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Dana Perino
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Kennedy, Jessica Tarlov, Joey Jones and Tom Shalhou. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. President Trump bringing the fight against communism to America's 250th birthday celebrations. 47 Railing against the rise of socialism in the Democratic Party while declaring that it will never take hold in the United States.
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Joey Jones
We don't want communists in our country. Communism is a loser and it always will be. The communist system is the opposite of the American system and the communist system has never worked. Our warriors did not fight communism on battlefields across the world only to have that menace rear its ugly head right back here in America. We're not going to let it happen.
- [00:58]
Dana Perino
But Democrats are at a crossroads as socialism is gaining steam in the party and potential 2028 hopeful California Governor Gavin Newsom. He says that Democrats can't afford to turn away support even from self described
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Tom Shalhou
socialists gone for addition, not subtraction. The Democratic Party needs to be in the addition business if we're going to
- [01:20]
Joey Jones
get back into the majority.
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Tom Shalhou
I'm not offended by this notion of a big tent. And I think it's important though, that big tent is a big tent because there's folks, you know, on this side that don't want folks on that. I just, I think we'd be better off to look at the things that bind us together, the things we have in common.
- [01:37]
Dana Perino
But not all Democrat leaders are cowering to the party's progressive wing. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is making it clear that he's not on the socialist bandwagon and even distance himself from New York's rising star, Darieliza Chevalier.
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Tom Shalhou
Her district voted for her, but I have profound differences from that particular candidate, you know, based on the citations that you read there. And she's not someone, you know, who seemingly I would agree with on many things or that we share similar values.
- [02:14]
Dana Perino
All right, are we ready for a great week, America? We are, Jessica. One of the things that Gavin Newsom said is we're for addition, not subtraction. But in the last several primaries where the socialists have moved forward, I think it has been narrowing because the key piece that has separated the new ones from the old ones, it's not Medicare for All, it's not even abolish ice. It's that we don't want to support Israel and it's like an anti Semitic thing. So it's like actually a narrowing of the party. I don't see where Gavin Newsom thinks that it's growing it.
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Joey Jones
I think that what he's saying, if these new Democratic socialists play ball come midterms, which I'm not sure that they will necessarily, because we have seen people either support the nominee like Abdullah Sayed in 2024. He said, you know, Kamala Harris isn't perfect, but this is our best chance at defeating the Republicans and actually getting some control here. I there are others that have been less committal. And you can see a world in which they're not going to be supporting Hakeem Jeffries for speaker, for instance. Or we get around to 2028 and they use that power flex. Right. By saying, well, we're not going to support this one. We would only support this one.
- [03:24]
Dana Perino
And vote as a bloc.
- [03:25]
Joey Jones
Exactly. Or try to garner as much of a block as they can. The issue right now is that that block is garnering a lot of media coverage, but it's still not that many in technical terms, the ones winning these elections. And when all the primaries are said and done, we'll see how many of them are actually winning in districts that are competitive. Right now, they're winning in D 50 seats. Right. So they're turning something that was blue a little bit bluer. And I think that Gavin Newsom is trying to be careful about it. You don't want to alienate one, especially someone, especially someone with a huge social media platform that's going to be coming after you. But I am curious to see. And the story is unfolding, but Politico has reported that there is a credible allegation of sexual assault against Graham Platner. He posted a video which sure sounds like he's dropping out. He says the allegations are false, but I want to make sure that we beat Susan Collins. Production markets, everyone thinks that he's headed out the door. We would have another week for that to happen and then two weeks to pick a new nominee. And I'm curious to see if that turns into a conversation around the vetting that has happened on the far left here, that if you know Chuck Schumer saying, I want to get anyone, Jared golden won't do it. I'll take Janet Mills then was right. And that this guy is too flawed of a candidate to be running them. And if any of that blows back on the people who said no, stick with him no matter what. Tattoos, lighter, allegations of sexual or domestic violence, etc. So that is going to be, I think, the new frontier that's brewing.
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Dana Perino
Kennedy, Governor Shapiro, he is basically saying, let's push back against this and he would have reason to. His house was almost burned down with his family inside it.
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Kennedy
Yes.
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Dana Perino
For this kind of radicalism.
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Kennedy
Yes. So his. His small tent was almost burned to the ground by the people who have called for the destruction of, you know, politicians like Josh Shapiro, who I'm guessing happens to be a Zionist. And, you know, he's finally pushing back against this insane worldview where you have a group of people whose entire political. Political movement is based on envy and. And other. A zero sum proposition that a bunch of other people have stuff that would be yours if we had a better system of distribution. And that's what they were promising. And, you know, that's the part of socialism that dovetails with communism, because anywhere they try the redistribution gambit, it does not work. It fails miserably. It fails by force, and it fails by footsteps. You know, they try it in North Korea, people starve to death. They try it in France, they billionaires leave. That is the tax base. That is the thing you absolutely need in order to hold up the laundry list of stuff. It is untenable. It is impractical. And Josh Shapiro appears to be one of the more practical, rational Democrats. So what he's betting on is perhaps he doesn't have to compromise his political integrity to stand up for what he knows, what is right. And, you know, and maybe that will benefit him as more independents move into that big tent. Those are the people that Gavin Newsom
- [06:39]
Dana Perino
should be going after.
