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Jesse Waters
Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Waters along with Kayleigh McEnany, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, I think the message this evening is we inherited a mess and we've done a great job and we continue to and our country is going to be stronger than ever before.
Jesse Waters
President Trump giving a small preview of his year end primetime address to the nation at 9 o' clock Eastern, right after primetime. And 47's got plenty to gloat about from securing historic Middle east peace deals, smoking narco terrorist boats in the Caribbean, the lowest gas prices in four years, a border that's quiet as a mouse, and yes, ending DEI programs. And while Trump is set to lay it out for all Americans, tonight, the liberal lunatics are rolling out their prebuttal, complete with slam poetry and warnings that Trump is somehow about to start a war that's all pretextual for the ginning.
Jessica Tarlov
Up of this war that they think.
Jesse Waters
Might be able to distract the country from the eroding economy that Donald Trump.
Greg Gutfeld
Has imposed on all of us.
Jesse Waters
Trump is turning Main street into Paine Street.
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This administration has lied to us about.
Dana Perino
ICE in America while some of the wealthiest actors in our country have tried.
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To sell us a myth to defend.
Jesse Waters
It would be F on energy, F.
Greg Gutfeld
On housing, F on groceries, F on health care, F on tariffs, which leads.
Jesse Waters
To a final grade of F. Oh.
Greg Gutfeld
My God, it's so embarrassing.
Jesse Waters
And with an opposition like that, Kamala, of all people, thinks the Democrats aren't speaking authentically.
Kayleigh McEnany
I think we, I think that they're in many. They're. In some ways, we are very much stuck in the past. And so we're not speaking in a way that sounds authentic or relatable or just relevant. There is a lot that we need to do that is about recognizing we give a lot of lip service to listening to the people. But are we really listening?
Greg Gutfeld
Are we really listening to the people?
Jesse Waters
All right, so there were a lot of sighs around the table. Dana's, yours was the loudest.
Kayleigh McEnany
Okay, so I get to go first.
Jesse Waters
Why don't you go first?
Kayleigh McEnany
Well, here's the thing about Kamala Harris. There's a new vocal fry. I don't get it. It's like, if you want to be in touch with young people, I feel like you really get it. I get. Here's my thing with her. I'm always looking for something to compliment. I'm willing to compliment. Like when she first came out when she was going to run for president, she had that huge rally. Even President Trump complimented her. Say, wow, she's got something there. And then she just chips away at her credibility, and she acts like she's too cool for school. And here's my thing. I would love to see a woman leader in my lifetime that rises to the level of presidential merit. But you have to lead. Allison Janney cannot be the only Democratic woman showing women how to be president of the United States. And you know exactly what I'm talking about. Because you watch the show. Greg, too, probably because he watches it on President Trump's speech, I think it was last week in a commercial break after I said I would like to see him give a speech, he said he's not going to do that. And I know that it's not his favorite format because he's really good at being off the cuff and answering questions from the press. That's where you get the good stuff. I do think this moment of focus and clarity, even though it's awkward to do it in the Oval Office and you're talking directly to the teleprompter, and it feels a little weird, and there was no crowd, and it's just awkward. I think that doing this right before Americans gather for the next two weeks, get a little time off, a little bit of a breather, hopefully people are going to obsess about politics over the next week, but if they can take a moment to say, think of where we were a year ago on the border to where we are now, gas prices are significant. He probably. I've heard that he's going to Announce a couple of new things. Trump accounts, maybe in all the other news that's going on, people who will tune in tonight hadn't heard about that. And he will also talk about some of the deregulations that are coming that were part of the big beautiful bill that don't kick in until next year. And so it is possible, if you can, if you can get people to just hold on a little bit, that they will see the economy pick up and prices start to come down or wages start to go up by the time, you know, springtime rolls around.
Jesse Waters
Let's play the grading game with you, Jessica. You saw Chuck Schumer out there. What grade would you give Donald Trump in his first year?
Jessica Tarlov
I don't think anyone is a complete failure because I believe in rehabilitation. So I don't like a C minus, D plus. I don't think it's been great.
Dana Perino
And the American public, C minus is still passing.
Kayleigh McEnany
I know.
Greg Gutfeld
I was about to say I take a C minus.
