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Greg Gutfeld
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Kennedy
Those that have fled to Illinois or to California be reminded that the FBI's assistant has reportedly been enlisted and their powers are not confined to any singular state's boundaries.
Shannon Bream
The gerrymander wars are heating up big time. There was no quorum in the Texas state House today to get those five new Republican seats. That's because the 50 Texas state Democrats were a no show, blowing off the deadline to come back in the face of some pretty serious consequences. $500 a day fines, no more direct deposits and the threat of arrest. With the FBI apparently now on their tails, California Governor Gavin Newsom is about to hold a news conference with some of the Texas holdouts. Following the lead of others remander maps. However, New York Governor Kathy Hochul, still insisting Democrats are the ones who play by the rules. I've never been a hand wringer on the sidelines. I'm a street fighter from Buffalo and.
Harold Ford Jr.
My blood is boiling over this. And so is the other governors, the other Democratic governors.
Shannon Bream
If we allow the Republicans to get away with what they're attempting to do, this legal insurrection of our US Capitol, then we'll have a generation of redistricted gerrymandered seats that are skewed against Democrats. And when will we ever get the.
Harold Ford Jr.
Balance of power, at least in Washington?
Shannon Bream
But the Democrats are about to bring some nukes to this street fight. One of the Texas runaways, State Representative Jean Wu, is likening the situation to a cold war.
Greg Gutfeld
This is very dangerous, that everything we're.
Kennedy
Doing right now smacks of the Cold war and what we're saying, what we're.
Greg Gutfeld
Talking about is launching nukes at each other. And ultimately it will be the American.
Kennedy
People who are hurt.
Greg Gutfeld
Democrats have no choice but to respond to this in the same way. If you launch missiles at us, we have to launch missiles at you, and.
Will Cain
It will never end.
Shannon Bream
Five new ruby red Republican seats would surely sweeten the pot for President Trump, who has now reached 200 days in office. But critics like Stacey Abrams, not fans.
Kennedy
Among the many other vile things that.
Greg Gutfeld
Donald Trump has been called, including tyrant.
Shannon Bream
Liar, scam, artist, he is also an.
Greg Gutfeld
Aspiring dictator, supported and guided like a.
Kennedy
Puppet by a cabal of tech billionaires.
Greg Gutfeld
Christian nationalists and xenophobes who all have.
Shannon Bream
His ear and understand government a lot.
Greg Gutfeld
Better than he does.
Shannon Bream
Jesse, I'm going to start with you. Those are some pretty big accusations, but I didn't hear those words used when Democrats were gerrymandering their states.
Kennedy
No, no, of course not. I love that Republicans finally are playing hardball with direct deposit because now they're stranded without money. And so how are they going to get money? They're going to have to panhandle in Chicago. You could probably make a lot of money doing that. When a fighter is out on his feet, Harold knows you knock his ass out. This party is delirious. And the Republican Party has to take full advantage at this point. We have to kick the illegals out of the country, we have to kick them out of the census, and we have to gerry to the tilt. Why? Because the Democratic Party cannot be trusted to be the opposition party anymore. They have to have a permanent minority. It used to be like, you know what, they wanted to raise taxes, we wanted to cut them. We were isolationists. They were a little bit out there. It's not like that anymore. This party's dangerous. They're cutting kids things off, okay? They're doing crazy stuff at the border. We can't have them be a normal party. We have to put them out of their misery. Right now they're using the N word, nuclear. And that usually, typically in nation state battles, when someone's survival is at stake, you use nukes if your back's up against the wall. And it's existential for the Democratic Party, if you think about it, if we gerrymander and they gerrymander, we have 20 seat advantage, all right? We have a Supreme Court 6, 3 majority. And just the way the geography is in the Senate, you're always going to have more advantages for Republicans that way. If you can lock this in with what they're trying to do, the Democratic Party is screwed. And that's what we've been trying to accomplish for the last three decades. That's what they've been trying to do to us with triggering an invasion, with trying to kill the President, with trying to censor us and debank us. It's only fair that we fight fire with fire. So if there's mutually assured destruction, they don't have the fissile material to go toe to toe with us. We're going to survive, they're not. So I say bring it on.
Shannon Bream
When it sounds like Kennedy, that's what you're going to get. You've got these states threatening to do the same thing. New York is one of them. But the fact is a lot of these blue states are already so gerrymandered, there's not a lot of, you know, left to squeeze.
Harold Ford Jr.
I think that that orange, that's where the desperation comes from because they started this process. And you know, as an independent voter, I don't like it. I, I don't like it in Texas, I absolutely hate it in California. California is essentially a monarchy. It is a one party state and they gerrymandered themselves into a corner. They really don't have anywhere else to go. And you know, I'm surprised that there's any room left in Illinois because J.B. pritzker takes up so much of the oxygen with his big personality and he's, you know, he's laughably hypocritical when he is trying to shield these poor Texas Democrats when his state is gerrymandered to the point where 44% of Michiganders voted for President Trump, yet they only have a 14 to 3 representation, Democrats to Republicans in Congress. And there's something about that that it doesn't pass the sniff test, but it's also mathematically dishonest. So, you know, and these people who are up in arms about that, they started the arms race, I never liked it. And then Democrats tried to take the high road in Congress, you know, trying to pass legislation that made it through the House, failed in the Senate that would end the gerrymandering. And the reason they did that is because they had already blown all their powder. They had, there is, there are no more states where they can push Republicans up against the wall. And I guess the only thing we can do is get rid of the two party system and invite more parties to come in. Because right now it is so factionalized, it is absolutely paralyzed.
