deinstitutionalization, legal hurdles, and the net effect on urban life.

6. Democratic Messaging & Relatability Crisis

Timestamps: 33:37 – 38:30

• Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer laments her party’s “obtuse” messaging. Greg Gutfeld and others tease the word choice as emblematic of elite detachment:

  “She’s actually proving her point by using the word obtuse. ...isn’t that her way of saying we’re just too smart for the voters?” ([34:12])

• Panelists debate whether Democrats must become more direct and relatable to gain traction, comparing the messaging struggles to the GOP’s populist turn.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trump's Greenland Pitch:

  “All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland. It’s the United States alone that can protect this giant mass of land...” (Trump parody, [01:51])

• On Davos Elites:
  Greg Gutfeld:

  "It basically is Coachella for the Cialis crowd. ...He’s a pit bull and he’s protecting our yard." ([06:10])

• On Nonprofit Organizers and Activism:
  Dana Perino:

  “She’s made over a million dollars from leading departments, getting from nonprofits. Every year she makes more money than she gives out in grants.” ([17:49])

• Emily Compagno on Ignored Voices:

  “I would love to hear...the Greenlanders and the Inuit...their voices...they have been robbed of it for literal centuries.” ([13:41])

• Greg Gutfeld on Mental Institutions:

  “It’s actually less expensive to build these insane asylums, ‘cuz it’s only for a small amount of people committing all of these dangerous and heinous acts on the streets.” ([31:36])

• Dana Perino on Political Posturing:

  “As for Walls challenging Trump to go there, you don’t challenge a president to go to your state. You invite him to come.” ([17:49])

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Segment Timestamps

• 01:20 – 05:54: Trump’s Greenland framework and European reactions
• 06:02 – 11:37: Trump at Davos, the “art of the threat,” global elite satire
• 14:52 – 19:12: Minnesota ICE enforcement, protest profiteering, and activist grift
• 25:06 – 30:08: Debate over reopening mental institutions and social policy impacts
• 33:37 – 38:30: Democratic messaging struggles and the big tent problem

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Panel Tone & Style

• Conversational, sarcastic, and heavy on irreverent pop culture references (Davos as “Coachella for the Cialis crowd,” discussions of “golden domes” and “America First”).
• Willingness to satirize both sides of the political spectrum and poke fun at their own cohort.
• Occasional moments of serious policy reflection spliced with humor (homelessness, mental health, and urban safety).

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Additional Notes

• The podcast also includes lighter asides (e.g., William Shatner eating cereal in a car [39:08], and local rescue stories) that serve as palate cleansers between intense segments.
• Some moments focus on internal banter and recurring jokes, underscoring the show’s dynamic between panelists and trademark tone.

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This summary provides a comprehensive window into the episode’s narrative arc, highlighting both major substantive insights and the cultural-political commentary that defines The Five.

Transcript

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Hello everybody. I'm Jesse Waters along with Emily Compagno, Harold Ford Jr. Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five.

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The deal is going to be put out pretty soon. See it's right now a little bit in progress but pretty far along. It gets us everything we needed.

[E]

How long will deal we Mr. President.

[C]

The bug eaters at Davos are breathing a little easier after President Trump announced a framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland holding off on new tariffs and won't use the military to grab that big beautiful piece of ice.

[D]

Would you like me to say a few words of Greenland, big beautiful piece of ice? It's hard to call it land. It's a big piece of ice. After the war, which we won, we won it big. Without us right now you'd all be speaking German and a little Japanese perhaps. After the war we gave Greenland back to Denmark. How stupid were we to do that? But we did it. But we gave it back. But how ungrateful are they? Now I don't have to use force. I don't want to use force. I won't use force. All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland. It's the United States alone that can protect this giant mass of land, this giant piece of ice, develop it and improve it and make it so so that it's good for Europe and safe for Europe and good for us. They called me daddy right last time. We want a piece of ice for world protection and they won't give it. They have a choice. You can say yes and we will be very appreciative or you can say no and we will remember.

[C]

Meanwhile, the liberal media is painting President Trump as the bad guy for looking out for American interests.

[F]

What we are dealing with today is what happens when the winners of World War II, one of them, realize the order they built is crumbling and that the global hegemon is sounding and maybe acting now like an access power. Maybe we're the bad guys.

[G]

25Th Amendment is time.

[E]

You believe at this point that the President of the United States may not.

[F]

Have his full faculty.

[E]

I felt, I felt that before now.