Jessica Tarlov
Great. Enjoy. You're not going to go to college with that, though. You know, the American public is the ultimate arbiter of what grade that you're getting and they're not feeling rosy about the conditions. If there is someone who is just a voter purely on border security itself, not immigration policy in general, but the border, then yes, Donald Trump, I'm sure, is getting an A right now. But we had zero border crossings within a few months of Donald Trump coming into office and haven't had much progress since in terms of getting a good immigration policy. Harry Antin was back on TV this morning. The report card is negative. Every Single day since March 12, Trump has been in the red 281 days in a row. The bottom line is the American people don't like what Trump is doing and they haven't liked what Trump's doing for a long period of time. You guys, rightfully so. Admonished me numerous times during the end of the Biden administration for having rose colored glasses on about it and saying, oh, well, there's been this progress or like, look over here when people are telling you to your face that they are struggling at the grocery store. The new Quinnipiac poll, 57% of Americans are blaming Trump for the economy at this point because it is his economy. So he should not come out there and just say, you've got it all wrong. He should talk about whatever progress he thinks that he's made thus far and what can change. I think those Trump accounts you saw. Ray Dalio joined Michael Dell today. So he's going to 300,000 kids in Connecticut are going to have those accounts filled between before they're three years old. That's a huge deal. I wish the Democrats had done that. I'm sorry. Well, I'm not that sorry. But you know, the economic record is not where he wants it to be and he's going to have to do something about it.
Jesse Waters
Kaylee?
Dana Perino
Well, when you look at the report card, according to Real Clear Politics, as of Sunday, he is the most popular president at this point in his presidency in the 21st century. Average of polls, 43.7%. Compare that to Obama this day in history, this point in his second term, 42.6% Bush, 42.5%, though I believe Bush tied President Trump today. Nevertheless, President Trump, far more popular than President Obama at this point in his presidency, agreed that the economic messaging is very important. Unlike the Biden administration, you have to acknowledge the American people's pain because they are feeling pain. And I think the way to do it is to say I have made significant progress in cleaning up the Biden disaster, but there's still more to be done. Let's talk about that progress I've made. You heard Dana mentioned gas prices. 39 states now have gas under $3 a gallon. You look at the jobs report that came out yesterday. 121,000 private sector jobs, a decrease in 168,000 and public sector jobs. You look at purchasing power. That's when you comp compare inflation to wage growth. The purchasing power under the Biden administration went down by about $3,000. That's what workers lost. It is now up $1,000. Finally, you can get into eggs, rice, fresh fruit. Those have all come down. And then he needs to say looking forward. Here is what we are focusing on. The Trump accounts. That's one. No tax on tips hitting next year. No tax on overtime hitting next year. Boost to the child tax credit to 2200 next year. Expanding the 529 savings accounts next year, doubling the standard deduction. That all happens next year. More to be done. The Trump economy has tailwind behind it and it's going to continue. And that should be the message. The economy is the focus.
Jesse Waters
Okay, Greg, you'll be watching tonight. What are you looking for?
Greg Gutfeld
I don't know. I'm always looking for something, Jesse, but somehow I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
Jesse Waters
Okay, you too.
Greg Gutfeld
I whenever I am looking at something, trying to grade something, I use a pro and a con list. Even though things aren't Always weighted equally. But if you take look at the Trump presidency, first year, here are the pros. Middle east peace and other peace deals, closed border, the trans delusion has been deflated and punctured. That's pretty big. Gas prices, eggs. You've got the tax changes, the Trump accounts, narco terror on notice, the slashing of government bloat, jumpstarting AI which is actually a pretty big deal. All right, cons. Criticism about process and criticism about rhetoric. All right, so on the pros, you've got concrete, measurable things. You can count treaties you can count on. You can count the amount of drugs that are captured, you can count the number of illegals being deported. You can look at prices going up or down. But you can't measure rhetoric and you can't measure process. You can only feel and amplify emotions, which is what the Dems do. And that's what they're gonna do here and what they are doing here. Now on to Kamala. This is something really interesting. She made me think about something that she's saying. The Democrats aren't speaking authentically, but what's your alternative? Speaking incoherently? You could speak authentically only if you're in an environment of free thought. And there is no free thought in the Democrat Party. This is like she just accidentally hit on this. If you were trying to figure out what an authentic Democrat is, what would a authentic Democrat believe? As long as the policies, which I think they still are, are based on identity and placing people in groups as opposed to being individuals, there is no incentive to be authentic. You are limited by rules and thought and in word, you're forced to follow an identity playbook, which means saying exactly what is required. Remember the pronouns? Crazed. Perfect example. No authentic person would have ever agreed to using those pronouns, but somehow the Democrats embraced that they fact. Then factor in all the things that you can't say as a Democrat, whether it's on trans, crime, the border. Those are the three things that pop out. But there's a lot of stuff you can't talk about. So you look at the things that you're required to say, identity, and the things that you can't say, which is everything else. And you create an artificial construct. This is why when you look at Democrat politicians, they don't seem real because they forgot what it's like to be a real human being, to actually say what's in their brain. They are terrified. So until you have somebody that bursts out and say, you know, enough of this, this phony baloney BS about pronouns. I care about my kids if you have to come out and speak. If you don't do that, you're screwed. Okay. He's so happy.
Jesse Waters
What he was looking for Vanity, unfair. Find out why the Trump team is rallying around the chief of staff, Susie Wiles.
