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Dana Perino
Hello everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Lawrence Jones Kennedy, Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five.
Pete Hegseth
There's a very receptive ear to doing exactly what they're doing, taking out those boats.
Ainsley Earhardt
So to be clear, you support the decision to kill survivors after the.
Pete Hegseth
No, I support the decision to knock.
Lawrence Jones
Out the boats and whoever is piloting.
Pete Hegseth
Those boats, most of them are gone.
Dana Perino
President Trump defending his hardline stance on striking suspected drug boats in the Caribbean amid the controversy over a double tap strike strike conducted on a vessel on September 2nd. Some Democratic lawmakers seeming to downplay the threat of narco terrorism.
Jesse Watters
There is no such thing as a narco terrorist.
Lawrence Jones
But people on a boat in the middle of the Caribbean carrying cocaine are not a direct threat to the lives of our service members or Americans.
Jesse Watters
Uniform military may help save us from.
Ainsley Earhardt
And killing people in boats with outboard motors, some of which aren't even pointed towards the United States. It's a catastrophe, I think. Pete Hegseth. It's impossible to imagine. Imagine that he survives this as Secretary of Defense. I think he must resign.
Dana Perino
And now former President Barack Obama, who did face criticism over his use of deadly drone strikes. He's now weighing in on the politicization of the military.
Greg Gutfeld
I would not expect.
The politicization of the Justice Department or our military. There's been resistance, particularly in the military, to that. But the degree to which.
That has been encouraged.
You know, that used to be something that I would lecture other countries not to do.
Dana Perino
Greg, you could imagine that there are ways to raise some questions about this, but the Democrats always seem to go to where Trump wants them to, which is now they're defending narco terrorists.
Jesse Watters
First of all, it's always great to have an Obama clip. Yes, it's a nice time just to just sit back and take a nap. Maybe 10, 15 minutes, you'll wake up, he'll be finished and he'll say nothing. You don't have to listen to these people. Right? They couldn't define a woman. You expect them to define a terrorist. They always, when they realize they're wrong, they have to unwind the premise. So it's like, first, yeah, these people are bad, and then we find a process to get rid of the bad people to. So then they go, well, they really weren't that bad at all. These aren't narco terrorists. So we'll call them what you want. I mean, you call women a birthing person, you call a felon a carceral individual. What are you going to call a drug dealer, you know, a pharmaceutical entrepreneur? We don't care. We're still going to shoot him. The good news is the time between the appearance of a hoax and it's, let's say it's destruction is shrinking. I call it the hoax. Hoax gap just narrows and narrows. The story, the anonymous sources, the familiar tropes and insinuations, the breathless finger pointing. It used to last months, now it's like it lasts days. Because essentially the story was too perfect. It was kind of like the pee tape. But we've learned so much. You have a video of six Democrats warning you that something bad's gonna come your way. And then lo and behold, something bad shows up. It was gift wrapped with a bo. The card should have been from Jeffrey Epstein. It would have been perfect. So.
I guess the Dems, what you're saying is, or you said this during the break, that Trump can get the Dems to do anything, right? They will do anything to avoid being in the same space with Trump. So if you have a choice between X and Trump, and X is a recidivist criminal, an illegal alien, a trans grifter, they're always gonna choose x the 20 out of the 80, 20.
Then he ends up looking fine. They end up looking stupid.
Dana Perino
It's like Maryland. Maryland, man.
Jesse Watters
Yeah, Maryland, Dad.
Dana Perino
And they go down and there's, you know, that whole thing blew up in their faces, too.
Lawrence Jones
Yeah. Now it's the shipwreck survivor. That's what they're calling them. So General Jack Keane, who we all respect on this program, good friend of mine, said that this is not a war crime. This is standard operating procedure. So you have a target, whether the target's a boat, whether it's a tank, a facility, or a person or some combination, 25% of the time there's a re attack, 25% of the time they double tap. So in this case, what happens? They hit the thing with a missile. And then they examine the aftermath. And the aftermath shows all the kilos of the cocaine are still sitting on board on the top of the water. So what does that mean? You can come grab them and still distribute it into the United States. So they called in a second strike. Kaboom. They sunk it with the contraband. Is the Democrat policy now, for every operation, you're only allowed to use one missile. So you can only use one missile. And then you have to stop everything and you have to send in the Coast Guard and helicopters an hour or two hours away and make sure everyone's okay. That's ridiculous. And that would never happen because in 15 minutes, they're going to be on a different boat to Miami. The Democrats are such hypocrites because Obama dropped 16,000 bombs in one year on one country, Syria. He was double tapping the bejesus out of those people. He had a wedding. A wedding. No one said anything. Now, why is it okay if you can go after.
