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Kayleigh McEnany
Hello, everyone. I'm Kayleigh McEnany along with Jessica Tarlow of Charlie Hurt, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o' clock in New York City, and this is the 5. President Trump has Democratic heads spinning, and they can't figure out how to fight him or how to shake off the baggage that led to their brutal defeat last year. California Governor Gavin Newsom is actually praising the legacy of Joe Biden while getting confronted on how his friends think he looks like an infamous fictional serial killer.
Charlie Hurt
People say that you are like American Psycho. Yeah, Jesus. Yeah. Like I said, news scum.
Greg Gutfeld
I mean, look. But even your friends, like, say this.
Charlie Hurt
Yeah, I'm reevaluate my guest list. I really am scared to death about what's going on in this country. I really believe it as code red. It's five alarm fires. We'll continue to build on the legacy, I would argue, of our former president, who I think was one of the most successful presidents in the last century, and that is Joe Biden. And I will defend that to my grave.
Kayleigh McEnany
Some tough questions from John Carl. Meanwhile, another California Democrat who could make a run in 2028, Kamala Harris, has been busy defending Joe Biden on her book tour, but even she seems to be losing patience. Harris recalled how unbelievable it was when Biden called her before her debate with Trump, only to make the whole call about himself.
Dana Perino
I was told that he wanted to call me so that I'd be ready, and I was so sure it was to buck me up and go get him. And he did say that for the first beat. And then he went on to talk about a group of people in Pennsylvania who were saying bad things about me because they heard I was saying bad things about him. And when I hung up the phone, I was just. I was. It was unbelievable. And I was, Yes, I was angry and deeply disappointed. It just was so unnecessary. My takeaway is his motivation was all about himself.
Kayleigh McEnany
And as the party tries to look past the disastrous Biden era and look to the future, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is warning his fellow Democrats that going down the path of socialism from the likes of Zoramdani could destroy everything.
Greg Gutfeld
A lot of the mainstream Democrats are afraid of the left. So they think they're going to make peace by endorsing Zorron and they're going to buy peace with the far left. I have news for them. The far left is never, never going to declare peace. They're going to come for power.
Kayleigh McEnany
Well, Dana, look, I'm very struck by Kamala Harris, because you've briefed a principal and I get when you're briefing a principal, you're very selective what you take to them. I remember Trump before the debate. I was selective what I told him, called him about. But she's making this all about her. Yes, that was probably bad what Biden did. But rather than being angry about, I don't know, running in the first place, she's angry because he made the moment about himself. She's thinking about herself.
Dana Perino
Well, and she's still so upset about it. And she has to use all the vocal fry and all the acting skills that she can come forward with by how hurt she was. Maybe she was mad. I would be happier or not happier, I don't care. But I would be more impressed if she was like, yeah, it made me mad and that's why I did that. Like, where is the fire? Where is the design? But when she says she is not ruling out running for president, she is ruling herself out, just not with words, but with video and all of this. And Gavin Newsom, it's like he can't decide which personality he wants to be. Every day you could have a different one. Maybe that's a great strategy for him in the long run. But there's anti woke Gavin, there's woke Gavin, there's guns Gavin, anti guns Gavin. There's the one who sounds cool when he cusses and there's the one who like hangs out with professional athletes. And then he's the one who's like with all the ice people. And then he's the one who is standing nearly alone defending Joe Biden as the best president of the last century aside from Karine Jean Pierre. Even Kamala Harris isn't doing that anymore. I don't know what is. Who is the constituency that that helps him with. And I could be wrong in the long run, but I actually believe that whichever Democrat is willing to, to stand up and give a full throated defense of saying that was a terrible administration, there are things we did that were wrong. We focused on all the wrong things. Here is a new path forward and I am the one to lead it. That that will be the person that the Democrats can figure out a way to build a coalition around.
Kayleigh McEnany
Yes.
Dana Perino
So to that end, unless it's oh, Rahman Mandani and then all bets are.
Kayleigh McEnany
Off, then all bets are off. To that end, he says Biden's the most successful president of the last century among them. You know, Jessica, I remember the CNN headline that we have here. Biden's Economic ratings are worse than Carter's. And then you have New York Post, Biden's the least popular president in 70 years, below even Nixon. And Carter, scathing poll fines. And said scathing poll was Gallup.