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Kayleigh McEnany
T. Trump rallying around White House Chief of staff Susie Wiles after her unfiltered interview with Vanity Fair. It caused a little bit of a stir in Washington and she calls in the interview. Vice President J.D. vance, a conspiracy theorist for a decade, accuses Elon Musk of being an avowed ketamine user. Says Attorney General Pam Bondi whiffed on the Jeffrey Epstein case and even describes President Trump as having the personality of an alcoholic. But the president himself was not offended, telling the New York Post, say no, she meant that I'm, you see, I don't drink alcohol, so everybody knows that. But I've often said that if I did, I'd have a very good chance of being an alcoholic. I have said that many times about myself. It is a very possessive personality. Meanwhile, the media absolutely feasting on this little slice of West Wing palace intrigue.
Dana Perino
Sounds like the adult in the room. Why does the toddler in chief have the nuclear code?
Greg Gutfeld
Vanity Fair.
Kayleigh McEnany
They did those people wrong, man.
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Greg Gutfeld
I like to remind all of you that you're not crazy. What's happening is crazy. In the pages of Vanity Fair, they confirmed It. Who's they?
Jesse Waters
Thems is.
Greg Gutfeld
The crazies. Boy, doesn't that just encapsulate the entire mentality of all the groupies and the hangers on all the facilitators and enablers around him?
Kayleigh McEnany
In Maga, Susie Wiles herself is pushing back, writing that the article is a disingenuously framed hit piece. I had my own little lesson in Vanity Fair PR. In 2006, I was convinced by a writer of Vanity Fair that Karl Rove had never been given a fair shake and that he was going to take a fresh look. And so I went to Dan Bartlett, the head of communications, and said, is it cool if I work on this? Because I really think I could. I think I could really do a good job. And he was like, yeah, knock yourself out. Well, we pulled out all the stops, everything, everything possible for this reporter. And it was the meanest piece I've ever read in my life with the worst photograph. And I was under my desk in a fetal position just like you were standing. Learn your lesson. If.
Dana Perino
Yeah, exactly.
Kayleigh McEnany
If you are a Republican politician, you are not going to get the glossy treatment that some people might think they deserve. But you're never going to get it. You would have to do it yourself. Vanity Fair. The clue is in the name Kaylee. Yeah.
Dana Perino
And that was 2006. You said, I don't know how long it's going to take for Republicans to learn the lesson. You cannot trust the media. You're not going to get the glossy cover. This reminded me so much of during my tenure when President Trump got on the phone and talked to Bob Woodward. And I came into the job and my predecessor had. I don't know if she had any part in it. I don't know how it panned out. Maybe it was something Trump did behind the scenes. But regardless, he had talked an extended long format to Bob Woodward and thinking he could shape the story. But you can't shape the story. Bob Woodward is going to do a, a left leaning piece that maybe he wouldn't do on Joe Biden. Vanity Fair is going to do a left leaning piece. You get two pages in and they're already talking about critic critics making Hitler comparisons with Trump. But that leads me to say this. Susie Wiles is a very smart operator. And you learn a lot about someone and how they're doing in their job when they get knifed in the press. And this is essentially what's happened. You know, it's a wounded dog, essentially, right in hyenas prow. And there's a Wounded dog. But there were no hyenas here. Everyone stood up and defended Susie Wiles, from J.D. vance to Marco Rubio to Don Jr. Someone who's not even in the administration, who's very much seen as like, you know, the king of MAGA world. There were no knifing in the press, like leaks out to people when someone's wounded. That is when people go and attack on background to reporters. No one did that. It was silence. There's no hit pieces against Suzy Wiles. She's very talented. Which brings me to the point of why she spoke with Vanity Fair. I don't know the answer to that. I do know in the piece it says everyone knows when Susie Wiles weighs in, she is speaking for Donald Trump. So was there some strategy here to send a message to folks? I don't know. Maybe it started with a strategy that snowballed into something different. But Susie Wiles is very smart, very capable. And the reaction to this piece tells.
Jessica Tarlov
You all of that.
Kayleigh McEnany
If I were spinning this, Greg, I might have said we said we would be the most transparent administration in history.
Greg Gutfeld
I do love how everybody agreed with what Susie Wiles said. I think that was a tremendous thing on the. From. From the other side. But it's so funny to watch the media gobble up this narrative when the last time I checked the industry, it isn't really a shining example of stability or mental health. Do you know how many people in the media have had mental breakdowns? Did you just even see who Vanity Fair hired? This nutcase, Olivia Nutsee. She's a predatory slunk monkey who's done more damage to people's careers, including her own. And then you have Colbert. This guy should be talking about crazy. The man did a dance with a syringe that may have cost people lives. So the question is, should you care about this? And the answer is no. Have you forgotten who these people are? They miss the media. That is the biggest stories of the century. Which cost us blood and treasure, which it was Covid. The shutdowns, obviously, the Biden cover up illegals climate. And they still think they matter. They don't. I don't need Vanity Fair to tell me what I already know, which is the Trump White House is a pirate ship full of badasses and brilliance by comparison. Comparison. The Vanity Fair writer is like a freelance human resources resources consultant who showed up to like do a few seminars and everybody's and they're like as shocked.