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Kennedy
It's not the progressives. They hate all of them, like Hakeem Jeffries. I cannot believe the idiocy of someone who is on the precipice of losing his job. And he will do that in short order. If enough of these socialists are voted into Congress, that will happen, and they will do that gleefully. So, you know, I hope there are more people like Josh Shapiro, truth tellers, Democrats, Republicans and Independents, because this country desperately needs that.
- [07:07]
Dana Perino
Yeah, Hakeem Jeffries was just like, I'll blow it off. I'm not going to lose sleep over it. That's another lane to take. Tom, when you talk about communism and socialism and the words, I almost feel like the communism piece in some ways is landing well, but not necessarily in others. And partly, I think it's generational.
- [07:27]
Tom Shalhou
It is generational. That's why it was interesting. If you look at the Trump speech, he uses the communism thing a lot, but he goes on several levels. So he says, oh, the commies are coming. We beat them, we went to war against the commies, and we would do it Again, but we don't have to. And then he would say, never work, never will. See, that's the message that young people need to hear. That's kind of the Charlie Kirk type of message. He used to go all around and people would say, what about communism? It's never been tried. And he says, it has never worked on a big scale. It's never worked on a small scale. And he would prove it out that way. I thought President Trump, it's great the way he, you know, when he gives his speech, you can see the speech and then you see the bold face. You know, like during the speech, he kept saying the lightning. He said it like China, he says, and we beat the lightning. Then he has his aside. So he said his bit about communism, and then he said, it never worked. It never will. And then he said, communism is for losers. We don't want it. You know, so it's like working on many different levels, obviously. I mean, Gavin Newsom, ridiculous, with his big tent. They're in the tent, Gavin. They're in the tent. They're coming for you. They lit the tent on fire. Everyone is choking, and you're about to die of asphyxiation. You gotta order them out of the tent, not make room for them in the tent, because they don't want you in their tent.
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Kennedy
He loves tents.
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Joey Jones
Look at all the homeless people in California.
- [08:44]
Kennedy
He adores tents.
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Tom Shalhou
He wants a nice dome tent. But I don't even think Shapiro was strong enough on this. I mean, he wimped out his last statement. He said, you know, well, the voters voted for her to represent them. I think he's got to come out harder and say, you're out. We don't want you in our party.
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Dana Perino
Like, what happens, Joey, if they don't fight? If you're not fighting back against it, then you're accepting it.
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Jessica Tarlov
You're talking about Democrats fighting back against. Well, I just want to propose to you, Jessica, I understand a couple of things here. One, it's not intellectually dishonest to jump to communism when criticizing this because in their own words, Mandani says, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it, you know, just statewide house housing guarantee is preferable to what is going on now. Darlisa Chevalier. Sorry, I'm trying to say her name correctly.
- [09:29]
Dana Perino
Let's call her dac.
- [09:31]
Jessica Tarlov
She had dozens, almost hundreds of posts either praising communism, espousing communism, and talking about the abolition of private property. The key difference between socialism and communism is that socialism is the path to communism. In that socialism takes on industry, production, leaves some things to private ownership. And communism is when you get all the way there. So it's not intellectually dishonest to say, hey, these Democrat socialists are espousing communist views. They're just using a different headline. But the reason why that is so important, I mean, you even have Jayapal, I think it was this week, praising Cuba's, you know, their education system and their health care system. That is a communist country, by the way. Just so everyone understands we're on the same page here. But the reason why this is so important is because there is an absolute disenfranchisement among especially young Democrats. They do not believe in the establishment that they have. If you want to know how powerful a handful of folks in Congress can be, ask Kevin McCarthy. It doesn't take much, especially the way things are broken down right now. It takes a handful. And you're talking about three here in New York City, not counting the rest of the squad or if I don't know, Cori Bush finds her way back in over in Missouri. And so, you know, this isn't a small group of people. This is the mayor of New York City. That is a big deal. Three more members of Congress, others around the country. There's someone running for governor of, I believe it's Wisconsin right now who's. And so she's using this idea of data centers to try to pull away some of the disenfranchised Trump voters. So there is an appeal there among people who feel like either the capitalist system or the current government has left them behind. And if they can manipulate a thread that brings those together, it is something to be of concern. And the Democrats have a chance to stop it long before Republicans do because it's showing its ugly head in the Democrat Party. But at the end of the day, power is what they want. So if that's their path to power, they'll step aside and take on that moniker, I guess, as well.