Shannon Bream
It does feel like the states are getting deeper red, deeper blue and that's where we are. And Harold, I Know that you're somebody who likes to reach across the aisle on occasion. But as my fellow. As my fellow lawyer on the panel, I got this in my inbox, and it was from the Texas Attorney general, and it said, I'm suing Robert Francis o'.
Harold Ford Jr.
Rourke.
Shannon Bream
And it took me a second to remember. That's Beto. So he is using the name. But now we have Democrats saying, like, they're, you know, legal insurrection. They're using the courts. They use the courts every day. Isn't that what we're supposed to do?
Will Cain
Good to be back around the table with everybody. So I don't have any issue with every 10 years, once the census comes in. In any state, you recognize the political configuration and constitution of the partisan makeup of the House and the Senate and whomever the governor may be. And when I was in Congress, there was always an effort to try to really go all out at the beginning of every decade, because that's when the census numbers would come in and that's when the legislatures would redraw these districts. So gerrymandering in and of itself as much, I agree with Kennedy, I don't like it, but it's legal. The only thing you cannot do when you gerrymander is take race into account. And if you do, the Supreme Court, all liberal appointees, conservative appointees, it's stated in pretty good law. We've seen laws upturn over the last three or four years, but this is pretty good law. You can't use race as a consideration. The issue here, and where I differ with my pal Jesse here, is this is midstream. They've called a special session in Texas. I tried to say a few days ago on the show, I just think it's wrong. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. We have a set of rules that we've all lived by, which is 10 years. And Jesse, you can make the point, and Kennedy and I think Shannon as well, about California not having much room. Illinois, I don't like the way some of those states have done. But at least in fairness to New York and California, they have independent commissions that actually go about doing this, but they sometimes get the gerrymandering thing wrong as well. If we allow this to happen, and we must, we should be clear this is happening because President Trump has urged him to do it. Now, I don't think if you're the president and you have midterms coming next year, that this is a real projection and declaration of strength and confidence. If you need to Have Texas try to find you five more seats. I'm not one that's for tit for tat. But I got to tell you, if Texas does this, California, New York, and Illinois, it's hard for me to say, don't do it for the simple reason that I just think it's unfair what they're doing. If we were at the beginning of the decade and Texas said, we're going to redraw these districts, we have the power, I'd say, you know what? They're right. This is. This is how the process works. But to do it midstream, I don't think this is a cold war. The young men obviously didn't know what the cold war was about. This, this is a political fight that will have repercussions for a very long time, because anytime a party in the middle of a decade gets a little more power and is able to call a special session and redraw districts, they'll do it. And I just don't think that's good for the overall body politics.
Shannon Bream
Well, and, Greg, there are Republicans who are worried about this, too. They're in swing districts, and they worry if the blue gets bluer, it's going to, you know, like in New York, they're going to lose a seat.
Greg Gutfeld
I say just go all out to the very end. You know what the thing about Trump, there's no such thing as midstream. Like, he comes in the beginning, middle, and end is completely thrown out the window. It's like, wait, I'm not going to wait another five years. I'm only going to be president until 2028, maybe. This is what I like about this administration. And also his first one is he turns the lights on so we learn stuff that we never really paid attention to before. Like, I knew nothing about gerrymandering. Now I'm sick of hearing about it. But I actually kind of know what it is, and that's great. And that is the beauty. Trump. Trump shows us how the Democrats have had a free ride on this grift because we just didn't pay attention to it. It was like something nerds and wonks are obsessed with. Gerrymandering. It's a stupid word. I hate saying it. But then Trump does it and it's, oh, my God, everybody's screaming. And now we get a master's class on it. Everybody's talking about it. We're learning the ins and outs. But then the curse of that is that for the Dems is that we know they've been doing it all along. Remember, Harold, I don't have to tell you this. The Republican Party was created as a response to the Democrat Party. And all this is. That's all we. That's all we do, is everything that the Republicans do is a response to something the Democrats done. And I would say that if the Dems could do it, they would do it. And it's good, as Jesse says, that they would. But the beauty of Trump is that they used to make sure we were in the dark on this. And whenever he attacks something, the lights go on. I see a series dog, the bounty hunter Dems on the run. After all, they hunted Republicans for the longest time. They went after Trump supporters in the military, they went after parents at school boards, members of churches, censored supporters, as Jesse said, jailed people for wandering the Capitol. Maybe it's time that the hunter become the hunted. The world's most dangerous gang.
Will Cain
Can I ask you one question? If they do this in Texas, then by your analysis, is it okay if they do? If Democrats do it in New York.
Greg Gutfeld
And Illinois and California, then the Republicans can do it.
Will Cain
Yeah, but I'm saying.
Greg Gutfeld
So you see what I'm saying?
Will Cain
This is payback on top of payback on top of paying tax.
Greg Gutfeld
Exactly.
Will Cain
Because why our system is crushed by mass.
Greg Gutfeld
Started it.
Will Cain
No, we didn't.
Kennedy
Impeached him twice.
Will Cain
No, no, no.
Kennedy
You think that just came out of nowhere?
Will Cain
I didn't. I wasn't there.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes, you were, Harold.
Kennedy
You were here.