Jesse Waters
Blah, blah, blah.
Greg Gutfeld
I liked like when Wiles comment on the alcoholic mind and Trump Said, oh, yeah, she's right. Yeah. Because I mean, to her dad, Pat Summerall, you know, she understands that alcoholics are like these intense personalities. And when they're in sober drunks are often the best people to have around you because the traits are so driven, but you don't have the usage. And the great thing is Trump knows that. He knows I can't drink because I have alcoholic tendencies. You couldn't ask for a better mindset.
Kayleigh McEnany
Yeah, he really. He put a pin in everything.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Kayleigh McEnany
He's like, we're not gonna be obsessed with this. But they were also self aware enough to know that when it came to the photograph, can't remember which one of them said, we're all gonna get fired.
Jesse Waters
Those weren't great photos. I've had a Vanity Fair writer following me around since October.
Greg Gutfeld
No.
Jesse Waters
Should I be worried?
Dana Perino
Yeah. Really?
Greg Gutfeld
No, just wait. Is it Olivia Nutzy?
Jesse Waters
I would, I would never. Here's the thing, Dana. Women are intoxicated by Vanity Fair. So when Susie found out Vanity Fair wanted to roll in. It's like heroin. She had to do it. There was no saying no, and look what happens. It blew up. Now this guy who wrote it, Whipple, worked for Trump before. He wrote a snazzy book. The first time was on the outs. Now he kind of came back in and they pitched himself as trustworthy. He writes about chiefs of staff now. Did she say anything that bad? I didn't really hear it. I didn't hear it was that bad. It was gossipy. And that's what sells. It's gossipy. It's not on message. It's the truth. She's like, yeah, Elon might be on something. I wouldn't have pardoned everyone on January 6th. I liked it when she said, you know, Trump doesn't wake up every morning thinking about retribution, but when he sees an opportunity, he'll take it.
Kayleigh McEnany
That's refreshing.
Jesse Waters
So it's all good.
Greg Gutfeld
It's authentic.
Jesse Waters
They were on defense for like a half a news cycle on it. We expected more from her. It's a mistake. And everybody rallied to her because they love her, because she's doing a fantastic job and she'll probably be there for another three years.
Kayleigh McEnany
You just made me think. Wouldn't it be refreshing to hear what Kamala Harris really thinks?
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Kayleigh McEnany
I mean, her staff has told us what they really think on the record, but what does she really think? Anyway, Last word to you, Jessica. On anything.
Jessica Tarlov
Well, I think the marketing of this is a hit job. Might work. If it had been one interview. But she sat down with him 11 times and there were recordings. So when people came out and said she didn't say that, he's like, let me just press play on this. And I do think that Susie wiles at least 99% of the time by reputation, what I've seen so far is in control of what she's doing and that she is telegraphing something thing. Yes. We read in the New York Times as well that Elon Musk uses ketamine. J.D. vance, conspiracy theorists, fine. But like what she said about Pam Bondi and whiffing on the Epstein files, that's a very big deal for the administration. There's a big chunk of the base that feels seriously let down by the fact that they were promised Epstein files, they had, you know, influencers with binders and then nothing, I guess until Friday when they're allegedly going to come out. I think she's also seeing the fact looping back to what we were discussing in the first block that the administration is not as successful as they would like themselves to be. I mean, we didn't note it yet, but Mike Johnson completely lost control of his caucus this morning. He had, you know, a four person rebellion. Maybe it'll be even more once this ACA subsidy vote happens. The three year extension leader Jeffries completely played him, right. He didn't go for any of the discharge petitions, the Fitzpatrick bill. He said I'm going to wait it out for my three year extension. And then he got Fitzpatrick, Lawler, etc. To fold and to come over to his side and now there's going to be a vote. I don't know what. Senator, I'm not sure anybody knows anything.
Kayleigh McEnany
Of what you just, I mean I do, but I mean it's like pretty well here.
Jessica Tarlov
I'll just make it clear Leader Johnson is not in control of his caucus. Susie Wiles is telegraphing something about how well the administration is doing by going on the record 11 times. You know, this is the thing. You guys want an election. You have to govern now. The governing is not working. That's what happened this morning with the House on the health care bill. There is still no solution. Go listen to Chip Roy.
Greg Gutfeld
He never said that about Joe Biden.
Jesse Waters
Solve your problems.
Kayleigh McEnany
I will say this.
Greg Gutfeld
I care.
Kayleigh McEnany
I loved what Susie Weil said about her initial take on tariffs because I agreed. We have a FOX News alert for you here. Deputy FBI Director Dan Bondino announcing on X just moments ago he is leaving the bureau in January. He added this. I want to thank President Trump AG Bondi and Director Patel for the opportunity to serve with purpose. Most importantly, I want to thank you, my fellow Americans, for the privilege to serve you. God bless America and all those who defend her. Ooh.