A pickup truck in a desert, but you can't hit a boat in the Caribbean? The real reason is Trump has now designated these people as terrorists. And when you do that, you change the rules of engagement. And they don't like that because they want to do the same thing that we've been doing for decades. They just want to continue to lose the war on drugs. Trump's not going to lose. Trump's actually fighting it. And how's this guy saying that narco terrorism is not a threat to the United States? Narcotics kills people. What do you think the gangs in Chicago and Los Angeles and Philly are doing? They're shooting each other over narcotics. It drives women into prostitution. It causes burglary. People abuse their wives because of it. People get addicted. It destroys families, it wreaks havoc on the United States. And not only that, the cartels are the ones that are trafficking women and children and human beings across our border. And they've grown so powerful in Latin America, they're choosing the presidents, they're bribing the presidents. And the presidents down there, some of them don't even listen to the United States. They're supposed to be our allies. But the cartels are calling the shots. So how do you think it's going to take to get China and Russia out of the hemisphere when the real power brokers are telling these people what to do down there?
Dana Perino
A poll just last week by CBS Kennedy found a majority, 53%, support the military using force to attack boats suspected of bringing drugs into the United States. So it's interesting. It's not an 8020 issue like some of these Democratic positions, but there is a clear majority so far.
Ainsley Earhardt
This one has always disturbed my moral compass for the reasons that we discussed the first time. Jesse actually brought up a really good point when he was arguing against himself accidentally when he talked about the CIA blowing up a plane full of nuns when we were going through our first round during the war on drugs. And you can bet that these narco terrorists, because I don't know why Democrats are doing this. And you made this point initially in your question. There's a way of combating narco terrorism and still disagreeing with Trump. And the fact that Democrats haven't figured that out is kind of shocking because both things can be true at the same time. Narco terrorism is real. It is all about drugs, and it is all about using violence to have a different political outcome, and that is terrorism. So those two things have been combined, and those. Those two things have been enriching the cartels since we started the war on drugs. The war on drugs has failed. And this, unfortunately, is going to fail as well. It also has the potential to upend the president's administration and his movements, because the cartels, mark my words, they're going to start putting two things on those boats, and it's not more fentanyl and cocaine. They're going to start putting children and American citizens on those boats, mark my words. And then, unfortunately, through the fog of war, they are going to be torpedoed. And you're going to have the same situation that Barack Obama found himself in when he was indiscriminately killing Americans with drone strikes. So he can absolutely sit this one out, because he does not have, you.
Jesse Watters
Get the idea about this. American citizens on the Boats, where are they coming from?
Dana Perino
The cartels would use them as shields.
Jesse Watters
But what are they getting?
Ainsley Earhardt
What does Hamas do?
Jesse Watters
No, I'm just saying. No, I'm just asking.
Ainsley Earhardt
There are. Think about all the people who have either gotten asylum, green cards, naturalization, or were born in the US but still have ties to places like Colombia and Venezuela.
Lawrence Jones
They already have reacted. Kennedy. The boats have almost stopped. The cartel boat traffic is down like 90%.
Ainsley Earhardt
With the appetite for drugs that we have in this country that we do not acknowledge enough, though I have acknowledged.
Lawrence Jones
Have to stop sniffing so much blow.
Ainsley Earhardt
Yes, that's. That's true.
Lawrence Jones
I've said that.
Jesse Watters
Yes, you say that every Friday night. And then what happens Saturday? Oh, my God.
Dana Perino
Wrap us up here.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, I just think that war is messy. It always has been messy. And I don't think average day Americans are in their homes litigating military law. They don't see it that way. They see all the stories that we've been doing on Fox of kids that have been poisoned to death. I interviewed one mom, and she lost all three of her kids to poisoning. Okay. They remember the media saying that there was only a few apartment complexes that were being taken over by the Venezuelan gangs tda, and they were torturing people in the apartment complexes. They remember in Chicago the story I did where the guy was held in his basement, tied up to death by TDA and left to die. And they see a president that's leveling the police. One of the things that is hard, and Kennedy may be right on this, but it is a casualty of war. And I think it's a cost benefit analysis. It's like that time when I was. I don't know, I was like 23 or 24. I was rolling around here in Fox, Dana, and you. I had this libertarian approach toward things about what was happening in war. And you said, hey, you weren't in the room when decisions had to be made. And that's what's happening with this Commander in Chief. Decisions have to be made. Now, the whole story about the Washington Post was a complete hoax. The headline was that Hegseth said, finish them all. And that hasn't been corroborated by anyone yet. They had one source. Now, me, personally, I don't disagree with the secretary, even if he said it, finish them all. And I think most Americans at home feel that way as well.
Dana Perino
All right, well, we are well underway here.
Jesse Watters
Are we really? We are.
Ainsley Earhardt
We are.
Dana Perino
Up next, President Trump trashes Ilhan Omar as he sends ice into Minnesota.
Lawrence Jones
Sun's coming down sky still, but.
Jesse Watters
Under President Trump's strong We've all heard.
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Greg Gutfeld
So President Trump isn't playing around anymore, cranking up immigration enforcement in Minnesota as the state reels from a billion dollar fraud scandal. Accusations that Somali immigrants siphoned off hundreds of millions in public funds. The president taking direct aim at Somali Congresswoman Ilhan Omar over the fiasco.
Pete Hegseth
She should be thrown the hell out of our country.
Jesse Watters
What the Somalian people have done to.
