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Hello, everyone. I'm dana perino along with vice president j.d. vance, jessica tarlov, jesse waters and greg gutfeld. It's five o' clock in new york city, and this is the five. So you heard that, right? Yes. Vice President J.D. vance is here. He will be joining us for the entire hour and we're going to have a lot of fun. There's a lot of news to get to as well, including his new book that is out now. And we have a whole block on that coming up. But first, let's dive into the big topic of the day. He's been talking about it as well. President Trump balancing diplomacy and deterrence at the G7, advancing a peace deal with Iran while putting the regime on notice that any nuclear breakout would be met with forceful consequences.
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And if they do, they suffer unbelievable consequences. Not just a little bit, like, I won't even tell you the consequences, but the consequences are the ultimate consequences. They will not develop, purchase, buy or any other thing. They're not going to acquire a nuclear weapon. If they do, all hell will rain down on them and they're not going to do that.
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And while the details of the deal remain under wraps, President Trump is promising the American people won't be kept in the dark for long.
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They'll not only release it, I'll probably have a press conference and read it to you word by word so that the press covers it accurately, because it's a very important document. And unlike Obama, who could have destroyed the Middle east with a horrible jcpoa, it is the worst agreement that was a road to a nuclear weapon. Mine is a wall against a nuclear weapon.
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But the Democrats remain opposed no matter
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what word that comes to mind to me is incompetence. I just keep thinking that this has just been, it's just the height of
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incompetence with this government.
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The president doesn't want you to see
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this agreement because it is essentially a
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report card on what a disaster this war has been there.
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If you were president, you never start this war.
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Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Okay. Vice President Vance, thanks for being here and we're excited about your book. We're going to talk about it. You've been on air a lot today and I guess maybe start off with the question of why can't you or won't you release that document now?
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Yes. So there's some diplomatic procedure at work here where the Qataris and the Pakistanis have been mediating this entire negotiation with the Iranians. And, and they've asked us effectively to sequence the way that we roll this out. I frankly don't understand it. We'd be happy to release the agreement today or tomorrow. We may release it as late as Friday. But you know, fundamentally, in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't matter because whether it's tomorrow, whether it's Friday, people are going to see what's in this agreement very soon. Friday, of course, is the formal signing ceremony and the kickoff of these negotiations. And that's when they've asked us to delay it. We're trying to push that forward. But look, the agreement's actually very simple. It says, one, Iran can have a nuclear weapon, two, the Straits of Hormuz are open, and number three, there are all of these benefits contemplated that the Iranians can get if they behave. If they stop developing terrorism, if they stop funding terrorism, if they stop supporting the rebuilding of the nuclear arms program, they actually can get some real benefits. If they don't do any of that stuff, they don't get anything. And I think that's where a lot of the misunderstandings come from, is you've got Iranian propagandists out there saying, well, we get all these things and they leave out the fact that they only get those things if they fundamentally transform themselves as a country. So the United States wins either way. As the President said, either they get nothing, we destroyed their nuclear program and the Straits of Hormuz are open, or they fundamentally transform themselves. And that's a big win, too. It's really up to them.
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Ask you one last quick one. Well, maybe it's quick. It's a quick question. I don't know about the answer. So it's a 60 day period that you would look at and see are they complying with. Why not delay the photo op of you next to them until that moment so that you know that they've actually complied instead of rewarding them with a moment with you before then.
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You know, I think the President thinks this way, I certainly think this way that we're going to sit down and actually talk about these things. And he doesn't see a photo opportunity as rewarding them. Look, they're going to have to do some serious compliance and some very good things for the Americans in order for them to get any of the benefits of the bargain. So I don't see it as a reward to take a photograph. I see it as we're to get very serious about these negotiations. And what I'm trying to do is send a signal that the entire American government is actually oriented towards getting a good outcome for the American People I kind of want to figure out how real are they, how fake are they. They're making a lot of promises. Are those promises actually going to be met with real action? That's why I'm going to show up to the negotiation. That's why I showed up to Pakistan a couple of months ago. And we're going to stay involved in this process.
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You've racked up the miles to.
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C
Indeed. Too bad I don't get frequent.