- [11:23]
Dana Perino
All right, coming up, the rain wasn't the only thing trying to wash out America's 250th. Hollywood celebrities and Chuck Todd think President Trump ruined the celebration.
- [11:40]
Tom Shalhou
Think about you, baby.
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Dana Perino
51 5.
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Tom Shalhou
Just a side a local. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at foxnewswineshop.com with code FNRADIO20. 20% discount includes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31, 2026. Must be 21 or older. To order, please drink responsibly. Even a storm couldn't stop America 250 celebrations. Our very own Dana Perino taking shelter with veterans as thunderstorms rolled through the capital. But they didn't let a little bad weather dampen the celebration with one of the most dazzling fireworks displays in American history. Democrats, on the other hand, they didn't need a storm to rain on America's parade. Here's Chuck Todd crying like a little baby, blaming President Trump for spoiling the Fourth.
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Jessica Tarlov
For some people, the central text in their lives is religious, and I respect that. For me, the Constitution has always carried that kind of weight. So that's why I'm so angry and feel betrayed. I do. I feel betrayed as an American by him on this. Not because I love the country less, but because I love the idea of America enough to resent seeing it cheapened by this man.
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Tom Shalhou
America deserved better. At 250, Donald Trump has ruined the American brand and the American birthday celebration. And celebrities like Mark Ruffalo passed on the beach in the barbecue to spend their fourth reading from a book on tyranny. Do not obey in advance.
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Dana Perino
Beware of the one party state.
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Jessica Tarlov
Investigate, make eye contact and small talk. Establish a private life. Be courageous. That said.
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Tom Shalhou
Oh, who do we want to start with? What celebrities? How about bouncy Chuck Todd? Dana?
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Dana Perino
Yeah, that was weird. Can I, can I just tell you about Saturday night just a little bit? So we were on air, ready to do the coverage, but then there was a. It wasn't, there wasn't a weather delay because of rain. People can handle rain. It was a lightning. So we evacuate. We go to this trailer. We nicknamed it the Freedom Bunker. And I was the first one in. And I walk. And here's all the heroes, 11 of them, ages 99 to 107 from the best Defense Foundation.org, bDF.org, brought all of them. They had just taken many of them to Normandy. The idea of BDF is they take the veterans to their last battle and that way it's Joe, you could probably speak to this. But it's very healing for them, like a full circle moment. And they were. I didn't know that the president was going to have them in the speech. The most patient people in the room were those guys. And this photograph right here was shared with us by Freedom250. And that's all of the veterans watching the fireworks from their own memorial, a memorial that was actually quite controversial to get built. And I love those guys. That was the best thing that ever happened to me on a Fourth of July is to spend it with them. I would do it again in a heartbeat. I absolutely love them. So we just got our cameras out. Wi Fi worked. We were able to get on air. Harris was interviewing the acapella singers that were there. Brian Kilmeade sat with a veteran who's saying God bless America to everybody. It was incredible. So then in challenging, the heat was punishing, the weather was difficult. But when those fireworks started, I know I will never see anything that spectacular again in my life. Unbelievable. Absolutely beautiful. Incredible. So I'm watching this and I'm trying to put myself in Chuck Todd's shoes. Not directly. Not directly.
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Joey Jones
Very bouncy.
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Dana Perino
I don't want. Not the bouncy shoes. And I don't see how President Trump could have ruined your 4th of July unless you choose to be dour, unhappy. And if you choose to live that way and to only look at the glass half empty, maybe you could get there. But to me, that means that you. I don't talk about TDS too often, but it seems to me that it is alive and well in his brain.
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Tom Shalhou
Absolutely.
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Joey Jones
Joey.
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Tom Shalhou
There was a recent survey. We talked about it on the air on different shows here. The Democrats not proud to be Americans. 92% of Republicans proud to be an American. Right. And then I looked back, I said, I gotta find that same poll in 2012. Right in the middle of the Obama era, right? Democrats 75% proud to be an American. Then Republicans 92, the exact same number. Does that surprise you?