Pete Hegseth
Minnesota is not even believable.
Jesse Watters
It's not even believable.
Pete Hegseth
And a lot of it starts with the governor. A lot of it starts with Barack Hussein Obama.
Ainsley Earhardt
The mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, is saying that he's actually proud to have the largest Somali community in the country.
Dana Perino
And his police chief, well then he's a fool.
Ainsley Earhardt
Well, his police chief is also a fool.
Jesse Watters
I wouldn't be proud to have the largest Somalian.
Greg Gutfeld
And the Somali tribe mess is putting a big spotlight on Minnesota's liberal leaders like Governor Tim Walz, Ilhan Omar and Jacob Fry, who'd rather lash out at the president than own up to the scandal.
Ainsley Earhardt
The president's obsession with me and the Somali community is really unhealthy.
Dana Perino
It's creepy.
Ainsley Earhardt
And I hope that he gets the.
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Ainsley Earhardt
He's always been a racist, a bigot, xenophobic and Islamophobic.
Jesse Watters
Do an investigation, find out.
Lawrence Jones
But I don't think anybody in here.
Jesse Watters
Really believes their motive and their timing.
Lawrence Jones
Is about actually doing something about this much to our Somali community. Daman Shabka, Somalia Kunul, Minnesota. Garahan, Minneapolis.
Greg Gutfeld
Dana, don't you find this very lazy? Where is the outrage that they stole from the American people like you can be for immigrants, but when they steal from the American people, I think one takes priority.
Dana Perino
And they also are falling over themselves to make sure that the community is not offended. But I think it does the community no favors for the future to ignore it. And what happened is that the prosecutor in Minnesota who initially looked into this, he said people were covering this up at every level of government in Minnesota. So it's like everybody was in on it. And you know who hasn't had enough questions asked about him is Keith Ellison. Remember this guy? So he is the attorney general there. There's an actual audio recording of him meeting with representatives of Feeding Our Future who were both arrested as part of the fraud and that he asked them for political contributions. Okay. So then they can't catch people taking cookies out of the cookie jar. And then they kept putting more cookies in the jar and then pretending like nothing was happening. And then the media doesn't do anything. And again, it doesn't do. It doesn't do Minnesota any favors. Doesn't do the Somali community any favors to paper it over and act like it's not a big deal. And it reinforces for everybody that corruption is the bad seed that leaves everything terrible. Corruption is awful. I was just on mercy ships in Sierra Leone. Do you know, I was told that the local folks there's like, it's called day crew. They come on board for the day they work, and there's a prayer. Do you know what they pray for the most? The number one thing that they ask for is for corruption to stop in their country. They barely have enough food and water. Right. They are asking for the corruption to start because that is the bad seed that starts to unravel all of your rule of law. And you cannot have a country or a city or a state in which you're just ignoring it all. It will end in ruins and end in tears.
Greg Gutfeld
So, Jesse, the president says he's going to surge ICE there. Okay? That's what you do when you got illegals in the country and they stole from the American people. And then the police chief says, you call 911 as ICE shows up. Now, how is that going to go?
Lawrence Jones
Yeah, I would love to see the police confront ICE as they're pulling these Somali pirates out of their houses. That's not going to go well for anybody. I did a little research didn't want to do it, didn't need to do it, but I did.
Jesse Watters
Once you get hurt, Jesse.
Lawrence Jones
Most of the people that are Somalian in Minneapolis are either in poverty or living in the poverty line. 31% are on food stamps. 12% of them are unemployed. 80% of them don't have a high school education. Now, I accidentally watched the Will Cain show again. Didn't want to do it. Kind of just happened. He said that Somalia is the second most corrupt country in the world, and we know how violent it is. So there's a piece of immigration law, it's called the public charge rule, that we can deny residency to immigrants if they're just going to live off the dole. And this faction of Somalians in Minneapolis are living off the public dole. And not only that, they're stealing it. They're stealing a billion dollars. They got caught, and then they got caught bribing the jury with cash. And then what they did with the money, besides spending it on luxury cars and sending it, allegedly, to terrorists in Somalia, which they're under investigation for. They donated it to the Democratic Party. They donated it to Omar, they donated it to Keith Ellison, and they donated it to this guy, Jacob Fry. Now, I would like to say something in Somalian to Jacob Fry.
Dana Perino
Somali.
Lawrence Jones
Somali.
Greg Gutfeld
Just kidding.
Lawrence Jones
I'm not gonna do that. I'm not that stupid.
Greg Gutfeld
I'm dumb.
Lawrence Jones
I'm not that stupid.
Greg Gutfeld
Greg. Yes.
Lawrence Jones
You thought I was gonna do it?
Jesse Watters
Oh, I was praying you would.
Greg Gutfeld
So bad.
Jesse Watters
I get that bigger office.
Greg Gutfeld
So does Waltz get to stay in office after all this? Because he went after the whistleblowers.