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I know, I know.
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Too bad you don't.
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I travel in style.
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We'll take it around the table. Jesse, you're next.
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Well, from what I understand of the deal, it's the exact opposite of the Iran deal where proxies and missiles are covered because if they fund the proxies, then they don't get the economic benefits. And the missiles are covered because 85% of them have been destroyed and 90% of the industrial base has been destroyed. So they've been disarmed. They can't rearm because they can't manufacture more weapons. And now they can't really project power outside of their borders because they have no air force and they have no navy and they don't pose an imminent threat to the United States anymore and they have no air defense, so we have full air superiority. Also, the difference between the Obama deal is they cannot build a nuclear weapon. They can't enrich at all, and they can't stockpile because they can't access the uranium. They the dust is so deep down there, the only people that can get it is us. And if we even just let it sit there in a uranium grave for eternity, it's already destroyed their nuclear program. All the centrifuges are shattered. Their nuclear scientists are all dead. So if we do nothing, it's already accomplished the President's main objective, which is prevent them from ever getting a nuclear weapon. Everything he laid out the day after the bombing started has been achieved. This does what the Obama deal doesn't do. And if they screw around and make mischief again, we could still reinstitute the blockade. We could still hit them again. So that's fine. And you've already seen oil go down into the 70s, gas prices are what, a couple cents away from the three dollar range, Stock market at all time high, and inflation should taper off as the strait opens throughout the summer. So I think what Jessica really wants to say is thank you.
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Jessica, do you want to say thank you?
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Thank you for being here. Very, very cool to have you with us, especially when we're discussing this topic that you're running point on, and I'm a little uncomfortable about what I'm about to do, but I've been amping myself up all day. So, no, it's not called the Secret Service. They're already here, like 50 of you. You know, there's been leaked versions of this MoU, not just in the Iranian press and the Saudi press, the Pakistani press, the American press has gotten their hands on some details as well. You know, the Wall Street Journal has it that Iran can immediately sell oil and that they are going to get some sanctions relief right off the bat. That was something that we heard was not going to happen. So they have an incentive to get this going by Friday. And there's going to be money changing hands in the copies of the MoU that we've seen, again leaked. We have this $300 billion fund. And I saw you last night, you were with Sean talking about. He said, well, it's not our money. It's, you know, Gulf Nation money, our partners money. But that's still a $300 billion payday. And that's something that they desperately want to have. The punting on the nuclear program for the 60 day negotiation, you know, that's the real tough stuff of this, right? Like, that's the meat of what we really need to get done. And you say the jcpoa, you know, didn't have anything about that. It's in the preamble of the JCPOA that Iran will cease all efforts to have a nuclear weapon. That enrichment will be held at about 3%.
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Well, they can't. They can't get the dust, Jessica.
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Also,
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Barack Obama never buried it.
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While the Vice President is here. Don't interrupt me. And then it'll be over really fast.
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I wasn't interrupting him. I was interrupting you.
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I meant me. Be polite for our guest.
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Okay, I'll try my best.
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And you know, people who are disappointed with this deal, and it's not just Democrats, it's the whole spectrum of Republicans from, you know, maga, America First Republicans to traditional neocon Republicans who are concerned that it doesn't actually get rid of this ballistic missile program, the proxy forces, the regime change which were the initial promises of this war. And I think also that big Axios report last night was meaningful where they said that CIA Director Ratcliffe, Rubio and Hegseth, based on American intelligence, were doubting the kind of results they thought we could get out of this deal. That the.
