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Dana Perino
You know that one friend who somehow knows everything about money?
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Paul Morrow
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
Now imagine they live in your phone. Say hey to Experian, your big financial friend. It's the app that helps you check your FICO score, find ways to save, and basically feel like a financial genius. And guess what? It's totally free. So go on, download the Experian app. Trust me, having a BFF like this is a total game changer.
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Jessica Tarlov
What is Dadication? The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariona. We call him Dae Date for short. Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together. We did a good job. That's dedication.
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Jesse Waters
Find out more@fatherhood.gov Brought to you by.
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Paul Morrow
The U.S. department of Health and Human Services and the Ed Council.
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Dana Perino
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the vibe. President Trump is keeping him guessing and giving a big deadline on whether the US Military is going to get involved in the deadly conflict between Israel and Iran. Now, this comes amid a massive escalation. Officials say more than 70 people were injured after an Iranian missile barrage slammed into a hospital in Israel. The IDF striking back by targeting more Iran nuclear sites, including a reactor. President Trump meeting all day with his top intelligence officials. And Caroline Levitt is sharing the president's latest thinking. Have a message directly from the president, and I quote, based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations and that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks. Iran has all that it needs to achieve a nuclear weapon. All they need is a decision from the Supreme Leader to do that. And it would take a couple of weeks to complete the production of that weapon, which would, of course, pose an existential threat not just to Israel, but to the United States and to the entire world. The conflict between Israel and Iran, causing the view to make some pretty outrageous comments and comparisons will be. Goldberg just stepped in it. I'm sorry, but where the Iranian regime.
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Jesse Waters
Is today.
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Jessica Tarlov
Keep hanging black people.
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Dana Perino
So it is not even. Yeah, I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live In Iran. Not if you're black.
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Paul Morrow
Not for everybody.
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Greg Gutfeld
Not if you're black.
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Dana Perino
Earlier today, I imagined what it would have been like if you had been on this, on the set and what you would have said to Whoopi when she said that.
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Jessica Tarlov
Well, her reaction is born of identity politics. If you help these Jews, you're gonna hurt the blacks. Which is weird coming from a lady named Goldberg. But I believe on the View they have a rule. One panelist has to say something so crazy every day that everybody else looks sane. And that day was Whoopies and Joy Behar and Sunny Hostin suddenly don't look totally bat poop nuts. But I think she's like, it seems to ME Since Trump 2015, 2016, she's now just operating on non conscious thinking. Everything is a reflex. And she says what's easily retrieval. It's Whoopi AI. It's not even a real Whoopi anymore. She just has race, race, race, race, race. And she just pulls out of it. You know, one of the many benefits of Trump is his refusal to land in the world of the half opinion. You know, he thinks it through. You know, there are both sides, both sides traffic in half opinions. We don't want war half opinion. We don't want Iran to get the nuclear bomb a half opinion. And those are the easiest opinions to have because no one's gonna disagree with you on either one because you're not discussing the risk of both decisions. Both decisions have risks. So in a weird way, half opinions for are propaganda. Telling the story without a risk is a lie and it helps you advance your cause. That's propaganda. So then you look at Trump. This is a good example. You know, people can say Americans could drop bunker busters to destroy Iran's facilities. That's a half opinion. What does Trump do? He says, do they work? You know, he thinks it through by asking the question that bureaucrats don't ask because they don't want to sound stupid. But he's actually asking, does it work? And I think that's why we elected him. One of the reasons is that he isn't going to do anything where he's going to lose. That's why he didn't believe that he lost in 2020. And he's right. But he won't step in until he knows it's going to work. And so you kind of, you voted for him. You got to trust him.
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Dana Perino
The other thing I was thinking about Paul is he's got a remarkable skill of keeping people guessing, but being very Transparent.
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Paul Morrow
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
And it must be very confounding to people in Iran who are like trying to figure this guy out, but he's basically showing you his work but also keeping it a secret.