Shannon Bream
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Greg Gutfeld
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Kennedy
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Kennedy
It's the greatest crossover since O.J. hosted Saturday Night Live. Our very own Greg Gutfeld sachet his way into the Tonight show set where Jimmy Fallon greeted him with a passionate bear hug. And the love fest didn't end there.
Greg Gutfeld
This is hilarious. We've met before. Yes. You have no memory of it, which is understandable because we were wasted. Okay. I walk into this bar and I'm with my friend Andy. We just got off shooting something and I walk in and I'm looking around. I go, what the hell have I got into? And then I see you. And you look at me and you have. Your eyes just kind of explode. And you run towards me and you tackle me like you're like a giant golden retriever. You're, like on top of me. And so we're wrestling. We're wrestling. I pull out a cigarette. I light a cigarette and I'm smoking it and you stop and you come over to me and you grab it and you crinkle it and you go, these things will kill you. And you threw it. And then I. And I go, I go, dude, I go, I'm not rich. You're rich. I have to put that. Cigarettes are expensive in New York City. I yell, and you just. And all of a sudden, your face changed and you looked sad and then you left. Yeah. And then five minutes later, you come back with a fresh pack of Parliaments and you hand them to me and you go, here. And I go, that was really sweet. You want me to die? And you go, hey, let's go to another bar. And so I go, okay, so we pile into the back of your. Of your car. We drove, took a quick left, got out to another bar. It's the same building we drove. We drove from. We drove from one door to another door.
Kennedy
Yeah, we had a nice ride.
Greg Gutfeld
Right. So I think he wanted to impress that you had a driver.
Kennedy
I hate to say it, Greg, but you did very well.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, thank you. You seem surprised.
Kennedy
I am.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah. No, it was. You know what, the thing is, it's a lot of credit to Fallon.
Kennedy
He.
Greg Gutfeld
Him And I have. Share something in common, and that is we want. We want our viewers to go to bed not being angry. And I think that's a big difference from kind of the. That's what I mean. People lump Fallon in with the other hosts. It's not true. He's an apolitical guy. He got. He didn't, like, enlist in the culture wars. He was drafted, and he's resisted it as much as he can, but he didn't have any choice. And I kind of, you know, people say, oh, you're going to get stitched up. But I just go, I don't think so. Because I just don't see him that way. I just see him as a. As a. As a nice guy with an enormous amount of talent who wants to. Wants to have a good time. People. Critics are saying. There are critics that said, oh, Gutfeld's a pit bull. He's gonna attack him. And it's terrible. Are the same people that are now going, oh, it was a love fest. I can't believe it. Like, what do you want?
Kennedy
Well, when you jumped out, I don't know if Kennedy had the same reaction and. And leapt into his arms.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Kennedy
That was a little scary.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Kennedy
And then it made sense when you told the story.
Greg Gutfeld
Right.
Kennedy
Would you have done that again if you had maybe had another opportunity?
Greg Gutfeld
No. The whole point was doing that was because of the story, was that I was. I was recreating the actual. When he jumped on me in the.
Kennedy
Bar, I got it. At first it looked a little suspect.
Greg Gutfeld
What do you think it was?
Kennedy
I thought it was a homosexual thing.
Greg Gutfeld
Did.
Kennedy
It could be both. Did you. Did you go drinking with Kennedy after the interview and Fallon. Kennedy, Fallon and you. No, no, no. You guys just. You went back home.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, I went back home because he's.
Kennedy
Got, like, a reputation as a big drinker, and all of your stories were about him drinking.
Greg Gutfeld
You know, that's actually a good point. You know, I don't drink anymore. It'll be two years in September. I think he's pretty much cut it down. He's a family man. But back in that time, we were both pretty crazy. We were both hanging out in the same places, doing much of the same things with evil.
Kennedy
Shannon Breen.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes. Yeah.
Shannon Bream
I, too, have not had a drink in many years.
Greg Gutfeld
Really?
Shannon Bream
54.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, my God.
Kennedy
54.
Shannon Bream
Listen, I didn't like this one bit because this is how this starts. You go there, you're in each other's arms, you're reminiscing about drunken nights and we're gonna lose you and we're not willing to give you up. So I didn't like the feel of this at all.
Greg Gutfeld
You'll never lose me, Shannon.
Shannon Bream
Promise.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes, you'll always be evil Shannon Bream to me.
Shannon Bream
But I can't get a pinky promise out of it.
Greg Gutfeld
Okay.
Shannon Bream
Okay.
Kennedy
Now, you probably know Fallon.
Will Cain
I've met him several times. I'll tell you why I think this is great. First of all, you were fantastic.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, thank you.
Will Cain
I think I watched an interview this morning on another network with head of an AI company, and he was talking about all of the great advances we're going to make in AI and how you're going to be able to wake up in the morning and your emails will have draft responses to them and you can just send it. And it just started to make me think about how technology, all this greatness in technology, is really working to make us lonely and working to keep us apart. They treat us like we're commodities or widgets. If you. If you look at Fallon and you look at Gutfeld and I know you both, I know you better, you step back, you say, those guys should not get along. Those guys are going to have fights, Those guys. There's going to be something. That's what the widgets would tell us. That's what the AI would tell us. Humanity is better when we have contact, when people actually sit. And we all know you. That story, you happened to share that with us a week or two ago. You were going to share this story, but America got the benefit, seeing two people who are enormously successful, who come from different perches, who sit on different ecosystems and infrastructures, but who actually know one another, like one another and respect one another. That's what human contact does. That's what humanity is better when those things happen. So the country was improved by watching that last night. Whether you agree with Gutfeld or whether you agree with Fallon, or neither. To see them come together and laugh and make people at the end of the night say, you know what? I can go to bed with a smile on my face. As opposed to angry and partisan.