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Yeah, so. So just let me address a couple of things because I think you're making the same mistake, unfortunately, that a lot of the Iranian propagandists make when they talk about this, which the Wall Street Journal, they talk about the benefits to the Iranians without any of the things the Iranians would have to give up and have to change in order to get those benefits. So you ment a $300 billion fund. I got to be very clear about this. Not a single cent of American money under any circumstance, no matter what the Iranians do, goes to Iran. Not a single cent of American money, but other money. Here's what this says. This says, for example, let's say that the United Arab Emirates, who have been a great ally, let's say they want to invest in a power plant in Iran. What this deal provides is that if the Iranians have done everything we require them to do, then we will allow the United Arab Emirates to do that. They can't do that right now without American approval. So we're fundamentally. If the Iranians transform how they interact with the world, we will transform how the world economy interacts with Iran. But if they don't do any of that stuff, they don't get any of these benefits. So I think all the Democrats who are saying, well, the Iranians get all these things, they don't get anything unless the total. Unless there's been a complete transformation of how Iran interacts with the world, that would be a huge win for America. And to Jesse's point, if they don't do any of these things, we don't give them anything. They don't receive anything. Their nuclear program is still destroyed. Their military is still destroyed, Their missile program and industrial base is still destroyed. We fundamentally have transformed the Middle East. Whether they comply or not, this is just icing on the cake. Assuming they do all the right things,
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and then obviously it goes to Greg. So I guess two things. One, there's already been reporting that the Qataris have been paying off the Iranians to get them to.
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I see. I've seen the report, by the way, and we have a great relationship. The Qataris.
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It's just no money has exchanged hands. Iran has not gotten a single dollar from any Gulf partners. Okay. And again, lots of criticism from the Republican side of this as well. It is a bipartisan concern.
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Well, I think, look, some of the criticism comes from the fact that if Donald Trump were elected the supreme leader of Iran, the Democrats would still say that the United States had lost this. There is a fundamental refusal to acknowledge how much has changed in the Middle east over the last few months. And Again, that assumes that nothing else happens. But if this deal actually comes to fruition, meaning if the Iranians actually comply with it, we have transformed the Middle east in a way that is amazingly beneficial for both the American people, but also the people of the Gulf.
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Greg Gutfeld, it's your turn.
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Well, I think I speak for a lot of people that I find a lot of these details really tedious. I mean, the results are already kind of obvious. These guys are going to figure it out, you know, and if you show the plan to the media, they're going to criticize it. If you don't show it to them, they're going to criticize it. You can't win. Worst of all, the media and the Dems are the last people on earth to talk about a lack of transparency. They covered the Biden White House with a tarp. They ran interference on his administration, which was a Trojan horse for some of the most radical policies in the history of this country, from the border to biology. So save me your complaints. You know, and by the way, you think that Trump doesn't want to talk about it. He talks about everything. Obviously, this is a procedural thing, but again, who are you to pick on this plan after looking the other way for almost five decades? This has been a violent open soar on the planet forever, and Trump lanced it. And now you're complaining about what's in the little deal, what's going on here, blah, blah, blah. I already know some things. I could see things with my own eyes. The Iran military is decimated. Infrastructure is gone. The economy is in a shambles. Which means, as Jesse points out, the world's biggest state sponsor of terror isn't in operation. One way to stop an agent of chaos is putting their entire existence in chaos. And Trump kind of already knows he does that all the time. He's like, if somebody's messing with him, you just make their life difficult. Did that with Iran. You can complain all you want, but that is a concrete sex success story. You can see with your eyes Iran isn't sponsoring any terror. They can barely sponsor a little league team. I've asked.
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All right, that's a block. Coming up next, the FBI stopping what could have been a catastrophic terror attack on White House fight night.
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White House fight night could have turned into a killing field. The FBI busting a terror plot to attack President Trump's UFC event using explosives drones to create panic and then herd people into a kill zone where a sniper's nest would open fire. More than 4,000 people were at the White House and around 80,000 at a nearby watch party. Five suspects are in custody. You're looking at three of them, with more than 10 people total believed to be involved. You're also looking at some of the deadly weaponry that they wanted to use to unleash chaos, including thousands of rounds of ammunition. Agents say the suspects did their homework with aerial maps and photos of locations around the White House. But President Trump's unfazed by yet another alleged attempt on his life.
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Mr. President, were you brief on the
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attack, the attack plans for the UFC
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event at the White House? There was. The FBI warded an attack.
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I haven't heard about it, no, but I watched the attack. That I watched were the fighters. And he saw it, too, by the way. He was sitting back home in his beautiful palace and he was watching it. And they were as good a fight as I've ever seen. Right. The best. That last fight was brutal.
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Did you watch any of the fight? You weren't there, were you?
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I was there.
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You were there?
