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Dana Perino
Over to the Five.
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Hello everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Kennedy, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the Vibe and it is the fourth day of the deadly conflict between Israel and Iran. President Trump is talking to the press at the G7 and we are monitoring that for any big news. In the meantime, let's go to Mike Tobin. He can give us a quick catch up from Tel Aviv. Hi Mike.
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Mike Tobin
Hi Dana. Iran is now interested in de escalation and a return to the negotiating table with the condition that the U.S. stays out of the fight. The U.S. for its part, is now sending the USS Nimitz carrier strike group to the region ahead of schedule. There was a strike during a live broadcast of Iranian state TV and what I can show you now is video of the aftermath of the state TV building in Tehran on fire. Israel, for its part, did send a warning into the area warning people to evacuate ahead of that backup location. Israel's Prime Minister says Israeli jets can now do whatever they want in the skies over Tehran.
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Greg Gutfeld
The Israeli Air Force controls the skies over Tehran. This changes the entire campaign. We are on the way to achieving our two goals, eliminating the nuclear threat and eliminating the missile threat.
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Mike Tobin
We have new video of Iranian F14s on the ground being taken out by Israeli airstrikes. Iran purchased those F14s before the Islamic Revolution in 1979. We also have satellite images of missile production and nuclear facilities before and after Israeli airstrikes. Israel says one third of Iran's missile launchers have now been destroyed. We keep getting warnings out of Iranian state TV and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard that drone strikes and missile strikes are inbound to Israel, but thus far they haven't materialized. It doesn't mean they won't but we usually get credible warnings from Israel's home front command, and we haven't had that yet this evening. Dana.
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Dana Perino
All right, Mike Tobin, thank you. Stay safe. And we will continue on with this. The big headline today is Iran ready to wave the white flag and cry uncle. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Iran is seeking talks with the US And Israel to end the hostilities. President Trump out with world leaders at the G7 in Canada and once again imploring Iran to make a deal before it's too late.
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Jesse Waters
Mr. President, have you seen, have you heard any signals or seen any messages from intermediaries that Iran wishes to de escalate the conflict?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, they'd like to talk, but they should have done that before. I had 60 days and they had 60 days. And on the 61st day I said, we don't have a deal. They have to make a deal. And it's painful for both parties, but I'd say Iran is not winning this war and they should talk and they should talk immediately before it's too late.
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Dana Perino
Jesse, President Trump has been consistent for 10 years that Iran should not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and letting Israel do what it thinks it needs to do to protect itself.
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Right. So we're pretty involved already. We greenlit the operation. Obviously we're intercepting all the missiles that Iran's sending over and we have shared intelligence and are doing refueling flights. The question is how much more involved are we going to get? And so a few scenarios. One, if the Iranians attack US Assets, we'll have to get involved. The question is whether we're going to give or use bunker busting bombs to completely eliminate the Iranian nuclear program or if we'll authorize regime change strikes against the leadership. And I think the balance that Trump's trying to strike is you can't allow the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon. It's been almost 100 years of US policy, non proliferation. You can't get blackmailed by rogue states. But also you can't have regime change wars, and those have unintended consequences. So if you were to have a decapitation strike against the Iranian leadership, what comes next? Because it's a theocracy and you have 30,000 radical Muslim clerics that are still there. You can't kill all of them. So does it break down into militia factions where they all just kill each other? Do we install somebody? Do people come from all over the region with guns? Is there an insurgency? No one knows. And so the Israelis have their own agenda. They want this guy gone. Now, does that agenda jive with our agenda? Maybe not, because they're not going to be the ones to manage the chaos. We're going to have to manage the chaos and they know that and that's fine. But we've already overthrown an Iranian leader before we installed the Shah. And he was a great ally for many years and he pumped oil and he was fantastic against the Soviets. But he was so unpopular, he was overthrown by these even more fundamental radical people who we're still dealing with today. The big question is, is the Iranian nuke deal still possible? Now the Israelis say no. They call them fake talks. They think they're going nowhere and we're getting strong along. Donald Trump disagrees. He thinks there can be a deal that is put together and at this point the Iranians have no leverage. And so it looks like they're kind of begging to come back to the negotiating table. And Donald Trump isn't ready to do the deal yet. I think he's going to let the Israeli military continue to soften up Iranian targets as they finally limp back to the negotiation table and swear off enrichment. And that would be a great outcome if they swear off enrichment. But I don't know if that's even possible because the Iranians saw what happened to Gaddafi. Remember after Saddam was toppled, Gaddafi was like, all right, we'll get rid of the nukes and the next thing you know, Hillary and the Europeans came in and took him out. So very delicate situation. The next couple days will be pretty serious.