Jesse Watters
I'm gonna. Oh, that's the worst thing. He intimidating the whistleblowers. There was a whole blanket kind of intimidation where if you come out against crime, you are deemed racist, bigoted. So people shut up. There's no consequences, so there's no disincentives against corruption. He won't go to jail because his defense will always be, I'm just bad at my job. I'm not a criminal. I just suck. Just like Mayorkas. It's like, everybody. He's just terrible. Mayor Bass, this horrible Mayor Jacob Small Fry, the guy, he could speak Somali, but he let his city burn. Like, what is. Remember the Mary Tyler Moore Show?
Dana Perino
Kind of.
Jesse Watters
Minneapolis.
Lawrence Jones
What happened?
Jesse Watters
Now it's more like Mary Tyler no more. But it's like, what happened to the. It was a great city. Didn't it have, like, a nickname, The Twin Cities? Yeah, it's like.
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Jesse Watters
It's so sad. And it's like, do you remember when we were first introduced to Waltz and we all were like, this can't be real. Like, are they serious? To some kind of prank? It was like when they replaced Charlie Sheen with Ashton Kutcher on Two and a Half Men. Like, what's going on? Or when they replaced Tucker with Jesse. It's like, this can't be right. This can't be right.
Oh, one last thing.
It's kind of refreshing to see Trump be able to say that stuff about Omar and not be called all these names, because that whole identity politics thing doesn't work anymore. Everybody realizes he's focusing on what she's doing, not who she is. And what does she do? She calls him a rapist. A rapist, a racist, a xenophobe. Doesn't work. A white supremacist. It doesn't work.
Greg Gutfeld
So Kennedy. It has been reported that Kamala knew about this. This was a part of the vetting, and they alerted the campaign, and they didn't do anything. She still chose him.
Ainsley Earhardt
So at least someone is doing some vetting. But it looks like whatever vetting is being done is being ignored, not only by our former vice president, who made a spectacularly awful pick in Tim Walls. And I don't know if picking Josh Shapiro would have helped her to the presidency because her incompetency hobbled her enough, but Tim Walls knew that a lot of these applications were fraudulent, and a lot of the people who were applying for asylum and residency were lying on their. They had committed crimes. I don't know if marrying your brother is a crime anywhere, especially in Minnesota anymore. But the problem is, you know, if you come from a corrupt place, and it's not even called corruption, that is the system. And then you just apply the system in the new place where you have been improperly vetted. These are the kind of outcomes that you're going to have. So it's beholden to people like Tim Walls to look at this, see the corruption, hear the whistleblowers, and do something about it. But the problem is when they're getting a billion dol in kickbacks, you know, to Jesse's point, they're not just buying cars and travel and sending remittances to terrorists. They're spending a lot of money on these Democrat candidates to make sure that they are consistently protected, that more of their family members can get into the country and create these communities. And, you know, unfortunately for the good people, the bad ones who engage in the corruption, they kind of ruin it for everybody. And the thing that I like about what President Trump's doing, I don't necessarily agree with everything he says. I hope that every second term president just doesn't gaf and says whatever they think and just stops using a filter. So at least politics and motive would be a little bit more honest.
Greg Gutfeld
It feels better.
Jesse Watters
What did she mean by jaf? Dana?
Dana Perino
I'm going in my head.
Jesse Watters
Give a Frenchie.
Lawrence Jones
Give a.
Ainsley Earhardt
That's right, give a Frenchie. French bulldog to everyone.
Jesse Watters
Yes.
Dana Perino
Work on that in the commercial break.
Greg Gutfeld
All right ahead, Hollywood is ditching Kamala for Gavin Newsom. That's next.
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Jesse Watters
Sorry, Kamala, but Hollywood's got its hands all over California's other golden geek. According to a new report, Tinseltown donors are lining up behind greasy Gap ahead of that 2028 Democratic primary, producers praising him as, quote, the fighter we need who will take no bleep from Trump. Meanwhile, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is also cooking Kamala, saying she told blatant lies about him, adding she's trying to sell books and cover her ass.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, the language.
Jesse Watters
So Danny, Josh Shapiro flexing his muscles, Is that the sign we're getting from him? Could he be the future?
Dana Perino
I think the best thing that ever happened to him is that Kamala Harris decided he was too Jewish to be on her ticket because if he had joined her ticket and she had still lost and she was going to lose after 107 days of like blowing a billion dollars, he would have been tagged with that and his political career would have been over. He has a chance to get into this race 2020. I'm excited to see the primary on the Democratic side. I think there's no two ways about it. Newsom, the governor of California had a really good 20, 25, but I think.
Jesse Watters
As opposed to California.
Dana Perino
Right. I also think it is very difficult to be the first one out. Guess who was the first one out the last time around?
Jesse Watters
Kamala.
Dana Perino
Yes.
Jesse Watters
Hey, that was a pretty good guess.
Dana Perino
There you go. That's exactly what happened. And then take. That's difficult. I think Josh Pierre also has a book coming out soon, so there's a contest to be waged.