Jessica Tarlow
Yeah, I think that there is a way to talk about what you see as the legislative achievements of the Biden administration. If you want to talk about the Chips and Science act or what the American Rescue plan did, that he got gun control done, that he had, the US had the fastest recovery in the G7, you could do all without saying, you know, best president in the last century, because that's what people are going to glom onto, 100%. But this narrative that, you know, Democrats are in disarray and that no one can figure out, you know, how to talk about Trump or defeat Trump, I think Gavin Newsom is a pretty good test case for someone who knows exactly what to do. So he's now number one in the betting markets for who's going to be the Democratic nominee, which was not the case when Trump came into office. Prop 50, which is Gavin Newsom taking on Donald Trump in this redistricting fight from what he wants to be done in Texas, is going to be a huge success. The Republicans aren't even funding the effort against it anymore. I mean, the approval, I think it's at 57%. You have even the O.C. orange county, which is very conservative, turning out to say, yes, we should redistrict. Democrats are doing better and better on the generic ballot. Portends well for the midterms. You have key constituencies that Trump won. Greg, we already talked about it in the green room. Young voters cratering with them, Latino voters, 27% approval. It was 44% when Trump came into office. And headline after headline about this administration is layoffs, ups, Amazon Intel, Nestle, thousands of people losing their jobs. So I think that that says that the Democrats are doing a good job, certainly. And Gavin Newsom talking about this and that Americans are going to try voting for us in the midterm.
Charlie Hurt
So wait, wait, just to be clear, those people are losing their jobs henceforth, or hence the Dems are doing a good job.
Jessica Tarlow
No, hence that Trump is not doing a good job. And it is translating to support.
Charlie Hurt
Amazon is cutting out people because AI, therefore, the Dems are doing a good job. That's what I heard.
Jessica Tarlow
The job of the president to be able to manage the American economy and ensure.
Kayleigh McEnany
Charlie, Charlie, here on the subject of polling. First, the CNN average, the generic ballot is at plus three. Democratic. It was plus 11 in October of 2017. So not a great position, even CNN saying that. And, Charlie, we look at economic data, we have this poll that shows, again, Gallup, 43% last October said the economy was the biggest problem to them. Now, 24%. Trump has made a lot of headway.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, he's made the economy a lot better for a lot of people. And at the end of the day, he takes a lot of gambles, a lot of risks. But at the end of the day, that's the only thing that's going to matter. If the tariffs don't work the way he expects and the border, his border strategy doesn't work for the economy of regular people, then all bets are off. The problem with Gavin Newsom is he's totally delusional. And if he's going to sit there and say that Joe Biden is the greatest president he ever had. Kamala Harris lost the presidency because she couldn't think of one single thing that she would have done differently with the Biden administration. I don't think that Americans look at the Biden administration and think that that was some sort of ringing success. And I think a big part of that is that I don't think you can point to a single issue that Joe Biden or Gavin Newsom are embracing that they're in agreement on that jibes with what voters want. I can list you 50 issues that Trump has embraced, a lot of them not popular in Washington, but that he's made tremendous success by defying Washington, in some cases defying his own party that people love about him. And I would argue that actually, if, except for the hotly negative press that Trump gets, his popularity would be a lot higher right now if it were just based on those issues.
Kayleigh McEnany
You know, and, Greg, I go back to this democratic researcher, 250 focus groups, not a small sample. And they compared Democrats to tortoises, sloth and slugs. And I mean, animals are great, but it's not great politically to be compared to those.
Charlie Hurt
Yeah, it's deeply offensive. And, you know, I think go back to this. Comparing the governor of California to a serial killer. Patrick Bateman is deeply offensive to Patrick Bateman. He is a fictional character, but if he were real, he'd be very upset. He'd probably sue for slander. You know, I think it's pointless. We're talking about this in the green room, actually, for real, not a joke. We don't have to set the record straight. It's all out there. If you have to set the record straight with the Democrats about the Past. They're just gonna try to come back with the same crap. You don't have to do that. It has been settled. The science has been settled. We don't need to quarrel about them. Listening to, like even listening to Kamala complain about Joe Biden. It's not even about them anymore. It's about the people covering them, who covered for them. Remember, these were the people who said Biden was competent and then afterwards said that Harris was the best candidate ever. And if you questioned either one of those things, you were, you were called nuts. We were gaslit in immeasurable ways over these two people. So the media either has to admit collusion or clean house. And I talked about this yesterday. CBS is actually cleaning house. If you don't clean house, you get no credibility. The industry itself has no credibility. Until either they, they have a come to Jesus moment over the last four years or longer, or they fire everybody and replace them with real people. The issues are gone, Right? If you look at trans, that's gone. If you look at identity politics, it's a joke. Wokeism is a joke. Climate change just disappeared. So what are they looking for next? What's the big hoax? I think you're seeing, you know, they're trying to make ICE into the Gestapo. It's not going to work. Then you have this cry for affordability, which you know is a real thing. Affordability is a real thing, but it's not a real thing. The way the Dems are using it. They're replacing the word equity with affordability. Because if you ask, okay, what do you mean by affordability? From whom and for whom, right? Then you're back to equity and redistribution and higher taxes. People who wish to live somewhere beyond their means. That's who affordability is for. From are the people who will pay the taxes so the people can live beyond their means. This is no different than equity. We this is where if you're a smart thinking independent mind, you should be very suspicious when they use the word affordability because they're going for your wallet. You know, they're punishing the makers and indulging the takers. It's the same old story.