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And the iaea, which I guess it's basically the international organization that text checks on nuclear enrichment, just last week they said that Iran is in total non compliance. Harold. And at the same time, the Israelis said we underestimated our enemy on October 7th and we can't afford to do it again because they're closer than ever to a nuclear weapon. So now the stage is set. In the meantime, though, we still have we. Israel has 53 hostages still in Gaza.
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Greg Gutfeld
So good to be back around the table. Hope everyone had a productive and happy Father's Day weekend. Jesse, you framed it fairly well. I think the only thing I would add to what you eloquently said is two things. First, we're going to be confronted as a nation very soon with whether or not we should provide the wherewithal and the resources. We're the ones with the munition and that bunker busting bomb that you talked about that would be used to blow up a half a mile under earth there, the mountain that We've identified that these rallies have identified. I'm a believer that we should, if the Israelis believe that's what's needed to put an end to this. I listened to Mr. Netanyahu, who I'm not always a fan of, but I listened to him on Sunday and had a chance to react to him on Bret Baier's show. Brett did a really good interview. I thought Mr. Netanyahu was convincing. He made two points there. He said, first, the slumber of democracy. He invoked Churchill talking about, when democracies get lazy, they get content. This is when these kind of evil things happen. We have a moment here to stop this. He also spoke to the Iranian people and spoke to the Persian people and said, look, the Israelis and the Persian people have had a great relationship over many centuries. There's no reason going forward, if we get past this ugly and unfortunate chapter, that we can't do the same going forward. Now, I understand, Dana, some of the concerns that Democrat and Republican politicians, including some supporters of President Trump, have about broadening this war, because the real risk here is the escalation of the war. Jack Keane said something I thought very, very telling over the weekend as well and even repeated on our network today. He said that the army, navy and air force of the Iranians had been diminished and weakened, and that the leadership of their army, navy and air force are diminished and poor as well. And if we're thinking about the moment in a way to put an end to this, this might be the moment to do it. I remember when there were those who were saying we should have supplied more support and more resources for the Ukrainians against the Russians. President Trump often says that had he been president, that never would have happened. Russia would have never invaded Ukraine. And I assume he meant that he would have provided more resources and tools for the Ukrainians. I think we're at that moment now, Dana, with this Iranian, Israeli conflict. I don't want a broadening of the conflict. I don't want an escalation. I think the president of Turkey and others are right. We're on a precipice. But what I don't want to have happen going forward is this risk and threat that the Iranians pose. And what you offered, what you led into this question about, they have lied about their preparation, their ability, ability to develop and detonate a nuclear weapon. I don't want that. And if, even if the IAEA is wrong, I'm willing to take the risk. If we have this moment now, we should destroy this capability of the Iranians.
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Dana Perino
Kennedy, I feel like President Trump doesn't get credit for something else. It's a key part of this story, but it's a smaller part of the story and it's that first of all, Israel did degrade the capabilities of Hezbollah and Hamas. And then you have President Trump in the Middle east just two weeks ago making friends, making allies and recognizing the new Syrian government to the point that yesterday, not when this started four days ago, Lebanon said we're staying out of it. And then Syria yesterday, you can use our airspace. And if you just hold that thought because we have a new sound from President Trump. He was just asked about the possibility of regime change in Iran. And we can listen to that and then we'll come back around to Kennedy.
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Kennedy
President, do you see a regime change in Iran?
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Donald Trump
I want to see no nuclear weapon in Iran and we're well on our way to making sure that happens.