Greg Gutfeld
You're mad. Are you gonna nominate me for the Nobel Prize?
Will Cain
You know, how did you know that's where I was headed? I gotta get you right on gerrymandering, but other than that, I think you're ready.
Kennedy
Kenny, did you stay up till 11:30?
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes, but I was out busking at the Port Authority. The thing I loved about it, I love that you leapt into each other's arms and I Did worry for both of your marriages for just a.
Kennedy
And his back.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Harold Ford Jr.
But then you pulled. Very smart move. You immediately moved into the foreground, which made you look taller than Jimmy Fallon, which I thought was a brilliant move, because, you know, he's.
Greg Gutfeld
I learned that from tattoo on Fantasy Island.
Harold Ford Jr.
That's right, everybody.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Harold Ford Jr.
God rest his soul. Way too soon. But I agree with Harold. Like, what it made people realize is, you know, this industry really isn't that big.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Harold Ford Jr.
And, you know, we work across the street from each other, and you guys still have a lot in common.
Greg Gutfeld
It was. I was talking to their producers. We were both, like, bemused by the amount of attention it got within the industry. It's like, why. And it's. To your point, why is this such a big deal? It's because you're not supposed to do it. And we're supposed to be at each other's throats. There's this idiot, Bill Carter. He's a TV critic. What? Just very disappointed that there wasn't some kind of brawl.
Harold Ford Jr.
You know, it's like, that's because he wants drama. Like, he's the one who wrote the Late Shift and.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Bream
He's.
Harold Ford Jr.
He's the author that wants to feed off of that and have another version of the Late Night War. So he has something to write about. And there's really not. Because most of these shows are going to get canceled. But what I want to know from you is I think Jimmy Kimmel was probably very nervous watching this. Did it feel pretty secure over there, or were they worried that they're the next to go? What was the vibe?
Greg Gutfeld
There's something they don't talk about Fallon in that he's incredibly successful in the digital sphere. It's not. It's like, you know, you can look at his numbers, the show. But on TikTok, that's why I did the thing with the Jonas Brothers where they played Wizards. That thing goes online. It's going to go crazy. So he's always creating stuff that will be incredibly effective in this modern era. And. And I think that's why his show is going to do fine. And also his show is going to benefit from Colbert going away, because some of those people need to go somewhere. I don't know if they're going to come to me. I think they're going to probably go to him.
Harold Ford Jr.
And they'll secretly go to you. They will not tell their friends.
Will Cain
You all gave a lot of information last night. I hope it gets logged in because the country needs to understand that everybody can laugh and tell jokes and do things together.
Greg Gutfeld
AI Herald. I'm not.
Kennedy
No, no.
Greg Gutfeld
I'm the antithesis of AI did you.
Kennedy
Dry hump the Jonas Brothers, too?
Greg Gutfeld
No.
Harold Ford Jr.
But say no.
Greg Gutfeld
You know what? I'm glad you brought that up. I was walking away and I have witnesses. Joe Jonas was standing on the side, shyly said, that was great. And I said, tonight, later, I know an illegal speakeasy next.
Kennedy
Democrats rising star Jasmine Crockett is a workplace terror. Former staffers dish the dirt.
Greg Gutfeld
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Will Cain
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Harold Ford Jr.
Here she is. The Democrats rising star Jasmine Crockett is usually known for her exploitive filled tirades against President Trump.
Shannon Bream
The mofo that resides in the White House has unilaterally, in my estimation, declared war. They understand that we have a Timu Hitler in the White House right now that thinks that he is going to become the dictator of the United States. Listen, Donald Trump is a piece of. Okay, we know that. Yes. Yes.
Harold Ford Jr.
Wow, she's so tough. Well, now three former Crockett staffers are dropping a dime to the New York Post, dishing some dirt on how their, quote, diva boss refuses to come into the office. And when she does, it's only to scream at the employees. It turns out Crockett's got bigger ambitions than being a humble lawmaker. As one aide puts it, quote, she is focused almost exclusively on being an influencer, not a member of Congress. And Jassy has some very specific demands for her personal chauffeur. The staffer is expected to stand outside the vehicle, which has to be an Escalade or similar upscale make, and open the door for her. But Crockett, of course, is denying all the allegations.
Shannon Bream
As Beyonce says, if they're not talking about you, then obviously you must not be doing anything. You know what? This is just more slander, more nonsense, more lies. And honestly, I don't think that the New York Post would probably be the first ones to be able to figure out if I was a boss from hell. There's a song that I like to quote every once in a while. It says, your hate is my motivation, so keep hating. All it does is motivate me to continue to do what I do, which is to be loud and proud on behalf of the American people.
Harold Ford Jr.
Well, the New York Post figured out that that truly was a laptop from hell. So why wouldn't they be able to do their journalistic due diligence and figure out that Jasmine Crockett is the boss from hell?