[C]

Gracie Gavin was watching Trump's speech, longing for that spotlight and hoping to psych out the president. But whoops. Newsom claims that the White House blocked him from speaking at the event tomorrow, and he just wound up as a chew toy for Besant the bulldog watch.

[G]

Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle beach kin, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris. He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros.

[C]

All right, Dana, we have a framework for a future deal. With respect to Greenland, Perfect.

[E]

As I said yesterday, just go and declare victory because they're giving you nine tenths of what you've asked for and it is going to make the situation better. I thought that he did a couple things today. First of all, he said, everyone in Greenland, you can come out of your bunkers now. I'm not sending in the military. That was the main headline. Is not going to send in the military. The second thing he did that was more effective than I've seen him do in the past, and I would love, I think he'll probably do it at the State of the Union, is he explained more about the reasons for the Golden Dome and why we would need that, why the Israelis have been successful utilizing that technology in the past, but we have to up our game because of the situation in the north. So I think he was laying out the case for why it made sense. And he was needling the Europeans, of course, because they're slow and they're sclerotic and they're bureaucratic. But at the end, after the speech, he did the Q and A. And in the Q and A, I thought he really shined. In fact, I thought that was the best part because he said, I have a command of these issues. I know what I'm talking about. And I also think he's always known he's going to get what he basically wants. So now all they have to do is to figure out the details and he can say going forward that we have what we need in order to, in his mind, secure the, the hemisphere, which includes Europe and the western part of the world, and Canada in particular. Canada, the leader there gave a pretty anti. I wouldn't say anti. Should I say anti American. Anti American speech, but it certainly ruffled the President's feathers and it's probably not necessary because the golden dome would protect all of us.

[C]

He said he's been getting a free ride for quite some time. Greg, you liked the speech. You were enjoying it today.

[F]

I did look up golden dome on Urban Dictionary. It's disgusting. Why do people do that?

[E]

Should I look it up?

[F]

Yeah, look it up. I hate Davos. The whole point of going to Davos is to spend the next 12 months telling everybody that you were in Davos and you'll work it into a sentence, even if no one asked you. Hey, Greg, I hear Uncle Steve died. I know. My heart is as heavy as a snowfall in Davos. It's like, it basically is Coachella for the Cialis crowd. You know, like all these figureheads and parkas, you know, craning their necks to see who's more famous than they are. It is disgusting. And this is why, when Trump is there, it's, it's magical. The orange skunk at the garden party shows up. You know, he didn't go to Davos to be part of Davos. He went to Davos so it could be part of him. And that is what makes him so special. Love him or hate him, when he leaves that room. Everybody there felt like America first threw up all over them. It's like they got. It's like, it's like, talk about a golden dome. They got golden showered in America first. So it's like being like. I try to explain to people, people who don't understand Trump. It's like being in a courtroom. You're in a courtroom and there's this absolutely vicious lawyer, and if he's yours, you love him, and if he's not yours, my God, you hate him. So he just went into Davos, which is basically a European court, and made the case for our country and did it very bluntly. And you could have, you could have, you know, quibbles with it. And you see the view, obviously doing the view. And it reminds me, and this is where I think a lot of people end up with him. I could see myself in my late teens, like, watching him and thinking, I'm so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed. Cuz he's so mean. Why can't he be polite? I Mean, my God, he makes us seem so stupid. But then I'm been on this planet for six decades and I understand everything he's doing and where he's coming from because I have the experience of 60 years. He's a pit bull and he's protecting our yard.

[C]

How old is that sweater? Is that also 60 years old?

[H]

I don't know.

[F]

Do you like it?

[C]

It's got a look, Greg.

[F]

What's wrong with it?

[C]

If you ever went to Davos, you should bring the sweater.

[E]

If I were wearing that, he would say, what's wrong?

[F]

We know what's wrong. Just cause it's white.

[C]

I'm not wearing that. I thought that was yours.

[F]

Dana. Wait, is it cause it's white?

[E]

I actually like the sweater, but when you wear it then you look like you know, Dr.

[H]

Evil.

[F]

That was the effect. Dana.

[C]

Does it have shoulder pads?

[F]

It's ald. Ald. Amy Leon Dore.

[C]

Oh, it's French. Even better, not French.

[F]

It's from Brooklyn.

[C]

Harold.

[D]

The.