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Dana Perino
And a short comment, Kennedy, I wasn't sure how long that would be. Your thoughts?
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Jesse Waters
Yes, I think he shares that sentiment with the entire Western world. No one wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon because, you know, this is not the era of detente, of mutually assured destruction where, you know, there were countries stockpiling nuclear weapons for defensive reasons. Iran has talked about going on the offense and part of the existence of this regime is the desire to annihilate Israel, you know, which is right next door. Think about it. What if Canada talked? What if the reason for being for Canada was to destroy and obliterate the United States? I was recently on a Holocaust tour in Poland and we visited the extermination camps. And you know, that took years for Nazi Germany to exterminate 6 million Jews and 3 million Catholic Poles. Iran wants to do what Hitler started with one bomb. And that's the fear. So Israel has started this and now what the United States has to ask itself, are we going to be the ones who finish it? Because it will. If you're talking about the main enriching site for uranium, the Fordow site, that will take the kind of bunker buster that Israel does not have. I spoke to a former Navy SEALS senior chief and he said yes, Israel does have bunker busting bombs, but not the massive type where it'll take a pair with a B2 bomber in order to completely obliterate that facility. That is a possibility. If the United States wants to get involved. Iran does not want the US to get involved because they know it is not only the end of their nuclear program but also their petroleum program as well. So what does Iran have left. What they're clinging onto now is the desperate hope they will, with some of their other Middle east partners, be able to move forward capitalistic in a way that takes them out of petroleum, but but into the economic future. They can't do that as an authoritarian theocratic regime relying solely on oil.
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Kennedy
Gutfeld, this is a tough one, you know. Is Trump's actions a violation of the Trump Doctrine, which is America First? I think that's the debate that's kind of raging among the right. But you elected Trump because you trust him. He's been consistent on everything, pretty much everything here and there. He's directionally consistent. I don't remember him being for any wars. He was outspoken about most of them. So I think to say, oh, now he's a neocon is unfair. He wouldn't do this unless he thought it had to be done. So you kind of have to give him the benefit of the doubt, which you cannot do with Iran. Iran is like the T1000, you know, in the second Terminator movie. You knock it down, you knock down its nuclear capabilities and it reconstitute itself. And so your only hope is that you make the time it takes to reconstitute longer and longer. You're not kicking the can down the road, you're kicking Tehran down the road. And it's like, whether or not you want to do it now.
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Dana Perino
You know.
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Kennedy
You have to weigh the benefits. I don't want to sound wishy washy, but, you know, it's all about frame of reference. You know, Israel has the Holocaust. That is their frame of reference. This is not going to happen again. You know, if Israel was around before, there wouldn't have been a holocaust. But then the other frame of reference is Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan. We were promised an end to that. So somehow you've got to, like, start from fresh with this and try to push the backstory of history off on the side. I don't know if that's possible, but if you're gonna trust somebody, I would trust Trump and not Iran. That's where I'm at.
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Dana Perino
In addition, I would trust the Middle east allies that he met with who are pretty quiet about all of this happening and not unhappy about it, as reported, apparently. Okay. Up next, anti ice chaos erupting again in Los Angeles as President Trump launches a new immigration crackdown in Democrat le cities.
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Greg Gutfeld
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Harold Ford Jr.
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Jesse Waters
Well, it's a very incendiary party. Well, how's this for California love? Los Angeles seeing another round of mostly peaceful fires as President Trump announces plans to flood other Democrat run cities, New York and Chicago, with new larger waves of ICE agents. Here's 47 to elaborate on that plan. Watch.
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Greg Gutfeld
You did a post last night where you said you want ICE to really target Democrats.
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Donald Trump
I want them to focus on the cities because the cities are where you really have what's called sanctuary cities and that's where the people are. I look at New York, I look at Chicago, I mean, you got a really bad governor in Chicago and a bad mayor, but the governor's probably the worst in the country. Biden allowed 21 million people to come into our country. Of that vast numbers of those people were murderers, killers, people from gangs, people from jails. They emptied their jails out into the U.S. most of those people are in the cities, all blue cities, all Democrat run cities, and they think they're going to use them to vote. It's not going to happen.