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Yeah, I was there. I watched all the fights.
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I mean, they had a lot of security there.
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There was a lot of security there. So I was actually, I found about this, like, the President for the first time this morning. And it turns out the plot was, like, not that advanced. They weren't in town. They had not really done that much planning. And so I get why people are so fascinated by it. I do think the political violence and rhetoric in this country is completely out of control. But thank God we've got good law enforcement, good FBI, because it didn't even get close to the point of execution. We're protected. Like, we have so many layers of protection. I mean, hell, we have 50. Sorry, FCC violation. We have 50 Secret Service agents just in this room. But what I do worry about is, like, a lot of people could have got hurt if these guys pulled this off. Not, not, not in the inner circle, not in the security detail protection. But there were 80,000 people, and those are just innocent human beings. They never asked to be involved in politics. And the fact that people were targeting them just shows how despicable the political, violent rhetoric is in this country.
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And an amazing job by the FBI, KASH Patel again, getting out in front of it. So it never materialized.
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Yes. And, you know, obviously, we have to be right every single time. They only have to be right once. And it wasn't advanced. But there is a strain of the far left that is going down the road of becoming America's Hezbollah. And it's not good. It's not good for any of us. It's not good for our safety. It's not good for these young people. Look at these guys. Their lives ruined because they wanted to participate in a plot to take down the President. And they did have plans. I mean, I hope that they throw the book at them and that they get in trouble for a long time. They wanted to go after capitalist pigs. They're probably triggered by the SpaceX IPO. They probably support Luigi Mangian, probably had his T shirts on. And all of that goes back to other things that we've seen in the past few years, including Charlie Kirk's murder. And we could go on and on from that. The one thing I would maybe just ask is, obviously this wasn't advanced, but with FISA not passed, and there's. Because it's opaque, and so you cannot collect that kind of data. So that we had the open border for four years. So you don't know who all is in the country? Well, hopefully we do, but it's hard to track them all. And then if any of the characters from outside of the country are trying to call one of those guys to get them to do something, we need that program.
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Yeah, exactly. So if somebody had been engaged in foreign terrorist activities communicating with these guys, we would actually be kind of blind to it right now, because FISA has lapped and FISA has expired. I'm a big believer that if you're going to, of course, wiretap an American citizen, you got to have a warrant. But if you have some crazy person outside the country planning a terrorist attack, we've got to be able to get access to that information right away. It's one of the reasons why, you know, we care so much about this particular program. But here's the crazy thing. Even though you're right, like, it's not like they were in Washington, D.C. with guns, ready to start lighting people up. They had the violent intent and they were planning on doing it. And what matters so much is that even though clearly they weren't able to pull it off this time, if we had arrested those guys, God knows what would happen a month down the road, three months down the road. The one thing I'll say Dana, is yes, their lives are ruined because they decided to plot a violent attack. Looking at their photos, I don't think their lives were in great shape.
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Yeah, that's true. Unfortunately for them.
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Another reason, Jessica, you need the big beautiful ballroom. It's a drone port, so you can then launch drones to counter any sort of attack.
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I hear Jessica's actually a big fan of the ballroom.
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I heard, too.
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I improperly briefed Jessica.
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You were. And it's the taxpayer funded ballroom just mentioned that. About a half of it. Listen, this has been a problem for a long time and just growing exponentially. So Obama got three times the number of threats and 11 credible assassination plots. Then it went up under Trump. I think Biden had some, but not as much. And then Trump again. So obviously we have a real problem with this. And I think also the. The amount of conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories that are flying around on the left and the right when things like this do happen, like Butler for instance, or even what we saw at the White House correspondents dinner where people thought that that was staged is such an unhealthy place for us to be as a country. I think part of that is, you know, more transparency and making sure that people know what's actually going on. And then also people in positions of power doing the right thing and coming out like, I appreciate that you said this actually wasn't that far along. Right. Like we were safe and the event was safe. Because I think that people do want to, you know, mix it up, stir it up. They want that algorithm to be juiced in, you know, whatever partisan direction you're in, and for it to turn into President Trump almost died, or, you know, Obama almost died, et cetera.