[G]

I thought first good to be with everybody. I thought what happened today was if the President writes a book about this, this is, I heard earlier today this would be the art of the threat. He did his threat and frankly, I think the other side did theirs as well. And I'll come back to that. I think we got out of this today. I listened to the speech in its entirety, his speech to the, to the World Forum. And he was himself, he was at times I thought informative, inspiring, and at times brilliant. And other times I didn't know where he was going and it seemed like he was meandering and he got caught up in some of the kind of the political speech making that he does. But at the end of the day, if the framework is indeed something that allows us to have military bases there, protect not only us, but our interests and even our NATO friends, and allows us to benefit from the economic resources, natural resources they have, this will be a win. I think the President probably also learned today, and I think our NATO allies probably learned today, that to the other side of the art of the threat, that when you have leverage against President Trump, it actually works out better for everybody because you find yourself being less confrontational and more collaborative and more cooperative. I think China was going to be the winner if we kept fighting with Europe and we kept fighting with NATO publicly. But the fact that I heard Dana's point about Mark Carney, I actually thought Carney, as critical as he was of the President, I think the President respects that. I think the President doesn't He doesn't do well in a negotiation if the other side, if he believes that they're weaklings and NATO exercised a little leverage and exercised a little strength, showing that maybe we won't send our soccer teams for the World Cup. And I think the President said, no, I need those soccer teams here next year for a variety of reasons. So they won, we won. And I think if NATO wins, China loses, Russia loses. So we found ourselves. I said to Democrats, don't get so caught up. Greg is right. Don't get so caught up in the literal Trump. I think you got to understand that Trump is at his best, he's at its best when he is put in a position where the negotiation maybe takes a little turn. And I think today the negotiation took a little turn and he gave us a better outcome than we started today.

[F]

Canada threatened not to go to the send a team.

[G]

The Europeans have suggested that they may not send their teams. But Canadian Prime Minister, to Dana's point, made the point that, look, this is not a rupture. This is not a blip. This is a rupture in our relationship and we can't afford a rupture. No, no, no.

[C]

China's arm.

[G]

No, I'm talking about, he's talking about just the rupture between NATO and America. Anyway, I think today I'm agreeing with you. I think today the President got. America got a better deal today. American workers, American companies, and for those of us American soccer fans, we got a better deal today.

[F]

Soccer is gay. Needing a lot of traction around the country.

[H]

Emily, do you guys remember in the Devil Wears Prada when I know, you know this scene when they're talking about the color blue and the intern is like, it's just blue. And then the head of the entire magazine says, you have no idea that that color was decided for you two years ago, that that would be in right now, you know, cornhole or Cornwall, whatever color blue it was. And the point is, that was what Davos used to be, right? It used to be elite signaling and not quite decision making, but coordination. And they would set the media narratives for the upcoming year of who was accepted and who wasn't and who was wearing the right turtleneck and who wasn't. And Trump. Oh, I'm kidding. I love it. It looks great. You look great. And Trump came in there and I feel like the first term we saw him frankly being shunned and mocked by those sort of self proclaimed elites. And now he's standing there and he's still not talking to them as One, he's talking to them and he's representing the people. He's obliterating these narratives that they tried to craft with substance for once because it was never about that decision making. It was only about that coordination, the shoulder rubbing things like Gavin Newsom likes to do, which is tout relationships rather than actual results. So I love that he came in there and he absolutely blasted it apart of what matters because up until now we, what would come out of Davos is just what we think should matter, but not what actually gets those solutions accomplished. But I'll say this, of all of these conversations I haven't yet heard and I think it would go a long way for our president to acknowledge the voices of the Greenlanders and the Inuit. And you know how I feel about the meteorite that I, we need to return it. Please return that dang meteorite. But more importantly, those Greenlanders and the Inuit have been some sterilized and terrorized. They are economically being undercut by the Danes and everyone around them right now is talking as if they're not in the room and they can't hear and they're not listening and that they don't have a voice. So I would love to hear. And finally, the Greenlanders and the Inuit, we want to do what they want to do and let's listen to their voices because they have been robbed of it for literal centuries. And I think that would go a long way in the global conversation and the narrative of President Trump to acknowledge that.

[E]

I love the idea of rubbing shoulders, not elbows.

[H]

Oh, is it elbows?

[E]

But I think you rub elbows. But like the visual I got is men in turtleneck rubbing shoulders.

[C]

It's like when Bush did the Merkel rubber shoulders.

[E]

Totally.

[C]

Tell me about that meteorite in the commercial. Okay, we'll get to it. Coming up next, Nick Shirley drops a dime on tampon Tim. And the land of 10,000 frauds.

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What a lucky man he was.