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Jesse Waters
All right, so Jesse, it feels like both these sides, the blue state mayors of sanctuary cities and the president with his immigration agenda, they have been on a collision course with disaster. Could these riots have been averted maybe earlier, maybe a few years ago?
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Dana Perino
Of course, I mean, they say they want the criminals out, but then they shelter them in the sanctuary cities and they say they're not voting. But then anytime you try to pass voter id, they're like, oh no, you can't, it's racist. And then they say, oh well, you know, these people aren't here to take American jobs. And they're like, you can't deport them. Who's gonna wash my lettuce? Nothing the Democrats are saying is consistent. Now Donald Trump has to target the cities, cuz that's where they're clustered. But he also has to go after the job sites because that's gonna get a lot of attention and it's gonna make bosses not wanna hire illegals. They just did a raid at a site in Oklahoma, I think it was a meat processing plant, and they swept up a bunch of illegals and, and the next week they posted job openings and they got overwhelmed with resumes from Americans because Americans will do these jobs if you just Pay them a fair wage. Remember during the pandemic, we used to do segments about how this was like a workers market and all these wages were going up and these companies couldn't find anybody. And like, you could have your choice where you wanted to work and what benefits. You know what happened? Biden let in 20 million illegals and it just dropped the wages to the dirt. And then it's like economic treason to do that. So you have to really make sure American wages go up so they can buy cable TV news subscriptions, because that's what this is really all about.
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Jesse Waters
All right, so, Harold, in, in Texas, they don't have sanctuary cities, but they do. They do have a lot of immigrants coming over the border. It's a lot easier to access some of the bigger cities like San Antonio and Houston, but they don't have to call them themselves sanctuary city. And they're more cooperative with law enforcement. So why can't California adopt the Texas model?
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Greg Gutfeld
I don't know. They probably should. Couple things. Here I am for I'm a part of the majority of Americans, overwhelming majority of Americans, who want to deport people who have come to this country illegally, who are committing crimes. The data shows thus far that less than 10% of the people we've deported so far have criminal records. Now they have a criminal record because they're here illegally, but have a criminal record. The president, I think, often says, and rightly says that these countries have released the worst of the worst in their countries. And these people have come here and we have seen awful, just tragic, ugly crimes, fatal crimes committed by. Committed by illegal immigrants. That's where. And I think a lot of the country throughout the election, one of the reasons I think the president won because people thought he was going to. That would be the model. First, number one, I hope they continue to do that. And I think even his, the President's own Secretary of Agriculture has come forward to say that. We've got to think about the lettuce pickers. We've got to think about those who are. Who are farmers in our country, who presumably are from red states. Now, last, I don't like the red state, blue state thing. I don't care where you are. If you are an illegal immigrant here and you're committing a crime, you shouldn't be treated differently if you do it in a red state versus a blue state. And I think the president, I understand what he's saying and I get the politics of it, but I would just encourage him not to talk about blue state. This and Red state, that if there are people here who are here illegally, regardless of where they are, and they're committing crimes, you're going to continue to garner, generate big, big support even from Democrats to get these people out of here. Now, there are questions about what's happening in Los Angeles, should the military be there, how it should be done. But I am one Democrat who firmly believes that Mr. Homan ought to do exactly what he said from the outset, which was to go after the worst first. You do that, you will continue to enjoy broad, broad support. But when you start going after workers, people who are working on farms, people who are working in restaurants, people who are working in retail stores, that's where I think the President's going to face some resistance. And the numbers suggest that that indeed is happening.
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Jesse Waters
And Karen Bass, she's another politician who could have handled this differently. And, you know, now she's complaining that the President won't pick up her phone, and she's surprised by some of the ICE raids. But to Harold's point, doesn't 80% of the country want the worst to be taken out first?