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Jessica Tarlov
Well, you know, for one, 2012, that we said that was a generation ago at this point, things changed so much. No, it doesn't surprise me, though, because I think that there's a certain, you know, like, Democrats have relinquished patriotism to Republicans, and then they say that Republicans have hijacked it in some way. It's not the Republican Party espousing views for socialism and communism. It's not the Republican Party saying. And Jessica, I will allow that this isn't every Democrat or even the mainstream. But it's not the Republican Party saying that we are colonizers and that we are oppressors and that our country is inherently evil, not just for its original sin, but from before its founding through today. That is a Democrat Party talking point. Rather, they put it front and center at a convention or they allow the periphery of the party to say it in colleges and places of that nature. It's a part of the Democrat platform. It's how they woo young voters. And it's incredibly important right now to them with social Democrat socialists, that is communists coming on board and gaining momentum. One thing I will say, Dan, is, you know, I kind of am jealous of Those World War II veterans or even Vietnam veterans, because if you took me to my last battle, it would be my next battle. You know, thanks Biden. Anyway, so, you know, so at least, you know they can do that and there's some healing there. But with all that being said, listen, no matter who they are, no matter what they believe, no matter how purple their hair is or how much of a tackle box is hanging from their face or what their T shirt says, no matter how lost to this ideology you may think they are, if they are young, they're still reachable. They still have a lifetime of experiences to go out and do. Don't shun them, don't cuss at them, don't create arguments with them, especially if they're in your family and friend group. Love on them and show them the way. Tell them how amazing freedom is and capitalism is and what a beautiful country this is. Bring them to grandpa, That's World War II veteran. Bring them to the uncle, that's the Vietnam veteran that has fought and suffered so much to protect this country and show them the way they're still reachable. And that's a good fourth of July week message.
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Dana Perino
Sweet thing to say.
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Jessica Tarlov
Don't let it, don't let them be lost.
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Tom Shalhou
Truly beautiful. Jessica. Don't Democrats spend too much time thinking about Trump? I mean, this is why you had so many Democrats saying they were not proud to be an American. Cuz they can't. They go to bed thinking about Trump. They wake up thinking about him. Chuck Todd, he can't stop thinking about Trump.
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Joey Jones
Trump also can't stop talking and we can't stop covering him. So it's in our faces. But you know that the news cycle is different than it ever was before 2016 changed that. And you know, for whatever reason, some of it is actually legitimate news that needs to be covered and some of it is just to keep people, you know, clicking the algorithm, you know, the algorithm juicing and to keep our attention. And then you can put more ads on. You do all this stuff, right? And we're all hooked on it, the good and the bad, right? The outrage with Trump works both ways. He is the most animating factor. He's a turnout machine in both directions. And so everyone is benefiting from it. I thought that some of the scenes from the fourth of July were just gorgeous. What Dana is talking about, looking at Those veterans. I saw many hundreds of thousands of people turn out, which is different from during the week. Obviously, people wanted to be there for the Fourth. They wanted to come and see Donald Trump's speech. I do think, though, that having Freedom 250 versus America 250 was, I would say, a mistake, but it was definitely a choice that Donald Trump made and then allowed for people to say he's taking over the Fourth of July. When you have a bipartisan group that is in charge of the holiday and then you do your own thing, which is very much in service to you. And your speech is laced with patriotism about honoring our heroes and NASA, but also with attacks against your political opponents, which. The socialists and Communists. He's talking about us, right? It's not an amorphous thing. He's talking about his political enemies and you're talking about the Save America act and that if you just get it passed.
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Dana Perino
But if you took the Save America act out, I don't think it was that political. But what you just said is that it goes back to the A block. If he's targeting you, are you the socialists and the communists? That's a. He's making a distinction for you. You guys should take him up on it.
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Joey Jones
Well, I, I believe that I have. I'm a big believer.
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Dana Perino
Well, you just said that he's attacking his political enemies. Like, if that's not you, if you're not the socialists and the communists, but. And they're aside, then he's not attacking
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Joey Jones
who he is attacking people who are members of my political party writ large. Well, they're Democrats.
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Dana Perino
Okay, that goes back to the A
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Joey Jones
block, but that is politics because we're going to go vote in November for the midterms and again in 2028. And it is the same attack line that they've been using forever, where they just say we're the ones who believe in capitalism. And these yahoos over here who, by the way, it gets worse than just calling us Communists. You talk about the name calling and asking us about our patriotism. He regularly calls Democrats traitors and scum.
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Dana Perino
Talking about that night and that speech, and he didn't do that in that speech.
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Joey Jones
Well, I think that. I guess I take it personally. Right.
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Dana Perino
Because then again, that's a choice. And the choice is if you are not a socialist or a. If I were a Democrat, if I were Kim Jeffries or Chuck Schumer, I'd be like, damn right, sir. That's right. We're not for Communism and we're not for socialism, and take him up on it and run with it. Instead, say, why are you attacking us? These are people in our party. And if that's the case, then they're in your party. And so when Harold. Or you say, well, they're not really a part of the party, I'm like, well, I don't think we can say that anymore.
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Joey Jones
Socialists are, but Communists are not. And people have said Darieliza doesn't have a place in it. And I would also say past Fourth of July celebrations, when, like, Obama and Biden, they would do it on the south lawn, have 5,000 people, there would be military members and service members, turn turning it into what is a rally. The same thing happened at the Teddy Roosevelt at the library there, where he also talked about the Save America Act. And that Republicans wouldn't lose an election for 100 years is inherently politicized.
