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Greg Gutfeld
Five.
Jesse Waters
Well, everybody, I'm Jesse Waters along with Paul Morrow, Jessica Guitarlove, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. It's all going down Saturday for Trump's big beautiful cease fire. The White House confirming J.D. vance is taking the lead in talks with the Iranian negotiators in Islamabad this weekend. Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, they'll also be there. This comes after President Trump made the mullahs cry uncle, agreeing to a two week ceasefire, but only if they open the Strait of Hormuz. Meanwhile, the libs are still crashing out over that Trump truce where he casually threatened that a whole civilization will die. But Caroline had to spell it out for him. Why is it appropriate for the President of the United States to use that
Caroline
kind of language when talking about civilian targets?
Dana Perino
Well, I understand the questions about the President's rhetoric, but what the President cares most about is results.
Jesse Waters
How can the President claim that America can ever have the moral high ground if he's threatening to destroy civilizations?
Dana Perino
The president absolutely has the moral high ground over the Iranian terrorist regime. And for you to even suggest otherwise is frankly insulting.
Jessica Guitarlove
What was your understanding of what he meant when he said this civilization is going to be eliminated?
Dana Perino
I think it was a very, very strong threat from the President of the United States that led the Iranian regime to cave to their knees and ask for a ceasefire and agree to reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Jesse Waters
The V getting his pregame on before Saturday with some choice words for the Iranians who claim the US has violated the deal.
Caroline
We have a negotiation that's supposed to start this weekend. That's the truth. I think it's a good first step. I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iran Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon and it just didn't. If Iran wants to let this negotiation fall apart in a conflict where they were getting hammered over Lebanon, which has nothing to do with them, and which the United States never once said was part of the ceasefire, that's ultimately their choice, we think that would be dumb. I did see that tweet from Golubov actually just a couple of minutes ago. I actually wonder how good he is at understanding English because there are things that he said that frankly didn't make sense.
Jesse Waters
Naturally, the Democrats top leaders are jealous of the dealmaker in chief.
Paul Morrow
Listen well, a two week cease fire is insufficient.
Greg Gutfeld
We need a permanent end to Donald Trump's reckless war of choice. Gas prices worse shape. Iran's nuclear ambition. We're in worse shape. American credibility. We're in worse shape. This war. This war is a colossal failure.
Jesse Waters
Okay, Dana. Ceasefire. Fragile. It's being described as.
Jessica Guitarlove
I know you've heard of the fog of war. I'm in the fog of ceasefire. I'm not exactly sure. Remember last week, was it last week you said we were intelligent if we said we didn't know. I'm really intelligent today. Yes, I do think Caroline had one of her best briefings today because one of the things she did is say, I hear your question, I get it. I understand. On the rhetoric, however. And then she went on. But she also pointed out that the original 10 points were a total deal breaker. And so I think JD Vance certainly has his work cut out for him. But he, in that clip we just played, I think he's up for it, right? He says, okay, I am clear on what the president wants. I am clear on such and such regarding Lebanon in particular. And I want, but I wanted to mention something on that. And I know that he knows this, but what he didn't say is that why does Iran say that this has to include Lebanon? Because they fund Hezbollah and Hezbollah is the one that in southern Lebanon has been giving Israel the business meaning militarily, like sending bombs and terrorist attacks forever. So that's why Iran wants us to stop and that's why Iran, Israel is saying, oh, yeah, no, that is not going to stop. I said yesterday it felt like a blur. There's no doubt that militarily, Iran is on its back heels, but that was like putting the NFL up against a high school team. Right? They should be on their heels. And I just keep going back to the president saying he demanded an unconditional surrender from the regime. But, okay, so let's say we were never going to get unconditional surrender. But how, how far did we get down the way? I'm not exactly sure. And we don't, maybe we won't know until after this negotiation. However, is America and Israel safer today than they were before this because of taking away these capabilities of the Iranian military? I say yes. The one big sticking point is that the Strait of Hormuz is now something that Iran knows. Oh, we know exactly how to hold the world hostage on this. So I'm not sure where that ends up. I don't like the idea of a toll that doesn't, that's not good. We can't do that all around the world. But it does have to be open. They, I think they're going to say 12 ships get to go through tomorrow. It's usually 100 a day. So for Americans and people around the world looking for relief on energy prices, it's not going to come immediately. But again, I'm in the blur of the ceasefire, so that's a lot of words to say. I'm not sure what's going on.
Jesse Waters
Jessica, are you happy that there's a ceasefire? Are you mad that there's a ceasefire? Where do you stand?