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Dana Perino
And I think the White House is smart to keep the focus on the worst first efforts. And I don't even think President Trump needs to say blue cities run by Democrats. He could just say, in America's largest cities, where the, where illegal immigrants and gang members are gathered, that's where we're going to focus first. But however I say that, and then at the same time, I think, but why shouldn't he point out the leadership? Because it's what people have voted for that have landed themselves in these situations in these cities. And we have a mayor's race going on right now in the city where there's a hot and heavy debate about what is the direction of the country going to be. And I don't think, you know, the President is so transparent. You can't pick up any, you pick up any media organization. He has been willing to talk to everybody this week about immigration, about Iran, whatever it is. And then you have Gavin Newsom. So he was on the New York Times podcast, it's called the Daily, last week, and he was defending those who are here in the country illegally, but who haven't gotten in trouble since. Okay, but this is the real dividing line, which is, do you think coming to the, into the country without permission and without doing it legally, does that mean you have broken a law? And yes, I think fundamentally, two plus two is four, then that's how you get to that point. But that's why I think this worst first thing makes a lot of sense and change and fixes takes time. People, anytime there's something new and something disruptive, it is going to get a lot of headlines. But you also have the media being super surprised at the numbers of people who have self deported. Yes, but part of this is important about the magnet. What's the magnet in California? You got free health care. California. You can do anything you want in California. That's why they have such a problem. And taking away that magnet means that maybe they leave and we help correct some of this problem without as much disruption as people are seeing.
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Jesse Waters
Yeah. And to Dana's point, Greg, and in California, you pay really high taxes. I mean, you don't pay high taxes. So the fire equipment works and so the reservoirs are filled. It's so people who come here illegally can get free health care and free college education. When will the state of California revolt against this?
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Kennedy
You can't have free stuff and no border. I think we can all agree that borders are important.
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Dana Perino
There we go.
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Kennedy
The problem is we all didn't agree that that borders were important. We just experienced a systematic removal of our border under people who claim to be the Biden administration, that we're still not sure who they are. And so now they're criticizing the process of removal. No, we don't have to listen to you. I can listen to Harold, because, Harold, you talked about the need for a border, but a lot of these people, they didn't. And now, you know, this attack over process camouflages the rejection of the goal. You know, so now the adults are in charge and they're rescuing a good country. It's like Trump boarded a ship and is sealing a gaping hole. If we had listened to the people making the biggest noise about deportation and process, we'd have no country left. This is an intervention. We have to do this. You know, if this border crisis hadn't happened, this would be a different discussion. But now we're doing this. It's dramatic, it's forceful, but we couldn't get the Democrats to listen. And now they're engaged. But they're not engaged over the victims of illegal aliens or the missing sex traffic kids. They're upset that someone won't wipe their ass. Or in Jerry Nadler's case, people won't wipe their ass.
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Jesse Waters
He's a. He's a little dumpling that during. Now that's what Craig's saying. Up next, the left loses it at Trump's military parade. Stay with us.
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Greg Gutfeld
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Jesse Waters
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Greg Gutfeld
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Dana Perino
A real split screen moment in America over the weekend. President Trump holding a big beautiful military parade celebrating the 250th anniversary of the army. While the no King's anti Trump protests brought out millions of cat ladies and Woodstock era boomers. This lady was running around in whatever the heck this is and these children are smashing the snot out of a Trump pinata. The Democrat speakers just as unhinged.
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Together we build a future of opportunity.
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Greg Gutfeld
And justice for all. When I look at my phone or the news, the world around me, we're holding on for dear life. We have a king and his court and his beige henchmen and they're trampling on our rights. They're coming from the heart. These are people that are speaking their truth. And it's not about insulting the president. It's about letting people know who they are and where they come from.
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Jesse Waters
We have a supreme constitution.
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Kennedy
We don't have a supreme leader.
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Jesse Waters
We have no dictators here. We have no kings.
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Dana Perino
Greg, how would you assess the no Kings protest this weekend?
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Kennedy
I thought it was a rage of success. No Kings, you know, but.
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Mike Tobin
It is.
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Kennedy
Amazing that they create. It's again another delusion that they create in their heads that doesn't exist. We do not have kings here. If they had been, if we had kings, you wouldn't have had the march because you're cowards. So they're protesting something that doesn't exist. So it's easy then to claim mercy. Now look at Canada. They had a no Kings day, but they changed the name to no Tyrants.