Greg Gutfeld
Dana.
Dana Perino
Yes?
Greg Gutfeld
I just got some breaking news. Fox is announcing a new show, weeknights with Bongino.
Dana Perino
What time?
Greg Gutfeld
11:00Pm 11:00pm After Gutfeld.
Dana Perino
That's Trace Calligan.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, well, it's Trace and Dan. One's gonna be on each coast.
Jesse Waters
All right.
Kayleigh McEnany
Up next, police searching for a second who might know more about the Brown University shooter. We'll be right back.
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Greg Gutfeld
Providence police now say they're looking for a second person, someone who was near the person of interest. As frustration continues to boil over with the killer still on the loose. There were no cameras inside the building where the shooting took place. Officials are blaming that on the building's old age. And it sounds like they still haven't talked to all the witnesses yet, cooperating.
Jesse Waters
With Brown to get the roster. That was a study hall, so we.
Kayleigh McEnany
Don'T have the number.
Jesse Waters
We're still getting information as far as who was there. I know Brown sent out an email to the students to notify us if they were present, and we're still getting that, so I can't give you an exact account.
Greg Gutfeld
Now, it apparently took the university 17 minutes for the first text alarm to go out after the first shots rang out. And Brown's president has no clue how her school's safety protocols work.
Kayleigh McEnany
In the case of an active shooter.
Jessica Tarlov
Activating that system could have caused people to rush into Bereson Hollow. So that's not a system that we would ever use in the case of an active shooter.
Greg Gutfeld
It does say on the website when it was launched that it is for an active shooter.
Jessica Tarlov
It depends on the circumstances and where the active shooter would be. But you don't want to ever get people rushing into buildings that might be.
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The site of an active shooting.
Dana Perino
That's my understanding.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, it's not good understanding. Kayleigh. You are a lawyer. Wow. I don't really have a question for that, that's the end of it. You are a lawyer. I feel like we're watching water boil here.
Dana Perino
This is insane. The manner in which this investigation has gone down. And the reporters, I just want to praise them because they have been phenomenal in these briefings. Absolutely phenomenal. The cameras, they say, why were there new. Not new cameras in old buildings. You can put new cameras in old buildings. Well, the reporter doubles back after the official answers the question and says, it's inexplicable to some people that you have this multimillion dollar endowment and yet you couldn't afford cameras. So that's question number one that I have. Question number two I have is why they keep saying that there is no threat to the community here. Why would you say that? There is literally a school shooter on the loose. And the reporter doubled back and said, with respect, Mayor, there were no threats made prior to the shooting. The mayor was saying, well, there's been no new threats. Well, there were no threats prior to the shooting. And this guy went on to kill to individuals. And the final question I have, and I'm going to just engage in supposition here, they say they don't know what that man shouted before he unleashed bullets. Yes, you do. At this point, you have engaged in dozens and dozens of witness interviews, and not a single witness was able to tell you, or at least two confirming what the individual said. You know exactly what he said. You're not releasing that to the public, and the public has every right to remain skeptical. Last thing I will say, took two days to find Tyler Robinson. We're now day four. Took five days to find the Boston Marathon bombers. We're getting dangerously close to that five day mark. They need to find this guy. They need to find him quick. Because every day that passes is a day where we have lost time.
Greg Gutfeld
Jesse Kaylee brings up a good point. There were like 50, 60 students in the classroom. Clearly, many of them heard something and yet we're told nothing.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, they don't want to inflame the situation if it's Allah Akbar or something like that. And Brown's protecting its reputation, but they haven't even interviewed anybody that was there. I mean, so this is taking forever. And they say they don't have cameras outside the building, but they have cameras inside the building, but they're not releasing any of the footage from inside the building because they don't think it's useful. All right. And then they didn't put any cameras on outside of the building. And the building is right up against the residential area. Now, if this were me and I was running security, I. I would put cameras on the perimeter of my campus so I could see who came in and came out. And I'm not even a security guy. The guy that is the security guy was basically fired from his last job. He quit, or he was asked to resign because he was a disaster. So Brown hires him, and the union of the Brown security force, they just put out a no confidence vote on him last month because he's a wreck. And then you have the police chief. His nephew was just indicted and convicted for running a fentanyl ring. And the mayor, Smiley, this goofball with no pulse, hired this guy, even knowing that his stupid nephew was a trafficker.
Greg Gutfeld
All right?
Jesse Waters
And now they put out this new person. Now, I don't know if this new person is at the wrong place at the wrong time or he's the spotter. He's transporting the weapon. He's the getaway driver. But the dumbest thing I ever heard today, they asked the cop, the chief, well, you saw the guy. The suspect walked past one of the patrol cars. Did you have dash cam footage of the guy? And it was a Brown University police car. And he goes, I don't know.