Greg Gutfeld
And if you look at the ads playing in place like New Jersey and Virginia for the Democrat candidates, they're all about cutting taxes or lowering costs. Who thinks that the Democrat Party is the party of lower taxes?
Kayleigh McEnany
Right? And I seem to remember the big beautiful bill that lowered taxes. But see what they may. No evil rich people.
Jessica Tarlow
I hate them.
Kayleigh McEnany
No, the Trump tax cuts lowered for every income bracket. All right, coming up next, an incredible night at Ole Miss. Erica Kirk and Vice President J.D. vance speaking to students on how they can keep Charlie's life and legacy alive.
Charlie Hurt
Well, it's always better when we're together. Yeah, it's always better when we're together. Ever seen it's will tame country? Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday through Thursday@fox news.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at Fox newspodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. Just like that. You're six years old and you take a nap and wake up and you're 25 and.
Dana Perino
Very good invitation. Thank you, Greg. So there's a packed house at a Turning Point USA event at Ole Miss. Erica Kirk and Vice President J.D. vance urging students to carry on Charlie Kirk's legacy of open debate and dialogue.
Greg Gutfeld
Watch.
Dana Perino
When you just said you are not stopping with the people who came here legally.
Charlie Hurt
Right.
Dana Perino
But you are pushing out policies that hurt us.
Charlie Hurt
I can believe that the United States should, should lower its levels of immigration in the future while also respecting that there are people who have come here through immigration path, lawful immigration pathways that.
Greg Gutfeld
Have contributed to the country.
Charlie Hurt
I want to encourage you, especially the students here, find your voice.
Kayleigh McEnany
You are the courageous generation.
Charlie Hurt
Hear me when I say that my husband believed that to his corporation court.
Kayleigh McEnany
That's why he went on campuses.
Dana Perino
But contrast that civil debate with some of the hateful rhetoric coming from the left. Liberal podcaster Jennifer Welch was recently laughing at a clip showing a no Kings protester saying she was, quote, glad that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
Jessica Tarlow
Listen up, Democratic establishment, you can either.
Charlie Hurt
Jump on board with this or we're coming after you in the same way.
Jessica Tarlow
That we come after Maga, period. Kudos to Bernie, to aoc, to Zoron.
Charlie Hurt
And that woman out in somewhere middle.
Jessica Tarlow
America saying Charlie Kirk, he was a.
Charlie Hurt
Racist, he was a piece of.
Jessica Tarlow
There are so many more of us.
Charlie Hurt
Than there are of them.
Dana Perino
And Hollywood actress Jamie Lee Curtis is walking back her compassion for Charlie Kirk. Last month she cried over Kirk's death despite holding different politics. But now she tells Variety that an excerpt of it mistranslated what I was saying as I wished him well. Like I was talking about him in a very positive way, which I wasn't. I was simply talking about his faith in God. Where do we want to start? Let's start with you, Greg.
Jessica Tarlow
Yay.
Charlie Hurt
Went from Ole Miss to old Maid. You know, is that Jennifer Welch's Lady. She's an interior designer.
Kayleigh McEnany
I know.
Dana Perino
Yeah.
Charlie Hurt
Boy, her house looks like crap. She's got to clean that place up, lady. But she is the villain of the moment, and she knows it. This is all deliberate, you know, by her metrics of success, which are attention, which is attention. She's doing pretty good. She's on the five. We have to stare at it. It's gross. And publicity is good. Publicity is. Now any attention is good attention. Except for attention when you're just being repulsive because that leaves a lasting impression or perhaps a stain. It's what we used to call a freak show. You know, you look at her and you hear her, and it's not a pleasant experience. You go, oh, I'm glad I'm not that. It's the feeling you got when you were in grade school and you went to the carnival and you saw the bearded lizard lady, and you go, ooh, I'm glad I saw that. But I'm glad I'm not that. I think that she performs a service for everybody by being so repulsive that, like, the bar is now lowered and everybody else feels a little lighter. I hope Jamie Lee Curtis realizes that she was forced to atone for a compassionate gesture. You got to think about that. I mean, the fact that she is trying to please people who condemned her for expressing sorrow and sympathy to a family who lost their dad. She does not see that these people are bad for her. When your friends say, don't do that, you need to leave those friends. But it's almost as though her cowardice is worse than what her friends demanded from her. What kind of people are. God, it's so. Aren't you glad you don't live in that world, Hollywood, where she's so scared of her own pr, of her own publicity, that she actually says, you know, I don't really mean to give. To offer condolences to a grieving family. I was so screwed up. Screw you, Kirks. Is that what you should have said? What a dirt bag.