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Paul Morrow
Yeah. When you think about it, he's talking about a deal. Right. And they're sitting in Tehran saying, deal, what deal? What are the options that we have here? Because if you think about it, where do we stand? Our red line is absolutely no enrichment. Right. And we're supposed to have unfettered access to all the enrichment uranium, Uranium enrichment sites. That's the deal we got now. That's what the AIEI is supposed to be doing right now. And they told us to go pound sand. I think really what's going on, I'm not advocating for any of the positions here because at the end of the day, you have to remember something. They have a lot more facts than we do up on Capitol Hill. Trump is operating off of far more facts than we are. So at the end of the day, as Craig said, we elected them, we got to trust them. Right. But the immediate issue is Ferdow. I mean, that's just it. So you don't have to go all the way. People talk about regime change, everything else, you just got to mitigate the immediate issue. If you do that and take, like I said, take the deal off the table, if you get rid of the immediate threat, well, then you bought some time. Now ultimately, regime change is where this thing has to devolve to. At the end of the day, whether you like it or not, you have an adversary who cannot exist without that bomb. The mullahs cannot list long term without that bomb. They learn the lessons of Gaddafi. We need this thing. They're going to keep trying. That's just all there is to it. So you got this adversary, they say they want to kill you. They're trying to get the bomb at the end of the day, at some point they got to go. But you don't need that right now. You just got to mitigate the immediate problem, which is fertile. What I think he's doing is, and that's why I think you can see this two week window. The last thing he wants is any American blood here. And right now the Iranians still do have some offensive capacity. They do have the ability to fire missiles, maybe hit some American assets. And in many ways, almost worst, almost worse is hitting some of our adversaries, excuse me, some of our allies. You get some dead Europeans and et cetera, in some place inside the red zone in Iraq, we got an international megillah. That's the last thing he wants. I think he's buying time. Waiting till they are. They are out of that capacity. And then my own opinion, I think that's when he moves. And then ultimately, long term, if you notice, we hit their internal security. That's the besieged. That's the one who keep their people down. The Israelis took that out yesterday. They're also now hacking the media and saying, rise up, rise up. Unlike what we saw during the Green Revolution, I think long term, that's the second stage. But the first stage is fertile. And from where I sit, you've got to mitigate that.
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Jessica Tarlov
Dana, can I ask Paul a question? It's important.
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Dana Perino
Yes, sure.
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Jessica Tarlov
What's a megillah?
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Paul Morrow
Do I have to explain? All the NYPD is.
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Dana Perino
I don't know what it is either. I thought I would look.
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Paul Morrow
You never heard the term magilla?
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Dana Perino
No. What is it?
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Paul Morrow
It's like, related to Fagazi.
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Dana Perino
He said Paul used a phrase, pound sand. I have a feeling that if they do go through with this, that's exactly what this would be to be pounding some sand.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah.
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Greg Gutfeld
When he says it could last two weeks, I'm looking at what two weeks is away from. And that'd be July 4th. So I could see Trump lighting up the skies over Iran on the 4th of July, or I could see him doing it this weekend. Maybe he's bluffing. I have no idea. But it looks like it's moving pretty quickly, because if you take out the underground nuclear site, you can't just then just sit back and watch and let the Iranians retaliate and hit your bases and. And hit your ships. You have to have a pretty significant bombing campaign to neutralize any sort of Iranian offensive capacity. That's missiles, command and control. You gotta hit everything. So you're just not a sitting duck when we think about negotiations. Trump's made it pretty clear this thing's either going peacefully or violently. And the decisions. The ayatollah. Ayatollah is 86 years old. He's been in power for three days.
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Paul Morrow
Decades.
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Greg Gutfeld
He is a religious revolutionary. Is this the kind of guy that's going to negotiate? He's a proud old man that's probably going to go down fighting. Now, the question is, if you hit these underground facilities, does he stay in power? Can he stay in power? Can he wield power in a country where you've lost your ballistic missiles and you've lost your only leverage, which is your nuke? I don't know. Should you leave them in power and wait for a coup? Or do the Israelis get so pissed after hospital strikes that they're going to just go in and launch a decapitation strike? I don't know. The thing about Iraq and Iran that makes it a lot different is the geography. If you look at Iran, it's surrounded by mountain ranges, all right? So it's very hard for foreign fighters to pour in from all over the region. And not only do they have the borders that are surrounded by mountains, I mean, look at that. You have two major deserts in there. So once you get over the mountains and through, you have deserts you have to go through. So this is not Iraq. And also if you do, God help us if you do go in and there is some sort of coup and you have to maintain some sort of government there. Remember what happened in Iraq, the de Baathification that. That backfired. We fired everyone in the military, every cop, every civil administrator, every burrocat. And then all those guys got pissed off and then left with a gun to form a militia. And there's no one to run the country. So things have been learned or since all options are on the table, Dana. I could see Trump just letting the Israelis get their hands even dirtier and launch commando raids into this site. So when he says all options on the table, they are, and I agree. I trust Donald Trump to make the right decision here. Whatever he does, I think it'll be the right call.
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Dana Perino
What's also interesting, Jessica, is the polling that came out last night that shows a great majority of the American people are concerned that Iran could have a nuclear weapon and that they support action. And I think what's interesting, you could get online, and you can go way down deep, and you could be online for two days straight while you're sitting at home waiting to come back to work until the medicine kicks in. And then you get a poll like that, and you're like, okay, actually, people are pretty sane.
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Jesse Waters
Yeah. I think another question that the Fox poll asked was about, does the Israeli state, Does the Israeli strikes make the world more dangerous? And 59% said yes to that. So you can, as usual with polling, you can find the answer that you want in there. And I would say it's a uniform feeling that people know that Iran is an adversary, that they don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. But once you start having a conversation about regime change, Americans get very skittish about this. And it was the first time, at least, that I had heard a senator mention it. This morning, Thom Tillis was being interviewed and he said it's time for regime change. And that is something that really flies in the face of Donald Trump, the peacetime president or Donald Trump as the Kim Canner. I think that if this is packaged as we are going to take out their nuclear weapons, but we are not trying to take over their country and we're not going to get engaged in decades long wars that we have no business being in. People remember what that was like and they don't enjoy it. It's also interesting to me. Senator Mark Warner, who is the ranking Democrat on the Intel Committee, was echoing what Tulsi Gabbard had testified to back in March where she essentially said Iran is not on the precipice of having this weapon.