Jesse Watters
So, Lawrence, they always make this argument about Gavin Newsom. He's like Trump because he fights, but there's a difference. What's he fighting for? We don't know. Except for himself, maybe.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, and his fight is not him. He changes every single day. And I think what they fail to acknowledge is that Trump changed national politics. So you got to be yourself. Yeah, you got to be yourself. Whatever you decide, whatever position you're going to. I don't like Zahra Mandami. At least he's authentically himself. He's not trying to be this character of someone else. I think Democrats need to be very cautious with Gavin Newsom because a man. All politicians lie, but the capacity that he lies, it eventually catches up to you. I mean, I remember doing the fires. He's walking the street, and he's talking with folks, and this woman comes up to him, and she goes, you know, what are you gonna do about this? He goes, I'm talking to the President of the United States right now. He has the phone.
Jesse Watters
Yeah.
Greg Gutfeld
And she goes, well, let me speak to him. He goes, I actually just died.
Jesse Watters
Yeah, right.
Greg Gutfeld
I mean, you would hate for that to happen on the debate stage, because then the campaign is over. That moment will come if you decide he's gonna be your nominee.
Jesse Watters
Yeah. You know, Kenny, it's not really a good sign for Gav if Hollywood gets behind you. They've been pretty much wrong on everything, and. And their opinions don't count for much these days.
Ainsley Earhardt
Well, that's why they want to go with the alpha, because they didn't the last three cycles.
Jesse Watters
No white male.
Ainsley Earhardt
They picked Hillary because, you know, I'm with her. The future is female. There's a special place in hell who don't. For women who don't vote for the female candidate. And then, you know, they pick Joe Biden, and then they're forced to go with Kamala, and, you know, that that's three losers in a row. So they're trying to get ahead of it and trying to pick the guy that they think is going to be the Alpha male and dominate the race. Unfortunately, his record will be the thing that dominates when people get on the debate stage because he will be eviscerated. He is a good debater. He is a clever person. He is very, very greasy. And he has a lot of very, very upset former big donors who lost their homes in Pacific Palisades and Malibu. And this governor is doing nothing to help families who have been displaced for almost a year now. We're one month shy of the year anniversary of those fires. And these were all Democrats, these were all liberal West Siders. And they have not forgotten because they cannot go back home. And that's because Gavin Newsom is making sure that the insurance commission is siding with the insur insurance companies who, if they're paying anything, it's pennies on the dollar. So Southern Californians have always hated Gavin Newsom. They just want a win, and it's very unprincipled. And I agree with your point. The first one out, the tallest blade of grass is the first to meet the mower.
Jesse Watters
Well, I'm going to use that later tonight. Jesse. Hot tub. You know, here's the thing, though, Jesse. We really don't know what issue is going to shape kind of the environment in two years. Could be anything could be radically different. AI could change everything. Is this just a bunch of a waste of our time? Shouldn't we go back to the green room?
Lawrence Jones
Well, we still are getting paid.
Jesse Watters
Yeah.
Lawrence Jones
I mean, it doesn't matter, really. We'll talk about anything. And I want to say one thing that has to be said. You look like the Pope.
Jesse Watters
Oh, I do. Thank you.
Lawrence Jones
You do? Pope.
Gavin destroyed California. But that's a good thing if you're a Democrat. Destruction's the key.
Jesse Watters
Yeah.
Lawrence Jones
They want Gavin to destroy the country just like he did the state of California. They want open borders, they want homelessness, they want drugs, they want crime. That's the goal is to attack Western civilization. So that's not really gonna hurt them in the Democrat primary. It's actually kind of gonna help them. And what's Kamala gonna say? She was a California girl the whole time. They both destroyed it.
Jesse Watters
Yeah.
Lawrence Jones
So there's no argument there.
Jesse Watters
That's right. She can't point fingers at him because then, get this, four will be pointing back at her. I just came up with that.
Greg Gutfeld
That's pretty good.
Jesse Watters
Yeah. Pretty good. Thank you. You're welcome. All right ahead, Sabrina Carpenter, my ex, is slamming the White House for using her song.
Lawrence Jones
Here's something you.
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Lawrence Jones
Sabrina Carpenter is not impressed, though, with Trump's dhs, though, after they used one of her songs in this video about immigration enforcement.
Jesse Watters
Have you ever tried this one?
Ainsley Earhardt
Have you ever tried this one? Have you ever tried this one?
Lawrence Jones
Carpenter calling it evil and disgusting. And the White House is clapping back, saying this here's a short and sweet message for Sabrina Carpenter. We won't apologize for deporting dangerous criminal, illegal murderers, rapists and pedophiles from our country. Anyone who would defend these sick monsters must be stupid. Or is it slow?
Dana, you're a big, big, big Sabrina Carpenter fan. What happened here?
Dana Perino
Well, look, I don't think there's ever any benefit in the fighting on this one with the big celebrity, and I. She's got a constituency and a fan base. She's wildly successful. Some of her lyrics are like, wow. Like, when I hear it on Peloton.
I can't believe she just said that.
Lawrence Jones
She looks kind of naughty.
Dana Perino
The other thing.
Lawrence Jones
Is she naughty?
Dana Perino
Oh, yeah.