Jessica Guitarlove
I stand, I think in reality that there is no ceasefire. We were, or I was watching coverage of this last night, flipping around, obviously watching your show, Jesse, and then perusing some other channels and there were split screens between, you know, White House announces cease fire and missiles raining down on the Israelis. We knew that Israel was sending rockets back to Iran. We know what today has looked like in Lebanon with what the Israelis are doing there, one of the highest death toll days. So the cease fire was a complete fiction. And what J.D. vance is saying and the White House now, Caroline Levitt, that those 10 points were completely unacceptable. That's only because some of the biggest boosters of the administration came out and said, are you kidding me? Look at what you're agreeing to. Like Mark Levin, who has obviously been very close to this process. He took, you know, what Fox and Friends had put up this morning and said, this 10 points are a disaster. Last night, Larry Kudlow asked on social media, is this what we want? I mean, the deal, the 10 points that they sent in in response to our 15 points, allow them, as Dana said, to control the Strait of Hormuz and to decide what they charge. So that could be $2 million per tanker and they split that with the Omanis. Or then the FTSE reported this morning a proposal to do a dol dollar for every barrel and they want it to be paid in crypto, which would be untraceable. And we know that because Donald Trump loves to be paid in crypto. No shutting down to the nuclear program, you continue to enrich uranium. The leadership, not a problem, can keep supporting those proxy forces. That's the Hezbollah problem. And then that sanctions would be lifted. We already took off 14 billion in sanctions. This would go even further. And Donald Trump would be the first president certainly in recent memory, that didn't have economic sanctions on Iran. The linchpin story on this, and we have been tracing this particular plot line since the beginning, is what Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman reported yesterday in the excerpt of their book that comes out in a couple of months. And it's about a meeting on February 11 in the situation Room, and Bibi Netanyahu was there. He was sitting at the table with our leadership, and he pitched them on this war. Donald Trump was interested. Pete Hegseth was interested. Everybody else. Ratcliffe, farcical, Rubio. It's B.S. general Kane. Standard operating procedure for Israelis. They oversell. Susie Wiles. We can't be dragged into another Middle Eastern war. Israel pushed us to do this. It doesn't mean that there weren't some good things that came out of it. But that first day, remember, and you guys said, I can't believe you're saying this, when Rubio came out and he said the truth to the gaggle of reporters, that the imminent threat was not against us, it was something that was happening for Israel is the core piece of this, and now we're stuck in it. And Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff are seen as being very pro Israel, and that's why people want to negotiate with J.D. vance instead of with them, because they think that they may possibly be talking to someone who isn't just representing Israeli interests.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, I think if you continued to read the article, you'd see that the President wasn't interested in the regime change and the revolution. He was more interested in destroying the military and knocking out the leadership. Paul Morrow.
Paul Morrow
I find this to be a very, very dangerous meme, this idea that Israel is leaning Donald Trump around by the nose. He doesn't know any better. He didn't see Bibi coming. And all of a sudden, now a guy who doesn't want to listen to anybody on anything because he's the most powerful person in the world is falling for deceptions from one of our allies. Let's recognize something. I think this is a false premise here. This is a ceasefire. It's not the deal. We're all talking about this as if, okay, we're. Now we have a deal. This is where we're going to go in it. They have these requests from the Iranians, and we're going to be parsing those. No, we just stopped bombing them. I mean, there's historical precedent for this across the board. Everybody remembers the famous Christmas pause when World War I. They came out of the trenches, they all played soccer. The point is that they stopped bombing for a while, which, by the way, operationally works for us as well, because we can re up all of our interceptors. We can look at our intel again. Donald Trump has a lot better intel than all of us around the table do. Let's remember something. When the time came to hit that meeting of the ayatollahs. The Israelis had the signal intelligence, all right, reportedly. And this is out. I'm not giving up anything. That they had penetrated the traffic lights, the traffic signals in Iran, in Tehran, and so they knew. They're all incoming to this meeting. But when the time came to say, what are we going to do? Our leadership turned to the CIA, looked at Radcliffe and said, can you confirm this? And because it's the CIA, they didn't have to say, well, we got to look. He said, no, we have a very sophisticated program vis a vis Iran. Yes, it is on our best source. So that's just. I raised it as an example to show that there are things going on behind the scenes that they know that we don't. And they're not obviously, going to talk about it too, too much. So there's a pause to see where we go. Now, relative to Hezbollah, let's remember something. They're a mafia, all right? They get 50% of their funding from Iran. Their equity is to