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Dana Perino
Do you believe that?
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Jesse Waters
I, I don't know. I don't think Mark Warner has any reason to back up Tulsi Gabbard for fun. Right. He wasn't, he didn't vote for her. He doesn't think that highly of her. And so I believe that Bibi Netanyahu is taking advantage of the situation and he knows that Trump is going to back him up and that Trump believes that the Israelis have earned this. I'm going to use the point, Greg, that I was supposed to make two days ago, that he has faith in the Israelis to be doing what's in, quote, unquote, the best interest of the region. But you're going to have a real issue if this turns into a redux putting aside the topography of Iran, of what we have already seen before, and you're not going to have an American appetite for it. I also wanted to note, I was listening to Admiral Stravitas. I always mess up pronouncing his name and he was talking about the implications of hitting Fordo. And he said you could essentially be creating a dirty bomb. So you explode this nuclear facility and then you have enriched uranium just flying around in the sky and you could be poisoning people. And that's something that I hadn't heard discussed before and should be a consideration. But if Israel can essentially get rid of their missile capacity, just, you know, wear them out, maybe that's what the two weeks is. We'll see what they have after two weeks.
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Jessica Tarlov
Can I throw in one curveball at the end here? Yes. Here's the magilla. If Ukraine had kept their nuclear weapon.
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Dana Perino
This wouldn't have happened.
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Jessica Tarlov
There wouldn't have been an.
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Paul Morrow
That's the Gaddafi.
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Dana Perino
Right. But also they were told that we would protect them if we took away their nuclear weapons.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
So we didn't.
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Jessica Tarlov
Maybe we don't do that again.
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Dana Perino
I gotta say, I was away for two weeks. That was not the take I expected. I am going to have a one heck of a commercial break. Up next, the dysfunction among Democrats is getting worse. Some are calling their party's DNC chair weak and whiny.
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Jessica Tarlov
Joe. It's funny. I just want to love somebody who.
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Paul Morrow
Won'T even hold in my heart. I just.
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Dana Perino
Psst.
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Jesse Waters
Your payments are showing.
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Paul Morrow
But with Apple Cash, your payments are private by design.
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Jesse Waters
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Paul Morrow
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Dana Perino
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Paul Morrow
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Jessica Tarlov
Hey.
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Greg Gutfeld
Man, don't you go.
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Paul Morrow
If it's another day, you can bet it's another dumpster fire for the Democrats. Sorry, Jess. According to the New York Times, the DNC is in chaos and desperate for cash. Things are so bad, top officials are actually talking about borrowing money just to pay the bills. Separate report quotes an anonymous DNC insider who called the party's chair, Ken Martin, as looking weak. And as if all that were not embarrassing enough, the Democrats launched a YouTube channel that can barely crack a thousand views. Check this out.
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Dana Perino
Every morning, the daily blueprint will cut through the noise and give you the real story. What you need to know today, what Democrats are doing about it, and how you can fight back and help Democrats win.
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Paul Morrow
But some folks in the party, like James Carville, are keeping the faith.
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Greg Gutfeld
Our Democratic Party has been the most effective political party in the history of the world.
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Paul Morrow
It started Social Security, it bought civil.
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Greg Gutfeld
Rights, it bought women's rights, it bought gay rights. It bought the last party to bring.
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Paul Morrow
A balanced budget to the United States of America. Okay?
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Greg Gutfeld
It shepherded the United States through the.
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Paul Morrow
Greatest age of prosperity it ever had.
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Greg Gutfeld
The 90s. The Democratic Party really does not need me to defend it.
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Paul Morrow
It has a record.
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Jessica Tarlov
It does.
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Greg Gutfeld
As good as you can imagine.
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Paul Morrow
I'm not sure Carvel's the answer here. Dana, let me come to you. You know this ecosystem better than anybody. The DC funding ecosystem here. What do you make of this? They've never had trouble raising money before.
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Dana Perino
It's the Democrats, Magilla. I've tried to use it in a sentence. Don't know if it was correct for James Carville to be Talking about the best achievements of the party having been made before the current chairman was ever was even born. That identifies the problem right there. Every day I wake up and I think, what can I compliment in the Democratic Party today? What are the green shoots? Where are they doing well? And then I read, I didn't read this article today on FoxNews.com I didn't read it in the Wall Street Journal or New York Post. I read it in the New York Times because the New York Times said, you've got a huge problem. You can't raise any money. Nobody wants to be a part of you. Your brand is toxic. And you have the fact that the Biden cover up continues to have a ripple effect. It's like the, it was dropped in the middle of the ocean and it continues on and it is going to swamp them for a long time to come. The credibility of the entire Kamala Harris campaign is weighing down the situation. And imagine you're a donor. You say, how dare you? Oh, you want to send George Clooney to ask me for my money again? You guys lied to us. You lied to us until we saw with our own eyes at the debate and then you were like, oh yeah, he must really get out. And they are in a situation of their own making. It is a real magilla.