Greg Gutfeld
Greg, I don't know how anybody could be surprised by that. She doesn't seem like someone who puts others first. You know, she is a fairly common politician. They enter politics not. Not as an avenue for service, but for status, self reward and perks, like Joe Biden did. Except this is a little different, because there's no accountability at all for her, because she's a politician and a member of a protected class. No white Democrat would ever disagree with her. And so without guidance or standards, she gets worse. She ends up, when she does these tirades, she sounds like everyone in a TikTok video saying they're not going to pay for the entire meal at the restaurant because the bread that was brought to the table two hours ago is now cold.
Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you, Greg. All right, so, Harold, you know, I'm looking at the story. She's got to have an Escalade. The staffer has to stand outside the vehicle like a driver, throwing fits, yelling at people. A total diva. Did you feel like you were reading your own biography here?
Will Cain
The I think you could. The problem with politics today is what this description of this young lady. I don't know if any of this is true, but I think so many politicians, and it's clear she's a big fan of using social media. I've been a complainer of where I think the state of politics is today. I think people are less problem solvers and want to be more pundits on TikTok and pundits on Instagram about things that are not really serious. We have a day in which the president looks like he's broken another peace agreement between two nations. He's trying. And I happen to think we got to stop coddling this thug Putin. And we don't hear any of that on Instagram or TikTok from these people. We've narrowed Democrats, we've narrowed our political ideology to just attacking Trump and saying that he's awful, he's terrible. We use expletives. I don't understand all the cussing public. I cuss a lot in private. Might cuss when we get in. Commercial break. I don't understand how, as a politician, the. That's a normal part of your narrative when you're out trying to express yourself and talk about issues that matter to Your constituents. Ultimately, voters will have to decide if this is what they want.
Harold Ford Jr.
But don't. I don't love this. I mean, can't you see her constituents like, yes, well, this I would do.
Shannon Bream
If I were in Congress.
Will Cain
Well, this is. I think it goes both ways.
Kennedy
Gotta be an escalade.
Will Cain
I think Democrats and Republicans, I mean, I can name. I'm not going to name names of those on the other side of the aisle who I think are unserious as well. This is not serious. And that's why I think I'm somewhat of a dinosaur when it comes to politics today, because I actually think you should get elected office at whatever level you are and actually try to solve problems. Which is when Shannon made the comment earlier about reaching across the aisle. I just want to get things done. And I don't get the sense, to Greg's point, that any of these people, many of these people in Congress today, that's not their foremost objective. No, that's not.
Greg Gutfeld
It's getting attention.
Harold Ford Jr.
Compromise is not sexy.
Shannon Bream
Larry Kudlow.
Harold Ford Jr.
Exactly right. Larry Kudlow, on the outnumbered couch the other day, said he loves Jasmine Crockett and he wants her to stay in office. Do you share that passion, Jesse?
Greg Gutfeld
I do.
Kennedy
We had McCarthy on last night, and I said, what's it like to work with people like this? And I mean, other divas. And he said, there's always one or two divas like this in Congress. And it's just like Fox. There's always like one or two people like this. And I could name names. And I think we all know who we're talking about here, but they're always.
Greg Gutfeld
Going to give us one.
Kennedy
They're always going to be like that.
Greg Gutfeld
I won't.
Kennedy
And you know exactly who I'm talking about. And so I said, well, can you tell me a story about one of these divas when you were there? He said, there was this woman, and she was from Texas, and she went onto a plane, but she didn't want anyone to hear a phone conversation, so she left the plane, walked back to the terminal while the plane was on the Runway supposed to take off. So they closed the door on her. And she's a member of Congress, so she starts banging on the door, boom, boom, boom. And you know what they did? She had a purse on the plane.
Harold Ford Jr.
They shot her.
Kennedy
They took the purse, opened the window, dropped it out of the plane, and then banned her from ever flying on that airline again. You know what her name is? Sheila Jackson Leigh. I name names.
Harold Ford Jr.
Who was known as the. Formerly the Worst boss in Congress before Jasmine Crocker said.
Shannon Bream
I knew that's what it was going to be because as we talked about during the commercial, D.C. is very small. These staffers in a lot of the offices, very young, 20 somethings, they talk, they party together, they share their. If you are troublesome and these are denied allegations, people on Capitol Hill will find out and it leaks out.
Harold Ford Jr.
But none of that.
Shannon Bream
You're a lawyer.
Harold Ford Jr.
None of this is illegal?
Shannon Bream
No, no, no, not at all. I mean, she's not violating ethics rules or anything like that. But I will say, if you go back and watch her in an interview two years ago on C span 2023, completely different person. So I don't know if she was kind of holding back then and this is the real her or if she's just decided this is a great way to stay in the headlines.
Greg Gutfeld
I just don't think it's fair that Dana is not here to defend herself. You come, you make these, you know, these comments.
Kennedy
You know, I should have said it to her face.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, you should have said it to her face. Force you to sit down when you do it.
Will Cain
But Sheila Jackson Lee is dead. Rest in peace. But I'll tell you this. Kevin McCarthy, he had to deal with a few divas on his own side.
Kennedy
He actually named them.
Will Cain
You want me to name names?
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes, go ahead.
Kennedy
He said Nancy Mace is the equivalent of.
Greg Gutfeld
I thought he could say Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Kennedy
No, he said Mace. And I like me. She seems fine.
Harold Ford Jr.
He's got pictures of both. She can beat you up when they're jello wrestling.
Will Cain
Get to the thing.
Greg Gutfeld
All right.
Harold Ford Jr.
The fastest.
Greg Gutfeld
Harbor freight from the FOX News Podcasts Network.
Harold Ford Jr.