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Kennedy
He's gonna be president for 100 years. It feels like that he's gonna. They're gonna reanimate him. He's gonna live. He's Lazarus. He's never going away. You'll have to force him out with tanks and generals and smelling salts. And he's still gonna stay and he's still gonna be president. And J.D. vance is his love child. Like, you know, these are all the things that Democrats torture themselves with. And it's a losing proposition. This is why socialists are winning. This is why socialists slash Communists are winning. Because Democrats have ceded all the territory to being terrified of Donald Trump, who is not going to be president. After two years, he will no longer be president. But that's all you can talk about. That's all you can think about. That's all you hyper fixate on. And I was wondering when this was going to manifest because I knew this was secretly driving them crazy, that he gets to be president during 250, which is a big deal. That's why you don't have it on the South Lawn. You have it as big as possible with as many fireworks and as many veterans watching in these phenomenal places, creating pictures that you cannot replicate under any circumstances ever again. And that's Great. That's a 250. Should be go big or go home. Guess what? This is your home, and we love you here. To Joey's point, if you disagree with us, America is still an awesome place, and it's an awesome place for you. And guess what? You have the opportunity to make it even better. And if you don't want to think about Trump, don't think about Trump. Stay off Social media.
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Dana Perino
We went to a Yankees game.
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Kennedy
There was some horrible baseball, but my goodness, the veterans, the flags, the ymca, it was all there. And no one was talking about Trump. And I looked like a rodeo clown. And it was one of the best days of my life outside of politics completely. You can do it. I believe in you.
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Dana Perino
You can do it, America.
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Tom Shalhou
I'm marching in Place Kennedy. Okay, up next, red card. More like red tape. Find out how President Trump just saved America's World cup dreams.
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Jessica Tarlov
Well, I can't wait till I move to the city.
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Tom Shalhou
Till I finally make up my mind.
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Dana Perino
From nine to design. Watch me break. Hello, all you World Cup Karens can
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Kennedy
suck it, because President Trump is Saving America's soccer dreams. 47. Confirming reports that he indeed spoke to FIFA president Gianni Infantino after US Star striker Flo Baligun was slapped the red card in last week's win over Bosnia. Accused of cleaning another player's heel aggressively and with intent. It's a suspension that would have signed sidelined him for Tonight's Round of 16 matchup against Belgium. Yeah, the President telling the media he didn't twist any arms. All he did was have a perfect phone call.
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Joey Jones
This referee who is a little bit suspect if you check his. If you check his past. I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but very suspect. All I did, I asked for a review because I didn't think it was a foul. I didn't know what the hell a red card was. When I found out, I said, you got to be kidding. All I did was ask for a review. I didn't say, you have to do this.
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Kennedy
That's all I did, just ask for a review. But some liberals would rather see America lose than let Trump give Team USA a basic assist. Watch.
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Dana Perino
Europeans are saying things like, I can't
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Tom Shalhou
believe America is so corrupt.
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Joey Jones
I'm like, have you met the Trump administration?
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Tom Shalhou
This certainly helps the US on the
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Jessica Tarlov
field, but the karma is bad. The karma is very bad.
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Tom Shalhou
Last night, England got a red card. Unfortunately, they don't have a sitting prime minister who's going to put the call in to FIFA to get it revoked. It does destroy the integrity of the competition. There is no doubt.
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Kennedy
Maybe if Keir Starmer were a little cooler to President Trump, he'd help you guys out there. Dana, what were you going to say?
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Dana Perino
Well, what was when he said destroying the credibility or the integrity of the game? No, what did that was the false red card. That's the original sin. And there is one. One There is precedent. Cristiano Ronaldo happened to him. There was an appeal made, and they're like, actually on review. You're right. He didn't deserve a red card. Cristiano plays. When it happened to Flo, it seemed very personal against him. It was overreaction. And after that match, let's say after the World cup, if you went to every Belgian and said, do you think that was deserving a red card?
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Kennedy
Do you?
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Dana Perino
Do you? Do you? And they would all say, no, not really. And so what happened is, okay, the president says, johnny, what's going on? Now, that's a little bit maybe like the Mafia guy saying, you're going to pay your bill. And they're like, yes, sir. I don't necessarily think that that's true. Because on the merits, everybody agreed that the original sin was the problem. And there is a way to address it in the FIFA World cup, whatever the sports authorities, and you gotta check this and that. But also, yeah, so President Trump was like, johnny, what's going on? America is here. We are playing well, and then this happened, and it's not fair. So is anybody going to do anything about it? And he says, okay, I will. I agree. I don't think that the integrity of the game is hurt by pointing out that the original sin was the problem.