[B]

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[H]

The subpoenas are flying for Minnesota officials Keith Ellison, Jacob Fry and Tim Walz as the Trump DOJ investigates them over alleged ice obstruction. Now, instead of calling for calm, Governor Walz is inflaming tensions further by challenging Trump to visit Minnesota. And the Republicans in the House are hot on his tail, holding a hearing on the billions in waste and abuse uncovered in the land of 10,000 frauds. Independent journalist Nick Shirley testified about his work exposing alleged daycare fraud.

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Watch.

[C]

While people like Governor Tim Waltz called people like me a white supremacist, delusional conspiracy theorist.

[F]

He actually decided to drop out of.

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Re election because I believe of how deep and extensive this fraud is.

[H]

The Democrats. Margarita Sippen Senator Chris Van Hollen is cheering on the so called patriots who are inciting the chaos in Minneapolis.

[F]

One of the things that gives me great hope even amidst all of this division and chaos sown by Donald Trump are the patriots in places like Minneapolis who are standing up blowing whistles to protect their neighbors. Blowing whistles on the illegal tactics of ice.

[H]

Jesse. Blowing whistles to protect their neighbors. Does he mean from the recidivist murderers, child rapists, sodomizers and more? No, he means from the brave men and women enforcing the law.

[C]

So if your neighbor was a maid who never committed a crime except breaking into the country and you blew a whistle, I get it. But they don't even know their neighbors. Their neighbors have been convicted of homicide of child molestation. So it's so stupid. And if I were the administration, I would plant my flag and move on to San Francisco because they've already sucked about 10,000 criminal migrants out of this city. Just 3,000 the last three or four weeks. You've done a great job. Right now it's just a bunch of whistle mommies driving everybody crazy. And not much more can be accomplished in that city. I believe you leave all the lawyers there to sniff out the Somali fraud. That's where the real action is. They're going to stay and they're going to continue to investigate. But in terms of the manpower you have positioned in that city, use it somewhere else. Go west, head down to Denver, go to San Francisco. Gavin Newsom says this state of California cooperates with ice. Make him prove himself. Right, because JD Is going there on Thursday. Trump's not going there. It's probably too dangerous for Trump to go there. JD Will go there, declare victory and move on. That place has already seen enough.

[H]

Dana, how do you see the narrative war being played out? Because one is has facts on their side, obviously.

[G]

Yeah.

[E]

Well, okay, a couple things. I think it's sort of like Greenland. You've accomplished it. So then we can move on. The people who believe that this is going to go on in perpetuity are probably wrong. But I listened to a podcast this morning. Then there are people that are on the part of this ICE Watch thing and they were interviewing them. There's just a fundamental disagreement about what safety is in their neighborhoods. I think I have a very different view than they do. I don't think they have necessarily a different view from everybody in Minnesota, but it was pretty shocking some of the things that they're saying and willing to do against the federal government. As for Walls challenging Trump to go there, you don't challenge a president to go to your state. You invite him to come. And as we were saying this week, maybe Trump will invite him to come. But now Walls and Ellison in particular, they are going to be invited to testify and that will be under oath. So that's going to be very important. I also wanted to mention something about Fox Digital's piece today about this woman, Nekima Armstrong. So she's a primary organ behind all of this and she has made so much money. She's made over a million dollars from leading departments, getting from nonprofits. Every year she makes more money than she gives out in grants. And as long as there is money to be made, you will have protesters like this organizing and getting ready for San Francisco, Denver, or I actually think the next place is going to be right here in New York.

[H]

That's what we saw with Black Lives Matter.

[F]

Yeah. And when you have a mayor who always picks the wrong side, we're going to get screwed. And this ICE Watch thing is the new Black Lives Matter. Meaning that like get all these dumb white people to invest and then when the fraud starts pouring out, they just move on to something else. I think I should be a lawyer and I'll tell you why. The good family, the good, the victim's family would have an amazing lawsuit, it is so obvious against Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota. Cuz they, you know, they, they prevented the police from doing the kind of crowd control that they would have at every confrontational event, some even non confrontational, the police would always be there. They didn't even supply a crossing guard. And you know, that was deliberate. That was deliberate. A better than average lawyer. And I think I could, I didn't even go to law school. I barely made it out into Bry. But if you, you could ease, a lawyer could easily point this out. The local leaders did not follow protocol. She would be alive today if they had. So this was clearly a deliberate decision that sacrificed security for politics and that created an environment for a high risk, confrontational environment that ended up with a woman losing her life and it's a child losing her mot. See good lawyer here. The lawyer then could say they stopped law enforcement from transferring illegals to ice. So you had community arrests which Were get this in the community where then the protest, protest, agitation took place. You wouldn't have had that if there was interaction and they didn't share the info between the local and federal law enforcement which also then forced them to do raids again creating high risk apprehensions. And you know they keep saying oh they're making you show us our papers, you show us. That's what you have to do if you don't have any interaction between local and state. This is such I predict that her family, maybe her father will, will file a lawsuit and sanctuary cities should all think about this by not, by not cooperating, they eliminate quiet arrests. You're done. She's got an eight figure deal. This is me as a non legal but legal genius.