Dana Perino
She's fallen so far that she has to listen to consultants and agents tell her that you can't be that way. And she does it.
Charlie Hurt
Yeah, it's sad.
Dana Perino
That's bad. The contrast of angry debate versus civil dialogue, like you saw and I. We were saying during the sound bite, the young woman who stood up to ask her question at the Charlie Kirk event, I thought she was pretty courageous.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. And she asked some. She asked good questions. There were personal questions, but I thought the questioners were. I thought that was kind of the most interesting part of the whole thing, last night, you had good questions, you had tough questions, you had adversarial questions, but you also had some bad faith questions. I thought that the way J.D. vance handled it was a masterclass. He answered. He engaged every single one of them, no matter how hostile the question, how personal, how even in the cases of a couple of bad faith questions, he answered every single one of them with charity and with clarity and with humility, which, of course is. You know, it's easy to win over the people you've already won over that you already agree with. But doing what Charlie Kirk did and JD Vance showed he could do last night, it's different, and it's a good thing. The harder the questions, the better the performance and the more engaging it is. And I think that it's probably the more people you win over by doing that, even if it's a bad faith question.
Dana Perino
And, Jessica, do you think this will be a new standard in political communication going forward? And could the Democrats fill a stadium like that of young people and who could stand and do answer all the questions?
Jessica Tarlow
I think Gavin Newsom could stand and answer all the questions. I think a lot of people. I think Pete Buttigieg certainly could stand and answer all the questions.
Charlie Hurt
Would anybody be in the audience?
Jessica Tarlow
Yeah, there would be people in the audience, but I don't. I just want to celebrate Erica Kirk with my time. I was so bowled over by her at the memorial when she spoke, and particularly struck when she talked about forgiving Tyler Robinson, the. I was supposed to say alleged killer, the alleged assassin who took her husband and was modeling. To me, someone who, you know, is not a Christian and not particularly religious person, but that's what I always thought of, that religious people were supposed to sound like someone who would express that kind of sentiment. And I loved what she said about encouraging young people to find your voice and that Charlie thought you were the courageous generation. Because that is what young people, people need to hear, right? Like, they're facing a very uncertain future, and they don't know what kind of jobs they're gonna be able to get. They don't. You know, they're not thinking necessarily. I understand it's different with conservatives and liberals about getting married and having kids. But, you know, when you're young, you don't know what your life is going to be. So hearing that from someone who you look up to, I think means a lot. And I know they're gonna be auditioning lots of people to kind of not fill his shoes, but to be doing these things. And Megyn Kelly's done it and Tucker has done it. But I find Erika Kirk just to be the best ambassador for the spirit of Charlie.
Dana Perino
I think she's the best speaker. I don't know about her generation by far that I've seen. Kaylee, you know her. So let's turn over to you for sure.
Kayleigh McEnany
I mean, I've called her the Esther of our time. I mean, I really feel she's here for such a time as this. And I mentioned this earlier. I want to mention it again. You know, my daughter doesn't pay attention to news. She normally runs through and is like, turn it on. You know, whatever, whatever princess show. But she was sitting there last night and she was engaged and. And she watched Erica Kirk for a few minutes. And I just found this to be very interesting. I filmed a little video. I sent it to the Turning Point team and they love to see that. And she was watching the part when she talked about the three questions on Charlie's desk. And the three questions were, what is something I can do for somebody else? Today was Charlie's first question. What is something to add value to the world? Today was his second question. His third question Erica shared was how can I honor God today? And it strikes me, Charlie Kirk's worldview, what animated him every morning. Those three questions is in such stark contrast to this ex Bravo star we put up who I didn't know who says f Charlie Kirk. I don't even want to repeat the rest of what she said. Erica Kirk has embodied all things good and beautiful. She's a female role model to people on both sides of the aisle. When she said I forgive you. And I think just her light shines so brightly amid all of this darkness that.
Charlie Hurt
But that I think to that point, I hate saying that Welch is that her name gets to be in the conversation with Erica Kirk. You don't have to do that much work. Just say something shockingly disgusting and suddenly you're kind of like elevate. She is the good. Erica's the good. But you need evil. And she decided to jump in there because that's elevates her 100%.