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Kennedy
Yeah, no, that is what hurts the integrity of the game. I mean, that's when people go, oh, these. These refs, they've got it in for the United States. Yeah, they just want to make sure that we lose. They're taking out our star player. So if that were the case, then if I were Belgium, I would be like, I hope the suspension is appealed and I hope he plays. Because we want to play your very best team. We want to see your best team on the field. We surprised by Belgium's reaction.
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Jessica Tarlov
No, listen, it's. I mean, it's Europe. You know, all this does is it reinforces to me the superiority of American football. Because what I saw on the screen right there, like, you get up and shake that off. If you try to come off the field with an injury like that in American football, your coach is going to laugh at you and send you back out. I don't know where they get their toughness, and I get that we get to wear pads in football, but Lord help, that's what you're crying about. That's what you're getting a whole game suspension for. In American football, we have something called targeting, which could break people's necks and backs. And the worst you get is you have to sit out the rest of the game, or if it's the second half, you sit out the first half of the next game. So it seems to me like they're just a little soft. I was all about soccer for a little while, but now, now this has happened. I realize the superiority really does lie here in American sports, college football specifically. And so I wish them all well. I hope U.S. continues to win, but my appeal to this tournament has dropped dramatically. I mean, and also, it wouldn't help if Britain had a prime minister, a sitting prime minister, because they don't have any power to pick up the phone and call and do anything. We are the most powerful country in the world, and why not? What is the use in developing and creating and sacrificing for that power if you can't use it to fix the most egregious wrongs, like whatever. A red card.
- [29:00]
Dana Perino
President Trump should do a flyover over the stadium tonight just before the game.
- [29:03]
Kennedy
Just like, see ya with Peanut the squirrel. Jessica, I know that you are a massive sports fan and you have been following the World cup, and I appreciate that about you. It's one of my very favorite things about you is we can talk about so much other than politics, but now this has to be political as well.
- [29:22]
Joey Jones
No, I don't think it has to be that political. And I have seen some of the posts from Americans saying, well, now I'm rooting for Belgium. You look ridiculous. If you're doing something like that, you can talk about what happened and the precedent it might be setting for this. Like, France, they got a yellow card in their last game, and now they're appealing it, and they're gonna say, well, why did this get overturned? I know that the guy won your Peace Prize, but, like, we have a really good claim to why this should happen, and that's going to keep snowballing and happening. We are, though, talking FIFA, which is one of the more corrupt organizations on the planet, and everyone has known that for a little while. They also know that Donald Trump likes to operate a bit like a Mafioso. So it is not surprising that he called up and said, I know everything about sports, though I didn't know what a red card was somehow. And could you look into it? Howard Lucknick was apparently working the phones as well. I don't know how that all went. Flo Baligan took that red card in such incredible stride and with such poise. And his comments afterwards where he just said that it's unfair, but it's something I have to Accept and move forward from. I want to be a good example. This is how the rules work. This is the call that we got, I thought was really inspirational. And, you know, on the other side, I liked what the American coach said where he said, the real injustice is that we had to play a man down for what, 35 minutes when this happened, and we still managed to pull it out. So it's unconventional what just happened here. But don't give me this. It's unfair because what happened to us in the first place, like Dana said, it was the original sin in it. So I think you can be both things, but you should not be for Belgium tonight. We're all for America.
- [31:02]
Kennedy
See, Jessica Tarlov.
- [31:03]
Joey Jones
I told you.
- [31:03]
Kennedy
I told you. She's a real American, Tom.
- [31:06]
Tom Shalhou
That's right. And I think we can learn something from American hockey. Okay, I don't like all this. The red card, yellow card, it's a bunch of nonsense. And like a whole game. You take this guy out, Jack Hughes
- [31:18]
Kennedy
still has a bloody mouth, Tom.
- [31:19]
Tom Shalhou
Right, look, hockey, you go to the penalty box, they should have a penalty box. Two minutes in the penalty box for fighting. If it's a real bad fight, these guys pound each other's faces and there's teeth all over the ice. Five minutes and then they get back in the game. Right? So nonsense, this thing about what he spent a half hour out of. Out of this, the rest of the game, and then he's got another game. So the red card is not totally revoked. He's still on probation for this other game.
- [31:44]
Dana Perino
Yeah, it was suspended.
- [31:46]
Tom Shalhou
Suspended, yes, his punishment was suspended, but the red card is still hanging over his head.
- [31:51]
Kennedy
He gets caught shorting the the Spaniard sheets, he's in real trouble.
- [31:55]
Dana Perino
Will he start tonight? Kennedy?
- [31:57]
Joey Jones
Yes.
- [31:57]
Dana Perino
Oh, yeah, he is. He's. Let's go.