[H]

All right, Harold, this is your court judge. Harold, what do you make of attorney Gregg's argument that the real danger comes from impeding these enforcement activities rather than complying and handing over the child sodomizers?

[G]

I'll come back to that. I want to arrest every child sodomizer that we possibly can. I think Jesse's point time to de escalate is what everybody needs to grab onto. I think Governor Walsh. I read dp. I read where Walz invited him. If he challenged him to come, he should not have done it. But I thought he had he invited.

[E]

Him come see how nice Minnesotans are.

[G]

Yes, I invite you to join. But I think the President should take him up again. I think what I learned today from the President being in Davos. The President came with a disposition and demeanor that was not one where he escalated things. He wanted the collaborating corporate. He was still himself. And then the Europeans and NATO had a little leverage. I think the leverage now if I were the mayor of San Francisco, Mr. Lurie or the mayor of Denver, I'd be calling right now saying look, I hear the 150 names here are the 250 repeat violent offenders who are illegals. In addition we have 100 guys who are Americans who are the repeat offenders. Come help us here, Mr. President. You gain a little leverage with the President if you get out front and said we asked the President to come.

[F]

We told them I wanted to be Americans.

[G]

I know but I want them, I want them arrested. It doesn't have to be isis.

[F]

But that's not ISIS job.

[G]

I said two different things, Greg.

[F]

You did, Harold. Apologize.

[G]

The illegals, we find them and I'm making your point. You made the point two months ago before Madame became, before he got elected that we know the repeat offenders here in New York City. We should be going after them, but let's just deal with the illegals. If I was a mayor or governor of one of these states that the president might be targeting or looking to come to a, whether it be New York or Colorado, wherever it might be, that's what I'd be doing. Trying my hardest to get out in front of it and to get leverage with the president, political leverage, and at the same time solve a problem that exists in communities all across the country.

[F]

It's such an easy problem to solve if the cops just did their job, that were allowed to do their job.

[G]

I'm not.

[F]

That's all. That's all. That's all. You create separation between the activists and ice. Problem solved. We, or you give them the information so they can just go pick them up in the jails. Problem solved. So I guess what I'm saying, Harold, is it has nothing to do with an actual debate at all. This is a larger question about subversion. They don't care about these illegals. They just want to subvert culture, society.

[G]

There might be some that are like that, but I think that they're, I think there are politicians in some of these cities and states that want ICE there to get the worst people, to get the worst people out of these communities who are committing the most violent and who are repeat offenders.

[F]

Miserable, sad women, Harold.

[H]

All right, guys. Coming up next, President Trump is doubling down on his plan to bring back mental institutions. When you want your spring break to feel like.

[B]

And your kids pool day.

[H]

To feed feel like. And your hotel bed to feel like. Ooh. And room service to feel like. Because at Hilton hospitality feels like.

[G]

Your cabana's ready.

[C]

Would you like fresh towels?

[B]

It matters where you stay.

[H]

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[D]

What you gonna do in a beat up one birthday?

[E]

President Trump making a lot of news during his nearly two hour recap of his first year back in office. One big talker was the eo. That's an executive order, Greg. He signed it over the summer to bring back mental institutions.

[D]

Signed an executive order to bring back mental institutions and insane asylums. We're going to have to bring them back. Hate to bill those suckers. Democrats in New York, they took them down. And the people, people live on the streets now. That's why you have a lot of the people in California and other places, they live on the streets. They took the mental institutions down.

[E]

He also mentioned Gavin Newsom earlier today when he was talking about this. Could we play that as well?

[D]

No, Gavin was here. I Used to get along so great with Gavin when I was president. Gavin's a good guy and we're going to. If he needed it, I would do it in a heartbeat. I'd love to see. We did help them a lot in Los Angeles. If I were a Democrat governor or whatever, I would call up Trump.

[E]

And one of the reasons you said that, Greg, is because of the homeless problems. For example, in California, Gavin Newsom has spent $23 billion on it. It's not helped. And you spent.