survive. Iran is weak relative to Hezbollah because they got to fund them, and they don't want to lose them because that's their cat's paw. Hezbollah actually is in a better position here relative to Iran because they make money all over the world, including in our hemisphere. So the fact that all of this stuff is going on in Lebanon, calling me completely unsurprised, because Hezbollah just wants to survive and it means hitting the Israelis, they're going to do it. Last thing I want to say, just to sort of button things up here operationally, let's look at something here. The objective was, at the end of the day, to secure the nuclear material, because I know imminently, of course, Israel is closer to them, and of course, they're more at risk. But let's remember, they were developing ICBMs. They had a missile that went 2,000 miles that they weren't supposed to have. And everybody has kicked this can down the road from all of our presidents. So if you are willing. I had ambivalence about this as well when the aircraft carriers were offshore. But if you're going to say, we shouldn't have done this, I want to hear the solution. Because sometime between three and five years, maybe less, there's going to be an ICBM with a nuclear warhead with New York's name on it in Iran, and that's going to be a problem for the next president. And say what you want about Trump, he's the first guy who said, we're not going to cut some BS deal like Kerry cut in Austria, that, oh yeah, there's a jcpoa, we're not naive and all that crap. No, you are naive. They were just kicking it down range so that they didn't have to deal with it. So if you don't like it, fair enough. But that means you were willing to say downrange, three years from now, we're going to confront this thing. And I have an answer to that. Then when you're dealing with a regime that is messianic and practically has debt to America on their money, you better have a better answer than Donald Trump is a warmonger.
Jesse Waters
Let's go to my cat's paw. Greg Gutfeld, when you heard the news of the ceasefire, what went through your mind?
Greg Gutfeld
I thought this truce will probably be as temporary as Jesse's lip filler.
Jesse Waters
Do I need another?
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, it's flattening. I am old enough to remember when Jews as a puppeteer was some kind of anti Semitic trope, but all of a sudden that's just gone by the wayside. Oh, the Jews are controlling us. I thought I blew that out of the water yesterday. Last week when I said that Trump had been talking about doing the exact same stuff to Iran for decades, including going after Carg island, and here we are going. No, it wasn't his idea, it was the Jews. The Jews, their interests can align, by the way, and to which Paul has pointed out. So look, the problem with the Iranian leaders is they tell you one thing and they do another. At we know that the Democrats ignored that fact. We can trust them here. Let's give them money. We're gonna have this truce, but it's not like we're gonna sit there and watch it. We're gonna be doing our own thing too. We also realize that Iran is outside of international law, so we don't have to listen to the un. We can do what we want. Sorry, it's a rogue nation. The UN doesn't care about Iran when they do crap. We can do what we want. So I've said this before, I'll say it again. Trump is a two hour drive to an hour at the beach, meaning that the ride is can be bumpy, noisy, maybe the AC is out. But you know, when you get to the destination, it's worth it. And by objective metrics, I think it has no navy, no air force, no political leadership. The new capabilities have been diminished and probably will be more the missile stockpile, et cetera. I don't think I'd want to Rewind that. And that is a really good question for Democrat candidates as they approach 2027 about Iran. Would you rewind all this that happened? Would you want Iran not to return to its strength? It's a good question. Do you think the press will ask that? I doubt it. So the critics acts like, act like this is the first time they took that ride to the beach. So they never pee beforehand. They complain about the twists and the turns. They live in a Trump version of Groundhog Day. Meanwhile, the stable people among us are like, we'll put our earbuds in. We'll listen to Slayer and wait till we get to the beach and everything is gonna be great. The criticism of Trump is based not on an outcome. It never is. It's never about the outcome. The outcome is pretty good. Look what happened to Iran. It's his style, you know, it's their only cogent response to what's going on because they can't talk about the deeds. So what is the response when people complain about Trump? There's only one word, so he threatens annihilation. So he uses the F bomb in a post so he won't listen to the un so because those things are ephemeral and they come from sources that spaces are in derangement, they're gonna complain about anything. We don't have to like the playbook, but we have to acknowledge there is a recognizable pattern here. And it's from a leader who gets shit done, and this is how he does it. It's a mix of carrot stick, escalation, deadline, and chaos. Trump's routine is to mimic chaos. That's all you have to know.
Jessica Guitarlove
How is the straight being closed not a deed? Like, it's not a rhetoric issue. It's not a meaning thing like energy can't get out.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, this is part of what's happening. This is why you have this truce. Who knows? It's not over yet.
Jesse Waters
I think they'll get it open, Jessica. Up next, the dumbest thing the media has said yet about the war in Iran.