- [31:59]
Kennedy
The guy, he has scored in every game. He's been phenomenal.
- [32:03]
Dana Perino
Let's go float.
- [32:04]
Kennedy
So much fun to watch.
- [32:05]
Joey Jones
Birthright citizenship miracle.
- [32:07]
Kennedy
Yes. He was born in Brooklyn because his
- [32:09]
Joey Jones
mom was allowed on a flight.
- [32:11]
Kennedy
Mom was over seven months pregnant and flight attendants would not let her board the flight. So she had her beautiful star athlete son right here in these United States. Another reason this country is so phenomenal. Coming up next, you belong with a husband, Taylor Swift, or rather Taylor Kelce, about to become America's greatest trad wife. That's not.
- [32:45]
Tom Shalhou
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- [33:07]
Joey Jones
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- [33:22]
Jessica Tarlov
All right, the world is still buzzing about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's reported $20 million wedding at Madison Square Garden. And now Forbes says we may be witnessing a, quote, Taylor Swift bridal bump. All right, it says the knots projecting 2.2 billion in incremental global wedding spend over the next two years and 400 million in adjacent event spend due to a phenomenon it calls the swiftification of weddings.
- [33:54]
Joey Jones
Oh, wow.
- [33:54]
Kennedy
Okay.
- [33:54]
Jessica Tarlov
All right, well, Dana, I'll go to you first.
- [33:56]
Dana Perino
I'm sorry, I keep. I must have a lot to say. I feel jet lag for the weekend. So I'm still talking. First of all, first of all, I don't know if the whole world is still buzzing about it, to be honest. Maybe a little bit. I don't know. But you know who didn't say anything about it? President Trump. Oh, not a word. And if you think about how they have sparred in the past, or he's gone after her, it's like he's gonna let that one lie, right? And she can have her thing. And he had America 250. And there was that. Here's the thing. If you wanna get married, I'm all for it. I am for the coupling up. I want it and I want the commitments. I think it's great. But here's, girls, you do not have to spend a lot of money on your wedding. You just don't. I got married at the Courthouse. Been married 29 years, almost 30 years. And the other thing is, they apparently had like the most complicated prenup in American history, or maybe in the history of the world. A prenup is not going to save your marriage. A marriage is built on the mutual trust. And as Barbara Bush once said, when I asked her, what is the secret to a happy marriage, she said, each person has to be willing to go 65% of the way.
- [34:56]
Joey Jones
They.
- [34:58]
Dana Perino
And if you're willing to do that, then you won't even have to worry about a prenup. You don't have to spend a lot of money on your wedding.
- [35:03]
Jessica Tarlov
Tom Travis Kelsey is worth around $100 million. Taylor Swift is worth about $2 billion. Some people have made a thing out of that. I couldn't spend $100 million if you gave me the rest of my life to do it. I don't think it's really a thing, but I do think it's probably something that has made love hard for Taylor Swift to find, because it is you. Puts you in a. In a class of access that no one else can really surmount to. Besides maybe someone as popular as Travis Kelsey.
- [35:28]
Tom Shalhou
Can you believe it? He's got $100 million, and he's still. He's never gonna get out of her shadow. I feel bad for the guy. I just looked him up. I thought they were like, 30. They're both 36.
- [35:39]
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah.
- [35:39]
Tom Shalhou
You don't have much time, guys. Have some babies and get on it.
- [35:44]
Kennedy
They have plenty of time. They have the best fertility doctors in the world.
- [35:47]
Tom Shalhou
Listen, Kendi, they're, you know, they're not that trad. They're kind of old and, you know, they should just get going and get out of the spotlight. Everybody's already sick of both of you.
- [36:00]
Jessica Tarlov
Kennedy, if looks could kill.
- [36:01]
Kennedy
I'm getting married next month. I've actually learned a lot from this wedding. We're not having any fake trees. We are having a buffet. And I don't feel bad about it for a second. That was one of the things that. That was one of the complaints that was reported by Daily Mail. Love you guys. And I think a buffet is a wonderful option for a wedding. You get to eat when you want
- [36:21]
Joey Jones
as much as you want, and you don't have to wait for somebody like,
- [36:23]
Dana Perino
can I clear your plate?
- [36:25]
Kennedy
No. Load it up. I love you. I'm throwing as much booze as I can down your throat, but very few of you.
- [36:31]
Jessica Tarlov
Jessica.
- [36:32]
Joey Jones
I'm very excited about Kennedy's impending nuptials and hope another baby will be on their way very soon.
- [36:39]
Kennedy
We're going to wait a little while, travel few years.