Dana Perino
All right, up next, President Trump hailing his amazing China summit. You can find out what he and G cooked up on trade. We'll be right back. I need to.
Charlie Hurt
Hey, Maria, Juanita and Erica, a little drunk in Mexico looking out on the Gulf of America. Things are a little different here. It's rolling around the beach and I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when.
Greg Gutfeld
At any moment now, President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump will be handing out some candy to trick or treaters gathered at the White House. And this comes after he locked down trillions in trade treats for the American people on his whirlwind Asia trip. President Trump and Chinese President Xi meeting for the first time in six years with some big results on tariffs and rare earths. Trump battling some turbulence to share the amazing news.
Charlie Hurt
These are rough wins in Asia, I must tell you. This is a rough flight. We could have waited an hour. Maybe they're going to be watching Trump.
Greg Gutfeld
They're going to say, he didn't look too good.
Charlie Hurt
He's got the shakes. I thought it was an amazing meeting. He's a great leader. Great leader of a very powerful, very strong country. China, overall, well, I guess on the scale from 0 to 10, with 10 being the best, I would say the.
Greg Gutfeld
Meeting was a 12.
Charlie Hurt
I think it was a 12.
Greg Gutfeld
So 12 out of 10, Dana. You know, it's kind of. I think the secret to Trump's success is that he runs for president, like, as the mayor of a city. He identifies obvious, fixable, relatable problems and then goes and fixes them.
Dana Perino
It reminds me, so when President Bush would go give a speech, like in Indianapolis, he'd say, well, everyone likes it when I come to town because the potholes get filled and all the things that people actually care about get taken care of. And maybe that's a great way to look at it. I love that on this one, these are two countries, the United States and China, that could be very adversarial and be very bad for each other. Right. If you continue to ratchet it up. And so what I like about this is President Trump said, I'm not going to deputize this. I am going to go there. I will be the one that negotiates. I'll be at the table. She needs that kind of respect in order to be nice, I should say. The critical minerals deal is probably most important. That also the fact that President Trump was able to sort of stave off some of the export controls, that would really hurt our industries and then also our safety. The fentanyl issue, I think it's good that, and I hope it's true. I think it's very hard to police. I mean, fentanyl is easy to move around. It's very difficult to police that. But if anybody can police it, it would be she. So now the relationship is at a stage where they can at least speak to each other. There's a visit that's coming up in six months that everybody can sort of get to. So I think overall, good headlines and a sort of wait and see to see how it ends up. But I would say this trip was definitely a plus. If you put. If you're looking for a column, I'd put it in the plus column.
Greg Gutfeld
So, Greg, you know, usually China likes to take advantage of America because they play a long game.
Charlie Hurt
Yeah.
Greg Gutfeld
But Trump also kind of plays a long game.
Charlie Hurt
It was interesting, although I, when I saw the turbulence, I was like, that was great, because I always thought that Air Force One was exempt from turbulence. You know, like, somehow they don't have that. Didn't you think that, like, oh, it.
Greg Gutfeld
Must be some need to sign an executive order?
Charlie Hurt
Yes. No, no turbulence. Look, I think that Trump operates on Schrodinger's threat, meaning it's a threat that exists, then it doesn't. So it's. When it's presented, it's not a threat because it's a done deal. A tariff. It's already been done. It's like, I will email the Five and I'll say that I am out the first two weeks of February. And then the producer says, what are you doing?
Greg Gutfeld
What do you do?
Charlie Hurt
We need you. And I said, sorry, it's a done deal. I already picked out the best nude beaches that are close to the villages. And then they say, what can we do to save your. Change your mind? I said, well, I can't think of anything except for the Valentine's Day, our special we're doing. I don't really want to do that. They go, well, we won't. So they kill it. And then I give up the vacation I never really had. That's what Trump does. He creates a bargaining chip out of thin air, the tariffs, puts it into motion. It's not a threat, it's a certainty because he's going to do it if he doesn't get his way. Unless you budge. Maybe consider what we need in terms of fentanyl. They make this deal, he takes the thing off the table, but it never really existed before. You're right, though. This is really hard to police. But at least we have China on record committing to something real. And if it doesn't happen, then you just put the thing back on the table that was there to begin with, that didn't exist before.
Greg Gutfeld
Jessica, were you familiar with Schrodinger's threat before hearing all that?
Jessica Tarlow
Mostly because. And the Green Room is getting a lot of action.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes, it is.
Jessica Tarlow
Greg was talking about it in the.