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Greg, I don't know. I mean, when I hear you talk about Obama's threats, and I know that's been debunked. What you know, he. Hundreds and hundreds of threats.
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We're talking about 7 credible.
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We can go through that in the break and you'll find out that a lot of these threats were just like emails and phone calls. We're talking about people that try to kill leaders. There's been nothing like this in the history of this country. You know what it's so important the tell for this is whenever you're talking to a liberal, they galvanize that evidence. They are so intent on trying to tell you it's both sides that tells you that it's not. We know that it's just one way. Dana points out the language used. Capitalist elites, billionaires aipac Jews. Right. I didn't know Platner and Hasan Piker had time to plan this because that's the same language they use. The motive, the rhetoric is directly related to the inflammatory rhetoric of the mainstream left which has become so mundane because you're supporting some asshole with a Nazi tattoo on his chest. This is why liberal outrage has no credibility. I can say bad things about Joy Behar, but no right wing group is gonna go burn down her house. A wrestler can call Michelle a doubt. A right wing groom is going to her house in Hawaii, but you do a repetition of demonization about Nazis and fascists and white supremacists. Is it no surprise that Charlie Kirk gets killed? Is it no surprise that Trump gets shot at? Is it no surprise there are these large terror plans that end up being thwarted? We're lucky they got thwarted. By the way to your answer, the reason why they're always young is because young zealots do the work that old socialists won't. The old socialists will make money writing books about their ideology, but they won't leave the house unless, you know, Bette Midler's playing. These guys buy into their rhetoric and then they go out and they act out and then you have the old socialists going, well, these people are stupid. You can look it up.
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Look up Obama.
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I'm happy to look it up. This break is going to be amazing on the Google machine. I'm just saying there are Melissa Hortman, who was killed, the pipe bombers.
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This is my point.
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What do you mean? The people shooting up Walmart. The kind of rhetoric. Listen to the rhetoric.
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Do it side by side. It's one way.
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Communists. That sounds like Donald Trump talking about leftists calling people vermin scum like what that were traitors.
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You are comparing that to a repetitive rhetoric that's been going on for 10 years where people are called Nazis and deserve to die. That's what conservatives hear every single day. Save it.
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Well, I hear terrible things on the
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show every day, but that's just for me.
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All right, we gotta go. Coming up next, JD Going into the lioness den of the View and he's gonna tell us what Joy Behar did in the commercial break.
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JD Vance has a new book out. It's called Communion Finding My Way Back to Faith. The Beeps making the rounds to talk about it, including a stop by the Henhouse at Dates Time TV said he loves the inflation.
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What he said, Anna, what he said is that he loves the fact that the inflation is going to come down when this war is Over. That's. That's what he said, wasn't it?
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Are you his interpreter or are you his vice president? Question. Okay, so in the book, Mr. Vice President, you make a mea culpa of sorts for calling Democrats childish, childless cat ladies.
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Oh, manheaded comment.
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You say that.
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And so Joy said, when we were all fair, that I'm fine, which I think is about the best endorsement that I'm going to get out of. Joy Behar for Republican. Thank you.
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There you go, man. If they actually understood context, they wouldn't have a show. Everything they do is out of context. I want to ask you about the title or the tagline, finding My Way Back to Faith, which leads to the question, how did you first lose your way?
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Yeah, so I want to answer your question, Greg, but Communion is the book. And I gotta say, look, man, I've been on the show for all of a half an hour. It's appropriate. This is about faith and religion because y' all need Jesus. That's my takeaway. I need 30 minutes. But the way that I lost my faith is fundamentally. It just didn't seem all that relevant to me. I was raised in the faith. I fell away from it like a lot of teenagers. And, you know, in my life, I cared way too much about things that people care too much about. Cared about where I went to school, cared way too much about how much money I made, what kind of job I had. And I started to realize when I got into my 20s and I fell in love with the woman who's now the second lady, and we're getting ready to have babies. And I started thinking to myself, okay, am I actually becoming the kind of person I want to become? And the answer was no. And then I thought more about it and said, well, why is it that the Christians in my life, the people I dismissed as bumpkins, or sort of simple, why do they have it all figured out? They're better people, they're happier, they're much more well adjusted than the people I was around at Yale Law School. Maybe there's some truth to this creed that forms the foundation of their life, and maybe there's truth to the fact that Jesus Christ is the son of God. So that's ultimately what got me back on the path. And then the book is really about where I went from curious about Christianity to eventually finding my home in a church and raising my family in that church. So, you know, I think it's a cool story. I wrote the book. I should think it's a cool story or that would be bad news, but I'd encourage everybody to take a look at it.