Hey there, it's me, Kennedy, making sure to check out my podcast, Kennedy Saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.
Will Cain
Welcome back. Thousands of stressed out young adults in China now spreading to the US are apparently relying on pacifiers to soothe themselves from the stresses of life. TikTok is blowing up with clips of folks and their binkies during burnout situations. Greg, you have thoughts on this? You have a bunch of these around your house. Not for you.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, this is the best news to come out of China. We may have a chance. There are young people are sucking on pacifiers. We might, but it's incredible. I don't know if this is a real story. I guess it is. There are people there. But I go back to the first time we applied the word stressful. To humans. Remember, stressful was about tension applied to a material object. That was stress. Then suddenly we decided that this thing existed. Emotional strain. And then we started. Oh, this is too stressful. No, you're not in a war. Oh, you know what? I have to come. Oh, this is stressful. Give me a pacifier. Stress is just anxiety, which is a fear of inconvenience. And if you need it, if you need a pacifier because you're being inconvenienced. Oh, I've got a final the next day. I don't want you around me. I hope you choke on it.
Shannon Bream
Dang.
Kennedy
Well, real, real stress is like when they draft you and they send you to a jungle in Nam.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Kennedy
Kill VC with a new gun you've never shot.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Kennedy
And then some guy hands you some dope, and the next thing you're hooked on the juice and they were going to Cambodia trying to score your own stash. They send you back and then they spit on your face. Maybe it doesn't.
Shannon Bream
Matter.
Greg Gutfeld
I feel better.
Will Cain
Shannon, what are your thoughts on this?
Greg Gutfeld
I want to hear the rest of the story.
Shannon Bream
The rest of the story?
Kennedy
I'm. Now I'm all really stressed.
Greg Gutfeld
You mean you meet a hip female surfer in Huntington beach, you decide to get a camper van and drive across the country. Right. Because you got some fellas you met in the clink that owes you some money, huh? Is that how it goes?
Kennedy
That's how it goes.
Greg Gutfeld
She gets hooked on the horse.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Greg Gutfeld
And then you got it. Because you got to start stealing for. But you steal from the wrong guy.
Shannon Bream
Right, Shannon, I feel like this is going somewhere that I'm not rated or eligible to watch. I just thought this was we were told article. This is a big thing in China. I would note also, I'm gonna take a pass, but thank you.
Kennedy
Take a pass. I got it.
Shannon Bream
A PAC pass. I would note that their reproductive rate has really plummeted over there in China. If all their young people, 20 somethings are doing this, it's not a sexy look. I mean, but Kennedy used to.
Kennedy
I think Kennedy pulled it off.
Shannon Bream
She did look sexy.
Greg Gutfeld
Anybody?
Harold Ford Jr.
There are so many. Harold. Shannon, this is not for your tender, innocent ears. There are fetishes in the world the likes of which. Please do not go down that rabbit hole, please.
Greg Gutfeld
It'll lead to diapers.
Harold Ford Jr.
Burn your phone today, Shannon. Yes, it's the idea that everything adulting is hard is so patently offensive. Because as Gen Xers, we are all screwed. Because at some point they're going to be in charge of our wheelchairs, and they're not going to know what to. And grandma is gonna code and they're gonna curl up on the retirement community floor and just let us die because they don't have any coping skills and society is just feeding into it. And bosses are so terrified of Gen Z', ers, they're like, you can wear whatever you want to work. You can work from home. You can work three days a week. I'll buy your pacifiers. Just please don't quit. So now this is what society is doing.
Kennedy
Please don't let me die on the retirement floor.
Greg Gutfeld
Please. So you know what you do? You decide you're going back to Nam.
Kennedy
You call up your own buddy.
Greg Gutfeld
Go.
Will Cain
Fan mail Friday. Hey, I'm Trey Gy, host of the Trey Gy Podcast. I hope you will join me every.
Kennedy
Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life.
Will Cain
Together and hopefully find ourselves alive a.
Kennedy
Little bit better on the other side.
Greg Gutfeld
Listen and follow now@foxnewsodcast.com. love a good dead Kennedy song, Shannon. My good friend Shannon Bream. This is Bridge Hume in for Greg Gutfeld. So the first question is, what fears? What fears have you overcome? How about you, Shannon?
Shannon Bream
Hmm, I don't know that I've overcome with it. I live with it. I hate flying. And I was on a terrible flight a few years ago, actually coming back from doing a GOP primary debate with Bret Baer, Juan Williams, Chris Wallace, oog. And it was one of those flights where you're just dropping hundreds of feet at a time the entire flight. And my nose started bleeding. There was a doctor sitting next to me and he was like, I gotta get home. My wife is pregnant. So I knew it wasn't just me being crazy. Dr. Dream was really bad. It was not Dr. Dre. And I just knew if that plane went down, they'd be like all these people from Fox, Chris Walls and Bret Baer, and some woman named C.H. aaron Green was on the plane.
Greg Gutfeld
That was your real fear of dying in obscurity?
Shannon Bream
In obscurity, Yeah. I hate to fly, but I do it every week.
Greg Gutfeld
But you. So thank you for not answering the question.
Will Cain
No, no, no.
Shannon Bream
I haven't gotten over it, but I live with it.
Greg Gutfeld
That's not the question is what fears have you overcome? Too late, Shannon.
Shannon Bream
I've overcome it enough to do it.
Greg Gutfeld
Jesse.