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Dana Perino
Oh, because they have one.
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Kennedy
Because they have a king. There is courage. There is courage. It would have meant something if you had no King's Day because you have a King Charles. But no, you didn't want to piss off the king, so you changed it. Meanwhile, what a contrast. We have a military parade where 250 years ago we got rid of a king. And on the same day you have this astroturf cosplaying circus of people pretending that there's a king. Hallucinatory drama. Meanwhile, you know, in D.C. they're actually commemorating getting rid of a real king. Imagine all the time wasted, all of these old people that are so scared, so scared they have to go and protest. They have. Maybe their family isn't talking to them. I don't know what's going on. But they go out and they think they're doing something. It's sad.
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Dana Perino
Randi Weingartner seemed very peeved. Dana, do you think she'll be okay?
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I think that look at like she's, she will defend anything except for K through 12 education. And it drives me insane. I think the media was really disappointed that the military parade was a military parade. They wanted something different. They wanted North Korea. And then belatedly they thought, oh, I guess France has one of these things. And I guess, oh, I guess that other. Oh, the UK has one, too. And they're also super surprised. But I also would say this. They can't get away from Kamala Harris. What did Kamala Harris say? Well, in the last two months of the election, they were saying that Trump wants to be a king. They're still so online. And Matt Whitlock is my guest on the Perino on Politics podcast today, and he talks about the funding of a lot of these things and it comes from two foreign oligarchs from Alabara Advisors. Once again, here they are. And they are the ones funding it. They actually have kings. Yes.
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Harold Ford, were you watching the Fox coverage of the military parade this weekend?
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Greg Gutfeld
I did not. I didn't watch really any of it. I watched the tragedy in Minnesota and I celebrated the Father's Day. But I'll tell you, I don't disagree with anything you said. I think you framed it well, Greg. But I think the fact that the no Kings rally can coexist with a rally commemorating the bravery and history of the United States army is nothing more than a testament to the greatness of our freedom. The fact that everyone could complain as long as you do it peacefully and state their case is a wonderful, wonderful thing. I didn't not watch President, the military parade, Mr. Trump's military parade, for any reason other than I was busy. I salute and believe that the United States army is the greatest fighting force to ever exist and the freedoms that I enjoy because of it also happen to agree with the premise of what they talked about, the no kings. I don't want a king either. Now, I might not have done it quite the way they did it, but anybody watching this is what democracy is built on, the hopes and aspirations of people. So I don't mind this. I just think it's a testament to the strength of the country that we can coexist.
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Kennedy
Do you not want Bigfoot? Should we ever Protest against Bigfoot.
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Greg Gutfeld
If that's what you want to do. I'm your pal. We can absolutely go protest against Bigfoot.
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Donald Trump
Kennedy.
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Dana Perino
If Iraq, Obama had held a military parade, Fox wouldn't have had a problem with that, right?
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Jesse Waters
No, he would have aired it and hopefully it would have been just as spectacular because the army was just as spectacular when Barack Obama was president. So I was watching this and it was actually a wonderful walk through history and the history, the military history of our country. It doesn't make you a warmonger to look at that and go, oh, wow, you know, look how our technology and uniforms have changed over 250 years. My grandfather was an army captain during World War I. My beloved partner is a West Pointer, as I told Dana today on her show. And he also went to Ranger school. And they highlighted West Point and they highlighted the Rangers. And that was a really cool thing for me to see as a civilian. He's also a combat veteran and, you know, our country is safe because of people like him. And it was not about Trump. And they're not gonna do this for the Air Force because the Air Force is not as cool as the Army.
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Dana Perino
I want to hear more about your partner in the commercial brand.
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He's great.
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Up next is Sean Penn too chicken to meet with President Trump?
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Kennedy
Hollywood's human ashtray. Sean Penn telling Bill Maher he would not sit down for dinner with Trump.
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Greg Gutfeld
The only reason I would not accept an invitation is because. I see. I see.
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Dana Perino
No, it's a long flight. I see.
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Greg Gutfeld
No, really.