Jessica Guitarlove
Are Democrats trying to goad President Trump into restoration, starting the war with Iran. Folks seem very fond of a certain taunt implying that the President chickened out
Greg Gutfeld
the Taco Tuesday of all Taco Tuesdays,
Jessica Guitarlove
as our President Trump has backed off.
And there will be some who will
call it, you know, Taco Trump always chickens out, which is is making way
too light of it.
But it is also a truth. Donald Trump just caved.
Paul Morrow
President Trump's critics have coined the acronym Taco for Trump always Chickens out.
Greg Gutfeld
The fact that he can say with a straight face that we're winning this war is, is pretty absurd.
Jessica Guitarlove
And the media is also serving up one of their most head scratching comments yet on the conflict. Ms. Now anchor Lawrence o' Donnell taking issue with Pete Hegsa's leave no man behind motto to describe the daring airman rescue.
Greg Gutfeld
We leave no man behind.
General Dan Kane
That is of course, the old school version of the idea back when only men flew American military planes. General Dan Kane, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, put it this
Paul Morrow
way, we leave no one behind.
General Dan Kane
The general knows, unlike Pete Hegseth, that that could have been a woman they were trying to rescue and it might be a woman the next time Greg
Jessica Guitarlove
want to hit that last ball out of the park.
Greg Gutfeld
Finally someone says what everyone's, everyone's been thinking. But you know what? He didn't go far enough.
Paul Morrow
That's right. No.
Greg Gutfeld
What if they leave no trans behind? You don't know. Don't make some assumptions that the pilot is one of two biological sexes. Do we even know what you're talking about? I would hate to be them because you're constantly trying to put a square peg in a round hole and then you just finally fail and decide that the hole is racist and then you stop. The point is, is that, you know, would they rather have Trump annihilate the country? No. But then there's peace. And now they redefine peace as something bad. It's, I don't know, I call it strategic ignorance, which is they pretend they don't know what's going on. You know, they don't know what Trump's already done. They don't know what's being, what people are trying to do. So we have this responsibility every day to explain to them what's going on. And we know it wastes people's time to have to go through and go like, these are patterns that you've seen before. And you know, it's, you know, they have nuclear weapons. It's just like. But if they don't have strategic ignorance, those people are out of jobs. My thing is, I would like to see the Jimmy Kimmel that calls Trump a psychotic debate. Jimmy Kimmel, who calls him a chicken. Because we don't need to get involved in that debate. They're just debating each other.
Jessica Guitarlove
That's what I was gonna say, Jesse. Like some of these people in the morning on, when they were on television, they were saying President Trump is a war criminal. And by the end of the day they were saying he was A chicken?
Jesse Waters
Yeah. I don't understand. So if they're saying that President Trump's losing the war and then he needs to stop the bombing, and then when he stops the bombing, he's a chicken. That doesn't make any sense. But I don't even care anymore. I stopped paying attention to what these people say. I get paid to pay attention to what she says. But it's okay. It's almost worth it. So we fought in Iraq for nine years. We fought in Afghanistan for 20 years. The Democrats never called Bush, Obama, Joe Biden, chicken. Never called him a madman. But Trump,
Jessica Guitarlove
War criminal, Hitler. Yeah, that came up. That came up.
Jesse Waters
But Trump basically wrecks the Iranians in 38 days, Wrexham in 38 days. And they call him crazy, and they call him. That doesn't make any sense. We have set them back militarily. Years, Years. They can't come back from this. And they have no leadership. They have nothing. They have nothing left. And we did it without boots on the ground, and we only lost 13 brave service members. And we did it within the timeline. The President said he was going to do it. If you had rewound it and said all of these things could happen, if this was gonna be the result, you would probably say, yeah, probably go for it. I probably would've go for it. Now, listen, we gotta win the peace. This isn't over. But it does give the American soldiers a little R and R, which they need. We can re rack the guns, we can bring in more interceptors, and we can watch. We can watch what the Iranians do. And if they screw around, we can go back and hit them. You know why, Jessica? Because we know their pressure point. We threatened bridge and power plant day. And what happened? Khomeini, the gay Ayatollah, said, we gotta sign a deal. And the Chinese came in and says, guys, your economy is already dead and it's never coming back if you guys keep fighting. Sign a deal. That was the Reuters team and the Times both reported that Trump's threat made them cave. And now we can just watch and we can go back in and do what we need to do. But if you guys aren't gonna agree with the fact that we now call it the Gulf of America, if you can't even say, yeah, that's good, okay, we don't need you. You've been against everything this guy's done, good or bad.