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Paul Morrow
And you know, they paid Beyonce all that money and everything else. So, Jess, I got to come to you. I mean, in a lot of ways, the money is the purest metric you could have. Is this a referendum?
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Jesse Waters
To some degree for sure. What I think is most interesting is they're not having a small dollar donations problem. So the grassroots is still giving. They're having a big donor problem. To Dana's point, the folks that you go to and you ask for million dollar checks or to do a huge fundraiser that's going to bring in 5, 10, $15 million. And I think that those people who want to spend their hard earned money on Democratic victories want to see a new game plan. They want to see what all the buzz is about with Ken Martin, who's the new head of the dnc, who beat out Ben Wichler, is an incredibly accomplished organizer. He runs the Wisconsin Democratic Party. And they want to see more evidence now in terms of how it's been going for Democrats. We've been doing really well in all the elections that have happened since the general election. So overperforming sometimes by 30, 40 points. And that makes a difference to people for sure. We're also looking at a Republican Party that's not Doing that. Well, I mean, Donald Trump right now, -18 on the economy, -30 on inflation. Those are the issues that people go and vote on. In defense of the YouTube, I went on the GOP's YouTube latest videos. 215 views. 137 views. 433 views. 281 views and 250 views. So both parties need a better YouTube game.
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Paul Morrow
All right, fair enough. But let me ask you this, Jesse, let me come to you. What is it that you think the big donors, which is what we're talking about here. What brings them back? What are they looking for?
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Greg Gutfeld
I'd wait. I wouldn't give right now. I'd wait until you win the midterms, and then I'd give it to Gavin Newsom because you can't give it to a woman. They're over two with winner and Jessica with money, too. It doesn't matter.
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Jesse Waters
Trust me.
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Jessica Tarlov
No, usually they handle the finances.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, in your house. Do they? That's why you're broke. You know, the YouTube thing. It's funny. You can't just put a blonde on TV and have it be a hit. It's not Fox, okay? They need to have a little more talent, Jessica. And Carville is saying the Democrat. The Democratic Party started the civil war. Okay, it's not all hits Carville.
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Jessica Tarlov
It's not.
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Greg Gutfeld
You have to be a DNC chairman. If you have to be wealthy, well connected, and fun at fundraisers, you need someone like Terry McAuliffe. You can't put Shaggy from Scooby Doo up there who got humiliated by the hog who looks like Tinkerbell or weighs less than Tinkerbell. And so I don't know, Jessica. I would just wait it out. And you might not even win the House because I have a new poll. It says there are crumbs of comfort for the gop. Not saying right wave, but a lot of people are saying the short term turbulence that Trump is saying is going to be worth it if it ends up good economically. And a lot of Democrats are economic nationalists, just like Donald Trump. They support deportations. They support Trump on immigration. Catch this.
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Jesse Waters
Are you reading Playbook?
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Greg Gutfeld
A quarter of Kamala Harris voters approve of Trump's immigration policy.
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Paul Morrow
Oh, my God. Go. All right, that's a mic drop moment. Greg Gutfeld, let me ask you this.
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Dana Perino
Sure.
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Paul Morrow
I. I have a theory here.
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Jessica Tarlov
What do you got, Paul?
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Greg Gutfeld
The.
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Paul Morrow
What do you got?
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Jessica Tarlov
Spit it out.
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Dana Perino
Okay.
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Paul Morrow
Is that his moral.
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Jessica Tarlov
Spit it out.
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Jesse Waters
He's awful.
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Paul Morrow
Where I get to HR man.
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Jessica Tarlov
This issue. Okay? I'M going to be frank with you.
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Paul Morrow
You should see my Guel, by the way, which I'm taking mercy on you.
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Jessica Tarlov
You see my bread, Hume.
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Paul Morrow
All right, all your great donors. That's not. That's not a real impersonation. That's you in the old days. All right, I have a theory here. The big donors are scared. And I think they're scared because, number one, they don't want to lose their money. But number two, there's a lot of investigations coming. Would you donate to people that are throwing Molotov cocktails at cops if you.
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Jessica Tarlov
Would not donate to a party that is picking the losing side on every issue, that is lied and betrayed, Betrayed their voters, saying Joe was never sharper, and then hid the their incompetent replacement until the very end? This is so. It's financially so dire. Maxine Waters is selling her wigs. Nancy Pelosi is now only using domestic Botox.
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Greg Gutfeld
Oh, my God.