Jessica Tarlov
I don't know.
Jesse Waters
He doesn't know if Brown University squad cars have dash cams. And it's been a whole day since you've known the guy walked past the vehicle.
Kayleigh McEnany
Right.
Jesse Waters
What are we doing here, Jessica?
Greg Gutfeld
I mean, we're all like these armchair experts on security, like this. No, that's what I say. Would you care to defend what's been going on? No.
Jessica Tarlov
Why would I care to defend it?
Greg Gutfeld
Well, I don't know.
Jessica Tarlov
I voted for Kamala Harris.
Kayleigh McEnany
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
Blame this on Trump.
Jessica Tarlov
It feels like manhunts are going on for longer and longer these days.
Greg Gutfeld
And am I right, ladies?
Jessica Tarlov
Was late in life. No, but I feel badly for them that they didn't get lucky, that the shooter's father turned him in, like in the Utah case. But this is appallingly bad. It's bad. The police chief, it's bad. The locals, the Brown University campus folks, and the FBI. I mean, this footage of FBI agents kicking snow. And I understand the cash Patel recorded that interview with his girlfriend with Katie Miller before this happened. But the fact that they let that air. So he's sitting there talking about, you know, their love story or how he shouldn't be criticized for going on our taxpayer dime to see her perform because he only goes 15% of the time, just makes you think what is going on here with the FBI? And then you see also that article in the Washington Post today about Tyler Robinson, that he was on Wordle like 80 minutes before he went and killed Charlie Kirk. And then he gets back on Wordle, and they couldn't have figured this out earlier? It just feels like we're being let down on every single level.
Greg Gutfeld
You think Wordle caused him to kill Charlie Kerr?
Jessica Tarlov
No, but I think that our law enforcement should be able to be tracking things better. I think that we should have more information.
Greg Gutfeld
I agree with you. I hate Wordle.
Kayleigh McEnany
That's my New Year's resolution. Start Wordle.
Greg Gutfeld
I still do not even know what Wordle is.
Jessica Tarlov
I'm surprised you don't do it.
Kayleigh McEnany
I don't do it. And I'm really bad at wor game, so I'm going to try it.
Greg Gutfeld
What frustrates you?
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Greg Gutfeld
We kind of covered this ground. Like, all these people suck.
Kayleigh McEnany
Two things Paul Morrow mentioned this morning. Just a reminder in the Boise. Well, the Idaho murders of those students.
Jesse Waters
Yes.
Kayleigh McEnany
It took six weeks to find the killer, so there's that. So maybe five days. Whatever this feels.
Greg Gutfeld
Why are we in the rush?
Kayleigh McEnany
Right.
Greg Gutfeld
You know what I think sometimes we get caught up and it's like, oh, my God.
Jesse Waters
Where?
Greg Gutfeld
It's like. It's like.
Jessica Tarlov
So he doesn't kill other people.
Greg Gutfeld
That's a good point.
Jesse Waters
But I was in the middle of the.
Greg Gutfeld
They must know that we don't care.
Jessica Tarlov
About the MIT professor. Why is that not a bigger deal?
Dana Perino
We do. I put.
Kayleigh McEnany
We did a newsroom and we did it.
Jesse Waters
We care.
Greg Gutfeld
Just take that back.
Kayleigh McEnany
Jessica, can I think one other thing, though? That the proverbial thing is happening is that because everyone gets information so quickly, you expect more information.
Greg Gutfeld
Right.
Kayleigh McEnany
Information. And because their communications has been poor, and every time they get up, they're like, I don't know. I'm not sure. I have no idea. All the laundry list that Jesse just went through, and that leaves people open to communicating when trying to solve it themselves.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. Do you imagine if we had this technology back in the Unabomber days, how impatient we would be? How long did that take?
Kayleigh McEnany
Years.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. All right. That was almost a complete thought from me. Up next, Jake Tapper turns up the heat on Trump after dropping the ball on Biden.
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Dana Perino
CNN anchor Jake Tapper is now admitting that he's going extra hard on Trump's health after clearly dropping the ball on Joe Biden.
Jesse Waters
We cover it all the time on.
Greg Gutfeld
My show, all the time.
Jesse Waters
And I think that is, that is to a large degree because we saw.
Greg Gutfeld
What happened with Biden and while we covered it, we didn't cover it. Maybe we didn't ask as many questions.
Jesse Waters
As we should have at the time. And I think it is a legitimate.
Greg Gutfeld
Question for any president of any age.
Jesse Waters
But particular anybody who is like in.
Greg Gutfeld
The range of being an octogenarian.
Jesse Waters
Right. We cover it all the time.
Dana Perino
So basically I failed with Joe Biden. So I'm going to concoct something about Trump. Greg.