Jessica Guitarlove
And Jessica, there was a lot of coverage yesterday and even into today, even after the truce or ceasefire. Not truce, ceasefire. About his end of civilization. Tweet, arguably. Wasn't that a bluff to maybe that got them to the table?
He would be making that argument for sure. And his team is making that argument.
Jesse Waters
What's the other.
Jessica Guitarlove
He wasn't going to end a civilization.
Jesse Waters
What's the other argument? That was the deadline. That was the threat.
Jessica Guitarlove
But you've been telling me for years that the genius and why Donald Trump is so good at this is because people actually believe that he's crazy enough to do some of these things. That little rocket man doesn't know what he's going to do and that the gay ayatollah doesn't know what he's going to do. So when he says, I'm going to get rid of an entire civilization with 90 million people, did I read that and think, I still got to get my coffee this morning? Yeah. Donald Trump has just gotten access to his keyboard, like Dan Scavino. Hurry up and take it away. Sure. But that's still a very serious thing to do. On top of threatening civilian infrastructure, which does constitute a war crime.
Paul Morrow
False.
Jessica Guitarlove
I.
Okay.
Anyhow.
Greg Gutfeld
Okay.
Jessica Guitarlove
Yesterday was also an election day, and this relates to the impeachment Talk and the 25th Amendment and whatever else. I want to talk about election issues.
And I go to second, Jessica.
Jesse Waters
I mean, we're doing Iran here.
Jessica Guitarlove
Oh, no, I'm just saying that I think that Democrats shouldn't spend their time talking about impeachment. You should be talking about the issues that affect the. The kitchen table in Wisconsin, Georgia, Missouri, Oklahoma. That's what I meant.
Excellent. Paul, I wonder if whenever you did an interrogation of a suspect and you knew that they were guilty and you're trying to get them to.
Paul Morrow
They're all guilty.
Jessica Guitarlove
So would you say, I'm going to end your civilization if you don't fess up right now?
Paul Morrow
All right, well, you know what? Let's hit that line a little bit. The mullahs ended Persian civilization. Hello to the people of Iran. They feel like Persian civilization has been completely taken over. And it has been. I interviewed somebody yesterday who actually is a dissident who fled Iran. I'm going to put it up on the ops desk, my website. Really interesting thing. His perspective is that it was a hostile takeover. He wants to go back to Iran, pre Islam. That's how far back that a lot of young people are looking to say we want to be secular and that this whole thing was a hijacking of our civilization. I'd never actually heard that from, like, a young guy. He's an American. He's here. But to get to the point, I want to go back to one thing real quick, which is the regime change issue. Even Bibi has said recently, look, it doesn't happen antiseptically. You don't flip a switch and we get regime change. The mullahs aren't running things anymore and I don't think we're going to see them back. If you could go back a month and say, okay, here's the deal. You're going to lose very few men and any man is a loss. We know that. Any person. I'm sorry, I don't want to get in trouble with o'. Donnell. But that said, if you could say, hey, we're going to neutralize the nukes. They're going to have no delivery systems to shoot nukes at America, Europe or anyplace else in the world. We're going to really limit their ability to re up their missile program. We're going to take the mullahs out of the mix yet it may be a dictatorship, it may be a strongman situation. We may get somebody from the IRGC who's running things, but it's somebody you can talk to. And if you can get to the point where you have this is the metric, this is how you know it's going to work. If, when this happens, that's when you'll know it worked. I don't know what's going to happen, but this is when you'll know. If the Saudis come into the Abraham Accords and if you have that and they're all cutting deals, they'll blame Donald Trump no matter how it goes. This is a disaster for America. We created a whole nother economic engine that we have to deal with. But that's the hope. And maybe instead of shooting at each other, they're trading with each other. You have oil, you have Israeli tech. Know how financial know how they could be an immense power block. They just got to get out of each other's way. If that happens, this worked well.
Jessica Guitarlove
And Iran backed Hamas and they started October 7th which led to this to
Paul Morrow
stop the Abraham Accords and to stop Saudi from MBS was looking at it, of course. Exactly.
Jessica Guitarlove
Okay, up next, the Democrats are getting into bed with a far left influencer who once said the US deserved 9 11.
Greg Gutfeld
It's going on easy tonight. Dams are coing up to a new far left bozo downplayed rapes during the October 7th massacre. Once said America deserved 911 and trashed a woman who suffered under a communist government.
Caroline
None of this justifies that Palestinians have a right to. To dignity, a right to emancipation, a right to live free lives, free from this occupation. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if rapes happen on October 7th.
Greg Gutfeld
I don't have any sort of patriotism in my heart for any. Yeah.
Paul Morrow
For America.