Dana Perino
Green room because he watched the Diplomat.
Charlie Hurt
I couldn't. No. I've heard of Schrodinger's cat. Man it for Mayflower.
Greg Gutfeld
I've now heard this three times, and I still don't know what it is.
Kayleigh McEnany
It's a new season.
Jessica Tarlow
It's fine.
Greg Gutfeld
I'm gonna look it up.
Jessica Tarlow
Just keep plowing through. That's what I do. 12 out of 10 seems a little generous for what happened here. And Greg is right. Donald Trump created a problem out of nowhere.
Charlie Hurt
I didn't say a problem.
Jessica Tarlow
Well, it is a problem. It's just flat out a problem for farmers that China stopped buying our soybeans, which is why they had to go over there and essentially beg China to take us back. And Scott Bessant was on with Maria, bragging about, you know, we're going to. It's 12 million metric tons coming now. And over the next three years, they bought 27 million metric tons. Whoa. But guess what? They did. Oh, sorry. 25 million over the next three years. But they bought 27 million metric tons just last year alone. So that we are not back to where we are. We will. Well, you say, oh, my God. I know that it's nice that you live here and that you're not a farmer, but the farmers care how many million metric tons are being purchased.
Charlie Hurt
I think we'll be like. I think we'll be.
Jessica Tarlow
That is a very arrogant attitude to have. And you accuse my party of having it. Two questions that were unanswered that are a very big deal. What is going to go on with the Nvidia Blackwell chip? And will they allow. Will Trump allow them to sell it to the Chinese, which they want to. We know that Nvidia spent $10 million on this ballroom. This policy change could reap them $400 billion. Sorry, 10 million on the ballroom. 400 billion. And then also Taiwan did not come up. That's something we're always.
Kayleigh McEnany
I would just think that was a plus for Trump.
Charlie Hurt
Yeah.
Jessica Tarlow
This is curious. I would know.
Kayleigh McEnany
This is only what we know so far. I would also note a political headline from November of last year. Biden scrambles to emergency proof US China ties. They said Trump wouldn't even dialogue with China. Oh, wait, he did. He's got the soybeans coming. He's got the oil and gas. This is only what we know so far. This is after four trade deals in Malaysia. This is after he goes to Japan. $550 billion investment worth 110 of their GDP. This is, by the way, after bombing Forte releasing the hostages. Conflicts resolved. Seven wars, seven months. Cambodia, Kosovo, drc, Pakistan, Israel, Egypt, Armenia. And then of course, you have that beautiful deal. And Gaza.
Jessica Tarlow
What'd you say about this?
Kayleigh McEnany
You know what? Compare that to Biden. Compare that to Biden. This president is doing great.
Greg Gutfeld
This is why I love it when you bet cleanup.
Kayleigh McEnany
I like being clean up. Hitter. Yeah, no, she can. Yeah, I got that. Goes well.
Charlie Hurt
Are you saying women are good for cleanup? You are so sexist.
Greg Gutfeld
Up next, hr, Chicago's woke. Mayor Brandon Johnson claims Trump is zip tying black babies. Okay.
Charlie Hurt
New data released by dhs painting a stark picture of the danger ICE agents face. Death threats against them have exposed exploded up more than 8,000% from last year. Democrats like Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson are adding fuel to the fire with shocking accusations of ICE agents zip tying black babies for the nastiness and the racist. Let me finish that point. Is that when you have black babies being thrown in the back of vans, zip tied in the middle of the night, and masked men sticking guns in the faces of black and brown people, that is nasty, is vicious, is racist. Dana, maybe it's me. I don't think that helps. Making up stuff.
Dana Perino
Well, if you're going to say something like that, you better have some evidence.
Charlie Hurt
Yeah, show us the pictures, champ.
Dana Perino
You need to do that. But the other thing that's interesting is that it's so ridiculous and absurd that when they're making up stuff in order to try to incite violence. Because remember what they remember a couple months ago, three months ago, somebody anonymous on the left said what we really need is for one of us to get shot and then they'll take us seriously and then maybe ICE will back off. The other thing is that in the Washington Post today, there's a story or a column about how fun it is in Chicago right now. Because when you go to these ICE events, events and protests, you can dress up in costume and you can take your improv group and it's like, okay, are you. It feels like a self perpetuating situation, like no one's solving it. They want the problem ISIS showing that they're not going to go away.
Charlie Hurt
That is a really good point. Because Charlie, if you think about it, climate change is gone and then the accusation of genocide in Israel is gone. How soon? This is like the new thing. How soon is Greta Thunberg going to fly to America and chain herself to an ICE van?