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It is a cool story. I have two questions. The first one is, I was very impressed with Charlie Kirk's ability to keep the Sabbath and his suggestion that we all do that. And I remember Lawrence Jones and I saying we should really do that. And I was like, can you do that? I don't know. Can you do. I mean, do you try?
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I try very hard, but it's basically impossible when you're the Vice president because there are always crises coming up in the world. There are always things people always have to reach you, and so you can't just set your phone to the side and not touch it. But I do take this lesson from Charlie, which is that, you know, people can always reach me, and they always do, but I don't, like, keep my phone around my kids. I try not to stare at it all the time. I try to actually make sure my kids and my family get proper attention, even knowing that somebody might come in from downstairs and interrupt me because there's some crisis in the world. But I think it was a really amazing thing that Charlie Kirk did. And again, it's one of these evidences, like, the reason God gave us the Sabbath is so that we would spend more time with our family, so that we would actually focus on the things that matter. And the fact that we've just discarded this is, I think, to the detriment of pretty much all of us.
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My second question. Sorry, guys. Is I think it's remarkable to become a Catholic and then meet the Pope. Yeah, because that's different, like, when I'm Lutheran. So I met the. We were in line to meet the Pope. We were running late. I was like, you know what, Bill McGurn, you take my spot. Because I knew it mattered more to him at that moment than it did to me. And you also were able to be with the Pope's brother at the UFC fight, which I think is so remarkable.
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He's an amazing guy, Navy veteran, just really kind of a MAGA guy. He loves the President. He loves. Loves the policies, obviously, but more than that, is just a good dude. And it's kind of amazing. You can tell how proud he is of his brother. Imagine how crazy that is. You're a Catholic. Your brother goes from sort of unknown to a cardinal to a Pope in, like, three years. And there was this hilarious thing because we actually brought him to the Pope's inaugural Mass. And, of course, when he saw his brother, he gave him a hug because it's his brother. And this became a thing in the European press, like, who is this American hugging the Pope brother? Give the guy a break.
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Yeah, well, if my brother became more famous than me, I'd probably be really jealous.
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You have a brother?
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No, thank God. If I did, I'd be more famous. Darn it.
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Good that you can admit that, Jesse.
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So I was a C and E Christian, only went on Christmas and Easter. Didn't really get involved in the church that heavily until Charlie was killed. Greg and I and Harold started doing Bible study. We call it study. We text in the morning, we read passages. And something's just struck me the last week when I've been really focusing on my relationship with God. And you can speak to him and he can speak to you and you can kind of give away your worries to him. Do you find yourself as vice president during the day when stuff's hitting the fan or you're in a tense moment, flying to Islamabad, communicating with the Lord
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all the time, man. Especially in the most stressful, the most intense moments because you need to be centered and you need to have your eyes on the right thing. And sometimes I just talk to God. I say, God, give me wisdom and courage because I need both right now. And you just feel this sense, not always that you know exactly what to do, but that you're in the right mindset and you have the humility about the decisions that you have to make. So absolutely, I could not do this job were it not for my faith. And I think that's probably true for a lot of people. And I think it makes us all better leaders when we recognize that, you know, we don't know everything. There needs to be a little bit of humility about the way that we do our jobs.
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D
Humility? Yeah, I'm getting.
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F
You should try that.
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A
That's next week in the Bible study.
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F
I'm going to try to sneak in two quick ones as well. So, you know, increasingly across the country people are running multi faith households and you guys are as well. How do you do that? And you know, bring that to life for your children?