Caroline
America deserved. 9, 11.
Paul Morrow
Shut the up, you stupid, idiotic old lady.
Caroline
Suck my old lady.
Greg Gutfeld
Wow. Progressive Democrat Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El Said, inviting Hassan Piker to a rally yesterday, refusing to condemn any of Piker's pathetic beliefs.
Jesse Waters
Are there any views that Hasan holds that you disavow? I'm not here to disavow people's views. This whole gotcha game. Platform policing, cancel culture. I thought we were over it.
Greg Gutfeld
So, Dana, I think what gets me gets my goat. Since we're talking about Hasan Piker, here's the party that decries toxic masculinity, and they put up a guy who denies the rapes on October 7, which is basically just a horrible thing to say. Anybody who knows about October 7th knows what happened there, and he's a scumbag. How can the Democrat Party.
Jessica Guitarlove
I think it's almost worse than that because he doesn't just deny it. He says it doesn't matter. Yeah, like, who cares? It doesn't matter. That's just the cost of war. Too bad, ladies, the things he said about women are pretty incredible. But we've gone over this before. We make fun of sexism because it's like, a way to deal with it. It's like, it's funny. I can laugh about how women are bad drivers. Ha ha. But, like, I actually am not great. And yet you have all the stories we've talked about in terms of the victims of illegal immigrant crime. Most, what, 98% of them are women. You don't hear anything from anybody about that. Remember the lady who said, well, she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sorry, ladies. I mean, that is strange. But then also, when it comes to people like Syed or even Ro Khanna deciding to go on a show, like, they. They believe that they have to be there in order to win. So something like, so Syed's trying to win a primary. They think that's where they have to be. There are a lot of people that listen to those shows and listen to shows on the far right. But remember the kind of hell that President Trump had to pay for having dinner with Nick Fuentes?
Paul Morrow
Yeah.
Jessica Guitarlove
And that's caused a huge fracturing on the right. And now all of them are fighting amongst each other. And I can't even figure it out.
Greg Gutfeld
Jessica, I don't follow the far right craziest because I am one. But I don't like. I don't know what. But I'm pretty sure they don't say rape, doesn't matter, or rapes of Jewish Women on October 7th. I don't know anybody on the right who would say that.
Jessica Guitarlove
How could.
Greg Gutfeld
I mean, CNN had this guy on crazy.
Jessica Guitarlove
Well, yeah, it's not. You have to watch the full tape of it. He's saying what Dana was saying, which he thinks that Israel's response is not proportionate to what was done to Israel. He's not Right, Right. Then. Then you should just not like him. And a lot of people don't like him.
Greg Gutfeld
You do.
Jessica Guitarlove
But that. No, it's not really a like or don't like thing. I think he's handsome.
Greg Gutfeld
Is that it?
Jessica Guitarlove
He is objectively handsome. Look at the New York Times profile of him. I mean, he is.
Paul Morrow
Of course there was one.
Jessica Guitarlove
I'm gonna take a hard pass on that.
No, no, but. But the reason that there's a profile of him which includes a lot of the incendiary things that he said, is that he does have this big audience. And I think that the fight within my party about whether to go on Hasan Piker stream or have him campaign for you is about dealing with the issues from the 2024 election. How we talk about Israel and the Democratic Party's relationship to it. How we talk about corruption and anti establishment sentiment, how we talk about universal health care, housing, education. These are issues that he talks about a lot in these streams. And he has millions of people, a lot of young men who are voicing real concerns about how they can get ahead in society. Not what they think about some woman who fled Communist. Something.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, just something. Something that happened to some chick in a communist country. Jesse, how is this not toxic masculinity? You know, the people that often call you a toxic masculine source are embracing this guy.
Jesse Waters
They are. Well, who cares? The thing about this is I kind of liked his answer to it. He goes, I don't think we want to get into platform policing and cancel culture. I agree with that. So if this guy wants to run and win, he thinks this guy could help him win. Give it a shot. Give it a shot in Michigan. You know what? I respect it.
Greg Gutfeld
Own it.
Jesse Waters
This could cost you huge. But if that's how you really feel, do it. I really don't care. We had word. Churchill. Remember him? World churchill, America deserve 9, 11 now. I didn't think Any politician would be inviting world Churchill to rally and be like, I stand with the guy. But things have changed. People say all kinds of stuff now and, and we just have to say this is some crazy guy, but I like him. He might be too crazy for you. He might be obnoxious and disgusting, but you know what? I'm going to run with this guy and if I win, I win. If I lose, it might be a little bit his fault. And it's your fault for the bad judgment. It's all about judgment.