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Dana Perino
You meet with, I don't think Castro.
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Donald Trump
And Hugo Chavez, but not the President.
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Kennedy
Of the United States.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, I saw good results come out of some of those things.
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Dana Perino
I just personally wouldn't trust anything that was said in the.
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Greg Gutfeld
Including the personality.
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Kennedy
You know, Jesse, I was watching that and I just got like hypnotized by. What's his name again? Sean Penn's shoes. Do we have a picture of the shoes there?
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Dana Perino
Check those out. What the.
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Kennedy
Aren't those amazing? I think this is a. I think he's trying to set some kind of Fashion trend.
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Dana Perino
You have a hole in his shoe and he's wrapped tape around it.
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Kennedy
Yes.
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Dana Perino
Is that what I'm looking at right there?
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Kennedy
Yes, exactly. I think he. Is he down on his luck, or.
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Dana Perino
Is this something when you're worth a hundred million and you wear shredded jeans?
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Donald Trump
Really?
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Dana Perino
So I used to think Sean Penn was a traitor when I was younger, and he would go interview Chavez and Castro, and I was like, oh, how dare you? But then I listened to an interview he did, and he seemed intellectually curious about these people and wanted to see for himself, wanted to get past the propaganda, so I respected that. But then when Maher hit him between the eyes and said, you won't even meet with the President, but you meet with these tyrants, he had nothing. I mean, I would interview Tampon, and I've invited Tampon on the show, and he refuses. That's why I am the most tolerant host on cable.
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Kennedy
You know, I'm not a doctor, Dana, but I look at this angle, and he definitely has to go to a doctor. There is a swollen node on his neck, which is unmistakable. Again, I'm not saying I'm a doctor, but I have saved many lives just by watching tv.
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Dana Perino
It is sort of weird to watch a show where you've got, like, vodka and cigarettes and shoes that look like somebody homeless. I think he's afraid to have dinner with Trump because he's afraid he would be charmed and he doesn't want to take the risk of losing his identity as a never Trumper.
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Kennedy
Yeah, I think he hit the nail on the head. It's exactly why they're giving crap to Maher, because he, quote, was charmed when he really wasn't. Kennedy. I don't know, man. I'm watching this. I'm a little worried about the guy.
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Jesse Waters
He looks like Randy Weingarten and Nick Nolte had a very old baby. Yes, a very old baby who's quite unwell. Yeah, I mean, I've known Sean Penn for years, and he doesn't look good, but also, like, he's beholden to the progressives. If he loses them, he has nothing politically. And the way he looks, he's really given up on himself and acting. So. Yeah, but he still has to play this popularity contest. But the smartest thing for him would be to find one avenue, even if it's a very small lane, where he and the President agree and really capitalize on that. Because Trump is the kind of person where he would acquiesce if that would make the world or the Country a better place. But, you know, he's too much of an egotistical narcissist to do that, which means he'll never be Bono.
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Kennedy
You know, Harold, I look at Bill Maher and Sean Penn in the same picture, and Maher is older than him, but looks maybe 10 to 15 years younger. Much like you, Harold.
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Greg Gutfeld
Thank you. I appreciate that. Lead and neat. You know, we talk about this a lot being around this table. I often say at the start it's good to be back around the table because I value and respect the chance to be able to sit, disagree, listen, be stimulated, hopefully persuade a little bit, and even be persuaded myself. During the civil rights era, civil rights leaders, black leaders who were being denied full participation in America, were being hanged, who were being arrested, being denied basic opportunities, would still sit down with the very people who were doing that, denying to try to make the country better. It's famous, a famous story that Tip o' Neill and President Reagan, who had very different politics, very different upbringings, very different outlooks on life, would often get together to try to find ways to make the country better. We are so divided as a country today that we find ourselves at a strategic disadvantage, not only in trying to figure out and solve problems at home, but even how we present around the world. I was glad to hear Bill Maher counter Sean Penn like he did. He did it in his own way and basically suggested maybe you should take a look at your own pops. You may dislike Trump so much, but if you can do these things, how can you not meet with a person that your fellow countryman elected as president? And it goes both ways. So I was excited to see this. I hope they both learned from it and I hope we make progress as a result.