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Yeah, you know, we just don't actually think about it that much. Right. My wife has her faith. She was raised in a Hindu household. I was raised in a Christian household, fell away and came back and we just talk about things with each other. I think she's the most interesting person in the world. She always has an interesting perspective. Like for example, there's an ancient Hindu text where the very first line is in the beginning was the word and the word was God, and the word was with God, which, if you know, is the first verse in John, in some ways the most important gospel. So there are all these fascinating parallels and interesting thoughts that she has, but we've decided to raise our kids Christian because we just don't want them to be confused. But mom's views, they ask her questions, and they're very curious. And I think it makes her household interesting. There's a certain dynamism to it, but it works for us. And we just try not to think too much about it.
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F
And then really quickly, slightly political. How do you process Pope Leo's criticisms of the administration, you know, on war and, you know, treatment of migrants?
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C
So the way that I think about it, first of all, you know, I do think that the media, not saying you, but the media often tries to treat the Pope as this sort of far left guy where he said, it's reasonable for a nation to have borders. It's reasonable for a nation to enforce its borders. Yes, he has said some critical things, but the way that I take it is I try to listen and I try to understand. I try to understand the perspective. But fundamentally, the job that I have is to apply moral principles to the problems that exist. I certainly think the Pope is going to have interesting views on that. I certainly take those views under consideration. But it's not my job to sort of say, well, just because the Pope disagrees with me, I'm going to do something different for the American people. I think he has his role, I have my role, the President has his role. And the Pope's role is as a preacher of the gospel, certainly an important moral voice. But I think somebody where you've got to. You got to. You've got to weigh everything. You got to say, absolutely, we can treat people humanely. We can also have a border. Part of my job is to balance those things. I think part of the Pope's job is to remind us that we have to always be engaged in that moral balancing act.
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E
All right, I'm not in the acknowledgments again.
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F
Always checks.
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E
All right. Check out his new book, Communion. Coming up next. Dems are benching U. S. Pride.
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To New York. Democrats are facing backlash after refusing to back Team USA at the World Cup. Watch.
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E
World cup is here. The first match this week in a MetLife Stadium taking place in New Jersey, even though some people say it is technically New York. But what do you think will win it all? Who are you rooting for?
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B
I like Mexico.
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E
Mexico.
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B
There you go.
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A
For Senegal.
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D
Senegal. Okay.
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F
Those comments come as the partisan divide over national pride over national pride continues to grow. A new NBC poll finds just 29% of Democrats say they're extremely or very proud to be American, compared to 90% of Republicans. Dana. When I saw this, I was like, I'm going to dig into this. Mexico ranked number 14. Senegal number 15. We're ranked number 17. They're not from any of those places. Why do you think this?
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A
Why do I think they do? Because, I mean, I think that they made a conscious choice to not be for America. I mean, you can say I'm for America and you hope that they do well.
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F
And I love this.
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A
Moving on to the round of 16. Slim. But look, they played very well the other night. Great. Like, you could just say, I'm for America, but if America doesn't go forward, let's go Senegal or whatever it is. But that's not what they wanted to do. They deliberately made sure that you and everybody here knew that they would never say that they are for America.
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F
Jesse, it seemed like a bit of a mistake. When you're in the midst of a heated primary to say that you are not for the homeland.
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D
Blanche has to bring charges immediately. This is probably aiding and abetting. I consider it a portable offense. You cannot be that unpaid Benedict Arnold. Jessica. I mean, come on. If they're not for America, are they for Senegal on trade? Are they rooting for Iran against epic fury? Where does this stop? This is the root of all evil in this country. It's subversive. Bring back McCarthyism. That is the only answer for this.
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F
Okay, what do you make, and some of it is obviously partisan, that, you know, when your party's out of power, you have, you know, less pride in the country. But what do you make of this huge drop off?
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C
So just like, I don't think that's right. Why does that need to be true? That if your party's out of power, you should have less pride in your country. Like, I guarantee that when Barack Obama was president or Joe Biden was pretending to be president, that you had Republicans who still said they're proud of America, they're proud of our military, they're proud of the great people of our country, they're proud of our natural beauty. Like it Sundays. I think 29% of Americans or of Democrats are proud of their country. I assume that includes you, even though you disagree with the president administration. So what seems to me so bizarre about this is that we've allowed a culture to develop where people feel like the country is the country's politics. And I think that's like, it's actually connected to the violent rhetoric where if you disagree with somebody, you can justify killing them. It's really, really a bad thing. I wish Democrats, all of them, were proud of our country. We should be proud of our country, Greg.