[F]

Right, spent.

[E]

And then you remember, of course, de Blasio's wife was given $1 billion to deal with it. That money went somewhere nobody can find it.

[G]

Yeah.

[F]

You know, I just worry if we open up these mental institutions, what's going to happen to Ms. Now. Like, there goes their audience. But this is kind of where the progressive definition of compassion really becomes exposed. What if Trump, what Trump is promising, had actually initiated, like five years ago, There would be a thousand thousands of people who are alive now that are dead and millions who might be back on their feet. But they turn compassion into this deadly farce that enables a lifestyle that puts the mentally ill and the drug addicted at risk, as well as others who at risk who happen to share the same subway or get pushed in front of the subway. I mean, how many Dems will be against this because it's Trump? Their politics dictates their compassion, meaning they have no compassion at all. You know, there's all these Obama, these Obama, these videos of Obama and Bill Clinton and Hillary floating around talking, really tough on immigration. As tough as Trump is now, and yet he's the fascist. But if any Democrat had said, we need to get the sick and suffering off the streets, and they would probably say how compassionate. But part of this performative ignorance is to, you know, see a naked man defecating in front of a family of tourists and go, oh, he's just expressing himself. You know, he's a victim of patriarchy.

[E]

I saw something crazy last week on 8th Avenue.

[F]

Guy pooping.

[E]

No, he wasn't pooping. Fully naked.

[F]

Wow.

[E]

He was cold.

[F]

Wow. How you could tell control.

[E]

It was out of control. And he and two police officers, Emily, had to try to restrain him and deal with it.

[F]

Did he get back in time for his 6:00pm show?

[E]

Find out in 26 minutes. Emily, what I wanted to ask you is about the quality of life issues, that this would help for the families of these people, because they're upset, actually, the people themselves and somewhere for them to go. And then the quality of life issues for the rest of us who are trying to navigate them, I'm sure you.

[H]

Guys have gone through the same thing here where a, that kind of behavior is normalized, you know, in a 20 minute walk to work. What we see on a daily, it just, it's most people don't see in a lifetime. And what I realized before, during and after Covid is the same people are out there. You know, who's blocked. You're like, there he is. Or you know, we are. They are all familiar to us. So to your question about how the families feel, it is so heartbreaking to know that the same elderly woman or the same young guy or the same naked freak on 8th Avenue has been there and is there suffering on the streets through four seasons each year with no help whatsoever. What changes things, by the way, is the legal battlefield here because before there was kind of legal liability and I think states were frankly afraid of action. And now it sort of shifts the burden to inaction. So states that are the most vulnerable are ones that don't have the post grants pass laws where, yes, they can enforce no public encampment and also that don't provide mental health treatment like get off your butts. What are you doing with the $253 million, Gavin? Or billion, whatever it is. The point is they're doing nothing. So now finally cities once again can actually do something or they won't have the federal teat. And I know a lot of this is sort of up and over the heads of people that don't live with this kind of crime, but just a reminder, I decided to pick one when Christina Yuma Lee, here, right here, just a few blocks, a few blocks from here, was stabbed 40 times while she hid in her bathroom. She was 32 years old by someone who had been arrested 27 times in just seven years, was bat crap crazy. And cops knew about it and news knew about it and the neighbors knew about it. And what happened? She died. She was the sacrificial lamb, one of hundreds of thousands because he was not committed like he should have been. And now we're paying for three squares a day for him because he's in prison.

[E]

Harold, could Democrats get behind this idea?

[G]

Well, I think that, I think they should. Look, I was so pleased to hear the president, what he just said there saying, Democratic governors ring me. Democratic mayors ring me. So we were echo some of the things we were saying in the, in the last segment. I think that is great. I love it when politicians are willing to work across the aisle. Now President Trump there's some Democrats who are so exercised with him and maybe so constipated in the mind about him because of things he said in the past that got them so upset. But the President could be upset about things that people say about him as well. When politicians give you a line or give you a lifeline to try to solve a problem, do it. I love it when politicians also swing for the fences on things. We've had the kinds of institutions the President is talking about. Some worked, some didn't work. But it might be time to go back to it. And if Governor Newsom wants to call him, he should. If any Governor in the country wants to call him, he absolutely should. And for those who think that he can't, this President is the same President who just a few weeks ago had Mayor Mondame from New York, who he called a socialist and a fascist Socialist and the Mayor called him a fascist. They met in the White House and talked about things they could do for New York. And then Senator Warren, Elizabeth Warren, the chairman of the Banking Committee was with them, or the ranking member of the Banking Committee was with them. Senator Tim Scott, the chair. But the banking Democrat elite Democrat said they wanted to work on ways to make things more affordable. Democrats call them, work with them, try to find ways to reduce crime and reduce the scourge of the problems we face with the mentally ill in our streets. Now our Governor here in New York is one of the first to call on Jesse.