Greg Gutfeld
Yo. Persuasion isn't what you tell yourself, it's what you tell other people. And he is talking to himself there. And you can kind of see that as he looks off. All of this originates and I would say all in terms of the media from ego. The Trump derangement bias was due to a disbelief that millions of people think you're wrong and the Biden cover up was due to the sunk cost that they had invested in their own assumptions and it was too much to let go. And now they're clinging to this shipwreck of an industry still in denial of their own culpability. There has to be, if they ever want to regain credibility, there has to be a full admission of what actually went on along with some kind of like restitution. But I think it's done. I think it's over.
Dana Perino
Yeah, Dana.
Kayleigh McEnany
Well, I think there's, I don't mind tough journalism if it's applied both ways. And I think that one of the things that's interesting here is that there is the difference between what we saw with our own eyes and ears and what you see in terms of Trump. For example, when you see Trump give his primetime speech tonight at 9 o', clock, I don't think anybody's going to sit there and go, whoa, wow. Yikes. Oh my, oh my gosh, is he okay? That's how we felt all the time with Biden.
Dana Perino
Yeah. I mean, of all the narratives to. So why would you pick this one? The 9pm address, the three hour cabinet meetings.
Jesse Waters
Yeah. He's kind of using it as an excuse to push more fake news Remember, there was a cover up. There's this big public confession, and so now he's pivoted to just more fake news. This is not a real story that Trump is struggling physically or mentally. That's not true. He's just using his failures in the past as an excuse to push more garbage. But you guys are burying the lead. Jake Tapper, and I know this because I watch his show. I have to because the TV's on during my dinner. He stopped wearing his glasses. He has stopped. I mean, that is a. That's like me not popping my collar. This was an iconic look for Tapper and he's gotten rid of it. Now, I don't know what's going on with his life, but this is a. He got lace.
Dana Perino
Maybe.
Jesse Waters
All right, this is speculation, Dana. We're going to stick to the facts here. Also, I'm going to take a page out of Dana's playbook. I'm going to say something nice about him. I like the color he painted his study. Oh, that is a nice forest green. Classy green.
Dana Perino
Yeah. Such a scandal without the glasses. Jessica, never lose your glasses.
Jessica Tarlov
No, I couldn't. Nailed to my face. You don't hear Alex Thompson talking about this like Alex Thompson who was out there hoofing it the whole time and said at the White House Correspondents dinner last year that this was a huge story that you have to be paying attention to. And I get it. He's getting asked about, well, why is there an unequal standard or whatever. But the cure for all of it is to do good reporting that doesn't feel like you're compensating for something else by doing it this way this time around.
Dana Perino
Right. It's like saying, I miss Watergate. So like, let's create Watergate for the next president. It makes no sense. Anyway, up next, would you ever let your mom take over your dating profile?
Jesse Waters
Hey, Ryan Reynolds here wishing you a very happy half off holiday because right.
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Kayleigh McEnany
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Jesse Waters
To be clear, that's half price, not half the service. Mint is still premium unlimited wireless for a great price.
Jessica Tarlov
So that means a half day. Yeah.
Greg Gutfeld
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Dana Perino
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Jessica Tarlov
Welcome back. The Wall Street Journal reporting on how burned out singles are turning to good old mom Letting parents and siblings swipe through dating apps with them, I think. Did you. Did you ever online date?
Dana Perino
One time. And I met my husband on Twitter.
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, well, that's different than a dating app, but what do you think?
Dana Perino
No, but I did do a dating app for a short period of time in New York City. It was a disaster. Nevertheless, mom knows best. My mom, like, stopped me from bad relationships, put a tailwind behind the good ones. Like, I am all for this. Like, get mom and dad involved. They know better than you know yourself.
Jessica Tarlov
What about how much your mom knows you better than you know yourself?
Jesse Waters
Jesse, my mom, if she set me up on a date, would set me up with you. Jessica.
Jessica Tarlov
A dream scenario for the Waters Clan.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, but I can't believe you went into the sugar daddy website. That's really messed up, Kayleigh.
Dana Perino
The sugar daddy website?
Kayleigh McEnany
Twitter.
Jessica Tarlov
Ignore him. What?
Kayleigh McEnany
He's joking.
Jessica Tarlov
Dana, what do you think about.
Kayleigh McEnany
I think I pitched this story. I don't really know what I think about it. Obviously, I'm too old for this to have been.
Jessica Tarlov
Well, you met Peter very young.
Kayleigh McEnany
I do think it's a little weird. At some point, you can't have parents coming to their job interviews. You can't have. You have to let your kids do it on their own. That's what I think.
Jesse Waters
Literally.
Greg Gutfeld
Greg, you know, my mom is no longer alive. And I don't think she would be thrilled with Grindr. But you got to remember the way it was in the old days. Families played a role in matchmaking. And why not? You don't just hand your kid off to some stranger. It's, like, the most important decision in the world. Now we. Now we were like, okay, with algorithms. Where I say, oh, go ahead. Like, swipe left, swipe right. No, no, no. One dumb choice. You ruin our lineage, and you could ruin our lives. We could lose all our money. You get hooked up with a Corey Fe or a Cory Booker, or anybody named Cory, for that matter, is bad news.