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Jessica Tarlov
And Kamala Harris, I mean, this is probably good. She's cutting back to one nightly box of wine. So good for you. Good for her. But I think a lot of these really rich people, they're not. They're not leftists. They're centrists, with the exception of Soros. And after the last five years, it's. To your point. What do you see? The Democratic Party is not your normal party. The rest of us have developed an allergy to them. You know, like we get around and we're allergic because it's all about compulsory thinking and nobody wants to be told what to believe. And then you tell us we lack empathy when we don't agree with your beliefs. Right now, if you look at the Democratic Party, it's a collection of appeasement signals. You know, one group is trying to appease the other group, and it creates this passivity and this cowardice where they hope. You know, each group hopes they'll be eaten last. And the loudest in this group are white women. So they. Because they have most to lose, they think that their whiteness is gonna get them targeted. So they're the ones that are most pro trans, most pro pro PLO or Palestinian. They're the ones that are acting most theatrical because they fear that they are the next target. So right now, the Democratic Party has become an orgy of appeasement. It's led by awfuls, affluent, white liberal females. It happened with BLM and all the protests. There's all these crazy white ladies. That's the problem with the party. Nobody's going to want to give Money to crazy white ladies.
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Greg Gutfeld
So what should we do with the crazy white ladies?
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Jessica Tarlov
I think alone, I think it's an identity standoff. We have an identity standoff in the Democratic Party. You've got to call a truce and say, look, I should be able to say what I believe. And if you don't like it, that's fine because that's the way it is. A Republican Party. Look at everybody yelling at each other about Iran, Iraq.
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Greg Gutfeld
Like a Mexican standoff, but with white women. Yes, got it.
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Dana Perino
Exactly.
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Paul Morrow
All right. I don't know what to say to that.
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Jessica Tarlov
I don't know what to say.
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Paul Morrow
Up next, anti ice. We got to get out of this segment, please, for my own sake. Anti ICE agitators are swarming Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles. Los Angeles. Up next, if I'm still here.
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Dana Perino
The.
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Jesse Waters
Genre is the most incredible.
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Greg Gutfeld
Take me out to the ICE raids. I butchered that left wing activists causing a scene at Dodgers Stadium in la accusing agents of trying to get into the ballpark. This lady sure got into the spirit of America's pastime. The judges, the Dodgers. But DHS is squashing the fake news. Quote, this had nothing to do with the Dodgers. CBP vehicles were in the stadium parking lot very briefly, unrelated to any operation or enforcement. And I says they were never there. Meanwhile, this one Democrat thinks he can actually convince ICE agents to stop the deportations with the power of persuasion.
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Paul Morrow
If you have any decency, quit now. Go do something else. Because just doing what you were told has been the justification for some of the worst whores and crimes against humanity. And to my Republican colleagues who say, I don't want any undocumented people in this country, I actually agree with you. So let's document every single one of them.
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Greg Gutfeld
But hey, it's no wonder why the left's losing their minds when Democrat lawmakers are sharing anti ICE ads like this.
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Paul Morrow
We're rounding up illegals.
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Jessica Tarlov
She was born here. She's a citizen.
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Greg Gutfeld
I don't care. She looks like one of them.
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Jessica Tarlov
But don't worry, when she's in prison.
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Greg Gutfeld
In El Salvador, she'll have lots of company. Jessica, you like that ad?
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Jesse Waters
Yeah, I made it.
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Paul Morrow
Did you?
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Jesse Waters
No, I don't think I'm allowed.
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Greg Gutfeld
I don't know what you do when you're off site.
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Jesse Waters
Second I leave here, I just go and make attack ads. It's kind of like a fun, you know, it's a whatever ad, but it's capturing something that people feel about what's going on right now. And it's perfectly encapsulated in the breakdown. And I appreciate that the Fox poll was so specific about this. Trump is plus 7 on border security and minus 7 on immigration. People are thrilled that the border is closed. When you talk about the 24% of Kamala Harris voters that like the immigration policy, sure, they like that there's a closed border there, but they don't like the way that ICE is going about this. And I give credit to Tom Homan. He was on the Daily this morning, showed up with the New York Times, sat down, gave a very thoughtful half an hour interview. And he's very clear about this, that while they're trying to prioritize the worst first, they are not going to stop the work raids. Donald Trump's, you know, layoff, agriculture, layoff hotels. It's not happening. He doesn't think 3,000 people a day is a ridiculous goal, million people a year, doesn't talk about the economic toll, the billions of dollars that we're going to lose as an American economy, the 25 billion that these people here are undocumented pay into our Social Security system, even. And that's going to have really serious repercussions for American society.
- [27:11]
Greg Gutfeld
So Jessica just confessed. She says they're here to work and she wants to give them all amnesty.
- [27:16]
Jesse Waters
I absolutely.
- [27:18]
Greg Gutfeld
That's what I heard. Did you hear that?