Greg Gutfeld
Spoken like.
Jesse Waters
Like what?
Greg Gutfeld
I don't know.
Paul Morrow
Toxic male.
Greg Gutfeld
A toxic male. Paul, obviously I'm going to go to you about 9 11, because you were there and when you hear this, I mean you do get a free punch out of it, don't you?
Paul Morrow
You know, the thing about it is that he'd love it. Of course that would make me the bad guy. Look, the thing is, let's recognize the currents that are blowing through this, okay? This is where a lot of the young people are and let's recognize what it is, okay? He is doing the stuff that we talked about in the eight block. He's using blame Israel as the panacea for every ill in the world. It is Israel's fault, Period, End of story. That's what is embedded in this period. And you know, by the way, he's not Palestinian, he's Turkish. But that becomes the be all and end all excuse for anything he wants to say. And so as a result of the 7th of October, he can say America owned 9 11, deserved it, etc. And all I can say is thank you teachers union. Because he's got millions of young men who are following this thing, who know nothing about world history, who know nothing about American history, who have no idea how lucky they are to be here. And the current blowing through this is a marriage right now of Islamism, not Islam. Islamism. And the far left, they actually, there's a term for it, it's actually called the watermelon revolution, right? The red being the communists and the green being the Islamism. And by the way, that's the same union that gave us the mullahs in Iran. If you look into it, those two were aligned in 1979. This is not unprecedented. And the commonality is America sucks. Let's recognize that it's a problem on
Jessica Guitarlove
the right and the left with the Israel issue. And there's new polling out from Pew. 60% of adults have an unfavorable view. You're ignore. Well, you're ignoring what is going on in the fracturing of our relationship with Israel in general.
Paul Morrow
No, hold on. But I didn't say anything about the right. And I don't like what's in 20 either. You know what I mean? But this idea that it all comes back to, you know what? I got to be elected wherever I run. And 911 was deserved because I don't like the Israelis.
Greg Gutfeld
All right, we got to go. Yelling at me. RFK Jr in demand for the midterms.
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Paul Morrow
a White House official telling Politico that RFK Jr is one of the most quote, requested surrogates on the campaign trail this cycle. The secretary is also launching a podcast soon that will dive into Maha mania. So, Jesse, you tell us that you're a fine figure of a man every commercial break. Are you healthy? Do you follow the Maha thing or what's going on?
Jesse Waters
Yeah, I'm into Maha. I like what they do with the food pyramid. They fixed it. They got the candy and soda out of the food stamps. They took a lot of the chemicals and food dyes out of the food and made school lunches healthier. There's a lot that they're doing. But he's been really under the radar. I would get him out there and I'd get his shirt off.
Paul Morrow
Well, I think that's the point.
Jesse Waters
That's the point.
Paul Morrow
I don't get the jeans for some reason. I don't get the working out in the jeans, but that's a different issue. Just what you got.
Jessica Guitarlove
I love the part of the Maha movement that supports going and tanning beds. That's my, my favorite part. Always said this, though. Democrats should be talking about the food and safety issues, especially moms care about this a lot. Getting the dyes out of your kids food. Biden did do some restrictions. They're doing more. Put him at USDA though. Take them out of hhs.
Paul Morrow
Dana, does it fail when it's coercive? That's the thing people don't like. And everybody goes back to the vaccines, right?
Jessica Guitarlove
Well, I think. Well, yes. And that's why I think that's why he's been under the radar. He's a little bit of a double edged sword. Excellent on food, health, healthcare, the price transparency issue, food pyramid. But you start talking about vaccines and it's the other way around. So it's super strong feelings on both sides of that. And so that's why maybe the podcast is the best thing.
Paul Morrow
Greg, do you believe in UFOs?
Greg Gutfeld
Yes, I do. That's where I came from. Look, health and fitness was free money on the table for Republicans. It was one of those great things that makes your life better that the Democrats deemed problematic. Remember, the entire speech movement became a movement of the right because speech was problematic. The basic tenets of law and order, family responsibility, civil behavior, all these things that the Democrats just bristled at, including health and fitness, which they had decided was some kind of like, emblem of evil white oppression, patriarchy, whatever. We took it.
Paul Morrow
And let's not lose sight of the fact that he's a Kennedy. And so he has the pedigree of a Democratic holy family. And so, you know, ostensibly he can reach across the aisle. All right, that was a quick one. Coming up, if you have a crying child, you'll want to pay attention. Our very own Jessica has a superpower to get them to shut up. Doesn't work on Jesse.
Jessica Guitarlove
Jessica?