Jesse Waters
That's what happened when I married Emma. I got land and titles.
Jessica Tarlov
After my dad died. Waited two years. I put my mom online, and I operated her account. And she has a nice boyfriend that we met online.
Kayleigh McEnany
Oh, really?
Jesse Waters
Is he a Republican?
Jessica Tarlov
No.
Dana Perino
Oh, man.
Jessica Tarlov
Standards in this house.
Jesse Waters
Thank you for the lovely bouquet.
Kayleigh McEnany
I'm married to the Hustle and now.
Jesse Waters
I know the life of a show.
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Jesse Waters
Time now for one more thing. We have a big announcement. Harry and Haley Paytas had a baby. Look at this beautiful baby. Parker May Paytas, Beautiful young girl, £7, 3 ounces. Harry is Emma's cousin. It's not your business.
Dana Perino
It is.
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Jesse Waters
Congratulations.
Greg Gutfeld
You're doing like distant relative babies on a national show.
Jessica Tarlov
It's Emma's cousin. It's. What's this you're doing?
Greg Gutfeld
Your wife's cousin's baby.
Jesse Waters
It's a baby, Greg.
Greg Gutfeld
All right, I want voters at home. Should we be doing this or should we not be doing this?
Dana Perino
It's Christmas.
Jesse Waters
I can't believe you just big footed the baby announcement. This is what's gonna happen every time. All right, Jesse Waters, prime time tonight. Congratulations, guys. Typical Maria Romo, David Sacks, Kayleigh McEnany, 8pm we're gonna tee up the big Trump speech.
Greg Gutfeld
All right, tonight we got Emily Campagno, George Santos, Kat Timp and Tyrus. Hey, let's do this. Greg Sexy Gorilla News, Roll the music. This is L Go on eight at the Cincinnati Zoo. You know, gorillas intentionally spin fast enough. Dana. To get dizzy as a form of self stimulation. You can call them spinners if you like, but it combats boredom and provides novel sensory input. Especially if you're a captive ape like myself.
Dana Perino
No, Brit Hume.
Jessica Tarlov
Sad.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, bridium is off tonight.
Jesse Waters
If he put you in the mood, I don't know what will do.
Kayleigh McEnany
Well, I'm gonna think about that all night. The pizza rat is out. A pair of wrestling rats in New York City are back. Look at these two. They're like, you will not take this bagel.
Dana Perino
I got this bagel.
Kayleigh McEnany
No, there is a big fight over a bagel. And you know, this is the kind of thing that we see in New York City and we are proud of it.
Jessica Tarlov
Jessica, there's no time.
Jesse Waters
Exactly.
Greg Gutfeld
Fox News Radio has complete coverage of.
Jesse Waters
President Donald Trump's address.
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FOX News Podcasts | December 18, 2025
This episode of "The Five" features Jesse Watters, Kayleigh McEnany, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld discussing President Trump’s upcoming year-end primetime address. The panel debates Trump’s achievements and critiques, reactions to a contentious Vanity Fair profile on White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, media treatment of presidential health stories, the ongoing investigation into a shooting at Brown University, and a few lighter topics from dating apps to viral animal videos.
[01:20 – 05:26]
Upbeat and combative, with a tongue-in-cheek critique of opponents' anticipated arguments.
[05:26 – 09:14]
Jessica Tarlov [05:36]: "The American public is the ultimate arbiter...they're not feeling rosy about the conditions. If someone is just a voter purely on border security...Donald Trump, I'm sure, is getting an A right now..."
Dana Perino [07:36]: "...he is the most popular president at this point in his presidency in the 21st century...you have to acknowledge the American people's pain because they are feeling pain..."
Kayleigh McEnany [07:47]: "Unlike the Biden administration, you have to acknowledge the American people's pain...but there's still more to be done..."
General agreement that economic messaging is critical and Trump’s “progress” must be contextualized with remaining challenges.
[09:14 – 12:14]
[13:42 – 23:33]
[25:19 – 33:37]
The group is sharply critical of institutional failures, noting public distrust grows as information is withheld or delayed.
[34:32 – 38:09]
[39:07 – 41:16]
[41:59 – 43:57]
[44:04–end]
Brief mentions for upcoming special coverage of Trump’s address and routine show promos.
This episode takes a critical and often sardonic look at Trump’s successes and controversies, how political narratives are built by both sides, and the inner workings (and gossip) within Trump’s White House. With characteristic banter, the "Five" explore deep divides in political messaging, media coverage, and institutional trust, while ending on a lighter, irreverent note. For those who missed it, expect energetic debate and plenty of quotable moments, especially regarding authenticity, media bias, and political optics ahead of Trump’s widely touted year-end speech.