Kennedy
Dogs. I used to be afraid of dogs because a dog when I was young lunged at me and then I gave it an uppercut. It was self defense. And so remember Dana had her dog on the Set. I was freaking out. Now I have two dogs and I'm like, they sleep with me.
Shannon Bream
Let sleeping dogs lie.
Greg Gutfeld
They sleep with you. That's beautiful. A little dog sandwich. You're the meat, Harold.
Will Cain
I have the same thing as Jess. I could not stand dogs as a kid. I was afraid of them, overcame them and two snakes. Up until about a year ago, my son saw a snake in our garden. He goes out and he's running. I said, I can't let him run full. So I run with him. He picks the snake up.
Shannon Bream
Yeah, he does.
Will Cain
And throws it. And I'm like, I was right behind you. I was ready to do it too. So I've gotten over that. But the dog thing was really my thing. I couldn't stand.
Greg Gutfeld
Now I got three nice. Kennedy.
Harold Ford Jr.
I was very scared of waves breaking on top of me.
Greg Gutfeld
Interesting.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Kennedy
Your belly button.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, yes.
Harold Ford Jr.
I hate having my belly button touched.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Kennedy
Remember when I touched her? You hated it.
Greg Gutfeld
You touched her belly button. Does HR know about this?
Kennedy
It's so awkward.
Harold Ford Jr.
Well, they will now do now.
Kennedy
Hello, Kevin, I need another question, please.
Greg Gutfeld
No, I see, I'm, I have, I, I, I don't have a fear of flying, but I had one that was, I had a tremendous fear of flying and then it just lifted and now I just, it just went away. I think I know why I went away but anyway, I don't medicate it. I don't medicate anymore self medication and I think that made it worse. And now I just like it's fine. I just have no fear.
Shannon Bream
We'll talk in the.
Will Cain
Well, it helps when you fly private too.
Greg Gutfeld
It really Exactly. No, that's scarier because there's smaller planes. Bathrooms are terrible. Tell me about it. Peeing all over me. What more thing is up next. Yeah.
Will Cain
Talk is cheap when it comes to it's will Tain country.
Greg Gutfeld
Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday.
Will Cain
Through Thursday@fox news.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel.
Greg Gutfeld
And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at Fox newspodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts.
Shannon Bream
Before we get to one more thing, check this out. PBR Friday night Live team series kicks off two nights in Sunrise, Florida. You can watch all the action exclusively on Fox Nation. Starts with a live performance by Chris Jansen, followed by the big competition. Enjoy. It's time for one more thing. Greg.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, we got a great show tonight. We got Kat Kim, Charlie Hurd, Tom Shalhou and CJ Pearson. Tonight at 10pm Check out my tour promo. Go to G gutfeld.com. these are all my live shows. Come to Allentown, Foxwoods, Prescott, Sugarland, Atlantic. Shooter.
Will Cain
Be there. Be there.
Greg Gutfeld
Be there. Hey, let's do this. Greg. Sexy Owl News. Nothing like watching a owl get wet. You want to dry off? Roll it. How do you say it? Archimedes. This is Archimedes, the Eurasian eagle owl at the Phoenix Zoo. He knows you're looking at him. He doesn't care. He gets off. When you're watching him, he's drying off after a cold shower to cool off from the Arizona heat. But no matter how cool he gets, he's always hot. And all the birds know who he is because his feathers are so soft. Designed for silent flight. And when they get wet, it may impede his ability to fly, but not his ability to love.
Kennedy
It's a wet hooter.
Shannon Bream
He's handsome. Jesse.
Greg Gutfeld
All right.
Kennedy
Played golf with Eric and Danny this morning. I'm not going to say who won. There's some people who are a little sensitive about that. But it was a good game. I was told not to say who won, actually. But what a class act I am tonight. Jesse Waters, primetime. Johnny visited the crowd right before Gutfeld's appearance on Fallon.
Greg Gutfeld
That's not true. Who's everyone waiting to see?
Shannon Bream
The Jonas Brothers.
Greg Gutfeld
Well, guess what? Greg Gunfeld's about to arrive. Okay. No, no. I don't know who that is. That is amazing.
Kennedy
You've given me such a hard time. That is beautiful.
Greg Gutfeld
Who came up with that idea? That was great.
Kennedy
I think it was not me.
Shannon Bream
Harold, what you got?
Will Cain
Sticking with the animal theme, that hungry bear was rescued after finding herself in a little sticky situation here. She had a. This bear in Wisconsin. Spent at least 12 days wandering around with a plastic jug on its head. Sounds dangerous. Because it was. Wildlife professionals safely tranquilized her. Once she was freed, she was relocated to an area in the woods where there was plenty of food. So you normally don't root for a bear like that, but you never like to see anything like that happen.
Greg Gutfeld
Look at how skinny she is.
Shannon Bream
Can I tell you about my guest real quick? For Fox News Sunday Governor Greg Abbott, Governor Kathy Hochul and a couple of congressmen, bipartisan delegates to the Middle East. What you got, Kennedy?
Harold Ford Jr.
I can do it in 10 seconds.
Shannon Bream
I know you can.
Greg Gutfeld
5.
Harold Ford Jr.
Tasmanian bottle found. 122 years old. Might be from a teen runaway.
Shannon Bream
I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world.