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Paul Morrow
And get them on the voting rolls. I know you didn't say that, but obviously this guy's talking about amnesty, obviously the end game. And if nothing else, you got to make sure they stay in the census rolls. Look, here's the thing. The protesters, I think, are really the issue here, because at the current rate, the deportations that are going on right now, whether it's the restaurant and farming industry or not, are barely making a dent. The numbers are vanishingly small compared to what we took in. So if we're going to use that metric right now, that's not really hurting anything. From where I see 12 to 20 million, the numbers right now are not even budging that. But number two, the protesters that we see who are throwing Molotovs, who are tagging up all the streets and everything else, this is where I think this issue really hits the road, because let's put it in the economic terms that we're talking about, somebody has to clean all that up. Nobody ever talks about that. You know how expensive it is to clean up. We sort of have to occupy Wall Street. It costs like a million dollars a block just to clean up after all of that. Imagine what's going to happen In Portland, Seattle, Louisiana, all of these places, when they destroy, they're breaking up the curbs.
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Jesse Waters
To throw the after the military parade.
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Paul Morrow
The military is not out there breaking up the curbs and throwing rocks. And I'm sorry, but they're not. And there's a difference between holding a parade, Jessica, and destruction. And I think that you got to whatever the metrics are relative to the deportation, the destruction aspect right now is what the Democrats own.
- [28:42]
Greg Gutfeld
Greg, let's just pretend you're single, okay. And you're dating an illegal.
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Jessica Tarlov
I do that on weekends.
- [28:47]
Greg Gutfeld
And you catch her cheating on you. Do you call ice?
- [28:50]
Jessica Tarlov
Oh, that is a great question. That is a great question. And I won't answer it because it's beneath me. Very few things are beneath me. I'm still thinking about that analogy with the parade to a riot. It was not a good analogy, Jessica.
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Jesse Waters
Destruction of property.
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, yeah. Destruction of property and a parade, two different things. Maybe we can get the illegals to clean it up. Would you be okay with that? All right. So no matter what the polls are on Trump's immigration, the public sentiment regarding Biden's anti American policies of unfettered invasion negatively dwarf that which is now the thing that we are cleaning up and the cleanup is isn't easy. It just requires a lot of action and fidelity to principle. That fidelity will come will be subject to opinions on its harshness. That's what happens when you do adult stuff. Let's face it, most people right now aren't used to adult stuff. They aren't used to the harshness of it because we went through with for five years of Anything Goes. Anything Goes. They didn't call it mass amnesty, but it sure felt like it. They conflated illegal immigration with legal to make you feel guilty if you were against illegal immigration. So things are now appearing harsh. No, this is just the way it works. We have a border and we can deport. That's how it's going to go.
- [30:15]
Dana Perino
Dana P. So I listened to the Tom Homan interview this morning on the Daily as well. And first of all, they go on. They'll do any show. They'll talk to anybody. This is so different from the Biden administration when they couldn't even get anybody to come on here. Pete Buttigieg, he'd show up and that was about is not Tom Homan's job to worry about the United States economy. That is somebody else's job. His job is to secure the border and to deal with immigration. And that's what he's doing. And one of the points he made is that Congress passed these laws. Do they want us to carry out the rule of law or not? And if they want to change the law, they are welcome to try. But nothing you have from any of these Democrats is saying, okay, we have an idea. What they want more than anything is to get arrested by ICE so that they can put that in their fundraising videos. Nobody is saying, imagine this saying, guys, let's go up to the White House and let's tell the president we can make a deal on dreamers today. You want to. You want to do something for the dreamers. He was willing to do that back in 2017, 2018. Why not try? They're doing nothing but wanting to disrupt ICE operations. If they're worried about the economy, they're worried about those visas. Say, let's get with the farmers Union, let's go to the White House. He'll meet with. He might even meet with the Iranians. Why not just go and try to do something productive instead of doing press conferences where you get on camera because you say the F word about ice.
- [31:38]
Jessica Tarlov
What's the F word?
- [31:40]
Jesse Waters
Frank Fugazi.
- [31:41]
Greg Gutfeld
Frank Fugazi, Professor Obama is back at the lecture hall to warn America about dictator Donald Trump.
- [32:06]
Jessica Tarlov
Like a liberal groundhog, Obama's popping up to warn us about how Trump's turning into a dictator.
- [32:13]
Paul Morrow
We start drifting into something that is not consistent with American democracy. It is consistent with autocracies. We're not there yet completely, but I.
- [32:30]
Jessica Tarlov
Think that.
- [32:35]
Dana Perino
We are dangerously close to.
- [32:38]
Paul Morrow
Normalizing behavior like that.
- [32:44]
Jessica Tarlov
Dana, he sounds so smart. I heard you. The moment he started talking, you let out the longest sigh because you know they're going to be pauses and he's.
- [32:52]
Dana Perino
Going to take a long time.
- [32:53]
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah. He's going to know that you're weighing on his words.