Greg Gutfeld
We could only wish. Yes, it'll be great for gut film. Exclamation point. No, you know, talk about like not, not lowering the temperature. This just, you know, amplifies the temperature 10x. He went on to say, not only that, make that outrageous claim. And by the way, if it is true, how is it possible you haven't moved heaven and earth to get to the bottom of it? Yeah, that's how you kind of know that he's completely making up. But he goes further to warn residents of his city of a rematch of the Civil War, saying, if my ancestors as slaves can lead the greatest general strike in the history of this country, taking it to the ultra rich and big corporations, whatever that means, we can do the same today. I don't think calling for a new civil war is going to help anything here.
Charlie Hurt
Well, Jessica, it always goes back to this one problem with cities like Chicago. One party rule. I mean there are no, there's no so you. So it's like the Democrats don't keep their Democrats in line. This guy is terrible. He's terrible for Democrats saying this stuff is not good for you guys.
Jessica Tarlow
No, it doesn't help. Certainly stresses me out when I see it in the rundown. So thank you, Brandon Johnson, Paul Dallas I think would have been the better choice for Chicago. And we talked about San Francisco last week and Dan Lurie is a Democrat and is doing a great job.
Charlie Hurt
So it's possible.
Jessica Tarlow
Yeah, we're fantastic. But you can look at a couple of metrics, a couple of metrics to understand how immigration enforcement in this country is completely run awry. So ProPublica had this huge investigation into US citizens that are being detained. 170Americans that have been taken, 20 citizens were locked up for 24 hours without getting to call a loved one or their lawyer. And our very own Bill Malusion was reporting a few days ago on this inner turmoil within DHS that Tom Homan and Todd Lyons, the ICE acting director, basically want to prioritize the worst of the worst, the criminals, which is what they told us they were going to do. But Kristi Noem and Corey Lewandowski and Bovino and of course Stephen Miller want to just go after everybody. And that is part of the problem here. When you have people that are scared of ICE are saying that's men are getting out of cars and trying to round up people. Those are real stories that are going on. And the American public is reacting to the reality on the ground that even Tom Holman and Todd Lyons recognize.
Charlie Hurt
I think if you're going to not say that that happened, you have to go, you got to figure out why did it happen. There's unfortunately we, unfortunately we inherited this mess from Biden. Biden deliberately destroyed our border and unfortunately this is what happens.
Jessica Tarlow
You could just say that no should be locked up by.
Kayleigh McEnany
I want evidence, facts, names. Trisha McLaughlin said children were never tied up. This is a shameful and disgusting lie. She posted an example of a parody video on TikTok. Literally a parody video that was used to suggest children were zip tied. It was parody. I won't give a hard cold fact. From one of the legal documents. DHS has seen more arrests of individuals with semi automatic weapons who have assaulted, obstructed and impeded federal agents in Chicago than in LA over a two week period. ICE is under attack. DHS is under attack. And Brandon Johnson, I thought you were anti second amendment. You should be applauding semiautomatic. Weap off the streets.
Charlie Hurt
All right, up next, humanoid robots can fold your laundry. Then maybe fold you in half. Dry eyes still gritty.
Jessica Tarlow
President Trump and the first lady are currently handing out Halloween treats to kids at the White House. In the meantime, have you got $20,000 laying around? Then you can preorder Neo, the first humanoid home robot that will actually do your chores. The Wall Street Journal, testing it, doing stuff like unloading the dishwasher. Look at him go. Folding laundry. And so much more domestic work. But here's the kicker. Neo is not fully on autopilot yet. Every move it makes is still guided by a real human. A company employee wearing a VR headset. Seeing what your robot sees inside your house. I don't like that part. Greg.
Charlie Hurt
Yes. Okay, this is, this is so stupid. Do you remember the Jetson robot? Used to wear a French made outfit. That's where this is going.
Dana Perino
Rosie.
Charlie Hurt
Yeah, Rosie. Okay, they're gonna. Next thing you're gonna have. I'm gonna bring up the sex robots for a reason. Where you keep the robots? The garage. It's not something you leave out in mixed company. Oh, what's that? That's my sex robot. It's the same thing. You're going to have storage issues. If a robot can only do one or two chores. You're going to need a robot for dishes, a robot for the laundry, a robot for bed making. And why not just have kids instead? They'll do the work for you. The other thing too is intent. You're going to. Basically you're hiring an appliance to work on an appliance. You're going to have to set up the appliance for the appliance. And then in 10 years you're gonna have to get another appliance to deal with the appliance. To set up the appliance. And it's not even attractive.
Jessica Tarlow
She's not cute, Dana. That's the problem.