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Kennedy
Dana said, if you're very confident in what you believe in, you should have no problems meeting with somebody. He's not confident in what he believes.
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Dana Perino
In, but he's very comfortable meeting with Castro.
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Kennedy
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
So what does that tell you?
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Greg Gutfeld
There you go.
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Kennedy
Up next. Ten years since Trump's golden escalator ride.
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Donald Trump
When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.
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Greg Gutfeld
Okay? Ten years ago today, President Trump wrote down that golden escalator and announced his bid for the White House and changed the course of history. Dana, as you, as you think about that and watch that visual, what it's got to be a lot going on here. What do you think?
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Dana Perino
I was in a car on the way here and I remember turning the corner on 57th street going, what a remarkable life. If you think about it, what he has been able to do in 10 years to become a political icon, somebody who won unbelievably and then came very close to winning a second time, but basically had to deal with COVID and then comes back to win again and to basically say I told you so. It is really a remarkable thing. And I liked what Maggie Haberman of the New York Times said in an interview she did about this period. This 10 year period is separating the signal from the noise. And one thing for me in the second term is I definitely weight a beat, right. I don't like all these people that got so upset about the military parade. It's like, just hold on a second, let's just see. Let's just see for a second and see how it is and not reacting so quickly. And I think that the second term is fascinating. The first 100 days was fascinating, but the second 100 days is just as fascinating. We've got a long way to go between now in the end, prime time, your thoughts?
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Well, in the green room Herald, you told me that his singles greatest accomplishment was making sure two women didn't get into the White House. And then Greg in the green room told me that it was now okay to hate Mexicans. And then Kennedy in the green room told me that he really kind of taught us how to defeat the MeToo movement. And then Dana said he legitimized bitcoin. So all those things.
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Greg Gutfeld
Green room where you in. Exactly.
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Dana Perino
I mean, the bitcoin thing might be true.
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Greg Gutfeld
Prime time. You listen to prime time. What do you think, Dana?
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Kennedy
You said it like you wait a beat. And I think that, you know, not talking about Trump, but just talking about me when I first. It's 10 years when I heard that, I was very excited about him when he was coming down the escalator. And then I heard him and it was so blunt and so harsh, I thought it was over before it began. And I think I even said that on the five. And boy was I wrong. He had a better pulse on the population than I did. And I look back and he was right at the start. He saw it coming and he rang the alarm. And I learned that you have to like not get drawn in to the explosion that happens immediately and then get sucked in by all the assigned opinions. Cuz that's all that rained down. Were these assigned? What he said was racist, what he said was xenophobic. And then you go, well no, actually that's your interpretation if you're reading his mind. And I found myself guilty of that. And that was the biggest lesson for me for the future.
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Greg Gutfeld
Well, Kenny, we're gonna let you deal with this tomorrow or a little later in the show here.
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Donald Trump
Oh, go.
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Jesse Waters
I will say this. A lot of people thought they were disqualifying comments. When he ascended down the golden escalator. That was just an amuse boosh.
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Greg Gutfeld
One more thing's up next. One more thing. I said, you wanna be starting something?
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Dana Perino
You wanna be starting something?
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Jesse Waters
So what?
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Kennedy
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Dana Perino
It's time now for one more Thing.
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Kennedy
Oh, we got a great show tonight. We got the return of Cat tip after David Angelo Kennedy and Tony tune in. 10:00pm Jesse.
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Dana Perino
All right, so the twins graduated from eighth grade. So proud of them. Ellie won the math award. Sophia spoke at graduation and won the spirit award. Very, very proud tonight. Pete Hegseth and Caroline Levitt at 8:00 and Johnny was at the military parade.
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We're not playing that. Okay. Perino on politics was Matt Whitlock is up now.
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Greg Gutfeld
And Harold, congrats to J.J. spahn for winning the U.S. open. What? What a finish. Congrats to his team.
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Dana Perino
I saw that putt.
- [42:44]
That was great. What a way to Kennedy.
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Jesse Waters
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Greg Gutfeld
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