[E]

Could this help cities get it together?

[C]

Absolutely. Dana, remember the 50s?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

They call it the golden age because there was such low crime and almost no homelessness because we used to institutionalize the mentally ill. And then what came along, Thorazine. The pharmaceutical companies just gave everybody who was crazy a pill. It just turned him into a dumb puppy. So they just gave him a pill, sent him out onto the streets. Then the civil rights lawyers came in and then sued anyone who tried to institutionalize anybody. Like some schizophrenic who just beats people up for a living would say, okay, yeah, put me in a straightjacket. And then it got expensive because it costs like $100,000 a year to put some of these people in these loony bins. So they said dump them all into the prisons and the streets and the emergency rooms. And what did that do? It just created absolute mayhem on the streets. So it's actually less expensive to build these insane asylums, cuz it's only for a small amount of people committing all of these dangerous and heinous acts on the streets that D has to see every darn day.

[E]

It was something you know would be.

[F]

Great, though, is if this happens, there'll be liberal cities that build sanctuary cities for the insane, like have sanctuary poly. If you're crazy, come here.

[E]

But that one might be a magnet. And then maybe we can prevent that from happening here.

[D]

But what.

[E]

Of course we're not going to prevent that. Ooh, I just walked right back. I just walked in a big circle. Okay, coming up next, Democrats built a party on words like patriarchy and privilege. And now Gretchen Whitmer realizes that might be too obtuse to sell.

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Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, AKA Big Gretch, says the dams messaging can be too obtuse for people. Role it's been.

[I]

Democrats are a big tent. We want everyone to be successful. It's not picking and choosing. It's not a zero sum game where I only win if you lose. Everyone can get ahead, and that's got to be our mindset. And I. That's why I'm a Democrat sometimes. Maybe our message is too obtuse for people and we have to really have those. Those interactions that, where people feel like, yeah, you matter too.

[F]

Yeah, she's. She's actually proving her point by using the word obtuse. You know, it's like, you find a better word. But isn't that her way of saying we're just too smart for the voters?

[E]

No, I actually think she gets it. I do think I would not have used the word obtuse because it's like, what does that mean? Basically, you're saying, just talk normal to normal people. I read a ton of news, as you know, as I'm so prepared.

[F]

You are.

[E]

What I was gonna say is that you read a lot about, oh, the media's, like, hopeful splitting of the Republican Party and the big tent ripping apart. You don't read about it as much as with the Democrats, but it's there.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And she's probably trying to position herself to think about 2028, as are many others, and they're realizing that they don't have a real handle on middle America. And she's given it a shot.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

You know, Harold, if you're asking a Democrat to be real direct and relatable, aren't you asking them to be maga?

[G]

I think one could make a little bit of an argument that that's what real is and approachable and accessible is right now. But I agree with Dana. I think what Gretchen Whitmer's doing is brilliant. She'll get her wording right, she'll get the messaging right. But I think the country needs to see that they are Gretchen Whitmers, they're Andy Beshears, they're Wes Moores, they're Josh Steins. I think some of. There's nothing wrong with Shapiro and Newsom, but I think it's important for the country to see that we can. We can speak like people in the middle of the country do. This is a governor in Michigan, Whitmer, who has reached out to President Trump. She's been criticized by Democrats for going to the White House to work to ensure economic development, economic investment and development in her state from the federal government. I think a military installation or two. And she got criticized by Dems. That's what we need more of. That's what the country wants more of. And frankly, as I've said many, many times before, President Trump is not a traditional Republican or a traditional Democrat. He is a new kind of party. And I think if you. For Democrats to win in 2028, we're going to have to present something new. And Gretchen Whitmer, Governor Whitmer is on to that.

[F]

Well, her first step in being, like a relatable, normal person and a woman would be to defend women. And I don't remember her coming out super strongly against trans in sports or surgeries against kids, unless I'm mistaken. I mean, like I said, there's no Internet mom. Like, why doesn't she put her money where her mouth is?