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E
Well, you know what? I'm not surprised by the poll because the primary purpose of media, academia and politics, left wing politics, is to define patriotism as a celebration of oppression. They have been conforming to one message, that America is not a melting pot, but a cauldron of hate. And there are two groups that are behind this. One is actual authentic radicals who wish a violent revolution would take place. But then you have these willing status seeking dupes in the media whose ignorance makes them perfect disciples.
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A
Can I just say one thing, Jessica? You said that it would be. It's a bad idea to do that when you're in the middle of a heated primary. Not their primary. Like, maybe, like the worst thing that they could do is say that they were for America.
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F
Oh, maybe for the DSA candidate, but I don't.
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Her name is Now.
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E
And why should. Why should an election matter? So you would adjust your beliefs about the country depending on an election. What a scummy thing to do. Yes.
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A
Yes.
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F
Our vice president has changed opinions on some big things. Now.
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C
That is quite a bailout. We have to go to commercial.
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F
Okay, coming up next, dad jokes may be fundamental to parenting.
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C
For generations, children all across the world have suffered through their dad's terrible one liners, my kids included. But now scientists suggest those cringeworthy dad jokes may help strengthen father child bonds. And by the way, thank you, science, for discovering that humor is helpful and brings joy. Great job, researchers. My favorite dad joke is actually one my son told to me. I want to know what yours are, but what do you call a fly with no wings? A walk.
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D
Okay, very good. That's terrible.
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C
All dad jokes must be terrible. Dana, you have a good one.
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A
The one that I like for kids is, why was six afraid of seven?
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C
Seven, eight, Nine.
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A
There you go.
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C
You can tell I have young kids. I know all these.
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D
Jesse, what do sprinters eat before they race?
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C
I don't know.
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D
Nothing. They fast.
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F
Is that the one you looked up?
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G
That's a good one.
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C
That's a good one. Greg, you have a dad joke.
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E
Let me think. Okay, how's this one? A priest and a rabbi and a prostitute wake up in the zoo. They're all naked.
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G
No.
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E
Why don't eggs tell jokes?
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A
Why?
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E
Because they'd crack each other up.
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C
All right, Jessica.
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F
Well, I looked one up, which I thought was funny. My dad wasn't a dad joke guy, but he was a great dad. But he's. I could go on about the virtues of underwear, but I'll be brief.
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D
Okay.
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F
I just want to say I think the dad jokes are so great because they're not only for the younger audience. They're an affirmation also to the mom or the partner of how much you care and, like, how much you want to be in it. And don't forget trans.
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E
Trans parents.
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F
Why did you have to do that? It's just so unnecessary. Dad jokes are sexy. On top of being.
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C
What is your favorite birthing?
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E
Birthing parent.
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C
That's the most important thing.
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F
I have none. And we only have six minutes left.
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C
One More Thing is up next.
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F
Next,
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We've had a great show, and it's time for One More Thing.
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F
Greg.
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Oh, boy. We have a great show tonight. We have Cat, Tim Kennedy, Tyrus, and somebody named Vice President J.D. vance for the whole hour. Oh, that's gonna be fun. So much fun. Let's do this, Greg. Sexy hippo news. Let's go to Memphis, shall we? Do you know, Dana, that their flat tails can launch feces over a large area to assert territory and dominance?
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A
Wow, that's very sexy.
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E
And the farther it goes, the more females a male hippo will attract. Yes. Why would I make up a lie like that? All right, I'm done.
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A
Something else. Jesse.
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D
We got a feeding frenzy. Let's roll it.
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E
It's a great fact.
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B
That's great.
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E
Good tech there, people.
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D
All right, we got pickle cake here. Dozens of layers of creamy green frosting, complete with tiny chunks of pickle rind. I was gonna do fudge cause it's National Fudge Day for the vp, But I thought it would be too gay, so I did pick instead. I'm not sure if I got pickle.
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A
Thank you for being here, Mr. Vice President.
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G
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