- [36:42]
Joey Jones
You have all the time in the world. Don't you worry. I will just say that Taylor Swift is always. If you listen to her music, this was always her destiny. She has been chasing the dream, the marriage dream, forever. An incredibly funny episode of Travis Kelsey and his brother's podcast with Colin Jost, where they talk about how they're all the least famous member of their marriages and, like, what it's like to travel around with Scarlett Johansson and Taylor Swift and Kylie Kelce, who's a big star in her own right.
- [37:12]
Jessica Tarlov
Well, I Wish them all the best and I hope they get to it so we can.
- [37:15]
Dana Perino
Do you want to talk about this again tomorrow?
- [37:16]
Jessica Tarlov
No. This is me stopping talking about it. All right. The Fastest is up next,
- [37:32]
Joey Jones
And we're
- [37:32]
Tom Shalhou
live on Matchday as Doug reaches for a buffalo wing.
- [37:36]
Kennedy
He's got it.
- [37:37]
Dana Perino
Oh, and he's gone for a can of Pepsi, too.
- [37:39]
Kennedy
What a finish.
- [37:41]
Tom Shalhou
There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better. Match Days deserve Pepsi.
- [37:54]
Joey Jones
I am lucky. Welcome back. Does more free time actually make you happier? A new study says not really. So what does make people happier? One to two hours of socializing, physical exercise, or up to about six hours of work? Kennedy, I like this. We should be socializing more.
- [38:11]
Kennedy
That sounds like a great day. I mean, that sounds like a wonderful day. Yeah, you work out, you get your sweat on in the morning, go have a nice long brunch with friends, and you work for six hours. That whoever responded to the study has life figured out. That is the template we should all be following.
- [38:26]
Joey Jones
And it was the Census Bureau. What do you think, Joey?
- [38:29]
Jessica Tarlov
I agree with the exercising. I mean, social. I only socialize at work, and half the time I'm getting pissed off. So I don't know if that's what does it. But maybe I need better socializing skills. I don't know.
- [38:39]
Joey Jones
Maybe.
- [38:40]
Dana Perino
Are you mad now? Are you pissed off right now at me?
- [38:43]
Jessica Tarlov
No. No.
- [38:44]
Joey Jones
I've never been mad.
- [38:44]
I mean, it would be at me.
- [38:45]
Kennedy
No.
- [38:46]
Dana Perino
You know, because I can't stand it when somebody's mad. What they just described is Spain. This is a life in Spain is why people think, oh, that's why I want to go live there. But I also think downtime is just, like, hard to fill for me. But I don't. I think of socializing as downtime. Otherwise, I'm usually working.
- [39:06]
Tom Shalhou
Tom, this art. This article got it all wrong because it's defining leisure time as slothful activities. It says leisure's bad for you. It says doom scrolling binge watch. That's not leisure. No, that's like being a lazy bump. And then it said you should do things like hiking and sailing and all this. That's leisure time. Okay, so they just. Whoever wrote this article is a sloth.
- [39:31]
Dana Perino
You mean it's another summer story and we fell for it again.
- [39:34]
Tom Shalhou
I mean, I. It's.
- [39:35]
Dana Perino
The conclusions are correcting the role of Gutfeld very well.
- [39:37]
Joey Jones
I know.
- [39:38]
Tom Shalhou
Well, trying to do it. Trying to sit.
- [39:39]
Dana Perino
I'm glad you're here.
- [39:43]
Joey Jones
He was thinking it. One more thing's up.
- [39:58]
Dana Perino
It's Time for one more thing. I'll go first and wish a very happy birthday to former President bush. He is 80 today and we wish him very well. Hope he had a good time with friends and family. Also, I had a podcast today, Purino, on politics with Adam Scheidler. You guys want to listen to this? He's super, super smart on messaging, especially on visuals. So that is just posted and it's up now.
- [40:21]
Kennedy
Jessica.
- [40:22]
Joey Jones
Great. I just wanted to take a moment to pay tribute to a huge fan of the Five who passed away suddenly the day before he was to serve as grand marshal of the Brookside Fourth of July Parade in New Jersey. Evan Thomas, affectionately known as Buzzy, served his community as a volunteer firefighter for nearly 50 years. Emergency management leader in Mendham Township, New Jersey. His volunteerism, service to others and love for both his own community and the Fox family were admirable. That was his Facebook photo. Him and Jesse rest in peace, Buzzy.
- [40:50]
Jessica Tarlov
We love you, Buzzy. Absolutely.
- [40:53]
Dana Perino
So sorry to hear about that. All right, Kennedy, you're going to be on Gutfeld.
- [40:57]
Kennedy
I will. I'll be on Gutfeld tonight. Are you going to be on Gutfeld?
- [40:59]
Tom Shalhou
No, not tonight.
- [41:00]
Dana Perino
Not tonight. Well, Tom, we look forward to the next time you're on.
- [41:04]
Tom Shalhou
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