[H]

That's the thing. Because the message isn't obtuse, it's explicit, and voters are rejecting it. She's made it quite clear, actually, that biological boys should play in women's sports, that we shouldn't respect the cops or even fund the cops. And the list goes on. You can't call yourself a big tent while punishing half the country and telling half the country that they are the problem. I feel like she's doing exactly what a lot of members of her party keep doing, which is that when they win, they're like, oh, yeah, the voter spoke. And then when they lose, they're like, the voters just don't understand. They don't get it. Big tent politics, in a nutshell means that disagreement is allowed. And we have seen over and over again that you are punished, you are exorcised or excommunicated if you do not agree. So her 5 cent words aren't going to matter.

[F]

You know, Jesse, the problem is it's hard to be real if you don't know what you are. And I think everything to them is a role. Identity is something you apply to yourself for status. How do you get yourself out of that mess?

[C]

Well, you have to do things because they don't do anything with the money we gave them. We gave them so much money for the Green New Deal, Greg, and they built one windmill off the coast of Martha's Vineyard and it broke the next year. And then they had to like wait another year. It's back up and it's not even operational and only powers 30,000 homes in Massachusetts. And, and then rates went up in Massachusetts. So you look at these people. Yeah, I care about the environment. You can't even manage it. I want to like this woman. I'm trying to get into this woman. Her voice is a little annoying. I hate to say that about a woman, but I have to call balls and strikes and don't use the word obtuse. It's one of those words you think you know what it is but you want to just check to make sure.

[E]

You know, like side, side chat.

[C]

Like, is she using it correctly? I don't know. Don't use that word.

[G]

She won the segment because we're talking about Go big Gretch.

[E]

Keep doing Go big Gretch.

[F]

All right, coming up next, we Shatner and a bowl of cereal.

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[G]

Welcome back. William Shatner was photographed eating a bowl of cereal while in his car at a stoplight in Los Angeles. You guys think it was Raisin Bran or was it Corn Flakes?

[C]

I'm gonna go Froot Loops. When you have a self driving car, this is what you can do. You can do whatever you want with your hands.

[G]

Harold, 94 year old guy doing look, I give him credit, I'm giving credit. D.P. is this something?

[E]

I think it was Brazen Bran.

[F]

Oh, well done.

[E]

I don't really care. Don't you get arrested for things like that? Or pulled over.

[G]

Was it a driverless car?

[C]

I'm assuming it was.

[F]

It'd be great if it wasn't.

[C]

How's he driving the car.

[G]

With his knee? Hold on, I'm coming to you last. What do you think?

[D]

Wow.

[G]

Emily, what do you think? Our move.

[H]

Okay, everybody. So when I was a Raiderette, my girlfriend that I cheered with on the tape would literally this every day before practice. We were in the same carpool. She would drive the car super fast. Like racing to practice while eating a bowl of cereal. It was beautiful. It was like amazing. It was like Heisman worthy winning. So when I saw this, I was like, yes.

[C]

Would you have honorary Raiderette?

[G]

Would you have him on? Would you have him on?

[F]

I could be him 94 doing what he does. This isn't about William Shatner. This is about how awesome cereal is. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. Is there any food better? There's nothing better. I can eat cereal every meal of the day. Mix it up with granola. So you have some Froot Loops in the morning. Captain Crunch at lunch you get the granola. Like I could eat. Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night and go, cereal. And I'll get up at 1am and I'll eat a big bowl of cereal.

[C]

Cause you're a child.

[F]

I'll commit a string of grisly murders in my neighborhood and then go back to bed.

[C]

Serial killer murder.

[H]

Cinnamon toast crunch.

[G]

One More Thing. One More Thing is up next.

[H]

This is Ainsley Earhart.

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It's time now for One More Thing.

[F]

Dana.

[E]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

You've heard of the snowstorm that's coming, but guess what? It won't be this bad. This is what they had in Russia. They had almost 7ft of snow that was dumped in Kamchatka Peninsula. That's the biggest snowstorm in 60 years. Guy jumped, even jumped out of a window into his watch. One, two, three. It's actually real. We checked it out. He's fine.

[C]

That's how I know those crazy Russians. Right, Greg?

[F]

You know it. All right, tonight we got Emily Campagno, Joe Mackey, Jim Florentine, Tyrus. A fun show.

[C]

That's it. Greg, you don't want to monopolize everybody's time during One More Thing. Okay, I'll go to the horses jumping through flames in Spain. This is what they do. Animal rights groups not too happy with that, but just another cultural tradition by our friends in Spain.

[E]

It's been a good series that you've done.

[C]

We're going around the world tonight. Tommy Lair and Charles Payne, Chris Hansen and Madison Allworth.

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