Jesse Waters
Jessica, are you there?
Jessica Guitarlove
Jessica?
Parents are yelling my name. Jessica. To stop children from melting down. Dana. Who knew it was so soothing?
Well, I mean, it works with Jesse every day. So, I mean, I think it's a. Anyway, when I saw this, I was like, that's super cute. We have to do it as a segment.
Greg Gutfeld
They only showed one.
Jessica Guitarlove
There's a lot. It's a trend.
It is a trend. It's happening everywhere. You try it at home.
Greg Gutfeld
I tried it. It works. But when you yell Geraldo. Oh, man, everybody leaves Jesse.
Jesse Waters
I usually yell Juan. Juan.
Paul Morrow
You'll know it works when the President yells it at Chuck Schumer.
Jessica Guitarlove
That'll be perfect.
Jesse Waters
President's a big fan of yours, huh?
Jessica Guitarlove
Even when I'm not on, he's still mad. Okay, One More Thing is up next.
Jesse Waters
It's time now for One More Thing. Greg.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, tonight we got a great show. Cat Timp. Adam Hunter, Kevin o', Leary, Lisa Booth. That's tonight. Let's do this. Animals are great. Animals are great. Animals are great.
Brett Hume
With your special guest, Brett Hume, going to the LA Zoo, where Charlie the sloth show the sloth, for God's sake. Turn snack time into a leisurely upside down feast. You know, Dana, sloths have a four chamber digestive system. So it has something in common with you. Not spilling any secrets there, Dana. Like my good friend Harold Ford Jr eats mainly leaves, buds and twigs. It's an upside down world, that little sloth Charlie.
Jessica Guitarlove
Cows have four stomachs too.
Brett Hume
I don't care. Stop talking to me.
Jessica Guitarlove
I guess I'm not the Lovely Molly Hyman 1. Okay. Hey. Jesse's mom gave me a text and I get to read it. I guess we don't have a thing. So this is about Purple State. She had a sneak peek. She said I cried at the end. Delighted. Character creations, blah, blah, blah. She loved it. Your own roots were made to be so present and precious. I loved it. Thank you for reading Ann Waters Purple State, book two. I'm just adding Houston, Texas, Dallas, Texas and St. Louis, Missouri at danaporino.com danaprino books.com purplestate all right, let's go around the world.
Jesse Waters
Quickly. We don't need the animation.
Greg Gutfeld
Look at your stupid head.
Jesse Waters
You want to see? This is the burning of the Judas tradition. They do it in Mexico. Dates back to Spain. Stupid Judas. Can't trust them.
Paul Morrow
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FOX News Podcasts | April 8, 2026
In this episode of The Five, hosts Jesse Waters, Paul Morrow, Jessica Guitarlove, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld dissect President Trump’s recently negotiated ceasefire with Iran, which centers on reopening the Strait of Hormuz and the complex geopolitical aftermath. The panel debates the nature and impact of the truce, Trump’s rhetoric, media narratives, policy mechanics, and even wades into domestic political issues and cultural debates. The episode’s tone is conversational, candid, and at times, sharply humorous, blending news analysis with characteristic jabs and riffs.
Dana Perino [01:10]:
“The president absolutely has the moral high ground over the Iranian terrorist regime. And for you to even suggest otherwise is frankly insulting.”
Jessica Guitarlove [05:33]:
“There is no ceasefire… the White House announces cease fire and missiles raining down on the Israelis.”
Paul Morrow [11:08]:
“If you are willing… I want to hear the solution. Because sometime between three and five years, maybe less, there's going to be an ICBM with a nuclear warhead with New York's name on it in Iran, and that's going to be a problem for the next president.”
Greg Gutfeld [14:01]:
“Trump is a two hour drive to an hour at the beach, meaning that the ride is can be bumpy, noisy, maybe the AC is out. But you know, when you get to the destination, it's worth it... the outcome is pretty good. Look what happened to Iran. It's his style, you know, it's their only cogent response to what's going on because they can't talk about the deeds.”
Jessica Guitarlove [23:20]:
“That's still a very serious thing to do. On top of threatening civilian infrastructure, which does constitute a war crime.”
Greg Gutfeld [23:32]:
“The mullahs ended Persian civilization. Hello to the people of Iran. They feel like Persian civilization has been completely taken over.”
Paul Morrow [32:35]:
(On Hasan Piker): “He is doing the stuff that we talked about in the eight block. He's using blame Israel as the panacea for every ill in the world. It is Israel's fault, Period, End of story… that's the same union that gave us the mullahs in Iran.”
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