Ainsley Earhardt
You seen her album cover?
Lawrence Jones
No. Punch up her album cover.
Jesse Watters
Punch up.
Dana Perino
Let's punch up the album cover. The other thing is this.
Ainsley Earhardt
I.
Jesse Watters
This is AM radio.
Dana Perino
This is Wednesday. I mentioned this yesterday that, like, aside from the Trump accounts that we've been talking about this week, we're not talking about affordability. We're not talking about the things that the American people.
Lawrence Jones
Well, Trump did today, he said he's going to lower a car.
Jesse Watters
Sick of Dana saying, here's what we're not talking about. No, you know what? Here's what we're not talking about. Sabrina Carpenter. Every time we talk about her, every time we talk about affordability, we're not talking about Sabrina Carpenter.
Dana Perino
You want to talk about her?
Jesse Watters
Well, here's the thing is, I'm not into the celebrity aspect. I'm into the phase of life. Think about, okay, like, look at her. As opposed to a representative of women her age, single, no kids, no responsibilities, they have yet to experience any transformative event that would inform their beliefs. So the things that she detests today, she will learn and understand to value later. Like we all have. I mean, how many times I mean, not you, Lawrence, because you're still like 18. But how many times? Like when you. When you hit 40 and you go like, God, if I only knew this in my 20s. God, think about all the stuff. Because it could have been about work. It could have been about relationships, smoking. Like, I wish I didn't smoke for 10 years. Could be about skipping school. I wish I went to school. More preventable injuries. I should have worn a helmet, Dana. I told you that. But she has. But they don't know that. That I'm talking primarily young women. And you have daughters, you know that. They don't. They don't know until they know. It's the transformative experience that then they go back and they go, God, what was I thinking? Why was I yet spitting at a police officer? I love the police. They make sure my kids are safe. You know what I'm saying?
Greg Gutfeld
I think you're half right. Except for a celebrity.
It'S a little different. And so every time I want to have some compassion, I say, okay, it's her song. Maybe she's upset about her song. Then I go back and I say, okay, let me go into Instagram, YouTube or something and see their comment. When Lakin was murdered or Americans were held hostage, or when the border was overrun by 20 million people. And when I don't find anything, my level of compassion for them and trying to see their side vanishes. I think she should have just ignored it. That's the problem with the left. Just ignore the President. Just ignore him. And they can't do that.
Dana Perino
Yeah, Sydney Sweeney ignored him.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Jesse Watters
Yeah.
Lawrence Jones
Now she's doing very well. We'll have a report on Sydney Sweeney.
Jesse Watters
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Lawrence Jones
It's an hour special. It actually costs money by Larry Kudlow.
Jesse Watters
Which is such an odd combination.
Lawrence Jones
From the hot tub.
Jesse Watters
Yeah, from the hot tub.
Lawrence Jones
Got it. Kennedy.
Ainsley Earhardt
Well, she wears the jeans in the hot tub, which, you know, it just shows how versatile the American Eagle product really is. Sabrina Carpenter. She has been in deep yogurt with feminists because, you know, we tried to punch up the album cover. Jesse couldn't do it because it's too raunchy. She's on all fours like a dog wearing a man is presumably holding a leash and he's got a handful of her hair. Oh, and she's also doing some pretty, pretty graphic stuff on stage that is mimicking how babies are brought into the world.
Lawrence Jones
Oh, she did the stork.
Jesse Watters
This is not what I expect from somebody named Sabrina.
Ainsley Earhardt
Yeah.
Jesse Watters
Or somebody who's a carpenter.
Dana Perino
I know.
Ainsley Earhardt
And she is still at 411 taller than Greg.
Dana Perino
Really?
Jesse Watters
She's that tall?
Is she really four' eleven? That's hilarious.
Ainsley Earhardt
She could be a gymnast.
Jesse Watters
Wow.
Ainsley Earhardt
If she wouldn't flapping her mouth all the time.
Lawrence Jones
Guys, guys. We're not talking about affordability. Come on.
Dana Perino
Knock yourself out.
Lawrence Jones
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Jesse Watters
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Dana Perino
Really gotta hold on me.
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Ainsley Earhardt
Hello and welcome back. Well, here's a newfangled way the kids are courting each other. Gen zers are now live streaming their dates with a new platform called Cupid. With a K. A 24. 7 dating show that never ends.
Dana Perino
Watch you CS major.
Ainsley Earhardt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dana Perino
Can you do C?
Jesse Watters
Of course I know C. Hey, can.
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Jesse Watters
Of course I can build you a website.
Dana Perino
Wait, you just became ten times more attractive.
Ainsley Earhardt
Dana, did you think that you were going to experience a new layer of health?
Dana Perino
I love being married to Peter. It has enhanced my life. My best piece of advice I give to everybody is that choosing to be loved is not a career limiting decision. Find your person, make a commitment and enjoy that part of your life. And I don't want to judge these young people for how they're going to be. I hope that this works for somebody. I Look, I don't want to sound like super old and be like that sounds crazy to me. And I would never do that. But maybe, maybe I'm just kind of out of touch.