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Dana Perino
So one of the things is he comes out when the party's having problems. Right. So all of a sudden, now Biden is in trouble. Now he's out, out and about. And he was talking about populace. There's basically making fun of rich people in the Hamptons. I'm like, sir, have you seen your house on Martha's Vineyard? I don't think that's very far away from that. It's a little late to be brow beating rich liberals. Right. So I think that we did the earlier block where you saw all of these donors are like, I don't want to donate to this party. The other thing is what was lacking in that. I know people like him for so many reasons, and they can Turn to him like he's the wise elder statesman now. It must be hard to be the wise elder statesman and be like, wow, I'm the last great Democrat. But there's no energy.
- [33:37]
Jessica Tarlov
No.
- [33:38]
Dana Perino
And I think that is why I sighed.
- [33:40]
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah. You definitely side. It was obvious. You could hear that across town. Paul, is it helping the party to tell them to return to the rhetoric that helped them lose in 2024, like the dictator kind of stuff? It doesn't work on half the country. It's not gonna get any better.
- [33:56]
Paul Morrow
I don't think they have answers, you know. And is it me? He's looking banged up.
- [33:59]
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah.
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Paul Morrow
He's been having.
- [34:00]
Jessica Tarlov
It's the first round.
- [34:01]
Paul Morrow
Something I've never seen with him. He looks scared. Yeah.
- [34:04]
Jessica Tarlov
He needs.
- [34:05]
Paul Morrow
Right. And which. Something you don't associate with him. And I think that one of the things that's going on here is he feels it's slipping away. All right. I mean, if you look down, I mean, we didn't get it in that clip. But he talked about the things that he wants to strengthen the thing, the people he wants to rise up. Right. First of all, he name checked lawyers. So to me, that was a dog whistle to lawfare. All right. We've seen plenty of that. He's telling lawyers, rise up, gum up the works. Then he said universities. Now, what are the two universities that he's associated with as an undergrad? Columbia Law School, Harvard. What's been going on in those two? The culture wars are going there. He feels that slipping away as well. But the other one is doj, and this felt the most insidious to me. He said, doj, you have to listen to your better angels or one of these euphemisms. In other words, take the prosecutorial discretion away from the executive, which is Donald Trump, and make the cases you want to make. Don't make the cases that they're telling you to make. And I go back to one of the things we were talking about earlier. I think that they're a little concerned about some of the rocks that are going to be turned over here. I think that the current iteration of DOJ has made it very clear they're going to be looking backwards as well as forwards. And they just. He knows that that's where the power resides in this country to make these cases. And it felt to me like he feels it slipping away a little bit for the first time. I think a guy who's heard a lot of yes in his life is experiencing a bunch of no's.
- [35:20]
Jessica Tarlov
You know, Jess, you asked. You wanted me to ask you. You said you had some breaking news about the birth certificate.
- [35:26]
Greg Gutfeld
Yes, we now know the long form's fake, and we're doing that at 8. Excellent.
- [35:31]
Jessica Tarlov
Whole hour on it.
- [35:33]
Greg Gutfeld
How was your hour last night on Karen Reid, by the way?
- [35:35]
Jessica Tarlov
Oh, it flew by, I gotta tell you. Yeah, we had ice cream.
- [35:39]
Greg Gutfeld
I know why he's scared. I think Michelle's giving him a little Brigitte Macron. Watching him with his legs crossed, emasculated after the Michelle Obama podcast. It's like, come on, I could act smart if I wanted to. I really smart. I choose not to. I just choose to act honest. That didn't sound very good. But this guy gave birth to Joe Biden, then he gave us the coup, and then he gave us Iran armed to the teeth. I mean, Trump's dealing with all the problems. Medicare out of control. We're fixing all the problems that he started.
- [36:19]
Dana Perino
Jessica Simpson. Bowles.
- [36:20]
Jessica Tarlov
Jessica, if Trump derangement were a drug, it's like an old friend visiting the party and saying, forget drying out, let's go on a bender. Why don't you just get him off the drug?
- [36:32]
Jesse Waters
I haven't been dosing Barack personally anymore, and I didn't know what he was going to say, but this is definitely not the forum that I wanted or would want him to show up in. Like, I want Barack Obama from the Court of Gold documentary where he's talking to Anthony Edwards and Steph Curry about basketball. I want him talking about his music.
- [36:50]
Jessica Tarlov
Racist much?
- [36:51]
Jesse Waters
No, it was the Olympics.
- [36:52]
Jessica Tarlov
Oh, it has to be about basketball.
- [36:54]
Jesse Waters
There are basketball players. They're NBA fans.
- [36:57]
Jessica Tarlov
What? Disgusting.
- [36:59]
Greg Gutfeld
Stop.
- [37:00]
Jesse Waters
Don't. It was a good point. He should. He is one of the only luminary figures in the party who can actually be chill and hang out. So go on Joe Rogan and go on the Ovon. And they will do it. Well, he should, because they'll love him. They change their opinions depending on who's sitting with them anyway.
- [37:17]
Dana Perino
You're right.
- [37:18]
Jesse Waters
Thank you for Watch it back, though. I like that you admitted you're a moron again.