Greg Gutfeld
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Podcast Summary: The Five – "TX Lawmakers Blow Off Deadline To Return"
Release Date: August 8, 2025
Host: FOX News Podcasts
The episode of The Five, hosted by Shannon Bream alongside Kennedy, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters, and guest Mila from The Greg Gutfeld Show, delves into the escalating political tensions surrounding Texas lawmakers who failed to meet a crucial deadline. The panel discusses the broader implications of this action on gerrymandering, political power dynamics, and the future of American politics.
Shannon Bream kicks off the discussion by addressing the absence of Texas state Democrats from a key House session aimed at approving five new Republican seats. She highlights the Democrats' failure to reach a quorum, citing potential repercussions such as "$500 a day fines, no more direct deposits and the threat of arrest" (01:20).
Kennedy adds, "Those that have fled to Illinois or to California be reminded that the FBI's assistant has reportedly been enlisted and their powers are not confined to any singular state's boundaries" (01:07), emphasizing the nationwide implications of Texas's political maneuvers.
The panel transitions to discussing how the acquisition of five new Republican seats could bolster President Trump's influence, now marking "200 days in office." Shannon Bream warns, "If we allow the Republicans to get away with what they're attempting to do, this legal insurrection of our US Capitol, then we'll have a generation of redistricted gerrymandered seats that are skewed against Democrats" (02:09).
Harold Ford Jr. expresses deep frustration: "My blood is boiling over this. And so is the other governors, the other Democratic governors" (02:25), highlighting bipartisan concerns over the potential long-term effects on political balance.
Will Cain provides a legal perspective on gerrymandering, acknowledging its legality unless race is a factor: "The only thing you cannot do when you gerrymander is take race into account... We've seen laws upturn over the last three or four years, but this is pretty good law" (08:02). However, he criticizes the mid-decade redistricting in Texas, stating, "If we allow this to happen... they're using the N word, nuclear." (02:46), suggesting it could lead to an unending cycle of retaliatory gerrymandering.
Greg Gutfeld echoes the sentiment, asserting, "This is very dangerous... Democrats have no choice but to respond to this in the same way. If you launch missiles at us, we have to launch missiles at you" (02:37), drawing an analogy to the Cold War and highlighting the heightened tensions.
A lighter segment unfolds as the panel discusses Greg Gutfeld's recent appearance on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Kennedy shares, "They are looking forward to seeing what happens next with Gutfeld" (16:57), while Gutfeld humorously recounts the encounter:
"I walk into this bar and I'm with my friend Andy... you run towards me and you tackle me like you're like a giant golden retriever" (15:12).
The interaction showcases the camaraderie and good-natured humor among the hosts, providing a break from the intense political discourse.
The conversation takes a critical turn towards Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. Harold Ford Jr. introduces the topic: "The Democrats rising star Jasmine Crockett is usually known for her exploitive filled tirades against President Trump" (24:38). The panel discusses allegations from former staffers who describe Crockett as a "diva boss," focused more on being an influencer than fulfilling her legislative duties.
Shannon Bream emphasizes, "Donald Trump is a piece of. Okay, we know that" (25:10), while Greg Gutfeld further criticizes Crockett's management style:
"When she does these tirades, she sounds like everyone in a TikTok video saying they're not going to pay for the entire meal at the restaurant because the bread that was brought to the table two hours ago is now cold." (27:29).
The panel reflects on the current state of American politics, noting a shift towards hyper-partisanship and the influence of social media:
Will Cain remarks, "We have a day in which the president looks like he's broken another peace agreement between two nations. He's trying. And I happen to think we got to stop coddling this thug Putin" (28:57).
Harold Ford Jr. adds, "Compromise is not sexy" (29:35), highlighting the challenges in achieving bipartisan solutions.
The discussion underscores a perceived decline in cooperative governance, with both parties entrenched in their positions, further exacerbated by media influence and social media dynamics.
Throughout the episode, the panel intersperses serious political analysis with humor and personal anecdotes:
Greg Gutfeld and Kennedy share humorous stories about animal interactions and personal fears, providing levity to the conversation.
Shannon Bream narrates a past incident of a turbulent flight, blending humor with personal experiences:
"I hate flying, but I do it every week... I just knew if that plane went down, they'd be like all these people from Fox, Chris Walls and Bret Baer, and some woman named C.H. aaron Green was on the plane." (37:09).
These segments foster a relatable and engaging atmosphere, balancing the intense political debates.
In this episode of The Five, the panel offers a robust discussion on the contentious issue of gerrymandering in Texas, its implications for national politics, and critiques of key Democratic figures. Balancing serious political analysis with humor and personal stories, the hosts provide listeners with a comprehensive overview of current political tensions and the evolving landscape of American governance.
Kennedy: "Those that have fled to Illinois or to California be reminded that the FBI's assistant has reportedly been enlisted and their powers are not confined to any singular state's boundaries." (01:07)
Shannon Bream: "If we allow the Republicans to get away with what they're attempting to do, this legal insurrection of our US Capitol, then we'll have a generation of redistricted gerrymandered seats that are skewed against Democrats." (02:09)
Greg Gutfeld: "This is very dangerous... Democrats have no choice but to respond to this in the same way. If you launch missiles at us, we have to launch missiles at you." (02:37)
Will Cain: "The issue here, and where I differ with my pal Jesse here, is this is midstream... If we allow this to happen, and we must, we should be clear this is happening because President Trump has urged him to do it." (08:02)
Harold Ford Jr.: "Compromise is not sexy." (29:35)
Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript and aims to capture the key discussions and sentiments expressed by the panelists.