Ainsley Earhardt
But they watch shows like 90 Day Fiance and Love Island. They become obsessed with them. So they want to emulate what they're seeing. And they also. Jesse, this is going to blow your mind because I know the twins at some point are going to go to college. So now young women in college have a site called the Tea where they post pictures of guys and then women, they comment on the guy if they have dated them and either give a red flag or a green Flag.
Lawrence Jones
Okay, well, that sounds illegal because what men do on dates is not subject for public humiliation. Some people, like Greg, have problems. Some people call them dysfunctions, and now there's medicine for that. But you don't want to shame a guy for having very.
Jesse Watters
This is my impression of Epstein at the deposition.
Lawrence Jones
So true. It does look like Epstein.
Jesse Watters
And it goes like this. And takes his mic off when he leaves.
Lawrence Jones
You know, this is the best part about the show. You don't have to talk about what the subject is. You can just do Epstein impressions.
Jesse Watters
Here's my theory. Okay? We keep talking about these new platforms. What if it's not about the platform at all? What if it's about information that is just waiting for us to create these interfaces, that we are just wanting this information to come out? It's an evolution of information. We just want this stuff. It's just that we have to keep inventing platforms to let it out.
Lawrence Jones
I do want to see how that date ends.
Jesse Watters
Those aren't dates, though. They're not even together. They're not even together.
Ainsley Earhardt
She's in Florida. He's in Georgia.
Jesse Watters
It's not a real date.
Lawrence Jones
Oh, and they're not even.
Ainsley Earhardt
Georgia is not going to win this weekend.
Jesse Watters
It should be called strip dating.
Ainsley Earhardt
Alabama's going to win.
Dana Perino
I'm not wrong about that. Now that I'd watch.
Jesse Watters
Me too.
Greg Gutfeld
It's kind of dumb. I don't know any real guy that's going to subscribe to this. You don't want to have the conversations dragging on from you. Just don't do that.
Lawrence Jones
You're right.
Greg Gutfeld
You just don't do the best. Especially when I was in college, but more power to them.
Ainsley Earhardt
Yeah. Reality shows all benefit from editing, don't they?
Greg Gutfeld
Exactly.
Jesse Watters
People are boring.
Dana Perino
People are boring.
Jesse Watters
One more time.
Ainsley Earhardt
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Dana Perino
Stay with us.
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Dana Perino
That'S what I was gonna say. Where does this go?
Lawrence Jones
So, yeah, Pete, if you're watching.
Dana Perino
The Santa is not an excuse.
Lawrence Jones
Wait. Tonight, Jesse Waters primetime, we have Kayleigh McEnany, the Stephen Miller, Ron DeSantis and Katrina Campens.
Dana Perino
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Jesse Watters
All right, tonight we got a great show. Comedian Dave Landau, the great Ben Shapiro, Cat Tiffan tires. That's a strong one. Tonight at 10pm let's do this. Greg's Upside Down Sea lion news with Bridge Hume. It's good to be back on the five. You guys don't have me on enough. Let's go to this sea line at point to find Brazil in Washington state. Now, if you notice, the sea lion is underneath. Yeah, it's actually underneath a floating device there. And he doesn't seem to mind, much like my good friend Vaughn Williams doesn't mind. And very appealing, Molly Hemingway. Thanks to their flexible spines, sea lions are incredible swimmers and love to twist, flip and glide underwater. That's it for me. I'm heading to the hot tub with Guy Benson.
Ainsley Earhardt
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All right, I'm gonna go next. Greg, I thought you would really like to know about this. The police in New Zealand are playing a waiting game for some evidence after catching a thief who decided to swallow his loot. That's a Faberge egg. Guys tried smuggling it out of an Auckland store and then he swallowed it. It's a $20,000 jewel. It features 18 karat gold octopus surrounded by over 183 diamonds. And they're waiting for that thing to come on out.
Jesse Watters
Wow. They're giving him some laxatives.
Dana Perino
We'll see.
Jesse Watters
That's what the ER does.
Dana Perino
That's right, Kennedy.
Ainsley Earhardt
Yeah, that's going to hurt when it opens up on the exit. All right, well, you know, we all maybe had a ban over Thanksgiving, and this raccoon is no exception. At a Virginia liquor store, he went on a rager, a bender, fell through the ceiling tiles, tore into the booze. Oh, boy, he really messed the place up. And then he passed out on the bathroom floor like many of us.
Dana Perino
Okay, Lawrence, that's wild.
Greg Gutfeld
All right, check out this video. In Arizona, a bear somehow climbed a utility pole and got stuck. Risking being shocked, they had to use a stick to try to to convince him to get down. After a tense moment, the bear slid slave flee off the pole, ran back into the wild completely unharmed. He actually climbed another pole.
Lawrence Jones
Oh, look at him go.
Dana Perino
Wow, that bear could be watching up another pole. Yeah. I mean, come on. That's kind of dangerous. Didn't we do that as one more thing yesterday?
Jesse Watters
Jessica's gonna be so mad that we're talking about poles and she's not here.