- [37:23]
Greg Gutfeld
Did I?
- [37:24]
Jesse Waters
Yeah, you did. Last week.
- [37:25]
Jessica Tarlov
It's like a romantic comedy. All right. Is AI making us dumber? Jesse says, what's AI?
- [37:43]
Greg Gutfeld
Good news for working family.
- [37:47]
Jesse Waters
Can using AI make you stupid? MIT did a study, and students who used artificial intelligence to write assays had lower brain activity than those who didn't. Greg, this makes complete sense. If you're on the phone longer, you're dumber.
- [37:59]
Jessica Tarlov
Why did you spell out mit? Look, you know what happens when you start using chat? GPT. GPT? Is that what it says? You stop using the news. But the funny thing is GPT is a summary of other news sites. But over time, people are going to stop going to those links and those news sites are going to fold. Then what is GPT going to scavenge? So the terrain is going to shrink and GPT is going to have no. And then it's the end of news. It'll just be us.
- [38:31]
Greg Gutfeld
I like that.
- [38:31]
Jesse Waters
Dana.
- [38:32]
Dana Perino
I think the more that you read, the less you have to, like, find other things, like having to do a crossword puzzle or a wordle or. All of those things are great, but they're being used so that you can engage your brain. But you can engage your brain anytime you want. Just pick up a book.
- [38:46]
Jesse Waters
Pick up a book.
- [38:46]
Jessica Tarlov
Pick up a book.
- [38:47]
Paul Morrow
You read a lot?
- [38:47]
Greg Gutfeld
Actually, I do, surprisingly. But I use it for. If I have a stupid question that I need information for the five, I'll be like, you know what president deported the most people? And it'll say, like, Barack Hussein Obama, And I'll just shove that in your face. But I don't get it. To write stuff for me. You're right. It makes you stupider. Is that a word? Yes, it is.
- [39:10]
Jessica Tarlov
Stupider.
- [39:10]
Greg Gutfeld
More stupider.
- [39:11]
Jessica Tarlov
Stupider.
- [39:12]
Paul Morrow
They said the same thing about Google, and I remember they said the same thing about calculators. When calculators became ubiquitous, they said, you know what? Nobody's going to be able to add a row of figures anymore. And that's not true either. What it is going to do, it's something of an equalizer, really, because it's. It's a low entry point, like, anybody can use it. And so it kind of puts us all on the same plane.
- [39:30]
Greg Gutfeld
Like, now women can be smarter than us.
- [39:32]
Paul Morrow
Well, let's not get crazy. Let's maintain. Bottom line is this. It's a tool. And what's going to happen is the people who use it the most effectively are going to be our overlords.
- [39:41]
Greg Gutfeld
Overlords.
- [39:42]
Jesse Waters
You know what?
- [39:43]
Greg Gutfeld
It.
- [39:43]
Jesse Waters
It is good for parenting.
- [39:46]
Jessica Tarlov
Oh, you're a great parent, Jessica.
- [39:47]
Jesse Waters
I'm an Internet parent. Okay, one more thing's up next.
- [39:51]
Paul Morrow
Something in the orange tells me we're not done. The Iranian.
- [40:04]
Dana Perino
It's time for one more tonight.
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Jessica Tarlov
I got a great show. Dr. Drew, Michael Malice, Cat tampin tires. That's tonight. Let's do this. All right. We're gonna guess the sounds. I'm gonna play it, then we'll go around the table. Play the sounds.
- [40:27]
Paul Morrow
All right, Paul, sounds like your audience last night. After that make a wish joke. I'm going with some version of a bird. A toucan.
- [40:36]
Jessica Tarlov
Toucan.
- [40:37]
Jesse Waters
I think it's a dog.
- [40:38]
Greg Gutfeld
I'm going with seal.
- [40:40]
Dana Perino
Muskrat.
- [40:41]
Jessica Tarlov
Muskrat. Let's play the tape. It's a lemur.
- [40:49]
Dana Perino
I think I was closest.
- [40:51]
Jessica Tarlov
It's a ring tailed lemur from the Cincinnati Zoo. None of you win a thing.
- [40:56]
Dana Perino
All right, Jesse. Hi.
- [40:57]
Greg Gutfeld
The Clay Shooting Classic at Hudson Farm through Hope for Education. This is a charity that Emma's involved with. She's on the board there. It's an amazing organization. They help underprivileged students reach their full potential by providing partial scholarships to these kids in need. Great event, great cause. Go check them out. Hope through educationusa.org Tonight, Jesse Waters PrimeTime Johnny asked people about the Iran Israel situation.
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Dana Perino
Oh, I bet there's some good takes in that.
- [41:24]
Paul Morrow
Wow.
- [41:24]
Jessica Tarlov
From the FOX News Podcasts Network.
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Dana Perino
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- [41:28]
Jesse Waters
Make sure to check out my podcast.
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Dana Perino
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Jesse Waters
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Greg Gutfeld
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