Dana Perino
Well, also, she moves so slowly that I would just be like, get out of my way of doing myself.
Jessica Tarlow
And Peter would wear the VR headset in the back.
Dana Perino
No Peter. I'm pretty sure that never happened.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, so you pay 20 grand and then you have to hire a servant to run the thing. I don't think it's that good of a deal. Plus, I don't want a relationship with my appliances. Like the fridge that has a computer chip or the dishwasher thing that makes sound or the washing machine that you have to negotiate with. I don't want any of that.
Jessica Tarlow
I have a wife. I was being you.
Kayleigh McEnany
Hey, I have a husband and he's great and he does a lot of wonderful things like cook me dinner. But I have five bushels of laundry right now, so I would take the robot, but I think I. Bushels. Bushels. I call them bushels. Is it bushels? Maybe Blake will get old enough to do it. Yeah. Special baskets and laundry.
Jessica Tarlow
Is that what it's called?
Kayleigh McEnany
No, it's not. It's.
Jessica Tarlow
Oh, okay. One More Thing's up next.
Dana Perino
If you're an illegal alien.
Kayleigh McEnany
It's time now for One More Thing. And it's Greg.
Charlie Hurt
Tonight we got a great show Cat. Tim Potep. Jesus. Emily Campagno. Charles Payne. That's tonight. Don't miss it. Now it's time for Greg's Where Did My Monkey Go? News hosted by Brit Hume. All right, Spirit Halloween store, let's go to it. Look at this little monkey in a diaper running wild in her Spirit Halloween store in Texas. The monkey is a pet and was brought to the store by its owner, but got spooked by the scary animatronic devices and ran away. It took 30 minutes, but the monkey was finally captured and return to its owners safely. Well, Dana, has that ever had been a problem with you being with a toy store?
Dana Perino
No, I haven't been in a toy store in quite a while and never seen a monkey on the loose.
Charlie Hurt
Oh, well, there you go.
Jessica Tarlow
Or wearing a diaper.
Kayleigh McEnany
Very cute.
Dana Perino
Or wearing a diaper. That's true. Everyone is gearing up for Halloween. We're talking about costumes. That's pretty fun. I don't have one, but Ms. Peaches. Dave Portnoy's rescue pit bull was dressed up in honor of Taylor Swift. In Life of a Showgirl. He had everything going on inspired outfit which included blue and orange dress, matching feather headpiece and he's got another new little dog. I can't remember that one's name, but he's not afraid to have a good time.
Kayleigh McEnany
Ms. Peaches. How cute.
Greg Gutfeld
He's dressed up as her as well.
Charlie Hurt
Something wrong?
Jessica Tarlow
Yes, nothing's wrong. Yes, Ms. Peaches or Dave Portman Halloween Trend continues Giant pigeon has taken over the West Village on Bethune Street. The detailed Halloween decor is pushing its head through a second story window with smaller pigeons around it. The head and its wings are held up by tension rods. Woodback weighing about 15 pounds, the homemade project took weeks to create.
Kayleigh McEnany
Very nice. Well, some news from Florida. Down to the Florida Keys we go for the pet masquerade, Bedtime stories and magical monsters was the year's theme. Highlights included Chihuahua dressed as Elvis, a pony named Elvis as the dragon from how to Train youn Dragon and more.
Greg Gutfeld
Charlie, I don't know if we have time for this, but cops became cowboys in North Dakota when two cows escaped from the trailer and ran wild. Officers lacking proper equipment made a makeshift lasso and like a scene out of City Slickers. Luckily, the lasso made it.
Charlie Hurt
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Date: October 30, 2025
Host & Panelists: Kayleigh McEnany (host), Jessica Tarlow, Charlie Hurt, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld
Podcast: FOX News Podcasts
This episode of The Five dissects the current state of Democratic leadership post-Biden, Trump’s continued influence over American politics, and the turbulent dynamics within both parties. The panel discusses everything from rumors about future Democratic candidates to reactions following the Biden and Trump administrations, viral moments and extreme rhetoric on both sides, US-China relations under Trump, and even the role of humanoid robots in daily life. The tone is lively, combative, and often irreverent, with each co-host bringing pointed opinions and humor to the hottest political stories of the day.
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Consistently energetic, pointed, and irreverent. The hosts deploy political sarcasm, direct policy criticism, and humor throughout as they analyze, debate, and occasionally lampoon opposing viewpoints.
A fast-paced, wide-ranging episode in which The Five offers both partisan analysis and cultural commentary, focusing on the fallout from recent Democratic leadership, the enduring presence of Trump, public discourse standards, and the color of American politics in the latter half of the decade.