Dana Perino
And then, you know, there's Bret Baer that we have to think about.
Jesse Watters
Ah, he loves a good pole. He'll climb any pole he can.
Ainsley Earhardt
He doesn't get electrocuted, but he does.
Dana Perino
Electrify Y We always get in trouble.
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Episode: Trump: Support The Decision To Knock Out The Boats
Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Dana Perino, Lawrence Jones, Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld, Ainsley Earhardt, Pete Hegseth
Podcast: The Five – FOX News Podcasts
This lively episode of "The Five" centers on several hot-button political issues in the U.S.: former President Donald Trump’s endorsement of military strikes against suspected narco-trafficking boats, broader debates over the war on drugs and military engagement, a deep dive into Somali immigration and alleged fraud scandals in Minnesota, Hollywood's shifting political alliances, and a pop culture skirmish involving singer Sabrina Carpenter and the White House. The hosts deliver sharp, sometimes irreverent commentary, interspersed with memorable jokes and heated exchanges.
[02:00–13:14]
[02:00] Pete Hegseth reiterates support for "knocking out boats" trafficking drugs, clarifying he supports targeting the vessels and their operators.
“There’s a very receptive ear to doing exactly what they’re doing, taking out those boats.” – Pete Hegseth [02:00]
[02:18] Dana Perino ties Trump’s stance to a recent controversial strike, highlighting political and media reactions.
[03:01] Barack Obama enters the conversation: the hosts play a clip where he warns about politicizing the military, to which Greg Gutfeld reacts skeptically.
"You expect them to define a terrorist? …You call a felon a carceral individual. What are you going to call a drug dealer, a pharmaceutical entrepreneur? We don't care. We’re still going to shoot him." – Jesse Watters [03:54]
[05:25] Jesse Watters argues Trump can set traps for Democrats, forcing them to take unpopular or contradictory positions.
[06:01] Lawrence Jones references General Jack Keane, stating double tap strikes are "standard operating procedure" and rebuffs the notion this is a war crime.
“This is not a war crime. This is standard operating procedure. …25% of the time, they double tap.” – Lawrence Jones [06:01]
[07:38] The discussion shifts to drug violence in American cities, the power of cartels, and the argument that narco-terrorism threatens U.S. society and sovereignty.
[08:54] Dana Perino cites a poll showing 53% of Americans support military use of force against suspected drug boats.
[09:12] Ainsley Earhardt highlights the war on drugs’ moral and practical complications and predicts cartels may use hostages to foil U.S. interdictions.
“They’re going to start putting children and American citizens on those boats, mark my words. …You’re going to have the same situation that Barack Obama found himself in when he was indiscriminately killing Americans with drone strikes.” – Ainsley Earhardt [09:12]
[11:15] Lawrence Jones claims cartel boat traffic has "almost stopped" since Trump’s escalated actions.
[13:01] Greg Gutfeld frames the situation as a harsh "cost-benefit analysis," arguing Americans support tough measures on drug traffickers.
[14:42–24:10]
[15:01] Trump’s rhetoric: “She should be thrown the hell out of our country.” – Pete Hegseth [15:01]
[15:42] Ainsley Earhardt reads Omar’s response accusing Trump of xenophobia.
[16:33] Dana Perino shares a story from Sierra Leone about how corruption undermines societies at every level, paralleling it with the Minnesota case.
"Corruption is the bad seed that leaves everything terrible. Corruption is awful." – Dana Perino [16:33]
[18:23] Lawrence Jones runs through statistics on Somali Americans in Minneapolis, tying poverty and lack of education to alleged public assistance fraud and terrorist financing.
[20:12] The hosts criticize Minnesota leadership, especially Governor Tim Walz, for allegedly intimidating whistleblowers and claim the community votes and donates to protect corrupt actors.
"There was a whole blanket kind of intimidation where if you come out against crime, you are deemed racist, bigoted. So people shut up." – Jesse Watters [20:18]
[22:10] Ainsley Earhardt and others debate how a culture of corruption can be imported through improper vetting, calling for honest discourse even while acknowledging the complexity for honest immigrants.
“If you come from a corrupt place, and it’s not even called corruption, that is the system. And then you just apply the system in the new place where you have been improperly vetted." – Ainsley Earhardt [22:20]
[25:35–30:53]
[31:21–36:58]
[37:58–41:06]
Gen Z’s penchant for live-streaming their dates and rating partners on anonymous forums (The Tea) is considered by the hosts as risky, legally questionable, and culturally foreign.
Dana Perino takes a pragmatic view on traditional relationships, counseling young people to find love but avoiding judgment; Lawrence Jones and others mock the public humiliation of dating reviews.
[39:30] Lawrence Jones: “That sounds illegal because what men do on dates is not subject for public humiliation.”
[40:05] Jesse Watters theorizes that the desire for information is driving the creation of new platforms, not vice versa.
[41:37–44:48]
For listeners new to the episode, this summary captures the central arguments, political jabs, memorable commentary, and colorful exchanges that define “The Five’s” approach to contemporary issues.